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HELLO WORLD AND WELCOME TO THE WAN Show.

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HAPPY FRIDAY EVERYBODY. We've got a great show lined up for you. It is the

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first day of the second month of Good

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News Wow. That's right. The ratio of

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good news to bad news has to be I forget what we settled on, but it's pretty much

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mostly good news this week. Starting with something that is like a blast from

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my childhood past. The one and only Zs

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Knight, original developer of Z SNES,

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is back. Zess is back. Completely

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rewritten from scratch. I actually haven't tried it yet, but I intend to

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this weekend. I'm super excited to talk about that. Also, we've got to be

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talking about Oh, no. I don't want to talk about that.

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Oh, this one's good. Microsoft has

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committed in something that they are codenaming K2 seemingly as an

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acknowledgement of the mountain they have to climb a concerted effort to fix

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Windows. Very excited to talk about that. What else we got?

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>> Uh I took mine Toyota. >> You know I try baby.

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>> Toyota did what people have thought about for a really long time which is they took a chair from a car and they

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put it on a stand with some wheels on it and they called it a computer chair.

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Toyota's limited edition $3,500 Crown gaming chair has heating, cooling, and

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USBC seat seat belt buckle. I didn't

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even know that part. It's so expensive.

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Ah, >> but cheaper than a real Toyota. >> That's true. Maybe not much more than a

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used one. Um, and I don't know. We've

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got stuff. There's other stuff. We sponsored a drift car.

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>> Really? You went with that? >> I don't know. Sure.

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I saw a better one right under it.

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It is what it is.

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The show IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY VESSIE, ODO, SQUARESPACE, and Ninja 1, along

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with our rap partner, Dbrand, and our laptop partner, Razer, and our chair

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partner, also Razer. >> If you were a famous musician, what

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genre would you >> want to be in? >> What's the most annoying genre?

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>> No, I think it's called noise. >> Is it? >> No, I think it's called noise.

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>> Is that a thing, >> Dan? Tell me something. What What do you

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think? >> I would defin knows way infinitely more about this than either of us.

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>> I'm going with Sure. >> I would definitely be cringey cringey.

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>> You agree? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. >> I'd be cringey pop style music for like

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moms at this point. I think I think that would be that would be my best shot.

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>> I don't know. Taylor Swift. Um,

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if I could if I had half the talent that Taylor Swift has in one thigh, then I

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could hope to be, you know, more like Taylor Swift. But no, no, I'm afraid I

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might have thighs, but they're not talented. Uh, let's jump right in.

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>> Hold on one second. Noise music, or simply noise, is a subgenre of

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experimental music that is characterized by its use of unwanted noise as a

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primary musical element.

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So, that's that's I think that's probably the most annoying one.

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It's just terrible. Often featuring little or no melody, rhythm, or harmony.

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>> That just sounds like someone was taking the piss. >> It's just terrible.

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>> And then it just accidentally a whole genre.

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>> All right. You're No, no, we're not. We're not.

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>> It's important that everyone knows about noise. Okay. Sorry. Yeah.

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>> Microsoft has created an internal initiative called K2 to fix Windows 11.

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Apparently, it's been going on for a while, though. >> They have finally admitted to themselves

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that Windows 11 is a giant boatload of

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suck. And according to sources inside Microsoft is using the K2 initiative to

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fix the operating system's biggest pain points and win, pun intended, back user

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trust. The company is also reportedly

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intentionally pivoting away from shipping new features as fast as

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possible and refocusing on quality. You

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know, it's kind of amazing

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how every time a company is like having

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big big problems, the idea is, hey,

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why don't we stop intentionally sucking?

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Actually, I wish that was often the solution. I I went on a rant about this

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recently, but not on camera. So, here you go. Ready for it? Here comes the Tim

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Horton's WAN Show rant. >> Oh, hell yeah. This made me so angry. I

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was talking to an American or something and they were basically like, "Well,

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yeah." Yeah, right. You know, you know, right? Like, bud, like Tim Hortons, right? Y'all Canadians, y'all like the

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Tim Hortons, right, Bud? Instantly triggered. >> And and I was basically like

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>> instantly triggered. Okay, let me

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clarify because yes, I do like Tim

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Hortons, but there's a bit of a temporal issue with that statement because while

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it was once true for me and every proud

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Canadian, it is no longer true. Tim Hortons is now owned by restaurant

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brands, which seriously, did they go to

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that to the LTT Store of naming?

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We're going to have a company that owns restaurant. What should we call it?

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Let's call it restaurant brands.

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That aside, okay, restaurant brands is owned by like Black Rockck and some

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Brazilian conglomerate, like a bunch of private equity. There is nothing

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Canadian about Tim Hortons anymore. Oh yeah. >> And after all of that happened, Tim

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Hortons went, at least here on the West Coast, I've been told that on the east

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on the eastern side, some of them do still bake the donuts fresh in store. So

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really here on the West Coast, they went from baking the donuts fresh in store

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every day. Their slogan used to be always fresh. Always Tim Hortons. That

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was their slogan. Now they're still always Tim Hortons, but they're a gross,

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messed up, not fresh version of it. Like you you could get a brand new like the

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freshest doughnut in Tim Hortons. It'll taste like it's 3 days old these days.

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It It's so It's so bad. It's It's

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absolutely disgusting. Uh how did I get on the subject of Tim Hortons?

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>> I literally to be honest. Oh, right.

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When companies start sucking >> Right. Okay. So, this was a while back.

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into my news feed that Tim Hortons was experiencing less than stellar growth

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and customer engagement. And on a shareholder call, okay, on a shareholder

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call, they're literally acknowledging soft sales and they go,

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>> "Yeah, so here's our plan. We're gonna

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really like double down on the Canadana

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in our marketing and like you know little kids skating on outdoor hockey

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rinks and maple leaves and beavers and all those very Canadian things in order

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to connect more to our Canadian cere's an idea. Why don't you makeing edible

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food as a way to connect with your Canadian customers? I used to when I

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would travel abroad, uh, so when I'm at airports basically, um, I I had a

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routine where every single time I would go to Tim Hortons. So like the last

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thing I did in Canada was like one of the most Canadian things you could do, which is go to Tim Hortons.

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>> Go to Tim Hortons, get some chili. >> Haven't done it. Yep. >> Get a sandwich, get get a donut.

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>> They all suck now. >> Haven't done it in years. >> They even up the chili. How do

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you up chili? It's literally just like meat and tomato paste and beans and then

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you just put it over heat. Okay. The chili is fine. But the problem is the

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bun sucks. >> Oh, the chili has gotten worse as well. >> Has it really? Okay. I think so.

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>> I haven't had it in a while. >> It feels like it. I might just be like, >> "Dude,

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>> annoyed. >> The bun tastes >> I also use the bun as a spoon."

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>> Well, yeah. That's the whole point. >> So, the bun being way worse may have

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impacted my opinion of the chili. >> Okay. Because like I used to go and get

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Tim Horton's chili for my lunch. Like seriously, this is embarrassing, but

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like >> two to three times a week when I was working at NCX, I'd get my chili, I'd

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get my bun, I'd get usually when they had them, I'd get the blueberry fritter.

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Oh, the blueberry fritter. The only problem with the blueberry fritter was

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how often they ended up undercooking them, which looking back on it is maybe why they stopped baking them in store.

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The point is that doesn't matter. I would get my blueberry fritter, I'd get

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my lemon iced tea, and that was it. The lunch of champions. That lunch took OCZ

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as a product line from like $3,000 a

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month to $300,000 a month. Okay, that's what Tim Horton's

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I wouldn't feed my dog that bun.

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I don't even have a dog

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anyway. So yeah, I wish that every company came up with the idea of how

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about making the product suck less, but restaurant brands couldn't do it.

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important to Canada's national identity that that sale should have been blocked.

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>> I I actually strongly agree. It like

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actually was like our prime minister

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would talk about it globally. Like this was this was it was not a

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>> this was not just some random like restaurant. Yeah. >> Like like going to Tim Hortons in the

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morning for breakfast is like was >> might as well be the canteen of Canada.

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Like it's it's just Yeah. >> And it's ruined now. >> Like I'm trying to think of like what

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would be an like >> I don't know of a single example. It would be like Ford like not be it would

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be like Ford selling to like >> Volkswagen company.

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watching this right now if like Ford did not was not American.

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>> I don't think Ford is as tied into the American ID as as Tim Bordon was in

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Canadian. >> Depends you know like like built Ford tough like dude is there a country on

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earth that loves the F-150 the way that America does? Like let's let's be real

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here. But still, let's be real here. I still think

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>> I still think it's more >> like what would be what would be like a

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what would be like a like a like a German equivalent? Like what would what

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would be so so offensive

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to like uh guys hit me hit me with it.

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You know what? No, we can move on. We can move on. Okay, so coming back to

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Windows on the performance side, the start menu is being completely rewritten

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in Microsoft's own WinUI3 framework, which is supposed to make it 60% faster

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and more responsive. That is such a See, that's such a baffling one to me is like

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when I open the start, what are you even doing?

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Like there's there's a there's there's things that I do on computers that just

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completely bewilder me how they can take as long as they do. Uh, perfect example

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of this. We were running a benchmark on set yesterday. We were uh performance

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testing. Oh, we ran SLI. >> We we grabbed some 3090 Ti, okay,

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that would still run. It's not really SLI. It's more of like the direct X12

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multiGPU thing, but hey, we we ran them

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and in the best case scenario, it was actually pretty competitive with a 5090

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in like 3D Mark. It was pretty pretty crazy. Anyway, the point is when we were

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running 3D Mark, I was just like I was

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losing my mind because it's just always bothered me. You know how it does that

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thing where it's like um detecting system configuration

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and it takes like a minute

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to do what? >> Yeah. Like how long does Steam hardware survey take?

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>> How how long does it take to get a string of characters for for the

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identifier of a piece of hard? Like we we run at billions of operations per

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second on modern computing devices. You've got to be kidding me. Or like

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when a Wi-Fi access point takes like forever to authenticate the password.

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It's like it's literally eight bits.

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>> I know it isn't. >> Okay. >> I know it isn't.

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>> But but it's it seems so trivial. And in

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the same way the start menu is like what are you even actually doing? Like all of

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this has got to be pre-cached. What are you doing? You're You're not doing

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anything. Why Why is there like a delay?

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difference between like what is it? Win UI or whatever um and React Native. As

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far as my understanding goes, React Native was calling Win UI. So there the

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the the so the the start menu right now is a React Native app as far as my

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understanding goes. Um, and if they're just removing that layer and stepping

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down one and going to win UUI. I I don't know how this stack works. I read

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quickly that apparently at least sometimes it is calling Win UI. So, I'm

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assuming they're just stepping down a layer. Like maybe you gain a bunch of performance there. The fact that any

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part of Windows native UI is React

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Native is wild to me. Oh, this is great.

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Greak has another good one. I hate it when Windows takes forever to tell me my

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password's wrong. I accidentally pressed enter instead of, you know, enter

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anything like just immediately when you

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when you do it like six or seven times or whatever. That could be that can be a

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security feature where it's like delaying you being able to put it in again. But when it just like takes a

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while, it's dude, it's like a handful of characters. It either the hash matches

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or it doesn't for crying out loud. >> Anyway, Microsoft is also reportedly

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removing ads from its start menu. Again,

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like a a bold move. Bold move. This is like restaurant sales falling. They come

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up with the bold idea of making food fresh. Um, and then for gaming,

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Microsoft is treating. This is crazy.

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This is probably the best marketing for

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Steam OS >> that Valve could have never afforded

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with all their billions and billions of dollars of I'm Gabe Newell. Rather than

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buying a yacht, I will literally buy the company that makes the yachts. all of

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the money that they have could never have purchased. Microsoft is treating

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Valve's Steam OS as a performance benchmark.

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They want Windows gaming performance to

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be comparable to Steam OS on identical hardware, which they say is critical

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because the next Xbox is reportedly going to run Windows 11.

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Oh man, they were doing really good up until >> Is this is this Have they hard confirmed

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that there was going to be another Xbox? >> Yeah, Project Scorpio I think it's

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called like the new CEO Helix.

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Helio something. Helix. Helix. Thank you.

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Lightning X in chat. Um File Explorer is

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also getting major performance fixes with a third party app called File Pilot

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being used as the performance benchmark they're shooting for. This is like

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embarrassing. Who makes File Pilot? Like, no offense. No offense. You're

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probably >> No, it's it's I mean, it's the opposite. It's a huge brag if you're File

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Pilot. That's amazing. >> But I don't even know who you are. And

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the fact that Microsoft, a multi-trillion dollar company, is

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looking at this going, "Yeah, these guys

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are crushing us. We need to do we need

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to do better." Okay. Who are you? Manifesto fast,

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>> dude. Search for system commands. This is actually sick.

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>> Hold on. My god. >> Is file pilot dope? >> File pilot is one guy,

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>> dude. >> Catholic Croatian husband, father of

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five. One extremely busy guy.

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>> Just donking on Windows. Look at that. Look at this. >> That's awesome.

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>> Hey, what am I looking at here? Oh, this is File Pilot. >> Yeah, he's selected a bunch of things

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and select a system he can search. >> Yeah, >> I never even like thought about that.

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That's awesome. Finally, Windows Update is being

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reworked, too, with the goal of making Windows 11 reliable enough that you only

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>> Dude, File Pilot's cool. You might if we're doing that thing, you should maybe

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include >> Microsoft Microsoft setting the bar. Okay, we want to We want to beat the

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performance of an operating system that the games literally don't even run

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natively on. We want to beat this one

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dude in Explorer, like the most critical

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thing in Windows that literally is like Windows 3.1. Okay. And we want to only

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have to restart your computer once a month. They put the bar

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here. Come on, you guys.

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>> Also, the taskbar is getting back the ability to put the bar somewhere.

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>> Moved and resized. K2 is reportedly not

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going to be a single release, but an ongoing initiative that started in the

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second half of 2025 with Moe's changes rolling out through the end of 2026 and

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into 2027

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discussion question. And for this, I

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need you to put away the chat, close your eyes,

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and search deep inside your feelings. Search your feelings, Luke.

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>> Do you think Windows can win back its

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users? And you're searching your feelings because, you know, you at least

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used to be a Windows user. >> Or is it too little too late? Search

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your feelings, Luke.

