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I spent the better part of two years renovating my house into the ultimate

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Tech house and while the super fast 10 gig networking ball and Wi-Fi and custom

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theater room are freaking awesome there's a couple of things

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that didn't exactly go according to plan

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you see it wouldn't be much of an ultimate Tech house if it wasn't smart

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and as a father of three the first thing that came to mind was automatic lights

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so like any sane person would I installed over 100 GE Jasco smart motion

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switches only to discover that they were so buggy that they've rendered my entire

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Z-Wave smart home network pretty much inoperable not very smart which maybe

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wouldn't be so bad if even the dumb functionality like the integrated motion

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sensors worked freaking half decent come

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on hello luckily for me inavi another Smart

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Switch company heard my cries and decided to design a Smart Switch that

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would solve all of my problems using millimeter wave technology which can

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detect people even when they aren't moving after raising nearly half a

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million dollars on Indiegogo and spending many painful months on R&D I

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finally have one in my hands and today sponsored by homie and their homie Pro

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Smart Hub we're going to start fresh and we're going to try these out and

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hopefully see the beginning of the end of my smart at home troubles I really

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hope these work because I don't think my marriage is going to survive another

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pool party with the lights turning off every 5 minutes it won't before we get

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too deep into the Cool Tech in these let's talk about the problems that inavi

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was trying to solve you guys already saw that the motion sensors are anything but

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senstive but there's a lot more for starters if you have a three-way switch

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so that's two switches controlling the same fixture you can only have a motion

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sensor on one of them and then a dummy on the other side which for stairs can

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be a downright safety issue because it'll automatically turn the lights on

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when you're going one way but not the other this one drives me crazy I like to

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have the lights off when I go to bed but I want the motion sensors active in case

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I need to get up but by the time I can get away from them they activate again

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and you can't reconfigure that this one's been a real be in my Bonnet my old

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switches will only fade on and fade off

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which can be quite hard on Smart bulbs and other non- dimmable fixtures

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not that they behave much better with dimable bulbs and you can see what I

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mean here in the gaming room this is one of the ones that still works the worst

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part though is that they've gummed up my zwave network so much that I can't even

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adopt the last 20% or so of the switches

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and I'm even having issues with non Jasco devices like my baliy wave blinds

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the blinds have been a particularly sore spot for me because the switches are way

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up here and I'm well vertically challenged it's not like I want to

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replace my switches we managed to get Jasco to release the firmware for this

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product which wasn't previously available Unfortunately they never

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updated it to fix any of this stuff and when I reached out to a Z-Wave wizard

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who offered to help me they basically said wow I've never

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seen anything this bad

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before In fairness to Jasco part of the problem is I have so many devices

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but like it's a smart home that's the idea and besides no amount of firmware

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updates is going to fix that infrared motion sensing it's kind of last

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millennium's technology let's talk about homie and first these new inabi switches

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inavi was actually one of the Front Runners when we were sampling options

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for the house and they would have been my first choice they've got a sick LED

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bar that can help finding switches in the dark show the dimming level and even

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be programmed to display alerts and stuff like that they worked flawlessly

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on our testing the only problem is they didn't have a motion dimmer or any kind

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of presence detector at the time but now

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they do despite many delays this is a

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complicated product and they wanted to make this work it's finally here let's

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try it oh shoot I need a stubby uh LTD

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store.com well the switch Works what

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that's good so much more responsive well it works like a normal switch which is

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I'll never take for granted again but I couldn't help noticing that the motion sensing is not working it's not adopted

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yet I don't know what the default behavior is and this firmware is like

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very Alpha okay let's adopt it just testing to do that I could use my

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existing home assistant instance and Z-Wave stick but the problem with that

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idea is that I don't have these new inell switches yet I need to rely on

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these Jasco ones for a while longer and if I unpair them and start fresh

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it is going to be a nightmare so instead I'm turning to our sponsor homie and

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we're going to be using the homie Pro to start over for the uninitiated zwave is

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a wireless low energy smart home communication standard that operates in

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the 900 MHz Bend which is great for me

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because I need to not interfere with my already also kind of mangled 2.4 GHz

