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core processor off of a single chip in a

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single socket and guys these are not weak cores so we don't actually need

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quite that many of them for my house so we've gone with an epic 7502 p that's a

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gigahertz so we're going to be using this as well as

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wife's rig which she uses for work and also very occasionally gaming so i like

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to still keep it up to spec this one's not actually running right now because we got a

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broken Thunderbolt optical cable the gaming machine that runs the world's

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most comfortable gaming setup my nas that i use for bulk storage and as a

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plex media server and finally the home theater pc slash vr gaming rig that's in

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my living room so managing credentials between all of these different machines

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what does a machine that's powerful enough to take the place of four to five

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others look like let's walk through all the specs starting of course with the

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processor so our 7502p here it's 32

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cores 64 threads but more importantly than that it's got

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128 pci express gen 4 lanes on it that

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means that almost no matter what we plug into this thing whether it's m.2 drives

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for high speed storage or regular SATA drives or a ton of pci

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express expansion cards including graphics cards everything is going to be

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getting the full bandwidth that is absolutely incredible and all while

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consuming only 200 watts which sounds

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like a lot but remember that's gonna be four to five cpus so

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now as for what we've got it installed on this is a Gigabyte

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mz32ar0 this is one of the few standalone extended atx motherboards

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that has full support for pci express gen 4 almost across the board pun

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definitely intended it's got an incredible amount of connectivity

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including a bunch of NVMe storage regular storage seven pci express slots

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uh only two of them i think are even gen 3 which is

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unbelievable and it's got a remote management port as well as one of these

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ocp mezzanine card ports where we've got an ASUS dual 10 gigabit lan card so this

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thing is going to have high speed connectivity both in and out

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now as for our graphics cards unfortunately unless you go full

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enterprise NVIDIA doesn't currently support splitting a GPU into multiple

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virtual machines the same way that a CPU manufacturer does so we've actually got

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four total graphics cards one for each of the gaming rigs provided by NVIDIA

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and then of course ASUS rog so an rtx

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titan for my gaming rig a 2080 ti for the vr rig and then a couple 2070s for

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the ones that just need to be like basically up to spec

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finally this is amazing we have

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2666 memory from micron they sent this

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over for this project today and it's running in eight

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channel mode that means we have a ton of bandwidth each of my individual vms is

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going to have effectively dual channel ddr4 worth of memory bandwidth that is

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unfreaking believable not to mention that each one could have over 100 gigs

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of RAM by the way if you're into tons of RAM make sure you're subscribed because

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we've got a project up coming soon where we're gonna have two terabytes of RAM on

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a single epic processor now in a perfect world what we'd really

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like to do is install all of our graphics cards directly in the slots put

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water blocks on them so they only take up a single slot and you know water cool

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here we go to run the cards out of the motherboard

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like this and then we'll run our power cables a little something like this it's

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it's functional and uh you know all we need to do is plug into

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ports to our virtual machines in order to have usb 3 ports and unfortunately

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be taken up by this usb drive that we're installing our os on i'm going to be

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deploying this in the long term that is how i would end up using it just with a

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bunch of hard drives connected as well oh actually wait i forgot about the

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there we go we can use that for our os so now that our machine is assembled

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we've got all this power but we don't really have a solution for

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how to pipe it around the house so to speak now

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we used to do this with Thunderbolt back when i set up my gaming rig in the next

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room over along with my wife's but between the reliability issues with the

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Thunderbolt 2 optical cables random weirdness like displays see look at this

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sleep and the lack of especially server

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motherboards with like four or more Thunderbolt ports on them we needed

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another solution now display was easy this is a 50 foot

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light link DisplayPort connector from sewell direct that they sent over

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actually for an unrelated sponsor spot a few months ago hey these are finally

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come in handy but usb 3 was shockingly

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difficult until we found this this nondescript brown box is from icron

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technologies who are shockingly headquartered about 30 minutes from my

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house that's super cool this is the raven

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3124 usb over fiber extension and this

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is the only usb 3 extender on the market

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that uses multi-mode fiber with backwards compatibility for both usb 2

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and even usb 1. trust me guys we looked

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everywhere they have extremely low latency on the order of microseconds

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which is very important for our vr gaming setup and thanks to their

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extreme usb technology funny branding aside they can go up to

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200 meters with complete transparency

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that means no drivers and no funny business whatsoever

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the problem is that this right here is a connector

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that you are unlikely to find in the average house

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so uh colin hasn't actually said much up until

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now in this video and you're probably wondering why he's here well you're

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probably not wondering that because you haven't seen him uh he's gonna be running

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these what are these and what's special about them so these are fiber optic cables um