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>> Uh, I mean, I think I think so. And the

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reason why I think so is I think most of them haven't left yet.

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action of the rage that the community

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has had. I think some people have left.

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I've left. I'm not stopping using Linux

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when the Linux challenge is over. There's a spoiler. Um I'm going to

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continue using it. Um but it isn't it

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isn't completely too late. the the approach that I'm taking right now is

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what is the most appropriate tool for me to use to have the least frustration,

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the the most good time, >> whatever you want to call it. Y

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>> um and be able to operate and get stuff done without significant um like

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>> right now that is almost always pushing me to Linux either mint on my laptop,

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cache on my desktop. Um, I do

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plan on ending with a dual boot setup on my desktop, but it's honestly completely

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unnecessary on my laptop, and I will be continuing to run Mint. If this bar

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shifts and it makes more sense for me to use Windows,

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>> Objective. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And like I I I whipped I I went over to

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my Windows drive. Uh cuz I still have my Windows drive in my desktop. It's just

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been sitting there untouched for like 2 months. I jumped over to my Windows

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drive just to like Okay. Like is it going to function? I haven't even booted

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into it for two months. I don't know. Like did I corrupt it in that time? Maybe.

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>> I bet I know where this is going. >> I ran Windows update for a while. Got

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annoyed by a few things. booted back into Cashi and was like, "Nice."

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It took, dude, it took and I know I haven't updated in a while. Okay. Okay.

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super long time. Um I It felt so stupid

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that like the control panel seems like it wants to fight me.

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redirect. I guess you can just have one of me open. It's like what are you what

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are you even talking about? Um search was just annoying again. Just like

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everything it was just like it felt gross. So I I went back.

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>> All right let's jump into Windows Insiders. >> Actually sorry there's an interesting

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question from chat at at ZM said have you tried macOS recently? If not would

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you give it a try? I am more open to trying other operating systems now. I

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recently learned Mint and Cashy. >> Do you want to borrow my Neo?

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>> I'm not using it right now. It's on my desk. >> I don't necessarily think so. But what I

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was going to add is that I was using my mom's Neo for a bit.

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>> Mhm. >> And it was totally fine.

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I do find macOS a little weird. >> I don't know if I would fully get used

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to it. I still don't think it's for me really. There's some stuff that I find

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just completely unnecessary and irritating about macOS. The fact that

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you have to click on a window first to

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pops up and you're like about to click something, you can like accidentally

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interact with something that you didn't mean to. And I can see how the macOS

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way kind of prevents that, but also it just

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it just creates a second click like anytime I'm switching between things and

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>> There's a couple Yeah, there's a couple little things like that. There's a couple things that feel a little clunky

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to me just cuz it I don't know. It's just not really my style. Um, I do

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think, however, at this point in time, if there was a killer app on macOS, I

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wouldn't flinch using it. >> Yeah. >> Which I think is not true as of a year

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ago. So, like, if I was an editor and it was like, oh boy, I'm going to have to

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use Final Cut, it's like, okay, I mean, if I have a Mac, yeah, sounds good. More

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Windows news, though. Windows Insiders can now pause updates indefinitely in

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35day increments. Uh, Windows Insiders can uh Oh, and there's no cap on

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renewals. This is a Windows in Oh, for crying out loud. Okay, we need to do a

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thing where the the title and the first line are not the same

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>> cuz just >> Yeah. No, I completely agree also

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indefinitely for 35 days. >> Yeah. So, so for as long as you want,

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you can keep saying 35 days later. >> 35 days later. Um Okay.

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>> You can also restart or shut down without being forced into an update and

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restart. previously got 5 weeks max before Windows would force these

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updates. This is only available in the experimental channel which replaced the

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old dev and canary channels. Microsoft's own description, uh, features here may

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change, get delayed, or not ship at all. So, the people testing this are the ones

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who opted into the most bleeding edge pre-release builds because they want

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updates as early as possible. uh regular Windows users who've been getting forced

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restarted mid meeting for a decade don't have this yet and there's no timeline or

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confirmation for a general rollout. Now,

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our discussion question is, how did it take Microsoft over a decade to let

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people decide when their own computer updates? And my crazy hottake response

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is, I actually don't like this

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crazy >> people should probably update their computers. I uh when I did my first Mac

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OS challenge, so the first time I switched to macOS, I think it was on

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the 5K iMac uh was the first time I like

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used nothing but I uh nothing but macOS for 30 days or 60 days or however long

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it was. The thing that was most life-changing about it for me in a

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positive way was the way that macOS handled updates at that time and it

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still does actually. And that is that it

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would say hey there's an update like a little you know little thing and then

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you'd be like okay and then you would

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come in the next day in the morning and everything would be exactly where you

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left it and your computer would have installed all the updates and then opened everything back up right where

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you left it. Pausing updates is not the solution.

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better handling of saving all of my work, saving my state, and then

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restoring my state and just doing the update when I'm not using my computer

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is, in my opinion, a way more elegant

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solution. Like I I get I get like I get

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agitated when, you know, someone hands me their phone or their computer to use

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and I see that they're running like a year old build of whatever operating

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system they're on. Something I've really started to enjoy is I I actually system

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update way more often on Linux than I did on Windows. But I really like that

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it just updates everything. Like that's awesome. Like I'll get

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Discord updates. I'll get any other software that I have. It'll just update

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my entire system all at once. I'm not individually updating programs.

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>> But are you asking for the I mean the Microsoft Store is a thing that exists

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and Windows can manage your updates for you. But I think most of us

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>> just make it not terrible though. Like I I that but honestly I think that's

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really the solution. Like games for Windows would have been fine if it

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wasn't dog crap. Microsoft Store would

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be totally fine. People like package managers on Linux. They just don't

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>> always uh suck complete butt. And a lot

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of time the Microsoft Yeah. The first one that I had on on Cashy sucked and

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then I I went with KDE and now I actually really like it. Um,

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and and the one that comes packaged with Mint is like fantastic to be honest, but

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it it's it's very up and down. But the Microsoft Store in my opinion is like

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the the the problem. Um, >> yeah. And the fact that Windows Update

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>> Yeah. >> Like >> crazy. Like if the best way to install

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stuff on Windows was Microsoft Store because Microsoft Store wasn't an

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annoying piece of crap and also because that way it would just auto update along

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with Windows update and just made everything really smooth. >> And like why do I have to go digging for

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a driver update? And I know that Microsoft has actually done a lot of

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really good work around like automatic driver management, but the fact that

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some of it is over here and some of it

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is like it'll never update unless I like go and get it and some of it is handled

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by like Armory Crate and some of it is in Windows Update and like the fact that

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it's everywhere is

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it's one of those things where the first

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thing that someone would would tell me from Microsoft or even you know a viewer

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would tell me is well that's not X's fault you know or that's because of you

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know this >> and that might be true of choice

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>> and and you know what those things are super super true

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but you know what as as a user from a user perspective I don't give a flying

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whose fault it is >> yeah it doesn't matter >> it doesn't matter what matters is that

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it's a terrible user experience experience and somebody needs to fix it.

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what I'm talking about like all the time when I talk about how it's actually it's

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not even here right now so I keep gesturing at it but my my laptop when I

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talk about how it's actually easier and like less annoyance and more

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productivity to use it. This is what I'm talking about. I don't have to go around

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and update all these individual apps. I'm not like partway through working on

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something and then I need to open another app to do something and oh my god, now that needs an update, whatever.

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It's great. Every everyone freaks you

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out when you go to any Archbased DRO because they're like, "Oh, it's rolling.

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You're going to update. It's going to break everything." When I go to update on Cashachi, it

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checks Arch news. >> Oh, it and it it'll be like, "Oh, no.

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this one might require manual intervention. He might not want to install this right now. And it's like,

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okay. And I just close it and then I wait until it doesn't. I just do it that

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way. Like it's >> Harry G made a good point. The driver

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nightmare is because of third parties. They don't want to ship their drivers via Windows update because they can't

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bundle their bloatware with it. So then Microsoft should just straight up stop

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Wickle certifying anything that requires bloatware to be shipped with it. Like

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these are things that Microsoft >> flex your muscle, man. does like they're

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they flex their muscle to do the wrong things. Like they're flexing their

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muscle to put stupid Candy Crush in my

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stupid operating system. No, flex your muscle to do things that enhance the

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user experience and make Windows more

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secure and faster and more powerful and

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more usable. Uh, all right. Let's jump into Ooh.

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Okay. This is one of our bad newses for

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this week. Intel has reportedly

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cancelled discrete gaming GPUs in the

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upcoming XC3P Arc Celestial family.

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cancelled their discrete GPUs. So, these are the add-in cards for Celestial long

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ago. That means that the ARK B580, so

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this is their battle mage generation, will remain Intel's latest gaming GPU

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with no clear successor in sight. XC3P

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will show up in data center and workstation products, just not gaming

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cards. The nextG XC4 Druid architecture

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is expected late 2027, but whether it

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gets a gaming GPU, in JK's words, is up

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in the air. Intel has not confirmed or denied any of this. Our discussion

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question here is if Intel quietly walks away from gaming GPUs, what happens to

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GPU pricing? The answer is it goes up.

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>> However, however, >> the answer is nothing. >> However,

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>> I really want to keep the faith. This is something that former Intel CEO Pat

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Gellinger um >> allowed to continue Intel's discrete GPU

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ambitions. And I really hope that Lipboutan uh does not kill. I know that

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there's a lot of like issues with the

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consumer cards that you know like being low margin and uh catering to a a super

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noisy, highmaintenance customer base.

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Let's face it, gamers are not the easiest customers to deal with. But I

436
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,640
really do believe and if there the

437
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:34,799
strongest argument that I can make for this is so does Jensen Hang who is the

438
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:39,440
CEO of from time to time the world's most valuable company. I really do

439
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:47,120
believe that the innovation on the gaming side makes the enterprise and

440
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:49,760
professional sides better and stronger

441
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:55,360
for all the work that they do and also gives you a volume market that you can

442
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:59,600
dump silicon into to help fund all the development that you need to do. like

443
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:04,799
you I don't think it makes sense to build a GPU business that doesn't have a

444
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:07,840
consumer arm if you've all like you've

445
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:10,559
already done so much of the work for

446
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:17,200
Alchemist and Battle Mage to fix the backwards compatibility and to refine

447
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:19,919
the architecture. Um, please, please

448
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:25,840
just give us a bigger desktop version of, you know, what you're already

449
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:31,279
shipping like amazing technology on on like laptop, like

450
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:34,880
please don't let it die. >> And if you have to skip Celestial,

451
00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:41,279
>> fine. >> Don't skip Druid. >> Don't skip Druid.

452
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:45,519
We need more options. And gamers, it's like the Windows thing. Like gamers are

453
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:49,519
they're mad at Microsoft, they're mad at NVIDIA, but you've got to give them a

454
00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:54,159
better option or they're just going to begrudgingly stay there forever. And

455
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:58,240
like, oh man, like Intel continues to put in the work on the software side.

456
00:32:56,399 --> 00:33:01,840
You got to give us hardware to run it on.

457
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:06,000
Let's go. >> Yeah. >> You know. >> Yep.

458
00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:12,240
>> Um, thank you for coming to my TED talk.

459
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:16,159
Uh Dan, what are we supposed to be doing? >> You can keep doing topics or we can do

460
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:20,640
uh the CW announcements. >> Oh, I feel like I should probably talk about the CW announcements. Uh do you

461
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:29,760
want to do you want to fire up the site? >> Sure. >> This week, it's a huge week for Creator

462
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,720
Warehouse. Is Shiptorm still running?

463
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:37,039
>> Uh yes, >> looks like it. >> I believe so. So, the Shiptorm sale is

464
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:42,960
still running. So, now is an amazing time to pick up uh I mean basically

465
00:33:40,399 --> 00:33:46,799
anything at LT store. So, we've got buy more, save more on our blank t-shirts.

466
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:53,120
Uh we've got deals running on our scribe driver bolt action um pen and pencil as

467
00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:57,039
well as our long sleeve t-shirts. And then uh hold on, hold on, let me see if

468
00:33:54,799 --> 00:34:01,039
I can find the details. And we have some super cool new items. So, Shiptorm free

469
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:06,399
shipping across Canada on orders over 150 and worldwide on over orders over

470
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:11,359
225. And then on the US site, oh no, I wish I had these details ready. I'm so

471
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:13,919
sorry you guys.

472
00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:19,359
And then on the US site, Shiptorm is uh yeah, free US-wide shipping on orders

473
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:22,720
over 150. And then uh Floatplane supporter plus. So if you're on float

474
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:27,520
plane at the supporter plus tier, it actually goes down to just $100. So it's

475
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:35,119
a great time to join Floatplane. Also, we have some new arrivals. Uh so yeah,

476
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:40,079
Luke's laptop. We have some new prints for our party shirts.

477
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:45,040
>> These are flipping amazing. Want to give us uh want to give us a closeup of that?

478
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:50,079
>> Are you serious right now? >> Laptop zoom. This touchpad is a little weird. It's not the site. It's the

479
00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:54,800
touchpad. Cursors. >> Yeah. >> Some of them are are glasses.

480
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,760
>> How cute is that? >> My hands. Some of them are pointers. >> Right.

