1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:06,799 Apple's latest Mac Pro is an embarrassment. It doesn't even have 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:11,120 their latest gen M3 silicon. It costs $3,400 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:16,080 more than a Mac Studio that has the exact same specs. And their prices on 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:20,160 storage and RAM upgrades would seem to suggest that they're made out of gold 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:25,119 rather than silicon. The worst part though, it's not even that good. 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:28,160 Yeah. Here we go. Final scores. 3,000 and change. 1,900 and change. 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:34,239 Wow. Wow. 50% faster on CPU. But showing you 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:38,399 all the results right away is no fun and not very helpful. So, let's talk about 9 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:43,200 our choices while we work together to build the PC Pro 2. Yeah, if you 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:49,440 remember, this isn't the first time we've done this. And last time, the PC 11 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:53,760 wasn't a clear winner, unlike our sponsor, MSI. If you don't have time to 12 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:59,039 go through the process of picking out parts and building your own PC, MSI's 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:03,760 Aegis RS gaming desktop comes pre-built with powerful components like a Wi-Fi 7 14 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:07,840 enabled motherboard, and it has the benefit of being easily upgradable. 15 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:11,119 Check it out at the link down below. Right out of the gate, this PC Pro build 16 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:17,439 is going to be a bit more of a challenge. While our Mac Pro comes in at 17 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:21,520 a whopping $11,800, 18 00:01:17,439 --> 00:01:23,759 the old one was like $30,000. So 19 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:29,040 bargain? Well, it all depends on what you're getting, right? There are two 20 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:31,920 different M2 Ultras. One with 60 GPU 21 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:36,400 cores and the other with 76. We've gone with the ladder, meaning that that 22 00:01:33,119 --> 00:01:38,240 machine is as fast as it can be. 23 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:43,520 Meanwhile, the PC Pro is getting something a little, I don't know, newer, 24 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:49,040 faster, wider. How about all of the above? The AMD Threadripper 7970X 25 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:55,680 features AMD's latest Zen 4 architecture with a monstrous 32 cores and a boost 26 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:58,960 clock of 5.3 GHz, all while drawing 350 27 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:01,200 watts. And that's before you turn on PBO 28 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:05,920 or precision boost overdrive. More on that later, but um is a potential 29 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:09,280 drawback of our machine uh compared to that one. This isn't a top-of-the-line 30 00:02:07,759 --> 00:02:13,599 Threadripper or anything. that would have cost us more than half of our 31 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:18,560 budget by itself. But I'm still confident that this CPU is going to have 32 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:23,120 no issue. I'm still confident that this bad boy is going to run circles around 33 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:27,120 that thing. Now, unlike the Mac Pro with its 34 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:32,000 soldered CPU, our chip needs a motherboard with a socket to go in. 35 00:02:28,879 --> 00:02:33,760 Specifically, the Gigabyte TRX50 Aerody. 36 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,599 There's only a handful of TRX50 motherboards out there right now, and we 37 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:41,599 settled on this one primarily due to the spacing of its PCI Express slots, which 38 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:45,599 is going to make a bit more sense later. It also conveniently is the least 39 00:02:43,519 --> 00:02:50,080 expensive TRX50 board while still including great features like dual 40 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:55,760 high-speed LAN ports, Wi-Fi 7, and a whopping four quadlane M.2 slots, three 41 00:02:53,280 --> 00:03:01,599 of which are PCIe Gen 5. Now, hold on a minute, Lionus. This is regular Thread 42 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:04,080 Ripper. How is this machine pro? That is 43 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:09,840 a fair point. Compared to Threadripper Pro, we've got fewer PCIe lanes, so you 44 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:15,280 can't connect as much stuff to it, and limited RAM capacity across half as many 45 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:19,840 memory channels. But then I ask you this, how do we stack up to the 46 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:27,760 competition? Compared even to this nonpro system, the Mac Pro has fewer 47 00:03:23,519 --> 00:03:29,440 PCIe lanes, still supports less RAM, has 48 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:35,360 limited support for professional applications outside of video and photo, 49 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:40,159 and doesn't support ECC memory at all. It does have faster memory, but we'll 50 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:44,480 have to see how much of an advantage that's going to give it. Let's talk 51 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:50,000 about memory. The base model Mac Pro comes with 64 GB of unified memory. And 52 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:55,200 unified memory is legitimately super cool. Apple RAM is directly on the SOC 53 00:03:53,120 --> 00:04:01,760 package, which increases bandwidth to both the CPU and the onboard GPU. Not 54 00:03:58,799 --> 