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about a month ago I made two very bad decisions back toback first I went

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swimming with my cell phone and then second I tasked you guys with picking

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the replacement for me right out of the gate the winter was clear and I got to

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work migrating my life to the ferone five which

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hey oh Reddit what did you do the LG Wing you

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got me guys but For Better or For Worse

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I'm a man of my word so I really have been daily driving this thing for the

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last month and there are a lot of things I hate about it you absolute trolls

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however unexpectedly there were some things I genuinely liked even if none of

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them had to do with the unique screen layout or to do with our sponsor just

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like that oh it's wrong again don't be a dentist build Redux offers all kinds of

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Redux at the link below where do even begin with this thing have you ever

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found yourself wishing that you had a selfie stick that was about 3 in long

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and permanently attached to your phone well congratulations you just invented

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the LG Wing I think it's fair to say that calling the secondary screen kind

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of useless would be an act of generosity on par with declaring jibbo to be the

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invention of the year for real the best thing that I can say about the swivel

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screen feature is that it was relatively easy to

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or at least it would have if the phone it was attached to wasn't so all around

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bad but we'll get back to that in a bit because things actually started out

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pretty okay the first legit use I found for the wing form factor was watching TV

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on the top screen while scrolling the news on the bottom a real world 50%

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increase in usable screen real estate unfortunately that only kept me

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entertained for about 10 15 minutes before I realized wait I don't like

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reading in Old CRT TV form factor I want

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to go back to Portrait and just use picture and picture like I always have

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one thing I didn't get sick of though was using the wing to show my phone to

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other people this is objectively much

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easier than this or at least it is until you

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want to try to change the volume back here really oh another good thing though

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it fits nicely in a cup holder okay but seriously though I was

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surprised by how much thought l clearly

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put into developing not just the hardware but even the software that

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could take advantage of it like look at this the first time you deploy the

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screen you'll be greeted with a tutorial that explains all the different cool

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ways that you can use it bookmarking your favorite landscape apps to the

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swivel menu configuring them to utilize the second screen in a variety of ways

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including opening two apps at the same time more on that later or even

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expanding individual apps to the second screen which is objective ly super cool

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or I don't know at least it would be if the experience wasn't comically bad just

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about every time I tried to use it to be

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clear LG's own apps can be an okay

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experience the camera app for example has this gimbal mode that mimics the

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experience of using a camera on a motorized stabilizer Mount pretty neat

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right I mean in practice the resulting videos pretty low resolution since LG is

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using digital Zoom to enable their software stabilization but it definitely

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achieves a different look and feel compared to a typical phone camera and

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it's got a built-in handle the problem is that third party apps even some of

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the ones that were included in the swivel menu by default struggle to make

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use of the Wings unique screen layout YouTube for instance is obviously

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designed to run in portrait I mean look at all this Blank Space while you're

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browsing content in landscape and no effort has been made to move secondary

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elements like comments for example to the B bottom screen and that's far from

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the worst of it check out what happens when I try to go back from a full screen

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video with my swipe in from the side navigation gesture um

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hello absolutely hilarious Maps is fine though at least

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until you go to search for a destination

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ergonomic and it gets even worse after

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struggling to think of any other app that might benefit from launching in

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landscape mode all the time I settled on Team Viewer only to quickly realize that

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LG's warning about unpredictable behavior on nonoptimized apps and if you

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remember that's all of them was well Justified my fingerprint wouldn't read

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more on that later and I couldn't find any way to get the pin pad to open

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locking me out of the app completely but lonus what about the two

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separate apps though actually this one felt a lot more practical to me I mean

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who can hate having extra screen real estate now obviously it's not the same

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as a foldable where you can just seamlessly expand your working space but

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there were times that I was extremely grateful to have the inner screen like

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okay you know how it's gone out of fashion to let you copy part of the text

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in a messaging app well with the wing if someone sent me a phone number or a

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street address for example I could just throw their message up on one screen and

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then transcribe it directly into my maps app on the other

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unfortunately that's about it or okay

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not quite there's this bottom screen trackpad mode you can have a mouse

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cursor on the top that's pretty cool coming back to a remote desktop but I'd

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say any Improvement in productivity from that is probably offset by the fact that

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the keyboard doesn't automatically open on the bottom screen but rather opens

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like this giving you a teeny tiny little space to work with speaking of

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automatically uh Android auto didn't

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work at all for me the prompt to connect would come up but then the wing would

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just sit there and Buzz ineffectually until it got bored and I tried

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everything rebooting the phone rebooting the car a different cable uh forcing the

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uninstallation of the updates and then reapplying them I finally gave up and

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then 3 days later it randomly popped up

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a message when I plugged it into my car just to charge and it's worked

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flawlessly ever since I have no explanation for that other than I don't

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know maybe it got an update but for real though I was pleasantly surprised to

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find that the wing is not only running Android 13 but is still getting pretty

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regular patches I got two while I was using it now you might remember that LG

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got out of the phone game way back in 2021 but they promised Wing owners at

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least three OS upgrades plus patches and

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they seem to be keeping their word the OS was generally pretty responsive and I

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didn't encounter any unexpected compatibility issues even when using

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apps on the wing display if it works in landscape it works on the wing they also

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took a really cool approach to carrier and manufacturer bloatware as part of

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the setup process you just opt out of anything that you don't want instead of

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having to go hunt them down and neutralize them in the app tray later

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and this is approach I would love to see adopted by phone makers that still exist

