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In April of last year, AMD went from always a generation or three behind to blindsiding Intel with their shockingly competitive first-gen Ryzen processors based on their all-new Zen architecture.

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Fast forward a year, and second-gen Ryzen with Zen Plus has been around for a few months now, with no response from the blue team... yet.

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But in spite of all of this, among many enthusiasts, there's still this attitude that persists that goes,

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well, if you're not poor people, then you should just get Intel.

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So we decided to challenge that perception, and we've got some interesting findings to share with you today.

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After, we tell you about GlassWire.

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We know that some of you are just gonna skip to the conclusion anyway, so we're gonna make your life easier.

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The short answer is, yes.

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AMD is a viable alternative to Intel, but the long answer has a few...

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butts in it.

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Now, initially, we had wanted to do an in-depth exploration into things like cache hierarchies and

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IMC peculiarities, plus, you know,

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did-you-knows like Infinity Fabric connecting the dies inside of Ryzen running at half of the memory clock.

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But I mean, let's face it, if you guys cared about that kind of stuff, you'd be watching Gamers Nexus.

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So we're gonna focus on the results.

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Frames per second in games, render times in professional applications, and a side dish of power consumption and storage.

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Before we even get there, though, we need to talk about price.

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When we built up and priced out our two competing tests,

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Benches it became obvious why some people see AMD as the the poor man's choice.

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Between Intel's higher CPU price, and lack of a decent included cooler on their k-series chips, our AMD platform was over

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$60 cheaper.

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Finally, you guys probably noticed that we're running at different memory speeds.

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Intel's IMC actually does tend to handle high frequency kits better than AMD's, but their spec is

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actually

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more conservative.

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And we're leaving overclocking out of this comparison today.

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So this is bone stock apples

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versus officially supported apples.

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First up then is our gaming benchmarks.

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In a huge surprise to only the small group of AMD fanboys

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who insist on remaining willfully ignorant for some reason,

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in the overwhelming majority of cases,

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Intel's 8700K defeats the Ryzen 7 2700X.

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And in some cases, like in GTA 5, by a substantial margin,

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I mean, I'm talking 20 to 30% greater performance

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depending on the resolution.

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And that 4K result really stands out.

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I mean, that is a resolution that should be GPU bound

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on pretty much any modern processor.

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If our recent video about system bottlenecks

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is anything to go by.

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With that in mind, you can put down your pitchforks,

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hashtag AMDRAID.

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And I'm gonna go ahead and get into the red team

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because we are going to point out

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that not once did we encounter a situation

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where our gaming experience

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at the same graphical settings, of course,

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went from playable on the 8700K to unplayable on Ryzen.

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It just doesn't change that the 8700K is better for gaming.

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Full stop.

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And that's even before you get into anomalies like CSGO.

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For the record,

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enabling gaming mode via AMD's Ryzen Master software

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actually dropped the FPS across the board

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with like two exceptions and requires a restart

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in between modes.

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So we're not huge fans of it.

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Our Ryzen 7 2700X did win

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in some of the synthetic gaming benchmarks though,

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thanks to its two extra cores,

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which doesn't indicate anything about real games,

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but does foreshadow our productivity results.

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Out of the 11 tests we ran, AMD is offering outright,

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one nine, sometimes putting significant distance

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between itself and the blue team.

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I mean, 7-zip was 50% faster,

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which it should be noted does affect aspects

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of your system's performance

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beyond just unzipping the files

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you download from the internet.

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ASUS real bench encoding was 32% faster

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while multi-threaded Cinebench was 28% faster.

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I mean, Intel did remind AMD

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who the single threaded boss was by beating

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it by 15% in single threaded Cinebench,

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but that was its only win with our last result,

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the real bench image editing test,

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almost as close as the results of the last scrapyard wars.

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So basically a tie depending on who you ask,

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but there's more to life than CPU performance.

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Let's take a look at some of the quality of life differences.

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One thing that we noticed was that game load times

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were affected when we moved between platforms.

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Even with the exact same drive,

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we found a variance of up to 15% each way

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with Intel on average ending up about 5% faster than AMD.

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And like the differences in gaming benchmarks,

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this isn't something that you would immediately notice

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in a Pepsi challenge taste test, but it is there.

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Power consumption was also about 10 Watts higher at idle

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and 20 Watts higher under load on the AMD platform.

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Finally,

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we wanted to touch on the accelerated storage options

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that each platform features,

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because we really feel that this is an excellent way

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to get better than hard drive performance

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while not giving up on capacity.

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Now we did a more in-depth piece on this a little while ago,

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but in summary, Intel has obtained caching,

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which we have seen work wonders on game load times.

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And then from our testing,

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AMD's store MI is more cumbersome to use

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with some unpleasant limitations.

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Well, the big winner, if you watch that video,

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which you probably should,

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was actually a third-party software called Primo Cash.

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So there you have it.

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AMD is a less expensive solution compared to Intel,

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and it mostly loses in gaming.

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So you know what?

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The trolling from the gaming crowd

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about AMD being a second rate solution,

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that does have some merit to it, unfortunately.

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But the easy comeback is,

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well, it's great that your machine games faster,

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but I've got real work to do.

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And if that is actually true of you,

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then AMD is a great choice.

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I mean, really the only thing that could disqualify

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either of them at this point is platform stability.

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And Ryzen has matured a lot since its initial launch,

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to the point where as long as you don't need store MI,

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the final answer comes down to what your mix is.

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And as usual, it depends.

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Are you a 60% productivity person who games on the side?

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Go Ryzen.

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And don't look back.

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You saved a buck, but you still got a great system.

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What's wrong with that?

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Meanwhile, are you the gamer who froze together

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the occasional headshot compilation video?

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Well, you might wanna consider paying the Intel tax.

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With new graphics cards comes more FPS

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