WEBVTT 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:08.360 these I was expecting we've got the OnePlus 12 and 12r with OnePlus proudly 00:00:05.359 --> 00:00:10.400 displaying their never settle slogan and 00:00:08.360 --> 00:00:16.880 talking a lot about a return to their Flagship killer routs what I wasn't 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:19.400 expecting is this a 50 wat wireless 00:00:16.880 --> 00:00:25.279 charger this thing will charge wirelessly faster than most phones 00:00:22.119 --> 00:00:27.840 charge over a wire even many flagships 00:00:25.279 --> 00:00:33.040 like oh I don't know the iPhone 15 and the Samsung s24 Ultra we're going to get 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:39.200 to that in a minute let's start with the OnePlus 12 they have absolutely packed 00:00:36.120 --> 00:00:42.879 this thing with kind of jaw-dropping 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:45.360 claims oh wow is that ever gorgeous jeez 00:00:42.879 --> 00:00:49.280 Oppo has always pushed the envelope when it comes to the design of their backs 00:00:47.480 --> 00:00:54.359 sorry they have packed this thing with features with everything from 80 W wired 00:00:51.920 --> 00:01:00.440 charging with their super vuk technology which no way they actually include a 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:06.799 capable charger in the Box what an idea to 50 W wireless charging to a claimed 00:01:04.360 --> 00:01:12.000 Peak brightness of 4,500 nits on their OLED display now we 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:16.000 weren't able to measure that outside of the developer menu where they have a 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:19.520 peak brightness test and then you can shine a bright flashlight into the 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:24.960 ambient light sensor in order to get it to hit that number OnePlus also claimed 00:01:22.240 --> 00:01:31.560 20 hours of YouTube playback which this phone completely annihilated we saw 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:35.240 almost 28 hours of playback in YouTube 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:36.320 at 200 nits display brightness wow on 00:01:35.240 --> 00:01:42.880 the outside of the phone we've got The Usual Suspects with our lock button volume rocker does this thing have an IR 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:48.600 emitter super cool Amplified earpiece speaker and bottom speaker Sim slot and 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:51.640 USBC charging port along with oneplus's 00:01:48.600 --> 00:01:53.600 trademark notification slider you got to 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:58.520 love to see it and on the inside it's got the latest Snapdragon 8 gen 3 00:01:55.640 --> 00:02:03.479 processor with oneplus's biggest vapor chamber cooler to date they're saying 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:04.719 it's about 14 Square in in area which is 00:02:03.479 --> 00:02:09.239 pretty wild when you consider the overall size of the device OnePlus says 00:02:07.240 --> 00:02:14.120 this contributes to both the cooling of the screen and cooling of the S so but 00:02:12.760 --> 00:02:18.360 we'll get to this in a little bit more detail later we found that having a 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:22.840 bigger Vapor chamber doesn't necessarily help you avoid thermal throttling if you 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:26.879 don't add any kind of active cooling to the outside of the device the cameras 00:02:25.160 --> 00:02:32.400 are another big area of focus for OnePlus that is a sizable camera bump 00:02:30.239 --> 00:02:36.760 but far from the deepest one that I've seen lately it's pretty manageable and 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:43.040 we're looking at a 50 megap main shooter with a 64 megapixel Periscope telephoto 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:44.840 and a 48 megapix ultrawide that is a 00:02:43.040 --> 00:02:49.519 really fast lens on the main shooter too f1.6 with Optical image stabilization 00:02:47.440 --> 00:02:54.080 actually have pretty high expectations for this the one area where OnePlus has 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:58.159 really struggled for me in the past has been video but in terms of photo like 00:02:56.560 --> 00:03:01.560 man that's responsive that's a ton of dynamic range like I really just don't 00:02:59.760 --> 00:03:07.560 don't really know what I would complain about stutter though as I'm panning 00:03:04.799 --> 00:03:12.760 around yeah it's no iPhone is it it's not bad but it's no iPhone there's one 00:03:10.480 --> 00:03:18.879 thing that you got to give to Apple God does video ever look good on the iPhone 00:03:14.640 --> 00:03:21.640 excuse me excuse me on 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:28.519 iPhone inside the phone we've got Wi-Fi 7 Bluetooth 5.4 12 or 16 gigs of RAM 00:03:25.239 --> 00:03:30.959 with 256 or 512 gigs of storage and 00:03:28.519 --> 00:03:36.760 Corning victus 2 glass with an aluminum frame enough about the 12 because the 12 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:42.519 okay Flagship killer I guess now that flagships are 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:44.080 $1,200 the 12r is the one that I think 00:03:42.519 --> 00:03:49.040 is going to be in a more interesting price band for many of our viewers today 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:58.120 it's got a lot of the same goodness as the 12 it's got that same 4500 nit Peak 00:03:53.439 --> 00:04:01.040 brightness on its also ltpo 120 HZ 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:05.799 AMOLED display for that oh so butter smoothness it's got the same number of 00:04:03.200 --> 00:04:11.959 cameras but they have been downgraded a touch it's got the same support for 80 w 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:17.040 super vuk charging including an included charging brick which is really nice to 00:04:14.720 --> 00:04:21.759 see but it's