481
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:04,320
>> That's fun. >> Yeah. And then we've also got Okay, this

482
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,440
one's this one's sick. Let's let me just

483
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:12,240
There we go. That works. >> There we go. So, this is like a very

484
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:15,440
kind of 90s and like ' 90s screen saver

485
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:17,200
and computing and also I don't know work

486
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:22,079
from home. It's got a whole bunch of different like vibes like work from the

487
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:24,960
beach kind of. Yeah, like the palm trees

488
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:29,680
and stuff. Just like don't mind me here chilling on my like CRT laptop or

489
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:37,359
whatever. And then this one's meant to just be like a very wearable uh lollipop

490
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:39,359
lollipop print. Totally not inspired by

491
00:35:37,359 --> 00:35:46,079
anything else that looks like that. It's lollipops. It's uh it's it's uh it's

492
00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:53,359
candies. It's umbrellas. It definitely is not a beach ball. 100% not a beach

493
00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:56,240
ball. Uh we've also got the spinning

494
00:35:53,359 --> 00:36:01,200
wheel of death pin set. Okay. Well, now we've really gotten rid of any plausible

495
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:05,839
deniability that we could have had around where that design inspiration

496
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:09,520
came from. So, here's our pin set that is Yeah, definitely not a beach ball,

497
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:14,240
except for the one that definitely is a beach ball. So, we've got candy umbrella

498
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:18,560
as well as a lollipop in there. Uh, what else do we got? Yo, yeah, so you can get

499
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:23,760
yours at LMG.gg/partyshirt and LMG.gg/wheelof

500
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:27,359
death. If you're looking for something that's a

501
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:32,079
little bit more low-key, we've also got two new polo colors, plus a restock on

502
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:36,000
black. So, soft cotton blend with a bit of stretch, so it's comfortable without

503
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:39,200
feeling sloppy. Clean, simple look that works whether you dress it up or keep it

504
00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:43,119
casual. These are just easy to put on pieces that go with pretty much anything

505
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:47,599
and that you can wear it pretty much anywhere. And you can shop at

506
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:51,119
LMG.gg/polos. We also do this kind of fun thing where

507
00:36:49,359 --> 00:36:56,640
we have like a little kind of splash of accent color down there. There you go.

508
00:36:53,760 --> 00:37:01,119
Polo shirts, dress blues, brilliant white and black.

509
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:05,520
Look how much happier Plof looks. Come on, Reese. Would it kill you to smile?

510
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:10,800
Love that guy. We uh we did an upgrade for him yesterday. Uh we're bringing

511
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:13,680
back setup doctor and his setup

512
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:19,839
>> needed some doctoring. He he streams, he games, he does like unboxings of fancy

513
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,720
shoes. He had so many shoes. Uh so we

514
00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:28,880
helped a little bit with the organization of that. We got him like a new desk setup. Um, and he tufts

515
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:33,440
does like carpet tufting. And so we got like a like a much more ergonomic, space

516
00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:36,880
efficient setup in his little room where he does all of those things.

517
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:41,680
>> So that was that was a fun shoot, guys. Don't miss that one. Lots of good vibes.

518
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:47,040
>> Also, uh, okay. Yeah, that's pretty much it. So yeah, now's a great time to get

519
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:50,880
an order in. Also, I think that a lot of

520
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:53,359
people probably missed it, but

521
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:58,880
um hold on. Where are they? Yeah, cables. So, we did have a small restock

522
00:37:56,240 --> 00:38:06,480
hit our US distribution hub today for Truepec cables. Uh okay. Yeah, many of

523
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:12,640
the sizes are already out of stock again. The only way that you're going to

524
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,240
have a shot of getting these guys is to

525
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:22,160
make sure that you get the notify me because when

526
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:24,160
they hit they're gone. So, uh there's

527
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:28,400
nothing I can do about that. It's in priority sequence. You guys got to you

528
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:32,880
got to get in there. Um so, yeah, we had an order hit today and then you can

529
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:38,560
actually you can actually see in the dashboard where it hits

530
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:41,560
here. Check this out. This is hilarious. Uh,

531
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:47,920
gee, Luke, can you tell me where the cable restock

532
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,920
was? >> Yeah. I mean, >> maybe where the maybe where the snake

533
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:54,880
ate the deer. >> Yeah. >> Um, yeah. So,

534
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:59,359
>> wild. >> Yeah. >> So, make sure you do that.

535
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:05,680
>> All right. >> Two coms. >> All right. So, if you're placing an

536
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,760
order now, it's a perfect time because

537
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:11,760
we have what we call checkout messages. We when we stream, we don't want you

538
00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:16,320
guys to just throw money at us for nothing. We want to work for it. That's

539
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:21,280
right, me, Luke, and Dan. We all want to work for it. So,

540
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:25,119
instead of having people just send like Twitch bits or super chats or whatever,

541
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:30,400
we created what are called checkout messages or coms. All you got to do to

542
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:36,480
send one is head on over to ltstore.com, add something like our new flex pants to

543
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:38,400
your cart, and go to the checkout. There

544
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,520
it is. You can choose to have it displayed as a checkout message. You can

545
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,200
make your name anonymous or you can show your name. You can send a little message

546
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:48,640
and then you can choose your color and whether or not you want to opt into

547
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:52,160
email communication about your message. This will help us follow things up with

548
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:56,079
you if you want. All right. Then you go ahead and place your order and it will

549
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,480
go to producer Dan. I already waved. I don't know what to do now.

550
00:39:57,359 --> 00:40:02,160
>> Uh you'll have to come up with something. >> Wave with the other hand. >> Nice.

551
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:06,000
>> Solid. >> It looks weird. I'm not used to him doing that.

552
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:10,640
>> It hurts. Anyway, it'll go to producer Dan who will reply to your checkout

553
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:16,400
message or will pop it up down here or up there or who will curate it for me

554
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,160
and Luke and often Dan to respond to.

555
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:22,960
Dan, do you want to do a couple for us? >> Yeah, sure. Hey, DL. Currently visiting

556
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:27,200
Vancouver with my wife and kids. I had no idea it was so beautiful. Kapalino

557
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,400
Park is awesome. Yeah. >> Do any of you guys go hiking or anything

558
00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:38,640
like that? >> Not as much as I should.

559
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:43,520
Literally, we were like flying over the

560
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:46,160
the like outer Vancouver region and I

561
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,560
was like, Luke, did you have any idea that there were this many hiking trails

562
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:53,920
in this area? >> I knew there was a lot, but it looked like a wherever we particularly were at

563
00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:57,680
the time like Chilowak or whatever it was like >> very likely. It looked like a video game

564
00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:02,720
map. >> It >> like there was just so many trails.

565
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:07,520
>> It was crazy. And they weren't they didn't seem to be like dried river beds.

566
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:11,040
Like they seemed to be hiking trails. >> Yeah. Oh yeah.

567
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:15,520
>> The entire area was just littered with them. And I was like, "How have I never

568
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:20,400
been on any of these?" >> Some of them are pretty great. >> Absolutely ridiculous.

569
00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:24,160
>> Oh, team is pretty legendary. >> Um, so yeah, we should Have Have you

570
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:28,240
ever done the grind? >> No, I've always gone the other way.

571
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:31,920
>> Gone the other way? >> Yeah. >> What's the other way? Isn't the grind

572
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,280
north van? >> Uh yeah. >> Yeah. I've always gone like out.

573
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:38,880
>> Oh. Oh, I thought you meant you've always like gone down it. Like you're

574
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,480
>> I take the I take Yeah, I take the gondola up.

575
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:46,240
>> You're literally not even allowed. Like it's >> That would be That would also be the one

576
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:50,079
way that would be really bad for my knees. Is to go down.

577
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,720
>> Okay. Well, if you ever want to do the grind, I'll do the grind. It's called the grouse grind. It's on grouse

578
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:59,359
mountain. You can like hike up the mountain. >> It's Yeah,

579
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:03,839
>> it's pretty savage. Wait till your knees are of like a workout than what you

580
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,960
might expect from a traditional hike. >> This is fair. >> It's just like an incredible amount of

581
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:12,640
stairs, >> which is awesome. There's people that do it like literally every day.

582
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:17,920
>> Like it's it's great. It's just uh it's a quite a bit of a different experience

583
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:20,079
from what I've heard. My brother shot up

584
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:26,400
there recently. I wan. DLL. First off, San update when

585
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:30,800
I'm a storage and backup engineer and that is my daily bread and butter.

586
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:35,200
Second, did you consider any centralized backup solution? Also, why no why so few

587
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,440
tall shirts? >> Now, I can see why you curated this one, Dan. Um,

588
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:46,960
>> it's a really good question. >> We are we are expanding slowly our

589
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:49,040
selection of tall merchandise. Um, we

590
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:53,200
just we have to be we have to go slow and steady. Sure,

591
00:42:50,800 --> 00:43:00,319
>> this may be a surprise to you, all of you, but physical goods are an extremely

592
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:03,599
cash flow sensitive business. Uh they

593
00:43:00,319 --> 00:43:06,400
every new product requires a brand new

594
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:10,319
upfront investment that may or may not pay off. And we just have to be careful.

595
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:14,400
We have to go slow. We have to be careful. We don't we're not taking

596
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:21,520
private equity. We don't have outside investors. So every time we launch a new

597
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:23,200
product, that's the product team working

598
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:28,000
with me and working with our other leadership and going, "Okay, here's all

599
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:33,119
the chips. These are our chips. Here we are betting them. Let's hope it pays

600
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:37,200
off. It doesn't always We've got to be careful. It's It really is that simple

601
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:42,560
and also complicated." >> I think I think the new the new war is

602
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:45,760
going to have to be over pants. >> Tall pants.

603
00:43:43,359 --> 00:43:50,640
>> I know. when when not even necessarily tall pants, just when you guys launched

604
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:56,480
the flex pants, I was really surprised the inseam length was 29. And then on on

605
00:43:53,760 --> 00:44:02,000
uh on an internet forum, uh somebody posted like, "Wow, LTT Store really

606
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:04,240
makes me feel really tall

607
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:09,920
and it was in relation to those pants cuz they're like, "Wait, inseam 29 is is

608
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:13,200
all they Yeah. Yeah, >> pants are tough, man. There's

609
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:17,520
>> Yeah, >> you have to have all the waist sizes.

610
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:22,880
Ideally, you would have all the inseam sizes. We've done as much as two inseam

611
00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:25,760
sizes for a pair of pants. Um I believe

612
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:29,760
the cargo pants, we have two inseams for >> and it it literally double like you got

613
00:44:28,319 --> 00:44:33,520
to you got to think about it in terms of skew count. You literally double your

614
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:37,680
skew count. And if we still had everything consolidated at a single

615
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:42,960
distribution center, that would be a little bit easier. But every additional

616
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,240
layer of complexity you add, it's a multiplier.

617
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:49,599
>> Yeah. >> It's not additive, it's multiplicative.

618
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:53,200
>> So, was that like I'm just genuinely curious. We've sold

619
00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:57,440
pants before. So, was that like did we have was most of our orders 29 or like

620
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:04,560
how did we land on 29? >> Um, we landed on that as sort of a like

621
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,200
a best middle ground for most people

622
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,119
>> really. >> Yeah. H.

623
00:45:08,319 --> 00:45:15,359
>> Okay. >> Yep. And what we would have probably

624
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:18,960
done if we had another skew is we would have gone longer. Yeah. But that was one

625
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:25,359
of those ones where >> it's like the tech pants are 30 and 32.

626
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:29,240
People also got a kick out of you guys calling tall 32.

627
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:36,319
>> There's degrees of tall. >> I'm a 32.

628
00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:40,560
So >> yeah, >> Dan's tall. >> Dan's pretty tall. >> What What do we call

629
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,800
>> got stumpy legs? >> Jonathan and Conrad and Lucas and those guys.

630
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:48,079
>> I mean Lucas. I mean >> towers. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

631
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:54,800
>> Like uh Okay. SN update. Um I am still not

632
00:45:51,920 --> 00:46:00,000
convinced that SAN is the right solution for us. I've every time I've asked

633
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:06,800
someone who's very pro storage area network uh why we should have one, they

634
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:11,359
have not given me a satisfactory answer.

635
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:14,880
Um NAS seems like the way to go for us.

636
00:46:11,359 --> 00:46:18,160
I we don't have the same kind of like

637
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:21,599
resiliency and like like crossorg

638
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:24,240
access complications that um that you

639
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:28,560
might have if you're like uh I I don't know flipping like multinational or if

640
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:32,400
you're or if you're like you know you're running a data center that has you know

641
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,440
CPU compute over here and GPU compute over here so you need to have like a

642
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:40,319
storage network that they all access like we don't have any of those use

643
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:43,839
cases we just have individual users

644
00:46:40,319 --> 00:46:46,480
accessing saying file level resources

645
00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:51,000
that are centrally stored. Can someone explain to me why we need sand?

646
00:46:52,319 --> 00:46:58,400
>> I think Floatplane has sand. >> Yeah, Floatplane does. But

647
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:01,119
>> do we have no seph, right? >> Yeah. Do we have no seph locally? I

648
00:47:00,319 --> 00:47:06,319
don't think so. >> I don't think there was a reason to.

649
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:13,119
>> It was a pitch at one point. >> Yeah. And then >> we didn't go that route.

650
00:47:09,839 --> 00:47:14,880
Uh it's all redundancy. Yeah, but we

651
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:21,200
don't need that much redundancy. We have the one share that is like the current

652
00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:25,760
projects actually redundant and replicated places share and then

653
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:33,119
everything else we made a conscious decision and it's been it you know it

654
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:39,040
it's it's funny for me seeing people sort of go oh remember that time they

655
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:40,800
lost data? Yes. Yes. Yes. We we've other

656
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:45,200
than okay when we lost Wanic that was bad but the time that our vault had some

657
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:50,160
data loss we had made a conscious decision that this was non-essential

658
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:55,040
archived data and that if we lost it we had decided that it was not worth the

659
00:47:52,800 --> 00:48:00,640
additional expense of replicating that storage and that's especially true today

660
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:03,440
man storage has gotten so expensive and

661
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:07,440
so we've made the decision that we only really need the projects we're working

662
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:12,160
on and every other like random snippet of footage. If we lost it, we lost it.

663
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:17,760
It doesn't really matter. And so going for something more complicated, more

664
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:24,200
expensive that requires more administration,

665
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:24,200
I I just I don't

666
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:29,839
um I don't see the point. Oh, are you are you literally talking to

667
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:35,680
AJ in chat right now? >> And Jonathan, they're both in here. We do have Seth on prem. Um it's just in

668
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:39,200
the lab and it's just an MVP right now. Sure, >> there's only a few things kind of

669
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:44,480
running into it. But the thing is when you take AJ and Jonathan and you throw

670
00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:49,680
them in the pool of IT people that do stuff for LMG, they come from Seph and

671
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:54,800
Kubernetes land. >> Yeah. >> So like it

672
00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:59,599
why not? It becomes I think a lot more reasonable. It's it's a right tool for

673
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:04,000
the right job for the right person type of situation. We have AJ and Jonathan.

