WEBVTT 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:10.000 okay so I know it's been a while since 00:00:06.680 --> 00:00:12.679 we've said this because quite frankly 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:17.240 most of the time lately there just really hasn't been any excuse for our 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:22.000 lateness I think it's these lights that's why we're 00:00:19.680 --> 00:00:27.640 pale okay not not what I was talking about at all but I you know I like your 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:33.480 effort it's why you're still here he drives real hard folks 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:38.079 real hard Brandon get other lights that don't make me look so dead hey Plus for 00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:45.320 effort um so I know I haven't said this in a while but really today we were like 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:49.239 this close not to being on time but to being like pretty close to we were like 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:53.640 5 minutes off or something like it was actually okay we were about s minutes 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:58.719 late and basically I was dropping the sponsor spots into 00:00:55.480 --> 00:01:01.760 place and this is really weird like this 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:04.600 is this is kind of cool because I got a 00:01:01.760 --> 00:01:12.280 firsthand look into the inner workings of the mind of Windows 10 um where xplit 00:01:09.240 --> 00:01:14.280 the like the program window was here 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:20.479 here you know what I'll just uh oh I don't think I have a scene where I can 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:25.079 screen share with you guys I will create one very quickly that's going to get 00:01:23.119 --> 00:01:28.640 okay so I could you got picture picture that's going to lag out super hard uh 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:36.320 that's a pretty good computer should be okay all right 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:39.560 task manage that that sh 177% CPU 00:01:36.320 --> 00:01:42.399 y'all yeah that's right 47 wow we put a 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:47.719 4770k in this and that was all on Paul and Kyle's behalf if I recall correctly 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:50.920 cuz we we were we were CRA we the stream was dropping frames because we had two 00:01:49.479 --> 00:01:55.960 guests or something along those lines I think anyway so the point is I could see 00:01:53.680 --> 00:02:00.640 my xsplit window it was kind of here I'm reenacting this for you guys and I could 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:03.479 see us moving around and things moving in the frame and I could actually right 00:02:02.039 --> 00:02:08.720 click on the desktop but and I can number lock was 00:02:06.479 --> 00:02:13.920 working but it was the most bizarre thing because I couldn't click anything 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:17.160 start menu wasn't coming up and even pressing the front button was not 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:22.200 resetting the computer but number lock was working I was like this computer's 00:02:19.160 --> 00:02:23.800 responding so I was like okay well hard 00:02:22.200 --> 00:02:28.640 shut down going to bork my Windows again went 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:34.680 just boot it up and the motherboard's all like oh you're CSM boot settings 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:38.560 it's stable you need to change these things to whatever if you want to do 00:02:36.440 --> 00:02:44.760 anything go to the secure boot settings I'm like oh not this again so I go and I 00:02:42.480 --> 00:02:49.480 go I set it to a bunch of things and then I set it to full auto and I reboot 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:53.440 it again and I kind of go now just hold on a minute here my voice isn't quite 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:58.200 back yet folks and I go into the actual boot 00:02:56.040 --> 00:03:03.480 devices and there's nothing in there no drive no Drive 00:03:00.640 --> 00:03:09.400 what do you mean no Drive where's my drive why not say there's no boot device 00:03:07.200 --> 00:03:15.519 found right that's what my laptop was doing I'm using a John's laptop actually 00:03:12.440 --> 00:03:17.280 my the SS the MS m SATA drive in my 00:03:15.519 --> 00:03:21.560 laptop died so I've swapped that anyways no big deal but it was just like oh new 00:03:19.480 --> 00:03:28.480 no boot device that's fine where was that eror assus so so anyway so mean it 00:03:26.640 --> 00:03:32.720 takes me like 12 minutes or whatever to diagnose this so I'm I go I go down I 00:03:31.200 --> 00:03:38.599 look at the computer it's plugged in so I kind of go well that's what happened 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:41.879 my SSD died while I was operating the 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:44.599 computer I don't ask for much from this 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:50.120 computer two hours a week it doesn't even go into sleep it it shuts down 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:53.280 everything but two hours a week and honestly it's only really supposed to be 00:03:52.000 --> 00:04:00.079 like an hour and a half a week and it's on a UPS so like it gets the best power 00:03:56.640 --> 00:04:02.760 in the building I ask for so little and 00:04:00.079 --> 00:04:07.879 it's just no no whatever lonus big old big old F you lonus because I hate you 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:15.200 and you know what I hate you too computer anyway new SATA cable boots up 00:04:12.040 --> 00:04:17.840 we're ready to go but we're late and on 00:04:15.200 --> 00:04:21.199 top of that I just wasted another five minutes explaining why we're late we 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:24.919 haven't even inted topics yet making us even later unless you've watched it on 00:04:23.960 --> 00:04:30.240 YouTube you don't know what we're going to talk about I want a refund can you get that for this show on 00:04:29.080 --> 00:04:36.759 time oh wow I want a refund what does that even mean 00:04:33.039 --> 00:04:40.280 I don't know I don't know but what I do 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:42.160 know is that PornHub released some stats 00:04:40.280 --> 00:04:46.840 from their site showing that their traffic compared to typical averages 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:50.960 lowered immediately after the Fallout 4 launch telling us something that I'm 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:55.919 pretty sure we all know uh Tim Cook declares the end of the PC ushers in the 00:04:54.000 --> 00:05:01.280 age of the iPad Pro also Broadwell e specifications have 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:07.479 leaked and Pokemon on gen one is coming to 3DS 00:05:04.400 --> 00:05:10.199 3DS intro tag 00:05:07.479 --> 00:05:15.199 yeah oh my God the intro worked the intro always works these days man wasn't 00:05:13.320 --> 00:05:20.919 it like two weeks ago that it didn't work this is so funny people are like 00:05:17.479 --> 00:05:23.199 15% of the traffic was Luke hey I mean 00:05:20.919 --> 00:05:23.199 that's 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:30.560 fair sponsor 00:05:31.840 --> 00:05:34.840 T 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:41.919 squash oh man I got to do something about that voice okay see this is the 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:47.160 trick this is the trick yeah if I make it blank now then it'll work next time I 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:51.000 just always forget we should have a script that just does that you know what 00:05:48.880 --> 00:05:55.199 we should have is we should have like a checklist for the end of the show 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:59.720 because I swear it has been a month since I've remembered to pull down the 00:05:56.800 --> 00:06:05.360 hey we're live tweet and Facebook post and then inevitably inevitably people 00:06:02.280 --> 00:06:09.080 are like hey how come you took down the 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:12.720 archive okay for one the video is called 00:06:09.080 --> 00:06:14.240 we're live it's not called The W show 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:19.319 okay the W show has been running for like two 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:24.080 years the wano has never been called 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:25.560 we're live not once and number two I 00:06:24.080 --> 00:06:30.880 understand your confusion and it's completely my bad this is my way of 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:35.520 apologizing he likes to Apologize by making you feel like it's your fault but 00:06:32.520 --> 00:06:37.599 then also admitting guilt in some way 00:06:35.520 --> 00:06:43.319 yes it's that way works best for everyone so let's get into 00:06:40.840 --> 00:06:48.440 it you know I'm at that stage where I'm like feeling pretty much better but 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:53.560 there's like a gigantic lugie somewhere between like my nose and my throat like 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:58.080 kind of in here somewhere and like it's annoying you can't really do anything 00:06:55.360 --> 00:07:02.879 about it I think I just swallowed it oh that's 00:07:00.479 --> 00:07:10.400 better or worse in other news about swallowing PornHub 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:13.160 oh you know that doesn't happen 00:07:10.400 --> 00:07:16.639 much it could it could but it does there's probably like a whole category 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:19.280 for that probably actually actually oh probably I'm probably just missing the 00:07:18.080 --> 00:07:25.599 right keyword um all right so this was posted 00:07:22.080 --> 00:07:27.199 originally on the Forum by uh Sam fiser 00:07:25.599 --> 00:07:31.479 and the original Source here is from Venture beat let's go ahead Sam fer wow 00:07:29.599 --> 00:07:37.280 screen share with you guys so pornh hub's traffic dipped significantly the 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:41.240 day that Fallout 4 came out confirming 00:07:37.280 --> 00:07:44.759 once and for all that 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:46.560 Gamers um who are on the internet 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:53.039 sometimes on their computers might occasionally partake in the uh in the uh 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:57.800 Hub of porn website I think that's what it's called right hub of porn I wouldn't 00:07:54.879 --> 00:08:03.520 know much about it myself great yeah yeah okay h porn website so so in the in 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:08.800 the time after the Fallout here I'm I'm going to go back to this graph so in the time after the Fallout release uh 00:08:06.159 --> 00:08:14.720 basically this is a traffic change among Gamers specifically so the actual dip is 00:08:13.280 --> 00:08:23.479 probably less significant because PornHub has actually used Google data in 00:08:18.159 --> 00:08:25.199 order to um segment their their overall 00:08:23.479 --> 00:08:29.159 traffic into just the traffic that's also interested in gaming well that 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:33.760 makes sense then which makes sense almost 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:36.080 too groomed I I wish it was overall 00:08:33.760 --> 00:08:41.080 traffic nothing can be too groomed oh wow yes okay I wish it was overall 00:08:38.880 --> 00:08:44.200 traffic not just gaming fans that would be a way more interesting statistic I 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:48.560 didn't realize that and that makes this way more boring yeah so so anyway so in 00:08:46.760 --> 00:08:52.440 so the the traffic change after the Fallout for release you can see it was 00:08:50.120 --> 00:09:00.399 down as much as 10% however after looks like I don't 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:02.959 know what three four five 15 or so hours 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:08.320 of continuous gaming it was time for PornHub and then time to go to bed well 00:09:05.079 --> 00:09:11.440 that looks like on the first night they 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:13.519 gamed a bit and then had a little no no 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:17.800 that's 4:00 a.m. then 400 p.m. so that's a 24hour period you're looking at it's a 00:09:15.920 --> 00:09:20.959 little more a little more it's the 30 hour or so period so the first night it 00:09:19.839 --> 00:09:26.200 comes out they play a little bit then