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we go

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we're live it's rancho time luke is at

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pax in boston thank you for asking

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james is here james is here yeah

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hey new luke discount luke discount luke said

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everyone uh sorry we're late you guys i

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have to confess that it was not entirely my fault

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james was at least partially to blame

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go on um well james distracted me with

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his marvelous beard i spent

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25 minutes just staring at it today

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rather than working which happens to be exactly the amount of time that i'm late

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Yvonne looks confused and worried

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she shouldn't be confused but she can be a little worried if she'd like

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so she knows by now

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um in all seriousness guys we have got

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uh oh apparently the left ear is um

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not getting the right amount of attention oh crap

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i i legitimately don't know how to fix that

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um put your headphones in mono um yeah that

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that may actually be the solution because i don't remember which dial does

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what uh uh um uh

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uh yeah okay

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so yup nope no i don't actually know how that stuff

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works so there you go uh apparently left and why do people

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change these things why would anyone change that

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once again we didn't touch it all week and once again it's different gremlins i

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swear there are gremlins living in it so what's actually going on is i have been

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in a mad sprint to get a bunch of stuff done because i am going to china

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i will be gone all next week but there will still be videos because this week

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instead of being on time for WAN Show i was shooting two videos uh one's

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actually pretty cool the other one's garbage yeah the other

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one the other one's kind of lame um yeah no

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one of them uh Intel released an entire lineup of called xeon w that as far as

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we can could tell as far as we could tell is basically

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their core series high-end desktop processors

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with a xeon sticker over top of core i9

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and some ecc support kind of ticked on in

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the microcode or with a non-lasered connection somewhere in the chip or

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something along those lines at least that's what we thought

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and that turned out to be very true so

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that that's going to be interesting so you can see what you're paying an extra

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uh as much as like five six hundred bucks for depending on what kind of a currency you

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use and i'm just mad that that was like a spoiler

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yeah i guess it's kind of a spoiler i mean

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people who watch the wen show we want to spoil them they're nice people they're good people

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you the best um

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second one is actually on the lenovo x1 carbon really nice machine yeah

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but like everything this year it is not quite

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perfect which will drive me to madness at some point

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because you got either 1080p with touch

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or 1440p with HDR

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but no touchy is there any

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technical reason for that um actually i remember talking to them back at ces and

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i managed to get not a marketing person which is always awesome

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when you manage to find like the engineering guy that's kind of like

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kind of like back at the back of the booth or like kind of

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sipping a coffee they don't let me talk to people like yeah i'm just i'm here

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but like realistically i'm not really supposed to say anything

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um you know whatever so you go find that

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guy and he'll be like

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you know yeah i wanted that too but

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yeah there was there was some issue with this and i don't remember what the

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reason was it seemed to be a fairly

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fairly good one um and anyway we actually had a great

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chat but you remember a technical reason it wasn't just they were trying to hit a particular price point there was a

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business reason okay there was there was a compelling enough reason because i

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remember we had a long chat where we were discussing sort of the stagnation

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of display technology in the pc space

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no one does anything until apple does it

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because you think about it a pc up till the very high end would be like

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1366 by 768 you remember that horrible

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sort of hd resolution that they were pushing for a while

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freaking awful and that was like the norm until apple came out

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and was like okay no retina retina is a thing now and then everyone

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everyone raced to retina but it's all it

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all feels kind of like like it's driven by just responsiveness

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innovate in a way that's meaningful to the consumer so i would look at notebook

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displays and i would go why are we trying to sell 4k

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it at a higher refresh rate that's what i'd like to see i don't mind

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seeing features like HDR for example but

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i don't necessarily want to compromise on them so

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um yeah to be clear we are trying to we are

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trying to fix the audio but for now what i would recommend

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is that you use the i'm watching a podcast but my kids are

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in the next room and i need to hear if they're crying technique i i can't do

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one headphone really i can't do it i don't know it's psychology it falls out

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i'm like focusing on the fact that one of my your ears is getting worn out

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faster than the other i need them to be balanced

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what that's insane

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i all can see it it could be insane it just bugs me

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so and okay let's say that i let's say that i do subscribe to oh wait it's too

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loud Anthony just scream at him out there

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yeah i i'm between a rock and a hard place no no it's fine i'll message him um

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technology let's see him walk me away um

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so let's say that i do subscribe to your theory that listening to headphones is

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to wear them out less

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uh okay no it's it's not the fact

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so i would use just one for a bit right right here here i'll show you i'll show

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you the technique i came up with i call it the i call it the james is crazy but

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maybe just crazy enough for it to work technique

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i'm gonna listen for a little while here i'm gonna listen for a little while here

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i actually miss very little of my program

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but you're saving on 50 your erosion so

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your erosion okay here's the thing it's not hold on just a second i hate you so

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much it's not that they're getting used or worn out like your brakes on the

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car that's fine it's that they're getting used unequally

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okay all right all right but this is all this was just like the

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seed that that resulted in me just hating the

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feeling of it now right this is like when i was like 12 or something right

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uh oh man luke even he knew i wouldn't

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check so he went out of his way to message me

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and tell me make sure that you change the title of the WAN Show because i'm

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changing it for the thing that i'm doing at pax

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fridays uh 17.

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can we talk about news while you do that what you want to talk about news you you

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want the work that you do on this show to actually

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like be for something yeah that's madness um yeah fine okay what do you

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want okay well there's a a thread on our forum uh posted by

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aluminum tech also known as aluminium tech

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and this thread is about the facebook messenger app and how zuckerberg the ceo

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of facebook this week uh confirmed that facebook does indeed

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scan your messages whether they're pictures or text or whatever

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make sure make sure that they conform with community guidelines

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before actually sending it to the to the recipient so

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if you send something that's against their guidelines like hate speech or inciting genocide or something like that

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they may not actually deliver that message to whoever you're talking to

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which uh definitely has some benefits

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but the thread on our forum kind of erroneously implies that the

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that we're not just talking about facebook messenger's normal messaging

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when we're talking about this uh this surveillance it implies that we're

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talking about facebook's secret function which is more akin to apps like signal

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or telegram and that's actually not the case facebook does have a function

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facebook messenger has a function where you can make your your chats

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encrypted end to end and like the interface turns black and there's a

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little lock and you can even make exploding messages like snapchat style

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facebook is not scanning those messages

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at all or maybe they are and we have no evidence of it but the the news or the

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whatever zuckerberg confirmed has nothing to do with the secret messages

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it has to do with the normal messages and so we really shouldn't be surprised

