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ever since AMD released their massive manycore threadripper processors

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enthusiasts have been chomping at the bit for an itx small form factor

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solution where they could pack as many cores as possible into a tiny case like

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this one and guess what ladies and gentlemen today we finally got it sort

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of technically this motherboard comes from asrock's server division asrock

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rack and is compatible with AMD epic cpus but that doesn't change the fact

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that we're gonna build a sick freaking

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gaming rig with it with an rtx 3090

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graphics card 128 gigabytes of memory and 64

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processing cores all in this tiny little thing right here it's gonna overheat

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to start with the main advantage of threadripper over epic because they're

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both available in up to 64 core configurations is that aside from the

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lower price you'll actually tend to get better performance in desktop or

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workstation applications because AMD was more willing to go ham on the power

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consumption of a desktop slash enthusiast chip compared to well

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something that's supposed to be super power efficient for the data center it's

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also overclocking capable as for epic's advantages well they are several this

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puppy has 128 lanes of pci express gen 4

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connectivity up to octo channel instead of just quad channel memory and it's got

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support for up to four terabytes of registered ecc memory

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none of which we will be taking advantage of today because this board

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only has four memory slots so we'll be running quad channel it only has a

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single pci express 16x slot so we won't be using all 128 lanes and well you

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can't buy one terabyte memory modules yet so or ever you could do 256. you

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could do a terabyte total you could do a terabyte total but we're not doing that

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of course sometimes your choices are dictated by a lack of better options and

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since there are no itx motherboards for threadripper we are going epic today

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although it should be noted that this is not strictly speaking quite an itx

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motherboard see that it does only have one pci express slot like an itx

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motherboard and a standard atx style i o

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but it's actually a touch wider so this is a completely non-standard what do

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they call it deep its proprietary deep bytes proprietary d5 tx the good news is

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that we did manage to find cases that happen to be compatible with it sort of

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after some modification even with the extra width though asrock had to make a

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lot of stars online in order to make this happen so first one of the main

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reasons that threadripper mini itx boards don't exist is that threadripper

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requires an external chipset on the motherboard for certain functionality

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like say to raid epic by contrast just doesn't support it

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at all so there's no need for an outside chipset another compromise they made was

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having very little i o so while we do have built-in dual 10 gigabit network

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ports and that's freaking awesome because we'd have nowhere to put a

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network card on this thing other than that we get vga out we get a i believe

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this is a power button we get a management network port and two usb 3

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ports we don't even have any additional usb 3 headers on the board

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here's another fun one the board uses atx 12 volt power only look at that

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there's no 24 pin connector there was no freaking space for it which

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isn't to say that it doesn't still have some cool connectivity all of these

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slimline ports over here these four are pci express gen 4 8x if we were to plug

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them into like say for example u.2 NVMe

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drives although we can't use them for anything that requires power from the

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board because we've only got this single four pin power input for them and then

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these ones up here can actually run either pci express gen 4x8 or SATA if

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you want to hook up a bunch of SATA drives this thing is so freaking cool

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it's so dense too like even the back of the board is as covered with components

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as the front of like a normal gaming board would be i guess another more

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indirect advantage of threadripper is that you can get much higher speed

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memory for it because you can run unbuffered dimms

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these 3200 megahertz cl22 modules are

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about as fast as you can really go with epic and cl22 yeah that really ain't

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that great for the best performance on zen 2 i

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would want to be running more like 3200 cl 15

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but it's ecc so of course you have error checking and correction so that's that's

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good for reliability that's funny i went to install our eight

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terabyte because this video is all about massive numbers

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here eight terabyte saver m.2 drive and i realized this motherboard doesn't come

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with a screw for it but it does come with some screwy accessories

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so you got your standard i o shield and then you got this trippy thing

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look at this this is a four pin power connector to

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six SATA power so that's that hard drive

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uh plug thing that i showed you guys before and then it also has a 24 pin to

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four pin adapter for the 12 volt only power that goes into the motherboard

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crazy now that that's built up we can turn our attention to our case

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this is the sugo 15 from silverstone it

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ain't cheap but it's really cool it's

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highly configurable so you can either set it up for tons of storage or for

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tons of air cooling or for tons of water cooling it all comes down to your

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personal preference for us we're going with a mixture we don't really need any

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storage but we need both a big air

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cooler on our CPU and a water cooling

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radiator for our GPU one thing you might have noticed is that

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Jake did a little drill out rivet thing here so this used

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to be in here as like a support or something and a two and a half inch

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drive mount yeah we don't have room for that because we got to put a big old

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what is it deep deep itx board in this thing it's really

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nice that we're able to put a full sized atx power supply in here because

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otherwise i don't know how we would handle the power spikes that come from

