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and we're live welcome to the WAN Show

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your weekly analysis

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and news and uh who am i kidding we just

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goof around on friday afternoons and for

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some reason you guys like to watch because you're weird like that

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i like to watch yeah who doesn't

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what are you doing we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today

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but rather than tell you about them i'm gonna pick all the most boring ones so

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that i can razz james about it in person

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i don't make the news man okay this headline

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weird case from kickstarter that Linus

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likes okay first and foremost

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just because i like something that doesn't make it weird

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i like to watch i like to watch for example you like to watch too is it

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weird that if we both like it well no

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i don't like this case that's why it's weird it's weird that you like it

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i didn't i didn't get it maybe you can walk us through you can show everyone the case you can tell us why all right i

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don't think it's that weird i think some of you guys are okay i don't think all

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of you guys are going to want to pay for it because

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that's a whole other matter but i do think you guys will think it's pretty

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cool uh what else we've got have we got for boring news this week scroll to the

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bottom i usually put the boring stuff on the bottom i don't know this is pretty boring bluetooth hacked again it's scary

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it's scary but in like a boring way like bluetooth has to be the most mundane

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boring thing on the face of the earth the the boringness to cool name ratio is

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high though okay bluetooth is a pretty good name oh facebook to open a new ai

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lab in montreal oh oh you like the canadian stuff oh

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man oh google chrome lets you mute okay

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that's pretty cool okay that that's pretty cool that one's at the very

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bottom you don't even know what good news is best for last that's that's not

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what you said prove it this is live

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there's an archive all right fine you picked two new topics

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cool ones okay this is probably one that you

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normally wouldn't even read but it's possible that in the near future you

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might be able to charge your electric car in five minutes

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i can charge my electric car in five minutes now you have one life it's a

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little one like this what else you got hit me again that was

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terrible there's gonna be a new gtx 1070. okay you know what i think

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my attempts to read boring news are still more interesting than your

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attempts to read what you think is the best news this is where we have a

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disconnect james every week Linus puts in

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to the document before i get to it his picks of things that pop up out to him

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during the week they pop out he puts them to make sure they're in the show the top one this week

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the fact that the that the video card guy left AMD

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that is sort of a big deal he just went he's taking one quarter off

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he's taking a long christmas break he's back in january he's gonna be out for

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three months okay okay this is so over let me put let me put it this way

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you know what fine we'll come back to this after the break first the intro

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yes the answer that questions yes

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no there's music right now no they can hear us still they can it's just

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annoying don't do that you're too new to the show

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to be annoying see luke gets away with it ah

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i like to test the boundaries

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do you like to watch other people test their boundaries

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are we allowed to talk about stuff like this while we put the sponsor logos on

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the screen synergy

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you pick no we're going we're going right into the Radeon technologies group

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thing okay so i'm gonna open up with i completely

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disagree with you and then i'm gonna let you go ahead and make your argument

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actually no i'm gonna open up with what the actual news is so the original

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article here was um actually from

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uh yong yong kang posted it on the forum here

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we'll go ahead and pull that up and basically just said well that's odd

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raja so you might remember him as the tiger in aladdin the uh

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no you might remember him as the gentleman

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who dropped the rx 480 back when it

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launched that wasn't me i was just present he was the one who dropped it

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that's where you caught it from um and he came back to AMD

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right around the time that they launched their hawaii gpus so that was the 290x

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and the 290. and vega has basically been his baby

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since then and he is going on a break

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until the end of q4 so the start of 2018

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and dr lisa sue ceo of AMD so she's so

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he's been running Radeon technologies group which was split off from AMD

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proper so they're going okay this is a CPU side this is the GPU side in an

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attempt to make it easier for the CPU side of things to work with folks like

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NVIDIA and the GPU side of things to work with folks like Intel okay i'm

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starting to get this so dr sue

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the boss and i don't i'll just say boss because i don't technically she was

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already the ceo of it so you can't get more boss than that but she'll be more

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blurring the line between these two companies in my mind anyway in a way

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telegraphing sort of a telegraphing an attack you know oh got

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mind potential shift in at least her

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thoughts for how important

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raja is to rtg see i think you're reaching there okay all right make your

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make your argument so he don't let me stop you from making

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your argument but uh yeah okay

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all right so he worked really hard during vega needless to say the guy was

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probably burning the midnight oil for months literally a couple years

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so he sent an internal email to the staff

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thanking everyone for their hard work um

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highlighting how kick-ass the launch has been for epic and

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and vega since that's his his baby so

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he thanked everyone for their hard work and then said quote vega was personally hard on me as

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well and i used up a lot of family credits during this journey i decided to

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take a time off now they can see it they can see it i'm sharing them but they

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like when i read stuff so it was tough on him

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he's taking some time off i don't think that's hard to understand so he

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asked sue when he should take when he should take

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time off and she suggested this last quarter i think he originally

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wanted to go off like in january but there's more product launches then so

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they chose now so i think your theory about how her influence or presence is

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going to muddy the water i don't think that really applies because i think it's a quiet time she's

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not going to have to make that many big decisions i don't think okay it's coasting i don't

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think there's ever a quiet time in the tech industry for one thing and here's

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my counter argument to that

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if i told you that it was in any way

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acceptable for you to be off work for three months

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um unless there was i mean

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and here's the thing you know we don't know about his health

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or his family's health or you know there may be personal

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factors at play so that may be part of why people are

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reading too much into this because they don't have all the information but all i

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can go based on is what i see in front of me and what i

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see in front of me is if i told you james that barring any kind of health

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issues or any kind of family emergency or the birth of a child

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it was cool for you to just not be at work for a few months

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how essential would you feel

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and how essential would i have to feel like you are to

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just be like yeah that's cool you know actually you

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know what would be great is if maybe for the next few months maybe we just didn't

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pay you and you just didn't come to work and then maybe after that you'll come

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this feels more like a slow like like a

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a way to to quietly phase out

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then it feels like a sabbatical

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i could be totally wrong i could be so far off the mark

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that it's not even funny because a lot of what's in here on the

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face of it looks fairly credible

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um you know he's been working real hard

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and his family probably wants to see him and this has been a very long couple to

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few years of his life but

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so why no successor then

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because i don't think raja is that simple

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to introduce a success or two and i

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think this few months gives them time to find somebody

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okay that's my tinfoil hat conspiracy theory

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and i would be singing a totally different

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song right now if vega had absolutely kicked ass

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is that bixby talking to me

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no not bixby it might have been it's bixby but it's for me it might have been

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siri activating yeah they were talking to each other it

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was neither yeah yeah that would be a great video

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bixby would be all eloquent siri just like

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oh wow that would be an amazing video

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like getting them getting them going like seeing if they could start

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activating each other like like that i'm sorry i don't understand could you repeat that like

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that like that prank call when you get one erotic hotline to talk to the other erotic hotline

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and then it takes them like 10 minutes to figure out like no you called me

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you never no i've never heard of that oh that

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sounds great though if for someone who likes to watch i assume you like to

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listen you should look it up

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peter pan versus pizza man that kind of thing that does sound pretty good

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um okay so then

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tin foil hat how many tin foil hats out of ten am i we're doing it now are we

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doing a straw poll is that what you're saying no no i want to hear from you i actually do care what you think uh