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we have two different ends here strictly because we want to connect them into

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these wall plates oh okay these wall plates the only option was an sc

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connector so we're taking this sc connector

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oh i broke that good thing we don't need it anymore not

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anymore and everything with fiber optics has little plugs on it because we want to

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keep these fibers really clean and so we will plug in the sc connector

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on one side of our box and then on the other side we're going to plug in the

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same sc cable and that leaves us with two lc ends and these lcns are what

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interface with our boxes and now it's as simple as that

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plug and play it's not that hard just don't break these cables they're very

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fragile and expensive and expensive they actually weren't that bad well in the

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context of how much this costs they're not that bad

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these are really cool plates where did you get these so these are data pro uh

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they're a company down in the states somewhere might be canada i can't

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remember honestly but they do custom wall plates and you can get them laser

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etched and you can get whatever you want they have a real cool configurator on

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the website you can just plug in all the ports you want and uh they even send in

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the the keystone connectors so we plug in like our fiber optic DisplayPort

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into here and then we just have a port so normal and then a normal plug so we

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just throw this Linus and Yvonne's machines we throw that in the wall there

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we just plug in normal cables bippidy off you go so this is the one for the vr

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machine and then this is the one for world's most comfortable yeah that is

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sick we're going to start with a vr system run so what challenges are we

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expecting so the hardest part of this whole ordeal is keeping these cables

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from breaking we have to be very gentle it's just a glass fiber so we're going

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to gently attach them to this fish cable and we're going to fish it

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all the way to the server room and then we're going to drop some down to the vr

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setup and then bring some all the way around to here by the way if you smell p

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around here it's because our old cats used to pee here so it's p

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so in order to get access to the wall here careful careful it's cable managed

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real tight back there so you want to just spot me while i pull it out okay

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move the speaker we good we good

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okay so to get access to the

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uh to the wall back here we're just gonna need to pull the media console out

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is that enough yeah i think so okay and what we're gonna do is we're actually

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gonna use the same wall box from the existing Ethernet run except

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this time we're gonna bring it down with fiber and DisplayPort and then we're

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going to use that usb extension which

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conveniently also has Ethernet yep pipes the right through

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to go ahead and provide Ethernet for the rest of the devices here now it's not 10

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gigs so at some point i'll probably run another one you know just diva thing

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it's only five gig for now we're no no the Ethernet is probably one gig

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which is like realistically fine yeah okay let's go do

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that okay uh bye bye colin bye

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also there's definitely something actively in here what yeah there's like wet spots

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and i'm like if my roof is leaking no it kind of smells like pee

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i wonder if the cat got in there either the cat or something like there's

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like so many dirt ah sorry it's okay

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i just have to wash my pants wash everything wash all the

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things yeah so full self really need this to boot up like now okay let's go

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what's going on here why is it not booting i have drilled a hole in line

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with this pot light and i'm really hoping that the fish tape that i shove

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down that hole into the wall is going to line up with

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the uh the plate here i kind of doubt it

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it's it's like a foot too far in but worst case scenario i'll

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go back drill another hole and just try to get in the next wall space so this is

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the Ethernet that was run outside

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so i can't really use it to fish my fiber optics back up the hill

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so to speak um all right so i think what we're going to

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do is unplug all the graphics cards get this booted up and then start

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plugging them back in one at a time we've seen this before with six workstations one CPU and the good news

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is because we haven't water cooled it all together and created a custom

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chassis there's plenty of time to sort out these kinds of issues the big thing

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we're testing today is whether the fiber optic usb and displayport solution is

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actually any good ew dead squirrel

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what what there's a dead squirrel in here

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oh my god that's disgusting yep okay how old is it uh

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it's not moist anymore if that's what you're wondering

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okay sorry i've shoved the fish tape all the way

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down but there's no saying it so

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and i'm in line with this box i think

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so i'm in the next wall space over so i think i'm going to

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mark out poke a hole and

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pray and we're going to see if we can find the tape in there

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i get to wreck Linus's house yes i think i have like a 50 chance of

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finding it in the wall you said 70. i did say 70 earlier i just dropped it

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down to be realistic um so i found the

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edge of the next stud yeah and so that's where i think i am in the wall given the

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pot light so i'm ready to poke a hole i just need to kill the power okay and

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then we can fish the cable down and hope we find it okay well there's nothing powered up

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over here that matters so go ahead and start flipping breakers i they're sort

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of labeled oh that helps why did i drill two holes because i

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should have put the first hole on the edge of where i need to cut so i can get

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the saw in there

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hey there it is okay

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so i think i know what the issue is this board is still running the release