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well our tx 3090 graphics here we go

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um question for you Jake there it goes

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there's a thing you have to remove oh yeah i was going to ask about that

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there's a screw on the bottom doesn't come out it's a screw on the bottom well how do you get the screw on the box oh

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wow there's a there's a removable bottom panel on this case that is so cool just

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one screw and then it slides out yeah

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there's our GPU support out of the way this thing can handle up to a triple

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slot graphics card it's pretty sweet where's the uh mounting hardware for

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this ah now for our power supply it's

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standard atx in terms of like how it screws into the case but what's special

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about it is its depth or rather lack thereof it's a 1200 watt power supply 80

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plus platinum efficiency but this thing is like only as deep as a 120 millimeter

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fan pretty much so that is what allows

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it to fit in here

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oh hold on kind of kind of hangs down from

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the top you know what i'm saying actually oh you know what

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there's pretty easy access to everything i love this punch out on the bottom just

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realized that too so you can reach your modular power supply interface you're

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kind of worried about it but super easy now we got to make a small configuration

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change to our case here this rear 120 millimeter fan would be fine if we were

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doing something slightly less power hungry but

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we want to turn it around to act as an intake so that our CPU is getting fresh

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air rather than the preheated air that's going to come from our radiator for the

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graphics card so we're using a slim dual 120mm radiator from

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xspc we just grabbed whatever was on the shelf it happened to be

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super mondo slim and then because we know that we don't have a ton of surface

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area we're going with some pretty ball and fans Noctua industrial ppc 3000 RPM

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fans to be clear i'm not expecting to run these at maximum speed all the time

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it's just hey they have the potential to ramp up

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if we really need to so we want it kind of

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kind of right about kind of um just put it on loosely and just right

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there man this is a really tight fit wait not

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a very well designed bracket i think it's not meant to have the fans on that

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side but whatever yeah we're bringing sexy back you know Jake i do wish we had

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shorter cables for this yeah

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that's all you're getting in fairness to him i think i assigned this project to

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him yesterday uh so let's plug in the wonko adapter

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now that goes there it feels unnatural to me

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that this is it these four wires are motherboard powered it's also kind of

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ugly uh Jake hi did you check if the 24

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pin fits i'm up against one of those mini pcies okay i'm gonna flex it oh

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isn't it it's in doesn't get much closer than that it's

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tight it is right against the motherboard it is putting pressure on

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the motherboard just don't screw the motherboard in we don't even need it now let the

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desert enough space to like bend it though these cables are pretty flexible

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i think we're good i mean there's only like two things left to put in so you'll

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have to pardon the construction noises they basically told me look do you want

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it done fast or do you want it done quiet and i was like fast so that's what

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we're dealing with what the heck is going on here no problem this is not the

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best cable management that i have ever done now i kind of wish that the GPU was

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a bit longer actually no that's where the pump's gonna go

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oh yeah that's right oh yeah that's right oh crap how are we going to get

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that in there i didn't really want to get the drill out but maybe we could get

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the drill out maybe we're just going to kind of RAM it in like this

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drill four holes on the bottom and boom

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it's attached oh man this like

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window thing in the bottom here so you can access the bottom of the power

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supply is amazing looks pretty dope next

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up we're going to put in one of my favorite coolers this is the nhu12s tr4

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sp3 and it's one of the only coolers on the market that was specifically

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engineered for threadripper and by extension epic just anything with a lot

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of ccx's spread out over an incredibly large area and what's so cool about this

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one is it's got this feature that allows you to offset the mount so you can see

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we've moved it what is it like six millimeters or something like that

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just a little bit now it's intended to help with pci express slot clearance

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what we're using it to help with is clearance for our tubing to run over

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here to the graphics card so you can see right

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like that

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that is how our tubes are going to come through now it's time for some epic

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thermal paste application here i just do dots all over there we go oh so tidy

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good job Linus wait no i don't want this in just yet i want

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to run my tubing first yeah yeah oh dang it now i've got thermal goop all

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in the way looks like we're going to have just enough clearance to tighten

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these collars down that is really close

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so this will just chill here that there we go

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oh no problem everything is so tight it's a good thing

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we're using like uh like a nice robust

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tubing because otherwise sharp fins on it over time i wouldn't be too happy

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about literally touching the fins once i have this screwed in oh man

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i'll throw the GPU in from oh i didn't run power for the GPU this

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is a sweet rtx 3090 so it's actually

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using not like the founders board but the reference board so it's like

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freaking tiny it's water cooled by ek

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water blocks this is a product ASUS actually sells like pre-water cooled

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with an ek block on it and you only need two standard eight pin power connectors

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and it's like single slot at the back which is sick because a lot of the time

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even if you get a single slot water block on your graphics card you're still