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he'll be back he'll be back i'm giving you a credible

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six a six okay like it's not

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that far-fetched okay could be true but i'm just erring on the side of not true

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okay all right all right i can accept that because i lied i don't care what

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you think anyway i think good thoughts

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you only think good i don't i don't think good don't think good thoughts

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all right let's get into our next topic here my uh

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you know i got really next door is this i'm gonna have to oh oh doesn't everyone

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want to know all right we can talk about the iphones

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iphones wait

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is this seriously all the okay so there's a couple issues here number one

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is i'm working on my review of the 4k blade and i'm going to screen share you

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guys on something that i've never seen before this is just

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this is just my chrome right now um

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this is not very usable um it's white privilege

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that's uh manifested that's

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not this is not very helpful um

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and and this this is the other issue this is all the notes i get

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you watch the event i don't you know i

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don't you know what you're gonna say i don't memorize every stupid thing

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oh i need a summary i have things to say you want to say them

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this is new information no i don't remember how many megapixels every every

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camera or all 12 phones oh they're still 12. that hasn't even

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changed okay well i didn't remember that so that's why you

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got me well knew luke i wasn't going to host

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the show with you i was gonna host it with someone cool

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but then we ran out of time saying

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are you implying that i'm hot what oh you're making me very

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uncomfortable right now okay oh okay so this is interesting

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um are you familiar with this senator in particular you recognize that name al

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franken yes he's the coolest senator i think

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he's the guy that rakes people over the coals questions them hard questions

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and he's got some more oh this is this actually looks pretty

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good okay so it's to do with um their face id but anyway let's let's talk

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about see i know i don't have a summary i don't have like a okay next time i do

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need the summary for stuff like this just because i watch the live stream

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doesn't mean i don't need the suffering no i'm

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i'm flying blind here okay so let's talk general impressions um i don't know how

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many of you did tune into the live stream that we did during apple's event

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but ed and i actually streamed live the

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whole time to give you guys sort of a pc

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slash apple fanboy perspective on all of the

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news that they announced the watch looks

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moderately interesting they are taking another step towards the direction that

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i didn't really want to see them go with the apple watch you mean independence

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popular that kind of thing i like okay

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see it's not that i don't like it it's that i think it's a lower priority

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then then always on display

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so every generation they're cramming in more sensors this

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time they're cramming in a sim cardless

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sim so you can have a cellular connection without needing to actually

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put a sim card in it which is really cool and i would be floored if we don't

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see the same technology in every phone moving forward at some point here and

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the thing that's messed about that is that's two devices running off the same

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sim card what is that never happens like you can

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make calls from the phone and then you've got yours no you still you so it's an independent

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activation with the carrier so it has a sim card it's just built

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into the pcb but it's the same phone number

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oh wait you know okay that i hadn't thought about that that's really cool um

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anyway so love the tech

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love the idea of not having to take your phone with you or like even take it out

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all day if you don't do a ton of texting if you just need to like set yourself a

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reminder uh take a call when people call you

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i just i hate that we aren't making it a watch

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first before it's a computer on your wrist and i feel like every time they

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have an opportunity to throw a marginally bigger battery in it or to to

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not put something extra in it throw a slightly more power efficient processor

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in it and turn on always on display they

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don't they just make it why do you want that more advanced because i don't want

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want to be able to like just see what time it is you want to just look down

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without even having to turn the watch yeah i mean you're you wear a watch

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right now yeah people can't see it but like so let's say i'm like this jesus

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you want to just be able to look at it you don't even want to have to tweak it

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no even that why should i have what is that what's just the littlest tweak

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that's stupid what if i'm okay you know okay here's something yeah but the other

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side of that coin is having it on all the time for no reason stupid

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no it's not stupid what if it was dimly on and then if they tweaked it

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it would shine tell you what let's say i didn't have a computer in front of me right now i'm sitting having a

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conversation with someone at a table i want to know what time it is

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this phone with it's always on display

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is a timepiece right there boom convenient

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so convenient i don't have to pick it up and go like this because really

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here's the issue it does time

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almost no better than a phone okay i have to do the exact same stupid

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routine to check the time on my phone as i do on my watch and they're so

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concerned about making it call phones and browse the internet and

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track all of my running and walking and swimming and

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jumping and breathing and heart rate that it they can't

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like that's so reasonable for them to do that though

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because the biggest criticism with the watch is that it doesn't do anything

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so they want to put more things in it for it to do

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is that even the biggest criticism of a watch like it is for me who is well yeah

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but you wear an analog watch you i would

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have created your own biggest complaint why don't you get a casio calculator

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watch then if you want it to do something but it's just small you could

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take boobies on it and be like this noob

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probably you could probably write noob list too i don't think you could know that

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there's no n yeah no n all right do i know numbers

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i'd actually the secret so i don't even know how to tell time on this thing

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what's the secret watches i don't know what this means

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it's two lines down two lines down o'clock i get to go home

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digital age two lines down o'clock

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you know okay i'll confess that reading analog time is not my forte either i'm

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really slow at it like you're counting by five something i'm super slow at it

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like obviously i can do it but it it takes me a minute it's a form of muscle

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memory it's uh it's and you know what it's funny because i think i'm probably

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not the only one like you remember it wasn't that long ago Windows

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had an analog clock when you click the oh that's funny we're in the way there

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we go had an analog clock when you clicked the uh time in the bottom right

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corner no thank you whereas now

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they went digital with it because i think this is just a a skill like

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driving manual that's fading from our

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collective um well it's

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you could you could learn as a toddler to read that way earlier than a analog

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watch there's no secret to it if you know what the number looks like then you

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know how to say just say it out loud yes and no i agree too okay no time is a

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little bit complicated for little kids as someone who has a little kid um and

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has so many so here you man explain me i

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used to be a little kid i know how it goes dad's playing okay

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i'm just joking go ahead please the word mansplaining is banned from the lan show

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as of this moment because there's two men talking so it's

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no that's not why it's banned it's banned because it's ridiculous um okay

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so see how you explain to me that it's ridiculous okay dad's planning dad's

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playing is allowed no it's not come on we're not all dads

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so so i was going through this with my son

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and he goes um i said okay we've got to be at school or

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somewhere i forget where i was talking about but we've got to be there at at 8

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50. and he goes oh okay

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so but we have the half of the rest of the hour until nine or so 10 days versus

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12 days yeah he figured we were using like a base 10 system

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uh for time and i kind of went uh uh no okay actually not so so there are things

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about time that are complicated even if you're looking at the numbers but i'm

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just talking about the reading of it i feel like we've gotten off topic a

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little bit here so bezel-less displays the apple watch

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we want to talk about the i'm not excited about

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because it doesn't have an always on display and

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apple can sell me another watch like you know sos with just your watch it's

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pretty cool um not needing to be able to get at your phone or even have it with you all cool

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stuff but i'm not buying another one until

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they give me and always on display okay all right what's the next what's

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the next product that they had um what did i mean did they update safari or

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something let's just get them eaten potatoes um

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no no no hold on uh what what oh right apple's new headquarters

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the design the design looks great i thought the

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keynote from the steve jobs theater was absolutely gorgeous also have you seen

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their new stores the town center center or town hall or

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what was it town town center okay center it's just we're not you know what forget

