WEBVTT 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:06.799 Apple's latest Mac Pro is an embarrassment. It doesn't even have 00:00:03.840 --> 00:00:11.120 their latest gen M3 silicon. It costs $3,400 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:16.080 more than a Mac Studio that has the exact same specs. And their prices on 00:00:13.920 --> 00:00:20.160 storage and RAM upgrades would seem to suggest that they're made out of gold 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:25.119 rather than silicon. The worst part though, it's not even that good. 00:00:22.400 --> 00:00:28.160 Yeah. Here we go. Final scores. 3,000 and change. 1,900 and change. 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:34.239 Wow. Wow. 50% faster on CPU. But showing you 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:38.399 all the results right away is no fun and not very helpful. So, let's talk about 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:43.200 our choices while we work together to build the PC Pro 2. Yeah, if you 00:00:41.760 --> 00:00:49.440 remember, this isn't the first time we've done this. And last time, the PC 00:00:46.480 --> 00:00:53.760 wasn't a clear winner, unlike our sponsor, MSI. If you don't have time to 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:59.039 go through the process of picking out parts and building your own PC, MSI's 00:00:56.320 --> 00:01:03.760 Aegis RS gaming desktop comes pre-built with powerful components like a Wi-Fi 7 00:01:01.440 --> 00:01:07.840 enabled motherboard, and it has the benefit of being easily upgradable. 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:11.119 Check it out at the link down below. Right out of the gate, this PC Pro build 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:17.439 is going to be a bit more of a challenge. While our Mac Pro comes in at 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:21.520 a whopping $11,800, 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:23.759 the old one was like $30,000. So 00:01:21.520 --> 00:01:29.040 bargain? Well, it all depends on what you're getting, right? There are two 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:31.920 different M2 Ultras. One with 60 GPU 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:36.400 cores and the other with 76. We've gone with the ladder, meaning that that 00:01:33.119 --> 00:01:38.240 machine is as fast as it can be. 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:43.520 Meanwhile, the PC Pro is getting something a little, I don't know, newer, 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:49.040 faster, wider. How about all of the above? The AMD Threadripper 7970X 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:55.680 features AMD's latest Zen 4 architecture with a monstrous 32 cores and a boost 00:01:51.600 --> 00:01:58.960 clock of 5.3 GHz, all while drawing 350 00:01:55.680 --> 00:02:01.200 watts. And that's before you turn on PBO 00:01:58.960 --> 00:02:05.920 or precision boost overdrive. More on that later, but um is a potential 00:02:03.600 --> 00:02:09.280 drawback of our machine uh compared to that one. This isn't a top-of-the-line 00:02:07.759 --> 00:02:13.599 Threadripper or anything. that would have cost us more than half of our 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:18.560 budget by itself. But I'm still confident that this CPU is going to have 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:23.120 no issue. I'm still confident that this bad boy is going to run circles around 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:27.120 that thing. Now, unlike the Mac Pro with its 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:32.000 soldered CPU, our chip needs a motherboard with a socket to go in. 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:33.760 Specifically, the Gigabyte TRX50 Aerody. 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:37.599 There's only a handful of TRX50 motherboards out there right now, and we 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:41.599 settled on this one primarily due to the spacing of its PCI Express slots, which 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:45.599 is going to make a bit more sense later. It also conveniently is the least 00:02:43.519 --> 00:02:50.080 expensive TRX50 board while still including great features like dual 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:55.760 high-speed LAN ports, Wi-Fi 7, and a whopping four quadlane M.2 slots, three 00:02:53.280 --> 00:03:01.599 of which are PCIe Gen 5. Now, hold on a minute, Lionus. This is regular Thread 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:04.080 Ripper. How is this machine pro? That is 00:03:01.599 --> 00:03:09.840 a fair point. Compared to Threadripper Pro, we've got fewer PCIe lanes, so you 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:15.280 can't connect as much stuff to it, and limited RAM capacity across half