got a bit of a smaller screen and some other unexpected 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:26.280 exclusions no wireless charging although that does come with a benefit you 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:29.160 actually get a 100 mamp larger battery 00:04:26.280 --> 00:04:34.880 in the 12r and that did result in real world G GES in battery life this thing 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:36.680 saw almost 30 hours of battery life in 00:04:34.880 --> 00:04:42.600 our YouTube playback test that is flipping impressive but the bigger one 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:48.000 is that it uses the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 it is using a last generation chipset 00:04:45.840 --> 00:04:53.240 however as we saw in our performance testing this might not be as big of a 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:57.280 deal to you as you might think as it turns out in our Benchmark Suite which 00:04:55.960 --> 00:05:01.080 admittedly at this point is going to need some upgrading the real world 00:04:59.320 --> 00:05:05.639 differ difference in performance is almost negligible because we are more 00:05:02.960 --> 00:05:09.919 often capped by the frame rate limiter of the applications that we are running 00:05:07.960 --> 00:05:13.000 than by the performance of the S so another thing that we noticed when we 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:19.000 were doing our performance testing was that in our stress test the 12 actually 00:05:16.320 --> 00:05:23.039 thermal throttled so much that even though it scores much higher in 00:05:20.880 --> 00:05:27.160 synthetic benchmarks like 3D Mark when you run them over and over and over 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:32.280 again it throttles down to Performance that is only about 10% High so if you're 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:36.160 a hardcore mobile gamer and you're going to be playing for hours at a time the 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:40.840 real world difference in performance might not be that much now some of that 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:46.440 can be accounted for by the slightly higher resolution of the OnePlus 12's 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:50.680 screen but not all of it it does have the same victus two glass covering but 00:05:48.520 --> 00:05:56.240 what it doesn't have is the same storage options it's only available with 128 or 00:05:53.520 --> 00:05:59.560 256 gigs of storage I also haven't really tried the camera yet so here's 00:05:57.840 --> 00:06:03.600 what we're going to do I'm going to take some pictures with this after I tell you 00:06:00.960 --> 00:06:10.199 about our sponsor oh God it's dbrand they are supporting the OnePlus 00:06:06.880 --> 00:06:12.160 12 show images on screen apparently 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:16.800 that's all dbrand wants me to say about their OnePlus 12 skins because they 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:18.919 instead wanted to use this ad spot to 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:23.240 make me read a Reddit thread I assume that's why you're standing here with a 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:26.240 computer oh this I've seen the Reddit 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:28.440 thread let's get D Brand's attention to 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:32.440 sponsor lonus to dye his hair blonde again upside down smiley face it should 00:06:30.840 --> 00:06:39.240 be for charity like sponsoring a computer Club you now you've put me in a 00:06:35.840 --> 00:06:41.599 position where if I say no I'm basically 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:47.720 saying no to Children you know what you did I should be using this as an 00:06:43.080 --> 00:06:47.720 opportunity see look that is the face of 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:56.800 a that's the mug of a man who knows what he did I guess let dbrand know in the 00:06:54.599 --> 00:07:01.000 comments if you'd like me to disappoint children or if you'd like me to raise 00:06:59.080 --> 00:07:05.080 some money money for children uh I can hardly tell this these cameras are not 00:07:02.960 --> 00:07:08.520 as good it looks like I've got something on the lens but I did 00:07:08.520 --> 00:07:15.160 not Stills are all right though yeah 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:20.759 Stills are all right that video quality though and I haven't even tried the 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:22.720 ultra wide yet it's only 8 megapixels 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:28.039 that's one of the biggest downgrades over the OnePlus 11 because otherwise on 00:07:24.840 --> 00:07:30.039 paper the 12r looks like an amazing 00:07:28.039 --> 00:07:35.240 Choice compared to the 11 they've got very similar specs other than we get 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:39.919 upgraded glass a bigger battery faster charging oh there is one small little 00:07:37.960 --> 00:07:45.960 bug bear OnePlus originally said that the 12r had ufs 4.0 support for its 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:49.919 storage but it's actually 3.1 so that's a downgrade over a OnePlus 11 if you 00:07:48.080 --> 00:07:52.520 could get a deal on one of those but other than that man I think the cameras 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:57.680 are the biggest deal and I don't know about you guys but the only time I ever 00:07:54.919 --> 00:08:02.599 use my ultrawide camera is when I want to take a picture of a room and like put 00:08:00.599 --> 00:08:07.639 markup on it like honestly that's the only thing I think I've ever used it for 00:08:04.400 --> 00:08:09.400 is like uh yeah um here's a picture of 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:13.039 this room we're going to Ikea I'm going to write some measurements and like 00:08:11.039 --> 00:08:16.759 where those spots are so that I can