okay so I know it's been a while since
we've said this because quite frankly
most of the time lately there just really hasn't been any excuse for our
lateness I think it's these lights that's why we're
pale okay not not what I was talking about at all but I you know I like your
effort it's why you're still here he drives real hard folks
real hard Brandon get other lights that don't make me look so dead hey Plus for
effort um so I know I haven't said this in a while but really today we were like
this close not to being on time but to being like pretty close to we were like
5 minutes off or something like it was actually okay we were about s minutes
late and basically I was dropping the sponsor spots into
place and this is really weird like this
is this is kind of cool because I got a
firsthand look into the inner workings of the mind of Windows 10 um where xplit
the like the program window was here
here you know what I'll just uh oh I don't think I have a scene where I can
screen share with you guys I will create one very quickly that's going to get
okay so I could you got picture picture that's going to lag out super hard uh
that's a pretty good computer should be okay all right
task manage that that sh 177% CPU
y'all yeah that's right 47 wow we put a
4770k in this and that was all on Paul and Kyle's behalf if I recall correctly
cuz we we were we were CRA we the stream was dropping frames because we had two
guests or something along those lines I think anyway so the point is I could see
my xsplit window it was kind of here I'm reenacting this for you guys and I could
see us moving around and things moving in the frame and I could actually right
click on the desktop but and I can number lock was
working but it was the most bizarre thing because I couldn't click anything
start menu wasn't coming up and even pressing the front button was not
resetting the computer but number lock was working I was like this computer's
responding so I was like okay well hard
shut down going to bork my Windows again went
just boot it up and the motherboard's all like oh you're CSM boot settings
it's stable you need to change these things to whatever if you want to do
anything go to the secure boot settings I'm like oh not this again so I go and I
go I set it to a bunch of things and then I set it to full auto and I reboot
it again and I kind of go now just hold on a minute here my voice isn't quite
back yet folks and I go into the actual boot
devices and there's nothing in there no drive no Drive
what do you mean no Drive where's my drive why not say there's no boot device
found right that's what my laptop was doing I'm using a John's laptop actually
my the SS the MS m SATA drive in my
laptop died so I've swapped that anyways no big deal but it was just like oh new
no boot device that's fine where was that eror assus so so anyway so mean it
takes me like 12 minutes or whatever to diagnose this so I'm I go I go down I
look at the computer it's plugged in so I kind of go well that's what happened
my SSD died while I was operating the
computer I don't ask for much from this
computer two hours a week it doesn't even go into sleep it it shuts down
everything but two hours a week and honestly it's only really supposed to be
like an hour and a half a week and it's on a UPS so like it gets the best power
in the building I ask for so little and
it's just no no whatever lonus big old big old F you lonus because I hate you
and you know what I hate you too computer anyway new SATA cable boots up
we're ready to go but we're late and on
top of that I just wasted another five minutes explaining why we're late we
haven't even inted topics yet making us even later unless you've watched it on
YouTube you don't know what we're going to talk about I want a refund can you get that for this show on
time oh wow I want a refund what does that even mean
I don't know I don't know but what I do
know is that PornHub released some stats
from their site showing that their traffic compared to typical averages
lowered immediately after the Fallout 4 launch telling us something that I'm
pretty sure we all know uh Tim Cook declares the end of the PC ushers in the
age of the iPad Pro also Broadwell e specifications have
leaked and Pokemon on gen one is coming to 3DS
3DS intro tag
yeah oh my God the intro worked the intro always works these days man wasn't
it like two weeks ago that it didn't work this is so funny people are like
15% of the traffic was Luke hey I mean
that's
fair sponsor
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squash oh man I got to do something about that voice okay see this is the
trick this is the trick yeah if I make it blank now then it'll work next time I
just always forget we should have a script that just does that you know what
we should have is we should have like a checklist for the end of the show
because I swear it has been a month since I've remembered to pull down the
hey we're live tweet and Facebook post and then inevitably inevitably people
are like hey how come you took down the
archive okay for one the video is called
we're live it's not called The W show
okay the W show has been running for like two
years the wano has never been called
we're live not once and number two I
understand your confusion and it's completely my bad this is my way of
apologizing he likes to Apologize by making you feel like it's your fault but
then also admitting guilt in some way
yes it's that way works best for everyone so let's get into
it you know I'm at that stage where I'm like feeling pretty much better but
there's like a gigantic lugie somewhere between like my nose and my throat like
kind of in here somewhere and like it's annoying you can't really do anything
about it I think I just swallowed it oh that's
better or worse in other news about swallowing PornHub
oh you know that doesn't happen
much it could it could but it does there's probably like a whole category
for that probably actually actually oh probably I'm probably just missing the
right keyword um all right so this was posted
originally on the Forum by uh Sam fiser
and the original Source here is from Venture beat let's go ahead Sam fer wow
screen share with you guys so pornh hub's traffic dipped significantly the
day that Fallout 4 came out confirming
once and for all that
Gamers um who are on the internet
sometimes on their computers might occasionally partake in the uh in the uh
Hub of porn website I think that's what it's called right hub of porn I wouldn't
know much about it myself great yeah yeah okay h porn website so so in the in
the time after the Fallout here I'm I'm going to go back to this graph so in the time after the Fallout release uh
basically this is a traffic change among Gamers specifically so the actual dip is
probably less significant because PornHub has actually used Google data in
order to um segment their their overall
traffic into just the traffic that's also interested in gaming well that
makes sense then which makes sense almost
too groomed I I wish it was overall
traffic nothing can be too groomed oh wow yes okay I wish it was overall
traffic not just gaming fans that would be a way more interesting statistic I
didn't realize that and that makes this way more boring yeah so so anyway so in
so the the traffic change after the Fallout for release you can see it was
down as much as 10% however after looks like I don't
know what three four five 15 or so hours
of continuous gaming it was time for PornHub and then time to go to bed well
that looks like on the first night they
gamed a bit and then had a little no no
that's 4:00 a.m. then 400 p.m. so that's a 24hour period you're looking at it's a
little more a little more it's the 30 hour or so period so the first night it