00:04:07,120 only is it fast, but if the CPU completes a task and needs to hand it 55 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:09,439 off to the GPU, that GPU has immediate 56 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:14,239 access to it rather than having to wait for it to be transferred between system 57 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:19,120 memory and traditional GPU memory. Apple's RAM also supports dynamic 58 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:23,759 caching, meaning that the CPU and GPU can partition the system memory 59 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:30,720 dynamically to best complete their respective work. or at least the M3 can. 60 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:37,440 It sucks that this Mac Pro is still stuck with the M2. And what also sucks 61 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:40,560 even more is the price. We added another 62 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:43,280 128 gigs to our config, which cost us 63 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:49,280 $1,600. On the PC side, okay, sure, it's not 64 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:52,080 unified, but boy, do we ever get a whole 65 00:04:49,280 --> 00:05:00,880 lot more for our money. I am talking double the capacity at 384 GB. These are 66 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:03,280 Micron's 96 gig 5600 megat transfer per 67 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:07,039 second DIMs. They're registered ECC, meaning they should be 68 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,880 beautifully stable, and we're going to fill all four slots here, maxing out our 69 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,240 motherboard. It's kind of funny. We ended up with exactly double the RAM 70 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:18,240 because there was that clip that circulated of an Apple employee 71 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:25,759 erroneously stating during an interview that 8 GB on an M3 uh MacBook Pro is 72 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:28,800 probably analogous to 16 GB on other systems. 73 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:32,960 I guess that's why it costs twice as much. Another sore spot that Apple users 74 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:38,479 have been complaining about more and more lately is storage pricing. To go 75 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:45,639 from the stock one terabyte in that machine to 8 terabytes will add $2,200 76 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,639 to your bill, $2200. 77 00:05:45,919 --> 00:05:53,039 For that price, you could buy a whole other computer. You could buy one of 78 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:58,800 every screwdriver on ltstore.com twice. Or you could do what we did and 79 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:05,039 pick up two of these. The Cyber Rocket 4 Plus 8 TB. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. 80 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:10,880 Twice as much storage. Hey, Apple. Uh, is your 8 tab equivalent to our 16 tab? 81 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:14,400 Is that is that a thing? We're going to find out. 82 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:18,639 Yeah, we sure will. But what we can do is just have double the capacity. 83 00:06:17,039 --> 00:06:22,240 Whether it's for projects, videos, games, or whatever we want. One 84 00:06:20,479 --> 00:06:27,039 advantage for Apple, though, has been, and maybe always will be, sex appeal. I 85 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:33,199 mean, look at this fine ass cheese grater. That's why people keep buying 86 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:35,759 this thing. For us, we've gone with 87 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:39,600 Well, it's fine. This is the Define 7 XL. It's not a new case by any means, 88 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:43,520 but it's compatible with high-end hardware, fits lots of storage drives, 89 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:47,120 and uh hopefully won't be too constricted when it comes to airflow. 90 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:51,880 Worst case scenario, we'll drill some holes in the front, bring back the 91 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:51,880 cheese grater aesthetic. 92 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:06,160 For cooling, we've gone with an NZXT Kraken 360 because, well, we had 93 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:12,080 mounting hardware and with this triple radiator, it was able to handle our 32 94 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:14,319 CPU cores under full load, at least at 95 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:18,160 their default speeds. Uh, the system does support overclocking, but it's 96 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:23,440 really not something that we would recommend for a pro machine in a 97 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:26,319 production environment. Anyway, now while you watch this delightful little 98 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:33,440 montage of our cooler being installed, I'd like you to think back to when I said this motherboard has the PCIe slot 99 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:40,800 spacing we needed. That is because for our build, we're using not one but two 100 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:43,360 of MSI's RTX 4090 Supreme cards. Yes, my 101 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:48,319 friends, Apple is what it took for NVIDIA's pricing to finally seem so 102 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:51,039 reasonable that you can just put in two. 103 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:55,120 However, there's a twist. The keen item among you might have noticed that one of 104 00:07:52,479 --> 00:08:00,240 my cards is air cooled and one of them has water cooling. That my friends is 105 00:07:57,759 --> 00:08:07,280 because we couldn't find any combination of motherboard and case that could fit 106 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:08,800 two air cooled 4090s. And then well when 107 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:15,919 we wanted two of the liquid cool ones, we found out gosh darn it AI rush in 108 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:18,720 China there's now a 4090 shortage. So, 109 00:08:15,919 --> 00:08:22,560 we asked our trustworthy bro Ryan from the LTT Store support team if we could 110 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:27,280 borrow his aircooled variant, and we used our one remaining liquid cooled 111 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:31,280 variant. That way, we've got two of the same cards, but with slightly different 112 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:36,399 hats. Now, since the shortage, prices for 113 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,519 these have gone up a fair bit, but still 114 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:47,240 think we're going to end up looking pretty good by comparison. 