WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:07.359 ah talk late 00:00:04.560 --> 00:00:12.080 talk link is alive what are we i i've been on one of these you've already been 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:14.080 on one but that was back in 2020 i think 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:17.600 was that 2020 or was that like before then because like what was that about oh 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:22.320 you were probably on in 2019. it's been a while but now we have this wonderful 00:00:19.680 --> 00:00:25.439 podcast set yeah and so we might as well i thought we might as well get in here 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:30.320 and start talking about tech news baby we're here on tackling to 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:35.600 talk about a number of different rumors and and information that has come out uh 00:00:32.800 --> 00:00:39.440 concerning NVIDIA's next gen rtx 40 series cards 00:00:37.040 --> 00:00:42.320 and uh most of the information is coming from a leaker on twitter 00:00:41.440 --> 00:00:49.840 called copite7 kimmy it could be kopite copitay um they are 00:00:47.680 --> 00:00:54.800 known for providing pretty accurate information uh they protect uh correctly 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:57.520 predicted the specs i believe of the rtx 3090 00:00:56.160 --> 00:01:00.399 and they've kind of like telegraphed some launches in the past 00:00:59.199 --> 00:01:05.680 but uh the the tweet in question 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:11.760 is this tweet that uh they've posted was it when was it yesterday 00:01:08.320 --> 00:01:14.560 uh yeah may 16th here i'll show you 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:19.360 with our fancy new setup look at that 00:01:16.320 --> 00:01:24.400 mid july mid july were you you're the 00:01:19.360 --> 00:01:26.320 video guard card guy here at LMG LTT 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:31.439 that's how i say it every time uh were you expecting NVIDIA to launch the rtx 00:01:29.759 --> 00:01:35.520 40 series this early well i and it's a rumor we don't know 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:39.200 that they're doing it but it is a rumor however it 00:01:36.880 --> 00:01:43.520 honestly at first no but then 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:47.920 Intel's arc kind of got delayed to q2 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:52.799 and i think NVIDIA's like hey we can probably we can probably push it ahead 00:01:50.880 --> 00:01:58.000 so that we can get out ahead of that is that the reason you think i don't 00:01:54.240 --> 00:01:59.520 think so because because because Intel 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:03.119 they're i don't know what they're doing with their with their whole launch yeah 00:02:01.119 --> 00:02:07.119 it's very confusing because it's already out in korea and laptops right so 00:02:05.520 --> 00:02:10.879 they're just going to come out at mobile and then there's going to be like system 00:02:08.959 --> 00:02:15.200 integrators for desktops that are going to get cards technically there are 00:02:12.239 --> 00:02:19.120 already also cards available yeah it doesn't make any sense but apparently 00:02:16.959 --> 00:02:23.760 the dedicated gpus like the a3 through a7 series 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:27.840 um are supposedly going to come out in china at the end of q 2 which is 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:31.599 interesting that they're launching first in china and then giving it to the rest 00:02:29.760 --> 00:02:36.720 of us well apparently there's a reason for launching it first in china and 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:38.480 that's because it's where all of the um 00:02:36.720 --> 00:02:42.720 like the board level component right manufacturers are it can be a bit of 00:02:40.720 --> 00:02:48.080 like a beta program as well as being um i guess a low-cost 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:52.800 way of like feeling what the market is going to 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:58.160 actually want they say that china has a very hungry appetite for 00:02:55.519 --> 00:03:01.920 entry-level graphics cards right now and that's kind of the the target that 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:06.720 they're going for with the first gpus that are launching yeah they're not 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:11.120 going for a high-end thing uh i think what we're looking at is like i think 30 00:03:08.720 --> 00:03:17.120 70 is about the ballpark where the top-end graphics card is gonna hit let's 00:03:13.519 --> 00:03:19.440 go back to 40 or rtx 4090 specs four 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:24.959 thousand and ninety because a big part of why people are like hyped about these 00:03:21.760 --> 00:03:26.080 rumors is is that this uh kopite kopite 00:03:24.959 --> 00:03:33.280 person uh indicated that the performance of the 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:35.440 rtx 4090 might be double that of the 30 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:38.959 90. that seems crazy to me off the top of the like i i don't really believe 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:44.000 that looking at the specs alone so the 39 you've got a little graph here that i'm 00:03:42.239 --> 00:03:48.080 looking at do you want to show it i mean sure why not it's just in our notes 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:53.280 you've