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it let's let's just not talk about it we're not going to talk about it from the west we're not going to talk about

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the iphone at all let's talk about the new concept for apple's retail store and

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sorry i almost called it a store it's not a store

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it's a town center because this is going to be a place where people go

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to gather and teach each other and learn

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from each other and interact with each other that's right where where they're

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actually apple is bringing it full circle okay they took us an interaction

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they took us from talking to each other like this to talking to each other

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like this when we're in the same room that's not how you use a phone and now

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they're bringing us back to talking like this about this are you sure they are

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yeah that's what it's all about it doesn't

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matter you know how many bezels are on it

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we just want to connect with each other and that

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that is what apple's enabling that's malarkey for the uninitiated

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this is what's happening they are at least internally calling their stores the apple store is

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now called oh man twitch twitch chat it's like Linus stop the apple stop

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center no stop or town square town square sorry

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whatever it's called question question the first do they expect

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the public to refer to them that way

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i would say keep dreaming but uh apple people apple people man i mean they'll

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do it they're gonna do it you can get them to call it a magic mouse if you can

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get them to call something a magic mouse then i think you can get them i want to

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see someone who has a bad experience i'll be mad about it and still call it

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that way so i went to the apple town square today and the geniuses there

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totally sucked so they have to call the mayor because he's the only one that knows what's going on there

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i assume it goes all the way and the manager is called the mayor now

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maybe uh an everyday zombie

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says can you stop wandsplaining right now

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what a whanner okay i like that i like that that's pretty good appletown mayor

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mayor yes um

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okay okay fine so that was your first question the answer honestly i'm i'm

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actually gonna go with no i don't think anyone is gonna start

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calling it like you can get people to call it apple

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store because that's what it is yep it's

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a store where you buy apples no wait it's not

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they can do anything second question are they gonna change

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the sign

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okay so i actually didn't look that closely at the

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designs for these

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but if i had to guess like i don't even think here hold on a second apple town

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town square here we go uh let's let's get some images up here because if i had

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to guess i would say they probably would just have an apple logo

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that would be my guess yeah so look yeah i think i think that's where that's a

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rectangle okay no no

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oh shut up um i'm not it's not even if

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you stand on the corner can you call it the house this this town square here

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just has like an apple logo this is clearly an exceptional example that's

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outdoor it's literally a plaza no that's like the idea though but most apple

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stores are in malls that's true but i think the idea behind

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some of these town squares is that they're actually like acquiring

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um like what was this building that they said i think they said they bought like

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some historic building in like italy or some crap like this thing

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they're gonna have their flagship stores

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yeah see but but here it doesn't say apple store it's just an apple logo

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but they are changing the design of the retail space to facilitate some kind of

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human interaction yeah and they're planning to bring in actual experts on things

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although they were saying that this new position they've created like creative

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something will be to creatives what the genius is to whatever and i'm kind of

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like well if it's a genius then like if if we're creating an analog for

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geniuses then my expectations are fairly low

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um ouch apparently it was in france

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europe somewhere why don't we go with that um okay so

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what was your second question i don't remember talking about the sign yeah

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are they actually expecting people to talk to each other in there because you don't you go in there and you look at

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the apple stuff that you want to look at and you still don't talk to other humans

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who are just shopping in there well here's here's a question though you're explaining

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you're apple shopper explaining right now because i don't think you've ever

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actually walked into an apple store and bought something oh except for that time

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that you wanted to get a red iphone to make a video and i went to the mall and

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i was the one who bought that red iphone and brought it back to the office

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yeah but you didn't buy it okay i didn't go through like the

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shopping you handed over company money to walk out of the store with something

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for company use in and out in two minutes yes um so

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as someone who is not cult of apple can

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you really cult of apple splain to people who are apple shoppers

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so like normal cult of apple people they go in there they rub shoulders

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like a collective boner or giddiness about how sweet apple is and they kind

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of like they experience the products they look up at each other eyes mean

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they're like are you seeing this this is so sick is that the idea here i don't

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know actually i'm not i'm much of an apple shopper either

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so you don't need someone apples okay all right let's let's let's stop with

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the let's stop with the blue balls we'll talk about the phone iphone 8

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shockingly iterative um to me 7s you can

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tell i don't understand why they called it eight

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the only reason that i can think of is that this is a gradual phase out of

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having because right now they've got what they've got the essie which isn't

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numbered at all right then they've got the iphone number

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then they've got the iphone we skipped a number and it's 10 now for some reason

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because 10th anniversary and it's not a numeral so if i had to guess well they

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called it 10 no yeah yeah but it's a roman numeral 10. yeah it's not like a a

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one zero so it's clearly separate so if i had to guess what they're doing is

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they are changing the lineup so that the regular

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numbers um are just going to be the replacement

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for what an se would have been and we're going to get no 8s we're just

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going gonna get a nine and we're going to be using that same

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body design that we've had since the six we're going to be using that like kind

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of for a bit on the value option yeah okay

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and then that gives them one more generation to kind of get people used to

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this idea and it buys them then two full

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years for OLED panels to get more reasonable so that they can bring the

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x x i and 12 like like this this more premium

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design so they can bring that

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into the kinds of price points that they want for their step down so the whole

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lineup is going to look like x i

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and then last gen x so that'll be your top of the line and

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then your step down and then you're going to have the

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kind of the the cheapo line is going to be the nine

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and like the se or something like that i'll call it nine

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i i i think maybe give it a new name just like s u yeah or they might do away

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with numbers entirely and so they might have like an se and then like something

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else entirely and basically i think they're starting over at x

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or that line extension's huge though or

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get this before we go into our sponsor spots for

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the day i have one more theory bomb to drop on you oh what am i gonna do you

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know how os 10 has just been os 10 forever yeah what if

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this is just iphone 10 forever

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because apple is responsible for this naming bs that

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seems to have taken over the technology industry where they just call the

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product the same thing they did last year

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and the fact that it is so confusing for consumers don't worry about it we're

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just gonna do it

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what if it's just iphone x i don't think that's gonna be the case because on the

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iphone they still haven't done it they still haven't gone no this is just the

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new mac they are the masters of making you want the newest thing every year you

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don't need an x right now if you have a seven but

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you [ __ ] want one don't you do we drop f bombs in one no we don't

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sorry everyone you want one though

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you want one okay but but then why would they do that on the macbook

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why would they do it on the macbook pro why do they just call it macbook pro

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every time see apple tv i don't know but

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then but then they went and they broke the system they called it the apple tv

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4k see i don't know what they're doing i

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think they should just do years we should all just do years i like it i

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like that no because what if you launch two products in a year 16 q2 16 2. oh

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16 and a half that's worse do that with car model years

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Android mobile experience so you don't even have to be sitting in front of your

459
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desktop in order to do all of your paperwork which is pretty sick so head

460
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over to freshbooks.com when and check it out they've got a 30

461
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day free trial just enter when in the how did you hear about a section i think

462
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i managed to do that whole spot without any of my notes

463
00:32:13,679 --> 00:32:19,600
which is good because and you're telling me to dial back the [ __ ] this tab is bro

464
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:23,760
well no your experience shill your your silliness is just crappy though you're

465
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:29,519
just bad at it oh we'll consult like twitch chat for that we'll consider no