as many 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:19.840 memory channels. But then I ask you this, how do we stack up to the 00:03:17.200 --> 00:03:27.760 competition? Compared even to this nonpro system, the Mac Pro has fewer 00:03:23.519 --> 00:03:29.440 PCIe lanes, still supports less RAM, has 00:03:27.760 --> 00:03:35.360 limited support for professional applications outside of video and photo, 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:40.159 and doesn't support ECC memory at all. It does have faster memory, but we'll 00:03:38.480 --> 00:03:44.480 have to see how much of an advantage that's going to give it. Let's talk 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:50.000 about memory. The base model Mac Pro comes with 64 GB of unified memory. And 00:03:47.920 --> 00:03:55.200 unified memory is legitimately super cool. Apple RAM is directly on the SOC 00:03:53.120 --> 00:04:01.760 package, which increases bandwidth to both the CPU and the onboard GPU. Not 00:03:58.799 --> 00:04:07.120 only is it fast, but if the CPU completes a task and needs to hand it 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:09.439 off to the GPU, that GPU has immediate 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:14.239 access to it rather than having to wait for it to be transferred between system 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:19.120 memory and traditional GPU memory. Apple's RAM also supports dynamic 00:04:16.400 --> 00:04:23.759 caching, meaning that the CPU and GPU can partition the system memory 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:30.720 dynamically to best complete their respective work. or at least the M3 can. 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:37.440 It sucks that this Mac Pro is still stuck with the M2. And what also sucks 00:04:33.280 --> 00:04:40.560 even more is the price. We added another 00:04:37.440 --> 00:04:43.280 128 gigs to our config, which cost us 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:49.280 $1,600. On the PC side, okay, sure, it's not 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:52.080 unified, but boy, do we ever get a whole 00:04:49.280 --> 00:05:00.880 lot more for our money. I am talking double the capacity at 384 GB. These are 00:04:56.720 --> 00:05:03.280 Micron's 96 gig 5600 megat transfer per 00:05:00.880 --> 00:05:07.039 second DIMs. They're registered ECC, meaning they should be 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:10.880 beautifully stable, and we're going to fill all four slots here, maxing out our 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:14.240 motherboard. It's kind of funny. We ended up with exactly double the RAM 00:05:12.880 --> 00:05:18.240 because there was that clip that circulated of an Apple employee 00:05:16.080 --> 00:05:25.759 erroneously stating during an interview that 8 GB on an M3 uh MacBook Pro is 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:28.800 probably analogous to 16 GB on other systems. 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:32.960 I guess that's why it costs twice as much. Another sore spot that Apple users 00:05:31.280 --> 00:05:38.479 have been complaining about more and more lately is storage pricing. To go 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:45.639 from the stock one terabyte in that machine to 8 terabytes will add $2,200 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:45.639 to your bill, $2200. 00:05:45.919 --> 00:05:53.039 For that price, you could buy a whole other computer. You could buy one of 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:58.800 every screwdriver on ltstore.com twice. Or you could do what we did and 00:05:56.080 --> 00:06:05.039 pick up two of these. The Cyber Rocket 4 Plus 8 TB. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. 00:06:02.400 --> 00:06:10.880 Twice as much storage. Hey, Apple. Uh, is your 8 tab equivalent to our 16 tab? 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:14.400 Is that is that a thing? We're going to find out. 00:06:11.840 --> 00:06:18.639 Yeah, we sure will. But what we can do is just have double the capacity. 00:06:17.039 --> 00:06:22.240 Whether it's for projects, videos, games, or whatever we want. One 00:06:20.479 --> 00:06:27.039 advantage for Apple, though, has been, and maybe always will be, sex appeal. I 00:06:25.280 --> 00:06:33.199 mean, look at this fine ass cheese grater. That's why people keep buying 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:35.759 this thing. For us, we've gone with 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:39.600 Well, it's fine. This is the Define 7 XL. It's not a new case by any means, 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:43.520 but it's compatible with high-end hardware, fits lots of storage drives, 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:47.120 and uh hopefully won't be too constricted when it comes to airflow. 