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that they're looking at those so tell me then

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okay do you use facebook messenger yeah actually it's one of my primary messaging apps okay how do you feel

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about them scanning your messages with an automated system

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for community guidelines standards adherence

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as opposed to like a human well i guess i wanna i'm asking two questions first

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so um do you like or dislike it

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i believe okay first of all i think we should clarify i believe that they're

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scanned with an automated system and once they're flagged it requires a human

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to then say this message is not getting sent through i believe that's how it

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works sure i am fine with my messages being scanned

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should also mention that they do not use the data that

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any of the information that they scan that information is not used to sell ads

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which is what gmail used to do prior to last year

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so i gotta tell you um i

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the only reason that i use facebook is

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that facebook does not permit you

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to manage a facebook page

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um so the first page that i had to manage and the reason that i had to

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create a facebook account was the one for ncix pc back when i worked there so

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we were trying to get into this whole newfangled social media thing

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and so i needed an account so that the page

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could invite me to manage it um and make

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posts on it and stuff i have probably posted of my own

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volition a grand total of i don't know between five and ten things on facebook

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ever um i only use facebook messenger as sort

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of a um as a digital phone book because

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whether you're happy about it or whether you kind of just do it because you have

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to pretty much everyone has it and and yes

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thank you whoever's in the twitch chat declaring that they do not have facebook

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because they're taking some stand

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good for you we're all jealous we all want to be in your shoes but but but the

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truth of the matter is that facebook is a great way to get in touch with people

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i i okay like having your first name and middle name as your facebook name no no

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i mean i mean people getting married oh okay so there's a this is kind of

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embarrassing but i was going through my friends on facebook and i was like who

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now married and i was like that kind of looks oh oh

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um and then like a kid that i went to elementary school with he changed his

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last name for some reason i'm not quite sure how that worked to his birth

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father's name oh so i was like oh your

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whatever your name is barry now um

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that's cool wouldn't have known that if i had from barry to barry happy e to be

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a um that would be tough but anyway so what's

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the real phone books aren't a thing anymore um but the bad thing about it

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and the thing that has always made me both a little bit uncomfortable and just

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feel like it's a little bit unnecessary is that while i am technically a millennial um i i share

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sort of updates about my life as a job i

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have never done it for leisure not once um when i created a facebook account it

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was because i needed to for work when i created a twitter account it was because

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i had to for work and when i created a youtube account it was because i had to

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for work same with twitch for that matter um

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so i just straight up like don't really get it and i've never really felt it's

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never been because i feel super comfortable with it that i've shared a lot of detail about my life um like some

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of you have probably noticed that i now

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that especially now that the Linus tech twitter account is managed by the entire

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team i post almost nothing really personal on

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it and i only post to my personal account like once every couple weeks

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at most um and i've had a lot of people ask me like why don't you do more videos on

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your Linus cat tips channel or why don't you vlog or why don't you do this or do

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that and the truth of the matter is like i actually i like

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not having to talk to anybody yeah no kidding like it's related i

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found that i watched started watching our videos a lot less once

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i worked here for a while and it's like not a surprise like what

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do you want to do when you go home do you want to watch Linus tech tips like no you just did Linus tech tips all day

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i i just had to look at him for the last eight hours

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the last thing i want to do is to see him again because he's annoying well

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it's not you see how i'm almost see i'm only wearing out one here right now

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it's not you it's me it's weird today someone someone made a

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thread about uh an item that they thought would be awesome for us to review so i send it to

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Anthony i was like oh have you seen this yet and he's like yeah alex just made a

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video about that today like it's done already like oh

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so okay so back to back to messenger so for

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me honestly it doesn't affect me much because even though i do have a facebook

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account this is actually the okay you know i'm gonna i'm gonna go off on another thing here

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then use your words if i had a if i had a

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dollar for every time we've run a giveaway or a promotion or something

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and it has required you to to tweet something

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for every time someone's been like yeah well you've got you guys suck

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because i don't have twitter if i had a dollar for every time i saw

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that i would still be mad

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because it's phenomenally stupid

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twitter is free facebook is free

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and the only information they have is

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what you give them creating a twitter account

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that's sole purpose is to enter giveaways

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really doesn't give them a lot on you and get this it's free you could create

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a new one every time hey but you need to have an

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email address which is freedom also free

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so if you don't if you don't

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want it that bad to create a free anonymous email and a free anonymous

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twitter account people are like uh cookies

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walk in once post the thing

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log back out

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um it's pet peeve show next pet peeve topic how about that so so i do so so

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anyway so i do have a facebook account but they actually probably know very

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very little about me personally other than that i'm a tech head and i post a

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lot of techy stuff for work

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so i guess i'm trying to say that i just i'm not bothered that much you know what

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sucks more about facebook messenger than that feature is them putting

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ads in your inbox you probably haven't even seen this but

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on on mobile like you'll open your messages it'll be like

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your partner your best friend your acquaintance

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oculus blah blah with a picture and everything really and then another

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acquaintance straight up like right in there and i

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don't know if these are in whatsapp yet but i wouldn't be surprised if that

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happens soon since they've been wanting to monetize whatsapp for a while and

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they own it um i would like to show you something

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super super cool and funny um i think there's a way to see your page f as

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though you are like oh man no you might

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not your personal page yeah view as a page visitor no no no the line of the

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line is tech tips one right um

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oh wow is it gone oh that's pretty annoying um well anyway

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up until sometime hopefully fairly recently

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the the Linus tech tips page actually had as like like the top

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post like somewhere near the top um please don't send messages to this

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account nobody checks them

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and right now see i don't even know where to find them

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which is super terrible uh see the feed do you know where you

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find messages maybe you disabled it maybe that's why that uh warning isn't

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even there anymore i don't know we had something horrendous

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like uh i don't remember how many tens of

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thousands of messages that people sent and i was just like

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i don't know i don't know what i can do for you to help make it more clear that

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you shouldn't send messages through here um and it just said something like yeah

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you need to go on the you need to go on the twitter page if you want to or the

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twitter account if you need to send a message um

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and wow i just i have no i should honestly i should be screen

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sharing right now because you guys would find this pretty funny i have no idea

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how to use facebook how do i facebook

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you maybe you used to then as soon as you had a kid it just left you now

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you're old people i just never did i just actually never cared like at all

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um yeah i don't know but anyway so the

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point is i do use messenger but it's usually just to be like oh yeah that

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person that i met at like badminton at the rec center a couple weeks ago