got a little graph here for the 40 90 and 3090 ti i guess this 00:03:50.640 --> 00:03:57.840 is taken from yeah video cards oh no this is from pc gamer but from 00:03:55.440 --> 00:04:00.720 this this graph yep oh but it's like a piece of gamer article about the same 00:03:59.200 --> 00:04:04.159 thing yeah well i mean it's usually second source stuff yeah 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:06.879 uh no shade thrown NVIDIA cards but they do usually just report on stuff you 00:04:05.760 --> 00:04:10.959 report on just like we're doing right now hey hey like just looking at these 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:15.920 specs like i don't obviously i don't know what the clock speeds are 00:04:12.720 --> 00:04:18.880 um but for the same TDP with higher core 00:04:15.920 --> 00:04:22.000 count because the rtx 3090 doesn't have or sorry the yeah the 3090 ti doesn't 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:26.400 have that much more cuda cores than the 3090 00:04:24.880 --> 00:04:32.400 does that's why it was like kind of an iffy upgrade yeah 10 496 for the rtx 00:04:29.280 --> 00:04:33.840 3090 versus 10 752 for the 30 90 ti 00:04:32.400 --> 00:04:38.000 right that's a that's a little bump that's a this is a very small bump the 00:04:35.520 --> 00:04:42.320 the most bump comes from the clock speed increase 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:46.720 uh plus i think the gddr6x is a little bit faster 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:49.600 right so with that in mind unless they're doing some significant 00:04:48.080 --> 00:04:53.919 architectural changes under the hood which i do believe they have been 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:56.320 rumored to do yes we can talk about that um 00:04:54.960 --> 00:05:01.360 i don't see how they're going to get like double the performance there were 00:04:58.400 --> 00:05:04.160 some rumors and and uh news articles and stuff written in the past few weeks 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:10.400 about uh love lace as an architecture and how 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:11.840 originally here's a pc gamer article 00:05:10.400 --> 00:05:19.199 from uh 18 days ago NVIDIA's next gen GPU ada lovelace is no 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:21.440 longer a simple ampere refresh uh rumors 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:24.560 suggest so i guess originally NVIDIA was kind of sitting on their laurels and 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:30.400 they're just like hey things are going fine we have no problem selling gpus 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:32.240 right now yeah like an rtx 2000 series 00:05:30.400 --> 00:05:36.000 kind of approach where it's like yeah we don't need to push the 00:05:33.440 --> 00:05:39.199 performance really right you know give it something new and up the price and 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:43.600 people will buy it because why not and then the 2000 series kind of flopped because the demand for the crypto at the 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:51.520 time crashed at around the same time they had like a hundred thousand grt gtx 10 00:05:48.479 --> 00:05:52.720 series gpus they couldn't sell oh yeah 00:05:51.520 --> 00:05:58.000 so it was actually i forgot about the big deal yeah um and i'm wondering if 00:05:56.400 --> 00:06:02.800 it's going to be kind of the same thing right so i'm wondering if like the 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:06.960 original plan was okay so we're riding high on this wave right now 00:06:04.880 --> 00:06:12.000 let's be a little bit conservative about what we release next gen so we don't 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:17.680 have to you know worry about catching up or scrambling to recoup our losses once 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:21.919 you know this demand ceases which by all accounts it seems to have right i 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:25.919 mean i've i got another link here uh talking about 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:28.960 how the crypto crash that is currently underway i thought that was interesting 00:06:27.840 --> 00:06:34.560 you mentioned that that happened with the 10 series because i forgot i mean i haven't really 00:06:32.080 --> 00:06:37.840 paid super close attention to the crypto market uh 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:42.960 yeah i'm not a crypto bro right but there is a uh there are people on reddit 00:06:39.919 --> 00:06:44.319 hardware the the subreddit who are 00:06:42.960 --> 00:06:47.919 paying attention to this stuff and like on reddit in general yeah they seem to 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:52.800 think that crypt because of this crypto crash combined with the fact that 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:56.240 GPU mining for cryptocurrency is on the decline ethereum has said they're going 00:06:54.880 --> 00:06:59.919 to switch to to proof of stake for a long time yeah 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:04.960 but uh uh you know it's going to happen at some 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:08.800 point i'm assuming maybe maybe this person says that they have been through 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:13.199 several crypto crashes and we're entering one now and they're saying 00:07:10.479 --> 00:07:16.800 prepare yourself for a glut of gpus to enter the market oh absolutely at the 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:21.280 