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these I was expecting we've got the OnePlus 12 and 12r with OnePlus proudly

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displaying their never settle slogan and

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talking a lot about a return to their Flagship killer routs what I wasn't

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expecting is this a 50 wat wireless

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charger this thing will charge wirelessly faster than most phones

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charge over a wire even many flagships

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like oh I don't know the iPhone 15 and the Samsung s24 Ultra we're going to get

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to that in a minute let's start with the OnePlus 12 they have absolutely packed

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this thing with kind of jaw-dropping

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claims oh wow is that ever gorgeous jeez

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Oppo has always pushed the envelope when it comes to the design of their backs

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sorry they have packed this thing with features with everything from 80 W wired

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charging with their super vuk technology which no way they actually include a

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capable charger in the Box what an idea to 50 W wireless charging to a claimed

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Peak brightness of 4,500 nits on their OLED display now we

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weren't able to measure that outside of the developer menu where they have a

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peak brightness test and then you can shine a bright flashlight into the

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ambient light sensor in order to get it to hit that number OnePlus also claimed

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20 hours of YouTube playback which this phone completely annihilated we saw

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almost 28 hours of playback in YouTube

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at 200 nits display brightness wow on

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the outside of the phone we've got The Usual Suspects with our lock button volume rocker does this thing have an IR

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emitter super cool Amplified earpiece speaker and bottom speaker Sim slot and

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USBC charging port along with oneplus's

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trademark notification slider you got to

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love to see it and on the inside it's got the latest Snapdragon 8 gen 3

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processor with oneplus's biggest vapor chamber cooler to date they're saying

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it's about 14 Square in in area which is

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pretty wild when you consider the overall size of the device OnePlus says

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this contributes to both the cooling of the screen and cooling of the S so but

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we'll get to this in a little bit more detail later we found that having a

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bigger Vapor chamber doesn't necessarily help you avoid thermal throttling if you

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don't add any kind of active cooling to the outside of the device the cameras

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are another big area of focus for OnePlus that is a sizable camera bump

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but far from the deepest one that I've seen lately it's pretty manageable and

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we're looking at a 50 megap main shooter with a 64 megapixel Periscope telephoto

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and a 48 megapix ultrawide that is a

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really fast lens on the main shooter too f1.6 with Optical image stabilization

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actually have pretty high expectations for this the one area where OnePlus has

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really struggled for me in the past has been video but in terms of photo like

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man that's responsive that's a ton of dynamic range like I really just don't

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don't really know what I would complain about stutter though as I'm panning

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around yeah it's no iPhone is it it's not bad but it's no iPhone there's one

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thing that you got to give to Apple God does video ever look good on the iPhone

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excuse me excuse me on

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iPhone inside the phone we've got Wi-Fi 7 Bluetooth 5.4 12 or 16 gigs of RAM

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with 256 or 512 gigs of storage and

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Corning victus 2 glass with an aluminum frame enough about the 12 because the 12

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okay Flagship killer I guess now that flagships are

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$1,200 the 12r is the one that I think

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is going to be in a more interesting price band for many of our viewers today

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it's got a lot of the same goodness as the 12 it's got that same 4500 nit Peak

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brightness on its also ltpo 120 HZ

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AMOLED display for that oh so butter smoothness it's got the same number of

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cameras but they have been downgraded a touch it's got the same support for 80 w

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super vuk charging including an included charging brick which is really nice to

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see but it's got a bit of a smaller screen and some other unexpected

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exclusions no wireless charging although that does come with a benefit you

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actually get a 100 mamp larger battery

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in the 12r and that did result in real world G GES in battery life this thing

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saw almost 30 hours of battery life in

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our YouTube playback test that is flipping impressive but the bigger one

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is that it uses the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 it is using a last generation chipset

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however as we saw in our performance testing this might not be as big of a

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deal to you as you might think as it turns out in our Benchmark Suite which

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admittedly at this point is going to need some upgrading the real world

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differ difference in performance is almost negligible because we are more

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often capped by the frame rate limiter of the applications that we are running

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than by the performance of the S so another thing that we noticed when we

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were doing our performance testing was that in our stress test the 12 actually

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thermal throttled so much that even though it scores much higher in

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synthetic benchmarks like 3D Mark when you run them over and over and over

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again it throttles down to Performance that is only about 10% High so if you're

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a hardcore mobile gamer and you're going to be playing for hours at a time the

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real world difference in performance might not be that much now some of that

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can be accounted for by the slightly higher resolution of the OnePlus 12's

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screen but not all of it it does have the same victus two glass covering but

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what it doesn't have is the same storage options it's only available with 128 or

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256 gigs of storage I also haven't really tried the camera yet so here's

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what we're going to do I'm going to take some pictures with this after I tell you

