how about now i mean the mic thing is bumping
we'll see what people say just waiting on the chat
to stop pressing you have to pay respect waiting on the chat
come on yeah
yeah thanks twitch chat welcome to the show
uh Linus is here minus two
hi guys i'm Linus from maple ridge bc i
enjoy socks sandals and badminton
and annual employee reviews and apparently camping
atlantis has gone camping john's on the show this week uh and we have a great
show like every week i don't even know if we have enough topics to uh to call
out in the intro thingy but we do a bunch of tech youtubers were accused of
not disclosing computex sponsorships or being paid to go to booths and all this
other kind of stuff jay from j's two cents has already released a full video
about this i know a lot of people have been talking about this on a lot of tech
a number of other twitter i'm not sure who else did like a full-on video
besides jay but i know that paul and kyle and i think also some others at
least addressed it on twitter yeah gamer's nexus was talking about it as
well like a lot of people were talking about it on twitter and then i know jay made a full dedicated video outside of
that i'm not entirely sure uh but we'll talk about that unsurprisingly everyone
in the youtube tech review scene is friends
so this got slammed down pretty fast with a collective effort of like what
the f that's bull poop um anyways moving
on we'll talk about that more later there's a rumor that an eight core
version of the 8700k is coming this fall
uh people are thinking that they're just kind of Intel is just
kind of reacting to AMD because they don't really seem to have a logical roadmap anymore but we'll we'll talk
about that later also at t closes the time warner deal is this like straight
up like for sure these according um so i actually your arms look huge
you're a machine i'm sorry he's off camera yeah nick is
over here off camera flexing for us and trying to distract us from the show with
his pythons uh yeah but yes um i talked about this on techlink today um okay yes
this deal is apparently final so wow the judge approved it like two days ago and
i think they were just sort of chomping at the bit to get it done so wow
okay also we've got apple uh is trying to
stop developers from sharing data on users friends that
sounds good probably yeah i don't know um a rumor
that the that there's an AMD Radeon rx 680
which like an expected price range of like three to four hundred bucks
and a rumor that Windows 10 is gonna run on a google pixel book
which is pretty weird but probably a good idea and
we're going to talk about smash brothers ultimate briefly maybe so yeah that's going to happen oh
yeah that's actually pretty sweet okay there are no good topics today
yeah but then like things that other people care about other than me
people care about this
do you want it that would be pretty cool
yeah here oh right uh sponsors uh
moss backpack savage jerky and uh ltx
oh wow we're sponsoring our sponsor ourselves it's amazing
and set that back and uh
here we have so much ill-gotten money according to this first topic we're
going to talk about that we can just sponsor ourselves yeah which i think we're going to bring nikon for us so the
first topic of the day is going to be the tech youtubers accused of knowing
you're getting up okay yeah yeah yeah okay i'll just like stand in the back
i'll do a i'll do a slab squat in the back yeah but um well you're gonna get
getting owned by the microphone it's okay i'll just figure it out yeah tech
youtubers accused of not disclosing computex sponsorships so nick had the
great idea of coming down as our businessman to directly address
sure um it's pretty simple if we're paid by someone we we tell you
that's literally it yes we visit sponsors booths yes we
create coverage at sponsors booths um we say that right at the beginning of the
video at the end of the video we do not charge an appearance fee to
show up at a booth brands reach out to us they say we have
interesting stuff and you should check it out and we say okay sure we might check it out and sometimes we do and
sometimes we don't and that's literally how we do it so
if you are concerned that the content that you're
watching is paid for just check the beginning of the video and if it says this is sponsored by so
and so then yes and if it doesn't say that then no and it also say that in the
in the video description so it's literally that simple for for us
yeah that's it cool short and to the point yeah i'm
gonna i don't know from my perspective it's like
i don't know it's it's literally that simple if we're paid by someone we say
it and if we don't say it then we're not paid by them to make that content that's
it yeah anyway cool and i'll add some like
more kind of anecdotes but that's that's more or less it um i i think most people
in the tech review space do sort of the same deal i can't think
of anyone off top my head who doesn't disclose sponsorships that i've been
able to notice but um like if if at a lot of the shows that
i've done it's changed a little bit since i've been doing a lot of shows but
a lot of the shows that i've done the majority of the videos that come out of
that show are not have nothing to do with the sponsorship
for that show so like say say
Corsair because they sponsored a bunch of shows that i did in the past say
Corsair is sponsoring it they were a sponsor at computex so okay that works
we created 10 videos at computex one video was at the Corsair suite they
were a sponsor of the show we said that it was sponsored by them
um the other sponsor we had was glasspass who wasn't at the show and
isn't a computer manufacturer so wouldn't be at the show so ninety
percent of the videos were not about the sponsor yeah competitive yeah so so nine
out of ten videos were not about Corsair and oftentimes we'll have it where like
i'm gonna use Corsair again i've done a a show
at pax where Corsair was the sponsor and i covered like three or four competitors
all positively and that was fine and everyone was okay and Corsair was happy
and we were happy and everyone else was happy and just my experience with this
which is like obviously a lot more limited than someone like luke but it's
been a couple of years since i've been to a show for the company with ces but
um a big part of my job when i was a ces at that year was just go around and find
interesting stuff um sponsorship money any
no those sorts of considerations had nothing to do with i was doing it was
just walk around take notes if something is interesting get some b-roll of it
maybe we can do a video on it that was literally it there was never anything
shady exchanged in the background so yeah and that's that's another important
point that i didn't mention um but like
we don't do anything um where someone says you
can't do this all of our sponsorships are just about
what we can do um we don't do like exclusivity with anyone in the computer
space at all yeah yeah it would be a bad idea
for us too is tying our hands as to what we can do which makes no sense from a
business perspective so the thing that always makes me kind of chuckle is that
people go oh you guys just want money you just want money if you think we're
all about money what would be more intelligent taking
some money now and potentially losing the trust of viewers or taking more
money in the long term while maintaining the trust of yours and partners