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uh what was their name again oh right maybe i'll see if i can get in touch

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with them yeah one facebook messenger feature i like is

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that you can make it your default sms app on Android anyway so you could type

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in someone's name and then choose to message them via facebook or through

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like regular texting which is sweet because then you only have one app for

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both purposes but it also kind of sucks so i eventually switched back to not

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doing that all right so why don't we jump into the

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next thing that i'm super mad about um

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the original article here is from anontech and this was posted by aluminium tech on the forum

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once again all right

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this is really dumb and really frustrating and it's not the first time

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that this has been done by either AMD or NVIDIA and so right to be clear even

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though it's NVIDIA doing it this time

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AMD's done it in the past neither of them is getting a free pass

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here and this behavior is absolutely 100

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unacceptable it's right in the headline

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NVIDIA quietly rolls out slower

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lower TDP GeForce gt 1030

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with ddr4 vram

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now to be clear the gt 1030 is not some kind

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of pillar of gaming cards

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or anything like that and you wouldn't expect to be running the latest games at

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the highest settings at the highest resolutions with them

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but you would expect that if you bought a gt

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1030 that what you got out of the box would

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be similar to someone else's gt 1030 and

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i would make the argument that if you look a little bit closer at these specs

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here look at this

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memory that is running at one third of the speed

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oh man not to mention

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at lower base and boost clocks

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with a completely different memory technology so we're talking ddr4 versus

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gddr5

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i would make the assumption that that is not what you would expect

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and that that is going to make some difference to the gaming experience and

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that if you are buying a dedicated graphics card you probably care at least

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somewhat about the gaming experience is it true that these systems the systems

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that will be running these low end cards discrete as they may be

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won't actually be able to really reap the benefits of ddr5 anyway

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so it's not a huge loss okay

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so you could make the argument that the way that um a review site like us or an

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on tech or whoever else would typically benchmark a card like this

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is not necessarily a very real world

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because what we'll do and we've taken a lot of flack for this over the years

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presumably from people who don't understand why we do it this way but

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what we'll typically do is we'll take the highest end processor in the on the

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market and we'll throw a gt 1030 on it

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and then we'll report our results with the gt 1030 compared to

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some other graphics cards you know whatever suite of cards we decide to test and the the fatal flaw that people

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feel like they're pointing out for us is that no one would install a gt 1030 on a

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2 000 7980 xc18 car extreme edition

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um but the problem is that if we use anything else

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we lose track of the difference between

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these graphics cards because what might happen is the higher end ones might end

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up bottlenecked so it doesn't give you a clear idea of the value per dollar

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prospect of each card you're trying to remove the

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CPU as a variable altogether yes so it's as fast as possible

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now with that said it is possible that in the kind of system

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someone might install one of these in you might not see

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as much of a difference but i think you would probably see a difference

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especially because GPU memory has an impact on the GPU's ability to load in

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textures for example so it might affect the detail level that you can run at

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now this is a complete this might be completely not even ignorant but

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does the type of memory impact the TDP

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of the graphics card so it depends it depends on the clock speed it's running

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at it depends on the um

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i think it yeah it depends how many chips you're running it depends on um

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yeah mainly that depends on the yeah it depends on the tech that's being used

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so you could also make an argument that it's better to have a lower TDP

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GPU like and if you're looking to get a 1030 and the kind of system that's going

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to run it you might actually want that lower TDP more than you want the extra

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memory so that is possible

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but in that case what i'd like to see is a separate sku i ended up arguing with

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sapphire um on the phone about

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how old was i supposed to be about 16 years ago but i'm still mad

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i ended up arguing with sapphire on the phone and AMD for that matter about a

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Radeon 9600 that i bought

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so that should give you guys some idea well i told you how long ago it was

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anyway the point is it was a radio 9600 and

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it came with a 64 bit i still remember to this day it came with a 64-bit memory

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bus instead of a 128-bit bus and back

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then that was a big deal and compared to a 1030 um

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a 960 was still sort of a somewhat

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respectable card like if you wanted to play i don't remember if this is sort of era

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appropriate but i think like sims would have been the kind of thing that my sister might have wanted to run on it

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that would have made a significant difference and the reason i was mad was

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that not only was it not marked clearly anywhere on the box

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what the difference in spec was between this card and the other one the only

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place anywhere that i could find this information was on sapphire's website

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but not their north american one it was on their european one

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wow so i had to go all the way out of my own territory online

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in order to find out that this card was not the same thing and it was like

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hidden like way down somewhere and this was at a time when manufacturers were

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often doing like sc editions of cards

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special edition or second edition but what the community nicknamed these

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things was slow edition because a lot of the time they were cut down because of

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yields so like they had a bunch of scrap chips that they had to do something with

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so they'd like you know cut down the memory bus or they'd just do something else like that

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um and that's the point that people are bringing up this this time you know what's the difference between this and

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like 1080 ti it's just but the thing is they don't put the

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these other letters these qualifiers front and center on the box in this case

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this is way down the line in the product description it's a it's a description of

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the memory it's not up front right beside the 1030. yeah they do put d4 in

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the description but it's not a 1030 d4 it's way way way way down there

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so i find it really frustrating but NVIDIA seems to be

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rather than having taken our feedback and a lot of other members of the press

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feedback to heart about the 1063 gig

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which is more than just a 1060 with three gigs of

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RAM or i should say less it's actually slower as well they seem to have taken

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all the feedback that we gave them and

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crumpled it up and thrown it in a fire because here they are doing it again and

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it's only been a few months so what i worry about is that if we don't call

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them out on this it's going to be something that we're going to continue to see happen

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and that's not what we need you don't want to have to walk like

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remember guys this is the same company that brought you green light

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that brought you a program that restricted their partner's abilities to

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pre-overclock their cards to differentiate them

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supposedly to reduce confusion like that's why they have all these branding initiatives and stuff like that

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oh oh not to mention GeForce partner program we want to reduce confusion do

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you want to reduce confusion or do you just want the right type of control

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right so it's good for their business interests so it doesn't matter

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a lot of people won't notice anyway i won't know so just let it kind of slip

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by uh this is great sparky sparkle man 55

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says rip i got the notification a half hour late no no we were just a half hour

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late unless you just got it now

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yeah where the ones ripped so i guess i don't really have

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a ton more to add i mean this this is really frustrating

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you've got you've got a note in here some of the listed documentation does show two different core names gp 108 300

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versus gp 108 310 um

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but the whole thing is very confusing and the oh this oh this was what i ended

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up yelling at AMD about 16 years ago AMD