115 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:47,240 Let me deal with that. Anywh 116 00:08:47,279 --> 00:08:56,000 who, to power this mess, we went with the Silverstone Hela 2050R Platinum or 117 00:08:52,800 --> 00:09:01,279 SST HA2050R-PM 118 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:03,760 for short. It costs a whopping $670, 119 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:10,560 which only sounds like a bad deal until you compare it to the Mac Pro. Ah, 120 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:14,560 reasonable. Now that the build's done, all we got to 121 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:20,880 do is fire it up and run some benchmarks. Now, 122 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:22,640 our final price not that far off, but 123 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:29,200 for fun, we're going to include results with both GPUs as well as with only one 124 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:30,959 GPU because a little bird told me, 125 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:34,240 bird named Elijah, that it'll still win even with just one 126 00:09:32,959 --> 00:09:40,399 GPU. Yes. Good job, bird. Spoiler alert. 127 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:43,839 I stuttered. I'm sorry. Okay, I up the shot. 128 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,760 No, I loved it. It was great. Editor, please cut around and make me 129 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:48,959 look good. Can you please freeze frame? Cut around 130 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:54,640 him. Put me in a beach, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like make me look good. 131 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:59,839 Give him like a Tom Celic mustache. And like you don't know who Tom Celich is. 132 00:09:57,839 --> 00:10:02,880 He's the Seleian one. What does that mean? Couldn't help 133 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:08,399 noticing, Elijah. We're off to a pretty bad start here. Our system didn't even boot up. 134 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:14,000 Error code 0D. You think you've seen little PP energy? That's zero PP energy. 135 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,800 And they're booted. Finally, 136 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:23,519 PCs. Yay. But which one's faster? Classroom. And go. Wait up. 137 00:10:20,959 --> 00:10:25,680 That's what is it? F12? I don't know. I don't know. Is there a 138 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:30,880 hotkey to render? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. 139 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:34,800 It is F12. There you go. Go. I got F12 on a Mac. What is this? 140 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:37,600 Command option F12. Oh, I don't know. I was just guessing. 141 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,560 I get that. If anyone should have had the head start, it should have been you. 142 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:44,320 Spoiler. Are you done? Uh, no. I 143 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,200 Oh, no. It's still going. Yes, I am going much faster than you, 144 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,880 though. Oh, wow. Yes, you are. 145 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,160 All right, I finished. I'm not even halfway. 146 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,519 You started late. You started late. What? Let's give it the benefit of the doubt. We'll let it heat up, catch up. 147 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:02,320 You know, I started like 5 seconds after you. 148 00:11:00,959 --> 00:11:06,240 So quiet, though. It sounds like it's barely doing anything. Wait, 149 00:11:04,959 --> 00:11:10,720 since we're still waiting for the Mac anyway, why don't you run a GPU intensive test and see if they spin up? 150 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:14,240 Yeah, sure. We'll run Cinebench. We'll see what it can what results it can give us. You Oh, you finished. 151 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:18,160 Yeah, I finished. Yeah. Total time. Oh, 246 was the end 152 00:11:17,839 --> 00:11:22,040 result. Ivon's so proud of me. 153 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:29,600 Here we go. Boom. It's starting. Oh, hey, you've got a running back. 154 00:11:27,680 --> 00:11:33,120 Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. GPU start. Hey, my fans are spinning. 155 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:37,120 Definitely louder. Is it? Yeah. No, I mean louder than the Mac. 156 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:42,480 Like this thing just gets silent. Yeah. I mean that's what happens when you hook a 157 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:44,240 Raspberry Pi up to a heat sink this big. 158 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:47,279 It's not a Raspberry Pi. It's a powerful computer. It's an Apple Pi. 159 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:53,200 Yeah. Don't feel bad. Your computer's really powerful. Good boy. 160 00:11:51,279 --> 00:11:57,200 Okay. This is This has rendered this multiple times. We're getting about 161 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:01,440 65,000 points, give or take. It's doing it over and over and 162 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:06,000 preparing. It hasn't even started. 