674
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:09,599
We might as well do this thing. It doesn't necessarily mean that it's a

675
00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:12,559
recommendation for everybody. Um,

676
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:16,800
>> like TCL 987 says, I would think you'd want SAN for running VMs so that a

677
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:23,200
storage node going down doesn't take down the VMs too.

678
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:26,240
in terms of like like critical on the

679
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:28,559
media group side and the creator

680
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:35,040
warehouse side which make up the majority of our revenue.

681
00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:36,640
I can think of like a couple of VMs we

682
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:41,680
run like sure on the flow plane side. Yeah.

683
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:45,440
Yeah. Sure. You're 100% right. Like you want that redundancy built into that

684
00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:50,680
storage network that everything else is using. But >> yeah, >> for video editing,

685
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:57,280
we don't we don't have nodes of storage.

686
00:49:54,559 --> 00:50:02,559
We just have a storage server that every periodically

687
00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:04,160
backs up to another one.

688
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:07,839
If flowplane was on prem, you need it. Flow plane has it anyways. I just I just

689
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:17,119
said that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um Oh, faint locket asks, can you

690
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:19,280
explain what sand is? So basically the

691
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:26,240
idea is that instead of having your storage in each machine right like this

692
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,839
and this and then like allocating uh you

693
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:32,720
know like instead of putting like a drive into your computer and going okay

694
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:40,079
here virtual machine this is like your drive. uh SAN is an entire

695
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:43,200
an entire separate network of machines

696
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:45,040
whose entire job is to provide storage

697
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:49,680
for all the other machines on the network. >> A big pool.

698
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:53,200
>> Yeah. So whether whether their job is to

699
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:55,680
run VMs or whether their job is to uh

700
00:50:53,200 --> 00:51:02,000
serve media or whether their job is for the editors to access it, all of these

701
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:07,520
compute resources will just instead of having local storage over the network,

702
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:11,839
they will access this this storage network which is entirely separate boxes

703
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:17,119
that maybe don't need a ton of compute but do need like a butt ton of storage.

704
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:22,079
And then this this storage network is going to be built with redundancies and

705
00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:26,240
and safeties that make it so that if one of these machines goes down, all the

706
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:31,359
other machines that are doing all of your web serving and all of your uh your

707
00:51:29,359 --> 00:51:35,040
compute or all of your research or whatever it is they're doing are still

708
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:40,160
able to access their storage as if nothing happened. So, it's a way of of

709
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:46,319
distributing your storage to make it so that a failure will not impact your

710
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:53,760
operation at all rather than taking down one of your nodes. But we have so few

711
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:56,160
nodes outside of the Floatplane side

712
00:51:53,760 --> 00:52:00,400
and so little critical critical infrastructure that I just uh I'm just

713
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:05,040
not convinced that it is relevant for us. Um,

714
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:08,720
yeah, Torpedo Bench describes it as kind of like RAID but at a much bigger scale.

715
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:13,040
And and that's kind of a way of thinking about it. Instead of your one machine

716
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:18,720
having multiple drives, one of which could fail, all of your machines have

717
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:22,480
like a bunch of machines that have a bunch of drives in them and an entire

718
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:26,559
machine could fail and then they'd be able to still access it. It's that's

719
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:31,599
it's kind of a it's kind of a neat way of thinking about it. And then NAS is

720
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:35,599
more like like a it's like a storage area network that only that it's not

721
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:40,400
really a network. It's just it's just a a standalone resource that all of those

722
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:44,720
things can access over the network that might have some redundancy in the form

723
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:49,440
of uh in the form of RAID for instance but it doesn't have like multi-achine

724
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:55,640
level redundancy. That's about the kind of simplest way that I can

725
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:55,640
summarize it.

726
00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:02,200
Okay. Yeah. Time to do more topics.

727
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:11,520
Uh, no. Legendary ZNAS Nintendo emulator has

728
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:18,160
been rewritten from scratch with GPU acceleration. The original developers of

729
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:21,599
ZNES or ZSNES or ZSNES, whatever you

730
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:23,359
want to call it, ZS Knight and Demo are

731
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:30,400
back together for the first time in nearly two decades with Super

732
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:32,880
ZNES, a complete groundup rewrite of the

733
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:38,800
legendary SNES emulator that dates back to the DOS era and the first N Super

734
00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:45,040
Nintendo emulator that I ever used. I have personally played through Final

735
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:50,880
Fantasy 6 on this emulator, Chrono Trigger on this emulator. Like, man, I

736
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:56,480
have very fond memories of using this often times uncooperative but quite

737
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:59,040
quite treasured piece of software. >> It was what Yeah, it was what everybody

738
00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:05,520
used for a long time. >> The last major release was almost 20

739
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:07,839
years ago, though. So big change here is

740
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:14,240
a GPU powered pu core that enables high-res mode 7, widescreen support in

741
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:18,960
supported games, overclocking for games that were notorious for slowdown,

742
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:24,720
uncompressed audio, and perame visual enhancements that the devs are calling

743
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:27,599
super enhancement engine. It also keeps

744
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:31,760
the classic falling snow UI. It's available now on Windows, Mac, Linux,

745
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:36,480
and Android with iOS coming soon. And the devs made a point of listing no vibe

746
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:43,200
coding as an official feature. Everything was handwritten the classic

747
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:46,160
way. Now with that said, I have heard

748
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:51,119
that it's a little buggy. It is an early build. Special chips like chips like the

749
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:53,760
Super FX are not supported yet, but in a

750
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:57,280
world where vibe coding is everywhere. Is no vibe coding a selling point for

751
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:02,319
this for you? Would you want to try it? I I want to try it. I'm spoiler. I want to try it.

752
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:07,359
Uh, I don't know if like

753
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:11,359
no vibe coding is particularly a selling point, but I'm going to try anyways. I

754
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:19,359
wanna I wanna I want to hear you talk about that

755
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:21,920
>> if stuff is properly like I I know

756
00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:26,160
people that use vibe coding stuff in a way that I would consider properly and I

757
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:34,160
know people that use vibe coding in a way that I would hyperaggressively not

758
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:38,160
consider properly. Um, if these two guys

759
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:39,599
said that they used AI assisted tools, I

760
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:44,800
don't think I'd be too concerned about it. >> Interesting. So, to you, it's more about

761
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:51,680
having >> who's wielding the tools, >> having the skills and having the street

762
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:55,359
cred to take shortcuts

763
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:56,720
>> and know to like review it and make sure

764
00:55:55,359 --> 00:56:02,640
that bad stuff doesn't get through still. Um because it also it also

765
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:06,960
depends like did they say no? Okay, so no vibe coding specifically. So okay

766
00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:09,920
maybe yeah maybe that is particularly a good thing but like

767
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:15,200
>> AI assisted. >> So here's the quote the quote no vibe

768
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:16,480
coding classic development style but

769
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:21,119
that's pretty ambiguous. >> Yeah that's classic. >> Well to them 20 years ago might be just

770
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:27,599
no assistance. >> No no I don't think it's that they haven't been doing work. They just haven't been working on zness.

771
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,920
>> No. Yeah that's fair. Um, but yeah, I

772
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:33,359
mean, a AI assisted coding has been a thing for a super long time. Yeah, Peter

773
00:56:31,839 --> 00:56:36,799
said this and I I mean, I've said this on W show like a billion times and I

774
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:41,920
just still agree with it. The buck stops with the one who commits the code

775
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:48,240
100%. It goes back to that IBM thing that I've also shown on W show before.

776
00:56:43,839 --> 00:56:50,640
Um, quote, "A computer cannot be held

777
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:56,880
responsible." Um, let's find the slide

778
00:56:53,920 --> 00:57:00,720
here. A computer cannot be held accountable.

779
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:05,839
Therefore, a computer must never make a management decision. And a management

780
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:08,400
decision is to commit code. So like uh

781
00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:14,480
from the vibe that I get from this team, these two people, um yeah, I mean I

782
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:19,760
wouldn't particularly be too concerned about it. Um, but there there will be

783
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:23,839
people that will vibe code something and they'll tell me that excitedly and I

784
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:29,040
know who it is and I know how much work in development they've done and I'll be

785
00:57:25,359 --> 00:57:32,000
like, "Oh boy, I'm excited to see how

786
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:37,200
many different ways this breaks." Um, I wonder how many security keys are like

787
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:38,240
hardcoded and publicly readable.

788
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:42,319
Like things like that. >> Now you have to call me out like that.

789
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:45,839
>> No, that that never happened. >> Oh, no. No. um security key for your

790
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:50,720
Google sheet. >> Yeah. Um >> speaking of the Lionus Vibe coding

791
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:54,319
challenge, the project is officially dead, unfortunately. Yeah.

792
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:59,599
>> In the form of a video, >> but I'm still trying to uh I'm still

793
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:04,640
trying to turn it into at least if it can be if it can be cobbled together

794
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:10,720
relatively easily a Floatplane video or something. So, the problem is not that I

795
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:16,960
was not able to vibe code a solution. I was and it's actually been in production

796
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:20,720
since I vibe coded it which is like six months ago now or something which is the

797
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:28,240
problem. >> By the time we would be releasing this video

798
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:31,200
>> everything that I did is so far removed

799
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:35,359
from the current state of AI and vibe coding that it just doesn't make any

800
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:39,440
sense to talk about the entire thing like yeah

801
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:42,880
>> which I could probably do. In fact, I could probably do way faster with better

802
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:48,799
tools and now that I've done it. But the entire premise of the video for me was

803
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:54,079
as someone who's never done this, what does that look like? And we would no

804
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:58,640
longer be answering that question. The other thing that it wasn't killed

805
00:58:55,599 --> 00:59:00,799
because of is our real developer. Our

806
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:07,520
real developer was able to create a solution, but because of scheduling and

807
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:12,880
stuff and people being busy, I still haven't seen it.

808
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:20,400
So, what I was hoping that we could still do is

809
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:25,040
have um like have me sit down and like

810
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:27,040
have it shown to me and then

811
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:30,000
>> like Yeah, Dan could just kind of walk me through it and then we just do that

812
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,680
on camera. Sure. >> And then we can do that as And then I

813
00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:38,000
could do like a short little summary. >> He already walked me through it on camera.

814
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:40,160
>> Okay, perfect. And then we and then we can just throw that up on flow plane or

815
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:45,599
something like that. >> Yeah. >> Um >> another another Sorry, are you done?

816
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:48,720
>> No, I just And then I probably I probably need a little bit more of his

817
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:51,680
time though >> cuz I need it to work for mixed doubles

818
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,880
and singles as well. >> Ult ultimately I mean you you you pay

819
00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:59,280
his check. So >> Well, I know. But but then why did we

820
00:59:58,079 --> 01:00:03,040
have to do this whole vibe coding? So the vibe coding challenge started because I needed some development

821
01:00:01,839 --> 01:00:06,319
resources for something that didn't really matter. Um, but then then it

822
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:11,760
mattered because it was a video, but then now it's not a video. I feel like it would have been better for us to just

823
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:15,680
say, "Hey, can I have some of Dan Seagull's time?" It's it's easier now

824
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:23,760
and more appropriate now, I think. So, if you want service time, it makes sense. Um, I wanted to say one more

825
01:00:18,799 --> 01:00:26,400
thing on the super zed schnes thing. Um,

826
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:30,880
>> I think there's also a like >> is what can I classify this as a crywolf

827
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:35,680
problem? I don't know. I watched a a short clip last night before completely

828
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:40,960
tearing down my entire computer setup um of Shroud going back to Counterstrike

829
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:44,640
because I was interested because what I've heard is that Counter-Strike is

830
01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:49,200
covered in cheaters >> and the title didn't say anything about cheaters. It just said Trout goes back

831
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:54,880
to Counter-Strike in the first time or whatever. So, I watched it in the first two games he was in, there was two

832
01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:57,359
blatant cheaters. Um and it's it's it's

833
01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:02,400
this thing where like modern, especially FPS games, but modern every game. Uh,

834
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:06,480
basically, don't kid yourself. There's people that cheat in like Rocket League

835
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:10,960
and MMOs and and everything you can imagine. Um, with with cheaters freaking

836
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:14,920
everywhere. Something that has ruined

837
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:21,599
something that has ruined. That's a

838
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:24,559
weird sentence. Whatever. Um, is

839
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:28,160
defeat >> because it it often feels like

840
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:33,280
>> there's a built-in excuse for everything. Yes. So, if you don't think

841
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:37,040
that people are cheating or if it's they're probably not, then it's like, oh

842
01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:38,960
man, that guy's really good. I want to watch this replay and try to learn from

843
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:44,480
them, >> right? >> But if it's like, I don't know, there's usually at least one cheater per lobby.

844
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:50,160
Then it's like, nah, that guy's just cheating. Screw that guy. And it like it

845
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:52,319
it loses a lot of the like

846
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:56,880
the interesting nature of losing, if that makes sense. >> Yeah. Do you how do you how do you get

847
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,920
motivation from loss if the

848
01:01:58,319 --> 01:02:02,400
>> how do you get if the competition was never fair? >> How do you get like a rival?

849
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,720
>> Yeah. >> Like you know back back when there was dedicated servers and you jump on a

850
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:11,680
server and there was always that freaking guy who just >> Yeah. who'd get you like every time.

851
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:14,880
>> Yeah. And then and then you you train and you get better and you beat that guy

852
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:18,079
and then it feels good. Like that that type of stuff is just kind of gone from

853
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:24,240
cheating. And I think something that they're dodging here to bring it back to

854
01:02:20,319 --> 01:02:26,400
superness, super zness, um, is they're

855
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:31,359
saying no vibe coding. So if it comes out and it has a bug,

856
01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:34,880
you don't get to go, "Nah, it's probably just modern AI junk spaghetti code,

857
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,520
right?" >> Cuz they're saying no. >> No. If there's a bug, it's because we

858
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:44,640
think >> we haven't fixed that yet. >> That part I think is kind of cool. >> I think that's super cool.

859
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:51,359
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Want to pick a topic? Sure.

860
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:55,520
Uh, what do we got here? Sony finally responds to PlayStation DRM. Panic says,

861
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:59,040
"Only a one-time license check is needed. No 30-day requirement. This was

862
01:02:57,839 --> 01:03:03,440
confusing if you weren't on top of this news cuz you're a PC person. There was a

863
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:07,760
mysterious 30-day license timer showing up on PlayStation digital games

864
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:11,760
purchased after March 2026's firmware update." So, people were freaking out.