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about our sponsor oh God it's dbrand they are supporting the OnePlus

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12 show images on screen apparently

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that's all dbrand wants me to say about their OnePlus 12 skins because they

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instead wanted to use this ad spot to

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make me read a Reddit thread I assume that's why you're standing here with a

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computer oh this I've seen the Reddit

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thread let's get D Brand's attention to

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sponsor lonus to dye his hair blonde again upside down smiley face it should

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be for charity like sponsoring a computer Club you now you've put me in a

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position where if I say no I'm basically

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saying no to Children you know what you did I should be using this as an

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opportunity see look that is the face of

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a that's the mug of a man who knows what he did I guess let dbrand know in the

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comments if you'd like me to disappoint children or if you'd like me to raise

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some money money for children uh I can hardly tell this these cameras are not

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as good it looks like I've got something on the lens but I did

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not Stills are all right though yeah

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Stills are all right that video quality though and I haven't even tried the

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ultra wide yet it's only 8 megapixels

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that's one of the biggest downgrades over the OnePlus 11 because otherwise on

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paper the 12r looks like an amazing

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Choice compared to the 11 they've got very similar specs other than we get

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upgraded glass a bigger battery faster charging oh there is one small little

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bug bear OnePlus originally said that the 12r had ufs 4.0 support for its

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storage but it's actually 3.1 so that's a downgrade over a OnePlus 11 if you

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could get a deal on one of those but other than that man I think the cameras

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are the biggest deal and I don't know about you guys but the only time I ever

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use my ultrawide camera is when I want to take a picture of a room and like put

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markup on it like honestly that's the only thing I think I've ever used it for

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is like uh yeah um here's a picture of

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this room we're going to Ikea I'm going to write some measurements and like

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where those spots are so that I can remember what my room looks like when

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I'm walking around in that Labyrinthian store like it feels like you're in there

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for so long you don't even know what year it is or where you live anymore

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both phones are only rated for ip65

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water resistance which is a little on the weaker side for a modern device but

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they ' got something water related that is pretty darn cool OnePlus has

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something that they're calling Aqua touch I'm sorry what is this hypertouch

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algorithm makes it like work better when the screen is wet I've been provided

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with a spritzer bottle and I guess I'll attempt to type a

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message I mean that seems like pretty good right let's let's go for accuracy

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okay give me a 100 character sentence go

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subscribe to Short

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oops that was me circuit that is pretty darn good it's

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bang on I like you uh here we go I mean what

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could go wrong um oh boy well that's something I

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can't even get I can't even get a text box hello I am

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typing oh and we lost it yeah that's pretty

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much the experience I whenever my hands are wet in the tub we're down to

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34% which means it's time to try 50 W

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wireless charging and what I'm really interested in is what's shaken with our

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charger here we're at 30 Watts from the wall there will be quite a bit of

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inefficiency going from AC to DC then from DC to um magnetic induction

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charging is that it it's going down air V charging buddy

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this isn't the only thing we weren't able to see working the way OnePlus said

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their frame interpolation technology we just couldn't get it working and they're

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on Chinese New Year right now so they were like oh we can't really look into this so your mileage may vary on that as

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well but 27 Watts from the wall that means realistically we're probably only

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getting about 20 watts here it's possible that it'll only do that kind of

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speed from 0% but we're at 35 I think

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it's a pretty reasonable expectation that it would charge pretty fast when

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it's at 35% oh there's one more thing we

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haven't checked out the speaker ERS yet oh my God

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Google this was such a mistake what is

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any of this remember when the mail icon was red so you could actually tell what

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the hell it was and when Maps was a map sorry sorry sorry this is this is

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not oneplus's fault 100% on Google a little

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bright but a big part of the problem is

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how loud I have it I wouldn't normally need this at 100%

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it's really good yeah it's really clean

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how about the 12r Amplified earpiece speaker nice to see that on a budget

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phone this is still an expensive phone but it's a little thing that is often

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cheaped out

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on if there's a downgrade here it's not going to affect you too much I'd say

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they're not quite as bright but they're still really loud and clear enough that

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you're going to be able to enjoy pretty much anything you would want to enjoy on

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your phone speakers and otherwise you're just going to want to get out your your

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earphones or whatever the case may be now it's time for the hard question

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which one would I choose $300 less but that does come with a

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capacity downgrade here not to mention of course the spec downgrade or $300

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more but of course with more capacity more performance and bursty loads in

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particular I think this just comes down to your budget and what kind of deal

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you're going to get from your carrier as someone who takes a lot of pict pictures of my kids I am really not liking not

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having a decent camera on my phone right now and I'd say that that could be

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something that could push me over the edge to the 12 but I want to hear from you guys in the comments 12 or 12 r or

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something else entirely whatever it is I don't care as long as you're subscribed

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