163 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:12,320 Just run it like four times. Remember the first gen when Apple was all our GPU 164 00:12:08,959 --> 00:12:14,720 was like, "Yeah, 165 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:20,560 and NVIDIA's like, what are you even talking about?" Okay, that was the 3090 166 00:12:18,079 --> 00:12:23,440 if I recall correctly, not the 4090. But still, 167 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:27,279 it has done this multiple times while it's trying to finish this one. It's 168 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:31,360 kind of insane how it's just crushing it. 169 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:37,200 There it goes. It finally finished one. 9,500 points. 170 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:40,560 We are over six times that. What was our difference in price? 171 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:45,440 Give or take like a couple hundred bucks depending on sales of parts. 172 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:47,279 But Final Cut, the ecosystem. 173 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:52,720 I get my Windows phone back. Please bring it back. Dozens of people are so upset right now. 174 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,920 Is the noise difference enough that you would prefer to buy the Mac over this? 175 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,040 No. This is still a really quiet machine. We should put the side panel on in 176 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,800 fairness, though. Oh, yeah. Apple's side panel game on 177 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:08,399 fleek. Kids don't say that anymore. How would you know? You're old now. 178 00:13:06,399 --> 00:13:12,240 Let's do the CPU version of Cinebench first before we completely write this 179 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:15,600 thing off, though. And they're off. Coming out of THE GATE STRONG. WE'VE GOT 180 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,240 NOBODY. Nobody is coming out of the gate strong. Wa. Hold on a second. 181 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:22,079 This is actually closer. Yeah, this may be a competition. 182 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:26,399 Oh, okay. Oh, PC PRO 2 IS PICKING up speed. It's 183 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:30,320 coming out ahead on the first turn. So, I'm going to stop that now. Yeah, please do. Yeah, 184 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:32,639 this one had like a moment where I thought, "Hey." 185 00:13:32,079 --> 00:13:37,920 Yeah. Hey. Yeah. No. 186 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:40,160 Hey. Yeah. What? 187 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:44,160 Cuz you said, "Hey." Yeah. It's a song. Oh, I don't get it. 188 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:49,760 Do we have scores yet? Yes. 3,000 2,000. 189 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,720 Oh, this one's not even done still, though. Oh, does it give preliminary scores? 190 00:13:51,519 --> 00:13:56,480 Yeah, I think it's interesting. Estimating what it's going to be. Okay. Well, 191 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:59,120 it's almost done it or it's like halfway done its second one, though. And this 192 00:13:57,839 --> 00:14:06,160 one's not done. It's first. It took a bit to spool up. Yeah. Here we 193 00:14:01,839 --> 00:14:07,839 go. Final scores. 3,000 and change. 194 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:11,360 1,900 and change. Wow. Wow. 195 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:17,839 50% faster on CPU. Apple Silicon has been a huge win for 196 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:19,360 them in mobile. Mac Mini. 197 00:14:17,839 --> 00:14:23,040 Super cool machine. The Studio as well cuz we're not we're 198 00:14:21,519 --> 00:14:27,360 just dissing this one because it's the same spec, but it's like what? $3,400. 199 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:32,880 We said expensive. You're paying $3,500 200 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:34,720 for a fancy case and some PCIe slots. 201 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:38,480 You don't even have expandable RAM in it anymore like you used to. 202 00:14:36,079 --> 00:14:42,639 And that's the problem. We like silicon because of its efficiency. And you know, 203 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,399 we love silicon. Can't say that. 204 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,519 Apple silicon. Oh, we love Apple. It's silicone. 205 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:53,279 What? Nobody is talking about that. They're different. 206 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:56,959 What? Silicon. Yeah. is an element. 207 00:14:56,079 --> 00:15:01,120 Okay. Silicone is a compound that contains 208 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:07,760 silicon. So, they're the same. No, that's like saying that water is the 209 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:12,560 same as oxygen because there's oxygen in it. 210 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:16,800 I understand now. We got there, ladies and gentlemen. For 211 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:20,399 LOL's gaming. Sure. Let's play game. So, CS2, 212 00:15:19,199 --> 00:15:25,839 Counter-Strike 2 it is. I was going really fast. Yeah, that's pretty fast. How fast could 213 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:29,279 you download the game? Delete it and reinstall it. All right, manage. Uninstall. 214 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,720 Here we go. 1.5 215 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:36,079 1.6. Is the Mac going to win the game 216 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:39,360 download benchmark? Oh, no. Oh, did we beat it? 217 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:44,320 Three. Yes, we passed. Okay, we beat it for 3.1. One thing I will say that is a W though, 218 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:48,160 that boots way faster. Yeah, that was a problem we had with the last 219 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:54,720 Mac Pro killer as well, was that one took a while to boot. Workstation 220 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:56,880 platforms on PC tend to be 221 00:15:54,720 --> 00:16:00,240 poorly optimized, but hey, you can download games at 3.4 Gbit per second 222 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,360 compared to 2.8. Wait, is Counterstrike 2 not available 223 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,880 from Mac? Did you check? It's not available for Mac, so it's trying to get you to launch it. 224 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,720 Oh, for Christ. I didn't even realize that. Okay, Rocket League, 225 00:16:09,279 --> 00:16:14,800 Rocket League's not launching either. Is Are you sure this is It doesn't work on the M Silicon. 