00:06:45.280 --> 00:06:51.880 Worst case scenario, we'll drill some holes in the front, bring back the 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:51.880 cheese grater aesthetic. 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:06.160 For cooling, we've gone with an NZXT Kraken 360 because, well, we had 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:12.080 mounting hardware and with this triple radiator, it was able to handle our 32 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:14.319 CPU cores under full load, at least at 00:07:12.080 --> 00:07:18.160 their default speeds. Uh, the system does support overclocking, but it's 00:07:16.960 --> 00:07:23.440 really not something that we would recommend for a pro machine in a 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:26.319 production environment. Anyway, now while you watch this delightful little 00:07:24.880 --> 00:07:33.440 montage of our cooler being installed, I'd like you to think back to when I said this motherboard has the PCIe slot 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:40.800 spacing we needed. That is because for our build, we're using not one but two 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:43.360 of MSI's RTX 4090 Supreme cards. Yes, my 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:48.319 friends, Apple is what it took for NVIDIA's pricing to finally seem so 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:51.039 reasonable that you can just put in two. 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:55.120 However, there's a twist. The keen item among you might have noticed that one of 00:07:52.479 --> 00:08:00.240 my cards is air cooled and one of them has water cooling. That my friends is 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:07.280 because we couldn't find any combination of motherboard and case that could fit 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:08.800 two air cooled 4090s. And then well when 00:08:07.280 --> 00:08:15.919 we wanted two of the liquid cool ones, we found out gosh darn it AI rush in 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:18.720 China there's now a 4090 shortage. So, 00:08:15.919 --> 00:08:22.560 we asked our trustworthy bro Ryan from the LTT Store support team if we could 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:27.280 borrow his aircooled variant, and we used our one remaining liquid cooled 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:31.280 variant. That way, we've got two of the same cards, but with slightly different 00:08:29.440 --> 00:08:36.399 hats. Now, since the shortage, prices for 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:37.519 these have gone up a fair bit, but still 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:47.240 think we're going to end up looking pretty good by comparison. 00:08:42.640 --> 00:08:47.240 Let me deal with that. Anywh 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:56.000 who, to power this mess, we went with the Silverstone Hela 2050R Platinum or 00:08:52.800 --> 00:09:01.279 SST HA2050R-PM 00:08:56.000 --> 00:09:03.760 for short. It costs a whopping $670, 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:10.560 which only sounds like a bad deal until you compare it to the Mac Pro. Ah, 00:09:08.880 --> 00:09:14.560 reasonable. Now that the build's done, all we got to 00:09:12.160 --> 00:09:20.880 do is fire it up and run some benchmarks. Now, 00:09:17.680 --> 00:09:22.640 our final price not that far off, but 00:09:20.880 --> 00:09:29.200 for fun, we're going to include results with both GPUs as well as with only one 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:30.959 GPU because a little bird told me, 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:34.240 bird named Elijah, that it'll still win even with just one 00:09:32.959 --> 00:09:40.399 GPU. Yes. Good job, bird. Spoiler alert. 00:09:38.560 --> 00:09:43.839 I stuttered. I'm sorry. Okay, I up the shot. 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:45.760 No, I loved it. It was great. Editor, please cut around and make me 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:48.959 look good. Can you please freeze frame? Cut around 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:54.640 him. Put me in a beach, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like make me look good. 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:59.839 Give him like a Tom Celic mustache. And like you don't know who Tom Celich is. 00:09:57.839 --> 00:10:02.880 He's the Seleian one. What does that mean? Couldn't help 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:08.399 noticing, Elijah. We're off to a pretty bad start here. Our system didn't even boot up. 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:14.000 Error code 0D. You think you've seen little PP energy? That's zero PP energy. 