remember what my room looks like when 00:08:14.400 --> 00:08:20.479 I'm walking around in that Labyrinthian store like it feels like you're in there 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:25.199 for so long you don't even know what year it is or where you live anymore 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:26.560 both phones are only rated for ip65 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:31.199 water resistance which is a little on the weaker side for a modern device but 00:08:29.080 --> 00:08:35.120 they ' got something water related that is pretty darn cool OnePlus has 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:40.000 something that they're calling Aqua touch I'm sorry what is this hypertouch 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:44.480 algorithm makes it like work better when the screen is wet I've been provided 00:08:41.800 --> 00:08:47.519 with a spritzer bottle and I guess I'll attempt to type a 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:55.839 message I mean that seems like pretty good right let's let's go for accuracy 00:08:52.560 --> 00:09:00.440 okay give me a 100 character sentence go 00:08:55.839 --> 00:09:03.040 subscribe to Short 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:07.839 oops that was me circuit that is pretty darn good it's 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:12.680 bang on I like you uh here we go I mean what 00:09:11.680 --> 00:09:19.760 could go wrong um oh boy well that's something I 00:09:17.640 --> 00:09:25.440 can't even get I can't even get a text box hello I am 00:09:23.640 --> 00:09:29.880 typing oh and we lost it yeah that's pretty 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:36.680 much the experience I whenever my hands are wet in the tub we're down to 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:38.360 34% which means it's time to try 50 W 00:09:36.680 --> 00:09:43.680 wireless charging and what I'm really interested in is what's shaken with our 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:47.560 charger here we're at 30 Watts from the wall there will be quite a bit of 00:09:45.160 --> 00:09:53.519 inefficiency going from AC to DC then from DC to um magnetic induction 00:09:50.920 --> 00:09:59.399 charging is that it it's going down air V charging buddy 00:09:57.880 --> 00:10:03.440 this isn't the only thing we weren't able to see working the way OnePlus said 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:06.480 their frame interpolation technology we just couldn't get it working and they're 00:10:05.040 --> 00:10:11.839 on Chinese New Year right now so they were like oh we can't really look into this so your mileage may vary on that as 00:10:09.560 --> 00:10:15.959 well but 27 Watts from the wall that means realistically we're probably only 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:21.399 getting about 20 watts here it's possible that it'll only do that kind of 00:10:18.079 --> 00:10:23.079 speed from 0% but we're at 35 I think 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:28.160 it's a pretty reasonable expectation that it would charge pretty fast when 00:10:25.040 --> 00:10:30.079 it's at 35% oh there's one more thing we 00:10:28.160 --> 00:10:35.519 haven't checked out the speaker ERS yet oh my God 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:38.200 Google this was such a mistake what is 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:42.959 any of this remember when the mail icon was red so you could actually tell what 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:47.680 the hell it was and when Maps was a map sorry sorry sorry this is this is 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:55.160 not oneplus's fault 100% on Google a little 00:10:51.680 --> 00:10:56.519 bright but a big part of the problem is 00:10:55.160 --> 00:11:01.040 how loud I have it I wouldn't normally need this at 100% 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:06.720 it's really good yeah it's really clean 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:11.240 how about the 12r Amplified earpiece speaker nice to see that on a budget 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:16.360 phone this is still an expensive phone but it's a little thing that is often 00:11:13.839 --> 00:11:16.360 cheaped out 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:24.160 on if there's a downgrade here it's not going to affect you too much I'd say 00:11:22.040 --> 00:11:28.000 they're not quite as bright but they're still really loud and clear enough that 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:32.160 you're going to be able to enjoy pretty much anything you would want to enjoy on 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:34.959 your phone speakers and otherwise you're just going to want to get out your your 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:38.959 earphones or whatever the case may be now it's time for the hard question 00:11:36.680 --> 00:11:45.040 which one would I choose $300 less but that does come with a 00:11:42.800 --> 00:11:51.160 capacity downgrade here not to mention of course the spec downgrade or $300 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:55.120 more but of course with more capacity more performance and bursty loads in 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:57.800 particular I think this just comes down to your budget and what kind of deal 00:11:56.240 --> 00:12:03.880 you're going to get from your carrier as someone who takes a lot of pict pictures of my kids I am really not liking not 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:06.519 having a decent camera on my phone right now and I'd say that that could be 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:13.160 something that could push me over the edge to the 12 but I want to hear from you guys in the comments 12 or 12 r or 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:17.240 something else entirely whatever it is I don't care as long as you're subscribed 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:17.240 to ShortCircuit