226 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:19,279 Okay. Are you Were you just trying to make a point that nothing works or were we supposed to compare this? I was 227 00:16:17,839 --> 00:16:23,360 trying to make a point that it's very difficult. There's very select games 228 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,959 that you know you may or may not get to play the ones you want. 229 00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:32,000 Were you? Or did you think they worked? I totally was doing it on purpose. It is 230 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:38,480 one of my f Whoa. Sound boomer enabled. Okay. Very cute. 231 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:41,120 Sound boomer is not a real thing. What 232 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:45,839 speaker is that? Is it just playing off the speaker? 233 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,880 That sounds like it. Eh, is that a thing? I didn't know that was 234 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:53,839 a thing it could do. Well, where's your PC Pro built-in 235 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:57,680 speaker at? Okay, fine. I guess you got me on that 236 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:03,040 one. All right. I don't have a speaker embedded in my computer. 237 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:06,559 To be clear, Linux is a piece of Windows 238 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:09,360 is a piece of So, when I say macOS is 239 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:13,760 also sometimes problematic. Don't get upset. You know, why can't I type right 240 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:17,679 now? You know, I'm clicking this box. I'm highlighting this text. 241 00:17:16,079 --> 00:17:21,679 It's not that my keyboard's not working. Oh, look. Spotlight. Oh, good. Wait, I 242 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:27,199 think I figured it out. Keystroke receiving. Dusk would like to receive 243 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:29,600 keystrokes from any application. So, like clicking. 244 00:17:28,799 --> 00:17:34,160 I don't. Is that what it's asking? So, it wants 245 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:39,840 access to the keyboard to play. I'm exhausted just trying to open one 246 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:42,000 stupid game. Oh, wow. This mouse is 247 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:46,640 really laggy. Imagine the bottom charging port not being the worst thing 248 00:17:43,679 --> 00:17:46,640 about it. 249 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:51,919 Hey, wave two shotgun. Let's go. I mean, it looks kind of smooth. I can't 250 00:17:50,559 --> 00:17:55,360 tell what you're feeling with the mouse, though. Does it feel rubbery? 251 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:58,160 Oh, no. It's Well, the mouse is terrible, but the actual game is fine. 252 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:03,280 Okay. Yeah, it's running super smooth. Yeah. So, why don't I have an FPS counter? 253 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:06,400 Dumb question. Did it actually enable? I don't know. Okay, I'll tell you what. 254 00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:09,760 Elijah is going to find at least one game that runs on both of them. We're 255 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:14,720 going to have a little graph right here, but spoiler alert, it's not going to be 256 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:19,679 pretty because the raw horsepower of the GPUs in the PC Pro 2 is vastly greater. 257 00:18:17,679 --> 00:18:24,080 And remember that in games, we aren't even able to make use of both of them 258 00:18:21,919 --> 00:18:30,400 because NVIDIA no longer supports Envy Link or SLI at all for that matter on 259 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:32,000 consumer cards. Jerks. So, okay, Lionus, 260 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:35,840 we hear you. Apple is expensive and none of their products are good. But that's 261 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:40,080 not what I'm saying. There are some arguments, strong arguments for many of 262 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:44,320 Apple's products. There's the power and portability of the MacBook, the 263 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:47,760 efficiency of the Mac Studio, or my personal favorite, the Mac Mini. That 264 00:18:45,919 --> 00:18:52,880 thing is a powerhouse. Or the convenience of AirPods, which I happen 265 00:18:49,919 --> 00:18:59,520 to daily drive. It's just that the Mac Pro is so bad that Apple will almost 266 00:18:56,559 --> 00:19:04,960 certainly can it. By which I don't mean turn it into a can. Again, 267 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:08,080 I remember that. I mean, discontinue it. I mean, even Apple's most ardent 268 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:12,720 defenders are starting to realize that Apple's pricing, especially with Halo 269 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:18,080 products like this, just doesn't make any sense anymore. If you search for the 270 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:23,120 M2 Ultra Mac Pro, almost every article or video, reaches the same conclusion. 271 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:27,039 It's dumb. There are some things that it does do well. I mean, like the Mac 272 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:31,200 Studio because it's the exact same machine. 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