466
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:33,039
twitch chat always always sides against

467
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me exactly they never perfect proxy for

468
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:40,240
the truth no they just love to hate they love to hate

469
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:45,120
um oh oh also on the show this week hold on

470
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:50,080
hold on where is it don't leave me where is it where is it okay

471
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:55,840
ha i get to punish you dude i can take that this like a

472
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:58,080
champion give me the spiciest one this

473
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:01,279
this is for dropping f-bombs on the show bring it on

474
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,960
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475
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476
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:12,559
preservatives the goal was to create a snack that was full of flavor and let me

477
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:17,440
tell you this is full of so much flavor that it

478
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:21,679
doesn't just affect your mouth i'm a vegetarian

479
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:26,399
no you aren't i am are you really yeah wait what i'll eat it though what since

480
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,200
when are you a vegetarian well why would you say you can handle it why did you

481
00:33:27,679 --> 00:33:33,120
say together because in the past i've eaten wings that need that require

482
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:37,519
waiver to be signed and i'm positive that this isn't near as spicy

483
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:42,399
as that really this is i'll do it for science

484
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:45,679
this is carolina reaper jerky you know that right what does that

485
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:50,159
mean those are just words to me those are just words okay uh so which carolina

486
00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:53,279
are we talking south and north if it's spicy it's gotta be south i

487
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:58,159
don't think it matters am i supposed to eat the whole thing at once um no

488
00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:01,120
i would not no i would not recommend what are you doing

489
00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:06,000
your body your body's gonna hate you

490
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:11,280
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493
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494
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great flavors um like their sea salt is really good um

495
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:31,119
luke really likes the traditional that one's not my favorite i like the mojo or

496
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:34,960
moho or whatever it is we don't have any of that right now so

497
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,359
i guess i'll settle for uh i'll settle for some traditional conditionals pretty

498
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good um so yeah go check them out over at um

499
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savage jerky.com

500
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:51,359
you have to be suffering right now

501
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:55,119
this is pretty good pretty good jerky it is good jerky but you have to be

502
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:59,599
suffering no i don't i don't buy it no matter how straight of a face you keep

503
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:05,839
there's absolutely no way that that's not painful

504
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,839
all right sound perspiring

505
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:12,880
okay yeah you got some perspiration action going on there i will admit that i'm

506
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,880
doing some mind over matter wim hof stuff here but

507
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:21,280
like it's pretty you got your eyes are watery a little bit more watery than

508
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:26,079
before they're a little glossier synergy it's spicy

509
00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:29,680
it's spicy that's the spicy jerky i've had

510
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:33,599
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511
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512
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between two or more computers so you'll no longer confuse which one is for which

513
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and i think the coolest thing about it is that it works cross-platform Windows

514
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mac even Linux you can seamlessly move

515
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your mouse across the screens they've got great options

516
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great options great features like clipboard sharing between the computers

517
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drag and dropping files the ability to set up hotkeys

518
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and more and they offer a basic and pro option with a one-time payment for

519
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lifetime access so head over to seamless.com synergy

520
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:14,320
linus29 wow what a terrible vanity url um and you can save

521
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50 percent so it's worth typing in all that nonsense in order to get a great

522
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,119
deal on a great piece of size is that how old you you were when they became a

523
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:25,280
sponsor no i'm not that old

524
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:29,040
29. okay i got it all right i got to give

525
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:32,560
you props for holding up that well to the reproduction it's worse now it's

526
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:37,680
worse now than it's been i'm suffering now it gets you oh let me

527
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:41,040
tell you the suffering hasn't just begun i'm aware

528
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:45,760
i have diarrhea every day anyway can we talk about the NVIDIA

529
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:50,320
uh the rumor that they're working on no no i'm not done with the iphone 8 yet oh

530
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,599
we haven't even talked about the x or 10 rather i want to talk about it's better

531
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,640
okay so the 8 is super iterative whatever it's got slightly better kind

532
00:36:55,119 --> 00:37:01,920
of everything um the 10.

533
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:05,280
i hate the speaker and face

534
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:10,640
face detection face id cutout what's the speaker

535
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,440
that's that cutout at the top oh that thing i don't mind that

536
00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:19,280
when you're watching videos on that though come on

537
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:24,400
have you seen have you seen what it looks like when you're watching a video on it yeah it's

538
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:28,560
got like a little cut out yeah i don't mind it it's horrible

539
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:32,240
i mean i might get used to it really fast in my review i might be like you

540
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:37,040
know what this is fine it's totally cool forget it

541
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:42,640
um but i love touch id

542
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:47,680
i'm actually super the opposite of stoked that we're getting rid of touch

543
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:47,680
id agreed um

544
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:54,720
i think that getting into uh getting into where's the um

545
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:59,920
where's that article that you brought up um thanks bixby bixby is activated right

546
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:04,560
now uh i think she's trying to help where the there's where's that article

547
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:07,839
that you brought up thanks bixby bixby's activated right now

548
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,839
that we're getting into where there's where's that article that you brought up thanks bixby bixby's active change

549
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:18,000
products we're getting into where there's worse that article that you brought up a

550
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,440
reminder to give james a raise

551
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,400
it working that you brought up time to give james rays

552
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:29,200
actually we need to unlock the phone fixed views on my phone

553
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:34,480
all right bixby's with you um okay so where's that uh

554
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:38,240
okay so aside from okay

555
00:38:35,359 --> 00:38:44,720
so they claim face id is more secure but senator al franken has actually

556
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:47,200
questioned apple about the security of

557
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:52,240
their face id and has raised some fairly interesting

558
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:56,640
points here namely so apple has stated that all face

559
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:01,599
print data will be stored locally on an individual's device as opposed to being

560
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,960
sent to the cloud so is it currently

561
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:07,040
possible either remotely or through physical access to the device for either

562
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:11,040
apple or a third party to extract and obtain usable face print data from the

563
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:14,240
iphone 10. is there any foreseeable reason why

564
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:18,240
apple would decide to begin storing such data remotely apple has stated it used

565
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:22,480
more than one billion images in developing the face id algorithm where

566
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,359
did these one billion face images come from that's less relevant to me

567
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,640
really you don't think that's interesting

568
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,560
it could be but the answer could be very mundane it

569
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,599
could be shutter stock it could be just public images of

570
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:40,000
facebook where would you get a billion images of faces the internet

571
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:44,560
well yeah the whole internet yeah but then how would you guarantee

572
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:48,480
that you have the rights to use it because the whole terms of service where

573
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:52,560
you can collect non-personally identifying information the thing that

574
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:56,800
people like usually agree to is that it's not supposed to be personally

575
00:39:53,920 --> 00:40:00,720
identifying your face is by definition personally identifying

576
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:04,880
what steps did apple take to ensure its system was trained on a diverse set of

577
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:09,440
faces in terms of race gender and age how are they protecting against racial

578
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:12,079
gender or age bias in face id

579
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:15,839
in the unveiling of the iphone 10 apple made numerous assurances about the

580
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:20,000
accuracy and sophistication please describe again all the steps that happen

581
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:23,520
it didn't work to ensure that face id can distinguish an individual's face

582
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:28,160
from a photograph or mask for example i would love

583
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,520
to do that maybe like a death mask

584
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:35,440
and then like i don't know exactly how we do it i