like if you just think we're all about money the smart choice is for us to be
honest about who we're being paid back because then we have long longevity and
when you have a company of 20 odd people i don't know the exact number but
somewhere around there and Linus media group is indirectly kind
of whole propping up Floatplane right now like that's a lot of people and
literally companies to support you want a long-term solution you don't want to
burst of money in a short period i think when scandals or religious scandals like
this pop up people tend to concentrate on short term like oh we have evidence
of like this one deal that has this like impressive dollar amount on it maybe and
that's obvious obviously like oh we have evidence of a thing that may
have happened one time you know and that i think gets eyeballs against clicks as
opposed to what you were just talking about where oh we're trying to like make
as much as we can through like a long-term review of things and what's going to be sustainable for the long
term that isn't particularly interesting to someone who wants to read about a
youtuber scandal and like most tech youtubers that i know of that i've
watched their show coverage of do it in generally the same way
that we do i'm not saying anyone's copying each other i'm not getting into that that doesn't matter but it's you
you go to the show you do like your little right at the beginning of the video call out thank you for bringing me
to the show you make a video about whatever happens to be there that'll
probably include one to two videos of the company that brought you uh plus a
whole ton like the last show we were at 90 of
the videos were from unrelated companies and then at the end of the video you
often do another call out thank you for bringing me computex and then you move
on it's worked the same way for like five years or something i think
we're probably like on the more aggressive end of like
actually doing content with sponsors like that's what made me laugh about
this like list or whatever was that like gamers nexus was included yeah and
they're like the least chilly people you could think of they will destroy
everyone yeah yeah anyway i didn't want to make the whole show about this i just
figured as well yeah i know well it was important to address because i know uh a
lot of the other tech guys have been really vocal about this on twitter and
jay made the video and i don't think we've really talked about it much we don't yeah we don't typically
um we use the WAN Show for that kind of stuff so we decided to talk about it a
little bit but yeah that's about it yeah okay thanks
so yeah if you want if you want a little bit more information on stuff you can
you can watch jay's video um i don't remember exactly what it's titled but i
think it's his second most recent video give me one
second it's called the truth about how i earn money and it's kind of cool because he
goes into more stuff than just shows he runs down basically uh the like breadth
of his business he talks about the merchandising line he talks about uh
other deals that he's done and uh how he's trying to grow stuff like his uh
personal branded merch and whatnot it's a little bit like the um the honest
answers for you though yesterday about how we make money although we're not accusing jay of like copying us or
anything like that it's just a good it's it's a good thing to do i think so yeah
it was i think it was a good it was really good timing and a good idea for
jay to do his now and we did ours a while ago yes for i believe a similar
reason i don't remember or not i don't think
there was one big specific specific event i think just there was a lot of
fans were questioning i think there was a lot of toxicity like in the comment
sections of some of our videos between like like the Intel fans the AMD fans the
NVIDIA fans all going at each other and trying to say oh here here's who
which which companies line his favorite NVIDIA shill thing or something like
that i think yeah yeah because i remember in that video we talked about how like NVIDIA has giving us almost
nothing uh we just make a lot of videos about them because people like their stuff
that means they're the biggest player in the gp industry so we kind of and GPU
videos do do really well um so yeah we
have our honest answers thing jay has his truth about how i make money i
recommend watching both of them i find them both very interesting yes even art
like i knew all of ours already but even ours i think was was quite good um
and yeah the fact that gamers nexus was included is hilarious because they just
rip holes in everything they do so like yeah like their their their stuff is
like so technical and in-depth and like if you know if if any youtuber is going
to try to get away with that kind of thing they would be they would have the
hardest road to getting away with it so why no i don't know but
anyways moving on to a rumor
love them rumors uh we went from a rumor
about us to a rumor about a tech company this is a wonderful show
spicy though based on hardcore definite facts um so anyways there's a
rumor about an eight-core version of an 8700k that could be coming this fall
this is uh by guru 3d and it was posted by rakanov on the forum i'm going to
post this into the twitch chat real quick what did i just do
what am i doing i wasn't holding ctrl i see
there we go um but yeah it's it's
people are kind of speculating that this isn't really
this wasn't really planned for oh that sucks am i using the right thing uh and
whether or not it was planned for it does seem quite reactionary uh maybe it
was coming i suspect even if it was coming it was going to be coming later
then it did end up coming i kind of think the truth is probably somewhere in
the middle as we try to get our technical issues worked out here
yeah you want to keep going with that yes i will okay so uh but yeah what i was
going to say was um you know there's a question here in front of me does Intel
even have their own roadmap anymore or are they just being reactionary towards
what AMD is doing it might be a little bit of both um
because all of oh there we go it's working now all of Intel's difficulties
trying to get a 10 nanometer chip to market have been very very well
documented right like oh when are they going to originally
release 10 nanometer like a year ago two years ago or something like that yeah
yeah so so they have to do something to keep
innovating clinical innovating in the meantime but um you know AMD did they
force Intel's hand here maybe a little bit um i do think it's really ironic
that we're seeing so what it's um how many years has it
been since the fx series from AMD came out like seven years or so quite a while
something like that so it's so so ironic
now i think that Intel is reacting and trying to compete with AMD
just by strapping more cores onto a CPU
because an eight core i7 is not something we've seen on the mainstream
consumer end you had originally or before you had to buy
um an enthusiast platform an enthusiast motherboard to do that so
uh but eight core version apparently coming uh this fall no pricing
information on that yet but um it's interesting because you know um
obviously this is gonna be the most course we've ever seen from Intel on the consumer platform but it's consumer yeah
but it is kind of funny um you know seeing is the big knock on AMD for a
long time was oh they're selling these six and eight core cpus but who cares