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:16.800 And they're booted. Finally, 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:23.519 PCs. Yay. But which one's faster? Classroom. And go. Wait up. 00:10:20.959 --> 00:10:25.680 That's what is it? F12? I don't know. I don't know. Is there a 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:30.880 hotkey to render? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:34.800 It is F12. There you go. Go. I got F12 on a Mac. What is this? 00:10:32.560 --> 00:10:37.600 Command option F12. Oh, I don't know. I was just guessing. 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:40.560 I get that. If anyone should have had the head start, it should have been you. 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:44.320 Spoiler. Are you done? Uh, no. I 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:47.200 Oh, no. It's still going. Yes, I am going much faster than you, 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:50.880 though. Oh, wow. Yes, you are. 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:54.160 All right, I finished. I'm not even halfway. 00:10:52.880 --> 00:10:57.519 You started late. You started late. What? Let's give it the benefit of the doubt. We'll let it heat up, catch up. 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:02.320 You know, I started like 5 seconds after you. 00:11:00.959 --> 00:11:06.240 So quiet, though. It sounds like it's barely doing anything. Wait, 00:11:04.959 --> 00:11:10.720 since we're still waiting for the Mac anyway, why don't you run a GPU intensive test and see if they spin up? 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:14.240 Yeah, sure. We'll run Cinebench. We'll see what it can what results it can give us. You Oh, you finished. 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:18.160 Yeah, I finished. Yeah. Total time. Oh, 246 was the end 00:11:17.839 --> 00:11:22.040 result. Ivon's so proud of me. 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:29.600 Here we go. Boom. It's starting. Oh, hey, you've got a running back. 00:11:27.680 --> 00:11:33.120 Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. GPU start. Hey, my fans are spinning. 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:37.120 Definitely louder. Is it? Yeah. No, I mean louder than the Mac. 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:42.480 Like this thing just gets silent. Yeah. I mean that's what happens when you hook a 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:44.240 Raspberry Pi up to a heat sink this big. 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:47.279 It's not a Raspberry Pi. It's a powerful computer. It's an Apple Pi. 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:53.200 Yeah. Don't feel bad. Your computer's really powerful. Good boy. 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:57.200 Okay. This is This has rendered this multiple times. We're getting about 00:11:55.040 --> 00:12:01.440 65,000 points, give or take. It's doing it over and over and 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:06.000 preparing. It hasn't even started. 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:12.320 Just run it like four times. Remember the first gen when Apple was all our GPU 00:12:08.959 --> 00:12:14.720 was like, "Yeah, 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:20.560 and NVIDIA's like, what are you even talking about?" Okay, that was the 3090 00:12:18.079 --> 00:12:23.440 if I recall correctly, not the 4090. But still, 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:27.279 it has done this multiple times while it's trying to finish this one. It's 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:31.360 kind of insane how it's just crushing it. 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:37.200 There it goes. It finally finished one. 9,500 points. 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:40.560 We are over six times that. What was our difference in price? 00:12:39.040 --> 00:12:45.440 Give or take like a couple hundred bucks depending on sales of parts. 00:12:42.160 --> 00:12:47.279 But Final Cut, the ecosystem. 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:52.720 I get my Windows phone back. Please bring it back. Dozens of people are so upset right now. 00:12:51.040 --> 00:12:55.920 Is the noise difference enough that you would prefer to buy the Mac over this? 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:59.040 No. This is still a really quiet machine. We should put the side panel on in 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:02.800 fairness, though. Oh, yeah. Apple's side panel game on 00:13:01.680 --> 00:13:08.399 fleek. Kids don't say that anymore. How would you know? You're old now. 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:12.240 Let's do the CPU version of Cinebench first before we completely write this 00:13:09.920 --> 00:13:15.600 thing off, though. And they're off. Coming out of THE GATE STRONG. WE'VE GOT 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:18.240 NOBODY. Nobody is coming out of the gate strong. Wa. Hold on a second. 