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BIOS from four months ago so there's a new one

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that apparently fixes blue screen issues with graphics cards

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apparently fixes issues with Intel network cards which is

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exactly the kind of nick that we had plugged in so

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um cd fs zero

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what does that mean so we've put a uh a hole in the wall

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this guy fits quite nicely if i do say so myself

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and uh now i'm going to go up to above this and uh

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let's try and show the fish tape down there and see if i can find it

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like a fox did you get it yeah nice

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nice uh this sc connector is too big to fit

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in the hole that i drilled in the joist upstairs so we're going to run the lc

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connector which is what actually plugs into the devices

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this guy will screw onto the end here i'm probably doing this wrong so any

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electricians or people who pull data lines professionally

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don't at me we are going to take

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the actual usb fiber not just the display

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port fiber this nice small end

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that i can actually fit through the hole i drilled i'm gonna try and pull mostly from the

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plug in the jacket boom we've got a nice little missile

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to drag up okay so BIOS update seems to have worked i am in unread everything is

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one is that my old vdisk so with a Windows 10 install on it it doesn't seem

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to be booting for some reason not sure why oh i think we're stuck in a boot

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loop you've got to be kidding me oh i think we're stuck in a boot loop you've

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got to be kidding me i see that that's the same thing you brought me last time

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oh there's a pattern in there where'd you get that

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from my chair what the heck

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please just need these graphics cards to show

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up

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wow i still need a few more things to go right but okay so devices that we need to plug in

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then um oh

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here's something i really didn't think of uh colin yes sir how many display

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ports did we run down here just one

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that's all you said to run um thinking

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yeah there's no way to like get another one down here quickly and easily we

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don't have another one thinking okay i have an idea we are

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going to plug the primary display in upstairs we will plug the vr headset in

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down here oh why how did i not think of this

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let's try it just with the main tv first then

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okay so things we need plugged in this

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that's our keyboard mouse dongle doodad

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is there a front one no i guess they're all in the back okay that's fine

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i pulled the plugs off

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we're connected and now we have the correct connector

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to go into the back of the extender pull the little plug

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send it Linus

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oh it said it said HDMI displayport no

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signal should we just test with something that

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we know works yeah sure uh why don't you go ahead and plug it into the blue one

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over there the blue one yeah in the back okay oh

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yeah i gotta be that katarsonist again hold on a second what

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did you unplug it no it was just sitting there

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oh did you not plug it in

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plug into the 2080 ti then i guess uh 2080 yep

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no signal that's heartbreaking

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okay we're locked in displayport so hopefully at some point it'll just go

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nothing yet but the little light at the bottom is flashing orange wait

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what am i plugging in the wrong thing these are directional

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i didn't realize they were directional oh wait wait wait

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got it okay

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new plan since we had to rerun it anyway

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we're gonna run the two here so we can have the tv and the vr setup running at

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the same time i mean hey

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look at that it's up yeah yep

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oh okay honestly i think we got to call it here

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today and pick this up again tomorrow with GPU pass-through working now we can

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focus on setting up all of our vms and getting our peripherals working

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as you guys might be able to tell i was up for quite a few hours last night

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getting this all configured so not really feeling my best anymore but

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the good news is we're ready to show you guys all four machines are running super

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smoothly right now i'm just extracting a copy of the cinebench benchmark the only

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real way to tell the difference between them is to fire up task manager and look

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at their different specs so this one's got 128 gigs of RAM six cores i actually

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have smt disabled on the CPU due to a

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BIOS irregularity on our motherboard so those are six true cores and these are

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eight true cores as opposed to uh you

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know a virtual core and a true core so

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eight true cores and finally what's this one got

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a true course now remember guys individually these scores might not be

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crazy impressive or anything but you gotta remember that this is four

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instances running off of a single chip

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so let's go ahead and go run run

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run and we are two cores short because i've

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reserved two of them for our virtualization hypervisor

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they are all lit up right now ladies and gentlemen

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this thing is working hard now let's just see how they do in terms

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of performance here we come in at anywhere between around 2700 and 2000

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but that's without having our smt enabled and that's with all of them

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running at the same time so what i'm expecting is that even without altering

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the core counts i'm gonna run one of these again we would actually get a

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higher score if not all machines are going full tilt at the same time which

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would be a pretty unlikely scenario and as expected we got

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2900 points without changing any configuration just thanks to our CPU

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being able to boost higher so that's great everything is performing

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as we would expect so it's time to throw some gpus back into the vms and try and

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light these monitors up okay

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in theory everything's linked up so now it's just a matter of unplugging my