they're not really giving anyone a benefit so yeah um but
the thing was especially back then with Intel having so much of the market share
no one was able to develop for that reasonably so now having
AMD cpus matter a lot more uh to be
completely honest and having Intel have to react to that
and pump out a bunch of courses meaning there's a lot more cores across
the field meaning it'll make a lot more sense for developers to push for it which would be really cool because i
don't know if you guys remember this but i used to make cores for gaming videos
and i would do like oh it's summer 2014
how many cores do you need to game with and we stopped after i made like three
or four of them because we were like well you could watch any of these and
get the answer because it was the same thing every single time so hopefully
this will actually mix that up and uh we can make another course for gaming
videos yeah you know and obviously there's been development challenges just
with how you know the stuff is actually coded to spread the word cloud out loadout
among more cores but you know there might be more effort put into that now
that what you were saying there's just more cores out there where you have a
chip with four cores eight threads or you know six and twelve is just a more
mainstream choice now so it's it's you always have to have one obviously the
software or the hardware has to come first usually it's easier for the
industry if the hardware comes first i know with certain games that have come
out and stuff it's been like oh wow hardware really isn't ready for this yet
yeah like nothing can run this yeah yeah exactly exactly and then that's usually
a fairly uncomfortable spot for the industry to be in it's fun
i enjoy that space but it's fairly uncomfortable for consumers to be
constantly needing to replace all their stuff to be able to do anything so
having the hardware first is good so we're going to get eight core out there and get people used to it and have
developers start using it more often that would be pretty sweet and awesome
absolutely it is it is a little bit of a kick in the pants for people who recently i
i know someone specifically who like just bought a new processor uh that
being said this isn't coming until fall so it will be a little while uh but like
the 8086 i7 8086k like just came out
yeah that was and it's pretty sweet but like that was like a nice little stunt
for however many weeks that yeah chip to get but
and then i was like oh coming this fall you've got an eight core version of an
8700k so it's like it's like what if you like spend a ton of money and you buy a
house and the house has like trim or
it's um where the cabinets are a certain color or
certain style that was that was in for like literally a month yeah and everyone
thinks it's ugly this is yeah so if you buy the expensive CPU it's a bit like that so oh man yeah
i couldn't give two craps about cabinets but i totally understand the reference
um gotta get that resale value man it's it's great when you walk into someone's
house who's been like perfectly maintained done a really good job of
keeping their house up but they haven't changed a single thing in it since like
the mid-90s they have like lurid pink wallpaper with like a water
yeah it's actually so cool i just it's like a time capsule
um okay and moving on to something that i
know nothing about at all so good luck uh at
t closes the time warner deal this sounds terrible to me
i don't know i don't know anything about it uh a federal judge ruled on tuesday
that att's 85.4 billion
dollar bid for time warner was legal
imposing no conditions on the merger all of this despite a lawsuit from the
justice department arguing that the deal would be anti-competitive and oh my
goodness how is it not i don't understand i can tell you a little bit
about that please don't give me one quick second before you do that sure i i
kind of bait and switched you there we're gonna use uh theverge.com for our
source and thank you to sherman tanker for posting this on the forum you're
good to go okay um so
so when i was in law school just a quick disclaimer i didn't learn a ton about
antitrust if you watch like if you watch tech wiki and the videos we've sort of
done like law and tech a lot of it has to do with intellectual property because
i took a lot of intellectual property in law school so talking about copyrights
and like what you can do with content online and how you can share it and that sort of thing um but here's why i can
tell you about antitrust and just in case you even know what antitrust is um
antitrust law basically concerns companies that get too big the idea of
antitrust law is to prevent monopolies is to prevent one company dominating the
marketplace for a certain thing you know
imagine if the only company out there making monitors was lg for example that
wouldn't be good you would have no choice in what you could buy so uh so
with this um what's happening is at t which is
obviously a huge telecommunications company they run you know back in the
day that are most known for running phone networks these days they're a huge isp
um they just bought um time warner which
includes um some really big like media properties uh hbo cnn um warner brothers
basically everything warner brothers does is owned by time warner so
what this is called is called a vertical merger and the reason it's called a
vertical merger is because you have one company buying another company that does
something different or more specifically
one company provides the other company with with supplies or it's a plot or
supply chain right so um in this case time warner is providing content they're
providing like i said they're um they own hbo and cnn so they're
providing game of thrones or the sopranos or the wolf blitzer show or
whatever people watch on cnn i don't know i don't watch cnn anymore but um so
and but you know att is the isp so um
they're providing the content that att can deliver down their pipes so
that's what we mean by a vertical merger and there's also a horizontal merger
which is a little bit simpler where one company buys another company that does
basically the same thing imagine if ups bought fedex for example right that
would be a horizontal merger but so when when the government so is that like a
vertical merger would be like you you buy functionality and a horizontal
merger would almost be like you buy market share yeah that's that's not a
bad way to put it roughly yeah you're buying functionality you're buying supplies like to help you somehow you
know right so um like imagine if mcdonald's like have their own farms
that's vertical integration you know tesla has purchased a few like
manufacturing companies yeah and like like companies that are into like tools
and manufacturing and whatnot so that probably helps them vertically
i'm not sure exactly how to classify that because i think um i think also
manufacturing yeah yeah i'm not exactly sure but anyway so um so
so specifically talking about this um so the justice department of the u.s took
um 18t to court afraid that this would make att too big um there's like an
anti-trust concern here with just way too much market power but um legally
it is um and i was actually looking at the judge's decision which is like 200
pages long and full of legalese obviously earlier but one key thing he
mentioned was that in a horizontal merger courts usually
have a little bit easier time deciding you can just say oh you're buying another company that does something