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stuck taking up two slots at the back because the uh the i o is on the other

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side so here you got three display ports single HDMI back plate oh

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there's thermal paste on the back of it i'll use my shirt to clean it

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lttstore.com so this puppy's gonna go

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oh man there's a plate in them in my way look at the i o shield i know there's

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nothing on it wait that's where the thermal paste is coming

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from it's coming from my hand it's on everything ah

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okay RGB just get just get there

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yeah you remember when i said now i kind of wish that the GPU was a bit longer

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yeah not a problem there we go oh

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yeah why tubing time so this goes right

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there it's going to be a little tough to screw

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in but actually not that bad like the loop itself is pretty well thought out

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good work Jake ah yeah i can't even get you a view of this sandy this is just

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too tight that's what she said oh yeah

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did you get it in oh yeah it's in

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look at that that is

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this fan spin oh yes oh good okay is it fit oh yeah isn't this a

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great layout easy easy last run

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i mean that's the thing about only water cooling one component in this system is

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you're only running like four tubes now what i could have wait

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why did you make that tube so i was about to explain why i made this so long

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well hold on there's a reason for it Jake it leaves room if we wanted to do

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that whole cool idea with the expansion off the slimline things for us to have

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lots of room to work to add uh pci express cards and stuff like that but

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we're not gonna do that well but now we could so let's fill it holy

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crap balls that is freaking

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tight den look at this thing this funnel's worked here longer than

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you Jake uh well okay the pump works neat wow it doesn't take a lot of water

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slim rad put the cap on and do it a tilt

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yeah for sure oh the other way it's i don't think it's gonna make a

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difference Jake that water's moving look all right should we plug a monitor in

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and yeah we should find out if it actually works right did we swamp the

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SSD did you swap the ancestors

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no putting the bottom panel on here's hoping we haven't accidentally

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interfered with any of these little nubbins that need to go into the

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oh my god do they still do this what freaking silver stone i've seen this

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i've seen 700 cases from them that are like sharpied from the factory

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because they like scratched it ew silver stone i mean it's like the inside of the

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bottom yeah it doesn't technically matter but like

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silver stone should we fire it up with no side panels

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first yeah also it might boot vga first so who knows i don't know i've got no

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num lock Jake not a good sign

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while we were troubleshooting trying to get the system on which turns out it is

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fine um i booted up the ipmi and on some

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server boards you have these really weird interfaces with like these weird

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graphs and crap that even with around with it for 10 minutes i wasn't

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really able to understand on this one you can just put it in manual mode and

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set the fan duty cycle to like a static to zero to 100

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so i figured out which one is our radiator fans

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i think maybe we'll try a 50 duty cycle yeah that would probably be hey that's

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better still a good amount of air it's really

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quiet okay here we go holy bananas that is a

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lot of course in hardware info 33.4 degrees

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and 50 degrees on the die let's fire up that task manager there it is boom also

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memory ran at 3 200 megahertz right out of the gate here we go

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cinebench r23 we're sitting at about 92

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degrees on the CPU would you put thermal paste on it i did okay 52 000 freaking

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points see you later Threadripper 32 core now

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we need to know if this thing can actually hold up in terms of thermals so

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i have gone ahead and started a 30 minute stress test and we're going to

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see where it ends up should i also hit it with fur mark oh i

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heard the fans ramp a little bit there after about 15 minutes we've settled in

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with GPU temps of about 70 degrees celsius that's with the fans running at

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half speed and CPU temps that are 66

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degrees and sort of the traditional way of measuring them and 91.6

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in the like on die way of measuring them so that is well with intolerance for

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both of those it's a lot of heat though like i can feel it from like way out

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here it's crazy but it's stable crazy stable so let's go

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ahead and shut down our stress tests and uh i mean we went and put a 30 90 in it

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we got to play some video games right i'm going for dune maternity so easy to

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run stop using doom i don't want to i like it it's so easy to run stop

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i better not be in the middle of a stupid like unskippable mission cut scene again this is this is an epic

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gamer moment if i've ever had one we're running at 55 60 FPS i actually have no

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idea what settings turn that rtx on it's basically

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cranked this cranked we got ray tracing on we're

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like all high like practically everything ray tracing on ultra turn

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motion blur off ew follow the objective dude

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oh uh okay are these bad guys they seem bad get in the limo press x press x

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press x oh i'm so i'm not supposed to perfect them x to what it heals it heals

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to be a sick video editing machine this is a sick anything machine

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i mean i don't know what anyone would actually

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thing that somebody would want right maybe with a quadro like someone yeah

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yeah you throw a quadro in here this thing's freaking incredible it's so

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quiet too and it's only like mostly expensive

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it's only got like a 10 000 CPU yeah yeah don't worry about that

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