585
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,720
would love to have a Linus mask

586
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:41,040
can i uh if we make one for the video okay no you

587
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:45,520
can't have it no you're never gonna use it yet that is so weird

588
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:49,760
strawball if we made it while you watch

589
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:55,760
you can't drop f-bombs you could say that okay if we had one in the merch

590
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:59,200
store we have to draw the line somewhere how many people will be honest for

591
00:40:57,359 --> 00:41:03,760
halloween we all know i wasn't gonna stop saying weird sexual stuff so

592
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:09,599
okay at least that can go over somebody's head whereas f-bombs are just half-bombs yeah see

593
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:15,359
um the answer is yes yes i would it would enhance the experience can apple confirm

594
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,480
that it has no plans to use face print data for any purpose other than the

595
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:23,280
operation of face id these are all good questions um the biggest one for me is

596
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,720
is face id really going to be more convenient

597
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:32,079
than touch id and that's one that i'm having some trouble with because they

598
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:35,440
did show they did show it operating not directly staring at the phone which

599
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:40,560
is the biggest issue i have right now with iris id by the time i like go like

600
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:44,720
this and i i swear probably a good 40 to 50 percent of the time i use it i'm like

601
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,240
that's cash you don't want playing around with it um

602
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:52,000
a lot of the time it would be faster for me to just key in a pin cause

603
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:55,839
fingerprint unlock on the back of your device which your iphone people aren't

604
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:59,520
used to you can unlock that sucker while it's still in your pocket and you bring

605
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:03,599
it to your face it's already there so you're saying that they demonstrated

606
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,640
this thing ended up two singles it can already be unlocking before it's even

607
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:12,160
right they had it sitting on the desk like they were simulating the you know

608
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:14,480
i'm being a rude jackass at dinner

609
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,960
experience where it was sitting on the desk right there you got to be a spicy

610
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:22,160
one no no this is the this is the lamo stuff

611
00:42:19,359 --> 00:42:26,800
i've done the spicy one on stream before i've had enough um not to not today

612
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:32,240
today's been a long week i'll do it again but you know

613
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,880
i i just don't feel like it today so

614
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:39,200
iphone 10 what is there to say really

615
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:41,920
i think one last comment is that the bezel-lessness

616
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:47,119
of this samsung galaxy s8 is way better

617
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:51,040
what do you think having not held a 10. having not held a

618
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:55,119
10 it's not bezel-less it's just as thin

619
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:59,119
bezels i agree

620
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:02,400
um with that said there are times when the infinity edge does interfere with me

621
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:07,040
reaching across the screen i do have pretty small hands but on the s8 in

622
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:11,280
particular it's not nearly as bad as it is for me on the note 8

623
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:16,160
and i can pretty much work with it i love the idea of the s8 i haven't

624
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:20,560
touched an iphone 10 yet but i really like this phone you can imagine a screen

625
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:25,200
that looks like that and is curved and bezel-less like that yeah but the curved

626
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:30,720
edge actually doesn't register touch at all yeah like what if there was

627
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:33,839
a not visible but haptic bezel a haptic bezel a haptic thing you know what i

628
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,760
mean probably a matter of time i mean as soon as apple sees someone else build

629
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:42,560
some stupid weird squeeze engine they're probably thinking wow that's like almost

630
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:46,640
smart except if they'd done it with uh force touch or 3d touch then it would be

631
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:50,000
way better yoink booyah yeah i'm really surprised i thought the

632
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:56,560
10 was gonna be a knock off of the edge but maybe that was too far for apple for

633
00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:56,560
even apple what do you think um

634
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:02,319
no i wouldn't have expected that i i

635
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,440
i honestly nothing about it really surprised me the only thing that

636
00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:09,680
surprised and or disappointed me was that we didn't end up

637
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:13,680
with a touch id sensor under the screen because if it had face id and touch id

638
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:18,640
through the screen but is it because they failed to do it properly that's the rumor yeah here's

639
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:23,040
another question for you samsung is a bottleneck on their

640
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:27,280
kick OLED displays samsung is making their displays i'm

641
00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:30,720
sure apple claims to i'm sure in the keynote they said that this is the best

642
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:35,359
display you can get on a phone is it the case that samsung also has

643
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:38,560
those exact displays or is there like an exclusivity

644
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:42,079
clause that apple has the rights to that display even though samsung's one making

645
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:45,760
it funny you bring that up the issue with samsung's displays the thing that

646
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:50,480
makes them not as good as apples is that samsung intentionally

647
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:54,160
craps all over them that's the issue you mean to get other gains

648
00:44:52,800 --> 00:45:00,720
like they sacrifice something for something else well they they go bad they go full best buy

649
00:44:57,839 --> 00:45:05,920
uh crank the vividness um

650
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:07,280
mode on it and it's something that i i

651
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,560
just i don't think there's any way they're going to stop doing it is that

652
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:13,119
an asian sensibility versus american sensibility

653
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,079
i don't know it's a it's a hard thing to

654
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:23,760
it's a hard thing to say because especially given how much research all of these

655
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:28,560
multinationals do on the localization of a product for a

656
00:45:26,319 --> 00:45:31,680
given region i would have to think that if it was something that

657
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:36,480
you know americans liked to have color accurate

658
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:39,599
displays i would have to imagine that other phone makers would also tune the

659
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:44,839
displays differently for different regions um okay so this is interesting

660
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:51,440
apparently craig for uh uh sorry

661
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:53,920
apparently craig federighi uh did

662
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:56,800
go on the record with techcrunch uh answering some burning questions about

663
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:00,880
face id so i don't have time to read the whole thing but

664
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:04,480
basically apple does not even have a way to give your your face id to law

665
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:08,960
enforcement they never take possession of the data anonymized or otherwise

666
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:15,839
uh it's all in the secure enclave uh et cetera et cetera et cetera local um

667
00:46:12,319 --> 00:46:15,839
yep um

668
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:23,599
they've discussed a two-factor authentication so that you could

669
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,760
actually force the phone to require both

670
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:29,760
face id and a pin you know when you be pretty like a taste from earlier i just

671
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:33,839
basically had fire in my mouth for a second like like lava just dragon dragon

672
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:37,680
style just like just lava

673
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:41,599
magma do you need me for something two minutes to take a picture wow so

674
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:45,520
this is only your second time on lan show and you're gonna have to tackle a

675
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:49,520
topic all on your own technically it's my third can you handle not screwing

676
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:53,680
this up probably not probably not okay you wanna do the 1070 ti

677
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:58,800
i'm pretty loose right now all right let's do it all right hit it uh let's

678
00:46:55,359 --> 00:46:58,800
see where's the original article from

679
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:04,880
dang it james damn it bobby

680
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:07,440
oh well okay yeah attack power up dang it james

681
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,200
dale

682
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:18,960
i don't know if you guys could hear that but nick just did an awesome impression of the theme song to king of the hill

683
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:23,920
yeah i don't know if we're allowed to play that so it's just as well head over to youtube and watch a 24-hour live

684
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:29,119
stream of king of the hill episodes worth it okay we shouldn't be promoting yeah

685
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:32,560
we're not promoting piracy okay you are crossing so many lines james i am

686
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:37,040
kicking you off the land show no actually i need you to cover for me on the way

687
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:41,680
so here's the original uh thank you Linus original article there on tech

688
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:46,079
power up okay i'll be right back so the basic deal is

689
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:51,119
the rumor has it that NVIDIA is working on a new release of

690
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:56,079
probably my favorite graphics card the gtx 1070.