similar so let's just look at how much market share you'll have now and if it's
too much market share we'll just say you can't do this it's easy a vertical
merger is a lot more difficult because you're buying a company that does
something else so these sorts of cases they tend to be very fact intensive
there is very case-by-case basis and
just based on that alone the government immediately already had a tougher time
proving its case to go in front of a judge and saying and say hey att buying
time warner is going to be really bad for consumers it wasn't good enough for
to get the court to buy it and the judge said get out and they let 18 to do the merger
and that's kind of it so so
people are saying this in twitch chat and i i there's one guy just says bored
other than that dude that happens uh on every every story we talk about though
um i've someone said this in twitch chat
and i've read this before online in some in the 80s or something they broke up at
t because it's too big yeah um and now
they're letting them merge and become bigger the idea back then and obviously
you and i were both well what what you were you i was not
alive okay luke didn't exist and i was like tiny in the 80s i was born in 87
but um back in the 80s before like everyone had the internet um
att ran a bunch of they provided um don't
completely quote me on this but i think what happened is they had both long distance and local um
telephone service and they just controlled so much of the
telephone market i know they were a huge deal in telephone back in the day yeah
they could just control so much the telephone market and what ended up happening is the us government broke up
their local operations into they call them the baby bells and these were
companies that were spun off as independent but they served like
different chunks geographical chunks of the us but that's a little bit different
because we're talking about the same things phone service this is a little
bit different because you have an isp buying the folks who own hbo right so
it's a little bit different att was divested in 1983 by the united
states government it had natural monopoly over the community telecommunication lines such as
television exactly and they were the only group basically that's right so
yeah so that's quite a bit different than it is now the baby bells were
stripped up into pieces like south south atlantic bell etc they've slowly
consolidated back into companies like att verizon yeah that's right when i was
a kid our local our local phone provider was belle south and they were one of the
x 18 t companies so interesting okay
all right well moving on from that just in case you're hashtag bored yeah and i
like that dude in chat was it was really funny because this happens right as the
net neutrality repeal yeah that was a thing so yeah
so hope hopefully there won't be fast lanes for game of thrones but i guess if
you're a game of thrones fanatic you'll be happy about that but the most pirated
show let's see how that goes for them um
apple tries to stop developers from sharing use data on their users friends
this immediately sounds like a good thing to me but i don't really know yet
uh it's posted by anova 5 on the forum
and the source we're going to use is bloomberg bloomberg how we feel so pro
when we use bloomberg as a source like because you turn on bloomberg tv
there's always financial stuff going on i didn't even know bloomberg tv was the
thing it just seems very pro you know anyway it has a cool name okay um
apple inc changed its app store rules last week to limit how developers use
information about iphone owners friends and other contacts quietly closing a
loophole that let app makers store and share data without many people's consent
yay good thing thank you apple for closing a said loophole i think that's
kind of the gist of it i'm gonna get this uh nice lady off the screen because
i don't know what she's actually talking about and we're gonna go back to here um
but yeah apparently many developers ask
users for access to their phones contacts only use it for marketing or
sometimes or sometimes share and sell the information all without permission from
the people listed in those digital address books that's the problem is that
your phone your address book those people's information
other companies running apps are able to take that and sell it
whereas that's supposed to maybe only be used for like sharing things or seeing
if you have other friends that are online you know how some games you can like
import your address book and then see if your friends are online well they might
sell that and that's bad i feel like this is a gdpr thing or it might be
like they may have done this responsible gdpr like i don't that's just me speculating
but it seems like the timing seems like that might be why
well i think because this sounds like something that will be absolutely not
allowed by the gdpr yeah where your data is getting used and you
have no idea what's going on with it i just think in this case both companies
might be at fault uh so i think apple's trying to close
their end but this is also a problem for app developers they would both be in
trouble or that law if apple for not like securing the data and passing it on
and then the app developers for using it without permission so so apple's
probably just taking care of that it needs to be taken care of um the new
app store review guidelines bar developers uh sorry the new app store
review guidelines bar developers from making databases of address book
information they gather from iphone users sharing and selling that database
with third parties is now forbidden probably should have been already but
whatever an app can't get a user's contact list say it's being used for one
thing and then use it again for something else unless the developer gets consent again obviously this can still
be abused but i think it's a vector for apple to rip you off the app store so if
they catch you doing this you'll get you'll get tossed right um anyone yeah
anyone caught breaking the rules may be banned this sounds like an extremely
easy rule to break and probably not that hard of a rule to get away with breaking
um but at least they have it written out now that they can give you the boot if
you do break it uh when users like like honestly yeah no it does this whole
thing reminds me the reason i'm laughing a little bit is of in Android p i think
they took away the ability for apps to use your camera and microphone in the
background which was cool but i was like what were they doing before yeah like
what were you gonna be like all the time before Android p
ah yeah uh when users install apps and then consent developers get dozens of
potential data points on people's friends contact lessons contain phone
numbers email addresses profile photos and tons of other stuff as you probably know so that database of information is
probably quite valuable so now what they'll probably have to do
is sell it to themselves as another company and then anonymize the data and
sell it that way so it'll add one more loop that they have to jump through for
apple to not be able to catch them so all right at least apple has cleaned
their hands uh but this will still remain an issue um just in case anyone was
wondering moving on i just sort of assumed that everyone on
the internet just knows everything about me yeah easier way to live yeah