same oh you think that's happening i even though you're like you know 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:26.400 people are still gonna mine well i'm seeing people bailing 00:07:23.440 --> 00:07:29.440 if people bail too hard then it'll crash even harder and more people will bail 00:07:28.080 --> 00:07:33.680 and it'll just keep rolling into a giant snowball 00:07:32.080 --> 00:07:37.840 down the hill kind of like kind of that that situation and crush the town crush 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:43.039 the town crush bitcoin city at the base of the ball volcano right now 00:07:43.039 --> 00:07:49.360 so what the the upshot of all of this is that 00:07:47.280 --> 00:07:54.560 the used graphics card market is going to start to have a flood of current 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:57.759 generation gpus come out at basically 00:07:56.720 --> 00:08:02.960 uh seriously different price because they'll be used because they're used 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:07.680 with that in mind i think that NVIDIA's like oh crap we can't 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:10.319 we can't actually just do another rtx 20 series because our investors are just 00:08:08.960 --> 00:08:14.720 going to eat us they'll eat us alive right and by do another rtx 20 series 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:18.560 you mean just kind of like have a little spec bump like little performance 00:08:16.479 --> 00:08:22.160 bump not really huge very minor performance bump with a new feature or 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:26.080 something and charged like a generator like a like a performance tier above for 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:31.199 the same performance tier as last generation kind of thing so like the rtx 00:08:28.479 --> 00:08:35.839 2080 ti was basically like a uh or sorry the 2080 was basically like a 1080 ti 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:40.240 but it was priced like a 1080 ti so oh with the 1080p when the 1080pi was 00:08:38.959 --> 00:08:43.839 starting to be discounted because the new series was out people were buying 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:47.360 1080ti right because they're like it's still a great GPU yeah yeah i remember 00:08:45.920 --> 00:08:52.160 that yeah so they want to avoid that kind of situation again i don't think they 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:56.560 expected the crypto crash to happen quite so precipitously 00:08:54.160 --> 00:09:01.279 um but i think that made them perhaps accelerate their plans to get it out the 00:08:58.959 --> 00:09:06.240 door so now we're going to kind of take a step back 00:09:02.560 --> 00:09:08.160 as a market to the time when these video 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:11.519 cards released but pretend that they were all actually available and you can 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:14.880 get the card that you want yeah now NVIDIA's like okay wait wait don't buy 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:17.760 those cards we have better ones you don't want those now 00:09:17.760 --> 00:09:24.560 yeah so i think probably what it was going to be initially was going to be a refresh 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:27.760 thinking that the crypto um thing was going to continue for a little 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:30.880 bit longer or at least not crash as hard as it is 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:37.680 but with the writing on the wall i think that accelerated their plans for the next generation of gpus which is why the 00:09:34.640 --> 00:09:39.680 rtx 3090 came out of nowhere 00:09:37.680 --> 00:09:43.920 all right sorry not rtx 3090 ti yeah yeah out of nowhere with specs nobody 00:09:41.680 --> 00:09:47.760 was asking for because it's actually been 00:09:44.880 --> 00:09:51.920 speculated that the 3090 ti was a trial run 00:09:48.640 --> 00:09:55.120 for the rtx 40 series oh and in what way 00:09:51.920 --> 00:09:57.200 um it seems to be the same board design 00:09:55.120 --> 00:10:01.120 as the 3090 ti there's additional power delivery that's 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:06.560 not necessary for the 3090 ti but is necessary for the 40 90. so oh 00:10:04.959 --> 00:10:09.920 and how do you know that it's necessary did you look at those uh 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:14.640 heatsink leaks or what are you basing this on well that's that's just that's what i've been reading okay those are 00:10:12.800 --> 00:10:18.079 the the leaks that i've or the leaks or the the analysis of the leaks that i've 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:22.640 read so like people looking at the leaked pcb design or cooler like 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:28.160 heatsink design because we did get um just 00:10:24.800 --> 00:10:30.959 today actually there's a article about 00:10:28.160 --> 00:10:34.880 the leaked 4090 ti graphics card cooler 00:10:32.640 --> 00:10:38.240 uh i mean it's a it's an alleged thing so we don't know if that's actually uh 00:10:36.640 --> 00:10:42.800 what we're looking at but um on chip on the chip hell forums which 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:47.200 is like a chinese enthusiast pc site yeah uh we got pictures but the big 00:10:45.839 --> 00:10:51.200 takeaway that i saw people talking about here is the fact that 00:10:48.959 --> 00:10:54.880 um the base plate here it looks like it's supposed to cover both