865
01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:16,400
What is this 30-day thing? modders on Twitter spotted it first, but things

866
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:21,760
spiraled when PlayStation's own AI support chat bots told users that they'd

867
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:24,240
lose access every 30 days unless they

868
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:28,720
were online, which is just not true, to be clear. That's just what the chatbot

869
01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:31,440
said. With nobody sure what was real, players started just testing stuff,

870
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:36,960
trying to see what was going on. YouTuber Spawnwave pulled his PS5 CMOS

871
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:41,200
battery to simulate a timer expiring and watched his brand new digital purchases

872
01:03:38,799 --> 01:03:44,640
just refuse to load with a license error. >> Nice.

873
01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:48,400
>> What actually happens if you miss the window is that the game stops working

874
01:03:46,799 --> 01:03:51,520
until you connect back to the internet. It doesn't delete it or get revoked

875
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:55,920
permanently or anything like that. Once you're back online, access is restored

876
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:59,839
and I believe once it does that actual check-in, you do get a permanent token.

877
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:04,079
Sony says that if you launch the game once while connected, a one-time check

878
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:07,119
kicks in and the 30-day timer won't apply at all ever again. It's fine.

879
01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:13,520
>> Okay. >> But, >> oh, testing from Reset Era user and

880
01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:18,480
Shrew found it's not quite that simple. There appears to be around a 15-day

881
01:04:16,319 --> 01:04:23,599
delay before the console actually converts your temporary license into a

882
01:04:20,799 --> 01:04:27,760
permanent one, a permanent offline one. Until that conversion happens, going

883
01:04:25,359 --> 01:04:33,760
offline for 30 days will lock you out. That 15-day window lines up suspiciously

884
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:37,599
close to PlayStation's 14-day refund period, suggesting

885
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:43,839
that this might have been an anti-fraud measure because apparently some people

886
01:04:39,839 --> 01:04:46,000
were buying games, going offline, having

887
01:04:43,839 --> 01:04:50,960
their offline version, refunding the game, >> right?

888
01:04:48,799 --> 01:04:55,680
>> Yeah. Uh Sony hasn't confirmed that part, but apparently that has been

889
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:57,039
happening. So, yeah, makes sense. Uh,

890
01:04:55,680 --> 01:05:00,960
Sony has now officially responded to GameSpot saying a one-time check is

891
01:04:59,359 --> 01:05:06,720
required to confirm the game's license, after which no further check-ins are required. The DRM is real, but it's not

892
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:11,359
the always online nightmare that people feared. That said, Sony rolled this out

893
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:15,599
silently and let the panic build for a freaking week before saying a single

894
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:18,640
thing. as a company.

895
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:23,039
>> God, it's kind of annoying. >> That sometimes

896
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:28,000
is has things

897
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:34,799
fester in the community. I understand it both ways.

898
01:05:31,839 --> 01:05:40,160
I can understand why it seems crazy that Sony didn't say anything for a week. And

899
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:46,960
then I can equally understand all the like mechanisms and checks that

900
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:51,359
external comms need to go through especially in the midst of a crisis and

901
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:58,200
why it can take a while. >> I I'm I'm going to firmly stand on both

902
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,200
sides.

903
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:06,760
Going wide. Yes.

904
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,760
Strong firm stance.

905
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:14,400
H I don't love this. I understand their

906
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:19,039
whole trying to dodge the fraud thing. >> Honestly, it seems better than Steam.

907
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:21,920
And we we hold Steam up on this like this pillar,

908
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:27,359
this this pedestal. >> It's better. How is it better than Steam? >> Steam checks like all the time.

909
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:30,079
>> Yeah, but if you go offline >> Yeah. then it works, which is fine.

910
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:33,599
>> Playing single player games. >> Yeah. Not always. They'll they'll make

911
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,640
you check once in a while. >> Oh, >> yeah. I guess I've never been offline

912
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:40,400
long enough to notice. >> As someone who uh actually it seems like

913
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:44,720
it's been a little better lately, but there was definitely a period where they

914
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:46,480
had cracked down on it quite a bit and uh we would really run into it like on

915
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:53,359
set. >> Can you just run the executables out of the folder? >> No, no, cuz it'll still launch Steam and

916
01:06:50,799 --> 01:06:56,720
it'll still do a DRM check. So, so we'd run into this on set when we only had

917
01:06:55,039 --> 01:07:00,400
like one copy of a game and we'd try to like pull the Ethernet cord and then launch it on the next computer and then

918
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:08,000
pull the Ethernet cord and then launch it on the next one and pull the Ethernet cord. So, obviously this is like not a,

919
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:11,599
you know, classic use case, but I have

920
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:14,319
definitely run up against this. Um,

921
01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:17,599
>> I I haven't steam I haven't done this often, but I have not ran into it

922
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:20,559
opening Steam when you try to just run the executable for the game. I've had it

923
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:25,280
just launch the game. >> Okay, people in chat are saying they definitely do. Does it depend on the

924
01:07:23,839 --> 01:07:31,680
game? Cuz from my understanding, >> I definitely see it depending on the game. Not like GG where part of the deal

925
01:07:29,359 --> 01:07:36,079
is that there's no online DRM. Like with Steam there there's online DRM. It's

926
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:38,880
like a feature, not a button. >> I bet you it depends on the game. It

927
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,760
depends on whether the game uses Steam Works, which is Steam's DRM. That also

928
01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:46,480
makes sense. >> Uh Couscous Captain says, "Can you keep your Steam Deck in offline mode for just

929
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:51,680
a limited amount of time?" Yeah, from my understanding, it'll eventually need to phone home, but I correct me if I'm

930
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:55,920
wrong. Like I said, this is something that I ran into more before and lately

931
01:07:54,640 --> 01:08:04,400
when we've been doing the Ethernet unplug thing, now that I'm thinking about it, it's been a little more

932
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:06,720
successful. Um, TCL 987 says Steamworks

933
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:09,359
and Steam DRM are independent. Um, blah blah blah. A lot of games use Steam

934
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:14,240
library stuff for networking, voice chat, etc. Yeah, so it's probably going

935
01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:17,440
to be dependent on the game somewhat.

936
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:20,319
Um, man, one thing that I find really

937
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:23,759
annoying as somebody who has to set up a system for travel probably more often

938
01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:29,440
than most people because when I'm traveling is often when I'll have time to like, oh yeah, I'm going to try out

939
01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:34,960
the Steam controller, so I need like to load a bunch of games onto a system

940
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:38,239
before I go. I really really wish there

941
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:40,960
was a way to with one button like do the

942
01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:47,759
pre-launch crap for every game on my system because if I'm like if I have no

943
01:08:44,719 --> 01:08:50,319
internet or I'm or I'm somewhere remote

944
01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:53,279
with very slow internet or whatever >> like okay like installing stuff not

945
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:57,679
shaders you mean >> no like get thenet whatever get the

946
01:08:56,159 --> 01:09:06,000
redistributable whatever >> install all dependencies >> do your DRM check like did install all

947
01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:07,920
dependencies cuz like it's it's

948
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:12,719
become more and more of an annoyance over time how many Steam games have

949
01:09:10,719 --> 01:09:18,400
other launchers or have random dependencies especially on Linux uh

950
01:09:15,679 --> 01:09:23,040
which I've been using more lately uh where they'll have to grab like Proton

951
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:29,600
crap ahead of time. Uh, so if I So if installing the game installed the game

952
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:34,000
so that I just click go and it goes, I would actually I would love that. So if

953
01:09:31,199 --> 01:09:38,880
Valve is taking suggestions right now, uh, that's something that I'd love to

954
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:40,799
see Steam level up on ever so slightly.

955
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:47,359
When I install a game, do all of it. Assume that my intention when I install

956
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:49,679
a game is to play the game. Um, not just

957
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:54,759
not just enjoy it being in my readytoplay filter. Um,

958
01:09:55,520 --> 01:10:01,440
okay. Uh, Igny

959
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:03,840
says, "As a game dev, requiring Steam is a toggle in the SDK API."

960
01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:09,120
>> Yeah. Okay. >> Game either confirms Steam is open and connected on Steamworks initialization

961
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:12,000
or it doesn't. So, that explains why >> we just tried to open different games.

962
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:16,080
>> We both would have had completely different experiences because both are

963
01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:19,840
both are true. That makes sense. >> Um,

964
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:26,159
>> it's not like a thing I do all the time, so I wasn't super confident in it.

965
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:31,040
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>> Lionus, we have a guest. >> We have a guest

996
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:44,880
>> for the Floatplane announcements. >> For the Floatplane, you just don't

997
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:48,880
trust us to do it right. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Well, come on.

998
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:53,520
>> Announcement first. The announcement first. >> Do the announcements first. What What's

999
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:57,440
happening right now? >> You want us to do the read, >> Dan? Point at him. Show how he's being

1000
01:12:56,480 --> 01:13:01,040
weird. >> Wait, what? Wait, what? >> He's like holding a monitor.

1001
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:05,280
>> Look at that guy. >> What's up with that? >> Look at that guy. >> I don't understand what's happening

1002
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:10,080
right now. If you read the document, you'll know >> he's up to something. >> All right, I'm going to read the

1003
01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:15,000
document. I'm reading the document. >> You know what the L in line stands for?

1004
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:23,040
>> Oh, there's a lot of flow plane exclusives about me this week. In the

1005
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:28,159
first video, Sammy gave me such a wonderful welcome back gift to welcome

1006
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:31,040
me back to the office. He will be fired for this injunction. Okay. So, first of

1007
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,760
all, Sammy, that's not really what injunction means. >> Is it not? >> No.

1008
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:37,600
>> Oh. >> Um, >> it's about >> And second of all, you're not fired

1009
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:43,840
>> allegedly. >> Um, okay. Anyway, this is the video. Uh,

1010
01:13:41,679 --> 01:13:50,640
people really loved this video on Floatplane. I came back to work and my entire

1011
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:53,520
office had been gift wrapped. Um, to

1012
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:56,520
this day, this is still how I feel about it.

1013
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:03,920
Anywh who, um, and if PC building is more your

1014
01:14:01,679 --> 01:14:09,600
style, I went head-to-head against Elijah, Jordan, and Pancratz to see who

1015
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,480
can build a PC the fastest at Lionus

1016
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:17,600
Media Group. Wow. >> Did any of you wear a horse head? >> Dude, you filmed that ages ago. That

1017
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:21,600
video is just coming out. It took forever to edit. >> We should do Yeah, we should do a video

1018
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:25,280
on who's the fastest to edit a video at Linus Media Group cuz I think I think

1019
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:29,840
you would not be in good shape. >> 4 hours and eight POVs I had to edit and

1020
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:34,320
then I got I have to do other stuff. >> What kind of videos you editing with the POVs? Sick,

1021
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:39,040
>> huh? >> You disgust me. Get your mind out of the

1022
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:43,440
gutter. Uh anyway, so that exclusive went up very recently. Oh yeah, you guys

1023
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:46,320
are you guys are loving this one, too. >> Just upload that today. Okay, I'm not

1024
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:51,520
going to scroll down to the comments because I feel like it's going to be

1025
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:55,120
somewhat debatable who won. So, it's probably going to come down to

1026
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:59,840
commenters to decide who uh who did it best. Uh what else is going on on Float

1027
01:14:57,440 --> 01:15:04,000
Plane? Uh to wrap it up, we've uploaded the full interview with the creator of

1028
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:06,719
Pop OS, Carl Michelle. That's pretty cool. Techquicki has been doing a ton of

1029
01:15:05,679 --> 01:15:10,800
interviews with interesting people lately. So, if you want to hear more from our special guests, we'll be

1030
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:17,280
uploading them to Flowplane. Very cool. Check out the sea of exclusives at LMG.gg/fp1. GG/FPWAN.

1031
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:22,960
And don't forget guys that now is a better time than ever to subscribe to

1032
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:27,280
Floatplane because at the supporter plus tier, you'll be getting a lower

1033
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:31,280
threshold for shiptorm free shipping. Now Sammy has a special show and tell

1034
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:35,920
for us. >> What do you want, Sammy? >> You can't get mad at me, Linus.

1035
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:42,239
>> Hold on. >> You're telling me I can't I can't get mad at you. Uh

1036
01:15:39,679 --> 01:15:45,120
>> can I stand here? You can stand anywhere you want. >> Don't touch the foils.

1037
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:48,719
>> So, you know, you know, >> you don't have a mic here, though. Did we

1038
01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:50,960
>> Is it Is this No, this this was last minute. I forgot you're not here next to me. That's why.

1039
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:57,920
>> Okay. >> So, you know, you know the uh the the chair you bought with uh David?

1040
01:15:54,960 --> 01:16:00,719
>> Um Oh, you mean the gun chair? >> Uh yeah, hold on.

1041
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:06,000
>> Yes, >> I'll bring I'll bring this up so people >> commissioned machine gun chair.

1042
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:11,280
>> Yes, that one. So, I >> So, here this was uh this was

1043
01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:13,120
yesterday's video. Uh, it has actually

1044
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:16,920
one of my favorite intros that we've done in quite a while.

1045
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:23,120
Uh, okay. That that wasn't it.

1046
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:29,280
>> What are you watching? What are you >> There we go. No, no, we're good. We're

1047
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:32,880
good. But this is a gaming chair. Um, so

1048
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:35,760
you can Yeah. So, we had

1049
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:38,080
>> I love David Crawling. So, >> but uh anyway, sorry.

1050
01:16:36,719 --> 01:16:41,440
>> Solid effort, David. I'm not trying to take too much time today, but um so I

1051
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:46,880
promised I would daily drive that thing for 30 days. >> I did not approve that.

1052
01:16:44,480 --> 01:16:51,360
>> Uh the ergonomics are like not safe in my opinion. >> Is this a good monitor, do you think?

1053
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:54,480
>> Yeah. >> Do you like it?

1054
01:16:54,080 --> 01:17:00,719
>> Yes. >> Do you like that monitor? >> Um so, uh the the lumbar I agree is bad.

1055
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:05,000
So I was trying to adjust it. >> Yeah. >> Did you know that thing has no limiters?