yeah another rumor because this show again is
only about things that are confirmed 100 true uh rumor AMD Radeon rx 680 the
Radeon rx 680 will reportedly be powered by the navi GPU architecture um and will
feature eight gigabytes of gddr6
with the performance of the gtx 1080 or gtx 1080i or so an expected price range
of 300 to 400 bucks that's actually really good because looking at the
stories about what NVIDIA is going to be allegedly because like you said this
these are all 100 percent confirm facts in the show of the show but um yeah but
anyway um but seriously there was um everyone saying or a lot of people were
saying july 30th for um the um
what's the code name for the next um not volta but it's um oh twitch chat
preferably screaming at me with it right now i was writing about this earlier today and i've already forgotten it
NVIDIA roadmap what is your thing called
nope that's old just search that's hold
on i'll get it here hold on
twitch chat streaming at me right now i'm sure touring touring touring touring
like like oh yeah touring your amp here here was the one i had in my head so um
they're supposed to be releasing snorkel they're supposed to be releasing touring
at the end of july but it's just going to be the higher end
silicon to begin with as a tradition you know yeah so and the the rumor is that
the the high-end card will cost between 1000 and 1500 depending on how much vram
you get with it so something like this could be really appealing if you could
say oh well i don't have a thousand dollars but i can spend
350 bucks on something with 1080 like performance so yeah uh someone in chat
said please please please make this
square bracket anecdote poopy for mining
and great for gaming um
i doubt it eight gigs of gdr6
should probably be pretty smoking for mining um well i mean i i don't i don't know if
you can you know really make a card like that
you know what i mean because uh memory is super important for mining
oh no i know but my point is just more like if he's worried about price yes
looks like it will be affordable because obviously there's this huge artificial
inflation with the pricing um we'll have to see like immediately after this card
comes out a bunch of miners going to get their hands on of it on of it a bunch of
miners will get their hands on it we're both i feel like we're very slow today
it's been like a long week yeah it has been a long week um so
we'll see how it how it goes but looking at its price point looking at
its performance this could be a big card for mining but mining isn't all super
hype right now yeah uh so maybe it'll be okay things
changed quickly yeah like a couple months ago it was completely different story and also this is an interesting
side note andy will release a navi 20 on
seven nanometer as a high-end GPU in the 2020-2021 time frame oh boy so seven
nanometer GPU from AMD so keep your eyes on for that
they're smashing it man it's cool i'm happy for them
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done this is a new pack there you go oh my goodness perfect sriracha bacon in
case i prefer they're straight out you want
beef jerky they're both really good they are really they're both very very good
i've to be fair anyone who has the like bacon flavors i prefer the beef jerky
ones oh okay yeah yeah it's it's not a uh savage
jerky so what are your specific things so whether you like dead pig or dead cow
savage jerky will have something for you got you covered
especially if you want some jalapeno um
you guys know these guys as of now it's like the least surprising sponsor
spot ever yeah i mean savage jerky is to the wan
show as fresh books as to tech wiki by this point pretty much um
so that's a good thing
their jerk is made with great ingredients no nitrates no preservatives
they've got 13 different types of jerky 13 different flavors of jerky i
should say people seem to love the sriracha bacon i'm super not surprised that john
grabbed that one maple buffalo bacon is also super
popular they also make barbecue sauce hot sauce and spice rubs
they also have carolina reaper hot sauce which is the world's hottest pepper yes
it's not the world's hottest hot sauce so you can actually like eat it and it's fine
but it is made with the world's hottest pepper which is pretty insane they've even got
an awesome savage jerky gift tool bag that's really cool yeah
which includes four packs of jerky hot sauce herb blend or spice rub and it
makes an awesome gift i've never seen you want to bring up a picture of
it yeah give me a sec savage jerky tool bag
is pronouncing the ancient an urban canadian thing a lot of americans just
british thing i think canadians flip it back and forth interesting because herb
and herb both sound perfectly fine to me there we go because canadians are weird
the more you know here it is what the heck
that's a but you get a husky tool bag
a straight up husky tool bag is included okay i was expecting that was going to
be like kind of a fakeo part of it but it is not um you get four bags of jerky
one bottle of hot sauce one bottle of uh
herb herb blend or spice rub uh one
savage jerky uh koozie i've screwed that up before i
think it's all i totally called it a kazoo oh
but it's it's a koozie that's great and two savage jerky stickers that's
actually pretty cool and this isn't in my notes but
i always warn people when there's certain special dates coming up on my twitter
but i'll do a WAN Show warning here it's father's day on sunday
so if you need something and they can get it to you fast enough i don't know
what their shipping speed is but this might be a decent idea
um jumping back to other sponsors let's do
right and sorry savage jerky but the the link over here savage jerky.com use
offer code LTT save 10 uh so you can save money on the on the
tool bag if you want to get that or you can just buy some buy some bacon and
save money on it saving money on bacon is always a good thing
and moving on we have moss backpacks i love these bags and i do the same thing
every time because it just makes me super happy but all of their bags have
this really bright orange inside and it's lovely how well it shows up on
camera too because it's just awesome and it really proves my point it's extremely
easy to find stuff in here let's let's grab
mojo jalapeno it even has orange on it it's still going to be super easy to
find cross branding look it's right there look how easy that is it's a black
package in a bag that's often really really hard to find because most people
make their bags with uh with black inside it's like a small touch it makes
a big difference you know it really does i i i have a backpack that has an orange
inside and i will never ever go back it also has the like the air porter zippers
so you can lay your bag out like that
really easy so you can get through everything super wide open uh it's got
nice little like mesh things you have a bottle in there or some cards or
whatever it has a little card that explains how you can use it if you don't want to
listen to me um and i like this too
you guys aren't going to be able to see this very well but in the thin top
zipper you know how a lot of bags will have like the the small zipper at the
top this one right here if you open that up
the pocket inside is like a reinforced area it's not
i don't think it's plastic or anything and it's covered in like a felt-like
material i probably called it wrong i'm not very good at identifying materials