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on their website because remember this was not an AMD card technically it was a

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sapphire card as if AMD didn't send them the friggin chips

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AMD's own website had no mention whatsoever of a 64-bit memory bus

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variant of this card so in this case once again just washing

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their hands of it the official NVIDIA GeForce gt 1030 product page mentions

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nothing about this change

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so how can you how can you how can you advocate for less consumer

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confusion when you're running around enabling your

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partners to release products even if you technically not your product or whatever

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the defense would be how can you be running around enabling partners to

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create products based on your products that you don't even list on your website

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especially going forward when those partners are part of the

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GeForce partner program

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very very frustrating all right do you also feel passionately

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about this spectre business um

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i can't imagine that you feel as passionate about it

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what i really feel passionate about is

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eating savage jerky i know

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in my head i was like he wouldn't

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he couldn't god damn it she did

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savage jerky is a tasty snack that's not bad for you

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it's made with the best ingredients without nitrates or preservatives and

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their goal was to well create a snack that's full of flavor and not bad for

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you which i think i already said i got my talking points mixed up here they've

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got 13 different flavors of jerky uh some of the fan favorites are the

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sriracha bacon um my personal favorite is the maple buffalo bacon i gave it to

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someone else to try like two weeks ago and they were like eh but whatever i

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like it i don't care more for you man more for me there's probably john he's

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not canadian not that i don't understand maple not that i was gonna share it with

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anybody anyway so so whatever uh these

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uh cracked pepper and sea salt is really good the traditional is really good the

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uh anything moho is really good

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you're a vegetarian i want to check out the label and stuff oh okay

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and why not show off a different flavor fine you can show off whatever flavor

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you want you can have the whole box so they not only make beer jerky they've

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got hot sauces barbecue sauce as a spice rub

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jacked i never get anything you're not supposed to get any

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well this bag is fine take it this bag's been open for over a week but you don't

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get to complain when i take your m ms anymore i don't well it's just that you

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do it all the time okay actually i don't eat eminence anymore i eat trail mix you

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take that all the time yeah but you don't get to complain when i pick the m

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m's out of your trail mix i think he's pretty generous he's giving

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me m m's without me even asking before so use offer code LTT to save 10

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on savage jerky products

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next up we've got honey

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person who suddenly turns into a tab hoarder yeah it turns into sure um

470
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loading dozens and dozens of new tabs middle click really is like the bomb

471
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what is that you middle click to open in a new tab you mean like click the mouse

472
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wheel yeah doesn't that just make it like the continuous scrolling thing no

473
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what not when you click a link oh you middle click the link yeah you

474
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don't know this no i don't know that it's the best that's how i end up with like a hundred

475
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tabs oh i really like that you know what i use a lot ctrl shift t you know what

476
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that is reopen close tab oh no i just never

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closed them it's far better so anyway

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one of the reasons you might end up with a bunch of tabs is searching for promo

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codes hopefully at least one that actually

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works and you don't want to close any of them because you might have to go back and

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you know try them again or try them on a different product or whatever the case may be well honey

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i felt like a sucker time magazine calls honey basically free money what am i

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in the video description finally

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can put an end to that whole hey did you get that invoice i sent

499
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wow you're really not going to help me out here this is what they do they stare blankly i see what invoice Linus i

500
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didn't pick up what you're throwing down anyway the point is you'll know that they saw it and if you have questions

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505
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i think you just owned the ears of uh the viewers

506
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thank you for that i don't have a choice

507
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,800
all right what topic do you want to do next

508
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,520
oh my oh can we do this one

509
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:34,720
okay i'm sorry okay but the thing is only part of this is news

510
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:38,640
all right fine we'll do your stupid ps5 thing no this is good i didn't want to talk about this no i'm already i'm

511
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:42,720
already screen sharing the original article here from express.co.uk ps5

512
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:48,079
rumors are it might come out this christmas a lot of people think those rumors are dumb so this started on a

513
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,640
website uh called what is it called the

514
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:56,800
situation or we're gonna have to stop calling you lazy semi accurate we're gonna have to

515
00:35:55,359 --> 00:36:00,800
go with we're gonna have to go with savage james

516
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:05,839
here have some savage jerky that was savage uh okay so i actually

517
00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:10,480
this this website has a great name in this context semiaccurate.com

518
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:15,839
behind a one thousand dollar per year paywall or 100 a year for students this

519
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:19,680
website published an article with allegedly legit information claiming

520
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:23,440
that the playstation 5 was going to come out this holiday season which is a lot

521
00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:27,599
sooner than people would think considering that the ps4 pro came out

522
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:31,200
only two years ago and the ps4 itself only came out five years ago and when

523
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,880
traditionally the launch cycles of these things have been

524
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,680
about seven years between the three and four

525
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,880
uh so people think that you can

526
00:36:39,359 --> 00:36:45,119
sony can make a lot more money off the ps4 pro still

527
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,920
the like that can become the de facto like normal default playstation for

528
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:52,560
people and they can start to push the price down to like 250 bucks they don't

529
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:57,839
need to release the new playstation just yet

530
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:59,359
ps4 pro was two years ago

531
00:36:57,839 --> 00:37:03,520
yeah bro see the older you get the faster time

532
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:07,040
goes what because each year of your life is a

533
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:12,079
smaller proportion of your life no it was a year and a half

534
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:16,720
huh okay oh okay i should have written the months in

535
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:20,720
oh okay no no but by the time this launched in the at christmas it would be

536
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:24,000
two years oh i see your point okay okay okay

537
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:27,920
so here's okay do you want to go through the

538
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:31,680
rumored specs first sure it's gonna be AMD again the

539
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,560
platform like the architecture is navi it's gonna be eight cores and i actually

540
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:40,880
have a question about that if we get to it yeah it's gonna have a strong emphasis on vr support

541
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,760
that some discussion there you know they have to make certain considerations and

542
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:48,320
decisions uh to include that and maybe no one

543
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:52,320
cares but maybe no one cares if there's no good vr yet and this is a chicken and

544
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:57,040
egg thing they did recently drop the price of the psvr

545
00:37:54,240 --> 00:38:02,720
but i i don't know what my understanding is that the psvr is the best-selling

546
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:04,240
gaming uh vr headset but i also don't

547
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:09,440
know if that's meeting sony's expectations in terms of how many they

548
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:12,720
have to sell in order to support it it's uh i think at this point it's a

549
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:16,880
rising tide lifts all boats thing with vr

550
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:20,079
it's a setup for future profits uh what else do we know about this thing we know

