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In an unprecedented move from Sony, the PS5 family just got the biggest price

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increase that a console has ever seen. Yet another blow against affordable

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gaming. But I think we can help. First,

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by shining a spotlight on the healthy market for secondhand PS5s. There are

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tens of millions of these consoles out there now. And because of that, there

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are deals to be had. Also, I believe that despite Sony's move, that may

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remain true throughout the rest of this console generation. More on that later,

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though, because second, there are hundreds of millions of PCs out there.

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And with a little bit of scrapyard spirit, I think that even in the current

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climate, we can beat the performance of the PS5 at its new price. But there will

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be some obstacles. And the first is, of course, RAM. While I do believe that the

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worst may be behind us, memory pricing remains high. thanks to the insatiable

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needs of AI data centers. But what a lot of folks might not realize is that not

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all RAM has been affected equally. DDR4 is very much still in play, especially

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less desirable kits, and CPUs as

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recently as just one platform ago can still support it. Which is why we're

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starting our build with an Intel Core i5 12400F. Just $83 for this little fella.

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And like the rest of the deals that we're going to highlight, getting one

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for this price shouldn't be a major challenge anywhere with a healthy

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marketplace community. This seems to be mainly for two reasons. One is that

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Intel has lost a lot of their sex appeal for gamers over the last 5 years, which

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has lowered demand on the secondary market for their chips. And the second

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is that in spite of the lower sex appeal, Intel quietly still kind of

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dominates the CPU market by volume. So, there are a lot of these things out

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there with suppressed demand. Okay. Yeah, it has two fewer cores than an AMD

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price equivalent, or even the PS5 for that matter, but the 12400F's more

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modern architecture and maximum turbo speed of 4.4 GHz should more than even

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out the score. With that said, nothing in life is free and a little bit of that

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sweet sweet savings gets offset by the generally higher price for Intel

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motherboards is what I would say if we were buying a new motherboard. But we're

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not. And while we're at it, I got another tech tip for you. Over the last

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few generations, budget chipset motherboards have quietly GONE FROM NO

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GOD NO GOD NO ALL THE WAY to oh yeah,

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those are kind of okay compromises. Like on this ASUS Prime H610M MATX

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motherboard, it can be found for less than $50. And not only does it support

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our 12th gen CPU, it can even take a 14th gen upgrade down the line. Also,

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while it wasn't the case for a while, Intel's low-end chipsets even support

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XMPP now, so you can get the most out of nonJeck memory kits like this 3200 mega

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transfer per second 16 gig kit of Corsair Vengeance LPX that we got for

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about $60. Now, that speed not actually

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ideal for peak performance, but the huge jump in price for 3600 megat transfer

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per second made this decision a pretty easy one. Just like it was easy to

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linked down below. Aside from RAM, the other tough one right now is SSD prices.

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And unfortunately, looking at kind of the timing of the RAM apocalypse and

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potential recovery, this one might take a bit longer to settle down. We had to

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pay about $100 for a one TBTE DRAM

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cashless model that in my opinion isn't worth more than about 50. Thankfully, we

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did find some outlier deals for quite a bit less than what we paid. So, if

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you're patient, there are still bargains to be had. And worst case scenario,

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guys, storage is one of the easiest things to upgrade or expand down the

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road thanks to, again, entry-level motherboards not being total dog

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anymore. Look at that, two M.2 slots. It is worth noting we could have saved a

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buck either by buying a SATA SSD or a

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smaller SSD along with a larger hard drive. And if I was configuring the

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system for a friend, I would actually strongly consider that route. But if

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we're comparing to the PlayStation 5, a shortcut like that feels kind of unfair.

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battle worn and sure it's a thermal take with a few missing parts, but when the

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comparison is the PS5, honestly, I think the Versus 17 comes out looking pretty

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good. Oh, sorry, Sony. And we pinched our pennies equally hard for our cooler,

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though, you might not have to. The 12400F does technically include one in

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the box. It's just that most of the ones that we saw secondhand didn't have the

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box anymore. The good news though is these can be had for around five bucks.

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And for not many more buckaroos, you can get a 500 W power supply like this

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Thermaltake Smart 500. It's not an amazing power supply, but it should get

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buying secondhand hardware. It appears that the housing around the USB3 header

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on our motherboard is uh gone. The good news is the pins are all in there and

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they're all straight and we would be able to tell which way this goes on

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without the key because one of these holes is supposed to be blocked. Except

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whoever had this before must have plugged it in backwards and they pierced

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the one that's supposed to be empty. So, I'm actually not sure.

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>> Here's a tech tip. Don't do that. Thanks, David. That's helpful. With all

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that done, it's time for the cherry on top, the GPU. Now, this was a tough one

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to lock in because my initial thought was Intel B580 and we're done. But after

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crunching the numbers and looking at the very sparse availability of used Intel

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GPUs, I realized we could do better. We don't have to do better to match a PS5.