but it's a very soft type of material that's on top of some
formed cup like shape so if you put something in there that's relatively
fragile and you have big stuff in here
that whacks into it it'll be okay because the cup thing is going to keep
its shape and project protect whatever you put inside that's actually kind of
cool that's a good idea i haven't really seen that in a lot of bags before
we're showing off their other one as well if you want this is the black pack
if you want a different type of bag um
one thing that i really like about these guys too is they'll have uh on on
different bags they'll have um this guy can i pull this out
uh-huh it's a wall plug why do you need a wall plug for your backpack well it's
and it nicely tucks on the side of the bag as well so you don't even have to
open up your bag to get access you don't have to open up the main compartments of your bag to get access to it that wall
plug is for this this has a standard plugs you plug your
laptop or something into it it has two usb ports one of them is already plugged
in because the cable feeds through to the front of the case but you could unplug it put whatever you want in there
the cable that comes with it is actually nice it's reinforced with a spring so
that the cable isn't gonna like get damaged in your bag which makes
sense because it's gonna stay in your bag um i don't know i think that's
wonderful because you could just get home plug your bag into the wall and it
automatically charges everything that's in it just waiting around the airport you just want to charge all your stuff
at once boom done
someone tweeted me after the last moss backpack sponsorship um
talking about like oh that's just expecting trouble because someone's
going to plug it into the wall and walk away from it and it's going to get determined as a bomb
just don't don't walk away from here don't walk away from it like
most the plugs and airports the people designing these airports
generally know that people want to charge their stuff so most of the plugs
are near seats have a sit
do whatever you need to do if you want to go get some food or go to the washroom unplug take your backpack with
you like you normally would so that people don't think it's a bomb in an airport that's like they say over the
loudspeakers the whole time do not leave luggage unattended it is still luggage
despite having a plug that was what i was going to say like i'm pretty sure
they would treat it an unattended bag as suspicious even if there weren't a cable
sticking out of it yeah like it doesn't matter so yeah yeah so that has nothing
to do with anything great backpacks i love the plug feature
i love the orange i love the cup thing that they're doing uh but yeah uh check
it out at the link below if you are on
uh youtube or just check them out on kickstarter if you look moss backpacks
on kickstarter kickstarter interesting um
and should be good to go i think they're doing another campaign because these guys definitely have had laptops out
before i i personally know someone who has
bought them off of their website so i'm assuming it's a it's a
new thingy they're doing on on kickstarter uh
i'm assuming that's the black pack with their kickstarter rank anyways beyond
there we have ltx ltx expo if you want to come visit the team meet the team
meet me even though i'm not on the team that makes sense um come to ltx it's a
meetup an interactive tech event the interactive part here is important i
feel like it always takes away i feel like
we need to get like testimonials from people that go next time so we can play is it just an event about passive
absorption yeah things i feel like it takes a little bit away from it because
it's an event we're holding and i'm the one talking about it but ltx is
legitimately one of the coolest events i've been to i've only been to one because there's only been one uh but the
interactive part is super cool because you go to these conventions and when i
went to conventions when i was younger they were a little bit more grungy a little bit less planned out and there
was a little bit more uh hand-on action because like i remember
pax when i first went there they'd just be hucking prizes out of the booths
there'd be more hands-on stuff because uh it was a smaller con it was a smaller
con they weren't as worried about things then they started getting in trouble for
different stuff and they had to close it down we are keeping that in mind we don't
want to get in trouble for stuff but we're keeping all the booths interactive
so like one of the really cool things that's coming this year is how to delid
your CPU so you can bring a CPU and you'll have professional people showing
you how to delid it in person
where else can you get that i literally think nowhere
really cool every single booth is going to have some
type of interactive setup with it current booths include a
blind cable management competition brought to you by cablemod a d-litting
workshop so you can bring your cpus and we'll show you how to delete it case toss 2.0 hopefully you'll do better than
i did multi-headed vr a 20 pc lan
brought to you by ibuypower the 12k ultra wide gaming setup and tons tons
more i guarantee you there will be tons more uh there is already tons more i
don't know why it's not listed here probably because it'd be way too much to say there's also going to be food
music cool systems to look at more room more swag and more special guests than
last year there will be exclusive live unboxings just like last year and more
you can come hang out with us the tickets start at 35 canadian and you can
check them out through the link below or because you're watching on twitch
right now uh get or unless you're watching this later that's i said right
now and that's relative so if you're watching it at 5 49
uh pacific time uh
yeah on on friday then the link is just ltx
expo.com but if not link below it's only
2650 usd for our american viewers it's
nothing yeah it's not it's not that expensive
and it's a really fun convention i want people to go i want people to go because
i want to keep doing it because it's it's literally last year's was more fun
for me than last year's pax was and i've been going to pac since i was yeah the
last year's ltx was very enjoyable i agree 100 with that even like as an
attendee i'm going to be 100 honest here i didn't invite most of my like personal
friends to ltx last year because i was like it's probably just going to be a
fan meetup there's going to be a few things to do but it's probably mostly going to be a fan meetup and then i was
like holy crap i feel pretty bad because it was really fun and none of the none
of them came so i didn't invite them so wrecked um but they're invited this year
because it will be good uh moving back to normal news
whoop wrong screen i gotta stop beating that savage jerky man it's so good nope
keep going who cares okay uh it's your bag as far
as i'm concerned that's true you don't have to stop
uh let's move on
new iOS security feature has already been bypassed oh boy
this was posted by captain to fire on the forum and our source is the forum
but yeah iOS 12 introduces a new usb restricted mode that makes it harder for
law enforcement agencies to thwart iphone security usb restricted mode
requires that an iphone be unlocked with a passable with a passcode when
connected to a computer via usb if the device has not already been unlocked in
the last hour wow meaning phone hacking