551
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,119
that the CPU would be rumored to be zen based although

552
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:28,560
we could pretty much take for granted that any future custom soc that AMD would

553
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:32,960
produce for whether it's microsoft or sony would hopefully be zen based at

554
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:39,520
this point so here's my question and again noob question maybe

555
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:42,240
on the pc in the realm of pc gaming

556
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:46,640
prior to ryzen and coffee lake for sure single threaded all the games and

557
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:50,880
engines and all that apis are optimized for single threaded right

558
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:56,240
so depends mostly

559
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,119
strongly it strongly depends so some of them

560
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:04,560
basically since we started getting dual cores which

561
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:09,440
was actually uh a really long time ago now

562
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:14,400
which is sort of terrible at least 10 years more than that yeah you're in

563
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:17,119
laptops 10 years ago q6600 i remember buying

564
00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:21,040
our q 6600 engineering sample

565
00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:23,839
which technically you're neither supposed to buy nor sell

566
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:29,359
um from my old boss at ncix

567
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:32,560
back in 2007. so yes

568
00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:34,560
quad core and that was a like 600 700

569
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:40,560
CPU so that was like the first non-extreme edition quad core

570
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:44,960
but certainly not mainstream yet dennis just walked by with an eggplant so we've

571
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:44,960
got

572
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:53,839
that so we've had quad cores on the desktop

573
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:58,880
for 10 years and that chip later dropped in price i think probably about

574
00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:05,520
eight months to eight to 12 months later and became far more accessible

575
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,359
so ever since then we have seen an

576
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:11,520
onward march towards supporting more cores now in the early days the support

577
00:40:09,359 --> 00:40:16,960
was fairly rudimentary like you would have one core dedicated to like

578
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:22,079
mostly the entire game and then you'd have another one that handled

579
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:24,960
like maybe enemy ai like like like one

580
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:28,079
thing okay it'd be offloaded but over time they got

581
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:33,839
to supporting more and more and more threads natively and i believe crisis

582
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:36,160
three supports something like four

583
00:40:33,839 --> 00:40:40,800
well the why is it then when ryzen came out and it had all these cores

584
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:44,640
everyone was stoked on it and in theory the performance should

585
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:48,320
be a lot of these Intel skus it didn't and it was because we had to

586
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:52,320
wait for the game developers to optimize their games and the apis for quality

587
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:56,160
core okay so there were a couple of things that happened um first of all

588
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:59,760
a lot of the things that people were excited about with ryzen and about

589
00:40:57,839 --> 00:41:04,560
multi-core on ryzen well actually i think it's mainly two things one is that

590
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:10,240
AMD depending on how you look at it

591
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:13,200
and it's complicated but AMD wasn't that

592
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:18,960
far behind Intel for gaming in a from a certain point of view as

593
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,880
obi-wan might put it um because at the

594
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,960
resolutions that you would be likely to run games at so higher resolution with

595
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:30,960
higher details you'd be more likely to hit a GPU bottleneck than a CPU one

596
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,319
so in that sense AMD cpus weren't that

597
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,920
far off unless you did want to turn down your

598
00:41:34,319 --> 00:41:40,400
details to get higher frame rates because you were a competitive player

599
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,599
or unless you were um

600
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:47,520
you cared about your power consumption because they did consume a lot more

601
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:51,359
power before zen or if you wanted more up-to-date

602
00:41:49,359 --> 00:41:55,440
features on the platform because by the end of it like those boards were looking

603
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,560
pretty dated in terms of their feature sets so there were lots of other things

604
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,760
let me fully actually finish the question the final clause of

605
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:06,880
the question is given that in the pc side

606
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:11,520
it's so weird that in the comp console side you've got these

607
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:15,040
multi-core AMD chips like ruling the roost on like all

608
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:20,800
the consoles so are game developers taking different

609
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:24,160
approaches on console and pc so okay

610
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,160
so

611
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,880
back to your question the things people were excited about AMD having better

612
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:34,720
single threaded performance for gaming and AMD having multi-threaded

613
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,160
performance for other workloads and also to put pressure

614
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:42,319
on Intel because that's what Intel did right they

615
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:46,720
launched quad core on the desktop back in like 2006

616
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:51,119
and it was quad core on the desktop up until

617
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,240
2000 and in one six

618
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:57,839
that was pretty much it unless you wanted to sprint there were six there were six core AMD

619
00:42:56,079 --> 00:43:01,920
cpus and like two no but i mean on the Intel side yeah yeah okay the thing about those six core AMD processors

620
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:06,000
though is that they didn't threaten Intel even with six cores they weren't

621
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,480
competitive with Intel's own quad cores that they could turn out so it didn't so

622
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:14,800
it wasn't really relevant and they sucked more power they didn't overclock there was there was a bunch of things so

623
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:19,760
people were excited because zen would bring more competition to the

624
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:24,880
market now getting back to AMD's previous course not necessarily being

625
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:29,440
that underpowered for gaming well that's what you're seeing on the game consoles

626
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:33,040
so because the game developers know exactly what hardware they're optimizing

627
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:36,800
for they can go okay we're gonna have exactly this oh right

628
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:40,720
the other issue with zen performance on the desktop in games was actually more

629
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:46,000
software and firmware related there were scheduler issues with Windows um and

630
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:52,000
there were i mean any new CPU it's kind of like why i put um

631
00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:55,520
uh what was the what was the not set of the

632
00:43:52,839 --> 00:43:59,839
6950xs in the editing machines like three weeks before the new 18 core

633
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,640
flagship came out the reason is that anytime you have a new CPU launch

634
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:07,119
whether it's AMD or Intel and particularly on this last round where

635
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:10,960
both amt and Intel were guilty of pulling up their launches

636
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:15,119
just to like just to have something out there and them being not quite 100

637
00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:18,480
polished anytime you have a new CPU you're gonna

638
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:23,280
have some some issues and um that was a big part of what affected

639
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:28,160
gaming performance on the desktop and sometimes game developers did have to

640
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:31,839
optimize because even though it's x86

641
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:33,760
it's it's not like a new CPU is just

642
00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:36,720
the old CPU but like with a trogdor

643
00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:43,839
like it's actually different

644
00:44:41,839 --> 00:44:47,119
and so if you gave even a let's say you gave a professional driver

645
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,560
um and i don't i don't know cars but so

646
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:56,880
you'll have to forgive me but let's say you gave them a bugatti and a

647
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:59,599
lamborghini a some model x and y and you

