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(Elbrus)","channel":"Techquickie","show":"Techquickie","published_at":"2021-05-05T14:58:16Z","duration_s":289,"segments":[{"start_s":0.08,"end_s":7.759,"text":"not long ago we did an episode on a line of cpus that were not made by AMD or","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":5.52,"end_s":11.92,"text":"Intel but rather by an AMD backed chinese joint venture just for the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":9.76,"end_s":16.32,"text":"chinese market but these aren't the only alternative desktop and server cpus out","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":14.16,"end_s":20.4,"text":"there russia also got in on the fund some years back and it appears the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":17.76,"end_s":25.359,"text":"company behind it mcst in case you can't read cyrillic is once again producing a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":22.56,"end_s":28.56,"text":"lineup of cpus called elbrus so why are they doing this and 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in","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":283.68,"end_s":289.919,"text":"the comment section with your suggestions for topics that we should cover in the future","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"not long ago we did an episode on a line of cpus that were not made by AMD or Intel but rather by an AMD backed chinese joint venture just for the chinese market but these aren't the only alternative desktop and server cpus out there russia also got in on the fund some years back and it appears the company behind it mcst in case you can't read cyrillic is once again producing a lineup of cpus called elbrus so why are they doing this and how exactly are they different from more traditional offerings to answer we collaborated with our friend dr ian cuttress of anontec and we'd like to give him a big thank you and a sloppy kiss for his help and after you've done watching this video be sure to check out his personal youtube channel techtechpotato for lots of cool insights into all things hardware so like china russia is interested in completely controlling the silicon that goes into its processors they want to avoid potential back doors from chips designed outside the country namely AMD and Intel's and maybe even put in a few backdoors of their own the russian government has put in orders for lots of albers chips and is even forcing some of their own departments to use them but other than being russia controlled what makes them distinct well probably the biggest thing is that they're designed using a vliw or very long instruction word architecture don't you just love how engineers name things anyways what this means is that when you write a program for an elbrush chip you pack several operations into one instruction meaning the way that CPU runs is more parallel than your average x86 core that's probably sitting on your desktop or laptop right now in fact AMD had some mainstream graphics cards several generations ago that ran on a vliw-like architecture since parallel processing is more efficient for graphics operations which you can learn more about up here this does make an lbrs CPU more difficult to code for especially as the hardware has a much more difficult time deciding on its own what the most efficient order to execute instructions in would be this is called out of order processing a key feature of virtually all modern x86 cpus it also means that general performance for something like just running an operating system isn't as good as what you'd get on a modern x86 chip although lbrs can run x86 base os's and programs through hardware translation you're only looking at performance of about 80 of what you get with a comparable x86 processor and that's best case but they're designed this way for a couple of reasons one a chip that's hard to code for ultimately gives russia more control over its own hardware two elbrus chips are expected to have lots of uses in government supercomputers to model things like weather and military applications uses that are more specialized meaning that mcst isn't as concerned about general performance mcst is also the only major company that makes elbrus motherboards and it looks like it'll remain this way for the foreseeable future meaning it's going to be very difficult to get your hands on an elbows chip if you live outside of russia inside the country the russian powers that be envisioned the chips becoming widespread in government medicine and education and although there are variants for plain old desktop pcs in these industries the big focus is on servers and enterprise level deployments and since they're not trying to really compete with AMD and Intel in the traditional sense russia looks like it will be fine with the process nodes being a little behind elbrus currently uses the 28 nanometer process with an 8 core model costing around 1700 us dollars however they are looking at coming out with a 16 nanometer 16 core model in 2022 with a seven nanometer 32 core chip two 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