691
00:47:53,839 --> 00:47:59,520
it really hits a price performance sweet spot and there's gonna be a new one

692
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:04,240
coming out we're not sure if they're gonna call it 1070 tie or ti

693
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:08,640
or if it's just gonna be an unnamed refresh because that's what they've done in the past

694
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:12,960
for example they did a

695
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:16,560
let me look at my notes there's a refresh in the past where

696
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:21,839
instead of changing the name they just put on the branding on the box

697
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,839
what the new specs are

698
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,720
so the 1080 and the 1060 both refresh

699
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:32,960
without name changes um the gtx 1060 six Gigabyte for example is

700
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:37,119
refreshed so the reason that NVIDIA i'm talking to

701
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:42,160
nobody here and it just feels awkward the reason that they're gonna do this

702
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:44,640
refresh is because you come sit with me

703
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:50,000
is because of vega because the new rx vega cards sit right in

704
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,160
between gtx 1070s and 1080s and so

705
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,880
since NVIDIA can they might as well just release a card that just sits right

706
00:48:55,359 --> 00:49:03,359
beside that vega now we're so close i feel like we should ks

707
00:49:00,839 --> 00:49:08,160
ah Linus please things are getting weird on the lan show oh man that's like

708
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:11,920
that's saying but i go away for like literally two minutes yeah when garth

709
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:15,520
stallone is out of wayne's world falls apart the WAN Show may not know that

710
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:20,640
Linus hasn't really even seen wayne's i've seen lane's world but you don't care about it i've seen it once you

711
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:24,960
can't quote it a long time ago then you haven't seen it i know something about

712
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:28,319
party time excellent um a lot of the time when we're writing

713
00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:31,839
scripts references that are shared between us are like the body like the

714
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,319
essence of the humor like the fact that we're both south park fans comes up a

715
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:40,160
lot and i'm always going for wayne's world references and he doesn't get them and

716
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:45,520
it's just like i just every time just melt

717
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:47,359
it's not that funny it's basically an

718
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:52,000
snl skit stretched out for way too long like if i

719
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:54,800
recall correctly the plot is just a name please go

720
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,400
you're gonna tell me you're gonna tell me you also like the cable guy i bet uh

721
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:06,480
that one i haven't watched since childhood okay as a child when it came out

722
00:50:03,359 --> 00:50:07,839
i literally walked out of that movie

723
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:13,280
your parents said where are you going well i was watching it with my grandma actually she was sleeping you're just

724
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:17,200
peace go to the arcade grandma see ya it was it was

725
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:20,480
that bad and i know that i'm probably taking some flack

726
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:24,720
in twitch chat right now but cable guy was an

727
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:28,160
awful awful movie

728
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:31,680
um okay what about the scene where they're at that medieval times restaurant and they're fighting he's

729
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:34,640
doing that star trek theme song

730
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:38,480
that's classic

731
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:45,119
no next time it was not funny not funny at all next um

732
00:50:43,839 --> 00:50:48,559
why is everybody talking about rick and morty because it's probably saying it's

733
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:53,920
better than south park it's not better than south park i mean

734
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,920
rick and morty has a couple episodes

735
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,800
where i feel like they've made some sort of like

736
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:02,960
some sort of social commentary approaching the depth of an average

737
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:07,359
south park episode but maybe social commentary is not the forte but maybe

738
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:10,880
it's not but i mean how do you so you're saying it's apples oranges i'm saying

739
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,760
it's totally apples to oranges i think they're compared because they have an

740
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:16,880
overlapping fan base like types of people who like southwark are the types

741
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:19,920
of people who like rico yeah but i would say there's a lot of the types of people

742
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:23,839
who like both of them that probably don't really get either of them ah word

743
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:29,200
so um are you ransplaining right now

744
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:34,400
no i don't think so i don't think i'm not insulting rick and morty i i i

745
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:38,160
really like like lick and morty rick and rorty

746
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:42,160
um no i i really like rick and morty i just i don't think it's comparable to

747
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:45,359
south park at all i mean the other thing too is it's

748
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:49,200
basically in its infancy i mean if you go back and look at season one of south

749
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:53,680
park season one of rick and morty kind of stomps all over it season one of

750
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:55,520
south park is mostly toilet humor

751
00:51:53,680 --> 00:52:01,680
whereas by the time they hit sort of season three to season six is golden age

752
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:04,240
for sure yep six seven i mean

753
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:08,720
that stuff started to get really really good um i mean rick and morty's only on

754
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:13,359
their third season right now so and i thought honestly i thought the last

755
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:15,920
episode was probably the best one of the

756
00:52:13,359 --> 00:52:19,839
series so far in terms of actually having a meaning that's deeper than um

757
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:24,319
you know i'm i'm a silly scientist and i burp

758
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:30,640
when i talk and you know scary stuff happens or whatever

759
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:32,319
i thought the the episode with the

760
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:35,440
citadel i thought the episode sort of looking at life on the citadel was

761
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,960
really interesting it kind of

762
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:43,040
you can kind of see that they weren't necessarily really expecting much in the

763
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:47,040
way of continuity that's also something that i think the show

764
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:50,880
both embraces and suffers from that they don't really care that much about the

765
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:55,760
citadel being explicitly described as

766
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:59,839
the effort of a few thousand ricks the first time that were introduced to it

767
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:05,599
and then being expanded a couple seasons later to basically being an entire

768
00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:08,800
society of ricks and mortys that's you

769
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:10,000
know had all these struggles for so long

770
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:15,200
oh um oops and have you realized or do you care

771
00:53:13,839 --> 00:53:18,800
then okay no i don't i don't think anything i said is a spoiler i i won't

772
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:23,599
and i won't give you guys any spoilers i mean nothing that i've said will not be obvious within about the first 30

773
00:53:21,839 --> 00:53:28,400
seconds of the episode so you guys you guys are all good um but

774
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:32,720
in my opinion it's the best episode of the show so far

775
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:36,720
um anyway carry on it's not pickle rick pickle rick is just kind of goofy like

776
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:39,839
if you're if you're into kind of silly humor then pickle rick's a

777
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:45,040
great episode but it's one of my least favorite so why don't you tell us why NVIDIA is refreshing the 1070. why

778
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:48,400
didn't you just tell people why they're refreshing the 1070.