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raising the question if they can ship up toate software why don't they still

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exist well see the thing is updated software doesn't mean good software

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there wasn't a quick access icon in the shade for the hotspot feature so you got

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to dig through the menu like a pleb if you want to share your connection the

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phone app is super overzealous and turns the screen off the instant you start a

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call regardless of the state of the proximity sensor so if you need to punch

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in an extension or Mash zero trying to get to a human in a phone tree you need

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to convince the wing to turn the screen back on and allow your input which by

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the way was a serious problem with the device the entire time I had it I don't

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know if we're going to be able to capture this in b-roll but it felt like

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a solid 25% of the time I wanted to wake

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the device I had to press the bloody button two or three times to get it to

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actually accept a fingerprint input see yeah it did it this time of course it does the second I turn on the camera

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sorting your apps in the drawer also feels a little broken you can just sort

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them alphabetically like on any other phone but then anything installed

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afterward is going to be just plunked onto the end out of order until you

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manually Resort the again genius

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speaking of apps while the software that comes on the phone works pretty well on

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this unique aspect ratio anything else

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that you download is going to be pretty hit or miss some apps just don't size

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well to the smaller screen and most of them have no native multiscreen support

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uninstalling apps also had its snags

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though it's hard to tell if this is an LG thing or just a not Samsung thing

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when I delete an app from the App Drawer I just get unceremoniously dumped back

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to the home screen every single time I

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can see how if you're removing just one app that's probably fine but if you're

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like me and you only periodically clean up the unneeded apps from your phone it

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can get kind of annoying after the third or fourth time that you're reopening the

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app drawer and going back to where it is that you want to be so good job Samsung

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I guess and do better everyone else

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especially LG my biggest issue with the wings

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software was the overnight res starts it happened about three times during my

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month that the phone would just randomly reboot in the middle of the night which

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shouldn't be a big deal I mean lots of phones reboot in the night to install

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updates and stuff like that except that on the wing my notifications would just

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stop working until I unlocked the phone again in the morning at which time all

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my notifications would come flooding in which caused me to miss a couple of

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morning meetings but that's probably enough time spent beating up the

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software given that I need need to save some time to talk the hardware too like

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most folding phones the wing is heavy

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and I mean I get it you got to have enough structure in there to keep not

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one but two screens rigid but

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then with all that work you put into it how does it end up feeling so loose I

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mean seriously guys we went out of our way to get our hands on a brand new

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device in order to ensure that the hinge wouldn't just be busted from the

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previous owner but after just a month on

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this thing typing with the phone closed

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causes a noticeable rattling under your fingers and even just holding the thing

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causes the front screen to shift a little bit under your fingers and not

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just the way it's supposed to swing but the other way too almost makes me want

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to just get in there with an LTT screwdriver and tighten things up LTT

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store.com oh and don't get me started on

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the fingerprint sensor this might be the worst fingerprint sensor that I have

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ever encountered it's working fine right now because of course it is I'm trying

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to show you guys something but your fingers need to be exactly exactly the

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same level of clean and moisturized that you were when you first set it up and

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you've got to get the location and I found even the pressure sometimes just

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right like seriously it worked to unlock this phone maybe 50% of the time for me

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and that includes five attempts like I would often have to enter the pin and if

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you flip out the wing display well that just ramps the difficulty up to Hard

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Mode since it especially seemed to struggle when you tried to use it in a

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different orientation than your original skan it also reveals another problem the

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design of this phone even if it was practical captures a ton of dust on the

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inner screen here and then on the back of the upper screen especially here

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where the earpiece is that crud then scratches the crap out of these slides

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around the edges of the upper screen and on the bezels of the lower screen and

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even though this phone was new out of box when we got it after just a month

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not only do we have scratches on there but even a few that are starting to form

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right here on the bottom screen that is

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pretty brutal and while we've got it flipped over by the way now seems like a

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good time to check out the physical buttons using these with the screen open

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is basically impossible especially if you have thicker fingers and to top it

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all off the thing isn't even fidget friendly I mean you can open it

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one-handed but closing it again it's a bit of a challenge especially if you

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have smaller hands like look I can do it but boy is that ever a risky maneuver

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the thing is if the wing was an otherwise great phone with this gimmick

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I wouldn't even be complaining but using it for this last month has just been a

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nightmare it is full of compromises even

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compared to my older Samsung Note 9 it's it's got a weak mono speaker no

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headphone jack this weird ripple effect on the screen that's especially

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noticeable on light backgrounds and while they've carved out enough space

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for three rear-facing cameras they're all wide angle what is up with that the

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pop-up front-facing camera is kind of nifty but it's also one of the most

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reported trouble points with the device which feels like an especially

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unnecessary cell phone when they could have just I don't know kept the front

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camera behind dis swiveling screen alongside the earpiece

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speaker which okay that's actually not a great solution not everyone wants to

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take a selfie with the screen and Landscape like this but it does

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highlight an interesting design compromise that was made to accommodate

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the sliding screen look how thin that

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front screen is that is crazy there is no room to put a camera in there or even

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a speaker so what they did was they put the speaker here and then they just

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stabed abbed a hole in the front screen and did the engineering equivalent of

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cupping their hand on it absolute genius

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at least the battery life was okay not great just okay which I guess is going

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to have to pass as a high note to leave

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the video off on I'm honestly just happy the month is over and I can finally move

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on to my pick the fairphone 5 and you

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