they're like ah I got to go work in the morning have some fun time go to sleep 00:09:24.640 --> 00:09:29.920 work work work work work do whatever do whatever do do whatever play again the 00:09:27.800 --> 00:09:34.079 next day and then now everyone's had a little bit more Fallout time so they're 00:09:31.920 --> 00:09:36.959 more inclined to spend a little bit of time before going to bed doing other 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:40.399 things and then everyone's like okay whoop and then go back to bed okay so 00:09:39.040 --> 00:09:46.720 this is probably going to be the worst straw pull we've ever 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:51.320 done that's saying a lot 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:54.519 um so does a hot 00:09:51.320 --> 00:09:56.240 new game release you should just go full 00:09:54.519 --> 00:10:00.120 bore and make it faap on night one versus fap on night two versus fap on 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:06.480 night not going to do that that's just no does a hot new game 00:10:02.800 --> 00:10:09.000 release affect your all right 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:13.640 schedule so we're going to go with uh yes 00:10:10.880 --> 00:10:16.920 no and really those are the only options because there's there there's not 00:10:15.079 --> 00:10:19.959 there's not really a whole lot to it beyond that so I'm going to go ahead and 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:24.920 drop that in the twitch chat love to hear from you guys about this one I'm 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:31.000 going to go ahead and vote okay oh wow the results are pouring 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:36.120 in bouncing back and forth they are wow this is the people are the the two the 00:10:34.160 --> 00:10:42.519 two wow everything everything is jockeying for position this this is the 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:45.480 tightest pole that we have ever run some 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:50.959 might say warmest warmest no one would say that but possibly not most inviting 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:55.079 best groomed perhaps so we've got the majority of you 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:59.760 it looks like it's settling in a little bit we've got the majority of you saying 00:10:56.800 --> 00:11:06.440 no a hot new game release is not enough to get you off of your schedule with a 00:11:03.160 --> 00:11:09.120 third of you saying yes indeed it would 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:13.760 and 28% of you voting for turnup the way you know you should yep all right let's 00:11:11.880 --> 00:11:19.920 go ahead and move on to our next topic here I can't believe anyone even 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:22.600 sponsors this show it's uh sort of 00:11:19.920 --> 00:11:26.480 horrible I mean it's great but in just sort of a horrible way or it's horrible 00:11:24.079 --> 00:11:30.600 in a great way yeah I love this show all right so posted by Z mule on the Forum 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:36.480 the original article here is from the telegraph you're posting links today 00:11:32.160 --> 00:11:40.440 right awesome okay we got this Tim 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:42.240 C declares the end of the PC and hints 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:48.279 at new medical product okay so uh I don't know but wow 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:56.279 that's great this article on Telegraph has 1,600 comments it's amazing how 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:58.440 cyclical this whole argument ends up 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:02.600 being um so anyway I I'll give you guys some context for this this so here 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:08.680 here's the here's the quote if you're looking at a PC this is Tim Cook why 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:10.560 would you buy a PC anymore no really why 00:12:08.680 --> 00:12:17.000 would you buy one and then he continues um yes the 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:22.519 iPad Pro is a replacement for a notebook or a desktop for many many people they 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:27.480 will start using it and conclude they no longer need to use anything else oh 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:31.720 right we make phones other than their phones I added that that bit about oh we 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:37.480 make phones I guess we need to sell those too um the really weird thing here 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:42.639 is Apple also makes PCS pretty decent ones last time I 00:12:40.040 --> 00:12:49.160 checked and also last time I checked their PC market share was Rising not 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:54.279 lowering um I Rising falling not lowering I can't find the graph but 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:56.480 someone made a info graph based on the 00:12:54.279 --> 00:13:01.199 people claiming that the PC was dead over time and I forgot I should have had 00:12:58.959 --> 00:13:07.519 that in here for this segment but it's amazing CU it's been going on since like 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:10.720 a really long time ago like in like the 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:11.959 crazy the PC spaces exploding era people 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:17.639 have been saying it since then so why don't we take turns answering uh Mr 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:21.040 Cook's question here um if you're 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:23.399 looking at a PC why would you buy a PC 00:13:21.040 --> 00:13:27.839 anymore no really why would you buy one one answer one answer at a time one 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:31.920 answer at a time am I first yeah you know the first one's too easy well I 00:13:30.199 --> 00:13:36.800 think there's a lot that are too easy actually so go ahead gaming okay gaming 00:13:34.880 --> 00:13:41.760 you can game on an iPad Pro no it's the it's the job okay yeah 00:13:39.680 --> 00:13:45.519 no no I am going to we have to take turns I want to play games that can't be 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:49.600 played on iPad Pro uh well then you should probably Lobby that developer to 00:13:47.760 --> 00:13:53.240 develop for the iPad Pro the iPad Pro is extremely powerful because the game it's 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:56.839 not powerful enough though it's not powerful enough okay all right so you 00:13:55.320 --> 00:14:01.199 want a machine that can game and is powerful all right I got argument number 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:06.519 two maybe just 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:09.000 maybe I want a peripheral that is not 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:12.680 Bluetooth well you should probably and does not require an external like dongle 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:16.639 you should probably learn to use modern peripherals you're just behind the times 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:21.000 this is going to get confusing for viewers my modern peripherals are just 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:28.160 fine sir that is a stupid argument and mine is a good one you're next um I I 00:14:24.880 --> 00:14:30.480 need to uh have interesting input 00:14:28.160 --> 00:14:34.440 devices that I can't have on an iPad Pro that's basically mine rephrase try again 00:14:32.279 --> 00:14:38.320 no no no because of like capture cards and whatnot if I'm rendering video I 00:14:36.680 --> 00:14:42.360 said I wanted peripheral devices that are not Bluetooth were you not talking 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:46.040 about keyboard or Mouse no it just peripherals I could be a printer I it 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:51.480 could be a printer okay printers a peripheral okay 00:14:49.079 --> 00:14:56.920 um I don't know enough about the iPad Pro to be completely Fair basically it's 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:58.800 a big IAD and it's 00:14:56.920 --> 00:15:03.480 faster what could you need to do with a p see that you can't do with an iPad all 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:07.040 I really do with it is play games right oh well okay well fine I'll come up with 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:11.199 other things how about an external display okay what if I want to 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:13.959 peripheral actually multitask okay arguably that is a peripheral so I'm 00:15:12.680 --> 00:15:18.880 repeating my own argument you said peripheral which took away to out of the 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:23.199 argument damn maybe he's right maybe he's right what if I want to upgrade it 00:15:21.160 --> 00:15:28.639 what if I want to upgrade it but that was part of the not fast enough thing oh 00:15:25.920 --> 00:15:31.560 oh crap cuz we said it's not fast enough okay and we said we want to be able to 00:15:29.920 --> 00:15:35.880 plug more things in no we will come up with something and then games Falls in 00:15:34.319 --> 00:15:40.880 under the same category as Windows only applic I need access to my file system 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:45.519 you can't do that on iPad Pro no it's just iOS I don't use them I don't know 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:49.160 it's just a big iPad that's pathetic they have changed nothing it doesn't 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:55.680 even have Force touch I need massively expandable storage okay uh the cloud local no no 00:15:54.480 --> 00:16:00.680 the cloud the cloud is the answer to everything I need it to be privately secure in fact the cloud is the answer 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:05.680 to your game G too cloud gaming cloud storage 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:06.959 done I don't I don't accept that um I 00:16:05.680 --> 00:16:12.560 need to be able to play my games offline I need local secure I mean I think we've 00:16:08.920 --> 00:16:14.160 made our point I I mean to to I knew 00:16:12.560 --> 00:16:18.120 more about what people actually use iPads for i' I'd probably be able to 00:16:16.319 --> 00:16:22.399 have more arguments I think honestly that's a more interesting discussion at 00:16:20.040 --> 00:16:27.279 this point not what you can't do on an iPad because that's kind of an endless 00:16:24.319 --> 00:16:31.480 topic but what can you do on an iPad I don't use them I literally don't know 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:34.680 you can shop on Amazon you can check your email it's all the usual things I 00:16:32.959 --> 00:16:40.480 mean the main difference here okay and we can use this we can use this to 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:43.839 springboard into you know what the iPad 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:46.279 Pro is as much as anything else because 00:16:43.839 --> 00:16:50.800 and our my favorite iPad Pro review so far uh is this one over on over on RS 00:16:49.160 --> 00:16:55.880 Technica where I think the the the headline pretty much says it Mac like 00:16:53.279 --> 00:17:01.000 speed with all the virtues and restrictions of iOS because 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:05.720 it does bring some interesting new peripherals to the table there is 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:08.400 finally an apple sanctioned official 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:14.559 keyboard cover and the similarity to something like a Surface Pro type 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:19.600 cover is definitely a thing um and they 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:22.400 have the pencil which is a stylus but it 00:17:19.600 --> 00:17:27.000 is a apparently you just use an iPad for porn you can use a computer for porn 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:30.240 yeah so so it's one of those things where uh and we'll talk more about 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:34.880 steemo steo later but it's one of those things where I I don't especially with 00:17:32.760 --> 00:17:40.880 the way that it's priced which is kind of uh beating down the door of devices 00:17:37.280 --> 00:17:43.799 like a Surface Pro 4 and even Apple's 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:50.000 own MacBook lineup um at the kind of price that it's at I just don't really 00:17:46.320 --> 00:17:52.520 understand why I'm taking a a half ass 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:58.280 keyboard and no trackpad