648
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:03,040
were like okay get the best track time on this track

649
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,319
it would take them a little while if they switched from this one to that one

650
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:11,520
to learn the best way to do it even if this one was more powerful like they are

651
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,839
they're div they're different machines so

652
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:17,599
coming back to consoles this has been a very sort of winding topic here um

653
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:22,960
they know exactly what they're optimizing for they don't have to make any guesses

654
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:26,079
and they are going to run the game in such a way and they're

655
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:31,599
going to optimize the game in such a way that you aren't going to run out of CPU resources also by the end of AMD's

656
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,760
non-zen course while the performance wasn't great their power efficiency was

657
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:39,359
getting a lot better so they take this good power efficiency

658
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:43,520
and they've got four kind of like good enough cores and they've got developers

659
00:45:41,839 --> 00:45:46,880
who know that they can split it up exactly in this way because it's going

660
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:50,880
to run on four course there's not going to be some yahoo out there running a

661
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:55,119
dual core because Intel still has dual cores for some reason

662
00:45:54,240 --> 00:46:00,480
um and they can and they can split it up that way to make the best possible use

663
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:03,520
of the quad core and then the GPU well they can push the game's visual effects

664
00:46:02,319 --> 00:46:08,720
to the max so that they can run into a GPU bottleneck rather than a CPU one also

665
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:13,119
it's a console it's gonna run on a tv it doesn't have to run higher than 60fps

666
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:16,880
anyway cool i get it there's the long the very very long answer hopefully that

667
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:22,319
was finished you're bacon you've been well so good talking with your hands way

668
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:24,640
too much to still be holding that

669
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:28,880
bacon so please and now to circle all the way back to the beginning

670
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:34,960
in your opinion is the ps5 coming out in 2018

671
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,720
even if it's december 31st

672
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:41,599
okay consider that when the ps4 i think was it pro

673
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:47,599
came out which it was it was either the pro or the ps4 it came out in november and we

674
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:50,640
knew about it february of that year if this is going to come out on the

675
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:53,920
holiday april yep yeah we're two months beyond that this now it probably would

676
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:58,720
be launching in november if they're trying to make the holiday yeah

677
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:02,640
so that's a short media window to get the media hype running so do you think

678
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:06,400
it's coming out this year so normally i would say absolutely not and the reason

679
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:11,440
is that up until now every playstation

680
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:17,040
whether it was emotion or whether it was cell or whether it was a move to jaguar

681
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:22,960
every playstation has been architecturally dramatically different

682
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:27,200
totally different so if you told me in april there's a

683
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,720
playstation coming in november i'd tell you to go take a long walk off a short

684
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:35,920
pier because you're an idiot because there's no way that in what what does

685
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:39,760
that work out to seven months there's no way that in seven months

686
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:44,800
anyone is going to have launch titles ready because they're going to have to

687
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,079
completely re like recode aspects of

688
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,200
these games in order to run on this new machine the developer things are already

689
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:54,400
out there okay that is known okay so that we know but

690
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:57,359
even then like i'm saying there's still no way that seven months would be even

691
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,319
close like a modern triple a game remember you can't launch a console

692
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,760
without uh unless you're nintendo

693
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:10,319
at least a couple triple a tier games

694
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:14,560
and those take literally years to develop and it's not going to be

695
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:19,359
it's not going to be good enough to just take some existing titles and go now at

696
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:23,839
you know 4k with better details or whatever else if if people were really

697
00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:28,800
into that they'd go buy a pc however because a playstation 5 would be

698
00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:34,079
just playstation 4 on steroids

699
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:39,359
with zen course which is going to make a big difference that's going to be like

700
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:42,000
really nice and then presumably and it

701
00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:46,079
says navi based graphics which would be again very nice remember this is not

702
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,480
vega this is a new architecture past vega

703
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:54,800
um because it would be just like that on steroids new architectures but much more

704
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:58,880
powerful ones but still fundamentally x86 and uh

705
00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:05,359
crap what does AMD call their thing again so what you're saying is a gcn it's kind

706
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:07,359
of like psccn anymore

707
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:11,599
anyway you're saying it's kind of like ps4 pro pro

708
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:15,040
yeah like but way more pro because the ps4 pro relied on crossfire which was a

709
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,880
bad approach um i think actually your theory we might

710
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:24,000
have some credence given that one of the other leaked bullet points here is that

711
00:49:21,839 --> 00:49:29,040
the ps5 would be backwards compatible with ps4 pro titles why not

712
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:32,880
yeah it might as well be right because it's

713
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,440
fundamentally pretty similar in terms of the hardware

714
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:40,800
and so you've got you go you go

715
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:44,960
this site semi-accurate um you haven't heard of it apparently but

716
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:49,040
i've been following charlie i don't remember how to pronounce dimerajin jim

717
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:54,640
murray jane whatever charlie i've been following charlie since about

718
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:58,480
2002 back when he used to work at the inquirer

719
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:06,160
um not the national enquirer the enquirer and back then the inquirer was

720
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:10,839
the bomb for industry leaks they they do have a track record of of being

721
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:15,760
prescient and accurately leaking specifically console related

722
00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:21,359
leaks in the past now i've been wrong a couple times with something i can suggest why that might be

723
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:24,559
um see okay

724
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:28,800
and it makes me a little uncomfortable because i've never really talked to

725
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:32,960
charlie much so i don't want to like talk about him when i don't actually

726
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:38,480
know him that well but what i can say is that i do know that i've never seen him

727
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:41,599
at an industry event that isn't an AMD one

728
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:46,880
okay so what i can

729
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:50,240
extrapolate from that particular data point

730
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:57,440
is that if AMD talks to him and no one else does

731
00:50:53,839 --> 00:50:58,960
and he gets industry information somehow

732
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:02,720
okay that maybe he's getting his information from

733
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:10,000
that's pretty interesting contacts at AMD and if he would be if he has a track

734
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:10,960
record of leaking console news

735
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:17,440
which AMD has their hardware in up until the

736
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:18,480
switch had their hardware in all three

737
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:23,280
um that would align with my guesses as to

738
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:26,880
where his sources might be from

739
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:31,119
so that to me adds some credibility because over the

740
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:34,839
years charlie has taken a lot of flack for saying a lot of stuff that didn't

741
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:40,400
turn out to be true but

742
00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:42,480
as a reader of his over the years who

743
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:48,079
you know takes rumors with the grain of salt you pay the thousand dollars a year

744
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:50,480
no okay no i i i i read before