1056
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:13,199
It blew. >> Sammy, >> you can see my hand here. When I visit

1057
01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:16,000
tried to physically try to stop it, it did not stop. There's no limiter on that

1058
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:25,920
chair. >> Yes, I know. >> I didn't know that. So then it broke.

1059
01:17:22,480 --> 01:17:29,360
>> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I felt so bad. I'm

1060
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:31,440
so sorry. I'm so sorry.

1061
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:34,880
>> Uh yeah, but I recorded for Flow Plane. Uh, so you'll see my reaction on there

1062
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:38,560
where you see my my the horror in my face as I try to save this monitor.

1063
01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:44,400
>> Oh my god, >> it's mangled. >> That's deep.

1064
01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:48,480
>> You don't like the uh the the keyboard like plate? It went through it.

1065
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:51,840
>> Did it occur to you to stop it not with your hand like by pressing the button?

1066
01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:55,600
>> So the button wasn't responsive. >> It wasn't responsive. >> No, the one remote doesn't like work.

1067
01:17:54,880 --> 01:18:01,040
>> Yeah, I didn't know. >> You have to use the other. >> Did you think to watch the video before?

1068
01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:05,760
>> I watched like I watched mostly through. was like, "I know enough." And then >> I didn't know the I didn't know this.

1069
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:10,080
>> You are the problem. >> I know I'm the problem. I I

1070
01:18:08,719 --> 01:18:13,760
>> Okay, Lance would have just read the comments. >> I'm sorry.

1071
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:18,320
>> Yeah. And through reading the comments, I would have known all the critical

1072
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:22,640
information that he didn't have. You're I will die on this hill. You are better

1073
01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:28,239
off reading all the comments on a video than like watching the first 30% of it.

1074
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:29,760
>> I watched 50%. I, you know, I still

1075
01:18:28,239 --> 01:18:31,920
maintain you're better off reading the comments on a video than watching only

1076
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:37,360
half of it. >> But I I am sorry. Um, but I have my

1077
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:39,199
reaction on it on Full Play next week, >> so we're getting some content.

1078
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:43,199
>> Okay. All right. >> You know that crazy expensive computer you built for him?

1079
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,760
>> I feel like you have to take the value of this monitor out of that computer

1080
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:49,920
somehow. >> They took away my GPU already. >> Oh, >> really?

1081
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:53,920
>> I I stood up for you. >> I know you did. I appreciate it. >> You saw me stand up for you. I said they

1082
01:18:52,719 --> 01:18:56,000
shouldn't take it away. You know why they took it? Your department. Oh, get

1083
01:18:55,840 --> 01:19:00,480
owned. >> Yeah, now beak with you. Yeah, let's get one. >> Get owned. Yeah,

1084
01:18:59,199 --> 01:19:05,760
>> I don't think the two of us could take it with this broken monitor. I just

1085
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:08,960
might. It's very durable. >> All right. Thank you, Sammy.

1086
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:12,719
>> I'm very sorry. I'm very sorry. I feel so bad. I'm sorry.

1087
01:19:10,719 --> 01:19:15,199
>> Oh, man. That's a really nice monitor. >> I know. I'm sorry. I'm

1088
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:21,120
>> What's the What's the model? That's not the 4K one, is it? >> It's like 800 Canadian.

1089
01:19:18,719 --> 01:19:25,280
>> I'm sorry. I did It wasn't intentional. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I feel so bad.

1090
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:28,560
>> What monitor is it? Uh, it's a it's an Alienware something.

1091
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,480
>> You know that you're the one holding it who can see the model number, right?

1092
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:35,520
That's >> going to have to. >> Yeah, it's always on there.

1093
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:39,920
>> He's going to drop it. >> See, >> I mean, that's fine at this point.

1094
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:42,640
>> Sammy's one of those guys that we make a video with him and then half the

1095
01:19:41,199 --> 01:19:46,640
comments are like, "Why does this guy even work there?" >> I promise. He's really good at other

1096
01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:54,640
things. >> Wait, where's the model? He >> He is. Oh, Alienware 2725Q

1097
01:19:52,159 --> 01:20:00,239
October 2025. >> I think that's the 1440p. I'm sorry. I'm

1098
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:06,080
so sorry. Wait, how much does it cost? It's It's 500 US, right?

1099
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:09,040
>> OH MY GOD. NO. WAIT. NO. WAIT. OH MY GOD.

1100
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:13,600
That's the first one I saw. >> This is a 240 Hz 4K. Yeah. This is like

1101
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:17,679
top of the line. >> Holy crap.

1102
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:20,320
>> Studled. like one of the best monitors on the market.

1103
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:24,560
>> Wow. >> I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.

1104
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:28,640
>> I honestly had no idea when you showed me. I thought it was just like some

1105
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:31,600
random junk monitor. I had no idea. >> I had no idea.

1106
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:36,800
>> No, we got like really nice monitors and we had that like sick Alienware that

1107
01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:39,600
like sick Alienware gaming PC on it. It was like

1108
01:20:37,679 --> 01:20:43,840
>> that was like peak gaming other than the lumbar support and the headrest.

1109
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:47,600
>> But aren't you glad I'm okay? I didn't get hurt. Actually, yes. That would have

1110
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:54,800
been worse. >> Did you get blood on the monitor? >> I got my hand on it. See, see this this

1111
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:56,800
this this hand sign shows war. I went

1112
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:59,360
>> war shows that you were like banging in the depths of a steam ship.

1113
01:20:58,719 --> 01:21:03,199
>> Yeah. I was like, >> that's another possibility. >> That's not the kind of banging I meant,

1114
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:07,600
but sure. >> Yeah. >> What do you mean? >> He's never seen Titanic. This is the

1115
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:10,400
problem with the kids today. >> I watched Never mind. Sorry. Anyways, I

1116
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:16,880
don't take too much time, but >> All right. Thanks, Sammy. >> Sorry. hasn't seen Titanic.

1117
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:20,320
Hasn't seen POV. >> Who is this guy?

1118
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:24,040
>> That's That's more expensive than any monitor I've ever owned.

1119
01:21:24,719 --> 01:21:31,600
Just a random random fun fact. >> That might be worth more than every

1120
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:33,440
multimonitor setup you've ever owned.

1121
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:36,080
1300 CAD >> probably. And I run three pretty good

1122
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:42,960
monitors. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. No, I think it is actually. >> I think so.

1123
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:44,880
>> That's uh Wow. I would I like I I

1124
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:48,400
honestly had no idea. He showed me in the lab and I was like, "Okay." I mean,

1125
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:51,600
losing a monitor like sucks because we just always need monitors, but I'm sure

1126
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:54,719
it's just like some random generic monitor. I had no idea it was an

1127
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:59,679
Alienware. I had no idea it was high-end at all.

1128
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:04,239
>> No, it's the highest of end. >> It's It's like full Downward Dog

1129
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:07,760
Highend. >> Is Downward Dog the one where your butts

1130
01:22:05,679 --> 01:22:10,080
in the air? >> I It sounds like it.

1131
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:13,280
>> Yeah. >> Yes. Yeah. >> No,

1132
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:18,520
>> I was thinking of child. >> It doesn't It doesn't get much more high-end than that.

1133
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:28,639
>> All right. Well, subscribe to Floatplane so Sammy can

1134
01:22:26,639 --> 01:22:31,360
>> continue to do the things he does. No, he does really good stuff, too. I

1135
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:36,080
promise. >> Dude, that's that's a lot. >> All right, let's pick Let's move on.

1136
01:22:34,639 --> 01:22:40,159
Let's pick another topic. Hey, really cool LTT Labs article this week. Yeah,

1137
01:22:38,719 --> 01:22:44,400
let's talk about that instead. >> We know it can be daunting to take your

1138
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:50,159
first steps into the world of Linux. We know this because we've been doing it

1139
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:53,440
recently, but LTT Labs is here for you.

1140
01:22:50,159 --> 01:22:57,440
This article uh from Nick tested by Sean

1141
01:22:53,440 --> 01:23:01,679
and Steven is we tried popular Linux

1142
01:22:57,440 --> 01:23:03,760
gaming distros. It's I have not read

1143
01:23:01,679 --> 01:23:06,960
this one yet cuz it just went up, but I'm very excited to. This went up like

1144
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:12,400
two days ago. can maybe summarize for us. >> We we had some well yeah it's I mean

1145
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:18,320
we're kind of benchmarking a bunch of gaming dros and there's there's tests if

1146
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:22,000
you go down um there's there's standard you know Labs charts with different

1147
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:27,040
games and how the different dros did and as you might expect they're pretty

1148
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:32,400
similar cuz it kind of goes that way every time but we still looked at stuff.

1149
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:38,239
Cashy did pretty good. Let's go Cashy. Uh >> hey look at that. Look at that. I

1150
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:40,000
managed to pick the one the one that's

1151
01:23:38,239 --> 01:23:42,639
bad specifically for Doom the Dark Ages. The

1152
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:46,159
other games it was uh >> if we if we do another Linux I switch

1153
01:23:44,719 --> 01:23:51,120
challenge in the future, you should just have to use whatever I pick.

1154
01:23:49,199 --> 01:23:58,719
>> No, that's less interesting. No, >> I I like I I think it's really important

1155
01:23:55,840 --> 01:24:01,120
to have the conversation around what information a normie is likely to be

1156
01:24:00,719 --> 01:24:08,800
exposed. >> No, that's true. That's true. That to me is a whether I end up making the right

1157
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:12,800
choice or the wrong choice is is

1158
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:15,920
actually a fundamentally important part

1159
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:19,199
of the Linux challenge. And I

1160
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:21,120
intentionally will not just ask people.

1161
01:24:19,199 --> 01:24:24,480
>> I could have we even said this in the first episode. I could literally call

1162
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:28,000
Linus Torvoltz. Yeah. >> Literally have his digits and ask him

1163
01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:32,080
what district he used. But I'm not doing that. The one the only thing that really

1164
01:24:30,719 --> 01:24:36,880
surprised me and this would have led you to a dro that I didn't even recommend,

1165
01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:40,639
but I had a gut feeling that you were going to go with what he said he used.

1166
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:43,600
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> In the video you guys did together. That's what I thought you were going to

1167
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:50,719
do. >> Nope. No. So, my my part of my method is

1168
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:54,800
that I am I'm I'm looking at the entire switching experience

1169
01:24:52,639 --> 01:24:59,840
>> and part of the switching experience is going out there and fact finding. And

1170
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:08,080
so, you know, when the community kind of comes and goes like he did the factf

1171
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:09,600
finding wrong because he found the wrong

1172
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:13,360
conclusion. What we need to do is we need to look at

1173
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:16,800
okay, what are all these resources and why are they recommending this thing if

1174
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:23,360
quote unquote everyone knows that it's like not good? And honestly, we've

1175
01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:24,320
already seen some positive change

1176
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:32,239
>> every time. Yeah. >> Already. Yeah. And so it's one of those things where maybe I just accept my role

1177
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:35,360
as the bearer of bad news and the

1178
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:37,760
reality check for people who are so

1179
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:41,520
knowledgeable that they don't realize what they don't what they know I guess

1180
01:25:40,239 --> 01:25:47,440
is probably the best way that I could describe it. It's like a curse of knowledge thing to a lot of Linux

1181
01:25:44,719 --> 01:25:53,679
community members. They don't realize how easy it is to make the wrong choice

1182
01:25:50,639 --> 01:25:56,080
because to them it's so obvious. They

1183
01:25:53,679 --> 01:26:00,239
have they know the right people to ask. They know the right resources to look

1184
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:05,440
at. But to someone who to whom it's not obvious, who's coming into it for the

1185
01:26:02,159 --> 01:26:06,560
first time, it's very easy to end up on

1186
01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:11,280
a different path. >> And and honestly, I do find this pretty

1187
01:26:09,199 --> 01:26:14,719
interesting because I I didn't initially use chat. I've used chat GPD to try to

1188
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:19,280
figure out things that are going on with my system, but I didn't use it to pick

1189
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:24,159
my dro at all. But you did and it spat out pop OS and then I did to see if mine

1190
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:26,159
would as well. And I don't it was one of the options. I don't remember if it was

1191
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:32,000
number one, but it was one of the options. >> I don't think it was number one, >> but it was there. >> I thought number one was Cashy for you.

1192
01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:35,920
>> I don't remember. >> I thought it was like open susi or

1193
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:38,960
something. >> I'm sorry. I don't remember.

1194
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:42,000
>> It was a while ago. Um but this time I just did this sitting here right now,

1195
01:26:40,239 --> 01:26:48,480
not logged in. So it's not tailored on me. And best overall experience, Pop OS.

1196
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:52,560
So like we can say we can say whatever we want, but a ton of people will use

1197
01:26:52,159 --> 01:26:58,560
this. >> Yes. Yeah. >> And people can be like upset about that,

1198
01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:04,239
right? You can be upset about that. You can think they shouldn't use it. But and

1199
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:10,080
I said this I said this in episode one. If I am trying to be representative of

1200
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:13,760
Joe Gamer, who's doing my own research

1201
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:16,239
today and I didn't ask a chatbot, I'd be

1202
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:22,320
doing a complete disservice. That would be a completely unrealistic assumption

1203
01:27:20,239 --> 01:27:27,199
that they would not use a chatbot because so many people are using them.

1204
01:27:24,719 --> 01:27:31,600
And we know this. This is just a fact that we don't have to like, but we do

1205
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:36,080
have to deal with. We've got to deal with the fact that when Luke typed in

1206
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:43,199
what Linux dro should I use and then closed his tab right as I was about to

1207
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:43,760
switch back to his screen it out pop OS.

1208
01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:48,560
>> Yeah. >> And you know what's funny is um >> I know bar and a couple other things but

1209
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:51,040
it said best overall was Pop OS. >> I never actually switched off of Pop Os

1210
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:55,120
on my desktop. >> I don't know if I ever actually acknowledged that on Wancho.

1211
01:27:53,679 --> 01:28:00,800
>> I don't I don't feel like I realized that. I I kept it because I I did the

1212
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:06,639
vast majority of my Linuxing on my other machines which were not running pop OS.