comes out they play a little bit then they're like ah I got to go work in the morning have some fun time go to sleep
work work work work work do whatever do whatever do do whatever play again the
next day and then now everyone's had a little bit more Fallout time so they're
more inclined to spend a little bit of time before going to bed doing other
things and then everyone's like okay whoop and then go back to bed okay so
this is probably going to be the worst straw pull we've ever
done that's saying a lot
um so does a hot
new game release you should just go full
bore and make it faap on night one versus fap on night two versus fap on
night not going to do that that's just no does a hot new game
release affect your all right
schedule so we're going to go with uh yes
no and really those are the only options because there's there there's not
there's not really a whole lot to it beyond that so I'm going to go ahead and
drop that in the twitch chat love to hear from you guys about this one I'm
going to go ahead and vote okay oh wow the results are pouring
in bouncing back and forth they are wow this is the people are the the two the
two wow everything everything is jockeying for position this this is the
tightest pole that we have ever run some
might say warmest warmest no one would say that but possibly not most inviting
best groomed perhaps so we've got the majority of you
it looks like it's settling in a little bit we've got the majority of you saying
no a hot new game release is not enough to get you off of your schedule with a
third of you saying yes indeed it would
and 28% of you voting for turnup the way you know you should yep all right let's
go ahead and move on to our next topic here I can't believe anyone even
sponsors this show it's uh sort of
horrible I mean it's great but in just sort of a horrible way or it's horrible
in a great way yeah I love this show all right so posted by Z mule on the Forum
the original article here is from the telegraph you're posting links today
right awesome okay we got this Tim
C declares the end of the PC and hints
at new medical product okay so uh I don't know but wow
that's great this article on Telegraph has 1,600 comments it's amazing how
cyclical this whole argument ends up
being um so anyway I I'll give you guys some context for this this so here
here's the here's the quote if you're looking at a PC this is Tim Cook why
would you buy a PC anymore no really why
would you buy one and then he continues um yes the
iPad Pro is a replacement for a notebook or a desktop for many many people they
will start using it and conclude they no longer need to use anything else oh
right we make phones other than their phones I added that that bit about oh we
make phones I guess we need to sell those too um the really weird thing here
is Apple also makes PCS pretty decent ones last time I
checked and also last time I checked their PC market share was Rising not
lowering um I Rising falling not lowering I can't find the graph but
someone made a info graph based on the
people claiming that the PC was dead over time and I forgot I should have had
that in here for this segment but it's amazing CU it's been going on since like
a really long time ago like in like the
crazy the PC spaces exploding era people
have been saying it since then so why don't we take turns answering uh Mr
Cook's question here um if you're
looking at a PC why would you buy a PC
anymore no really why would you buy one one answer one answer at a time one
answer at a time am I first yeah you know the first one's too easy well I
think there's a lot that are too easy actually so go ahead gaming okay gaming
you can game on an iPad Pro no it's the it's the job okay yeah
no no I am going to we have to take turns I want to play games that can't be
played on iPad Pro uh well then you should probably Lobby that developer to
develop for the iPad Pro the iPad Pro is extremely powerful because the game it's
not powerful enough though it's not powerful enough okay all right so you
want a machine that can game and is powerful all right I got argument number
two maybe just
maybe I want a peripheral that is not
Bluetooth well you should probably and does not require an external like dongle
you should probably learn to use modern peripherals you're just behind the times
this is going to get confusing for viewers my modern peripherals are just
fine sir that is a stupid argument and mine is a good one you're next um I I
need to uh have interesting input
devices that I can't have on an iPad Pro that's basically mine rephrase try again
no no no because of like capture cards and whatnot if I'm rendering video I
said I wanted peripheral devices that are not Bluetooth were you not talking
about keyboard or Mouse no it just peripherals I could be a printer I it
could be a printer okay printers a peripheral okay
um I don't know enough about the iPad Pro to be completely Fair basically it's
a big IAD and it's
faster what could you need to do with a p see that you can't do with an iPad all
I really do with it is play games right oh well okay well fine I'll come up with
other things how about an external display okay what if I want to
peripheral actually multitask okay arguably that is a peripheral so I'm
repeating my own argument you said peripheral which took away to out of the
argument damn maybe he's right maybe he's right what if I want to upgrade it
what if I want to upgrade it but that was part of the not fast enough thing oh
oh crap cuz we said it's not fast enough okay and we said we want to be able to
plug more things in no we will come up with something and then games Falls in
under the same category as Windows only applic I need access to my file system
you can't do that on iPad Pro no it's just iOS I don't use them I don't know
it's just a big iPad that's pathetic they have changed nothing it doesn't
even have Force touch I need massively expandable storage okay uh the cloud local no no
the cloud the cloud is the answer to everything I need it to be privately secure in fact the cloud is the answer
to your game G too cloud gaming cloud storage
done I don't I don't accept that um I
need to be able to play my games offline I need local secure I mean I think we've
made our point I I mean to to I knew
more about what people actually use iPads for i' I'd probably be able to
have more arguments I think honestly that's a more interesting discussion at
this point not what you can't do on an iPad because that's kind of an endless
topic but what can you do on an iPad I don't use them I literally don't know
you can shop on Amazon you can check your email it's all the usual things I
mean the main difference here okay and we can use this we can use this to
springboard into you know what the iPad
Pro is as much as anything else because
and our my favorite iPad Pro review so far uh is this one over on over on RS
Technica where I think the the the headline pretty much says it Mac like
speed with all the virtues and restrictions of iOS because
it does bring some interesting new peripherals to the table there is
finally an apple sanctioned official
keyboard cover and the similarity to something like a Surface Pro type
cover is definitely a thing um and they
have the pencil which is a stylus but it
is a apparently you just use an iPad for porn you can use a computer for porn
yeah so so it's one of those things where uh and we'll talk more about
steemo steo later but it's one of those things where I I don't especially with
the way that it's priced which is kind of uh beating down the door of devices
like a Surface Pro 4 and even Apple's
own MacBook lineup um at the kind of price that it's at I just don't really
understand why I'm taking a a half ass
keyboard and no trackpad it does have the pencil so it
does have a stylus but it lacks any
Mouse e any mouse or trackpad input um I