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Wi-Fi that's why I didn't want to go with zigg but the homie pro hub can do

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both without issue so we could try zigg later for now um that was the physical

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aspect of the setup so let's get it configured let's add a new homie homie

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Pro mhm mhm found homie Pro hey look at

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that changes color oh it supports 5 GHz Wi-Fi don't

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take that for granted with smart home stuff okay set up my home how many Flo

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does your home have a couple I'm setting up all the zones right now or at least

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I'm trying that this is seriously like a pretty pretty clean interface well we're

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set up the whole process took about 4 minutes now what while we could add that

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switch as a generic Z-Wave device there is an inovi app just not officially it's

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still kind of in development so I got to just manually add it typically when you

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add one that has an app it'll pop up and be like you should use the app when you try to add it oh cool that doesn't work

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yet everything's very Alpha by the way shout out to homie for being absolute

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homies and working within AI to get this going for us they were literally fixing

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things for me this morning actual Chads and what's the benefit of

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an app it just gives you specific customization stuff and then we go back

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to homie and in theory apps boom already

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there sweet okay now we can add a device

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now we can add a device we're going to have to go to the switch though let's do it did you add office yet yeah I mean

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that's the only reason it took me like four or five minutes to do this is because adding on the rooms here we go

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office and then connect device no belly

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this is a smart present sensing dimmer I'm sure they'll have a catchier name

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for it at some point yeah uh do I need to press the pair button three times

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quickly and then do it again again yeah

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twice more I mean let do just do it again trust me your house is pretty

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mangled in the 900 MHz range for whatever reason I think it's pretty

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mangled in every range right now and I imagine that switch right next to it

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it's probably not helping no probably not we might need to move the Hub over

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here just to get it to comend you know

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that makes sense once you've got a whole bunch of devices paired to it they'll

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mesh up and that's not going to be a problem but just to make life simpler

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for ourselves he told me not to get these GE switches and he takes every

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possible opportunity to rub it I haven't said it today yeah not today I tried to

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get you to get the in ones and have different motion sensors and I

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understand why you didn't want to do that but also I wanted it all clean and

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integrated if you could go back would you I think what I would have done is

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just left regular switches until inavi developed these but then inavi might

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have never developed these if I didn't make my video complaining that they didn't exist yeah so I would change

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nothing you know what's inside there it's actually a raspy compute module

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really yeah it's a cm4 oh cool yeah that

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means it's good and should actually be really well supported yeah that's a good

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sign hey there we go hey look at that device completed

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perfect continue setup we are in the office i' already picked that up and

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then I guess we should just change this to like office switch like this whole

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thing is so beta still that they only made like 50 of this version and we got

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two of them to test out uh I mean it works as a light switch right now let's

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see if the motion's picking up oh look at that motion alarm

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yes oh and cool actually let's see so

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with the lights all the way on it's 50 wats of power and we should

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see the light value the luminance go up in a little bit here

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probably let's see oh wow there's even like

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charts no data obviously cuz we just adopted it I do today no no day yet okay

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we're paired now which means in theory I should be able to turn it

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off probably it's a lot smarter than my old ones and it has a bit of a delay on

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this but I should be able to move oh it

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definitely disects you oh well for crying out loud okay well how do we make it turn on with motion well I think we'd

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have to leave for a bit and then come back

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okay oh I can do that I actually I don't

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know what the timeout is like they didn't send me a list of parameters it

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seems that they match up with their old style switches for the other stuff but

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obviously the old style switches don't have a motion sensor cool okay I'm going

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to try it's still detecting motion what it still detects us like most smart home

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things it doesn't update all the time because otherwise it' be way too much

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traffic so it probably updates like once a minute or something like that all right we'll give it a sec I don't know

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maybe we're in the reflection of something right now

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oh glass door you know uh okay stuff like this is part of

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the reason they're not actually going to be using that sensor that's in that

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switch in the production version there's a new sensor which uses I think 79 GHz

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instead of 24 GHz in that one and it has a bunch more configuration like you can

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tell it to only track in a small section of the sensor and stuff like that

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actually now is a good time for us to explain this new sensor technology that