it does have the pencil so it 00:17:55.039 --> 00:18:02.240 does have a stylus but it lacks any 00:17:58.280 --> 00:18:03.919 Mouse e any mouse or trackpad input um I 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:09.559 don't understand why I'm giving that up for the sake of I can detach the 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:14.559 keyboard I guess and the screen is bigger I'm 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:18.280 trying to watch people talk about what they actually use them for so far I got 00:18:16.679 --> 00:18:25.600 keep all my school books in one place which like so it's a eBook or a laptop 00:18:21.760 --> 00:18:29.320 okay one of the two yeah um porn yeah 00:18:25.600 --> 00:18:32.400 your phone yeah um well screen's pretty 00:18:29.320 --> 00:18:35.840 small and that's like it 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:38.559 so I mean to me this is not so much a 00:18:35.840 --> 00:18:44.240 problem with the with with what Tim Cook is I think trying to say and that's that 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:46.880 the iPad Pro is like everything that 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:51.760 like uh where's that where's that other where's that other uh 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:57.600 shoot where's that other quote I think this was you can technically Video Edit 00:18:53.320 --> 00:19:00.400 on an iPad Pro yeah so so it's a it's 00:18:57.600 --> 00:19:05.360 not like no no everything he said is just kind of wrong he said okay yes the 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:10.360 iPad Pro is a replacement for a notebook or a desktop for many many people and if 00:19:08.520 --> 00:19:17.039 you use it within the right narrowed scope yeah so I think to say that for 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:18.240 many many people and apple is or no okay 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:23.720 I shouldn't say apple because I meant the fruit not the company but in the context of this discussion that could be 00:19:20.919 --> 00:19:29.960 very confusing to say for many many people a trackpad is a replacement for 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:33.039 the mouse would be true 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:36.600 because functionally you can kind of use 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:38.600 them for the same stuff but I and this 00:19:36.600 --> 00:19:45.000 I've said this before uh in my MacBook 2015 retina 00:19:42.080 --> 00:19:51.240 review I've got stuff to do I need a mouse because it's faster and actually 00:19:48.360 --> 00:19:56.320 objectively better if you've like got stuff to do if I'm just hanging around 00:19:53.520 --> 00:19:59.679 watching YouTube videos on my computer I don't need a mouse because I'm not in a 00:19:57.760 --> 00:20:03.520 hurry I've got all the time in the world and I think that's kind of what's being 00:20:01.679 --> 00:20:08.720 said here yes the iPad Pro is a replacement for notebook or desktop for 00:20:05.960 --> 00:20:15.480 many many people if those people don't really have anything to do or they're 00:20:11.520 --> 00:20:18.320 like they need something to to sketch on 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:22.919 but I I I like I don't oh I don't understand why they're using this 00:20:19.679 --> 00:20:24.679 instead of like a Windows-based wcom 00:20:22.919 --> 00:20:31.640 tablet which has already existed for a couple of years for people who legitimately want to use the fully 00:20:28.760 --> 00:20:38.480 featured Adobe Creative Suite on a portable device with a legitimately 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:41.240 excellent pen and digitizer experience 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:46.640 um with that said the overall feedback on Apple's pencil stylus seems to be 00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:50.520 pretty good so far from reviews but they're not out there in the wilderness 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:56.039 and this is really crazy the iPad Pro is out but the stylus is delayed again so 00:20:53.760 --> 00:20:59.760 you actually would just be buying a big iPad with a keyboard and and I mean I 00:20:58.600 --> 00:21:03.280 mean this this is another thing going back to the keyboard like I don't really 00:21:01.760 --> 00:21:09.159 personally think that an extra couple inches on the screen no CH dramatically 00:21:06.159 --> 00:21:10.720 changes the iOS experience enough 00:21:09.159 --> 00:21:17.640 combined with a keyboard that this is a gamechanging device I mean I personally 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:20.440 this is something I went usable I 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:25.559 personally went through the experience of back in the iPad 2 days uh Logitech 00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:31.679 and they actually have a new peripheral for the iPad Pro but Logitech had a 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:35.080 Bluetooth keyboard slard aluminum cover 00:21:31.679 --> 00:21:37.200 really nice accessory for the iPad 2o I 00:21:35.080 --> 00:21:41.200 personally bought hundreds of them when I worked at NC I like busted my butt I 00:21:39.880 --> 00:21:46.640 was like this thing is going to be a hot mover it takes everything that's great about the iPad and makes it so you can 00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:53.480 actually pipe on the damn thing that thing was a disaster it was so hard for 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:55.400 me to get rid of them and so what so 00:21:53.480 --> 00:22:00.200 people have changed their minds that much already I don't think so 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:09.559 um so lots of people talking about oh uh 00:22:05.559 --> 00:22:13.279 sure oh there's one extra word uh two 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:15.200 extra things so okay go for it um so 00:22:13.279 --> 00:22:20.159 lots of people in the chat are bringing up the horrible horrible horrible 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:23.760 horrible things that happened in Paris um yes wait oh are we done with the iPad 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:26.279 thing are we completely changing okay we don't technically have to but we've been 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:32.720 talking about it for quite a while yeah okay so yeah yeah we're done so basically in short uh don't expect an 00:22:30.600 --> 00:22:37.919 iPad Pro review from me because I don't really care it is not a PC it does not 00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:41.760 replace a PC it's a big iPad and that'll be good for some things like in a 00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:46.880 classroom where a bigger thing to read a story book to the kids on the iPad might 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:52.159 be nice that's what I think it's for okay go anyways um super important super 00:22:49.760 --> 00:22:56.760 terrible things happening in Paris uh yes we know um we're mainly not 00:22:55.039 --> 00:23:02.200 addressing it because we're probably not the right people addressing we're still 00:22:59.360 --> 00:23:06.159 a tech show yes I would it is super important and if you do want to be 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:10.159 informed I would very much recommend going and checking it out I know there's 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:13.600 at least two of the top things on the front page of Reddit are about Paris 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:17.039 right now those are probably good links to go get yourself informed I'm sure 00:23:15.760 --> 00:23:21.240 people in chat will probably be able to help you if you're looking for 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:26.640 information um and you'll be able to find it all over the Internet it's a 00:23:23.600 --> 00:23:28.880 huge thing right now um but yes we are 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:34.240 probably not the right people and I feel like if we spoke about it we wouldn't be 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:36.080 adding to the conversation for one and 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:40.600 might accidentally spread misinformation which would be the worst thing to do 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:42.679 right now so y maybe go Che in short 00:23:40.600 --> 00:23:47.760 there are attacks and Paris has closed their borders um and yeah that's very 00:23:45.840 --> 00:23:52.840 much a developing developing thing right now so yeah I think it's safe for us to 00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:57.880 say you know our hearts go out to the people of Paris I love Paris that's 00:23:54.919 --> 00:24:01.840 actually the the city that I chose that was my grad present is I could go 00:23:59.360 --> 00:24:07.039 anywhere in the world for I think it was like 10 days or something like that also 00:24:04.159 --> 00:24:10.520 I had to take my mother um and I went to Paris and it was freaking awesome and 00:24:08.679 --> 00:24:16.960 people should not attack Paris I think we can all agree on that yeah all right 00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:21.720 so moving back to Tech news uh Intel's 00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:23.880 Skylake Speed Shift technology has been 00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:27.000 deployed now this is stuff that was built into the CPU back when it was 00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:31.840 released and this was posted on the Forum by numlock 21 00:24:29.080 --> 00:24:39.840 the article here is from a nonch but basically what this amounts to is a more 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:42.679 advanced kind of a more granular version 00:24:39.840 --> 00:24:47.640 of the of the speedstep technology that already existed that allows the CPU to 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:53.039 dynamically adjust its power and speed settings as it's being used 00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:59.520 so uh so this is cool so in the 00:24:56.399 --> 00:25:02.320 past the operating system was fully in 00:24:59.520 --> 00:25:07.520 control of this process and the CPU itself was just capable of all these 00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:11.679 different Power States now with operating system support and this has 00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:17.679 been added to Windows 10 the OS can actually hand control of the frequency 00:25:13.760 --> 00:25:19.200 and voltage back to the processor so in 00:25:17.679 --> 00:25:25.320 short there's uh there's an Intel provided graft here that graft excuse me 00:25:22.919 --> 00:25:30.520 graph here that shows with speed shift enabled how quickly it can cycle up to 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:35.000 different Power States so you can see the I believe this is frequency yep so 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:41.399 this is frequency versus time in milliseconds we are talking getting from 00:25:38.320 --> 00:25:45.080 uh a a low lower power state to the 00:25:41.399 --> 00:25:48.039 highest one in a matter of what is this 00:25:45.080 --> 00:25:54.520 like 15 milliseconds or something along those lines versus about 00:25:51.120 --> 00:25:56.480 120 milliseconds without Speed Shift 00:25:54.520 --> 00:26:00.399 enabled so this is going to be particularly important for things like 00:25:58.320 --> 00:26:04.080 mobile processors where the difference between your base clock and your very 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:08.480 low power steps when you've got speed Step At Its very very low states to say 00:26:06.520 --> 00:26:12.320 battery so this is going to make a big difference to the responsiveness of 00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:16.080 tasks when that mobile processor that has a huge disparity between its base 00:26:14.080 --> 00:26:21.559 and its boost clock is able to quickly go okay you're doing something boom I'm 00:26:17.679 --> 00:26:23.000 done and oh now I'm way back down so you 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:29.480 know say for example when you're navigating to a web page that puts a 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:32.360 very short very sudden very very 00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:36.200 shortterm load on the processor and now that will be able to take better 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:40.480 advantage of the actual power that you've got under the hood of your device 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:44.880 than was possible in uh the past which can give you responsiveness in little 00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:49.679 tight timings which can actually make your computer feel a lot