don't understand why I'm giving that up for the sake of I can detach the
keyboard I guess and the screen is bigger I'm
trying to watch people talk about what they actually use them for so far I got
keep all my school books in one place which like so it's a eBook or a laptop
okay one of the two yeah um porn yeah
your phone yeah um well screen's pretty
small and that's like it
so I mean to me this is not so much a
problem with the with with what Tim Cook is I think trying to say and that's that
the iPad Pro is like everything that
like uh where's that where's that other where's that other uh
shoot where's that other quote I think this was you can technically Video Edit
on an iPad Pro yeah so so it's a it's
not like no no everything he said is just kind of wrong he said okay yes the
iPad Pro is a replacement for a notebook or a desktop for many many people and if
you use it within the right narrowed scope yeah so I think to say that for
many many people and apple is or no okay
I shouldn't say apple because I meant the fruit not the company but in the context of this discussion that could be
very confusing to say for many many people a trackpad is a replacement for
the mouse would be true
because functionally you can kind of use
them for the same stuff but I and this
I've said this before uh in my MacBook 2015 retina
review I've got stuff to do I need a mouse because it's faster and actually
objectively better if you've like got stuff to do if I'm just hanging around
watching YouTube videos on my computer I don't need a mouse because I'm not in a
hurry I've got all the time in the world and I think that's kind of what's being
said here yes the iPad Pro is a replacement for notebook or desktop for
many many people if those people don't really have anything to do or they're
like they need something to to sketch on
but I I I like I don't oh I don't understand why they're using this
instead of like a Windows-based wcom
tablet which has already existed for a couple of years for people who legitimately want to use the fully
featured Adobe Creative Suite on a portable device with a legitimately
excellent pen and digitizer experience
um with that said the overall feedback on Apple's pencil stylus seems to be
pretty good so far from reviews but they're not out there in the wilderness
and this is really crazy the iPad Pro is out but the stylus is delayed again so
you actually would just be buying a big iPad with a keyboard and and I mean I
mean this this is another thing going back to the keyboard like I don't really
personally think that an extra couple inches on the screen no CH dramatically
changes the iOS experience enough
combined with a keyboard that this is a gamechanging device I mean I personally
this is something I went usable I
personally went through the experience of back in the iPad 2 days uh Logitech
and they actually have a new peripheral for the iPad Pro but Logitech had a
Bluetooth keyboard slard aluminum cover
really nice accessory for the iPad 2o I
personally bought hundreds of them when I worked at NC I like busted my butt I
was like this thing is going to be a hot mover it takes everything that's great about the iPad and makes it so you can
actually pipe on the damn thing that thing was a disaster it was so hard for
me to get rid of them and so what so
people have changed their minds that much already I don't think so
um so lots of people talking about oh uh
sure oh there's one extra word uh two
extra things so okay go for it um so
lots of people in the chat are bringing up the horrible horrible horrible
horrible things that happened in Paris um yes wait oh are we done with the iPad
thing are we completely changing okay we don't technically have to but we've been
talking about it for quite a while yeah okay so yeah yeah we're done so basically in short uh don't expect an
iPad Pro review from me because I don't really care it is not a PC it does not
replace a PC it's a big iPad and that'll be good for some things like in a
classroom where a bigger thing to read a story book to the kids on the iPad might
be nice that's what I think it's for okay go anyways um super important super
terrible things happening in Paris uh yes we know um we're mainly not
addressing it because we're probably not the right people addressing we're still
a tech show yes I would it is super important and if you do want to be
informed I would very much recommend going and checking it out I know there's
at least two of the top things on the front page of Reddit are about Paris
right now those are probably good links to go get yourself informed I'm sure
people in chat will probably be able to help you if you're looking for
information um and you'll be able to find it all over the Internet it's a
huge thing right now um but yes we are
probably not the right people and I feel like if we spoke about it we wouldn't be
adding to the conversation for one and
might accidentally spread misinformation which would be the worst thing to do
right now so y maybe go Che in short
there are attacks and Paris has closed their borders um and yeah that's very
much a developing developing thing right now so yeah I think it's safe for us to
say you know our hearts go out to the people of Paris I love Paris that's
actually the the city that I chose that was my grad present is I could go
anywhere in the world for I think it was like 10 days or something like that also
I had to take my mother um and I went to Paris and it was freaking awesome and
people should not attack Paris I think we can all agree on that yeah all right
so moving back to Tech news uh Intel's
Skylake Speed Shift technology has been
deployed now this is stuff that was built into the CPU back when it was
released and this was posted on the Forum by numlock 21
the article here is from a nonch but basically what this amounts to is a more
advanced kind of a more granular version
of the of the speedstep technology that already existed that allows the CPU to
dynamically adjust its power and speed settings as it's being used
so uh so this is cool so in the
past the operating system was fully in
control of this process and the CPU itself was just capable of all these
different Power States now with operating system support and this has
been added to Windows 10 the OS can actually hand control of the frequency
and voltage back to the processor so in
short there's uh there's an Intel provided graft here that graft excuse me
graph here that shows with speed shift enabled how quickly it can cycle up to
different Power States so you can see the I believe this is frequency yep so
this is frequency versus time in milliseconds we are talking getting from
uh a a low lower power state to the
highest one in a matter of what is this
like 15 milliseconds or something along those lines versus about
120 milliseconds without Speed Shift
enabled so this is going to be particularly important for things like
mobile processors where the difference between your base clock and your very
low power steps when you've got speed Step At Its very very low states to say
battery so this is going to make a big difference to the responsiveness of
tasks when that mobile processor that has a huge disparity between its base
and its boost clock is able to quickly go okay you're doing something boom I'm
done and oh now I'm way back down so you
know say for example when you're navigating to a web page that puts a
very short very sudden very very
shortterm load on the processor and now that will be able to take better
advantage of the actual power that you've got under the hood of your device
than was possible in uh the past which can give you responsiveness in little
tight timings which can actually make your computer feel a lot faster than it
actually the the change actually is yeah responsiveness is more important than