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Thunderbolt dock here and switching over to optical displayport and optical usb

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oh execution error oh crap okay uh one moment please

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all right

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peripherals lit up so our usb 2 backwards compatibility is running okay

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so now what we need to do is get evons turned on

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this is great so we had a connectivity issue there our usb 3 was flashing all

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we needed to do was unplug and replug our fiber pass through and we're good to

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go oh

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150 gigs of RAM ladies and gentlemen

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so uh this is it colin and i are going to try

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and game on both of these machines at the same time over fiber optic

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connections you might say we're gonna game at the

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speed of light

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you were waiting to do it if i didn't in case you're wondering why it's rise

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of the tomb raider and not shadow of the tomb raider um i set up the vms with

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really small virtual disks and shadow didn't fit

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and i could have expanded them but then it would have taken longer to copy them back and forth over the network and

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stuff so this is what we're doing

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and the craziest thing about this kind of virtualized setup is that even though

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we're using the same machine we don't have to both play the same game this is something not some game console you know

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i want to do some you know 3d rendering or some crap on my

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CPU colin shouldn't feel it at all in his

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game while i crank the eight cores that are assigned to me

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pretty sick hey so for world's most comfortable gaming

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it's about to get uncomfortable because we actually totally forgot i forgot uh

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this doesn't have DisplayPort so our wall jack is kind of useless we pulled

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that out and then this was the only

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long HDMI cable we had on and it's a 300

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footer and we couldn't get it unspooled to get you know what just whatever don't

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worry about it fiber optics are so cool

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like that is a 300 foot HDMI cable and

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we are at 4k 60 frames per second right now is that not freaking awesome

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and of course guys just you know proof's in the pudding right

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we are not running off of this pc

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now something i haven't tried yet is whether we can actually run 120 hertz

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4k or oh wow that was quick and worked just fine oh that's smooth

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that is freaking awesome 50 feet of 120 hertz 4k oh and our

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control panel's showing up now okay let's play a game

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man i really hope this works so this is the 2080 ti equipped machine so

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theoretically performance should be flipping awesome so far everything just

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works you just plug stuff in and

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usb 2 usb 3 this is 4k 120 hertz over long distance

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we're running at like 80 FPS yeah it's a bit of an older game but

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this thing is freaking cranked guys and

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that's my gaming pc right there

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look ma not actually hooked up

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this is cool too so because we're using this usb extender

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box it has lots of power going into it and that re-boosts the signal

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we can even plug in peripherals with long cables like an

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xbox controller or something like that boom plug and play the thing about vr

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is between the cameras and the extremely latency sensitive nature of it

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any problems with either your display connection or your usb connection are

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going to result in a very very bad

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experience so i think i found a problem generic

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super speed usb hub here is showing up as a yellow exclamation mark

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and it only happens when i plug in the index

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it's okay i've got an idea right now i'm using this ASUS card with an as media

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chipset to plug into my optical box and i'd like to swap it out for another one

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but i don't have anything else handy which got me thinking

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what do all rtx touring cards have

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a usb type c port for that vr link or

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whatever it's called thing so what if i plugged in a type c hub and

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i plugged into that and passed that through

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let's see what happens well the good news is it works at all i

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wasn't 100 sure because i know that it's a slightly non-standard implementation

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of usb type-c but uh the vr headset's still not

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working let's go ahead and give it the old the old replug right now we've got

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one of two possibilities either our miracle usb box is not a miracle or

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there's something about virtualizing our usb controller that causes it to have

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virtual hubs in the chain or something that's causing performance issues so to

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diagnose this we're gonna take my vr gaming setup

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we're gonna pop it in the room upstairs and see if that works with the usb box

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well it picked up we're in game i will say last night i did manage to

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get this far connected via the virtual machine

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but it wouldn't go longer than about 10 or 15 seconds without the tracking going

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all wonky which was making me pretty sick

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so just because it's going now doesn't mean that we're out of the woods yet so

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far i've had no performance and no tracking issues which is really

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impressive when you consider that between the pc and the vr headset

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there's not only my optical links but also the long tether so what all this

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means then is that the concept of having our computers separated physically and

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all in a centralized location and then accessing them over optical fiber in our

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homes is sound it's just a matter of

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the cost becoming controllable and maybe some software or driver issues being

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sorted out pretty freaking cool

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was about as chaotic techy LTT as it gets but i am super

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thrilled with the potential of the solution if nothing else it could be

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used to take all the noise and heat generating components away from places

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like your media room where you don't want it and consolidate it somewhere out

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of sight and out of mind with no performance penalty that we can detect

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flipping sick if you guys want to see more great projects like this make sure

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