00:13:17.040 --> 00:13:22.079 This is actually closer. Yeah, this may be a competition. 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:26.399 Oh, okay. Oh, PC PRO 2 IS PICKING up speed. It's 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:30.320 coming out ahead on the first turn. So, I'm going to stop that now. Yeah, please do. Yeah, 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:32.639 this one had like a moment where I thought, "Hey." 00:13:32.079 --> 00:13:37.920 Yeah. Hey. Yeah. No. 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:40.160 Hey. Yeah. What? 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:44.160 Cuz you said, "Hey." Yeah. It's a song. Oh, I don't get it. 00:13:43.040 --> 00:13:49.760 Do we have scores yet? Yes. 3,000 2,000. 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:52.720 Oh, this one's not even done still, though. Oh, does it give preliminary scores? 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:56.480 Yeah, I think it's interesting. Estimating what it's going to be. Okay. Well, 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:59.120 it's almost done it or it's like halfway done its second one, though. And this 00:13:57.839 --> 00:14:06.160 one's not done. It's first. It took a bit to spool up. Yeah. Here we 00:14:01.839 --> 00:14:07.839 go. Final scores. 3,000 and change. 00:14:06.160 --> 00:14:11.360 1,900 and change. Wow. Wow. 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:17.839 50% faster on CPU. Apple Silicon has been a huge win for 00:14:14.160 --> 00:14:19.360 them in mobile. Mac Mini. 00:14:17.839 --> 00:14:23.040 Super cool machine. The Studio as well cuz we're not we're 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:27.360 just dissing this one because it's the same spec, but it's like what? $3,400. 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:32.880 We said expensive. You're paying $3,500 00:14:29.760 --> 00:14:34.720 for a fancy case and some PCIe slots. 00:14:32.880 --> 00:14:38.480 You don't even have expandable RAM in it anymore like you used to. 00:14:36.079 --> 00:14:42.639 And that's the problem. We like silicon because of its efficiency. And you know, 00:14:40.560 --> 00:14:44.399 we love silicon. Can't say that. 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:47.519 Apple silicon. Oh, we love Apple. It's silicone. 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:53.279 What? Nobody is talking about that. They're different. 00:14:51.920 --> 00:14:56.959 What? Silicon. Yeah. is an element. 00:14:56.079 --> 00:15:01.120 Okay. Silicone is a compound that contains 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:07.760 silicon. So, they're the same. No, that's like saying that water is the 00:15:05.040 --> 00:15:12.560 same as oxygen because there's oxygen in it. 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:16.800 I understand now. We got there, ladies and gentlemen. For 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:20.399 LOL's gaming. Sure. Let's play game. So, CS2, 00:15:19.199 --> 00:15:25.839 Counter-Strike 2 it is. I was going really fast. Yeah, that's pretty fast. How fast could 00:15:23.920 --> 00:15:29.279 you download the game? Delete it and reinstall it. All right, manage. Uninstall. 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:32.720 Here we go. 1.5 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:36.079 1.6. Is the Mac going to win the game 00:15:34.560 --> 00:15:39.360 download benchmark? Oh, no. Oh, did we beat it? 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:44.320 Three. Yes, we passed. Okay, we beat it for 3.1. One thing I will say that is a W though, 00:15:42.560 --> 00:15:48.160 that boots way faster. Yeah, that was a problem we had with the last 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:54.720 Mac Pro killer as well, was that one took a while to boot. Workstation 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:56.880 platforms on PC tend to be 00:15:54.720 --> 00:16:00.240 poorly optimized, but hey, you can download games at 3.4 Gbit per second 00:15:59.040 --> 00:16:03.360 compared to 2.8. Wait, is Counterstrike 2 not available 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:06.880 from Mac? Did you check? It's not available for Mac, so it's trying to get you to launch it. 00:16:06.160 --> 00:16:10.720 Oh, for Christ. I didn't even realize that. Okay, Rocket League, 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:14.800 Rocket League's not launching either. Is Are you sure this is It doesn't work on the M Silicon. 00:16:13.680 --> 00:16:19.279 Okay. Are you Were you just trying to make a point that nothing works or were we supposed to compare this? I was 00:16:17.839 --> 00:16:23.360 trying to make a point that it's very difficult. There's very select games 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:26.959 that you know you may or may not get to play the ones you want. 