faster than it 00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:55.679 actually the the change actually is yeah responsiveness is more important than 00:26:53.120 --> 00:26:59.440 you know how quickly can you render out you know a video that is going to take 00:26:57.679 --> 00:27:04.399 either you half hour 35 minutes or whatever which is awesome but like that 00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:07.559 5 minutes will feel like a much shorter period of time than when cuz you'll 00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:10.200 probably go do something yeah um compared to if you're sitting there 00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:13.919 literally staring at the screen waiting for something to load so this is cool 00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:17.960 this tells us a little bit about it so an ontech ran PC Mark 8 because somehow 00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:23.720 they managed to get that Bloody program to run I swear like and you know what we 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:28.520 must just be snake bitten because I I love futur Mark those guys are nice and 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:33.279 I love most of the software that they make but PC Mark man every single time 00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:40.200 people people often ask me why don't you run PC mark on like your laptop reviews 00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:41.840 and stuff maybe 10 to 20% maybe 30% of 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:46.200 the time that I've just sat down and gone okay I'm going to run PC mark it 00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:50.279 has worked for a while I was actually using the battery life test in my 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:55.640 notebook videos so I I used it in I think two and then I went to use it for 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:58.880 the uh the Dell rugged uh laptop and it 00:27:55.640 --> 00:28:00.480 just three times just failed like would 00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:03.640 stop working it would just the the computer would go to sleep when the 00:28:01.919 --> 00:28:07.559 device still had 40% battery I'm just like this is not useful every time we 00:28:05.600 --> 00:28:12.360 get to Scrapyard Wars we get to deciding on one of those style of tests I'm just 00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:14.320 like H oh dear we went through what 00:28:12.360 --> 00:28:17.480 three different versions of PC Mark to find one that would work to find one 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:22.640 that we managed to run and even then I think we oh I'm this is spoilers okay 00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:26.919 stay tuned for more scrapyard War how is it still coming out it's still coming 00:28:24.840 --> 00:28:31.120 out I'm on the fan side on this one it's way too long you know what but it was 00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:36.360 one of those things where it ended up being a result of us taking the whole 00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:42.960 thing and going okay what's good here because a lot of the time stuff that was 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:46.360 good enough to make it into this version ended up on The Cutting Room floor 00:28:44.600 --> 00:28:50.360 because of just time constraints last time so I think the ha Hazard approach 00:28:49.120 --> 00:28:53.919 almost worked better last time the problem was because it was too light and 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:58.640 then last time had its own whole set of problems I know so like we decided on 00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:01.320 this before we so we'll reeval and we'll take another crack at it and 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:06.480 that's pretty much all there is to it all right um so anyway there's some more benchmarks for Speed Shift that show 00:29:04.760 --> 00:29:12.320 that in some cases it does make a very significant difference uh in other cases 00:29:08.919 --> 00:29:15.000 it's much smaller um but yeah there you 00:29:12.320 --> 00:29:18.399 go battery efficiency ever so slightly improved I love those in on Tech guys 00:29:16.600 --> 00:29:22.720 they do such a good job this is all good stuff y it's not it's not a m it's I 00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:28.320 doubt it's going to be a major gamechanging thing but like it's cool uh 00:29:26.080 --> 00:29:34.559 what's interesting is that the OS can relinquish not necessarily all but just 00:29:31.360 --> 00:29:36.080 some of the power State um some of the 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:39.679 power States so it could control it within this range or that range or the 00:29:37.679 --> 00:29:43.679 whole thing that's cool very cool stuff yeah do you know if you're going to have 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:49.240 to enable this or is it automatically running that I actually on the side I'm 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:54.480 assuming on the CPU side it's probably enabled by default I suspect it works on 00:29:52.360 --> 00:29:59.120 its own I cannot tell you the only thing that made me think of that is because 00:29:55.519 --> 00:30:01.960 you said it it can do this or that mhm 00:29:59.120 --> 00:30:10.279 all right so this is interesting I mean this is something where it doesn't look 00:30:04.679 --> 00:30:13.880 like anyone can get any comment from um 00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:15.519 here we go uh from the director of 00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:21.279 whatever Ki yeah think it's unlikely that they 00:30:19.120 --> 00:30:26.039 could have got did we intro the topic at all no no 00:30:24.159 --> 00:30:29.640 we didn't so basically word on the street is that the FBI paid carneg melon 00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:36.200 $1 million at least this is all very he 00:30:32.760 --> 00:30:37.519 said she said to break tour so the 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:42.320 original article that we have here this was posted by dat speed on the Forum the 00:30:39.840 --> 00:30:48.640 original article oh and uh there's the full spe full size ad is from Forbes 00:30:45.679 --> 00:30:55.480 here and so the tour project is the one claiming this um and the the objective 00:30:52.799 --> 00:31:00.120 they are saying was that was for the FBI to uncloak particular users and find 00:30:58.639 --> 00:31:05.440 their true ipss so this is the team responsible for 00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:09.760 maintaining the tour anonymizing Network and they're claiming that they paid 1 00:31:07.919 --> 00:31:14.000 million to disclose techniques that they discovered that could help uncover the 00:31:11.080 --> 00:31:19.519 identities of users neither the FBI nor Carnegie melon have directly confirmed 00:31:16.120 --> 00:31:20.919 nor denied anything there was a talk uh 00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:25.760 that was supposed to be at black hat 2014 that was cancelled um from two 00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:29.720 researchers their names are in here somewhere that were from Carnegie melon 00:31:27.639 --> 00:31:33.840 uh that talk was cancelled and was directly pertaining to these kind of 00:31:31.360 --> 00:31:38.440 things and people are wondering if that talk was kind of bought out by the FBI 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:45.039 so it wasn't released and then the things that they were talking about in there were released and that talk was 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:47.799 about um being able to un un un 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:52.440 anonymize these people and find the hidden Services which is exactly what 00:31:50.080 --> 00:31:59.120 was done so they do actually seem pretty well related yep um so I guess that's 00:31:56.760 --> 00:32:05.080 pretty much all there is to really yeah to really say about it Ed Ed I don't 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:10.320 know how to say your last name Ed Des Ed 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:12.880 desautel desel can I help 00:32:10.320 --> 00:32:18.200 yous how you say that name desotel yeah it looks like a French 00:32:15.760 --> 00:32:21.200 name spokesman for Carnegie melon software engineering Institute did not 00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:25.000 deny the accusations directly but told wired I would like to see the 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:30.039 substantiation for their claim adding I am not aware of any payment which is 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:33.519 like B basically like saying I can't say 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:35.799 anything yeah yeah um the site 00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:40.440 motherboard reviewed the court filings reviewed court filings that proved the 00:32:37.639 --> 00:32:44.480 FBI recruited a research institute that was running systems on tour networks to 00:32:42.080 --> 00:32:48.960 uncover the identity of a user of Silk Road 2 uh so that's the drug Marketplace 00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:53.960 that replaced the first version of the Silk Road and um yeah I guess that's 00:32:52.159 --> 00:33:00.000 pretty much all there is to say about that so nowhere is 00:32:56.679 --> 00:33:02.519 safe yeah y yay although that's why you 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:08.279 should run a local Cloud unlike that thing that you can do on an iPad which 00:33:04.399 --> 00:33:10.519 is using other clouds oh wow boy um I 00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:13.639 guess I I kind of we actually had a separate you know what it's probably 00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:17.600 worth going through we had a separate topic for the iPad Pro uh I did Cover a 00:33:16.360 --> 00:33:23.279 lot of this though when I was kind of ranting about it before but there are some good things about it iPad Pro again 00:33:21.639 --> 00:33:27.840 bro yeah so this supposed to buy Dad speed well it's kind of a big deal 00:33:25.320 --> 00:33:31.080 because it replaces desktops and laptops [ __ ] that means like our jobs yeah I 00:33:29.760 --> 00:33:36.760 know right we'll just have to make videos about the iPad Pro all day dude I 00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:36.760 can put the iPad Pro in a 00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:46.840 bomb okay that will make more sense if 00:33:43.159 --> 00:33:50.120 you've watched his Fallout 4 build 00:33:46.840 --> 00:33:53.080 block yeah um anyway so there is some 00:33:50.120 --> 00:33:58.480 cool stuff so the a9x processor uh the same one that was found in the iPhone 6s 00:33:56.360 --> 00:34:02.279 has now been over clocked just another way of saying the 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:09.240 clock speed has been increased so it's now even faster and actually quite 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:11.679 competitive with um Intel's real 00:34:09.240 --> 00:34:15.879 processors like we're not talking corm it's legitimately looking pretty 00:34:13.240 --> 00:34:21.000 competitive with you know a low-end core I3 Core i5 dual core pretty darn 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:25.599 interesting stuff and this is based on some browser based benchmarks as well as 00:34:22.879 --> 00:34:30.280 geekbench it also shows little sign of throttling in the geekbench thermal test 00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:34.240 pretty darn impressive and with the larger battery thanks to the larger 00:34:31.879 --> 00:34:40.079 housing it's able to achieve pretty darn similar battery life to previous iPads 00:34:36.879 --> 00:34:43.399 again a very good result the onboard 00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:46.000 Graphics are looking very very 00:34:43.399 --> 00:34:52.560 favorable uh beating every previous I device and every Intel GPU up to and 00:34:48.520 --> 00:34:55.440 including the iris Pro 5200 and Intel HD 00:34:52.560 --> 00:34:59.359 520 it does not feature 3D touch something that I'm personally pretty 00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:06.280 disappointed brutal 3D touch is actually awesome yeah Apple's done a pretty good 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:07.960 job in the past of uh of of maintaining 00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:11.119 their new features sort of across the product line as they refresh them um and 00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:15.920 I would have really expected that and this is especially disappointing given 00:35:13.200 --> 00:35:20.119 that this is a device that it's so funny because apple