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they're using the big game changer here is millimeter wave the old ones use

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passive infrared sensors which measure radiation or heat from things like

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humans cats Etc the new Switch uses millimeter wave which is named after the

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wavelength of radio signals in the 3 to 300ish GHz range it uses those to detect

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presence and these sensors are so accurate they can easily detect someone

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even if they're trying to stay still because just breathing is enough to

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trigger them that makes them useful not for just motion and being aware of

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something that's broadly in the vicinity but exactly how many things are in the

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vicinity where they are and potentially what doing it's like radar so cool a

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little big brothery but cool any luck oh

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I don't think it's working Jake oh no no oh it did work on the other one it

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showed on my side that when you walked in that it was on but it wasn't on I

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love Alpha Testing should we try the other one they sent two of them who

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knows maybe this one's bunk the most important part for me is honestly not

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the turning on when I go near them I already got that I want them to not turn

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off when I'm just sitting still in the room while we're waiting why don't we

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pair some blinds cuz I was having a heck of a time getting any of those to pair

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with home assistant okay I mean realistically are you going to control

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this area differently than those ones actually maybe yes yeah okay so we'll

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call this like the Nook yeah sure okay

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um I could put it under kitchen maybe y

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new Zone kitchen mil and we'll put it part

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of lovely connect device let's try it all right oh wait we got to add that the

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app perfect we can add the app new app I

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don't know why it opens in a web browser but it seems to work like beautifully so

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whatever uh Bali there's a new version of my blinds

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that has Bluetooth that makes them a little easier to configure and stuff it

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would have been like you probably missed the cut off by like a couple months nice

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I had an absolute demon of a time trying to get these things to pair with my

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setup like they just wouldn't Nook middle

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blinds I guess okay I mean you're not

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going to need to address them individually but it would be good to

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have it set if you did have to do that okay and then I guess this one okay um

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how I mean I I don't need a I can read

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I'm fine I can't believe these are just

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pairing yeah did you try them before I did but setup like did it work what do

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you mean like did you try them with my setup before with no no they don't work

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yeah I guess that's the issue with a mesh network if it's made up of devices that

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are just a mesh get it a mesh a

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mess anyway the point is Windows are one of the main things you'd want to build

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automations for because you know Energy Efficiency and stuff like that and I

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just haven't been able to do it cuz I haven't been able to pair these bloody things to my broken Z-Wave Network this

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is great and the homie hub's not even that close anymore now that we've got a

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couple light switches paired to it the mesh is happening fortunately homie is

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compatible with a ton of other products so if you don't already have Z-Wave

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blinds in your house you can use something like the rise Smart Shade

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system which can turn normal blinds into Smart Ones in order to control all these

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as a group I'm going to use something called a flow which is what homie calls

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its automation system I went ahead and created one that says when this flow

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started that's something you would just like manually Trigger or trigger with another flow and then set all the

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positions to 100% which is to open all of them the opposite one close sets them

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all to 0% and then when we hit go hey there we

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go for those that want even more control they also have advanced flows in the web

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version of the homie app it's still easy to use everything is drag and drop but

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it gives you a lot more flexibility for example I made an advanced flow that

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pulls our subscriber count from the YouTube API that way I can make it so

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Linus's home automations only work if the subscriber count goes up that day

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now we get to try the light switch what do you think Jake motion going to work

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doesn't seem like it they clearly weren't working are you

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kidding me what do you mean they clearly were working they weren't working yeah

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but we could have checked the thing to see I already did and it detected it

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yeah it still says yes as of 20 minutes ago I think there's something in this

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room that moves enough that it's triggering

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still we might have to try it in a different room oh you know what lonus

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look what's right right in front of the light switch smart thermostat no turn

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around what the vines no those are fake

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yeah but they'll move they're not going to move like with the HV fact they might

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I reckon we try it in a bathroom or something where like nothing's going on

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there's a reason they're changing the sensor and there is no tuning parameters

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right now it will be better credit to

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homie though their stuff has worked flawlessly so far I know this actually

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been great it it wait it just worked it

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worked it worked it it picked you up

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from under the door crack well like like I said it's really sensitive and this

