the outward appearance of the MSI gs75
is surprisingly professional giving its gamer roots
but don't let it fool you this five pound laptop is packing hardware that
would make most desktops blush with a GeForce rtx 2080 max q a six core Intel
core i7 8750h 32 gigs of RAM and one
terabyte of raid 0 m.2 SSD storage
every single component of this machine
is balls to the wall which should mean balls to the wall
performance but can you possibly hope to cool all of
that stuff in a chassis this thin
are rtx cards even worth the extra cost
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so here's the thing see the performance of a laptop with one of NVIDIA's shiny
new rtx laptop gpus will vary significantly
depending on the cooling and the power available so you'll always get the same
number of cuda and rtx cores but for the
2080 max-q in particular the base and
the boost clocks can be all over the place
laptop manufacturers can actually configure this particular card's power
target to anything from 80 watts all the
way up to over 150 watts that means and remember this
is according to NVIDIA's spec that you could end up with a base clock of just
735 megahertz while a properly cooled
one would be capable of boosting to over double that
so what that means is that independent reviews of this generation of laptops
are going to be even more important than ever before because you cannot compare
between models based on the spec sheet alone
so how did MSI then fare taming the beast
fine i guess so under a stress test the CPU
immediately jumped up to 100 degrees and was forced to throttle down until its
turbo boost ran out and it settled in around 2.8 gigahertz sustained on all
cores which might not sound amazing and it's
not as good as it could be but it still kicks out a right impressive 1205 score
in cinebench so mobile professionals take note but also
stay tuned because we're going to go further in depth with that in a future
video today's focus is mostly gaming since this is our first look at mobile
rtx so let's change gears to 3dmark's
new port royal test treating our eyeballs to some of the first real-time
traced rays to come out of a laptop and this also gave us a moment to really
appreciate the 17-inch 1080p display that MSI crammed into what it would have
traditionally been a 15.6 inch laptop
chassis and i gotta say their ips type panel
delivers some damn good visuals at 144 hertz
of course with the horsepower to back it up really only g-sync and factory
calibration are notable missing features here i gotta say like just overall the
industry i i love the move to these super slim bezel 17-inch displays the
difference in immersion versus a 15.6 inch is palpable
now back to the benchmark we got a score of about 4 000 which at face value
meant basically nothing to me since this test hasn't been around for very long
but then upon further investigation it turns out that it's roughly a third
slower than a desktop rtx 2080 with a
similar CPU and that lines up pretty nicely with the reduction in clock speed
with the g75 landing around 1200 megahertz versus 1850 on the desktop
card now i could show you guys a bunch more
benchmarks of a desktop graphics card expectedly crushing a thin laptop
but we figured it would be a lot more interesting to compare it to other thin
and light gaming laptops which is why the gf75 is going to be taking on the
gauntlet of zephyrus's zephyr zephyri
for anyway with the max q versions of the
gtx 1070 1080 and rtx 2080 all
represented back in the port royal test the two rtx
cards completely destroyed their gtx equivalents well partly because the test
won't run on those cards but more interestingly the zephyrus gx701 pulled
out a convincing lead in both the score
and core clock achieved likely thanks to its superior cooling stay tuned for our
full review of that little beast even more interestingly though in 3dmark's
time spy benchmark the rtx cards absolutely wiped the floor with their
last gen competitors churning out a result that is 30 faster than what we've
ever seen in a thin laptop before and this kept up past the synthetics as well
which is just great news for gamers the mobile rtx
2080 is a freaking beast max q design or
no now the gs75 again wasn't quite able to
keep up with the zephyrus gx701 but generally just by a couple to maybe
about 5 FPS so MSI is leaving some performance on
the table here perhaps this was in order to maintain a more conventional keyboard and trackpad
layout or perhaps it was that they tuned it this way for acoustic reasons now the
gs75 isn't silent but per NVIDIA's max q
guidance it's quiet enough that it's not going to bother you while gaming and
it's easily overpowered by its decent onboard speakers
so overall the gs75 games really freaking well
but what about the whole portability thing it is a laptop
well as much as we're kind of tired of saying it but MSI just keeps making us repeat
ourselves here the build quality here just isn't good enough for a machine
that costs thousand dollars i can easily click the
track pad by pushing the palm rest area and you can feel the machine flexing
when you're picking it up like honestly the word we settled on here was
flaccid um they do claw back some points with one
of the best assortments of io that i've seen in quite some time with Thunderbolt
3 full-sized HDMI and Ethernet being the
stars of the show although if you want to be a star you'll probably need a
standalone camera as uh this one here isn't going to get to too many
compliments on twitch but i look like 10 years younger which
is nice look at that smoothing maybe our biggest gripe about the gs75
though is the trackpad it is glass topped which is good but the flex of the
chassis removes any chance of it having a solid clicky feel and although i like
where MSI was going with the size using up almost all of the available vertical
space and giving it this extra horizontal width they somehow went too
far making it really hard to type without ending up with a palm resting on
the track pad causing accidental activations
and when i brought up these issues at ces MSI's reply was well the track pad
turns off when you plug in a mouse and although i do expect the average
user of the gs75 to regularly have a mouse plugged in it's kind of like
dropping your dog off with a friend when you go on vacation and saying
well oliver won't [ __ ] in your house at all
as long as you've got him outside when he needs to so i just i never thought i'd say this
but until MSI can get their palm rejection way better they should stick
to smaller track tabs now as mentioned above the worst part of
the keyboard is actually still the track pad but once that is disabled it's
actually pretty good the keys have a nice long stroke with decent feel
overall and my only real gripes here are about the layout and they're pretty
small ones i just think that these keys up here could have been better used as
dedicated home and end or media control keys with that said they can be remapped
so yeah removing the bottom of the device we're
greeted by an impressive 82 watt hour battery which given the power in here is
not gonna be letting you work cordless all day but if you treat it nicely and
you're not running games or heavy software it gets you a pretty darn solid
five hours of work time then past the battery we've got access to three m.2
SSD slots making for very easy storage expansion and
RAM that is well it's technically upgradable but if
you're like oh gee where are the dim slots ah it's the same thing we were
wondering so our unit has both of the sodium slots filled already and if we
did want to change them out we'd actually have to remove everything to
get to the other side of the motherboard bring us to the bottom line should you
buy one of these now you will be getting one of the
fastest gaming laptops on the market faster than anything that was released
in 2018 by a fair margin and compared to
the zephyrus you get more RAM for three hundred dollars less on an otherwise
identically spec'd system but the zephyrus in the real world is
faster and it has g-sync and factory
panel calibration along with noticeably higher build quality
also maybe i'm off base here but in my mind
by the time you're spending three thousand dollars i feel like it's not
that much of a stretch to go a little bit further to 3300
which is why i am not recommending that you buy this laptop but instead
recommending that you buy this laptop except for 2 300
to make that happen you do need to drop the specs a bit but there should be more
than enough cooling for an rtx 2070 in here 16 gigs of RAM fits the needs of
most people and at that price i am much
more willing to let slide some of my gripes about the build quality in
exchange for the overall usability and the great battery capacity that MSI has
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