is always running around 00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:25.920 saying well h no touch screens for our MacBooks because that's 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:29.040 awkward so this is a device where we 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:31.240 were expected to type and touch it yeah 00:35:29.040 --> 00:35:35.680 um and they're actually taking away input options from the touch from the 00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:40.800 touch input uh multitasking is still quite limited um because it's running 00:35:38.040 --> 00:35:46.160 iOS it takes around 4 and a half hours to completely recharge with the included 00:35:42.839 --> 00:35:48.000 charge wear if not in use um thanks to 00:35:46.160 --> 00:35:54.800 its high capacity battery and it starts at $800 uh the keyboard is 00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:58.119 $169 for a keyboard accessory and the 00:35:54.800 --> 00:36:00.319 stylus is $100 so you've spent spent 00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:06.800 over $11,000 by the time you get even a base 32 gig Wi-Fi model basically I 00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:10.520 wouldn't recommend buying it um I've had some pretty I've given some pretty 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:14.760 positive reviews to Apple devices in the last little while um including the 00:36:12.560 --> 00:36:17.920 iPhone 6s but this one they're doing really great on the phone side 00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:22.440 especially with and like part of the reason why they're doing so great is 00:36:19.319 --> 00:36:24.319 that Android is just doing terribly 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:29.880 terms of like security stuff yeah security stuff uh OS updates um customer 00:36:28.200 --> 00:36:34.160 support there's a lot of things wrong with Android right now um I'm super 00:36:32.240 --> 00:36:37.240 pleased with my new phone those of you who aren't following on vessel won't 00:36:35.359 --> 00:36:42.480 know this yet but I have officially switched to the xeria Z5 compact I have 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:47.400 done away with the Droid Turbo it has officially happened after 11 months like 00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:51.040 you're actually gonna switch that's done wow I'm done I'm done with the Droid 00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:54.440 Turbo I think Taran wants to buy it so that would be a good upgrade for Taran 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:58.119 yeah yeah he needs uh he needs a phone with a camera that works so the Droid 00:36:56.240 --> 00:37:04.119 Turbo is definitely that all right let's move on to some Intel news the Broadwell 00:37:01.319 --> 00:37:09.000 e upcoming Broadwell e specifications have been leaked this was posted by Mr 00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:16.040 troll on the Forum whose name is appropriate given that it's a news item 00:37:12.240 --> 00:37:19.800 on LT Forum linking to wccf 00:37:16.040 --> 00:37:23.400 Tech so there's actually if this is true 00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:25.680 and what I will give wccf Tech and many 00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:31.720 of the other rumor mail sites out there what I will give them is that that 00:37:28.359 --> 00:37:35.200 typically Intel CPU rumors tend to be 00:37:31.720 --> 00:37:37.720 pretty good um Intel is a very very 00:37:35.200 --> 00:37:42.200 structured company and generally speaking their road maps 00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:49.160 like back when I was working at a retailer the their road maps are pretty 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:50.880 far out and like if if if they are if 00:37:49.160 --> 00:37:55.599 they're going to be arriving I think what was it q1 00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:58.599 2016 uh blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah later 00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:05.119 in 2016 later in 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:07.880 2016 so the uh the Broadwell EP zons are 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:12.839 rumored for q1 2016 with the consumer grade ones coming I think it was later 00:38:09.640 --> 00:38:14.880 in 2016 so it would not be unlike Intel 00:38:12.839 --> 00:38:18.400 to have a a year out road map that they're showing potential Partners under 00:38:16.640 --> 00:38:23.920 NDA but of course how long does it take for wccf Tech to get their hands on that 00:38:20.640 --> 00:38:26.680 so in a nutshell we are looking at once 00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:31.400 again man it seems like it took forever for them to get past giving us six cores 00:38:28.839 --> 00:38:36.640 on that platform but we are getting another two cores for the top end 00:38:34.160 --> 00:38:41.040 extreme Edition Cool freaking stuff one of the coolest Parts though is that you 00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:44.359 can get an8 core non-extreme Edition yes 00:38:41.040 --> 00:38:47.040 so the topend th000 processor is rumored 00:38:44.359 --> 00:38:54.359 to be rocking 10 cores and 20 threads at 3 GHz so uh we're looking at a basically 00:38:52.680 --> 00:38:59.599 equivalent single-threaded performance in all likelihood with essentially in 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:04.560 heavily multi-threaded workloads that's 3 GHz uh non- turboed yeah non-t turboed 00:39:03.319 --> 00:39:09.200 and we don't know the turbo and we don't know turbo clocks um so effectively 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:12.800 whatever sort of 25% performance Improvement in heavily threaded 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:16.880 workloads not bad from generation to generation heck of a lot better than the 00:39:14.560 --> 00:39:22.560 Consumer stuff yep yay we're getting treated like enthusiasts again um and 00:39:19.560 --> 00:39:24.640 then this is even more interesting sort 00:39:22.560 --> 00:39:28.680 of except that we don't know pricing yet and that is that so the 6950x is the 00:39:27.359 --> 00:39:34.359 exem Edition the 6900k is apparently going to have eight 00:39:31.720 --> 00:39:37.760 cores and 16 threads yeah so you won't have to buy an extreme Edition to get 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:41.079 the8 core experience which is awesome but again yeah we don't know the price 00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:45.480 tag but the price probably pretty easy to guess well I would have said that 00:39:43.560 --> 00:39:50.880 except that this time around Intel is going to have four 00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:53.240 SKS in the Enthusiast stack so for the 00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:59.319 last couple of generations like three generations 00:39:55.000 --> 00:40:02.480 3960x and then it was 3930 k 382k then 00:39:59.319 --> 00:40:06.400 we had the 4960x 4930k 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:10.040 492k and in both of those 00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:12.560 cases I believe they were all it was six 00:40:10.040 --> 00:40:15.760 core four core four core no six core six core four core I think something along 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:21.520 those lines anyway so this time we get 10 core okay so right so 5960x is eight 00:40:19.640 --> 00:40:25.400 core and then both of the lower ones are six core right there was no cheap quad 00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:29.480 core previously that's right they were they were six cores or uh or sorry 00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:35.040 there's the cheap one is not a quad core this time uh six core six core so this 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:37.760 time you get a 10 core or an eight core 00:40:35.040 --> 00:40:42.079 and then there is no quad core very nice so you get definitely something for your 00:40:39.839 --> 00:40:46.720 money investing in an x99 motherboard and quad core memory uh quad core quad 00:40:45.040 --> 00:40:51.480 Channel memory so this time you definitely get at least two more cores 00:40:48.240 --> 00:40:56.760 for your money and you could get up to 00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:58.440 also six or eight or 10 but we don't 00:40:56.760 --> 00:41:05.359 know what the pricing is going to look like and I wouldn't be that surprised to 00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:07.240 see Intel pull another q6600 on us here 00:41:05.359 --> 00:41:13.000 so back when they launched their first Quad Core Extreme Edition the qx6700 00:41:10.520 --> 00:41:19.760 what happened was they initially launched the q6600 which was their first 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:21.400 non-extreme quad core at like $750 or 00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:27.400 something like that like it was quite expensive so I wouldn't be surprised to 00:41:23.520 --> 00:41:30.359 see that and then another lower end six 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:34.760 core with kind of the other six core sitting in between that massive price 00:41:32.319 --> 00:41:41.079 Gap that now exists between the 582k and the 5930k and the other thing 00:41:38.720 --> 00:41:46.480 we don't know yet here is how PCI Express Lanes are going to be handled so 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:50.440 right now while we do get a six a six or an eight core regardless of how much we 00:41:48.160 --> 00:41:55.640 spend that bottom tier six core instead of having two F course has 12 fewer PCI 00:41:53.440 --> 00:42:01.640 E lanes for Worse expansion if you want to add a bunch of a bunch of cards to it 00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:03.480 so what I'm guessing is we're going to 00:42:01.640 --> 00:42:10.040 see that low-end 6800k be six cores and few PCI Lanes I 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:14.359 think we're going to get a six core with all the PCIe lanes in between like that 00:42:12.560 --> 00:42:17.200 new one that didn't exist before that new price point then we're going to have 00:42:15.839 --> 00:42:21.760 eight cores with all Lanes then we're going to have 10 cores with all Lanes um 00:42:20.359 --> 00:42:27.599 so that's that's kind of what it looks like to 00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:31.000 me I'm really super stoked on Broadwell 00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:32.960 EP though as some of you probably know I 00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:38.920 have been getting I've been getting more and more into xon stuff and like 00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:42.680 enjoying all the cores and you know whether it's using them for our video 00:42:40.640 --> 00:42:47.640 editing workflow or whether it's using them for running virtual machines where 00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:51.400 we took two two Gamers running on one motherboard which is pretty freaking 00:42:49.359 --> 00:42:55.240 cool um so this is this is looking interesting and this uh the official 00:42:53.680 --> 00:43:03.920 launch is apparently targeted for q1 2016 so this is E5 600 V4 up to 22 cores 00:43:00.520 --> 00:43:08.960 and 44 threads with up to 55 megabytes 00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:11.079 of cash per chip holy actual freaking 00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:17.240 balls not to mention that memory speed goes up from 2133 to 00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:22.160 2400 so we're talking a dual socket machine with up to 44 cores I mean I 00:43:20.680 --> 00:43:29.800 thought it was bananas when we did our 36 core machine I wonder what excuse I 00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:32.599 could find to tell Intel that I need 222 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:37.760 course I'm going to have to come up with something wait don't you already have 00:43:34.520 --> 00:43:40.920 this no I've got 218 course what about 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:42.599 that oh no those are okay so I do have 00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:45.400 okay so I've been teasing this for a bit okay we're changing topics a little bit 00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:51.200 here so without revealing too much I'm going 00:43:49.160 --> 00:43:55.760 to be building a very interesting machine um it will contain keep going 00:43:54.520 --> 00:44:03.079 I'm just trying to think of how you can get these processes seven R9 Fury 00:43:58.200 --> 00:44:06.960 Nanos it will contain two 14 core xeons 00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:08.640 it will contain 256 gigabytes of memory 00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:14.480 and it's all going to be on an ASUS