about no well we're live now so if you want to
ask me if we're talking about it then i guess we're pretty much talking about it
no we're not no no we're not oh what what what is it well i can't what no you
can't we're live now you can't tease me like that you can't be like hey are we
gonna talk about and then just they're here it's embarrassing
oh like that yeah i actually have no idea what you're talking about
we have a great show this week yeah um
it might not be the WAN Show but like somewhere someone will have a
great
show i'm looking at the show on my laptop and it looks
so over saturated
the problem is that we're using a gaming monitor oh our color calibration
that's our issue that's where we're running into trouble
here so we've been so first of all
first of all our camera people came in and cranked a black magic cinema camera
to 1600 iso so it basically properly lit
room my shirt just looked like it looked like a bunch of like little
bugs crawling around on my shirt um because of all the noise
so much noise and then we tried to fix it ourselves
which resulted in the visual feast in front of you today
it's a very saturated feast so that's that that's where we're at on this all
right what do we got for topics is there anything worth listening to or should
people just tune out now uh no they should definitely stay tuned there's
there's a couple things that i think will be relatively interesting uh the
first topic i don't think is that interesting um there's there's an lg
giveaway that we can talk about yeah you can get some lg stuff that's cool
actually you can get a whole gaming slash workstation machine should we just do that now sure okay um so last chance
to enter the hive mind pc giveaway sponsored by lg the winner gets a pc
with an estimated value of about two thousand dollars depending on which
parts the audience chose as a whole oh so it's like a
voting thing okay you also get an lg 38wk95c monitor so it's a 38 inch
3840x1600 ultra wide so we're looking for ideas on how to
spice up the build and the stream so i will be streaming the build of it live
that's fun and then one lucky winner will get exactly
that machine so uh it's worldwide with
no age restriction how the heck are they doing that that doesn't what that
doesn't sound uh like something that big companies with legal departments
normally do so here's a link in the twitch chat to where you guys can uh go
check out the gleam io information about it including quebec i guess
which never happens entries close at midnight pacific
tonight june 29th so don't miss it
um what else we got uh g-sync HDR modules at 500 to the
monitor price g-sync is expensive this and more breaking news yeah i think we
already knew g-sync normal modules were 300 bucks so the fact that the price
went up should not be super surprising um great news great news uh youtube
experiments with custom thumbnails just coming in saving the day thank you
again youtube appreciate it thank you youtube that was
great i actually had a call with youtube today
and like out of respect for my partner manager i won't discuss any of the
specifics of my call because i am very
appreciative that youtube talks to me yeah because they are not always that
communicative you'd be surprised if that's a relatively new thing yeah it's
it's it's it's amazeballs um but i will say that the tone of the call
on my side was very grateful i'm grateful to youtube
and our google overlords for making
our job at float play media easier so much easier
um there's also rumors because you all know i love rumors of an i9
9900k i almost wish they went just for
full full gold and when i nine ninety nine ninety nine k well it'll be over
nine that's fair um NVIDIA's new nda
requirement to get access to early hardware is this a giant scandal or is
it a mountain being made out of a molehill not even a molehill more on
this at 11. it's like one speck of dirt no no at 11. okay
uh no that's it i'm rolling the intro 11.
did you see this i haven't actually it's actually like exactly what i wanted to make remember i
was telling you oh really it's literally it okay well we'll have to check that
out then
how do i get into the dashboard i use twitch so little
and their settings menus are garbage where's the chat i love you twitch but your settings menus are i just want a
chat oh right oh i forgot to whoops
hey so luke doesn't technically work here but you're going to be at ltx right yeah
luke will be at ltx because luke also technically does do things here
sometimes yeah so you have a video coming soon i do
like actually soon now and not just like me hosting a video and like pulling luke
into it for like color commentary like lucas is hosting uh the nintendo labo
video the latest possible no one cares anymore about it
but these are the reasons why people should have cared nintendo labo video
that's quite a sales pitch all right so basically the whole
internet is wrong about labo and nintendo
now you're getting back into the clickbait spirit i knew you had it in you yeah um so let's jump into our first
topic this was posted by wanatology
um the study of people named juan
yes wanatology over on the forum uh the
original article here is from tech powerup
NVIDIA's g-sync HDR module is
this was just working
you saw me test this i actually didn't but i believe you no i t
no you've got it on luke's no but that's the one okay that was
there we go all right okay so did you try unplugging it and plugging it back
in yes yes i have oh no never mind yeah okay you're right thanks bye
okay like half of my calls to tech support ever
really uh it's happened maybe not half i don't
call tech support that much that's fair um but if we're going back to like when i
would call tech support as a teenager if we're talking about ever
i have definitely made my fair share of
have you tried i must have told you my evga call story
right okay you know what we're going to get back to this g-sync HDR module have i
told you that one before with the mineral computer
i'm not actually sure i don't think so we'll get through part way and i'm sure
there's people here that haven't heard it you'll probably remember because i must have told you at some point the
only time i've ever contacted customer support from any computer
hardware company ever was evga and one
time i've never had to outside of that everything's always worked or it's been
like clearly my fault because my hand was covered in oil and i dropped a hard
drive that is not mac store that was the brand of the hard drive's fault because
i it hit the ground it's my fault anyway took it and threw it on yeah okay pretty
much i know where that's going i was everyone knows about my mineral computer if you don't uh there's there's videos
of it on the channel you should check it out it's it's actually a really funny video in the end but yeah