you know how quickly can you render out you know a video that is going to take
either you half hour 35 minutes or whatever which is awesome but like that
5 minutes will feel like a much shorter period of time than when cuz you'll
probably go do something yeah um compared to if you're sitting there
literally staring at the screen waiting for something to load so this is cool
this tells us a little bit about it so an ontech ran PC Mark 8 because somehow
they managed to get that Bloody program to run I swear like and you know what we
must just be snake bitten because I I love futur Mark those guys are nice and
I love most of the software that they make but PC Mark man every single time
people people often ask me why don't you run PC mark on like your laptop reviews
and stuff maybe 10 to 20% maybe 30% of
the time that I've just sat down and gone okay I'm going to run PC mark it
has worked for a while I was actually using the battery life test in my
notebook videos so I I used it in I think two and then I went to use it for
the uh the Dell rugged uh laptop and it
just three times just failed like would
stop working it would just the the computer would go to sleep when the
device still had 40% battery I'm just like this is not useful every time we
get to Scrapyard Wars we get to deciding on one of those style of tests I'm just
like H oh dear we went through what
three different versions of PC Mark to find one that would work to find one
that we managed to run and even then I think we oh I'm this is spoilers okay
stay tuned for more scrapyard War how is it still coming out it's still coming
out I'm on the fan side on this one it's way too long you know what but it was
one of those things where it ended up being a result of us taking the whole
thing and going okay what's good here because a lot of the time stuff that was
good enough to make it into this version ended up on The Cutting Room floor
because of just time constraints last time so I think the ha Hazard approach
almost worked better last time the problem was because it was too light and
then last time had its own whole set of problems I know so like we decided on
this before we so we'll reeval and we'll take another crack at it and
that's pretty much all there is to it all right um so anyway there's some more benchmarks for Speed Shift that show
that in some cases it does make a very significant difference uh in other cases
it's much smaller um but yeah there you
go battery efficiency ever so slightly improved I love those in on Tech guys
they do such a good job this is all good stuff y it's not it's not a m it's I
doubt it's going to be a major gamechanging thing but like it's cool uh
what's interesting is that the OS can relinquish not necessarily all but just
some of the power State um some of the
power States so it could control it within this range or that range or the
whole thing that's cool very cool stuff yeah do you know if you're going to have
to enable this or is it automatically running that I actually on the side I'm
assuming on the CPU side it's probably enabled by default I suspect it works on
its own I cannot tell you the only thing that made me think of that is because
you said it it can do this or that mhm
all right so this is interesting I mean this is something where it doesn't look
like anyone can get any comment from um
here we go uh from the director of
whatever Ki yeah think it's unlikely that they
could have got did we intro the topic at all no no
we didn't so basically word on the street is that the FBI paid carneg melon
$1 million at least this is all very he
said she said to break tour so the
original article that we have here this was posted by dat speed on the Forum the
original article oh and uh there's the full spe full size ad is from Forbes
here and so the tour project is the one claiming this um and the the objective
they are saying was that was for the FBI to uncloak particular users and find
their true ipss so this is the team responsible for
maintaining the tour anonymizing Network and they're claiming that they paid 1
million to disclose techniques that they discovered that could help uncover the
identities of users neither the FBI nor Carnegie melon have directly confirmed
nor denied anything there was a talk uh
that was supposed to be at black hat 2014 that was cancelled um from two
researchers their names are in here somewhere that were from Carnegie melon
uh that talk was cancelled and was directly pertaining to these kind of
things and people are wondering if that talk was kind of bought out by the FBI
so it wasn't released and then the things that they were talking about in there were released and that talk was
about um being able to un un un
anonymize these people and find the hidden Services which is exactly what
was done so they do actually seem pretty well related yep um so I guess that's
pretty much all there is to really yeah to really say about it Ed Ed I don't
know how to say your last name Ed Des Ed
desautel desel can I help
yous how you say that name desotel yeah it looks like a French
name spokesman for Carnegie melon software engineering Institute did not
deny the accusations directly but told wired I would like to see the
substantiation for their claim adding I am not aware of any payment which is
like B basically like saying I can't say
anything yeah yeah um the site
motherboard reviewed the court filings reviewed court filings that proved the
FBI recruited a research institute that was running systems on tour networks to
uncover the identity of a user of Silk Road 2 uh so that's the drug Marketplace
that replaced the first version of the Silk Road and um yeah I guess that's
pretty much all there is to say about that so nowhere is
safe yeah y yay although that's why you
should run a local Cloud unlike that thing that you can do on an iPad which
is using other clouds oh wow boy um I
guess I I kind of we actually had a separate you know what it's probably
worth going through we had a separate topic for the iPad Pro uh I did Cover a
lot of this though when I was kind of ranting about it before but there are some good things about it iPad Pro again
bro yeah so this supposed to buy Dad speed well it's kind of a big deal
because it replaces desktops and laptops [ __ ] that means like our jobs yeah I
know right we'll just have to make videos about the iPad Pro all day dude I
can put the iPad Pro in a
bomb okay that will make more sense if
you've watched his Fallout 4 build
block yeah um anyway so there is some
cool stuff so the a9x processor uh the same one that was found in the iPhone 6s
has now been over clocked just another way of saying the
clock speed has been increased so it's now even faster and actually quite
competitive with um Intel's real
processors like we're not talking corm it's legitimately looking pretty
competitive with you know a low-end core I3 Core i5 dual core pretty darn
interesting stuff and this is based on some browser based benchmarks as well as
geekbench it also shows little sign of throttling in the geekbench thermal test
pretty darn impressive and with the larger battery thanks to the larger
housing it's able to achieve pretty darn similar battery life to previous iPads
again a very good result the onboard
Graphics are looking very very
favorable uh beating every previous I device and every Intel GPU up to and
including the iris Pro 5200 and Intel HD
520 it does not feature 3D touch something that I'm personally pretty
disappointed brutal 3D touch is actually awesome yeah Apple's done a pretty good
job in the past of uh of of maintaining
their new features sort of across the product line as they refresh them um and
I would have really expected that and this is especially disappointing given
that this is a device that it's so funny because apple is always running around