and forensic tools shouldn't be able to unlock phones
in an email obtained by vice a forensic expert claims that grayshift has already
defeated apple's new usb restricted mode in a beta build usb restricted mode is
currently in beta testing and will launch the public soon according to
apple is this big like cat and mouse game
between apple and the government yeah and this is just the latest chapter
of that there was some um and there was some district attorney
down in louisiana who was saying that apple was literally
promoting criminal activity by doing this and i'm just sitting here like if
you want people to take you seriously and be on your side maybe don't say
things like that but regardless of how you feel about it
um this the fact has already been defeated
is a little bit humorous to me just because like i said there's this constant arms race between it's just
like apple and these um these law enforcement folks who
because the fbi has been lobbying for years and years to
try to force apple to have a back door into their products if they want to do
an investigation so yeah i think um
it could have something to do with the beta-ness of the build because they they beat it
on the beta possibly um and we have had security firms lie
about beating apple's security before eventually they've kind of figured it
out but they've lied in the early what do we know about gracious who knows
off the top of my head not a ton i've heard of them before um
gray shifts
ah they sell phone unlocking services
grayshift iphone unlocker
mysterious fifteen thousand dollar gray key promises to unlock iphone x for
whatever yeah they're they're a phone unlocking thing i've heard of them before i just
wasn't sure to be fair if it's that i'm starting to remember a
little bit more about them now if it's them they probably did it oh um
so wrecked i guess um
yeah oh well we'll see if it holds through with the beta but even if it doesn't
when you've got groups like grayshift constantly consistently going after your
stuff and making a profit on it in a government-sanctioned way you're
probably boned yeah you because you you have an
incentive especially everything's hackable right so like at some point
yeah that sucks um microsoft to help
walmart get rid of cashiers oh my microsoft is reportedly working on this
was posted by no one maybe uh but our sources are technical.com
microsoft is reportedly working on technology that removes the need for cashiers and checkout lines in stores
similar to amazon's technology already implemented in its amazon go brick and
mortar store so microsoft is essentially doing the
same thing as them the exact technology isn't explained but
it may be linked to the company's new connect
for azure project this project builds on connect's current
abilities and can be used to execute spatial mapping and motion tracking
while it's unclear how far along microsoft is in developing this
technology the company has reportedly shown sample tech to potential partners
and has even talked to walmart about implementing it directly uh amazon is
expected to open new go locations in chicago and san francisco soon microsoft
is making interesting moves this is a big deal to me because
because okay so amazon go they're putting the technology they have one
store in seattle they're playing two more okay
and they're gonna put in whole foods right i mean they're i mean they're not
as big as walmart but they're a big chain this to me is like microsoft
saying okay well i'll see your little dinky
operation at whole foods and i'll raise you walmart
you know so we're talking about like the biggest retailer in the us and
microsoft is trying to just it looks almost like because amazon's trying to
like own the full stack essentially
like they they want the store they want the technology in the store they want
everything and microsoft is like no we don't need everything we just want to
have this we'll see if they can do it because i think the challenge here is that microsoft's sort of cloud
processing processing capability it's not quite as big as amazon's as with aws
so we'll see how that works out for them yeah um that's quite interesting
we'll see though because microsoft buying github and making this move right
now is probably what the kind of stuff that
they need to do i don't know if it's best for consumer interest but if i'm
just thinking about this from a microsoft point of view this is the kind
of stuff that they need to do they were they were early with the whole Windows
thing they were early and on the ball with technology back then then they
tried for quite a while with different hardware stuff obviously xbox was quite
successful but outside of that Windows phone
okay zoom was amazing well the product may have been good but it just didn't
catch on the marketplace for two different things so zoon music software
was sweet and the zune itself was amazing it just didn't it didn't they
were just like the party they were just late to the party because by the time zoon like was like really
you know people started reviewing it positively like oh ipod was already a
thing so yeah yeah but yeah i wish i do
really wish um that zune kind of took
off but it didn't so i feel like everyone is pivoting their business a
little bit these days like it feels like every large firm is doing it to some
degree so it makes sense because a lot of the guys have been doing the same thing for a long time speaking of
microsoft steam is dropping Windows xp and vista support in 2019. uh this was
posted by sc2 mitch on the forum again we always have one from him uh it's they
they're starting on january 1st 2019 steam will officially stop supporting
the Windows xp and Windows vista operating systems to pay respects this
means that after that date the steam client will no longer run on those
versions of Windows
i suspect it's just not getting updates
they could lock out access to the steam they could because it's essentially a
browser i don't know what they're going to but they could so the newest features
in steam rely on an embedded version of google chrome which no longer functions
on older versions of Windows yeah so i don't think you'll get updates
for the remainder of 2018 steam will continue to run and launch on Windows xp
and Windows vista but other functionality in steam will be somewhat limited
new features such as the steam chat will
not be available i don't know if people running those
systems will care so we'll see gmail
can remind you to reply that's actually super cool as part of its new design
gmail has started resurfacing old unanswered emails with a suggestion that
you should reply by bumping the email uh thread to the top of your inbox gmail
also breaks the chronological order of your inbox which is kind of poo but you
can probably disable this gmail lets you disable all smart features
the very next note some users don't want smart categories
important emails first and smart reply suggestions
you can tick off the boxes suggest emails to reply to and suggest emails to
follow up on if you don't want to see this orange text ever again i do want to
see it personally so i'm going to leave that there this is me spitballing um i'm
but i'm guessing they probably integrated like the um the priority
feature you know like where it marks certain things so they use important
because yeah because because you would hate you would hate you know
for it to tell you to reply to an email hey walmart.com sale you know say 50 on