when i was building it uh i'm like 12 hours into this build and it's taking me
forever it's the first time i've ever built a mineral computer i'm doing a lot of things for the first time it's
actually only it's probably like the low double digits of times i've built the
computer at all at this point right and i'm trying to build a mineral oil one um
i go through a lot of hardships including realizing that due to the fish
rocks that i put in the bottom of the fish tank my power supply would no
longer fit because i did all the sizing based on no fish rocks being there
and it was like really hard to clear a spot for it blah blah blah blah so i
unscrewed the casing on the power supply figured out that
it was like a wrapped setup so it was screwed on one side but it wasn't like
two completely separate metal panels so i had to like tear off the metal that
was there and i ended up only having like little
like wire cutters so i i was able to just get a tiny
little snippet and then i had to literally rip the metal in half i think you might be the king of wrong tools
yeah anyways i got it it it that's why there's like a jagged edge on one part
of that part luke needs a condom which you know
goes to the dollar store finds a balloon
and it's like oh this end looks big enough
surely the other one will stretch
oh my god um
but i get the power supply ripped and it fits now and that power supply still
works actually i've used it recently which is hilarious um it's actually
pretty old i'm really surprised it still works yeah uh everything fits i get all
the oil in and i've i've turned i turned it on i did the old thing you turn the
computer on before you put it in the case which is good yeah we did that and
it worked fine then i submerged it press the power button nothing happened
and i just freaked out because i'm a kid i don't have enough money to buy these
components again right no one's going to give me a return on oil soaked
components oh they sure why it's not going to happen so i'm like try that sometime but i'm sorry carry on i
i have no idea what's going on i'm freaking out it's really early in the
morning for whatever i have an evga motherboard
for whatever reason i was like i'm going to call evga tech support
i don't know why i picked that component yeah because it could have been anything
that was i have no idea yeah i just was like i need to call someone and the dude
on the phone was like really calm and really patient
i felt like i was calling 911. um
hello computer enthusiast please state your emergency
and i start trying to explain what's going on and like he he finally eventually i don't know if
he's heard of mineral cooling before at this point or not but uh
he's like you know what what i'm gonna do i'm gonna add a note to your account
saying that like if we get any components in that have a little oil on
it it's okay that was nuts he did that he actually
did that and then he's like okay i want you to go through
like taking it out and like reseeding some of the components
for me and he stayed on the freaking line the whole time and i i put him on speaker and i
reseated a whole bunch of components and i put everything back in and it turned
on and worked that was like the greatest customer
support call i've ever had in my entire life and it was basically did you try
unplugging it and plugging it back in yeah that was where we were going with this thank you that only took about 10
minutes
but anyway that was just amazing that's that's i i almost never have customer
support calls but that was that was really fantastic no one's come close
since then all right so let's jump over to this
g-sync news um basically
uh pc per disassembled their rg swift pg27uq because those guys have balls of
steel it's a two thousand dollar monitor and they found that the g-sync module is
a newer version than the first generation g-sync monitors which
i think we've known for like two years
that new g-sync like faster g-sync was
going to require a new module anyway the
exact model of fpga is an area
area anyway 10gx480
which is a high performance 20 nanometer soc that provides enough bandwidth and
lvds pins in order to process this huge
4k 144 hertz data stream
it is sold in low quantities for 2
000 for the fpga alone at digikey and mouser
but assuming that NVIDIA buys thousands pc per is suggesting that the price of
this chip alone will add 500
to the monitor's bom cost it is further increased by the three gigabytes of ddr4
memory on the module and the added licensing fees for g-sync
so if even just the three gigs like that stuff's expensive right now that stuff's
really expensive right now so here's the bizarre thing
about g-sync is that from the consumer standpoint i
know a lot of people feel very strongly that NVIDIA should just adopt adaptive
sync or freesync and just kind of
get on board with the rest of the industry i mean
they are now up against more than just AMD like it used to be NVIDIA versus AMD
g-sync freesync and AMD had a handful of partners that were that were rushing
freesync monitors to market um but now NVIDIA is up against a much
larger tide in the industry as a whole samsung
is going to be supporting freesync on upcoming tvs
that to me is huge you combine that with
the freesync support on the xbox and now it's like whoa whoa now hold
hold on just a gosh darn minute whether you have a pc or whether you have a
console yeah if you want a game on a monitor or on a tv if you want all of
those things and the ability to interconnect all of them
freesync is the only solution on the market today
it's probably going to stay that way and a lot of people are assuming that the
only reason that NVIDIA would not adopt
the industry standard solution is in order to make more money on their
licensing but i'm kind of looking at this going
like hold on a minute if there wasn't more to it than that
why would NVIDIA pay somewhere in the neighborhood of 500
for these modules why would they why would they hurt the
competitiveness of g-sync monitors
available on the market if they didn't have to
and then you go you go back again and you go now okay well hold on a second
here g-sync on notebooks doesn't have
this fpga
so they found a way to do it with the embedded displayport connection
but not with the standard i you know i think
we haven't really done a guest in a long time i think this news merits
asking tom peterson from NVIDIA boy to come on
the show and explain why the actual ball sack
they would spend all this money and lock variable refresh rate down to
this proprietary solution
if there is hurt the competitors of their own products yeah
because because imagine imagine that you're NVIDIA talking to
lg or tcl or samsung you're talking to a
major like panel and television manufacturer
