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it's been about a year and a half since we last covered minis forum and while we
were on break they have received some pretty bad press
both gamers nexus and der bauer found them guilty
of both false advertising and some pretty embarrassing product design
mistakes around liquid metal now from our perspective both of those seemed
more like gross incompetence than malice
so we're hopeful that minnie's forum has cleaned up their act because this thing
looks pretty freaking exciting this
puppy the elite mini b550 features a desktop
green CPU in a full fat am4 socket
meaning you can byo CPU party at mini's
forum the i o is good but not groundbreaking
you got two and a half gig lan dual HDMI that's nice to have but if we flip over
to the bottom we've got these external
power connectors that's a four pin and that's some kind
of weird tendon thing what the devil is that for then over on this side we've
got a little window for the discreet
graphics card interface hold on just a gosh darn minute x
discrete graphics card interface
no way it's a full PCIe 16x
nail interface this is a lot of expandability for a
system like this two and a half inch drive dual 80 millimeter m.2s there's
your wi-fi card and then this
tray's interesting oh
wow basically your system goes
here and you put a discreet graphics card on
it you've got dual ddr4 sodium slots these
are populated by kingston modules did we provide the modules or did it ship as a
ship with this but you're also still connected by a cable yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's okay don't worry about
this little delicate cable then we've got a large more almost like a GPU style
cooler on it really flat really broad with what appears to be an 80 millimeter
fan maze form markets the system as user upgradable and while i do have my
concerns about the ease of that upgrade especially in light of these extremely
difficult to connect uh wi-fi antenna cables the fact that it does have a
completely standard am4 socket means that yes technically you can do that
well i shouldn't say completely standard we can already see having removed the
two and a half inch drive bracket that the back plate for the CPU is
not an am4 standard back plate okay so it's
like a totally normal am4 socket you just don't
have any of the additional like mounting
points around it or anything it comes with a 5700 g
oh that makes a ton of sense got that on board graphics in case you don't hook up
a discrete GPU but still great performance that's an
eight core and that's our thermal paste application because we had to
troubleshoot this computer it was crashing all the time switched out every
single part and ended up being the CPU oh like it was a bad one the one that
they shipped us ended up being the problem wow we very rarely see it i know bad CPU
the cheapest configuration is bare bones which is no CPU no RAM no SSD that comes
in at 400 400 for a motherboard cooler power
supply and you also get the external yep
that's actually not that stupid no not but not at all and the full spec is 900
okay i'd probably build it myself then
i can see where this bracket goes now that's pretty obvious
um yeah yeah
now let's show you guys the party trick
just like that and that PCIe slot the mail slot
essentially is plugged into an extender now that turns it into a female slot
meaning that you can either run the on-board GPU or
put a full fat discrete GPU on this thing with
functionally no size limitations i mean is this the
biggest card you got uh we have a bigger one wait is this that dead one though it
is a dummy one oh for well
if you have a triple slot card and a large shroud on it it may actually
interfere with this little piece of the bracket here that seems like something
they could have solved pretty easily by having it not do that we could fix it
with a dremel but we're not gonna bother the confusing part right now though is
how does power work for all this clearly we've got our wall brick that plugs into
there you go the pc itself there are these
kind of internal power supply looking cables here oh my goodness what the
devil is this you do need this these are extension cables of which we do not know
the pin layout they're mail to mail
and they go straight ahead they intend for you to use these with your
psu don't do that yeah
because if your pin out is not the same you will fry your system luckily they've
informed us that they are not actually including these in the final release
which is good it's a very good way to protect consumers just like how our hats
are a good way to protect your skin from the sun lttstore.com get a dad hat 24 pin
connector in here then boom just like that goes to the modular
interface on our sfx power supply here
this is a pretty cool little unit from silverstone 80 plus platinum 750 watt
you absolutely do not have to use a fancy one like this just any random
desktop atx power supply would work what is that power what is that 12 volt
for that'll be for your CPU i think well no because your CPU has to be able to be
powered by the brick no you don't power you do not have the brick plugged in at the same time it's all going to do this
psu well it's not the kind of thing apple would make
apparently a bracket for the power supply is coming yeah there's no details
on their website about which power supply will be supported by the bracket
i mean for now this is pretty
it's something you ready for the big moment i hope you plugged it in all
right
you said there was some uh troubleshooting uh well this it worked
before hey it's working classic have you tried
unplugging it and plugging it back in she's booted it's working
this really is not that small i actually measured it all out yeah to because i
was like if you put this the power supply right here yeah it's just a
sandwich form factor sfx case like the ghost
s1 it's actually exactly that sandwich
layout that is
whoops man i gotta say you can't fault
the performance at 4k ultra nightmare we
are sitting at anywhere from 150 to just shy of 200 frames per second in doom
eternal i mean that's what you'd expect for a 6800 xt hooked up via PCIe 16x
interface to a ryzen 8 core CPU i mean
that's the point of this thing right it's small
sort of and performs fastly
i guess the other point is that it's also a it's a fully enclosed mini
c computer how's the performance of the system without the rigmarole well by
itself it's pretty good um the 5700g is
a 65w CPU so it's not super hard to keep cool but this thing does it really
silently um even trying to put it through a thermal torture test
it only ever got to about like 67 degrees on the GPU and 72 degrees on the
CPU even now the vast majority of the noise is actually from the GPU yeah and
if you wanted to you could even run it with pbo position boost overdrive that
is really pushing against the 120 watt power supply though
yeah i don't know if i'd recommend it i probably wouldn't recommend it i even got it to run a 1050 ti also pushing up
against the power limits wait without external power without external power
yeah i wouldn't recommend that either but you can the downside is that
there's no room to grow with a 5800 x3d
it handled it but you never got full boost
clocks right so what upgradeability is there really it's
basically nothing i'm having a hard time trying to figure out who this is for i can afford a GPU i
care about gaming performance or why would i buy this
but i don't always want to take my GPU with me i want to be able to pull my CPU
storage RAM and motherboard off
go get a brick power brick to take with me
and then i'm going to pack them together i'm going to go but i don't need my GPU
i feel like what they could have done is if they made it so that this whole
platform has like extensions for all of your power you plug this little platform
through here and then you can just slot this in all of the plugs are on the same
side you slot it in you take it out power's delivered on the same side your
PCIe lanes on the same side then it's literally like you walk you go oh i need
to get going somewhere yoink why are you taking this with you i don't know maybe
a bike to work and like this is a little bit too much
you take this to work with you like maybe you're in a co-working space and
you have like important documents but you also have the same system like if
you're a contractor maybe you want the small computer to take somewhere get a laptop yeah i know but
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itx builds they make kind of a bit more sense than this especially when you
factor in how quick it would be to just unplug the GPU from it and take that
with you on the go compared to all these cables you gotta fight with this thing