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it turns out, GPUs are one area where

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pricing has been on the mend for a little while now. And we can do better.

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NVIDIA's 3000 series now sits in kind of

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a sweet spot. It's new enough to still support most of Team Green's most

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appealing features, but old enough that most AI bros just plain aren't that

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interested in them, which is good for us because the RTX 3070 is a whole lot of

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gaming goodness for just $215.

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which actually leaves us enough budget that we could get a Gamester Cyclone 2

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that's brand new, which is one of my favorite controllers, or a used Dual

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I'd never press the power button, but hey, uh that's what I love about

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sometimes budget power supplies and motherboards. They just kind of you

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provide power to them and they're like, I'm going, you know what? I'm going to

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go big picture, too, for the more consolelike experience.

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>> Okay, here we go. Dude, this looks freaking awesome. >> Yeah, I mean, both look really, really

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good. Go to where Ragnarok is a really nice looking game. >> Okay, I want to start kind of poking at

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fur. You know what? My fur is better. >> Yep. DLSS, baby.

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>> Ooh, this is some yucky flickering back here. >> Interesting.

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>> And that's probably one of the most distracting visual artifacts to me.

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>> Yep. don't know exactly what it is, but your HDR is a little more HDR.

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display. It gives me a little wizard and then I configure it and then I get the

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most out of my display. >> Yeah. And to be clear, I can do that,

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but I was not at any stage prompted to do it. So, let's get out of this cut

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scene and then I'm going to configure it and see if I can close that gap a little

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bit. >> Just the way it's reflecting off of the

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metal on his shoulders. Yeah, that looks way more washed out than mine.

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>> Yeah, >> slightly. Oh, you're having some flickering in the background, too. Oh,

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it's gone now. >> I think that's the wind. >> No, there was like a light.

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>> Oh, I caught something there. >> Yeah, that. So, there's a weird I think

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LOD thing where we're pushing the VRAM so hard. We got 8 gigs of VRAM. We're at

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that it has trouble with the textures. Interesting. >> So, we could probably switch uh one of

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our settings. >> Yeah, >> but that's PC gaming for you. You got to do a little bit of tweaking. get the

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most out of it. >> Ultra screen calibration. Let's go.

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>> Let's go. >> Enable HDR. Oh, I don't even have it on.

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>> Well, there's the problem. Now I've got HDR on. This should be better. That

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still looks way better. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. No question. >> Windows HDR. Man, I figure it out.

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>> HDR display calibration. Here we go. Get I have to download it. Ah,

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it's not as good still. It's quite a bit better. >> Yeah, >> my performance is dropping a little bit

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more in these more complex environments. You're still pretty much above 60 other

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than a few drops. >> Yep. >> And with VRR, it's like this would be

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acceptable game performance for me. >> Absolutely. No question. Let's try

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another game. >> We'll do Returnal. >> Yeah, let's let's do Returnal.

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something to watch out for is even if the HDR experience is perfect on PC, not

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all games that support HDR on a console necessarily support it on PC.

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>> Wow, yours looks so much better. Holy crap.

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>> Wa! Holy sniky. >> Yeah, this is not close, brother.

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>> Not close. Smackdown. Holy crap. >> Are you running at a 60 or a 30 FPS?

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>> This is a 60. At 60. >> At 60. Cuz I'm definitely falling well

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below 60. Uh graphics. Okay. So, oh man,

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definitely am still sharper.

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>> Yeah, >> but it doesn't look like super betterer

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anymore in my opinion. But now I'm actually in more complex environments

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>> Even then it isn't 60 though. >> No, you're dropping down to around 40.

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>> Yeah, my HDR looks really good. >> Yeah, that I I think your HDR actually

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looks better than mine right now. >> With that said, you wouldn't normally be sitting this close.

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an issue. But that's the point of pixel peeping is to get in here and really

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judge it. >> Okay, let's do our next one. >> Let's do it. Let's start the game at the

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same time. >> Yeah. Uh, Death Stranding. >> Death. >> 3 2 1.

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>> Oh crap. >> That's okay. I'm like a fraction of a

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second behind. >> You're going to end up probably 30 seconds behind me.

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close. >> My performance is not

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>> Let's uh dial you in a little bit. >> Can you uh pan a bit? I mean, that's not

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60 FPS either. I'm going to go medium. I'm going to turn off motion blur.

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not a thing. Are we going full speed pan?

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>> I think I'm above you now. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You've got motion blur to kind of

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mask it, but I at medium am now above 60

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FPS even in my image. >> Once again, noticeably sharper on the PS5. >> You know what though? Hold on a second.

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>> So, very near. I think I'm on par.

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>> Yep. >> In the distance. I think I've had to I

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think I've had to cut too much. >> Let me have a look. Maybe that's

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something I can tune though. >> Okay, here. Can we just go to the top of here? Right where you are. I want to see

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the terrain quality again. Can you turn back this way? Yeah. >> Okay, we're close now.