and you're going have i got a deal for you
we're going to have you take your existing scaler
i know it's cheap but you know you're gonna throw that away okay you're
gonna take our scaler which doesn't have all these fancy component inputs that
people might need for their legacy devices it doesn't take six hdmis in it's pretty
basic we want you to spend 500 on it
sound good why would they do that if they don't
have to and then why would they go and put a bunch of RAM on it if they don't
have to is there see okay so
i've used freesync and aside from some of the limitations
of the early monitors where the freesync range was not very helpful like it
didn't go down low enough i don't personally notice a huge
difference like is this the kind of thing where i have to pull out a phantom camera in
order to see the the difference in the way the monitors are refreshing is that
something we should do we should we should talk to tom though okay if that's
something we should do then sure but we could get what we should do from
him okay all right
all right i think giving tom a chance
i'm gonna email him right now uh no no i'm emailing him right now
can you guys come on our show and
explain g-sync this is all in the subject line
got a lot of our viewers i mean really this is me asking you guys
don't seem that concerned got a lot of our viewers wondering
why it needs a 2 000 fpga
and three gigs of RAM he's legitimately doing this right now Linus you know chad
seems to be asking for it right now thanks Linus
um okay so formal
yeah you know what i'll throw in the thanks every once in a while
i'll throw in the things it was still basically a one-liner yeah but it's kind
of thanks you know tom tom's i respect tom a lot by the way tom's sounds great
super cool so was the other person included in the email yeah yeah so if
anyone can explain this to me i think our pr contact gets upset when i go
straight to tom because tom is not technically pr or marketing or anything
he's not technically like an outward facing he's really good at it yeah he's
like awesome yeah so it's you know i really want to talk to tom about it because he can put something like
we are spending 500 for lols into a
perspective that might make sense yeah because if there's anything i know about
NVIDIA it's that they don't spend money unnecessarily
all right let's jump into our next topic here
uh this was posted by rubber puppy on the forum
and i'd like to open this with a statement from the uh current coo of
Floatplane media does Floatplane media now or intend in
the future to alter or um disfigure in any way
the thumbnail that a creator would upload to the platform
for their viewers no uh not only does that seem
uh i'm trying to be pr happy right here not
only does that seem stupid just drop the pr happiness uh that's not pr but that
that literally just sounds like unnecessary work and we have a lot of
other stuff to do
so let's just let's jump over to my not only do i not
get the point but it sounds like a bunch of work here's a post from rayo
a larson garasia oh wow i'm not even you
know forget forget that i ever tried um hello team youtube
i would like to know why are not the thumbnails of the videos on my channel
what happens is that all my videos had thumbnails and now they are no longer
seen what a tremendous tremendous concern to have
um this is good so to youtube's credit now
going back to going back to being appreciative of youtube for a minute
here to youtube's credit they replied yeah thank you team youtube that's
absolutely surprising good job i'm not a super huge
fan of their reply we are running a small experiment where 0.3 of viewers
will see an auto-generated thumbnail instead of your custom thumbnail
okay we're not removing the ability to create your custom thumbnail we're just not
going to show it to some people we're doing this to gain insight on
auto-generated thumbnails for the future something to consider too is point three
percent sounds automatically like oh absolutely tiny amount of people but
it's freaking youtube so 0.3 is actually
i have no idea but i'm assuming in the millions of people this is actually a
lot of people it's not a lot in comparison to the
entire whole of people that use youtube but it's a lot of people
there's someone with like a research degree that's going after them super ham
for for not doing this properly there's the comments on this twitter thread are
glorious i heard back from NVIDIA already they're saying it doesn't cost
two thousand dollars so that's good we've we've confirmed now that they are indeed
getting a volume discount which we assumed before um
but uh i don't have any information other than that yeah we knew that so i'm
just i just i've replied uh saying well okay yes but uh we like we still want to
know yeah so just come talk to us about g-sync dude yeah they don't even
necessarily have to be that they should be happy anytime tom gets in front of people they
like love NVIDIA more so they shouldn't yeah they shouldn't be afraid to push
just come come flex your tech and we can that can be like part of it but we can
talk about more things all right so there's so there's a couple things here
number one i personally am of the mind that point
three percent is not that big of a deal even in the context of a channel that
gets two million views a day which is where we're kind of sitting these days
we're a little low right now so hold on per channel yeah but i mean usually
times point and that's not i don't i don't
actually think views is the right way to do it
okay they could be whale users but if it's no no no it's a random distribution
not even that because you're looking at people who it's going to come down to a
choice decision and with how youtube's algorithm works right now if they don't
click on your video it might not come back so you could
be getting cut 0.3 of your users because
now they're not clicking on it because it looks weird so the impact could be
could be hurt yeah okay so that would be 60 000 views a day it could potentially
hit us for us assuming that it's just a one-time a one-time thing which is
honestly not the end of the world but 60 000 people a day that might not see your
video in sub boxes anymore i'm over it
but i have deeper concerns i have other
concerns my other concerns are to do with
why are they doing research into auto generated thumbnails if there isn't some
kind of purpose to the experiment and the only purpose that i can think of
to say an experiment that goes hey what would happen if we just used
auto-generated thumbnails instead of user-created thumbnails is that they are
considering using them yeah
that's the only reason to run this experiment that makes sense to my non-ai
algorithmic brain and question for you i'm going to almost flip sides a little