workstation motherboard uh the rest of 00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:16.240 the specs are sort of TBD right now um 00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:19.559 because if I I think if I said anything about the rest of what I'm putting in it 00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:24.559 might reveal too much about the project but expect that project to show up 00:44:21.680 --> 00:44:28.680 probably sometime around the end of this year because let me tell you it takes a 00:44:26.520 --> 00:44:32.119 little while to get all of that Hardware coordinated and it's going to take a 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:37.079 fair bit of testing and configuration for me to get this whole 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interesting so no 00:51:39.520 --> 00:51:45.040 I'm just say this just it smells like so 00:51:42.720 --> 00:51:52.000 the Welsh Town Crick Howell which is a great name for a town by the way moves 00:51:47.799 --> 00:51:55.440 offshore to avoid tax on local business 00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:57.960 what okay so this is led by some Traders 00:51:55.440 --> 00:52:05.319 including the town salmon smokery local coffee shop Bookshop optician and bakery 00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:08.559 what and this tax Rebellion could spread 00:52:05.319 --> 00:52:12.280 Nationwide now it it it's important to 00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:15.559 be very clear what they are doing they 00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:19.040 are not trying to evade taxes for the 00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:20.799 sake of evading taxes they uh so blah 00:52:19.040 --> 00:52:25.200 blah blah blah blah blah blah up until now blah blah blah blah etc etc etc okay 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:31.520 I can't find the quote that that I was reading uh but but basically that is not 00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:37.359 the point the these are these are these are people who presumably at least some 00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:42.160 of them okay proudly pay their taxes to support their country and the public 00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:44.400 services that they use I pay a lot of 00:52:42.160 --> 00:52:48.160 taxes personally and through the business I pay lots and lots of taxes 00:52:46.520 --> 00:52:52.440 because I've been working since I was legal aged to work with absolutely zero 00:52:50.359 --> 00:52:56.760 interruptions having always paid my taxes and I am proud of that I am proud 00:52:55.079 --> 00:53:01.000 to support the social programs that we have here in Canada that take that tax 00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:05.559 money that I pay and build a road that not only I can drive on but everyone can 00:53:02.720 --> 00:53:10.760 drive on that is the way the system is supposed to work is the system broken 00:53:08.160 --> 00:53:14.119 yes the system is broken there are many many significant issues in Canada and in 00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:17.400 many other countries pretty much everywhere there are many significant 00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:22.440 issues that exist with the way that taxpayer money gets spent oh yeah but 00:53:20.160 --> 00:53:26.720 it's a heck of a lot better than Anarchy and so I continue to support it happily 00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:30.760 and I do not go out of my way to evade any taxes and I'm proud of that so 00:53:29.359 --> 00:53:35.839 that's not what these guys are doing either their point and this is this is 00:53:33.720 --> 00:53:43.480 great one of the town's Traders discovered that he paid seven times more 00:53:39.640 --> 00:53:46.880 in corporation tax last year than 00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:50.880 Facebook which paid 00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:55.400 5,000 in corporation tax that is their 00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:59.319 point their point is if this loophole is 00:53:55.400 --> 00:54:02.839 here then fine we're going to use it and 00:53:59.319 --> 00:54:03.960 you got two options option number one is 00:54:02.839 --> 00:54:11.760 okay well we're going to play by those rules and we don't pay taxes anymore we pay very very small offshore company 00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:14.440 taxes or option number two is tax those 00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:19.760 guys they should be paying tax too um they super should and it's super 00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:27.240 annoying this loophole uh allowed the likes of Amazon to pay 11.9 million on 00:54:24.240 --> 00:54:29.880 5.3 billion of UK sales yeah 00:54:27.240 --> 00:54:34.720 amazon.co.uk is sort of a big site I think that's worded oddly I think 00:54:31.680 --> 00:54:38.599 they're paying taxes on 11.9 million of 00:54:34.720 --> 00:54:41.720 5.3 billion of sales what no taxes of 00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:42.960 11.9 million on 5.3 billion of sales 00:54:41.720 --> 00:54:48.160 okay yeah yeah that's right don't don't don't worry it's all good um I don't 00:54:46.720 --> 00:54:51.640 know what I don't know what ghost is doing neither he's drunk okay that's why 00:54:50.359 --> 00:54:57.520 I was assuming there was something wrong anyway the point is um what Joe carthu 00:54:55.160 --> 00:55:02.319 who runs the local smoker said is that until now complicated offshore tricks 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:07.720 have only been open to big companies who can afford the lawyers fees now we've 00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:12.440 worked out a way to mimic them and they're basically uh this is going to be 00:55:10.160 --> 00:55:17.799 a part of a documentary in 2016 as part of BBC Britain's black economy season 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:22.160 and they're basically going okay here's how to do it so we're starting tax 00:55:20.240 --> 00:55:26.480 Rebellion if you want to collect any taxes from businesses maybe it's time to 00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:33.160 start collecting taxes from everyone in a fair and Equitable manner I love it 00:55:29.680 --> 00:55:36.240 this article made me so happy because it 00:55:33.160 --> 00:55:38.640 makes absolutely no sense that these 00:55:36.240 --> 00:55:43.280 companies are going to are going to you know threaten threaten the government 00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:47.319 and go oh well we'll just we'll just like stop paying our lobbying dollars 00:55:45.359 --> 00:55:52.280 and we'll just we'll move our operations out if you make us paid 00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:59.400 taxes I realistically I don't see that happening but it takes it takes multiple 00:55:56.920 --> 00:56:04.440 governments forming a united front against this behavior in order to make 00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:06.520 it work and so I I do sincerely worry 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:12.559 that it might not be possible I don't know I don't know because it's I mean 00:56:09.359 --> 00:56:15.200 yeah if you're if you're apple is it 00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:19.680 cheaper for you to pay tax properly on all your income or is it cheaper for you 00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:26.400 to offer the entirety of your Silicon Valley campuses a massive relocation 00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:28.599 bonus to move to Canada or move to 00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:34.480 somewhere else yeah I I don't know like I don't know I don't know how far this 00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:35.720 would escalate before it ended and I 00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:43.960 don't know what the landscape would look like when it was over um oh this is this is actually I 00:56:41.319 --> 00:56:47.319 have to confess I had not heard of this so this was posted on the Forum by oh no 00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:53.559 I don't have a forum post this is just an ours technical link so beware of ads 00:56:51.039 --> 00:57:00.440 that use inaudible sound to link your phone TV tablet and PC so privacy 00:56:57.319 --> 00:57:02.119 Advocates warn the feds about cous cross 00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:06.640 device tracking this is some crappy stuff going 00:57:04.839 --> 00:57:12.720 on right here yeah and I hadn't heard of this before if if you're running 00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:14.480 software on a smart device so basically 00:57:12.720 --> 00:57:18.000 as far as I can tell that's anything that can have an app installed on it 00:57:16.200 --> 00:57:22.720 that can have silver push software running at the same time yeah um that 00:57:20.359 --> 00:57:28.520 would be able to listen so a microphone of some sort so probably your phone or a 00:57:25.200 --> 00:57:30.640 tablet but probably your phone um then 00:57:28.520 --> 00:57:34.160 that silver push software can be the audio Beacon and different devices in 00:57:32.799 --> 00:57:39.000 your house so your computer if you have speakers on it your TV most likely in 00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:42.720 the middle of a commercial can yes uh would be playing extremely high-pitched 00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:46.119 noises I'd be interested to see if that's a frequency that dogs can hear 00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:49.520 see if the dogs freak out when they hear if your dog would be like you're being 00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:54.760 SPID up you like yeah yeah exactly your dog's like no dog meat will save you um 00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:59.440 anyways Fallout 4 reference um it's going to play this crazy sound that you 00:57:56.559 --> 00:58:03.640 can't hear but that your smart device that has silver push software on could 00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:07.720 kind of pick it up so that they can track if people are seeing these things 00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:13.720 yeah so this will tell advertisers oh man this will tell data 00:58:09.839 --> 00:58:16.240 miners so much more about you personally 00:58:13.720 --> 00:58:19.799 than was possible before because I mean we talked about this let's talk about 00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:24.119 the iPad Pro again there's certain things that make sense to do on a tablet 00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:30.000 and there's certain things that don't make sense to do on a tablet so for 00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:33.880 example if an Advertiser uh let's say let's say oh I don't know let's say 00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:37.680 Google okay let's say you don't use Chrome on your desktop but you use 00:58:35.319 --> 00:58:45.000 Chrome on your iPad so if all that Google knows about you is that you uh 00:58:40.799 --> 00:58:46.760 read game reviews and you go to Pornhub 00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:51.680 then they'll go okay gamer porn Enthusiast and they might you know try 00:58:49.200 --> 00:58:55.240 to figure out based on some you know uh emails you send here and there how old 00:58:53.520 --> 00:58:58.520 you are and what your gender is and all that kind of stuff so they've created a 00:58:56.559 --> 00:59:03.400 profile for you but what they might not know about you is that you watch um you 00:59:01.520 --> 00:59:07.640 show you watch yeah and that you love watching Madmen on TV and that you're 00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:13.039 and whether or not you mute the ads that's right whether so so there's all 00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:17.160 these things that they that they can't know about you unless they know all 00:59:15.319 --> 00:59:21.280 about your devices and the example given in the ARs Technica article which was 00:59:18.680 --> 00:59:28.240 excellent was maybe you would research STDs on your computer and then search 00:59:24.160 --> 00:59:30.119 for a um you know an you know a a sexual 00:59:28.240 --> 00:59:33.440 health clinic on your phone and then you would travel there and come back and 00:59:31.520 --> 00:59:39.559 then like now all of a sudden it could go okay you had an STD you went and got 00:59:36.799 --> 00:59:42.119 treated and now you're back home and maybe you're better now or maybe you're 00:59:40.799 --> 00:59:46.799 not and it can continue to track your search is like being able to track you 00:59:43.799 --> 00:59:49.640 across devices raises some serious 00:59:46.799 --> 00:59:54.240 privacy concerns um especially because tracking you across