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>> We're close. I think I'm basically on par now. Okay. What about our main character? Oh, mine's better.

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>> Oh, substantially. Look at that hair. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Would you say that we've killed

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performance for less. But Mark Cerny

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would surely point out again that secondhand hardware is a pretty big

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advantage. And as we pointed out earlier, secondhand PS5s and even brand

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new PS5s are not selling at that new

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retail price, which kind of raises an interesting question. Is this a real

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price increase? >> I think it's hard to know until we've done a full year cycle, but I could

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imagine that they're raising the price so that they can do big discounts and

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get people to rush out and buy PS5s for games when they want them to. But it

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might also be something else. My theory too is that they could be testing the

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market, doing what you're talking about, going, "Okay, here's our MSRP, but

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here's our discount for the holiday," >> and then using that to take the

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temperature of the market to maybe establish what will be the non-disounted

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new MSRP of the PS6. That way, no one

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they can continue to sell PS5s at a normal price. Are they playing 4D chess?

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either because they've probably booked the fab time for the PS5 or PS6's SoC.

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at that time anymore because the RAM is so expensive. The SSDs are so expensive.

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So, I don't think they are sure what they're going to do. >> All right, changing gears. Do you think

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we could have gone DDR5? >> If we kept mostly the same system, but

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just changed the motherboard to one that does DDR5 and the RAM to DDR5, it adds

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about 150 bucks. That's too much. >> It breaks the budget. You could

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downgrade your CPU, but then it's just a different system. It's not as good. I

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think this is the better option right now. >> At least

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DDR5 has maybe started to start to come

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down. So maybe in another 6 months, 12 months, we'll be having a totally

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different conversation, but for now, this is pretty good. What about some of

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the other aspects of PC versus PlayStation 5? I know that this is sort

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of a passionate conversation topic for you, but people often talk about how

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game pricing is so much better on PC thanks to Steam summer sales, but you

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often bring up, okay, well, when was the last time that you paid full MSRP for a

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game on the PlayStation store? >> Yeah, there's pretty similar sales for

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pretty similar games on PlayStation. I think there's kind of a threshold that

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we've kind of figured out to go for the sales to get those games that are 3 to

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four years old sold. I do worry right now about the Sony ecosystem because

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they had on their investor call. They know that they're going to have trouble

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getting more audience. So, they're going to try and extract more out of their current audience. So, what does that

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mean? Higher game prices, new hardware. I don't know. But I don't like that.

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>> Locking exclusives back down again. That's a big thing, too, is it was a

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really nice couple of years that it was almost a sure bet that Sony games were

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going to come on PC, but they've said that they don't want to do that because

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they know that that's how they sell more PS5 hardware is they make exclusives

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>> or they make great value hardware even at the new price. I hate to say this,

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it's still really competitive. >> And if you're willing to buy used or

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open box, you can get really good deals. I literally bought a PS5, the 30th

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anniversary one for uh $380

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US. So, it's a special edition, open box, and it's still out there. You just

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got to look. Or not. I mean, there's a

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lot of good news here today. And I'm glad to report that building a sweet

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budget PC rig is still possible if you channel a little bit of your inner

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scrapyard warrior. Even if that means you won't have the latest and greatest

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and flashiest features, this system is a great reminder that there are tens of

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thousands of games out there that we can enjoy without buying into the latest

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hype and a good reminder that games were

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good before generationally locked optimization and they will be after as

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well. Personally, I'm really looking forward to Alabaster John from Radical

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Fish >> and I'm really excited about the new Castlevania game. Yeah, I don't think

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we're going to need anything more than this PC or a secondhand PlayStation 5 in

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order to enjoy those. >> Exactly. Right. >> You know what else I'm looking forward to? >> Telling these fine folks about our

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>> Yeah. So, that's my guy. He starts every one of my videos with a tech tip.

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>> Fascinating. Just a little tip. >> Just a little tip. It warms people up

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for my message. >> Right. Which is >> that ODO's got every app you need to run

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your business in one userfriendly and customizable platform. >> And that's good news for everyone.

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>> Mhm. Mhm. But not everyone. >> Mhm. Mhm. Well, the uh business app

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council would disagree. No. Who? The

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group that wants you to pay for a bunch of different app subscriptions instead.

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They often chase after and try to stop you. I believe they did actually catch

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you at one point. Oh, those guys. Oh,

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yeah. No, that's just like a fun game we play. I think they are trying to hurt

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you. >> Nah, we're buddies. There he is. >> I think they want to play right now.

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do is the allin-one solution for your

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business issues cuz it's got all the apps you'll need. Now we're talking

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invoicing, inventory, CRM, and every other thing. And this link is for free

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15 trial. It's so much fun playing with my friends.

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If you guys enjoyed this video, you might like other videos where we build PCs for a fixed budget. Why not check

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out our recent $1,000 build? Sadly, it's

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not as much performance as we should be getting. Thank you, Sam Alman. But it's

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still not a bad little rig.