saying well h no touch screens for our MacBooks because that's
awkward so this is a device where we
were expected to type and touch it yeah
um and they're actually taking away input options from the touch from the
touch input uh multitasking is still quite limited um because it's running
iOS it takes around 4 and a half hours to completely recharge with the included
charge wear if not in use um thanks to
its high capacity battery and it starts at $800 uh the keyboard is
$169 for a keyboard accessory and the
stylus is $100 so you've spent spent
over $11,000 by the time you get even a base 32 gig Wi-Fi model basically I
wouldn't recommend buying it um I've had some pretty I've given some pretty
positive reviews to Apple devices in the last little while um including the
iPhone 6s but this one they're doing really great on the phone side
especially with and like part of the reason why they're doing so great is
that Android is just doing terribly
terms of like security stuff yeah security stuff uh OS updates um customer
support there's a lot of things wrong with Android right now um I'm super
pleased with my new phone those of you who aren't following on vessel won't
know this yet but I have officially switched to the xeria Z5 compact I have
done away with the Droid Turbo it has officially happened after 11 months like
you're actually gonna switch that's done wow I'm done I'm done with the Droid
Turbo I think Taran wants to buy it so that would be a good upgrade for Taran
yeah yeah he needs uh he needs a phone with a camera that works so the Droid
Turbo is definitely that all right let's move on to some Intel news the Broadwell
e upcoming Broadwell e specifications have been leaked this was posted by Mr
troll on the Forum whose name is appropriate given that it's a news item
on LT Forum linking to wccf
Tech so there's actually if this is true
and what I will give wccf Tech and many
of the other rumor mail sites out there what I will give them is that that
typically Intel CPU rumors tend to be
pretty good um Intel is a very very
structured company and generally speaking their road maps
like back when I was working at a retailer the their road maps are pretty
far out and like if if if they are if
they're going to be arriving I think what was it q1
2016 uh blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah later
in 2016 later in
2016 so the uh the Broadwell EP zons are
rumored for q1 2016 with the consumer grade ones coming I think it was later
in 2016 so it would not be unlike Intel
to have a a year out road map that they're showing potential Partners under
NDA but of course how long does it take for wccf Tech to get their hands on that
so in a nutshell we are looking at once
again man it seems like it took forever for them to get past giving us six cores
on that platform but we are getting another two cores for the top end
extreme Edition Cool freaking stuff one of the coolest Parts though is that you
can get an8 core non-extreme Edition yes
so the topend th000 processor is rumored
to be rocking 10 cores and 20 threads at 3 GHz so uh we're looking at a basically
equivalent single-threaded performance in all likelihood with essentially in
heavily multi-threaded workloads that's 3 GHz uh non- turboed yeah non-t turboed
and we don't know the turbo and we don't know turbo clocks um so effectively
whatever sort of 25% performance Improvement in heavily threaded
workloads not bad from generation to generation heck of a lot better than the
Consumer stuff yep yay we're getting treated like enthusiasts again um and
then this is even more interesting sort
of except that we don't know pricing yet and that is that so the 6950x is the
exem Edition the 6900k is apparently going to have eight
cores and 16 threads yeah so you won't have to buy an extreme Edition to get
the8 core experience which is awesome but again yeah we don't know the price
tag but the price probably pretty easy to guess well I would have said that
except that this time around Intel is going to have four
SKS in the Enthusiast stack so for the
last couple of generations like three generations
3960x and then it was 3930 k 382k then
we had the 4960x 4930k
492k and in both of those
cases I believe they were all it was six
core four core four core no six core six core four core I think something along
those lines anyway so this time we get 10 core okay so right so 5960x is eight
core and then both of the lower ones are six core right there was no cheap quad
core previously that's right they were they were six cores or uh or sorry
there's the cheap one is not a quad core this time uh six core six core so this
time you get a 10 core or an eight core
and then there is no quad core very nice so you get definitely something for your
money investing in an x99 motherboard and quad core memory uh quad core quad
Channel memory so this time you definitely get at least two more cores
for your money and you could get up to
also six or eight or 10 but we don't
know what the pricing is going to look like and I wouldn't be that surprised to
see Intel pull another q6600 on us here
so back when they launched their first Quad Core Extreme Edition the qx6700
what happened was they initially launched the q6600 which was their first
non-extreme quad core at like $750 or
something like that like it was quite expensive so I wouldn't be surprised to
see that and then another lower end six
core with kind of the other six core sitting in between that massive price
Gap that now exists between the 582k and the 5930k and the other thing
we don't know yet here is how PCI Express Lanes are going to be handled so
right now while we do get a six a six or an eight core regardless of how much we
spend that bottom tier six core instead of having two F course has 12 fewer PCI
E lanes for Worse expansion if you want to add a bunch of a bunch of cards to it
so what I'm guessing is we're going to
see that low-end 6800k be six cores and few PCI Lanes I
think we're going to get a six core with all the PCIe lanes in between like that
new one that didn't exist before that new price point then we're going to have
eight cores with all Lanes then we're going to have 10 cores with all Lanes um
so that's that's kind of what it looks like to
me I'm really super stoked on Broadwell
EP though as some of you probably know I
have been getting I've been getting more and more into xon stuff and like
enjoying all the cores and you know whether it's using them for our video
editing workflow or whether it's using them for running virtual machines where
we took two two Gamers running on one motherboard which is pretty freaking
cool um so this is this is looking interesting and this uh the official
launch is apparently targeted for q1 2016 so this is E5 600 V4 up to 22 cores
and 44 threads with up to 55 megabytes
of cash per chip holy actual freaking
balls not to mention that memory speed goes up from 2133 to
2400 so we're talking a dual socket machine with up to 44 cores I mean I
thought it was bananas when we did our 36 core machine I wonder what excuse I
could find to tell Intel that I need 222
course I'm going to have to come up with something wait don't you already have
this no I've got 218 course what about
that oh no those are okay so I do have
okay so I've been teasing this for a bit okay we're changing topics a little bit
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what what else are we supposed to talk about today I don't even know there's Pokemon and oh yeah Pokemon your tax
Rebellion thing no this is actually okay this is really interesting okay he
hasn't read this but I believe this was by posted by triari on the Forum our our
resident our resident of tin foil hat wear this is such a topic for you man I