paper towels you know and you wouldn't get nags to reply to that but
yeah so some someone in chat said steam did a hardware survey a while back they
probably saw it wasn't worthwhile to continue support yeah i recently checked
it out because i was i was uh having a bad day and i was really frustrated with
the fact that my uh stream deck
from elgato didn't work on Windows 8.1 and it would like it hurts my brain that
that doesn't work and it's so confusing because it's actually a pretty sweet
piece of tech and like alternatives that actually do
all of the same things uh are way more expensive in in most
cases and alternatives that do almost the same
thing well they don't they don't do quite the same thing like they'll do this um yeah
and it's not even that i need it i don't i could just use a midi
controller but i like it's cool it's nice and small
the buttons are all framed you can change what this shows on the screen it's a really cool device and it only
works on Windows 10 doesn't make any freaking sense to me and what drove me
nuts was because people
have hacked it and forced it to work on other operating systems by shaking by
just all they did in the one case was they took out the check that checks if
you're on Windows 10 and it just works
it doesn't work anymore they they updated it and now it doesn't work but
it did for a little while and i can't find what's the rationale to stop it
from working on Windows a1 i haven't got what i think of as a
satisfactory answer um i'm sure there's something what they've
been saying is it's just too much to support but what drove me nuts about
that was that just taking the flag out made it work but then
technically they have updated it since then and it doesn't work anymore i doubt
they forced that guy's hack to not work so they probably just used something
that doesn't work on previous versions of Windows and now it doesn't work it's
just the thing that drives me nuts is i
looked into the steam hardware survey and all the people not using
Windows 10 is a pretty huge market share
and i can't imagine that it wouldn't be worth the dev work to
have that available market share now something that they may have done in
terms of market research is looking at well the people that aren't using
Windows 10 are they willing to buy it maybe they're not using Windows 10
because they don't have the money to have a newer computer that's possible
i don't see the merit in that but that could be what elgato is seeing i i
wonder if it has to do anything with just some sort of cya kind of security thing where they're
just saying oh well it's an older version of Windows it's just kind of
less secure by default and we don't want to be blamed if something goes wrong
with our product because they're running like an old version of Windows it could be as simple as that so who knows
yeah um someone said it was free to upgrade yeah but some people with like
i'm talking yeah some people no that's a good point
i don't know i don't know what their reasoning is uh
i i i can't understand it doesn't make any sense to me but anyways i was
looking up steam hardware surveys to try to justify my rage because i really
really really want this thing to work but i cannot use Windows 10 because i
will rip my eyes out um so
anyways i can't use the freaking stream deck because i can't find the executable
for the version that works uh with just the flag taken away i i can
find i can github download the like hack
that removes the flag that's fine i can't find the executable for the
installer that works that way and i don't care about whatever new updates
they have it doesn't matter to me at all um
so yeah anyways that's why i've seen yeah there's basically no one running xp and
vista on steam anymore moral of the story there we go because i
looked at the steam hardware surveys and yeah it's a pretty small percentage
someone in chat said Windows 10 is 55.5 percent Windows 7 is 33.57
Windows 8.1 is only 4.07
yeah that's fine my thing is if they make it work for Windows 7 which is
33.6 essentially percent of the
audience which is a huge percentage uh
it will work for 8.1 it will
it's or it'll be one of those situations where we can just remove the flag of
them saying that it won't work for 8.1 and it'll install just fine i'm not
trying to say that everyone uses Windows 8.1 i realize i'm in a very small
category there but Windows 7 is huge and i want to lean on that to be
able to get support for older versions of Windows that will essentially include
Windows 8.1 yeah because 7 to 8.1 compatibility is like very good
um going two more is a little bit more of a stretch though so
yeah yep yep anyways that's it for the WAN Show
oh is that it yeah i think so there's no other topics super smash brothers is
going to have 65 characters for switch is that not in here
i'm looking right at it why did i not see it what other news did i miss that's
basically it though okay yeah i must have just scrolled right over it yeah
it's a bajillion characters i think they said
every everyone who's ever fought in a smash game is in this game okay
is it true though because i saw people talking about
waluigi was waluigi ever in a smash game
i don't know maybe it's a trophy i don't know if you could actually select him to
fight though i forget
whoa motherboardvice.com
has a counterpoint f waluigi he doesn't
deserve to be in the new smash bros that's a little aggressive guys
now he's kind of an irritating character i think he might have a point oh my goodness
it's uh yeah so everyone
that's in super smash bros ultimate except for waluigi essentially while
luigi missing from super smash bros ultimate
i don't care someone might care
maybe he was left out intentionally maybe
maybe he'll be dlc could you imagine
i could just imagine the storm that would happen if they had like the
waluigi dlc yeah that would be really funny this would be great yeah cost 60
bucks for one character uh so there there is a new uh score
counter that pops up during one-on-one fights when anybody is ko'd uh each
fighter has gotten some kind of graphical tweak to some degree which
makes sense there's two new playable characters ridley the alien pterodactyl
boss from the metroid series and inklings the squid kids from splatoon
they were already in mario kart yeah they just added them to
smash now so i don't know if uh yeah anyways uh fighters must now choose
their battleground stage before picking a character that's different
it's always the other way around right yeah that's weird that actually makes sense it says due to professional
players favoring certain stages for certain characters yeah okay that makes
sense uh a picture in picture preview window when
any combatant uh when any yeah when any combatant is launched off the screen
that also makes sense to me um but yeah apparently it will launch on
nintendo switch on december 7 2018.
cool just in time for christmas sounds like i'll be getting yet another game
for my switch on december 7th 2018. they should have released it on black friday
just to see the meltdown oh god i'm really happy they did it just
like just like the parking lot but whoopings yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i
would love to see that hyrule fight club 24 7. pretty much hyrule castle is the
is the is the only map for me boy um
but uh yeah anyways that's actually it for wancho
that was probably loud sorry headphones jesus and we'll see you next week when
your ears stop bleeding