the GPU and 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:58.480 the memory dies which is not what they normally do is 00:10:56.959 --> 00:11:02.800 that is that true or what do you think usually what happens with the uh the 00:11:00.800 --> 00:11:08.720 cold like the cold plate itself is usually just for the GPU at least on 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:12.800 these reference designs oops i hit the at least on these reference designs it's 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:16.800 usually only supposed to cover the GPU okay there are code like 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:21.120 uh aftermarket coolers especially water coolers that will expand it out so in 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:24.399 this case it could be that they're trying to push the g6x which is what 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:29.440 they call it and they'll call it that because college saying gddr6x is i would 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:32.800 much rather say g6x yes that's way better they call it g6x and 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:37.279 what they're probably going to try and push it harder than they have before and 00:11:34.959 --> 00:11:44.240 the problem with that is that famously for the rtx 3090 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:47.120 the g6x got to like 105 degrees 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:51.040 which is ridiculous now it is within spec for the memory the memory can do i 00:11:49.040 --> 00:11:55.360 think up to 120 or something like that what's the top kind of temperature range 00:11:53.360 --> 00:12:00.959 that you would like want your GPU to be at right i would want the maximum sensor 00:11:57.839 --> 00:12:02.560 to be at like 80. okay like personally 00:12:00.959 --> 00:12:06.240 that would be my it's been a while since i did a graphics card review and did 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:10.959 temperature testing you know yeah well i mean i actually did do that at ncix 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:15.600 we could get you to do it again they they were not good videos i mean i had 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:19.680 no i i had nothing uh i should not have been doing that at the time but there 00:12:16.800 --> 00:12:22.079 was no other option anyways um you we they were seeing temperatures of 105 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:27.519 degrees yeah which is absurd so you're gonna burn 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:30.000 down your house yeah well maybe not but like if something blew up then uh i 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:38.240 don't know it wouldn't be it wouldn't be good for your thousand plus the 30 90 is a 1500 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:39.920 GPU to go back to the the architecture 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:44.320 and uh love lace being an amputee refreshing stuff you were saying that um 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:47.760 you you thought that that change was coming about because of the crypto 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:52.720 situation but the pc and i mean maybe that's right 00:12:50.160 --> 00:12:56.560 i have no idea but the pcr uh gamer article that i had brought up was saying 00:12:54.800 --> 00:12:59.760 that the reason that they kind of switched tacks and decided to 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:03.839 make lovelace a more powerful architecture is because they were scared 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:07.200 of rdna3 i mean it could be a little column a 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:11.200 little column b right and that information was also coming 00:13:08.560 --> 00:13:14.639 from copied seven kimmy but yeah so i think that if they're concerned about 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:18.240 rdna3 that might have been like what got them 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:21.839 started on this road uh i think the crypto crash might be 00:13:19.920 --> 00:13:27.040 worked out then to push it up to july but now 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:29.600 another tw tweet by cobite kopite 00:13:27.040 --> 00:13:33.600 has said that they're disappointed with rdna3 00:13:31.040 --> 00:13:37.440 uh which which is uh which is makes me disappointed in turn well i mean we 00:13:35.760 --> 00:13:40.720 don't have as many leaks for our dna three as far as i know i looked it up a 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:46.160 little bit uh video cards has a little bit of a table of all the stuff that has been leaked right um i don't think it's 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:50.160 a huge amount of information we can really talk too much about because it's 00:13:47.760 --> 00:13:53.200 like talking about caches and stuff yeah which is a little bit too far on the 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:56.399 weeds i think for like a talk link i don't want to go in the weeds um i mean 00:13:55.040 --> 00:14:02.160 we're making a whole video basically about leaks and rumors right now yeah uh 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:06.320 but uh you know it's fun and i feel like the GPU scene is getting more 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:12.000 interesting than it's ever been in a while uh especially because it's like 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:15.279 well i mean you've been