know no it's actually no it's it's it's legitimately pretty interesting so no
I'm just say this just it smells like so
the Welsh Town Crick Howell which is a great name for a town by the way moves
offshore to avoid tax on local business
what okay so this is led by some Traders
including the town salmon smokery local coffee shop Bookshop optician and bakery
what and this tax Rebellion could spread
Nationwide now it it it's important to
be very clear what they are doing they
are not trying to evade taxes for the
sake of evading taxes they uh so blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah up until now blah blah blah blah etc etc etc okay
I can't find the quote that that I was reading uh but but basically that is not
the point the these are these are these are people who presumably at least some
of them okay proudly pay their taxes to support their country and the public
services that they use I pay a lot of
taxes personally and through the business I pay lots and lots of taxes
because I've been working since I was legal aged to work with absolutely zero
interruptions having always paid my taxes and I am proud of that I am proud
to support the social programs that we have here in Canada that take that tax
money that I pay and build a road that not only I can drive on but everyone can
drive on that is the way the system is supposed to work is the system broken
yes the system is broken there are many many significant issues in Canada and in
many other countries pretty much everywhere there are many significant
issues that exist with the way that taxpayer money gets spent oh yeah but
it's a heck of a lot better than Anarchy and so I continue to support it happily
and I do not go out of my way to evade any taxes and I'm proud of that so
that's not what these guys are doing either their point and this is this is
great one of the town's Traders discovered that he paid seven times more
in corporation tax last year than
Facebook which paid
5,000 in corporation tax that is their
point their point is if this loophole is
here then fine we're going to use it and
you got two options option number one is
okay well we're going to play by those rules and we don't pay taxes anymore we pay very very small offshore company
taxes or option number two is tax those
guys they should be paying tax too um they super should and it's super
annoying this loophole uh allowed the likes of Amazon to pay 11.9 million on
5.3 billion of UK sales yeah
amazon.co.uk is sort of a big site I think that's worded oddly I think
they're paying taxes on 11.9 million of
5.3 billion of sales what no taxes of
11.9 million on 5.3 billion of sales
okay yeah yeah that's right don't don't don't worry it's all good um I don't
know what I don't know what ghost is doing neither he's drunk okay that's why
I was assuming there was something wrong anyway the point is um what Joe carthu
who runs the local smoker said is that until now complicated offshore tricks
have only been open to big companies who can afford the lawyers fees now we've
worked out a way to mimic them and they're basically uh this is going to be
a part of a documentary in 2016 as part of BBC Britain's black economy season
and they're basically going okay here's how to do it so we're starting tax
Rebellion if you want to collect any taxes from businesses maybe it's time to
start collecting taxes from everyone in a fair and Equitable manner I love it
this article made me so happy because it
makes absolutely no sense that these
companies are going to are going to you know threaten threaten the government
and go oh well we'll just we'll just like stop paying our lobbying dollars
and we'll just we'll move our operations out if you make us paid
taxes I realistically I don't see that happening but it takes it takes multiple
governments forming a united front against this behavior in order to make
it work and so I I do sincerely worry
that it might not be possible I don't know I don't know because it's I mean
yeah if you're if you're apple is it
cheaper for you to pay tax properly on all your income or is it cheaper for you
to offer the entirety of your Silicon Valley campuses a massive relocation
bonus to move to Canada or move to
somewhere else yeah I I don't know like I don't know I don't know how far this
would escalate before it ended and I
don't know what the landscape would look like when it was over um oh this is this is actually I
have to confess I had not heard of this so this was posted on the Forum by oh no
I don't have a forum post this is just an ours technical link so beware of ads
that use inaudible sound to link your phone TV tablet and PC so privacy
Advocates warn the feds about cous cross
device tracking this is some crappy stuff going
on right here yeah and I hadn't heard of this before if if you're running
software on a smart device so basically
as far as I can tell that's anything that can have an app installed on it
that can have silver push software running at the same time yeah um that
would be able to listen so a microphone of some sort so probably your phone or a
tablet but probably your phone um then
that silver push software can be the audio Beacon and different devices in
your house so your computer if you have speakers on it your TV most likely in
the middle of a commercial can yes uh would be playing extremely high-pitched
noises I'd be interested to see if that's a frequency that dogs can hear
see if the dogs freak out when they hear if your dog would be like you're being
SPID up you like yeah yeah exactly your dog's like no dog meat will save you um
anyways Fallout 4 reference um it's going to play this crazy sound that you
can't hear but that your smart device that has silver push software on could
kind of pick it up so that they can track if people are seeing these things
yeah so this will tell advertisers oh man this will tell data
miners so much more about you personally
than was possible before because I mean we talked about this let's talk about
the iPad Pro again there's certain things that make sense to do on a tablet
and there's certain things that don't make sense to do on a tablet so for
example if an Advertiser uh let's say let's say oh I don't know let's say
Google okay let's say you don't use Chrome on your desktop but you use
Chrome on your iPad so if all that Google knows about you is that you uh
read game reviews and you go to Pornhub
then they'll go okay gamer porn Enthusiast and they might you know try
to figure out based on some you know uh emails you send here and there how old
you are and what your gender is and all that kind of stuff so they've created a
profile for you but what they might not know about you is that you watch um you
show you watch yeah and that you love watching Madmen on TV and that you're
and whether or not you mute the ads that's right whether so so there's all
these things that they that they can't know about you unless they know all
about your devices and the example given in the ARs Technica article which was
excellent was maybe you would research STDs on your computer and then search
for a um you know an you know a a sexual
health clinic on your phone and then you would travel there and come back and
then like now all of a sudden it could go okay you had an STD you went and got
treated and now you're back home and maybe you're better now or maybe you're
not and it can continue to track your search is like being able to track you
across devices raises some serious
privacy concerns um especially because tracking you across devices tells them
exactly who you are there's pretty much no way to anonymous submit data like I
went here I went there I live here um it's not it's not Anonymous anymore and
this is the scariest thing about it silver pushes software is used by 67
apps and which we don't know what those apps are but totals 18 million