745
00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:54,079
i read before he put up the paywall so but as someone who's kind of paid

746
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:58,160
attention to his career he's been right enough that if you read with the

747
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:02,079
grain of salt that you should take rumors with in the first place and he

748
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:06,800
called the site semi accurate i mean what more do you want um

749
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:09,760
he's offered a lot of insight over the years

750
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:14,960
that's what all that's what i'll say so all right i'm not saying yeah there's

751
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:19,040
gonna be a ps5 but i would suggest that

752
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:21,440
this might be why um sony hasn't had a

753
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:24,319
response to the xbox one x yet and

754
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:30,000
this might have been a good move for them to let microsoft launch the one x a few

755
00:52:27,839 --> 00:52:34,480
months ago and then say okay you know what we're gonna miss out on having the

756
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:39,359
crown for like a year but realistically microsoft can't run out

757
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:41,599
and release a new xbox again

758
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:47,280
so we're giving up this year now of console

759
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:51,440
you know thrown them but we should have a year or maybe more than that afterward

760
00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:56,000
while microsoft responds yeah they want to wait until the ps4 pro sales have

761
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:59,920
peaked and are starting to taper off but also enough time

762
00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:05,440
so people through some people who bought a ps4 pro

763
00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:06,880
will also buy a ps5 at launch

764
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:10,960
obviously not everyone's gonna do that another major factor is that they're

765
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:14,720
they're at AMD's mercy here they can't release a faster console until AMD

766
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,520
releases a faster freaking piece of hardware

767
00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:22,559
so that custom soc design process takes

768
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:26,319
time and you can't start that process until

769
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:31,839
the individual components of it so both the CPU and GPU are at least somewhat

770
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:36,800
finalized so this that looks i mean that timeline sounds not that you know what

771
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:39,760
the more we talk about this i'm going with it

772
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:44,800
ps5 this q4 it's on put your balls on the

773
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:48,960
table there you go bet something um so the bet would be either it's coming

774
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:52,480
out holiday season or it's being announced at e3

775
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:57,359
next june um or i guess this june yeah i don't

776
00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:01,280
know i'm gonna say i'm gonna say it's coming holiday season i don't know exactly how

777
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,640
they're gonna handle the hype leading up to the release but you know what i'm in

778
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:08,160
when are they gonna announce it they can't wait till e3 at june that's could

779
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:12,960
they yeah they could yeah that gives them like a few months do they need to announce it at a conference or or an

780
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:16,559
event or can they just launch it more and more companies excuse

781
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,760
me i mean announce it microsoft did this for the xbox one

782
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:23,119
more and more companies are just doing an apple style

783
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,760
uh like conference they're just doing you know what

784
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:28,880
forget it we're not going to announce things at ces or computex or e3 or

785
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:34,240
whatever we'll do our world of our own party but they do it apple does it at their own conference every year exactly

786
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:37,119
but does sony have one of those um i don't know if sony's done that but more

787
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,160
and more companies are trying to do this so yeah let's find out

788
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:45,599
maybe they maybe they'll just do their own thing

789
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:48,000
i'm seeing ces 73

790
00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:52,559
you never know wc speaking of things you never know you never know when big

791
00:54:50,319 --> 00:54:56,000
brother is watching the original article here is from cnet sorry for the abrupt

792
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:59,440
change in topics but i really want to cover this and it's like 20 after six

793
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,640
already and i really want to talk about this

794
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:08,559
i am going to shenzhen on monday

795
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:14,960
so an ai company that works with shenzhen police is creating a system

796
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:17,440
that will use cctv cameras to identify

797
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:20,720
jaywalkers and send them a fine via a messaging app

798
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:27,680
okay so full disclosure here that's cnet articles from july 2017

799
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,480
because this is the fact that people's uh are getting

800
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:34,720
in trouble like their faces are being projected onto a giant billboard in real

801
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:39,200
time because these facial recognition equipped cameras are watching them

802
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:44,559
jaywalk that's old news that that's been since last summer the new

803
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:46,640
update now is that if that happens to

804
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:50,880
you you might just get an sms that's like here's your fine bud click through

805
00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:55,040
and pay it could be sms could be in wechat which is

806
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:58,880
i guess guess compared to chinese whatsapp

807
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:03,599
so over 10 months ending in february of this year these boards that they created

808
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:08,720
displayed thirteen thousand nine hundred and thirty jaywalker faces

809
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:12,400
it's like a like a public shaming thing yeah well apparently jaywalking is a

810
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:16,240
bigger deal in china than it is over here i can kind of see that there's more

811
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:21,359
people they have a different attitude both the pedestrians have a different

812
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:23,359
attitude to the law according to chinese

813
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:28,720
political party opinion anyway and drivers have a different standpoint to

814
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:30,880
pedestrian right of way apparently

815
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:34,799
i saw there's studies where in germany you might only wait 60 seconds to cross

816
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:37,440
the road but in china it might be 90 seconds and that's longer than people

817
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:42,160
who need to wait and even when it's their turn the drivers might still just

818
00:56:39,839 --> 00:56:46,960
drop like not respect their right-of-way anyway so there's a lot of jaywalking

819
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:50,960
and presumably because of the number of people there there's it causes a lot of

820
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:54,480
traffic and bottlenecks so there's a high incentive for for the government to

821
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:58,480
try to work this out so one of the ways they'll de-incentivize people to jaywalk

822
00:56:56,799 --> 00:57:02,400
is by socially shaming them putting their face and their family name by the

823
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:08,960
way up on a giant billboard that you can see um and now i guess they're attaching

824
00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:10,480
a monetary incentive or de-incentive on

825
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:14,480
that as well i mean this is just so apparently only about 10 of the

826
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:18,960
population can be identified by the city or by the system in the city of shenzhen

827
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:24,880
but if you consider that they're already working with

828
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:29,839
third parties like these chat applications to deliver fines presumably

829
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:35,119
they could work with third parties like um

830
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:38,720
crap what's their uh what's their amazon alibaba like they could work with

831
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:43,760
alibaba aliexpress is is part is like yeah but

832
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:46,319
alibaba is like to contact manufacturers not to just buy stuff right you're right

833
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:54,440
um so they could work with um wait hold on a second

834
00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:54,440
oh where's he going

835
00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:01,359
alibaba group chinese multinational yeah no alibaba

836
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:06,559
group not like alibaba.com necessarily okay um anyway so the point is that they

837
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:10,960
could work with companies like that that have or they could work with um

838
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:14,640
chinese phone manufacturers for example that

