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what that big thing you don't need that

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you can fit the full power of AMD's ryzen platform in the palm of your hand

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oh what you want more GPU well guess what she goes in boom right like that

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all the GPU you could need no compromises no strings attached zero

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problem wait

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there are compromises oh man well that sounds like a big problem for a little

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it's been about a year and a half since we last covered minis forum and while we

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were on break they have received some pretty bad press

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both gamers nexus and der bauer found them guilty

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of both false advertising and some pretty embarrassing product design

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mistakes around liquid metal now from our perspective both of those seemed

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more like gross incompetence than malice

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so we're hopeful that minnie's forum has cleaned up their act because this thing

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looks pretty freaking exciting this

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puppy the elite mini b550 features a desktop

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green CPU in a full fat am4 socket

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meaning you can byo CPU party at mini's

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forum the i o is good but not groundbreaking

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you got two and a half gig lan dual HDMI that's nice to have but if we flip over

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to the bottom we've got these external

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power connectors that's a four pin and that's some kind

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of weird tendon thing what the devil is that for then over on this side we've

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got a little window for the discreet

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graphics card interface hold on just a gosh darn minute x

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discrete graphics card interface

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no way it's a full PCIe 16x

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nail interface this is a lot of expandability for a

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system like this two and a half inch drive dual 80 millimeter m.2s there's

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your wi-fi card and then this

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tray's interesting oh

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wow basically your system goes

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here and you put a discreet graphics card on

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it you've got dual ddr4 sodium slots these

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are populated by kingston modules did we provide the modules or did it ship as a

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ship with this but you're also still connected by a cable yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's okay don't worry about

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this little delicate cable then we've got a large more almost like a GPU style

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cooler on it really flat really broad with what appears to be an 80 millimeter

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fan maze form markets the system as user upgradable and while i do have my

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concerns about the ease of that upgrade especially in light of these extremely

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difficult to connect uh wi-fi antenna cables the fact that it does have a

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completely standard am4 socket means that yes technically you can do that

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well i shouldn't say completely standard we can already see having removed the

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two and a half inch drive bracket that the back plate for the CPU is

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not an am4 standard back plate okay so it's

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like a totally normal am4 socket you just don't

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have any of the additional like mounting

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points around it or anything it comes with a 5700 g

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oh that makes a ton of sense got that on board graphics in case you don't hook up

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a discrete GPU but still great performance that's an

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eight core and that's our thermal paste application because we had to

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troubleshoot this computer it was crashing all the time switched out every

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single part and ended up being the CPU oh like it was a bad one the one that

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they shipped us ended up being the problem wow we very rarely see it i know bad CPU

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the cheapest configuration is bare bones which is no CPU no RAM no SSD that comes

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in at 400 400 for a motherboard cooler power

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supply and you also get the external yep

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that's actually not that stupid no not but not at all and the full spec is 900

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okay i'd probably build it myself then

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i can see where this bracket goes now that's pretty obvious

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um yeah yeah

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now let's show you guys the party trick

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just like that and that PCIe slot the mail slot

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essentially is plugged into an extender now that turns it into a female slot

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meaning that you can either run the on-board GPU or

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put a full fat discrete GPU on this thing with

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functionally no size limitations i mean is this the

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biggest card you got uh we have a bigger one wait is this that dead one though it

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is a dummy one oh for well

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if you have a triple slot card and a large shroud on it it may actually

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interfere with this little piece of the bracket here that seems like something

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they could have solved pretty easily by having it not do that we could fix it

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with a dremel but we're not gonna bother the confusing part right now though is

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how does power work for all this clearly we've got our wall brick that plugs into

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there you go the pc itself there are these

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kind of internal power supply looking cables here oh my goodness what the

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devil is this you do need this these are extension cables of which we do not know

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the pin layout they're mail to mail

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and they go straight ahead they intend for you to use these with your

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psu don't do that yeah

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because if your pin out is not the same you will fry your system luckily they've

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informed us that they are not actually including these in the final release

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which is good it's a very good way to protect consumers just like how our hats

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are a good way to protect your skin from the sun lttstore.com get a dad hat 24 pin

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connector in here then boom just like that goes to the modular

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interface on our sfx power supply here

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this is a pretty cool little unit from silverstone 80 plus platinum 750 watt

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you absolutely do not have to use a fancy one like this just any random

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desktop atx power supply would work what is that power what is that 12 volt

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for that'll be for your CPU i think well no because your CPU has to be able to be

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powered by the brick no you don't power you do not have the brick plugged in at the same time it's all going to do this

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psu well it's not the kind of thing apple would make

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apparently a bracket for the power supply is coming yeah there's no details

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on their website about which power supply will be supported by the bracket

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i mean for now this is pretty

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it's something you ready for the big moment i hope you plugged it in all

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you said there was some uh troubleshooting uh well this it worked

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before hey it's working classic have you tried

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unplugging it and plugging it back in she's booted it's working

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this really is not that small i actually measured it all out yeah to because i

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was like if you put this the power supply right here yeah it's just a

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sandwich form factor sfx case like the ghost

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s1 it's actually exactly that sandwich

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layout that is

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whoops man i gotta say you can't fault

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the performance at 4k ultra nightmare we

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are sitting at anywhere from 150 to just shy of 200 frames per second in doom

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eternal i mean that's what you'd expect for a 6800 xt hooked up via PCIe 16x

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interface to a ryzen 8 core CPU i mean

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that's the point of this thing right it's small

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sort of and performs fastly

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i guess the other point is that it's also a it's a fully enclosed mini

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c computer how's the performance of the system without the rigmarole well by

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itself it's pretty good um the 5700g is

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a 65w CPU so it's not super hard to keep cool but this thing does it really

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silently um even trying to put it through a thermal torture test

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it only ever got to about like 67 degrees on the GPU and 72 degrees on the

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CPU even now the vast majority of the noise is actually from the GPU yeah and

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if you wanted to you could even run it with pbo position boost overdrive that

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is really pushing against the 120 watt power supply though

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yeah i don't know if i'd recommend it i probably wouldn't recommend it i even got it to run a 1050 ti also pushing up

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against the power limits wait without external power without external power

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yeah i wouldn't recommend that either but you can the downside is that

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there's no room to grow with a 5800 x3d

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it handled it but you never got full boost

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clocks right so what upgradeability is there really it's

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basically nothing i'm having a hard time trying to figure out who this is for i can afford a GPU i

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care about gaming performance or why would i buy this

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but i don't always want to take my GPU with me i want to be able to pull my CPU

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storage RAM and motherboard off

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go get a brick power brick to take with me

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and then i'm going to pack them together i'm going to go but i don't need my GPU

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i feel like what they could have done is if they made it so that this whole

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platform has like extensions for all of your power you plug this little platform

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through here and then you can just slot this in all of the plugs are on the same

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side you slot it in you take it out power's delivered on the same side your

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PCIe lanes on the same side then it's literally like you walk you go oh i need

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to get going somewhere yoink why are you taking this with you i don't know maybe

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a bike to work and like this is a little bit too much

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you take this to work with you like maybe you're in a co-working space and

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you have like important documents but you also have the same system like if

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you're a contractor maybe you want the small computer to take somewhere get a laptop yeah i know but

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itx builds they make kind of a bit more sense than this especially when you

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factor in how quick it would be to just unplug the GPU from it and take that

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with you on the go compared to all these cables you gotta fight with this thing