1213
01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:08,800
I was running Steam OS on uh on the

1214
01:28:06,639 --> 01:28:13,040
media PC and then I was running Kubuntu on my laptop which I actually ended up

1215
01:28:10,639 --> 01:28:16,400
mostly really happy with. There were some issues, you know, we'll talk about

1216
01:28:14,719 --> 01:28:19,280
those. But uh yeah, I didn't actually end up

1217
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:22,960
using my desktop that much. And for the limited amount that I did use it, Pop

1218
01:28:21,199 --> 01:28:29,080
West not only was usable, but it actually got better over the entire

1219
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:29,080
course of the challenge.

1220
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:36,159
Someone in chat said, "I asked the LLM search and Ubuntu and Mint was number

1221
01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:40,000
one." I was like, "Oh, that's an interesting idea. I should just ask

1222
01:28:38,239 --> 01:28:47,120
search," which I never do. >> Yeah, >> but I should just do that. And it's the

1223
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:49,520
exact same output. Um,

1224
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:54,000
no bar project. I am specifying I'm switching to Linux from Windows

1225
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:57,520
>> and that's where a lot so so a big part of why it recommended Pop OS for me was

1226
01:28:56,000 --> 01:29:05,760
that I laid out what my requirements were. >> Yeah, >> I want and and a huge part of the of the

1227
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:07,360
residual sort of branding for Pop OS is

1228
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:12,560
that it's really good for people with NVIDIA GPUs who want a turnkey gaming

1229
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:17,440
experience and are coming from Windows. That's like that's the identity

1230
01:29:15,199 --> 01:29:22,880
>> of Pop OS. And also that it's not just for gaming. Like that was

1231
01:29:20,719 --> 01:29:26,719
that's that's the kind of like branding in a nutshell for Pop OS.

1232
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:29,600
>> I think I think first of all I think a lot of people

1233
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:34,000
have labeled me as like the Linux guy here, which I think is just not

1234
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:36,800
>> it's not true. But you're definitely um you definitely had more familiarity

1235
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:42,639
going into it than either of you. >> Oh, no. just trying to qualify my next statement as like I probably don't know

1236
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:47,360
as much about this as some of you seem to think that I do. Um but in my

1237
01:29:45,679 --> 01:29:53,600
experience the whole >> better NVIDIA driver native stuff is

1238
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:56,480
like eh >> yeah no I know

1239
01:29:54,800 --> 01:30:02,080
>> that hasn't been a thing for me in like a long time. I think that's uh I think

1240
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:04,159
that's an old and it's it's everywhere.

1241
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:07,040
So, like it was talked about a lot in the past, but I think we're kind of past

1242
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:13,520
that problem. >> Um, at least in in like everything I've

1243
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:15,520
used. Like Mint is much more casual and

1244
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:21,280
has no problem with NVIDIA drivers. Mint for me can switch between Intel and and

1245
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:24,800
NVIDIA graphics for like performance or battery saving setups and stuff and just

1246
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:30,560
has no problem with it. Like I I don't think that's a modern problem. Um, just

1247
01:30:28,639 --> 01:30:34,239
as a note for anyone watching, I wouldn't get too scared about the NVIDIA

1248
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:38,159
on Linux thing, it's it's really not as big of a deal as it was before.

1249
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:42,159
>> Tim 000x3 says, "Okay, here's my counterpoint, Lionus." Joe Gamer is

1250
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:45,199
actually going to also watch LT. So, they're going to say Lionus has a lot of

1251
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:49,440
problems with Pop OS and probably not use Pop OS now. Are you taking that into

1252
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:53,280
account? Well, I can't at the time. there's a bit of a like temporal issue

1253
01:30:51,199 --> 01:30:57,520
with your argument because at the time that I selected Pop OS, I have not yet

1254
01:30:55,120 --> 01:31:00,800
made a video finding out that Pop OS was problematic for me now.

1255
01:30:59,199 --> 01:31:06,480
>> So, it's Yeah. So, >> and also the chat GPT user base versus

1256
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:11,280
Linus TechTips viewers. >> So, the chat GPT user base is this big

1257
01:31:09,199 --> 01:31:15,040
and the Linus Tech Tips user B viewer base is this big. Yeah,

1258
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:20,239
>> like we I've talked about this a fair bit, but I

1259
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:27,360
think our regular viewers, especially our WAN Show viewers,

1260
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:29,520
overestimate the importance of us

1261
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:32,719
>> and I'm flattered. You know, I appreciate that.

1262
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:37,600
>> If if people that I game with figure out what I do, the most common question I

1263
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:40,080
get is, "What pre-build should I buy

1264
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:42,480
because I'm not into this stuff?" >> Yeah.

1265
01:31:42,159 --> 01:31:48,719
Y >> it was astonishing to me. I think much less so you, but it was astonishing to

1266
01:31:46,639 --> 01:31:52,880
me to figure out how massive the pre-built market was. I thought some of

1267
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:57,679
these companies were just kind of small. They've existed forever. Some people

1268
01:31:54,719 --> 01:32:04,159
build computers, whatever. No, they're big. They're very big. They're huge. I

1269
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:06,080
didn't realize how much like sway system

1270
01:32:04,159 --> 01:32:10,080
integrators had as well because they're so massive.

1271
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:13,920
>> I had really no clue. And because of how important they are, not even necessarily

1272
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:19,199
>> their computers cuz I'm dumb. even from a sales perspective, but from a

1273
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:26,480
marketing perspective, like when people are shopping for a for a gaming system,

1274
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:31,840
having your brand in everyone's configurator is in some ways like way

1275
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:36,080
more powerful than any reviewer that you could ever seed product to because

1276
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:40,080
that's where people with a very high purchase intent are going to be seeing

1277
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:45,520
your brand and are going to be exposed to your product. And it's it's funny

1278
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:48,480
because I um I in a lot of for a lot of

1279
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:53,040
my career I sort of took for granted my experience as a product manager and

1280
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:57,280
working in sales and marketing as just like well yeah but like everyone knows

1281
01:32:55,280 --> 01:33:02,320
that the enthusiast side of things is just this like you know tiny little cute

1282
01:32:59,679 --> 01:33:07,120
niche. Um and and and understands that there's actually a much larger machine

1283
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:09,040
here that doesn't really care about us.

1284
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:14,560
But then the longer I've been actually that

1285
01:33:12,159 --> 01:33:21,920
perspective was really important in trying to frame products in a way that

1286
01:33:18,639 --> 01:33:24,480
because I'm one of you because I am an

1287
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:29,280
enthusiast I I can see the things that are important to us but also share the

1288
01:33:27,679 --> 01:33:34,639
perspective that

1289
01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:35,280
guides product decisions that we don't

1290
01:33:34,639 --> 01:33:43,040
like. >> Yeah. And that is that 99 out of the 100

1291
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:46,719
people that are purchasing it are not us

1292
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:48,320
and don't care. Like, okay, here here's

1293
01:33:46,719 --> 01:33:52,480
something that I know is a bug bear for you. Boring modern graphics card

1294
01:33:51,679 --> 01:34:00,320
packaging. >> Yeah, >> but look at it from NVIDIA's

1295
01:33:56,719 --> 01:34:01,679
perspective. Okay. GPU box. Here we go.

1296
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:04,560
>> Dude, they were so cool. >> Oh my god. Packages.

1297
01:34:03,440 --> 01:34:11,600
>> So boring. >> Okay. Look at that boring box. >> So, this is what they used to look like.

1298
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:14,320
>> That's so sick. >> So much better, dude.

1299
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:19,280
>> Here's what they look like. >> Here's what they look like now.

1300
01:34:16,239 --> 01:34:22,400
>> So, NVIDIA mandates that you have to

1301
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:23,840
have, you know, this and on the side,

1302
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:29,360
uh, let me see if I can find a shot from the side. Uh, you've got to have, so

1303
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:31,760
you've got to have certain elements. >> I know, I know. Relax.

1304
01:34:30,719 --> 01:34:36,960
>> Overclocked. >> Okay, here you go. So, you've got to have this on the side so that no matter

1305
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:42,080
how it's faced on the shelf, everyone can see the GeForce and the model number

1306
01:34:40,639 --> 01:34:46,239
and you know, whatever. And you know what? In fairness to NVIDIA,

1307
01:34:43,679 --> 01:34:50,719
>> I'm not that against that. >> This was pretty hard to read. You know

1308
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:53,440
about this, right? This is like a It's like a table book. Did you Did you order

1309
01:34:52,719 --> 01:34:59,520
it? >> No. >> Um >> Oh, remember this thing?

1310
01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:04,320
>> Oh, yeah. No, I didn't. I should. >> Yeah. Did did Did that ever uh

1311
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:09,760
noteworthy find from the Did Did that ever like come to life? Publishers

1312
01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:13,920
website for stock alerts. Overclocked an

1313
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:16,800
archive of graphics card box art. Can we

1314
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:19,120
Let's go. All right. Uh this is your birthday present.

1315
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:23,679
>> Sick. Thank you. >> All right. Um,

1316
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:29,199
yeah, I I think having some amount of standard labeling so that you can tell

1317
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:35,040
what thing you're buying is fine, but then beyond that, I would like it if it

1318
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:37,440
was if NVIDIA would screw off.

1319
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:40,960
Um, and just let people do fun stuff outside of like, you know, have your we

1320
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:44,080
we talk about it with thumbnails where there's like the the safety zones or

1321
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:49,760
whatever >> where like, okay, this is this isn't going to conflict with YouTube putting a

1322
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:53,920
timestamp or or or a hover over or something like that. Have those areas

1323
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:58,320
just be where NVIDIA has their mandatory branding. Cool. No problem. And then

1324
01:35:56,159 --> 01:36:02,560
beyond that, have some fun with it. It's a graphics card. It's supposed to do fun

1325
01:36:00,480 --> 01:36:06,560
things. >> Somehow we ended up here. We were

1326
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:11,760
talking about this article on the Labs website. Check it out at ltlabs.com.

1327
01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:15,760
Um, it's just up here in the in the feed right here. Before you ask, yes, we do

1328
01:36:14,239 --> 01:36:19,120
have an RSS feed >> so that you can make sure that you see

1329
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:22,960
all these all these really all these really cool articles that are actually

1330
01:36:20,719 --> 01:36:24,960
coming out on a very regular basis these days. >> Yeah.

1331
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:32,000
>> Go check it out. >> Yeah. >> All right, let's pick another topic.

1332
01:36:29,440 --> 01:36:38,400
Oh, this is cool. Uh, here. Do you want to bring up the visuals for uh wave

1333
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:41,840
overhangs is a new open-source slicer

1334
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:46,080
forked from Orca Slicer that can print,

1335
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:50,960
and this is wild, fully horizontal 90°

1336
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:52,639
overhangs without support material.

1337
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:57,040
That's what I looked like. >> That's confusing.

1338
01:36:54,639 --> 01:36:59,119
I'm I don't I'm not a big 3D printer omega brain, but this that's confusing

1339
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:04,320
to me. >> Okay, you've got the visuals up now. >> I think so. Okay. So, here, let's throw

1340
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:09,920
a Okay, this is cool. Yeah. Can you like zoom zoom zoom? Yeah, there we go. So,

1341
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:15,040
instead of laying plastic into thin air and then just hoping for the best. Okay.

1342
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:20,560
It generates concentric rings of material that each grab onto the cooled

1343
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:24,719
ring that was laid down before them in the same layer, propagating outward from

1344
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:29,920
the supporting from the supported edge like a wave. So, we're looking at the

1345
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:38,719
one on the right over there. So you can see that it it kind of it kind of goes

1346
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:42,080
a little farther a little farther each

1347
01:37:38,719 --> 01:37:44,159
time in order to in order for that

1348
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:49,679
overhang to have something to grab onto. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> This concept isn't brand new. Arc

1349
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:53,760
overhangs first appeared back in 2022 as a proof of concept that using

1350
01:37:51,679 --> 01:37:58,000
overlapping circular tool paths could achieve the same basic idea. The

1351
01:37:56,000 --> 01:38:01,360
difference is arc overhangs were never integrated into a real slicer and

1352
01:37:59,679 --> 01:38:04,400
required manually extracting coordinates, running a separate script,

1353
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:09,760
and then pasting the G-code back into your sliced model. >> Wave paths do look a lot more simple.

1354
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:13,119
>> Not exactly the kind of thing that most people are going to want to bother with.

1355
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:16,960
Wave overhangs then is the first time the technique has been built directly

1356
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:20,880
into a usable slicer with a gooey toggle with tunable settings and two different

1357
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:25,840
algorithms to choose from. It is still very experimental. There are around 20

1358
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:30,080
tunable parameters and no presets yet. And warping on larger spans is a known

1359
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:34,480
limitation. Uh, but the developers are asking users to be part of its

1360
01:38:32,159 --> 01:38:38,800
development and upload test prints to a community gallery at waveoverhangs.com

1361
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:45,360
to help figure out what settings work best across different printers and

1362
01:38:41,679 --> 01:38:47,679
materials. Um, so be be part of the

1363
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:53,360
change you want to see in the world. Let's have a look at um some stuff from

1364
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:54,320
the gallery. Like Oh. Oh, how cool is

1365
01:38:53,360 --> 01:39:00,920
that? >> Wow. >> Right.

1366
01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:00,920
>> That's pretty sweet.

1367
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:06,239
Oh, I like it. Less supports should mean less wasted

1368
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:13,360
plastic. >> More warping observed. >> It's always >> Hold on a second. No, wait a second. Oh,

1369
01:39:10,239 --> 01:39:16,800
wait. What am I looking at here?

1370
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:18,400
This looks like a uh No, forget this

1371
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:24,400
one. Hold on. Hold on. Let's find what? Yeah. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.

1372
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:30,960
Okay. That isn't that is an that's an overhang and a half. That's wild.

1373
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:39,320
Being able to print that. Like, yeah, not perfect, but like that's crazy.

1374
01:39:35,199 --> 01:39:39,320
There's the print bed right there.

1375
01:39:43,440 --> 01:39:53,280
Man, dang. 3D printing you crazy.

1376
01:39:49,679 --> 01:39:56,000
>> Look at this. Best print so far on this

1377
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:58,960
very challenging test print. Pattern zigzag.