bit here yep would that be that bad right now we have click bait cancer all
of our thumbnails i'm leaving that up to the audience so i've actually brought up
our dashboard here and i'm gonna screen share with you guys let's go ahead and
pop up my screen here all right so this video right here went up today
high school for gamers uh actually this is not our original thumbnail design for
it it originally had me holding up a legitimate esports textbook which was
hilarious by the way esports textbook amazing
so we've got a few different options here we've got actually do you want to
do you want a straw poll cursed and we just need a couple options do you
prefer our custom one or do you prefer one of the auto-generated thumbnails so
this is high school for gamers we've got me standing holding a book in front of a
plant we've got me standing in sort of a dark room it's hard to see my face and
then we've got me standing outside of a building and then we've got sort of
bigger me with people gaming behind me okay so there's example number one we're
gonna we're gonna do a few we're gonna do a few here uh here let's try this one
this laptop does everything sort of we've got me holding up laptops we've
got some people sitting around eating what is presumably cake
we've got some people sitting at a table and we've got actually me holding
laptops okay all right but i'm not gonna i'm not
gonna lead you guys too much i want you guys to to conclude for me
uh let's try do dual CPU sockets matter
this video didn't perform very well so maybe we would have been better off
you know i actually don't mind this one hmm
okay this one's do you think do you think the top one
that does suck that's like yeah that does suck uh do you think the top one is
the one that it would pick though i don't know it might just be one of it
might be like random um okay let's try why do we need so many
servers
okay this one wow we would have thought it was a tech
linked episode with riley with that one so that would have been terrible that's
not great uh this is just me and kind of a dark mess hard to tell anything
this is just me in the editing den it's hard to tell
like having a picture of the server does seem pretty helpful for this one
is there any other examples you want to you want to see some people in chat are
saying that they pick the middle thumbnail and other people are just keep on saying
that it picks the second one or the second one is the best blah blah blah
interesting okay all right why is everyone buying this monitor okay let's
try this one sorry you guys i know this is taking a little while but this is
this is live research okay so it managed to grab our end card so that's not
helpful for sure it managed to grab me standing in the
kitchen i am looking at a monitor though again the second one's okay though but
the second one is okay it's me sitting there with a monitor in front of me
uh do you have those straw poll results yeah um where will i how will i get them
spamming them in chat so if you just go to chat okay cool i'm gonna go i'm gonna
go check out chat i'm gonna go grab that and bring it up bam oh i missed all right click dick
dang it i found actually one of the better ways to do it is to put your mouse where it
will be and then wait for chat to bump it and then click there i've actually
i've actually found that that works bad solutions for stupid problems
okay so even though we did see some pretty good examples in there of
thumbnails that actually looked not bad
80 percent of you are saying that you would prefer the custom creator
thumbnails at least in our case and i know that there are some creators out
there that are not doing a good job super amusing of of
uh in good faith creating a thumbnail that is representative of the content
yeah um but still an 80 to 20
vote here is is a pretty overwhelming majority that looks pretty clear to me
that you guys have you guys have spoken someone in chat 80 of chat has bad taste
well moving on there
actually we should get our we should get our sponsors out of the way yeah um i
believe one of them is ltx 2018
ltx is the oh that's weird
ltx is the interactive meetup and oops
meetup and interactive tech event it'll be on july 14th at the richmond olympic
oval here in richmond british columbia canada current booths include a blind
cable management competition brought to you by cablemod i want to do that i will
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not contributing much and the extra size probably would have been unnecessary
because it already uh takes up a ginormous significant port have you seen
it no it's actually built oh it will be there like it's confirmed now before we
were just kind of hoping Corsair ASUS vertigo cable mod bs mods free geek
alpha cool and i buy power will all be at the event with a ton of more brands
sending swag and to give you guys some idea of the swag NVIDIA has sent six
titan x's six 1080 ti's and a whole bunch of other
stuff so we are actually thinking they won't sponsor us but they'll give us
stuff to give away that's actually that's pretty cool sure i mean they make ltx pretty sweet
yeah so far two years in a row so what we were thinking is instead of just doing a bunch of draws on the stage
because that kind of took forever and was kind of tedious it did we're going to make so many things there like
competitions cool so like the blind cable management thing you might win a
titan so we want to drive participation yeah
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there's also going to be custom merch apparently that you won't be able to get
other than at ltx i want so wow that's kind of a dick move well like so the
customers that you actually can't get anywhere else is ltx merch oh it's an
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yeah i guess we could do that all right getting back into the news we actually
have a lot of topics oh what what oh no i already did that we did it right
at the beginning yeah bye bye all right
so we've got some rumors to talk about this was posted by numlock21 on the
forum the original article is from wccf tech and i won't say that i know
anything about this because i don't which is great because it means that i
can just talk about the rumors that i've heard this is probably accurate
yeah there's a rumored core i9 coming to z390 um it's rumored to be an eight core
processor with 16 threads which is
absolutely killer because for me there's a fly by the way eight core was really
the threshold that i bumped into um when video encoding mind you this was a while
ago it might have improved since then when video encoding with uh GPU
assistance in adobe premiere and adobe media encoder okay
so if i had a really high speed 8 core
that also had an Intel integrated GPU so i could use quick sync yeah