779
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:52,400
yeah pretty much just as a response to vega do you think though that they're going to call it thai or not

780
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:57,920
um i wouldn't be surprised if they don't

781
00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:01,200
if they don't yeah yeah i i just it might just be like because they yeah

782
00:53:59,839 --> 00:54:04,559
because in the past they've done they they've done it so many other refreshes

783
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,359
it's something i really don't like it's something that i wish they wouldn't do

784
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:12,559
um but again we have apple to blame for all of this crap

785
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,400
it all comes back to apple just calling their product the same thing over and

786
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:20,480
over damn it so

787
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:23,359
yeah i don't know i think the idea here is it's gonna

788
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:28,000
smash or at least be the same performance as vega but just

789
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:32,480
with a lower TDP at a similar price point so why wouldn't

790
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:36,400
you get it yep i think that uh i think that NVIDIA could have easily just sat

791
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:40,400
on their butts and done nothing about the vega launch because at this point

792
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:45,119
they're pretty much just printing money um

793
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:46,319
the r d for pascal is so paid for

794
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:51,599
um but if they do something then i mean i guess great i mean that's that's what we

795
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:55,839
want right we want competition to mean better graphics cards for all

796
00:54:54,240 --> 00:55:01,599
all right let's talk about some more AMD news der bauer the d-lidding king is

797
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:06,720
back he's back with more news i got a little carried

798
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:10,960
away there sec i don't get so this was posted on the forum by swatson and the

799
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:14,559
original uh the original article is actually a video so let's go ahead and

800
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:19,839
fire that up hey roman there you are bud

801
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:21,760
so he comes out and he's like hey AMD

802
00:55:19,839 --> 00:55:25,920
said that the two extra dies on threadripper were

803
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:30,000
specifically dummies

804
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:34,880
and it turns out that they are not just silicon spacers

805
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:39,920
but they are disabled or at least non-functional zeppelin dies that do

806
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:45,359
contain transistors why would they lie about this

807
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:49,839
this is what i don't get well okay so some people are speculating

808
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:54,640
that it could mean that in the future there may be a 32 core Threadripper

809
00:55:53,520 --> 00:56:00,480
maybe they wanted to just delay that little

810
00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:04,640
rumor from coming out but it's taken until someone delidded it

811
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:10,160
for us to speculate on that i could have speculated no no

812
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:13,440
because as puzzled as you are like i've heard speculation about that going back

813
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:18,160
to computex before threadripper even launched okay and this is from people in

814
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:20,880
the industry which always leaks so it always becomes something that's

815
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:25,119
speculated outside the world did they explicitly say that there was no transistors in there yeah they just have

816
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:29,599
a different definition of dummy than you do why wouldn't they just no they

817
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:34,240
specifically said they were spacers well they are and that they weren't

818
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:39,520
failed dyes but if we can see that they contain transistors

819
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:44,640
then okay what we don't necessarily know

820
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:48,079
what we don't necessarily know is that they are

821
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:52,319
exactly so they they did say no working

822
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:56,880
transistors so that could

823
00:56:54,319 --> 00:57:02,880
no you know what no there's no i don't really think there's any way around this

824
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,880
as far as i can tell

825
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:08,079
these are i don't i don't know i don't know what i

826
00:57:06,799 --> 00:57:11,599
don't know what they are i just what i don't understand is why

827
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:17,920
they would come out and say something like that when they could have just said

828
00:57:14,319 --> 00:57:17,920
yeah they're failed ones

829
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:24,000
or they're the f word in your product launch

830
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:26,799
yeah but everyone everyone talks like everyone talks about the process of

831
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:33,680
binning i think it's fairly well understood within the kind of enthusiast community

832
00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:38,799
that well Intel already slapped this happens

833
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,640
Intel already got to be smarmy by saying

834
00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:44,400
frederick is glued together so they could have said it's just a bunch of

835
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:48,960
failed chips glued together yeah but Intel does the same thing i mean this is

836
00:57:46,319 --> 00:57:54,160
not dab yeah but like it would it would come across really insincere completely

837
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:57,839
meaningless because everybody does it so are you confused or are you actually

838
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:00,880
just kind of upset okay so i'm just confused did they break your chin

839
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:04,880
because here we've got people saying warboy x says if the cores were enabled

840
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:09,599
the CPU would have six or eight channel memory also no it wouldn't because the

841
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:14,480
socket and the motherboards wouldn't be wired up for it now

842
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:18,079
it's possible that AMD was hoped that what they were hoping to achieve was

843
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:21,440
that nobody would run out and try to unlock cores

844
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:26,559
but then they couldn't possibly have thought that no one at any

845
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:30,559
point was going to rip apart one of the dyes once a threadripper failed they

846
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:35,440
couldn't possibly have thought that because it is really easy to tell like

847
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:41,119
you can see it's visible to the naked eye if you uh okay if you look at the

848
00:58:37,839 --> 00:58:42,799
video of the 7700k that we or 6700k

849
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:48,839
whatever the chip that fell out of the vice when burkle dropped it

850
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:52,319
it broke apart you can clearly see

851
00:58:48,839 --> 00:58:54,079
like the the the cash and the course

852
00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:58,960
like to it's visible to the naked eye that that's that that's a CPU die

853
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:02,960
once the top breaks off you're looking at me but all i can think of right now

854
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:08,400
is that my stomach is a cauldron they couldn't have possibly expected people

855
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:12,799
to not look at it at some point so

856
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:15,359
i don't know this just seems super dumb

857
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:19,760
and it's up to us to get answers yeah i mean

858
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:24,960
maybe they just didn't want this is a good theory from also from warboy x uh

859
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:27,440
maybe they just didn't want people you know

860
00:59:25,839 --> 00:59:32,079
running threadrippers and epic sockets or vice

861
00:59:29,359 --> 00:59:38,240
versa maybe they wanted to uh separate their consumer slash prosumer from their

862
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:40,000
server i don't know i don't know but i'm

863
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:43,520
i guess i'm over it i just don't understand why they wouldn't be

864
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:46,480
straightforward about this because they have nothing to gain

865
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:52,079
and their credibility to lose there

866
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:55,680
and there's a lot of times when you run into stuff like this in the industry

867
00:59:53,839 --> 00:59:59,839
where it just kind of goes why would you deceive us about this no one could

868
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:04,960
possibly care that you were doing it this way like the same way that everyone

869
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:08,000
has made cpus since basically the dawn time and by that i mean the last few

870
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:11,440
decades because that's as long as we've had cpus

871
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:15,359
why not just say yeah we're doing it that way same as use usual unless you

872
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:19,200
count the brain what

873
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:22,960
bluetooth has been hacked again oh there's more interesting ones

874
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:26,400
more interesting ones all right some attack vector Linux

875
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:30,799
it's a scary hack though because your bluetooth just has to be on and you can

876
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:33,920
get hacked iOS has been immune since 10. google provided device manufacturers

877
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:38,160
with a patch last month but it's up to them to push it

878
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:42,480
up to like the likes of samsung yeah apparently there are literally billions

879
01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:46,319
of devices that are compromised yeah but they when

880
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:50,799
this has been patched since july so well on Windows okay we're not talking

881
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:54,319
about it all right fine what else do you got for

882
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:58,000
me you want to talk about hyperloop no it's

883
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:02,079
boring ah google offers free repairs to pixel

884
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:05,200
owners affected by hurricane harvey now this is the opposite of what we were

885
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:08,559
just talking i see this being abused this is an opportunity this is

886
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:14,400
low-hanging fruit this is an opportunity for a company at google to get some kick-ass pr during a very hard time for

887
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:18,960
lots of americans to say you know what guys free repairs if your phone that's

888
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:22,160
not as waterproof as some phones on the market gets damaged in this hurricane

889
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:26,480
crisis how many people are gonna take them up

890
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:30,319
on that not that many so that is some cheap good pr

891
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:32,960
yeah we're talking about it okay

892
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:36,000
all right cheap good pr