839
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:19,520
i'm not going to say who or what they're doing now but have been known in the

840
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:23,440
past to put you know back doors on phones and or share information with the

841
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:27,119
chinese government so they could work with these groups

842
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:32,160
to make the facial recognition just one part of how they identify you so they

843
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:36,880
could monitor where you go what you buy uh who you spend your time with and they

844
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:40,960
could use all of these things to augment their facial recognition technology so

845
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:44,880
that they could actually make a very very good guess

846
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:48,880
as to who you are even if they don't get a

847
00:58:47,359 --> 00:58:54,559
perfect look at your face and where you are they can track you while you're driving your car exactly there are

848
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,880
apparently 600 million cctv cameras in china

849
00:58:55,599 --> 00:59:00,960
it's like it's getting to full-on surveillance state

850
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:05,680
and some of these things are positive like there's there's benefits from it um

851
00:59:03,599 --> 00:59:09,359
you can go to certain airports in china and be and not have a boarding pass it's

852
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:14,000
all facial recognition your hands are full of your bags you just walk by the

853
00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:19,200
fl the attendant as you go into the plane like that's pretty sweet wow

854
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:23,280
maybe they'll get to do that if you're in an airport that has that you should make a video

855
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:29,040
there's no way i would be able to do it because oh yeah yeah that doesn't make any sense in fact the reason why only 10

856
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:34,559
of the population of shenzhen uh gets their faces recognized is because

857
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:37,599
i presumably it's like the database of all the different provinces isn't

858
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:42,799
integrated so if you live in shenzhen but you're from a different province then they just don't have your record

859
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,520
available so that's why they think that the number

860
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:50,240
of people who will be susceptible to this tech should

861
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:54,000
go up dramatically once they do get a more broadly based system

862
00:59:52,319 --> 00:59:58,880
in the future all right last topic for the day because

863
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:02,640
we are not going to stop harping on this at least until you guys get bored of it

864
01:00:03,359 --> 01:00:08,720
more GeForce partner program news

865
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:12,079
ASUS to ares

866
01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:15,440
is it just me or does that sound like kind of like a spanish i'm actually

867
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:19,280
trying to figure out if it's supposed to be like aries

868
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:24,400
well aries used to be they had aries before with an s on the end what they

869
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:26,240
called their rog AMD based cards so it

870
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:29,040
was at the at the very high end they had mars on the NVIDIA well maybe that's

871
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:36,000
intentional because they're not allowed to say rog anymore they're still saying strix

872
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:40,480
so maybe people will remember that aries was rog because

873
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:44,319
losing rog hurts man like people consumers know what rog is and they want

874
01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:49,520
to buy it which is still bizarre to me because i still remember being just like

875
01:00:46,319 --> 01:00:51,359
baffled and angered by the original

876
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:54,720
implementation of that branding i was just like this is so stupid what does

877
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:59,280
republic of gamers even mean what is this like a place where all the gamers

878
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,040
live you've never been it smells weird but it's pretty dope

879
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,799
there

880
01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:10,720
that's what we need as a new sponsor like a deodorant product people's

881
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:15,280
republic the sales pitch writes itself it's like too busy gaming to shower

882
01:01:13,359 --> 01:01:18,160
just use this spray no problem

883
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:25,119
at least for a little while eventually you'll have a problem um

884
01:01:21,359 --> 01:01:28,000
so heuristics ASUS rog strix turns into

885
01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:32,640
ares or ares strix ASUS dual tunes into

886
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:36,720
rs dual ASUS expedition which i've never even

887
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:41,200
heard of before turns into rs expedition it's way out there so not only

888
01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:46,240
do we appear to be losing

889
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:50,799
rog branding it looks like they aren't even putting a seuss branding on the

890
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:56,400
cards that that weirds me out a little bit

891
01:01:54,079 --> 01:02:00,160
isn't that a maybe like at what point is somebody going to leak this freaking

892
01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:05,119
agreement so that we can have a look at it because i'll tell you usually 99 of the time

893
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:10,559
when like you know some controversial document gets leaked or

894
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:14,240
whatever i'll like read a bunch of articles kind of figure out what the

895
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:17,760
consensus is and go okay yeah or i might i might read a couple of paragraphs of

896
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:21,920
the thing if if the GeForce partner program leaked i would read the whole

897
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:25,599
thing like multiple times i i want i want to understand i don't just want to

898
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:29,839
see what's in there i want to understand what's in there because this sounds like

899
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:33,680
a scary freaking document well in the original uh

900
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:38,000
what's the site that leaked it hard ocp right in that original blog post

901
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:44,000
or article he uh

902
01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:44,000
wondered if it was actually legal

903
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:50,079
i don't know man me too

904
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,960
so thanks for watching guys uh see you again next week same bad time same bad

905
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,720
channel so much bacon maybe different co-hosts

906
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:02,640
no no no no hold on no hold on no hold

907
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:06,880
up hold on a minute that time variable co-host well i meant were you looking at

908
01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:09,359
the dates of packs no no no we're gonna we're gonna straw pull this we're gonna

909
01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:13,040
drop all this james okay

910
01:03:11,839 --> 01:03:16,319
good job

911
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:21,200
all right let's go let's get some options in here yes

912
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:25,280
no donkey balls oh

913
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:29,839
i'm gonna log in and vote donkey ball create this pole here come on you guys

914
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:34,799
you gotta let us know do you really want a new co-host next week

915
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:39,599
i guess i ignored the possibility that the new co-host being replaced would be

916
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:42,160
me because i'm traveling next week so oh yeah

917
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:46,080
some people have said that luke james is their favorite combo

918
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:49,119
well it was my mom

919
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:54,720
she's biased oh

920
01:03:52,319 --> 01:03:58,319
terrible hey more donkey balls than nose come on donkey balls let's get it let's

921
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:03,440
get our act together here that's a win i want to see some more donkey ball

922
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:07,359
that's what the poster on your office door is about

923
01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:13,839
donkey balls inside well i don't need the whole donkey for that wait

924
01:04:09,359 --> 01:04:13,839
Linus likes donkey balls james donkey

925
01:04:14,319 --> 01:04:17,599
and we'll see you again next week

926
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:26,520
good show most people said good job cool 51 so it's like a very narrow mouse

927
01:04:28,799 --> 01:04:35,440
that was a good show that was fun it felt uh smooth

928
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,920
no we're still live right that's good

929
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:45,359
i felt smooth buttery savage jerky smooth like honey

930
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,359
three xbox number four

931
01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:50,240
sriracha