that had the potential to be the best of all
worlds and six cores wasn't quite enough
so i am really hoping that this will be uh apparently they're
oh branding at core i9 that's wow why are they muddying the waters why didn't
they just make high-end desktop core i9 and mainstream core i7 to i3 like what
are they doing um i'm excited for mainstream to be
eight core i think that'll be a really big deal yeah once mainstream has been
eight core for like three years that'll be really good for software
development and game development and stuff that'd be very nice
i just my only thing with this is like
of course i don't know
well i i don't know they could have stuck with six cores i mean their six cores are actually reasonably
competitive even with ryzen two oh i don't necessarily mean about the 9900k
to be fair oh i see what you mean yeah yeah like uh Intel is making more processors
oh i see yeah the the individual details if they're true that is interesting but
it's a rumor so the rumor is that a core
i7 9700k would be six core 12 thread
direct replacement for the 8700k and the 9600k would be six core six thread so
direct replacement for the 8600k what i would expect and this won't be
popular is that because they are creating a new model number and they're
giving it a core i9 designation i would expect this to be positioned as a more
expensive option what we've seen over the last four or five generations now
going from 2600k to 3770k to 4770k
to 4790k to 5775c
that was short-lived to 6700k
to 7700k is every generation Intel has
bumped the performance by five to ten percent and they've uh
put a few bucks on the price how much do you think it will cost but basically not
much more than adjusting for inflation i think this time we are going to see
the top tier sku on the mainstream platform cost a significant amount more
i wouldn't be surprised if even with ryzen
oh yeah barking at their tails i think so i don't think that from
Intel's perspective verizon challenges
the mainstream k-chips because their positioning of these chips
is that they're forgiving an i9 because those are crazy expensive yes and no the cheapest
i9s uh core i9 let's see well that would be what like
an it's oh um
70 is there a 78 something k
i can't remember oh man this is a laptop chip why why do
i even why do i even bother going to Intel's website when there's wikipedia
oh no okay yeah you're right core i9s start at a thousand dollars that's
that's like not really this one won't be like that though i think this one will
be like a hundred dollars more okay so so from because that's a pretty big
shift for them yes it kind of actually makes sense but it's
a big shift yep so i think this will be like a hundred dollars more and i think
the justification will be that this is the fastest gaming chip and it's also a
really versatile uh sort of cheapo workstation chip
because you will get to use the cheaper consumer chipset which does save you
some money yeah all right
NVIDIA's new nda requirements for early hardware
this was posted by athen immortal on the forum and the original article here was
from tech powerup um so basically i'm glad we used the
tech power up article yeah um yeah
because they are pretty much they went full editorial yeah we don't basically
think that that is that big of a deal
um it was a so this whole situation is very awkward yeah so german tech
application de i don't know if i said that right
probably not um
they felt that this latest update suggested to them
that NVIDIA was mandating positive reviews
in order to get access to hardware they weren't tech power up disagrees i
disagree i actually hadn't gotten a copy because
our video contact sent it to luke who sat on it for weeks instead of pointing
it too okay no i gotta follow up a week after the
deadline hey Linus is anyone from your organization gonna sign this i never saw
and then i got your forward after i had sent the signed one back to him already
i know did you if you noticed from the forward it was not a reply to the original email oh okay i don't think i
got the two week old email okay and that email was like a day or two old at that
point so anyway it wasn't that bad i read through it actually as far as ndas
go it was pretty plain jane it was like two pages
didn't have anything terrifying in it like there's some ndas out there
that are scary like we're working on getting this really unique graphics card
that actually outputs over Ethernet uh yeah it's super cool they're nda
really cool
much bigger much bigger much bigger um NVIDIA's was actually for a company
that size in particular like we've worked with some big multinationals in
the past especially on like sponsored projects and there's you should explain
more why it's not that big of a deal because a lot of people read it and still thought it was really bad probably
because they're just not used to reading legalese or ndas well it's because the
the wording that says the recipient shall use
confidential information solely for the benefit of NVIDIA
means that while the product is nda'ed
you are not supposed to be uh say for example taking this this unreleased
graphics card and lending it to your buddy over at AMD so that they can run
benchmarks on it so that they'll know ahead of time what the performance will
be when the nda means when the nda lifts
the solely for the benefit of NVIDIA thing
also lifts and besides the interpretation of solely
for the benefit of NVIDIA could be very
broadly interpreted like you could say that constructive criticism
is for the benefit of NVIDIA that would be that would be that would be a fairly
easy legal defense like it's not nearly as
restrictive as as it might be made out to be and like we
you know when NVIDIA does something wrong um like for example their uh GeForce
partner program and uh i don't feel like we pulled any punches on that
uh luke has made his feelings on GeForce experience very abundantly clear over
the years um which okay i actually i will take
this opportunity to add for them they've done a huge improvement oh i know when
you when you no no i don't use it either but this is that's the point i'm talking
about you know how before if you did express install
it would install i actually did notice that yeah that's actually super cool
yeah so it doesn't make you install it anymore yeah thank you that's actually
awesome i've hammered on them so much about GeForce experience so i have to
give them the positive kudos at the same time about making it so that there's now
when you go to the express stall it's like express with GeForce experience or
express without i did notice that that's a absolutely totally acceptable good
enough option we've got how about NVIDIA releasing 1030s with ddr4 memory that's
what you get for buying a 1030.