devices tells them 00:59:52.599 --> 01:00:00.559 exactly who you are there's pretty much no way to anonymous submit data like I 00:59:57.839 --> 01:00:03.720 went here I went there I live here um it's not it's not Anonymous anymore and 01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:08.559 this is the scariest thing about it silver pushes software is used by 67 01:00:06.319 --> 01:00:13.640 apps and which we don't know what those apps are but totals 18 million 01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:17.960 smartphones and they've basically what they've basically said is it is against 01:00:15.359 --> 01:00:20.440 our policy to disclose what apps are using our 01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:28.400 technology what so rip so any app that asks for your microphone and speaker 01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:34.640 permissions potentially I don't know any have 67 01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:37.079 apps super brutal actually yeah all 01:00:34.640 --> 01:00:41.599 right original poster here is tangra and the original article is from ARS 01:00:38.720 --> 01:00:45.480 Technica once again I love ARS Technica so this is so funny this is so funny I 01:00:43.680 --> 01:00:52.359 called this on W show last week I was like it will take no time flat for the 01:00:48.799 --> 01:00:55.160 Linux Army to attack my steam machine 01:00:52.359 --> 01:00:59.039 review and tell me about how I'm missing the point because you can enable desktop 01:00:56.960 --> 01:01:04.000 mode and the blah blah blah Linux Master race Etc um so it took like a matter of 01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:10.559 minutes and I actually tweeted about it when it happened but someone said something along the lines of oh crap 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:15.000 anyway one of their points was that Linux game performance and Steam OS game 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:20.359 performance is actually very similar to Windows when I used the word significant 01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:24.839 performance tax or significant performance penalty or something along 01:01:21.720 --> 01:01:26.520 those lines um a that wasn't my point in 01:01:24.839 --> 01:01:33.359 the video at all because what I was really talking about was the Steam 01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:38.200 Machines uh how successful the steam machine was at targeting the demographic 01:01:36.359 --> 01:01:42.720 that valve seems to be targeting with it so it was completely I didn't even run 01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:46.240 any performance numbers and you're wrong about the other thing because whether 01:01:44.640 --> 01:01:49.599 it's Linux we're talking about or whether it is driver issues the 01:01:48.359 --> 01:01:54.039 performance tax so they were saying there was no performance tax or it wasn't significant the word I Ed was 01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:59.799 significant was has a very specific meaning by the way um it is 01:01:57.319 --> 01:02:05.440 significant Middle Earth shadow of morar ouch huge that's so 01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:08.640 brutal um so whether it's drivers actually I thought there were oh yeah no 01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:13.279 there are more uh middle or Shadow of Mordor medium settings one are actually 01:02:11.640 --> 01:02:17.599 ultra settings is very interesting but I don't know how many people are going to run it on that because it brings it from 01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:21.680 a very playable frame rate to a not very playable frame rate um but the one that 01:02:19.720 --> 01:02:27.839 I like looking at the most is medium because it brings it from a probably 01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:27.839 above your monitor refresh rate 01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:35.000 defitely not Y and even valve Zone games 01:02:32.240 --> 01:02:42.440 with portal falling behind by like 30% are not running on par and the blame is 01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:47.240 probably in some cases probably the game developer but in in many cases probably 01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:53.440 not and the blame probably falls mostly with the graphics card makers but the 01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:55.279 cold hard truth is hold on I'm going to 01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:58.839 see if I can find a source for this one of my favorite things okay this is a 01:02:56.520 --> 01:03:03.440 little bit unrelated but Metro last Redux and then they go to maximum 01:03:00.520 --> 01:03:10.880 settings and it's like doesn't run great on anything unfortunately because it's 01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:12.640 super hard to run um 9.5 to 4. yeah 01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:16.520 unfortunately I can't find a source for it but so I'm not going to give the 01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:21.480 number but someone was telling me that they had heard uh they had heard AMD say 01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:26.400 something along the lines of uh that the the the the Linux driver download 01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:30.599 percentage was very very very like lower than you'd think very very low the 01:03:28.839 --> 01:03:37.440 people who actually desire to run discret graphics cards and Linux is is 01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:40.039 very very low and I was really excited 01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:46.640 um I I was actually like really really excited by steo when I first heard about 01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:54.960 it two years ago oh yeah okay yeah it was yeah yeah so I and and valves like 01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:58.640 valves conviction um in their in their 01:03:54.960 --> 01:04:01.520 in their movement to to bring gaming to 01:03:58.640 --> 01:04:05.760 a more open platform and and I still admire valve's commitment um to bring 01:04:04.279 --> 01:04:11.039 their titles and to encourage other developers to bring their own titles to 01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:16.359 Steam OS to run on Linux natively and and what's what's cool is for most 01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:23.359 Gamers remember most gamers are still running 1080P or lower okay so most 01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:27.160 Gamers with decent hardware and remember they could afford hundred extra dollars 01:04:25.200 --> 01:04:31.720 on a graphic F card potentially if they don't buy Windows so there goes your 01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:35.240 performance tax right there you just buy better Hardware potentially so most 01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:41.240 Gamers running at 1080p um are not going to are not going 01:04:38.720 --> 01:04:46.559 to demand the kinds of experiences that for now things like VR or multim monitor 01:04:44.680 --> 01:04:49.720 multim monitor ifinity gamings like some of those things that just don't work on 01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:53.000 Linux due to driver support right now they're not going to need them and and 01:04:51.440 --> 01:05:00.559 there and there is potential for that movement to continue one one thing 01:04:56.240 --> 01:05:02.680 about the driver download stat is I'm 01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:07.920 not super great at Linux I use it fairly often but I'm actually not super great 01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:09.520 at it um I I think it's hard to say that 01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:17.279 you're super great at Linux to be completely Fair um non-official driver 01:05:13.359 --> 01:05:18.960 packs are very very very common yep and 01:05:17.279 --> 01:05:24.359 the included drivers are generally better yeah so like the the Am driver 01:05:22.279 --> 01:05:31.000 statistic might not be accurate because they're very probably using something 01:05:27.359 --> 01:05:33.960 else some I I think Mesa is a popular 01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:37.520 common one uh but I could super be wrong but I don't know but like the you use 01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:42.359 other things to control your stuff that's one of the reasons why people like Linux but that ties in really well 01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:47.039 with the end of my point which is as much as I admire valve's effort and I I 01:05:44.680 --> 01:05:52.000 hope for success for Linux gaming in general I don't think Steam OS is the 01:05:49.359 --> 01:05:56.319 answer because Steam OS is an arrow with no Bullseye to move towards like it 01:05:54.039 --> 01:06:01.799 doesn't know what it's Target it thinks it's targeting mainstream Gamers but 01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:05.680 like then it throws a controller at you that not only is different from any 01:06:03.319 --> 01:06:11.599 controller you've ever held but requires you to completely rebind everything in 01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:14.920 order to even play games a process that can be done and is no problem for a 01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:20.160 power user I was able to figure it out it was no big deal and it's very 01:06:16.640 --> 01:06:22.000 versatile but Joe Xbox gamer I mean if 01:06:20.160 --> 01:06:27.480 it's more complicated than like oh cool a magnetic d-pad alternative it's not 01:06:24.799 --> 01:06:31.400 happening not happening so and to be completely honest sometimes I feel like 01:06:29.839 --> 01:06:34.680 being a power user and sometimes I'd be like yeah I want to configure this to be 01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:38.760 like exactly how I want to run for this exact game and sometimes it's yeah but 01:06:36.680 --> 01:06:43.039 if I'm going to play like dirt showdown yeah exactly I do not want I want to 01:06:41.279 --> 01:06:47.279 plug in my controller and I never even want to open up the controller submenu I 01:06:45.359 --> 01:06:51.240 want to click race race race quick race go yeah that's it yeah because I feel 01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:56.119 like vegging that's why I'm playing a game yeah sometimes yeah I'm going to 01:06:54.160 --> 01:07:00.200 want a tinker but I don't want to have to Tinker and certain gaming experiences 01:06:58.319 --> 01:07:04.920 are worth the effort of tinkering quite frankly it's just that for me like a 01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:08.799 racing game or like a a third a third person exploring game is that's what I'm 01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:13.000 just like chilling and it's it's all my brain can do to solve whatever Lura 01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:16.799 croft's breast physics puzzle of the day is or whatever else 01:07:17.240 --> 01:07:23.920 um some of you have been asking about these shirts we're wearing so it's uh 01:07:22.319 --> 01:07:27.960 teespring.com Christmas and you can get in a variety 01:07:26.200 --> 01:07:33.680 of colors we actually went out of our way to choose ugly colors so um that's 01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:37.079 kind of the point it's kind of the point they're called ugly Christmas sweaters 01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:40.880 yep now to be clear they are not sweaters they're just t-shirt or they're 01:07:38.839 --> 01:07:42.960 excuse me they're just sweatshirts yeah but uh they're ugly what's the 01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:47.160 difference between a sweater and a sweatshirt a sweater is woven 01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:54.319 oh I had no idea 01:07:51.200 --> 01:07:57.039 yeah that actually makes a ton of sense 01:07:54.319 --> 01:08:00.039 um Pokemon generation one coming into the 3DS there's an announcement video 01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:05.960 you guys can check that out if you're into that sort of thing and that's literally all there is to say on that 01:08:03.240 --> 01:08:09.119 topic we don't know uh there there's been speculation as to whether or not I 01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:14.520 I guess there is more to say on that topic yeah there's lots to say about it actually there's been speculation as to 01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:17.719 whether or not the the old bugs will be in there because there was a lot of them 01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:25.120 and I don't mean like bug type Pokemon I mean like miso and and all that kind of 01:08:22.120 --> 01:08:28.480 stuff you like that yeah um yeah I like 01:08:25.120 --> 