getting every time there's a GPU release you get 00:14:13.680 --> 00:14:18.560 it in you get to play with it and you do a review and that's nice but for 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:24.959 everyone else out there you know they're of the people who have like battled with scalpers and battled with 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:27.920 best buys 200 membership program to try and i i don't get to take these gpus 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:32.320 home i got an rtx 2080 super i mean that 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:35.839 would be the cherry on top it would be yeah but i mean there's a lot of people 00:14:33.920 --> 00:14:40.000 who have been sitting waiting waiting biding their time to for for the release 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:44.079 of a GPU that actually makes sense to buy and that they can buy 00:14:41.920 --> 00:14:49.360 for a reasonable amount of money and now that the msrp is coming down and we're 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:56.000 about to get new generations of gpus from Intel for sure maybe NVIDIA in july 00:14:54.320 --> 00:15:01.600 it's an exciting time it is an exciting time but i don't know 00:14:59.040 --> 00:15:07.120 that many people will be too excited to upgrade to an rtx 4x series GPU no 00:15:04.959 --> 00:15:10.560 no and the reason i say that is not because of i think the performance is 00:15:08.880 --> 00:15:14.320 going to be bad it might be iterative it might not be it 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:18.720 supposedly is going to be twice as good as last gen 00:15:16.959 --> 00:15:23.519 but the power consumption it's just sky high oh yeah well at least 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:27.600 it's not 600 watts that's what some of the leaks were saying the 4090 ti is 00:15:25.680 --> 00:15:32.720 rumored to be 600. oh okay the 40 90 is 450 which is the same 00:15:30.800 --> 00:15:37.440 as the 3090 ti that's why people were saying the 3090 ti 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:41.040 is a trial run for the 40 90. like what in terms of trial run in terms of like 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:43.760 can it work technically or like what will people think about this kind of 00:15:42.560 --> 00:15:49.040 power is it going to be stable that kind of thing right and also yeah gauge you know 00:15:47.760 --> 00:15:54.639 what do people think people get mad at us people get mad at us if they need a new circuit in their house to run their 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:58.079 GPU take all the power in their power supply for ourselves like i don't think 00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:01.839 i could run that at home like the rtx 3090 is already a stretch 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:05.839 like i turn it on and the lights dim when i'm like working at home 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:10.720 this wouldn't be marks and stuff but this wouldn't be the first time that we've had gpus powered by like a an 00:16:09.199 --> 00:16:14.320 extra plug you just like plug in the socket right that's happened before were 00:16:12.560 --> 00:16:17.839 you telling me that that is a thing that happened before you can get like a power 00:16:16.160 --> 00:16:22.480 supply that you can slot into a pci express not really the slot but into the 00:16:20.160 --> 00:16:25.839 into the place where it goes right and then you'd plug into the power 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:29.360 there and you'd plug it into the wall and right then you'd get power to plug 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:32.880 in your GPU or whatever um you'd have two power cords coming 00:16:30.959 --> 00:16:36.720 from your pc yes those have existed they weren't common 00:16:34.880 --> 00:16:40.639 they weren't popular but they existed on the for people who were like super on 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:44.399 the high end or right had a jeep a GPU that was just slightly too powerful for 00:16:42.560 --> 00:16:47.759 their power supply right maybe they had an sfx power supply and they they 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:53.680 couldn't get any more wattage out of it but they had an extra slot for some reason i 00:16:50.800 --> 00:16:56.240 don't quite get why they existed um what do you mean 00:16:54.639 --> 00:17:00.000 so you could have the highest best performance and beat all your friends i 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:04.319 guess it was in the pre-kilowatt era for power supplies frames win games and 00:17:02.160 --> 00:17:07.120 frame frames did you forget no well i mean frames win games but you used to be 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:11.600 able to turn the resolution down without it turning into a blurry mess 00:17:09.280 --> 00:17:15.520 wait what now you can do that well now people are running it like 00:17:13.600 --> 00:17:20.559 1440p 4k 1080p upscaled 00:17:17.280 --> 00:17:22.160 yeah you can go down to 40p and use dlss 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:27.679 or whatever i don't i don't forget we can do that yeah but it used like for 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:32.080 until dlss happened and from the time that crts were obsoleted right we didn't 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:35.120 have a way to do that you changed the resolution and it blurred the crap out 00:17:33.840 --> 00:17:38.960 of the image doesn't matter what you did um but now 