you don't buy low-end graphics cards we've made multiple videos about that
here let's let's just low end graphics card gamersnexus made a recent one about
it too all you have to do all you have to do is google it let me google that
for you technically youtube is google low-end video cards rant are they still
terrible spoiler yes low end video card rant and Radeon r7 240 unboxing and
review spoiler yes um where's gamer's nexus's video
i think it's pretty new
it's about the 10 30 or whatever dang it which is probably picture get your
get your freaking seo okay there you go gamer's next
system the disgrace of a graphics card gt 1030 tdr4 is probably that video is
probably why that person said that thing in twitch chat that is my assumption right
but that's what you get for buying a 1030 instead of a last generation 900
series decent card as far as i know 1030s are for like
the the person that walks into best buy needs to plug in more monitors and
doesn't know any better because the cold hard truth and i've got i've had people
just completely not listen so many times
to mine and yours for that matter criticisms of low-end graphics cards
saying well some people just don't have that much money to spend on a
better one then buy used
it's like the whole point of scrapyard wars
a lot of people like we have had very good experiences with this if you bring
your rig we'll let you test it just test it a lot of honestly a lot of the hardware
community these these dudes will even like let you into their house to where
their computer is to test it there i'm not being some kind of you know elitist
you know oh well then you should just spend more on your graphics card that's
not the point no the point is that brand new garbage is still garbage whereas
used diamonds are still diamonds this
might be a little slightly scratched up or something i'm i'm getting all mad and
i shouldn't let myself get this stressed out about it
it's just stupid uh someone asked when is scrapyard where's coming oh
two weeks to Floatplane to Floatplane
so it'll be a week after that um we had
talked about Floatplane being more ready for prime time by the time
scrapyard wars comes where are we at on that um
there uh can i do a big push go sign up
for Floatplane it's gonna be amazing scrap yard worse i'm hoping are you guys
ready we have some cool things coming there's obviously been some uh minor
shake up as you've heard of recently yeah so we'll have to see how we react to that but there is some cool things
coming notifications are going to be working soon um some parts of it are
already working oh we're not like launching that part yet until all of
it's working uh discord integrations and stuff we're going to be working soon
there's there's some really cool things coming down the pipe uh
if we can get it done fast enough all right cool i'm excited you know what i
should just i should just do it we are gonna we are gonna
pimp at the look on his face so much
concern it's frozen did it freeze why is it frozen why is it frozen there's the
stream stopped we're back ready all right yeah um okay now i was just
messing with you kevski 802. i was like oh god dedicated video on the ltd
channel 20 000 new users overnight
no uh the original article here is from
techcrunch uh and this looks pretty cool vr gloves okay luke go yes okay i've
wanted this so bad Linus has been playing this game what what is the game
box vr box vr i train boxing in real
life two times a week and i have wanted to do this box vr thing but my biggest
problem with it is that i don't want to hold the controllers yep because i think
that would be really weird i'm i've gotten very used to to boxing with my
boxing gloves on and uh i've been talking to haven't had the time but i've
been talking to him about how i want to get another pair of boxing gloves and mod the vive controller into the boxing
glove and now these guys have more or less done it for me i'm sure i can take their
design and attach it to a boxing glove super easy
very so that's awesome so uh in a nutshell um they're launching
out of y combinator's latest class of startups with ambitions to bring a
low-cost flexible glove into users hands or onto them as it were the plexus glove
relies on the existing tracking systems of the htc and oculus headsets so the
tracking sensors grab the position of where the hands are in space via the magnetically attached tracker ooh
magnetic that sounds bad uh yep i would just super glue it to the magnet i think
yeah or better glue uh after calibrating a resting state of the user's fingers
individual sensors communicate their position to the game engine very cool
very cool velcro straps secure the glove at your palm and the individual finger
controls hook onto the end of your fingertips with motors that offer
tactile feedback see this creates a problem for modding into a boxing glove
but i'll probably just ignore that part and just having gloves on and not having
to wear or not having to hold the controllers will be good enough
plexus is shipping the gloves with tool kits for unity and unreal game engines
developer kits are 249 per pair ouch shipping in august
yeah that's not cheap this is something that i've wanted for a long time believe it
or not i didn't know that i wanted it to be a battle royale and in fact i
probably didn't want it to be a battle royale but something that i have wanted
for a long time is much much greater
scale multiplayer experiences uh something that i had sort of envisioned
uh a number of years ago uh what's that uh what's that gamer savage no so savage
was uh let me let me make sure this is even the right name savage game
savage battle for new earth was this it
i think this was it so did i ever tell you about those lands i
used to run at uvic yeah with like the huge amounts of computers across
multiple computer Labs on multiple floors all this kind of stuff we would
play savage because this game supported some crazy amount of players
i don't remember the exact amount of players that it supported but we could
have doesn't say Labs versus Labs going
on oh the other one to 127
players on the team are field players yeah okay i actually didn't know this
was an actual thing this is exactly what i wanted yeah so this is an old game but
it's a very good like land pack you've got a huge amount of people for
some reason you want to get everyone into the game and like it was always really fun
because if i remember correctly this was like redstone like redstone was in this
game so i had redstone in my head i think it was called redstone
pre-minecraft and uh you'd have a whole lab you'd have
like the the leader of that team or the leader of that lab go like we need
redstone and then the whole lab is just like roadstone you see everyone in the
game just run over to go get it it's so much fun
and you have to fight each other and you like level up and you spawn in his
different things and it's like this whole combat rts mix like one person on each
team is playing an rts game right all the other players are playing like the minions
it's it's it's old it's very old yeah
interesting but it's it's fun so imagine that
with like a thousand people yeah and
yeah super cool so uh if anyone i i was really into supreme commander that's one
of the games that i was most into out of
any game like i think i was top 500 at one point which it wasn't a huge