01:08:30.239 that I don't know because I I as far as 01:08:28.480 --> 01:08:34.920 my knowledge goes a lot of those have to do with how things were stored in memory 01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:39.359 so I don't know if that's going to translate properly CU these are Virtual 01:08:36.719 --> 01:08:45.440 Console titles for the 3DS yeah but if you're emulating the Game Boy then you 01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:49.560 could potentially emulate way I never 01:08:45.440 --> 01:08:51.480 emulated red or blue have you have you 01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:55.080 tried any of the bugs I did not own a Game Boy or Game Boy Color I have 01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:59.759 definitely played through Pokemon Blue I owned two advances I don't own an 01:08:57.080 --> 01:09:05.640 advance never did oh wow I I owned an original a color and two 01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:09.120 advances I don't like I don't maybe the chat will know if you emulate it or the 01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:14.359 bug's still there okay Brandon knows apparently and 01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:21.080 when you do emulate it the bugs are still there so maybe it'll work I don't 01:09:18.040 --> 01:09:23.480 know good job Brandon thanks 01:09:21.080 --> 01:09:27.759 Brandon okay so okay myo definitely works apparently so hopefully they don't 01:09:25.759 --> 01:09:32.719 screw with anything but they're fixing some stuff so you can wirelessly trade 01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:33.400 Pokemon now is that a fix well it's a 01:09:32.719 --> 01:09:38.920 new feature cuz you had to use the stupid Link cable yeah but that's just 01:09:37.400 --> 01:09:42.000 connecting that's connectivity of the device well that's that's a feature 01:09:40.440 --> 01:09:45.799 upgrade in my mind I don't know if that translates to the game or if that's just 01:09:43.839 --> 01:09:49.799 connectivity to the device yeah well either way that's it's it's an improved 01:09:47.799 --> 01:09:54.520 experiment it's a it's improves the experience I still have a Link cable of 01:09:51.719 --> 01:10:00.560 course you do so red blue and yellow are launching and uh there you go it is uh 01:09:58.280 --> 01:10:03.600 yeah February 27th 2016 release I'm not quite sure why it's taking so long but 01:10:02.120 --> 01:10:08.360 uh given that emulated Pokemon red blue and 01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:16.239 yellow existed for a long time the a really long performance yeah 01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:18.760 like like going back to my uh my Napster 01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:21.840 days um I Heard Napster coming back I think we talked about yeah I think we 01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:26.199 talked about that um you know what i is sort of is unrelated to this but I kind 01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:32.120 of wanted to touch on apparently they're doing an HD remake of Twilight Princess 01:10:29.320 --> 01:10:38.080 yeah are you for real that game how old is Twilight Princess like six years 01:10:35.360 --> 01:10:42.199 old I have to look it up Twilight Princess blah blah blah blah blah blah 01:10:40.400 --> 01:10:47.360 Wikipedia thank you that's for the original Wii like it's not even 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:54.960 2006 what I played Twilight Princess 9 years 01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:57.280 ago whoa we both just got a really old 01:10:54.960 --> 01:11:03.480 moment I think whoa I didn't even consider that 01:11:00.679 --> 01:11:08.080 like a collector game for me I have it at home I didn't 01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:14.719 think huh we should move on so we don't feel so old again I was I was good oh 01:11:11.440 --> 01:11:16.640 wow crap on netlink daily on the NC 01:11:14.719 --> 01:11:20.080 Channel I was like ripping into them about doing HD remakes of a game that 01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:24.040 would have been HD if the freaking console had had any decent Hardware in 01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:30.080 it which is still true by 01:11:26.120 --> 01:11:33.040 away that's so brutal but I really oh I 01:11:30.080 --> 01:11:39.679 didn't realize it wasn't that old oh my goodness Um T-Mobile is apparently going 01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:42.360 to let you stream some video for free 01:11:39.679 --> 01:11:47.000 another bold move so they're calling it Benin John man does he not look like 01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:54.600 some kind of serial rapist in every picture I was maybe not going to go that 01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:58.600 route but he's the serial rapist I love 01:11:54.600 --> 01:12:02.040 that's for sure oh wow okay whatever is 01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:07.159 doing some stuff look at that scary 01:12:02.040 --> 01:12:12.159 face um other stuff happened in the news 01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:14.440 uh EVGA is launching a 970 Fallout 4 01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:19.040 edition which is probably a little late and stuff but the back Plate's pretty 01:12:16.400 --> 01:12:24.679 cool um we should talk more about the t- hobble thing actually it's so YouTube 01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:29.600 unfortunately not included neither is Twitch they did say they are working 01:12:26.400 --> 01:12:33.679 with you too but Netflix Hulu Showtime 01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:35.679 vessel hey uh HBO Go and sling TV are 01:12:33.679 --> 01:12:39.520 supported I went to The Vessel offices last weekend oh yeah how was that 01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:48.000 there's some freaking cool people and they have a cool modern office we 01:12:44.440 --> 01:12:50.920 don't our office is functional we we 01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:55.679 have a cool office it doesn't feel very modern Once you walk into the vessel 01:12:52.800 --> 01:13:01.679 offices their space is amazing yeah there's Silicon Valley though so 01:12:57.880 --> 01:13:04.880 yeah yeah we feel very like where we are 01:13:01.679 --> 01:13:11.199 and they feel very like where they 01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:11.199 are it's like lus Media Group 01:13:11.280 --> 01:13:18.440 pragmatism it's like we have cool stuff 01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:21.480 but it's cool stuff with a purpose yeah 01:13:18.440 --> 01:13:23.080 pretty much across the board yeah their 01:13:21.480 --> 01:13:27.719 stuff has a purpose I just mean like like they have the flat floor with everybody on it 01:13:25.719 --> 01:13:33.239 yeah yeah like the only rooms are are meeting rooms and then like the the the 01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:37.400 entrance area is like large and they have extensive places to put like bikes 01:13:35.320 --> 01:13:41.560 and stuff and there's a ping pong table and they have a large K prob a couple of 01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:44.840 electric car charging ports outside they have a large kitchen which is stocked 01:13:43.120 --> 01:13:48.360 with like snack food and drinks if you need it there's a hey we have a large 01:13:46.639 --> 01:13:53.159 kitchen stocked with snack food I don't put the snack food in 01:13:51.040 --> 01:13:57.880 it yeah I don't know their office was cool and they're actually super cool 01:13:55.679 --> 01:14:01.320 yeah I had a really cool talk with him cool lot so sorry back to the T-Mobile 01:13:59.960 --> 01:14:05.800 thing I was damn it I wasn't done with that so it is it is it is speculated 01:14:03.719 --> 01:14:08.639 that the reason that the uncapped video streaming is only offered on certain 01:14:07.199 --> 01:14:13.440 Services is that it requires some backend work to compress the data so 01:14:11.480 --> 01:14:17.880 that you know T-Mobile isn't going to be stuck with the bill for putting a bunch 01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:23.280 of 1080p freaking YouTube videos all over the place um so so the idea is that 01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:27.159 it will be optimized for a small screen which makes a whole ton of sense um I 01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:31.480 that's really cool that vessel supported I guess it kind of makes sense because 01:14:29.120 --> 01:14:38.400 it looks like Hulu is also supported and vessel is the former uh former founder I 01:14:34.719 --> 01:14:40.840 believe or CEO at least of Hulu Hulu um 01:14:38.400 --> 01:14:45.960 which is kind of cool because like I just kind of chat with him sometimes and 01:14:44.120 --> 01:14:50.000 he was in the meeting yeah it's like he's a super smart dude he's super 01:14:47.440 --> 01:14:54.320 downto earth guy super smart guy and it's just like I I kind of forget when 01:14:52.480 --> 01:14:59.159 I'm talking to him that he's probably a multi bill millionaire he's also like a 01:14:56.719 --> 01:15:04.880 big deal at Amazon at some point yeah and stuff one of those like serial 01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:07.440 startup people um it's really funny a 01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:11.679 lot of people on our Forum underestimate a the number of people watching our 01:15:09.480 --> 01:15:15.600 videos on vessel and the impact that vessel has had on our business and 01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:20.199 underestimate vessel's chances at continued survival they are not stupid 01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:25.440 they are not new and they are not going away so 01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:30.520 yeah there's a there's a little bit for you um I guess that's pretty much it you 01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:35.920 need to do a shout out for Desert buus yeah okay where's the notes for that at 01:15:33.360 --> 01:15:43.560 the very bottom before sponsors uh uh November 14th so tomorrow um 01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:48.320 desert bus for Hope is a charity marathon where where for some of you 01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:51.880 today yeah actually in Europe but this 01:15:48.320 --> 01:15:53.960 is PST time so no it is Pacific Daylight 01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:57.800 time or wait no it is Pacific Standard time damn it yes it's Standard Time 01:15:55.760 --> 01:16:03.280 right now right yeah okay I think so I don't know yeah yeah minus8 minus 8 GMT 01:16:00.120 --> 01:16:04.600 right okay um loading ready run is doing 01:16:03.280 --> 01:16:11.560 their desert bus for Hope Charity Marathon which they've been doing for a long time where they play desert bus 01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:15.600 Which is the worst most boring 01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:17.679 game careful yeah that's why I stopped 01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:23.199 maybe not the worst bus is driving through a desert it's it's pretty rough 01:16:20.080 --> 01:16:25.480 there some pretty bad games up there yes 01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:29.360 um the the bus I I don't remember if it either veers left or right but it slowly 01:16:27.639 --> 01:16:34.040 veers One Direction so you have to just keep making it go straight but I think 01:16:31.960 --> 01:16:38.760 it auto goes for you and if you screw up you have to restart the whole thing and 01:16:36.120 --> 01:16:43.040 it's just it's it's ridiculous they're hilarious it's tons of fun to watch it's 01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:48.239 starting at 10: a.m. PST Saturday November 14th their charity website is 01:16:45.040 --> 01:16:48.239 just desertbusforhope 01:16:55.159 --> 01:17:01.320 have done it not me I didn't do anything 01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:03.280 cool um but what I did do is I put 01:17:01.320 --> 01:17:07.080 together a list of the cool people and the cool things that they did and the 01:17:05.120 --> 01:17:12.440 Afterparty today is going to be all about the honorable mentions and winners 01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:14.880 of ultrawide Festival so thank you for 01:17:12.440 --> 01:17:20.360 tuning in to the W show today and that is the outro oh I didn't get to wave 01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:34.800 there have you had enough waving you good I was just going to go until you cut the 01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:35.960 stream damn it oh wait that's an overlay 01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:38.880 I thought you put it in the corner I was like I have to keep going 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