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:43.039 i guess you're you're saying that now we have all these scaling options so what 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:47.280 is the point of a GPU that can actually output you know 600 frames a second or 00:17:45.840 --> 00:17:51.600 something stupid well i mean 600 frames per second isn't 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:56.080 stupid well i mean for a game it kind of is kind of stupid yeah but for a display 00:17:54.080 --> 00:18:00.160 it actually divides evenly into every common frame rate 00:17:57.679 --> 00:18:03.760 600 600 okay i just picked that number that's not a real number i just no it's 00:18:01.679 --> 00:18:09.360 it's a real number it is it's 600 is not a real number 00:18:05.919 --> 00:18:11.760 never use 600 never write it down 00:18:09.360 --> 00:18:16.080 600 is the perfect refresh rate it divides evenly into 60 okay it divides 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:20.559 evenly into 50. all right 480 divides evenly into 30 let's say 480 divides 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:24.240 evenly into 24. Anthony there is no judder no matter what content you're 00:18:22.320 --> 00:18:28.400 running on that on that display you have to get a 600 once 600 hertz monitors 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:32.320 come out we will not need any faster monitors so what you're telling me is as 00:18:30.080 --> 00:18:37.270 soon as the 490 ti comes out you're gonna be first in line 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:38.880 well no because i run Linux 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:45.679 oh man okay but let's say this GPU can push i mean there are 480 00:18:44.080 --> 00:18:51.039 hertz monitors right now and being developed by lg and auo and i i i feel 00:18:49.280 --> 00:18:54.160 like we're setting up for them to come out probably next year at some point 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:58.559 they're they're showing off prototypes at uh at conferences right now so we 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:04.799 have 480 hertz monitors on the way in a situation where 00:19:01.760 --> 00:19:08.160 we have gpus that are capable of pushing 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:10.240 that stuff and we have the capability to 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:14.640 scale things you know you can run things on a on a low-end GPU right now and just use 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:18.480 a bunch of scaling and it like seems decent yeah so so 00:19:17.120 --> 00:19:22.080 that's what you're saying why do we need the big giant ones we're heading in the 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:26.240 wrong direction i feel like the big bad gpus are just 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:30.240 getting bigger and better for the sake of being bigger and better yeah who's 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:33.919 going to buy them most people just want a regular mid-range why can't we get 00:19:31.679 --> 00:19:36.960 like a good solid mid-range well i mean you could argue that we got that with 00:19:35.280 --> 00:19:40.960 the 3080. but the 3080 was never pro like 00:19:39.120 --> 00:19:44.400 basically you could never buy it for the launch price of i think it was supposed 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:49.360 to be six hundred dollars okay which i mean mid-range for 600 sounds weird but 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:52.640 inflation's a thing so yeah um here we are 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:55.840 oh man i can you like that's going to be a whole thing because inflation is 00:19:54.240 --> 00:20:00.880 happening right now way bigger than it was a few years ago we're going to get these 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:03.679 like affordable quote unquote used gpus on the market 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:08.320 but i mean you know there's going to pro hopefully there's going to be enough of them to kind of bring the price down to 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:13.200 something reasonable it's getting pretty close right and like i go into memory 00:20:11.120 --> 00:20:18.559 express and i see i see gpus lining the shelves and i'm like ah 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:22.720 nature is healing really but uh like the prices are still 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:27.200 high and they're going to remain high for a number of reasons we talked about 00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:30.799 on LTT before but uh primarily in this case i i think 00:20:29.280 --> 00:20:37.520 inflation has gotten to a point where they're gonna have to bump the prices again so like the uh i don't know maybe 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:41.039 we see an 80 series for 800 so in terms of the graphics card market 00:20:39.760 --> 00:20:44.720 right now this is the picture we have right now we 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:48.559 got Intel promising that they're arc desktop cards 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:54.480 we're going to come and disrupt the market in q2 eventually 00:20:51.919 --> 00:20:59.039 and we have the mobile only launched in korea we have the desktop cards 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:02.159 launching soon i guess in china but then 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:06.559 only getting to the rest of the world maybe