community but i was pretty good at it um
imagine for a moment did you ever play sup com
i did a little bit okay so it has large vehicles like i forget what they were
called but they were like tier four tier four vehicles um that were like these
huge things where you could potentially man something like that with like 20 or
30 people so imagine a 1 000 player version of something like
savage with just like kind of and the way that
um subcom had a lot of really cheap swarmy type units yeah so imagine a game
like that with 500 b 500 with like all
these different roles so you could potentially run around as a marine or
you could be like a gunner on like this
you know big land crawler tank thing or being a heli with three dudes
would be cool if it was like local voice and you like had to engage in local
voice so if you're in that giant mammoth tank with 20 people you've got like the
the driver like telling what's coming up telling people
to like reload different sides all this kind of stuff you actually have to use
like your comm system to talk to anyone that isn't nearby like this sounds like
a gaming experience that would probably be too hardcore for the fortnite kids
oh i'd love it though but i think it's the kind of thing that
could be a completely different level of fun one
thing i really really enjoyed and i know you haven't played this game but it's called it's called black wake um and i
was really hoping this was what uh microsoft's pirate game was gonna be
like but it wasn't really but i don't even remember what microsoft's power
game is called at this point um but in black wake you drop into a new game and
you're on a you're on a pirate ship you're sailing in the ocean and you have to fight other people's pirate ships but
your your captain like it's you're in first person view
and you really can't see all that much if you're if you're the one doing things on deck right and you have to like get
the gunpowder and get the the cannonball
and you have to shove the gunpowder in the thing and shove the cannonball in the thing and then load the cannon and
then you can aim it and fire it so like you can't look where the boat's going so
the captain has to sail the boat and then like bark out like i'm lining up
for this side like port side port side and everyone's trying to reload the
cannons on port side the captain has to yell like there's there's a hole below
deck someone has to run below deck and try to patch it and bail the water out and all that is so planet side too free
to play massively multiplayer first person shooter um that has uh the
guinness world record for the biggest first-person shooter battle with 1158
players being recorded in a single battle i don't
but this doesn't have the rts element yeah i don't personally think it captures the same
the same idea um but it is i i've played a bit of
planetside 2 it it is sort of like that but yeah i don't think it quite captures
the same idea right part of the reason for me is i believe planetside 2 is a
persistent battle like foreversies it's not a match right
i think you can win and lose everything it's an mmo yeah you can win and lose
areas and like there will be a an individual battle for an individual
place and if one person wins or loses then it probably ends and whatnot but
it's not it's not the same type of type of thing
all right let's see what else we've got for our topics here oh right we didn't
even talk about mavericks so mavericks promises right posted by crunchy dragon
on the forum original article from pedestrian tv
earlier this year automation games revealed mavericks claiming its battle royale mode can support up to 400
players crazier yet some game modes the studio says will facilitate up to a
thousand concurrent players
okay a persistent environment means players will leave tracks wherever they
go and you'll be able to drop in and out at any time the world will continue to
exist and evolve whether you're there or not neat
and it'll be able to host up to a thousand players in any given server
google's game streaming service may have a hardware component this was originally
posted by master disaster on the forum the original article is from kotaku
so basically game developers conference in march google representatives met with
several big game companies to gauge interest in its streaming platform
codenamed yeti and this is yet another indication that whether you like it or
not cloud gaming is going to be a thing a
lot of people were so mad when i did that video on what's in videos called
again i know you mean but yeah i don't remember my head shield
something what's it called no no it's not called grid anymore
uh NVIDIA oh crap
it's it's not called gate game no uh
cloud gaming i can't remember what it's called GeForce now no um so a lot of
people were mad they were like they're gonna have to pry my hardware from my
cool dead fingers and you might be right but what's going to happen
is cloud gaming is going to happen whether you like it
or not and there's going to be much like um you know the xbox has gaming
experiences that are simply not available on the pc there's going to be
gaming experiences that are available on cloud gaming that will not be available
to those of you with graphics cards in your cold dead fingers
and graphics cards in pcs are also not
going away anytime soon just to be very clear but
i can imagine a scenario
where if every player was running off of
the same data center effectively you could actually enable massively
multiplayer experiences more easily
so the latency instead of being between the persistent environment and every
individual player because you'd have effectively like zero latency within the
data center would be between every player and their own connection to the
persistent world i actually foresee a way to create gaming experiences that
otherwise wouldn't be possible yeah that's why it will exist and i hadn't
actually thought of that until i said it just now but
there's nothing you can do this is happening
and it also helps that massive companies like google are jumping into the fray
it's not just going to be NVIDIA playing by themselves with some smaller startups
yeah uh i don't necessarily know if i like it or not but i i do think it's
gonna happen it might be i i feel like it would be cool if there was like
some games you know how like wow has a subscription some mmos have
subscriptions you're gonna pay for a subscription anyways
whatever if it's a game that makes sense to have a subscription for
whatever but i see it coming to the point where it's like downloading games
instead of buying physical copies where like people are like oh yeah it's
just easier so i'm just gonna do it anyways and then it bites people in the butt later when now they have download
caps and games are 100 gigs um and other things start happening yeah
not to mention that multiplayer just goes away once the game dev doesn't feel
like it anymore yeah like that kind of stuff uh so google took meetings at e3
in los angeles a few weeks ago apparently the company is looking not just to woo game developers to the yeti
service but to buy development studios entirely oh that's interesting oh boy
whispers have been quieter around google's hardware whatever that might
look like but the rumors suggest it will link up with the streaming service in