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:32.000 Were you? Or did you think they worked? I totally was doing it on purpose. It is 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:38.480 one of my f Whoa. Sound boomer enabled. Okay. Very cute. 00:16:35.040 --> 00:16:41.120 Sound boomer is not a real thing. What 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:45.839 speaker is that? Is it just playing off the speaker? 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:48.880 That sounds like it. Eh, is that a thing? I didn't know that was 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:53.839 a thing it could do. Well, where's your PC Pro built-in 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:57.680 speaker at? Okay, fine. I guess you got me on that 00:16:55.600 --> 00:17:03.040 one. All right. I don't have a speaker embedded in my computer. 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:06.559 To be clear, Linux is a piece of Windows 00:17:03.040 --> 00:17:09.360 is a piece of So, when I say macOS is 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:13.760 also sometimes problematic. Don't get upset. You know, why can't I type right 00:17:11.760 --> 00:17:17.679 now? You know, I'm clicking this box. I'm highlighting this text. 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:21.679 It's not that my keyboard's not working. Oh, look. Spotlight. Oh, good. Wait, I 00:17:19.520 --> 00:17:27.199 think I figured it out. Keystroke receiving. Dusk would like to receive 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:29.600 keystrokes from any application. So, like clicking. 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:34.160 I don't. Is that what it's asking? So, it wants 00:17:32.080 --> 00:17:39.840 access to the keyboard to play. I'm exhausted just trying to open one 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:42.000 stupid game. Oh, wow. This mouse is 00:17:39.840 --> 00:17:46.640 really laggy. Imagine the bottom charging port not being the worst thing 00:17:43.679 --> 00:17:46.640 about it. 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:51.919 Hey, wave two shotgun. Let's go. I mean, it looks kind of smooth. I can't 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:55.360 tell what you're feeling with the mouse, though. Does it feel rubbery? 00:17:53.760 --> 00:17:58.160 Oh, no. It's Well, the mouse is terrible, but the actual game is fine. 00:17:57.760 --> 00:18:03.280 Okay. Yeah, it's running super smooth. Yeah. So, why don't I have an FPS counter? 00:18:01.360 --> 00:18:06.400 Dumb question. Did it actually enable? I don't know. Okay, I'll tell you what. 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:09.760 Elijah is going to find at least one game that runs on both of them. We're 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:14.720 going to have a little graph right here, but spoiler alert, it's not going to be 00:18:11.760 --> 00:18:19.679 pretty because the raw horsepower of the GPUs in the PC Pro 2 is vastly greater. 00:18:17.679 --> 00:18:24.080 And remember that in games, we aren't even able to make use of both of them 00:18:21.919 --> 00:18:30.400 because NVIDIA no longer supports Envy Link or SLI at all for that matter on 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:32.000 consumer cards. Jerks. So, okay, Lionus, 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:35.840 we hear you. Apple is expensive and none of their products are good. But that's 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:40.080 not what I'm saying. There are some arguments, strong arguments for many of 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:44.320 Apple's products. There's the power and portability of the MacBook, the 00:18:41.840 --> 00:18:47.760 efficiency of the Mac Studio, or my personal favorite, the Mac Mini. That 00:18:45.919 --> 00:18:52.880 thing is a powerhouse. Or the convenience of AirPods, which I happen 00:18:49.919 --> 00:18:59.520 to daily drive. It's just that the Mac Pro is so bad that Apple will almost 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:04.960 certainly can it. By which I don't mean turn it into a can. Again, 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:08.080 I remember that. I mean, discontinue it. I mean, even Apple's most ardent 00:19:06.320 --> 00:19:12.720 defenders are starting to realize that Apple's pricing, especially with Halo 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:18.080 products like this, just doesn't make any sense anymore. If you search for the 00:19:15.360 --> 00:19:23.120 M2 Ultra Mac Pro, almost every article or video, reaches the same conclusion. 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:27.039 It's dumb. There are some things that it does do well. I mean, like the Mac 00:19:25.520 --> 00:19:31.200 Studio because it's the exact same machine. 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