893
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:43,440
um i don't know that this is gonna be entirely good pr but let's have a look

894
01:01:40,319 --> 01:01:43,440
at the element six

895
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:50,720
this is i'm open i'm willing to be convinced the craziest

896
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:55,119
case that i've ever seen so this is an

897
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:59,920
appearance prototype non-functional prototype that looks like the final

898
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:05,920
product uh let's go ahead and skip back over here check this thing out

899
01:02:04,319 --> 01:02:10,640
i guess i don't like that it looks like a car but that's the idea it doesn't

900
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:15,359
look enough like a car though it looks like an abstraction of a car no no no no

901
01:02:13,359 --> 01:02:17,839
because the finished one will be more like this

902
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:24,640
like it has a little grill on it well no it's also got like cutouts for the

903
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:31,760
Windows and the windshield like basically this is supposed to be

904
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:34,400
like the case that's unlike any other

905
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:38,319
case they're trying to merge art and technology yes they're making a case

906
01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:44,480
that's carbon fiber yes that belongs on the desk of like the ceo

907
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:49,119
all of that is awesome i just disagree with the form factor they chose being

908
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:53,119
this particular car shape why does it want to look like why it look like a car

909
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:58,000
it should just look like some kind of weird form

910
01:02:55,119 --> 01:03:01,680
if anything you think so like a little carbon fiber blob or something so

911
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:06,720
there's kind of the best look that we have at what the finished finish will

912
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:11,440
look like what the girls will look like this is done by the singularity

913
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:14,319
computers guys if it was anyone else then i'd be like

914
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:20,319
yeah that's dumb forget it are they in australia uh yeah

915
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:23,680
but these guys know gorgeous

916
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:28,880
gorgeous work and these guys if there was anyone

917
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:32,799
that i think would actually be able to build something like this

918
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:37,039
and make it incredible these guys would be it why is that

919
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:42,240
just because they have they have a long history of just building amazing art

920
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:46,160
pieces they've only got two backers though so it seems like most people

921
01:03:43,839 --> 01:03:51,039
agree with you or at least most people with um

922
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,480
6 000 us dollars that's what the pledge

923
01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:58,400
is that the minimum pledge that's not the minimum pledge but that's the minimum pledge to get a case

924
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:01,760
i did the math they're looking for 148 000 us dollars

925
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:06,640
yep i want to sell two that will allow them to to build 24 units so that's like

926
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:09,599
6 100 bucks each i mean obviously

927
01:04:08,319 --> 01:04:14,400
they had to get the expertise they had to build the facility like there's people hours involved

928
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:18,640
but they already have it's not like they're gonna retail for six grand eventually they just want to become a

929
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:23,119
case manufacturer this will never be retail they're gonna sell them on their site

930
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:27,280
oh are they didn't you read my comprehensive show notes

931
01:04:24,839 --> 01:04:29,440
no i'ma let you in on a little secret you're allowed to give me [ __ ] about

932
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:33,680
them poo okay

933
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,240
poo emoji about them

934
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:43,680
so i don't know i uh i i think it's cool

935
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:48,720
i don't i okay you know what i actually don't have much of a defense for it

936
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:52,880
so this was originally posted by northstorm on the forum

937
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:55,760
i think it's cool i think it's different i think it's something different

938
01:04:54,559 --> 01:05:00,160
definitely and i think that it's good for the industry to see things that are

939
01:04:58,559 --> 01:05:04,960
different and i hope it succeeds i hope he succeeds too there i do

940
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:09,440
all right this one i'm not really sure what i want this puppy on my desk

941
01:05:06,839 --> 01:05:15,680
tonight this thing's sweet this is another thing i want to watch

942
01:05:11,599 --> 01:05:19,440
you want to watch i like to watch oh ah

943
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:22,640
phillips readies the curved ultra wide

944
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:24,720
492 p8 display

945
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:28,799
a 49 inch 32 by nine so to be clear this is two of

946
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:32,960
them stacked one on top of the other stacked one on top of the other because

947
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:38,720
for some reason you would you would want to

948
01:05:34,839 --> 01:05:42,160
spend twenty two hundred dollars to have

949
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:43,599
one bezel rather than a cross of bezels

950
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:46,559
um when you could have done it for a fraction of the cost i'd if i were to

951
01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:50,960
have i just having four displays i'd rather put them side by side and i have to kick it

952
01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:54,720
no okay as someone who's actually done

953
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:57,280
ultra wide eyefinity i can tell you the experience is not as good as you might

954
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,240
think it's like looking unpleasant looking up

955
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:05,680
high although that's probably only the same height as that last tall monitor we

956
01:06:03,359 --> 01:06:08,960
looked at yeah probably but i don't like it

957
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:14,480
this thing is just bizarre um so the original article is

958
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:18,799
from a non-tech there it's not quantum dot there's no freesync

959
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:25,760
to the refresh rate is unknown it's about a grand and the resolution is uh

960
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:28,079
oh of course you oh no there it is 3840

961
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:32,079
by 1080. what were you about to say i was about to say that of course the same

962
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:36,079
guy who didn't put any any of the specs of the new iphones wouldn't put the

963
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:40,079
resolution of a monitor but you did 600 bits brightness is pretty high 5 000

964
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:45,760
to 1 contrast i find kind of hard to believe unless this is the that's what they always say our tests never have

965
01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:50,160
anything close to that maybe a va panel um set to launch in q2 of 2018. we have

966
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:54,319
already confirmed we are getting one well all this is to say you missed a

967
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:58,400
crucial piece here so we've seen a super ultra ad already from samsung that got

968
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:02,559
announced this is actually the same panel samsung is supplying the panel to

969
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:06,559
philips okay it's just samsung's is more gamery samsung's is

970
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:09,359
144 hertz we don't know the refresh rate of this one yet samsung's quantum

971
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:13,039
quantum dot and all these other expensive features this is the value one

972
01:07:11,359 --> 01:07:16,160
exactly so if you're not a gamer if you just want to look at the stock for

973
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:21,680
working shmo who needs 49 inches of display yeah for your

974
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:25,599
average joe who still has a thousand bucks but not 1500 bucks

975
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:29,440
this is it all right fair enough

976
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:33,280
all right so i think that pretty much does it for uh the WAN Show for this

977
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:36,880
week thanks guys for tuning in thanks james for coming on for the last time

978
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:41,440
and uh we will see you guys again next week same bat time same bat channel

979
01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:47,599
can you at least go the rest of the show without dropping any f-bombs

980
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:51,599
frank fairly fern gully fire truck oh by the way the calendar

981
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:56,359
we're making the calendar sexy time men of tech calendar no come on

982
01:07:57,359 --> 01:08:03,039
you camera crazy guy that monitor's not

983
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:07,680
coming out until next summer by the way next summer yeah no this is q2 2018. oh

984
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:10,720
i know but we're getting one apparently the WAN Show twitch chat is

985
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:14,640
terrible i really don't know what does that mean what do

986
01:08:13,039 --> 01:08:18,239
you mean by that what this person was expecting oh just someone posted on the

987
01:08:16,159 --> 01:08:21,120
forum the lan show twitch chat is terrible but in what way i don't know

988
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:25,920
everyone thinks they're hilarious like it's a spammy yeah i guess it

989
01:08:23,440 --> 01:08:25,920
no