some way it's not clear if they want to compete with the technical specs of like
a new gen playstation or xbox or whether it'll be cheaper and low end relying on
the streaming server servers to pull their weight
google has apparently been on a massive hiring spree bringing in experienced
video game developers and marketers from ea playstation and other top companies
interesting uh this was posted by friendly non-murdering sort on the forum
thank you for that this is super cool Android messages for web now available
for everyone the original article is from google.com you can use your
computer to chat with your friends through messages for web which shows
what's on your messages mobile app it's about time messages got some attention
hey like it didn't even have cloud sync until like
it just started working for me very recently i was like oh holy crap my
messages are still there when i switch phones how did this take so long and
just so you guys know to get it yourself oh no this isn't even the right link
where is it messages for web sends sms messages
using a connection from your computer to your phone so carrier fees will apply
just like on the mobile app this is not like um imessage okay it's not databased
still but once wow i keep forgetting what they're
calling it once the new uh check once chat rolls out i see no reason why i
wouldn't be able to use data so if you go to messages.Android.com
it will give you the super super easy instructions on how to sync it you just
click on the triple dot thing in messages it'll bring up a
like a qr code reader scan it you're done
and i've used it a fair amount already because i've been coordinating a stag
and people that aren't on some other messaging system to be able to write out
a massive message with my keyboard and then just copy paste blah blah blah
way easier you can pair it on multiple devices but only one will be active at a
time um Corsair is acquiring elgato gaming this
was posted by kuikolka on the forum i'm hoping that this situation is amazing
because i've had a super intense frustration with them for a long time
which is where they only support Windows 10 on their devices right so you want Corsair to go and
invest heavier into wider i doubt it
but good luck what about new devices though because of course if they make
like stream deck 2 or like some new capture card so my hope
is actually less to do with capture and more to do with
taking stream deck technology and putting it into keyboards
so Corsair's gaming keyboards are already pretty cool but elgato has
clearly done a lot of work on remember the um the art lebadev optimus keyboard
from back in the day if you guys don't know what that is look it up yeah it's pretty cool individual display on
everything or something um so so i would love to
see Corsair take that technology and
make it actually useful and Corsair is pretty good make the keys more durable so that if
you press on them they don't like ruin the screen below it and stuff like that
stuff like that yeah that'd be really cool um even if they just did it as like
a g key area yep i wouldn't even i wouldn't get your
hopes up though i know what you want i don't know why
you want it so Windows 7 is like it's done man it's done that's not even that
i usually don't want but Windows 7 is what i have to use for my sword for my
argument because that's where the majority of users are but someone found
i should have been able to find this but i didn't but someone found that there is
the like history log of versions and on one of the versions the only
thing stopping at work from on Windows 7 8 and 8.1 is a flag that checks if you
have the right operating system so someone made a wrapper that just ignores
that flag and you can just install it on whatever
operating system you want and it works completely fine it doesn't have like if
i remember correctly it doesn't have like twitter video integration or something
and i'm like wow i don't care right so yeah i'm just gonna do that and it'll
work on my computer just fine but last topic of the day you'll probably be
excited or uh apprehensive this is off news.xbox.com and it was
posted by master disaster on the forum which is actually a great great username
uh halo tv series set to begin filming in 2019.
is it live action showtime president and ceo david nevins has announced the
network has ordered a 10-episode season based on the halo game franchise
kyle killen awake will serve as executive producer writer and showrunner
rupert wyatt rise of the planet of the apes will direct multiple episodes and
also executive produce the hour-long series which enters production in early
2019. okay
so it is not clear to me if it is live
action or animated uh it's possible that some people know
that i think that a massive massive mistake was making the
warcraft movie live action did you ever see it uh based on how terrible you told
me it was i didn't bother okay yeah but you played warcraft you saw the amazing
cinematics i played warcraft
like not two yeah and not three did you not play two and three oh i did play two
in it yeah okay i just mean i was just feeling kind of old because
you were like you played warcraft and i was like yes
yeah i did i i played it too to be fair i played it
many many many years later just to see what it was about uh it's not very good
no it's actually pretty like kind of bad yeah and the ai is like super super
brutal so bad but uh the cinematics in warcraft have
always been amazing yeah and yeah uh world of warcraft cinematics
same idea absolutely amazing cinematics and then we get the movie and it's live
action like they they have in my opinion
possibly the best cinematics in gaming there's some argument there with square
enix yeah square enix has some really amazing stuff too in my opinion it's it's
closer or better but and it's hard to make that argument because
you have to go back very far and kind of compare era by era because
they've both done in my opinion it's been them they've both done arguably a
better job of cinematics than games at multiple points in their histories yeah
sometimes it's not even arguably it's just like clearly that's way better um
and so there probably kind of depends on which one going together the whole time
blizzard has been incredible at cinematics and then they make a live
action movie and i just every single time that i see a warcraft or starcraft
or whatever the overwatch cinematic from blizzard
i'm like holy crap this is gold everything about this is perfect and
then you see live action it's just what are you doing so i i hope halo is
not live there's nothing here about whether it's live action or
rendered on the xbox.com article anyway maybe people are telling us in twitch
chat yeah i haven't seen any in twitch chat all right
so that's pretty much it oh mickey555 says i love the movie and that you are a
hater no you probably just don't know things about warcraft
wow um and on that note uh thank you for tuning
in to the WAN Show we will see you again next week same bat time same bat channel
wow
dang it's live action a whole bunch of people are saying it's live it's live
action all right and no i didn't find my cat thank you for asking
you are a straight up savage
someone else replied warcraft made me want to couch my eyes out wow
that's a little aggressive