smartphones and they've basically what they've basically said is it is against
our policy to disclose what apps are using our
technology what so rip so any app that asks for your microphone and speaker
permissions potentially I don't know any have 67
apps super brutal actually yeah all
right original poster here is tangra and the original article is from ARS
Technica once again I love ARS Technica so this is so funny this is so funny I
called this on W show last week I was like it will take no time flat for the
Linux Army to attack my steam machine
review and tell me about how I'm missing the point because you can enable desktop
mode and the blah blah blah Linux Master race Etc um so it took like a matter of
minutes and I actually tweeted about it when it happened but someone said something along the lines of oh crap
anyway one of their points was that Linux game performance and Steam OS game
performance is actually very similar to Windows when I used the word significant
performance tax or significant performance penalty or something along
those lines um a that wasn't my point in
the video at all because what I was really talking about was the Steam
Machines uh how successful the steam machine was at targeting the demographic
that valve seems to be targeting with it so it was completely I didn't even run
any performance numbers and you're wrong about the other thing because whether
it's Linux we're talking about or whether it is driver issues the
performance tax so they were saying there was no performance tax or it wasn't significant the word I Ed was
significant was has a very specific meaning by the way um it is
significant Middle Earth shadow of morar ouch huge that's so
brutal um so whether it's drivers actually I thought there were oh yeah no
there are more uh middle or Shadow of Mordor medium settings one are actually
ultra settings is very interesting but I don't know how many people are going to run it on that because it brings it from
a very playable frame rate to a not very playable frame rate um but the one that
I like looking at the most is medium because it brings it from a probably
above your monitor refresh rate
defitely not Y and even valve Zone games
with portal falling behind by like 30% are not running on par and the blame is
probably in some cases probably the game developer but in in many cases probably
not and the blame probably falls mostly with the graphics card makers but the
cold hard truth is hold on I'm going to
see if I can find a source for this one of my favorite things okay this is a
little bit unrelated but Metro last Redux and then they go to maximum
settings and it's like doesn't run great on anything unfortunately because it's
super hard to run um 9.5 to 4. yeah
unfortunately I can't find a source for it but so I'm not going to give the
number but someone was telling me that they had heard uh they had heard AMD say
something along the lines of uh that the the the the Linux driver download
percentage was very very very like lower than you'd think very very low the
people who actually desire to run discret graphics cards and Linux is is
very very low and I was really excited
um I I was actually like really really excited by steo when I first heard about
it two years ago oh yeah okay yeah it was yeah yeah so I and and valves like
valves conviction um in their in their
in their movement to to bring gaming to
a more open platform and and I still admire valve's commitment um to bring
their titles and to encourage other developers to bring their own titles to
Steam OS to run on Linux natively and and what's what's cool is for most
Gamers remember most gamers are still running 1080P or lower okay so most
Gamers with decent hardware and remember they could afford hundred extra dollars
on a graphic F card potentially if they don't buy Windows so there goes your
performance tax right there you just buy better Hardware potentially so most
Gamers running at 1080p um are not going to are not going
to demand the kinds of experiences that for now things like VR or multim monitor
multim monitor ifinity gamings like some of those things that just don't work on
Linux due to driver support right now they're not going to need them and and
there and there is potential for that movement to continue one one thing
about the driver download stat is I'm
not super great at Linux I use it fairly often but I'm actually not super great
at it um I I think it's hard to say that
you're super great at Linux to be completely Fair um non-official driver
packs are very very very common yep and
the included drivers are generally better yeah so like the the Am driver
statistic might not be accurate because they're very probably using something
else some I I think Mesa is a popular
common one uh but I could super be wrong but I don't know but like the you use
other things to control your stuff that's one of the reasons why people like Linux but that ties in really well
with the end of my point which is as much as I admire valve's effort and I I
hope for success for Linux gaming in general I don't think Steam OS is the
answer because Steam OS is an arrow with no Bullseye to move towards like it
doesn't know what it's Target it thinks it's targeting mainstream Gamers but
like then it throws a controller at you that not only is different from any
controller you've ever held but requires you to completely rebind everything in
order to even play games a process that can be done and is no problem for a
power user I was able to figure it out it was no big deal and it's very
versatile but Joe Xbox gamer I mean if
it's more complicated than like oh cool a magnetic d-pad alternative it's not
happening not happening so and to be completely honest sometimes I feel like
being a power user and sometimes I'd be like yeah I want to configure this to be
like exactly how I want to run for this exact game and sometimes it's yeah but
if I'm going to play like dirt showdown yeah exactly I do not want I want to
plug in my controller and I never even want to open up the controller submenu I
want to click race race race quick race go yeah that's it yeah because I feel
like vegging that's why I'm playing a game yeah sometimes yeah I'm going to
want a tinker but I don't want to have to Tinker and certain gaming experiences
are worth the effort of tinkering quite frankly it's just that for me like a
racing game or like a a third a third person exploring game is that's what I'm
just like chilling and it's it's all my brain can do to solve whatever Lura
croft's breast physics puzzle of the day is or whatever else
um some of you have been asking about these shirts we're wearing so it's uh
teespring.com Christmas and you can get in a variety
of colors we actually went out of our way to choose ugly colors so um that's
kind of the point it's kind of the point they're called ugly Christmas sweaters
yep now to be clear they are not sweaters they're just t-shirt or they're
excuse me they're just sweatshirts yeah but uh they're ugly what's the
difference between a sweater and a sweatshirt a sweater is woven
oh I had no idea
yeah that actually makes a ton of sense
um Pokemon generation one coming into the 3DS there's an announcement video
you guys can check that out if you're into that sort of thing and that's literally all there is to say on that
topic we don't know uh there there's been speculation as to whether or not I
I guess there is more to say on that topic yeah there's lots to say about it actually there's been speculation as to
whether or not the the old bugs will be in there because there was a lot of them
and I don't mean like bug type Pokemon I mean like miso and and all that kind of
stuff you like that yeah um yeah I like
that I don't know because I I as far as