though in the fall 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:10.320 we got AMD do you know anything about i haven't seen uh many like predictions 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:16.320 about when the next because they just AMD just launched the 00:21:12.320 --> 00:21:18.320 69 50 67 50 650 xt's 00:21:16.320 --> 00:21:22.240 uh which is like a refresh of the 6000 series do you know anything i mean i'm 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:24.960 not asking if you know but have you heard anything about when 00:21:23.679 --> 00:21:27.840 the next AMD series is coming 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:33.520 i haven't really heard much i think the 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:35.679 rumor suggests that rdna3 will probably 00:21:33.520 --> 00:21:40.960 be somewhere in q3 oh sometimes this year but we are 00:21:37.679 --> 00:21:42.000 getting this year probably i don't um 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:46.000 now see i think that AMD has come out and said 00:21:44.159 --> 00:21:49.600 that they're not going to be this year again this is all speculation we don't 00:21:47.600 --> 00:21:53.520 know they it is kind of annoying actually they'll like be like oh hey by 00:21:51.600 --> 00:21:58.799 the way we're launching a GPU in one week yeah like i have okay two weeks at best 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:02.720 notice yeah to figure out what my plan of attack's going to be 00:22:00.159 --> 00:22:06.480 uh official details on speculations and specifications release date should be 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:09.679 available middle of 2022 uh 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:14.400 suggests that zenfone rd and a3 will be released simultaneously in q4 of 2022 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:17.840 that's what GPU mag says i don't really know okay so so we may 00:22:17.120 --> 00:22:22.240 be fine to expect new AMD gpus this year as 00:22:21.360 --> 00:22:26.559 well and then we got potentially the rtx 40 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:32.799 series coming in july i mean a year or two the 00:22:30.159 --> 00:22:35.200 great GPU shortage of forever which feels 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:39.520 for the the the pandemic GPU shortage what 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:43.919 are we going to call it we'll call it the dark times the dark times 00:22:42.080 --> 00:22:47.919 before the empire it's 2.0 because this is the second 00:22:45.760 --> 00:22:52.799 major time that it's happened right the first was the dark ages yes yeah and now 00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:56.000 this one stages yeah they had no gpus back then at all it's the dark times 00:22:54.480 --> 00:23:00.240 yeah it was so dark they couldn't even play any games they couldn't trace any rays 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:05.760 but you're uh it'll be over and we'll look back on these times and laugh is 00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:09.440 what you're saying hopefully at least in the next year or so i don't know 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:15.600 there could be more the chip shortage isn't totally over but the GPU shortage 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:17.039 seems to be that's true oh it's way out 00:23:15.600 --> 00:23:21.280 well i believe and i believe that that's the end of 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:24.640 this episode of talk linked tackling it's back 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:30.320 uh i'm gonna be we're gonna be trying to do these at least once a month on 00:23:27.120 --> 00:23:31.840 tuesdays on some tuesday in a month 00:23:30.320 --> 00:23:36.880 that's not really giving you much of a heads up but uh yeah if you liked this 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:39.600 subscribe what what do you what do you i don't 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:44.640 even do any of this on tech link normally so i don't even know how to end a talk linked anymore 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:50.080 you just do your standard you you know your thumbs up yeah like or dislike if 00:23:47.760 --> 00:23:54.960 you didn't like it uh get subscribed so you don't miss future videos like the 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:58.799 tech news that happens every monday wednesday yeah it only happens on 00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:03.200 those days those days are the only days the tech news happens yeah and maybe 00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:06.400 comment down below with more tech news that you might have that we missed 00:24:05.280 --> 00:24:10.559 Anthony you're killing this outro dude well i 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:13.520 mean it's it's the standard outro nice job 00:24:11.600 --> 00:24:16.400 wow you know once you become a host you kind of learn these things you're a 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:20.240 professional you're a professional host professional wow that's that's actually 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:22.960 you're my favorite host actually oh well thank you i'm i'm not my favorite host 00:24:21.919 --> 00:24:25.679 but Anthony come on 00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:33.840 you're my favorite you're my favorite host you're my favorite host okay you're 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:33.840 my favorite host