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light switch is pointed at the door so even like walking over here could be

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enough of like an air pressure differential to move the door enough to trigger that like it's not a great

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position to have a millimeter wave sensor you know what I mean but but with

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the other one we could set no zones for it right yeah over to here would be like

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detection and then here the door should we try one more different spot with the

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other light switch you just want me to zap myself I mean kind of we want to do

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another demo in the bathroom downstairs so I'm just throwing in one of in's red

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series switches so I at least have a working switch in this room it's been driving us crazy while we've been trying

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to scrapbook yes I scrapbook there's nothing wrong with that in this bathroom

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there should not be anything that can move so hopefully we can get a good

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clean demo here I'm actually super excited though that these are so

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sensitive because that bathroom upstairs man if you sit and you know play mobile

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games or read something on the toilet

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you're stuck in the dark and I already showed you guys how hard it is to

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reactivate the motion sensors I have now you're figuring out your business in

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the dark until you're all the way up when that happens so this is going to

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be awesome with proper presence detection those lights in there draw 25

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WTS if you're wondering wa no wait they have power monitoring that's pretty cool

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they also have light sensors so if it's like really bright in a certain room and you don't want the lights to turn on

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automatically when it's bright you can set it up to do that how would that work with homie you could say like if it

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turns on and this is too high then don't

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sick yeah

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okay okay it works you hadn't even walked in yet now the question

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is how sensitive is

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it well there's probably a timeout

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right I don't I don't think it will trigger again until the motion is like

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cleared for a little bit and then triggered again knowing in AI I'm sure

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there'll be configuration options for that too there just isn't right now or

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at least I don't know what they are it still knows I'm in here though right oh

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yeah cool why need you walk out for a second and then try it again okay I'll

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walk out let's see I'm kind of stoked on how simple homie is it's really simple

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why did I do the whole home assistant thing again well I don't know hey look

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no it's clear okay so it's about a minute run in there again it might be

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exactly a minute I want to see just how sensitive it is you're going to sneak up

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on it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah just just

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hold on dude the door is going to trigger this a l hold on I'm going to

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just I don't think it can see me down

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there ow my finger is

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stuck okay well yeah oh that's why it

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couldn't see cuz of the molding dude dude the second I was clear

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of this occlusion here it was

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on I don't think we're going to fool

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it it still says motion buddy you're just wasting your time I give up there's

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no way I'm going to be able to hide from this thing which is a good thing you want a presence detection system to work

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like this so that's good now you can Doom scroll on the in peace I think

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the best thing about today is just how painless everything was I'm used to

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having range issues that I need to sort out with like USB extensions on my zwave

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stick but instead the homie Pro just

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immediately worked cuz I can put it anywhere I want instead of it being stuck in my concrete basement they've

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got a ton of different solutions so while the homie Pro is a little on the

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pricier side for some they also have the homie Bridge which is a much cheaper Hub

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that can be used as an extension for the homie Pro or can be used Standalone with

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their Cloud software in a subscription for myself I just like having everything

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running locally and fortunately homie does have that option and doesn't

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require subscription for that we'll have links to homie and the rest of the stuff

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that we showed off in the video description before we wrap up there's a couple other things we should highlight

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from homie their dashboards are in beta they provide a customizable visual

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interface to control and monitor your smart home devices there's a high degree

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of personalization you can have real-time control and insights into things like temperature energy usage or

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security status it's available on the homey app for iOS and Android and we

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haven't even shown you some of the other really cool features like homie mve

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they allow you to quickly capture and set the lighting in your home by creating custom moods or choosing from

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pre-made ones and while Jake showed you guys homie flows there's a whole other

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level of customization with homie script which I think is more for the Jakes of

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the world and I probably wouldn't touch what I will touch is those finished

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switches and then maybe between now and then we can figure out do I keep home

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assistant or do I just go with something simpler I don't know homies seems to

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work pretty good and they're homies

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if you guys enjoyed this video why not check out the one where we originally installed my Jasco switches it was kind

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of a nightmare but hey what do you mean it kind of a nightmare we're still

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living in it sometimes that's fun for you guys