my knowledge goes a lot of those have to do with how things were stored in memory
so I don't know if that's going to translate properly CU these are Virtual
Console titles for the 3DS yeah but if you're emulating the Game Boy then you
could potentially emulate way I never
emulated red or blue have you have you
tried any of the bugs I did not own a Game Boy or Game Boy Color I have
definitely played through Pokemon Blue I owned two advances I don't own an
advance never did oh wow I I owned an original a color and two
advances I don't like I don't maybe the chat will know if you emulate it or the
bug's still there okay Brandon knows apparently and
when you do emulate it the bugs are still there so maybe it'll work I don't
know good job Brandon thanks
Brandon okay so okay myo definitely works apparently so hopefully they don't
screw with anything but they're fixing some stuff so you can wirelessly trade
Pokemon now is that a fix well it's a
new feature cuz you had to use the stupid Link cable yeah but that's just
connecting that's connectivity of the device well that's that's a feature
upgrade in my mind I don't know if that translates to the game or if that's just
connectivity to the device yeah well either way that's it's it's an improved
experiment it's a it's improves the experience I still have a Link cable of
course you do so red blue and yellow are launching and uh there you go it is uh
yeah February 27th 2016 release I'm not quite sure why it's taking so long but
uh given that emulated Pokemon red blue and
yellow existed for a long time the a really long performance yeah
like like going back to my uh my Napster
days um I Heard Napster coming back I think we talked about yeah I think we
talked about that um you know what i is sort of is unrelated to this but I kind
of wanted to touch on apparently they're doing an HD remake of Twilight Princess
yeah are you for real that game how old is Twilight Princess like six years
old I have to look it up Twilight Princess blah blah blah blah blah blah
Wikipedia thank you that's for the original Wii like it's not even
2006 what I played Twilight Princess 9 years
ago whoa we both just got a really old
moment I think whoa I didn't even consider that
like a collector game for me I have it at home I didn't
think huh we should move on so we don't feel so old again I was I was good oh
wow crap on netlink daily on the NC
Channel I was like ripping into them about doing HD remakes of a game that
would have been HD if the freaking console had had any decent Hardware in
it which is still true by
away that's so brutal but I really oh I
didn't realize it wasn't that old oh my goodness Um T-Mobile is apparently going
to let you stream some video for free
another bold move so they're calling it Benin John man does he not look like
some kind of serial rapist in every picture I was maybe not going to go that
route but he's the serial rapist I love
that's for sure oh wow okay whatever is
doing some stuff look at that scary
face um other stuff happened in the news
uh EVGA is launching a 970 Fallout 4
edition which is probably a little late and stuff but the back Plate's pretty
cool um we should talk more about the t- hobble thing actually it's so YouTube
unfortunately not included neither is Twitch they did say they are working
with you too but Netflix Hulu Showtime
vessel hey uh HBO Go and sling TV are
supported I went to The Vessel offices last weekend oh yeah how was that
there's some freaking cool people and they have a cool modern office we
don't our office is functional we we
have a cool office it doesn't feel very modern Once you walk into the vessel
offices their space is amazing yeah there's Silicon Valley though so
yeah yeah we feel very like where we are
and they feel very like where they
are it's like lus Media Group
pragmatism it's like we have cool stuff
but it's cool stuff with a purpose yeah
pretty much across the board yeah their
stuff has a purpose I just mean like like they have the flat floor with everybody on it
yeah yeah like the only rooms are are meeting rooms and then like the the the
entrance area is like large and they have extensive places to put like bikes
and stuff and there's a ping pong table and they have a large K prob a couple of
electric car charging ports outside they have a large kitchen which is stocked
with like snack food and drinks if you need it there's a hey we have a large
kitchen stocked with snack food I don't put the snack food in
it yeah I don't know their office was cool and they're actually super cool
yeah I had a really cool talk with him cool lot so sorry back to the T-Mobile
thing I was damn it I wasn't done with that so it is it is it is speculated
that the reason that the uncapped video streaming is only offered on certain
Services is that it requires some backend work to compress the data so
that you know T-Mobile isn't going to be stuck with the bill for putting a bunch
of 1080p freaking YouTube videos all over the place um so so the idea is that
it will be optimized for a small screen which makes a whole ton of sense um I
that's really cool that vessel supported I guess it kind of makes sense because
it looks like Hulu is also supported and vessel is the former uh former founder I
believe or CEO at least of Hulu Hulu um
which is kind of cool because like I just kind of chat with him sometimes and
he was in the meeting yeah it's like he's a super smart dude he's super
downto earth guy super smart guy and it's just like I I kind of forget when
I'm talking to him that he's probably a multi bill millionaire he's also like a
big deal at Amazon at some point yeah and stuff one of those like serial
startup people um it's really funny a
lot of people on our Forum underestimate a the number of people watching our
videos on vessel and the impact that vessel has had on our business and
underestimate vessel's chances at continued survival they are not stupid
they are not new and they are not going away so
yeah there's a there's a little bit for you um I guess that's pretty much it you
need to do a shout out for Desert buus yeah okay where's the notes for that at
the very bottom before sponsors uh uh November 14th so tomorrow um
desert bus for Hope is a charity marathon where where for some of you
today yeah actually in Europe but this
is PST time so no it is Pacific Daylight
time or wait no it is Pacific Standard time damn it yes it's Standard Time
right now right yeah okay I think so I don't know yeah yeah minus8 minus 8 GMT
right okay um loading ready run is doing
their desert bus for Hope Charity Marathon which they've been doing for a long time where they play desert bus
Which is the worst most boring
game careful yeah that's why I stopped
maybe not the worst bus is driving through a desert it's it's pretty rough
there some pretty bad games up there yes
um the the bus I I don't remember if it either veers left or right but it slowly
veers One Direction so you have to just keep making it go straight but I think
it auto goes for you and if you screw up you have to restart the whole thing and
it's just it's it's ridiculous they're hilarious it's tons of fun to watch it's
starting at 10: a.m. PST Saturday November 14th their charity website is
just desertbusforhope
have done it not me I didn't do anything
cool um but what I did do is I put
together a list of the cool people and the cool things that they did and the
Afterparty today is going to be all about the honorable mentions and winners
of ultrawide Festival so thank you for
tuning in to the W show today and that is the outro oh I didn't get to wave
there have you had enough waving you good I was just going to go until you cut the
stream damn it oh wait that's an overlay
I thought you put it in the corner I was like I have to keep going
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