1378
01:39:58,239 --> 01:40:04,880
>> Wow. >> There's definitely some warping. >> Oh, yeah.

1379
01:40:02,639 --> 01:40:09,440
But like this is how this is how these things get to the point where it's like

1380
01:40:07,199 --> 01:40:13,600
>> click and forget. Am I wrong that this would even just be a good idea to do

1381
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:16,560
even if you did have some supports to help stop the warping? Because wouldn't

1382
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:19,840
it be stronger once you remove the supports as well? >> Or am I just totally tripping?

1383
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:24,400
>> Possibly. >> Cuz what I'm seeing in the in the demo imagery,

1384
01:40:23,119 --> 01:40:27,679
>> the the thing that was most interesting to me, I'm going to jump over to mine. >> Look at that.

1385
01:40:26,639 --> 01:40:31,040
>> Oh, wait. We can look at that for a second. >> Look at that. Look at this, Luke.

1386
01:40:30,159 --> 01:40:35,600
>> Look at this. >> That is cool. >> No supports, Luke. >> That's pretty wild.

1387
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:39,040
>> That's crazy. This is the base, guys, for context. This is what was stuck to

1388
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:43,600
the base of the print bed. Yeah. So, this gives us a look at what it looks

1389
01:40:41,199 --> 01:40:49,520
like from the bottom. Like, >> so what I'm seeing here is like in these

1390
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:51,840
example images, the detached lines here,

1391
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:56,639
>> just removing those and making it so that you're you're like

1392
01:40:54,960 --> 01:41:02,400
uh your your path is all the way from back here. So, you have all the strength from back here on these like uh these

1393
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:06,960
parts here, which seem like they might be more breakable. I don't know. I'm not

1394
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:11,679
3D printer brain guy, but it seems like potentially using wave paths in

1395
01:41:09,119 --> 01:41:17,280
combination with supports if you can't afford to have any deformation uh could

1396
01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:20,560
be a cool option for strength. I don't know.

1397
01:41:18,719 --> 01:41:25,040
>> Uh James Unknown says, "I've been 3D printing for years now, my own business

1398
01:41:22,239 --> 01:41:28,320
now, and this is huge. Not just saving material, but also what Luke is saying,

1399
01:41:26,639 --> 01:41:32,000
I can see that being way stronger." >> Cool. Okay, sweet.

1400
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:35,600
>> Very I mean, that that seems awesome to me because you might even end up with a

1401
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:40,719
combination of both. You might not need as much support if it's not going to be

1402
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:44,400
as much of a as big of a problem. So, you can save some material and it can be

1403
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:50,480
stronger. Like, what a win. All right, I got a funny one. Qualcomm's stock surges

1404
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:57,679
in response to a report that it could make chips for an open AI smartphone

1405
01:41:54,719 --> 01:42:02,719
and then it lost much of those gains on subsequent trading days. According to a

1406
01:42:00,719 --> 01:42:06,639
report from well-known tech analyst uh Mingchi Quo, OpenAI is working on its

1407
01:42:05,199 --> 01:42:11,199
own smartphone in an effort to compete with the iPhone with mass production

1408
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:14,159
targeted for 2028. Quo Yeah, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. Just a sec. Just

1409
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:18,000
a sec. Hold on. Hold on. Relax. Relax. Kuo says that OpenAI has partnered with

1410
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:21,760
chipmakers Qualcomm and MediaTek to develop the smartphone's processors with

1411
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:26,800
Lux Share handling system co-design and manufacturing. The phone will reportedly

1412
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:29,600
have no apps and be a completely agentic

1413
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:33,679
workflow, whatever that means. This is another in a handful of hardware. So,

1414
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:37,920
hold on, hold on, contain yourself. This is another in a handful of hardware

1415
01:42:36,159 --> 01:42:42,320
products that OpenAI has announced but not yet released, including earbuds and

1416
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:48,199
that HomePod style smart speaker that Johnny IV is reportedly working on.

1417
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:48,199
Okay, go.

1418
01:42:52,159 --> 01:42:59,520
First of all, just flatline used no

1419
01:42:55,440 --> 01:43:01,679
brain power had a thought sounds

1420
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:08,320
terrible. I would never want to buy this. Oh my god. Okay, diving a little

1421
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:14,639
bit more into things. It uses no apps. Dang, that sucks a lot.

1422
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:20,880
So much of what I'm going to need to do is using apps on my phone. Uh hopefully

1423
01:43:18,480 --> 01:43:23,760
I'm not just like, you know, that old guy that gets clipped in the future when

1424
01:43:22,480 --> 01:43:28,960
people are like, "Oh, obviously we didn't need whatever." But at least

1425
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:31,360
right now, this seems genuinely bad. Um,

1426
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:36,800
also isn't it called apps when you add like functions to agentic

1427
01:43:34,719 --> 01:43:38,880
systems? Like when when

1428
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:42,159
>> what does app even mean? >> When a >> It used to be short for application.

1429
01:43:41,119 --> 01:43:47,040
>> This is kind of what I mean. >> Now it's developed. It's kind of its own meaning. I don't know what

1430
01:43:44,719 --> 01:43:53,360
>> when they added wolffram alpha as a thing to open AI's agentic mode. Was

1431
01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:59,520
that was it not an app? >> They could be called skills too. Skills

1432
01:43:55,360 --> 01:44:02,320
and tools. Sure. Whatever. Um, sounds

1433
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:07,119
sounds good. Uh, other than the product. The product sounds terrible. Um,

1434
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:08,880
>> remember that time that Facebook wanted to make a phone?

1435
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:17,280
>> Yeah. >> Remember how nobody wants or needs a

1436
01:44:13,119 --> 01:44:21,040
phone that is not at least at least a

1437
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:22,880
walled garden ecosystem that is that is

1438
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:30,000
accepting of, you know, pretty much everything else running on it as a

1439
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:33,520
platform. Can you think of any reason to

1440
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:35,920
want this over a phone from someone with

1441
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:39,360
decades of experience building hardware like Apple?

1442
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:44,800
>> The Western world is still going to want iPhones and the rest of the world is

1443
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:52,000
still going to want open systems that they can extend and modify and and keep

1444
01:44:47,679 --> 01:44:53,600
going long term. And this is neither.

1445
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:58,320
And I don't think it's going to breach the market basically anywhere. Maybe

1446
01:44:56,080 --> 01:45:02,880
it'll be popular for sales in San Francisco.

1447
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:08,800
Uh, and that's probably about it. So, it's the it's the smartphone for tech

1448
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:10,719
bros and tech bros only.

1449
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:13,440
Whoa. Okay. Do you want to hear something kind of wild?

1450
01:45:12,159 --> 01:45:16,800
>> There's more viewers on >> there's more viewers on the WAN Show

1451
01:45:15,199 --> 01:45:20,239
channel than there are on the Linus Tech Tips channel. I think it's going to be

1452
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:23,760
time to cut it off pretty soon. Guys, if you're watching on Linus Tech Tips right

1453
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:26,639
now, you got to go switch over to the WAN Show channel. >> We got to figure out that collaborative

1454
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:31,840
thing. >> Yeah, >> I think that's probably the way to go like moving forward.

1455
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:34,719
>> Yeah, like a collab stream. So, we stream on the WAN Show and then

1456
01:45:33,440 --> 01:45:40,719
>> we just collab with LT >> collab for a while. I don't think we should do it forever because I don't

1457
01:45:37,679 --> 01:45:42,639
want to be sending notifications on both

1458
01:45:40,719 --> 01:45:46,880
forever. I think we should move to WAN Show sooner rather than >> I don't think it will if you're

1459
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:51,600
subscribed to both. I think YouTube is smart about that.

1460
01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:53,600
>> I also I also don't want to let people

1461
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:58,960
get complacent about it. They should subscribe to the WAN Show in order to

1462
01:45:55,679 --> 01:45:59,520
continue to follow the WAN Show. So, G

1463
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:04,239
get on >> You can do it for streams. >> Get on over there. >> Really, Sammy?

1464
01:46:03,440 --> 01:46:12,159
>> Um, >> YouTube collabs. >> All right, moving on to our next topic.

1465
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:17,679
I'm going to pick one. Maryland >> video >> has become the first American state to

1466
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:21,199
ban surveillance pricing in grocery stores.

1467
01:46:19,119 --> 01:46:26,880
Critics do say that the law has too many loopholes. But look, let's let's start

1468
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:32,639
with let's start with the good news side of it. The law was signed by Governor

1469
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:34,639
Wes Moore on Tuesday and bans grocerers

1470
01:46:32,639 --> 01:46:39,840
and third party delivery services from using personal data to set higher

1471
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:46,159
prices. If you're not familiar, surveillance pricing is a practice that

1472
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:48,960
uses some characteristic of yourself,

1473
01:46:46,159 --> 01:46:55,760
like your zip code, for instance, or your ethnicity or um just any personal

1474
01:46:53,600 --> 01:47:03,119
personally identifiable personal information about you and uses it to

1475
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:05,360
adjust the pricing upward um because of

1476
01:47:03,119 --> 01:47:08,400
what you can presumably afford. there's some camera thing and it's like, "Oh,

1477
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:13,119
white people like broccoli. Let's increase the price of broccoli." >> Pretty much. It doesn't have to be a

1478
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:17,119
racial thing, but um >> it could be. >> Let's face it,

1479
01:47:16,239 --> 01:47:21,199
>> it could be. >> Whether we want it to go to a race place or not, it often ends up

1480
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:24,880
>> they'll put it behind some machine learning thing and call it a black box and say they have no control over it.

1481
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:28,199
>> Sorry, what kind of box? >> Oh my god.

1482
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:37,360
>> I think you're more intimately familiar than me.

1483
01:47:35,440 --> 01:47:40,360
Uh, no.

1484
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,560
Listen,

1485
01:47:50,239 --> 01:47:57,600
Colorado, California, Massachusetts, Illinois, and

1486
01:47:55,440 --> 01:48:02,400
New Jersey are all considering similar bills. But while this is a win, consumer

1487
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:07,040
advocates are saying that Maryland's law is full of loopholes. The biggest one is

1488
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:10,480
that it bans raising prices based on personal data, but doesn't stop

1489
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:15,440
companies from raising prices for everyone, then offering personalized

1490
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:20,159
discounts that ultimately arrive at the exact same outcome. There are also

1491
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:23,679
exemptions for loyalty programs and promotional offers, which are some of

1492
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:28,159
the main vehicles that companies already use to do this. And there's no private

1493
01:48:26,719 --> 01:48:31,920
right of action, meaning that regular consumers can't actually sue if they get

1494
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:35,520
caught up in surveillance pricing. Only the state attorney general can enforce

1495
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:39,840
it, which critics say guts any real deterrent. So, it's a little bit of

1496
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:44,639
progress in that we're finally talking about the issue. We're acknowledging the

1497
01:48:42,159 --> 01:48:48,880
issue, but it's very clear that there is a lot more that needs to be done. And I

1498
01:48:47,440 --> 01:48:53,760
mean, personally, I would just love to see this happen across the board. you

1499
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:56,800
know why are airline t why are airline operators allowed to do this

1500
01:48:55,840 --> 01:49:02,400
>> actually crazy >> like the entire vacation industry seems

1501
01:48:59,199 --> 01:49:05,679
to operate based on this um however

1502
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:09,679
however I I would caution that we don't

1503
01:49:05,679 --> 01:49:13,119
want to go too far regional pricing on

1504
01:49:09,679 --> 01:49:14,800
services like steam for example I

1505
01:49:13,119 --> 01:49:19,760
>> fundamentally support >> so this shouldn't be able to be done within a country is that fair enough

1506
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:24,239
>> I think that's a fair line to draw let's use the those arbit arbitrary lines on

1507
01:49:21,440 --> 01:49:29,480
the map and let's let's make those the boundaries.

1508
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:29,480
>> Would you go as far as like

1509
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:36,719
a province >> or a city?

1510
01:49:34,239 --> 01:49:39,280
>> Would I allow different pricing

1511
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:43,280
>> because I'm pretty sure >> somebody had Alberta plates on?

1512
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:46,639
>> Oh, right. Cuz it would have to be dynamic. It has to be dynamic. Yeah.

1513
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:51,840
>> No, I don't. I >> Okay. So, cuz my mind is like I mean there is different pricing for like say

1514
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:55,280
milk in Alberta versus here. >> Yeah. But it shouldn't be because of

1515
01:49:53,520 --> 01:50:00,800
where you're from or because of who you are. >> It shouldn't be. Yeah. >> Yeah. No, that's up. Especially

1516
01:49:58,239 --> 01:50:03,199
because it incentivizes these organizations to then collect the data

1517
01:50:02,480 --> 01:50:07,360
on everybody. >> Yeah. >> And then whether or not they actually use it, I mean, a lot of they're going

1518
01:50:06,639 --> 01:50:12,000
to use it anyway. >> You can set your pricing. There might be market factors. It might be more

1519
01:50:10,239 --> 01:50:17,280
expensive to get trucks to wherever you are. Maybe you're way north in Canada or

1520
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:18,800
something. That's just a fact. Um, but

1521
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:25,360
you can't you can't change it based on who's in the store. Yeah, obviously that

1522
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:28,400
seems like it should just happen.

1523
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:30,639
Um, Fools and Horses says, "Linus, do

1524
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:34,400
you collect any trends or data from LT store? Where does the line get drawn?"

1525
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:39,840
You know what? This was actually something that >> you don't use that to

1526
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:46,159
target pricing for specific users, though. >> Uh, no, we don't. But Colton had

1527
01:50:42,159 --> 01:50:49,280
actually messaged us about um like what

1528
01:50:46,159 --> 01:50:51,280
we do and don't collect on LT store and

1529
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:55,520
like where we think the right line would be. I don't know if we ever actually

1530
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:59,040
talked about that on WAN Show. I can't actually I can't find the email from him

1531
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:06,880
right now, but do you remember the one that I'm talking about? They're trying to figure out like what would be what

1532
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:09,280
would be uh you know an LMG friendly

1533
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:13,440
level of like cookies and data collection to determine whether some of

1534
01:51:11,679 --> 01:51:19,679
the marketing efforts that his team is doing are actually working because right

1535
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:21,760
now we do some limited data collection

1536
01:51:19,679 --> 01:51:26,880
but there are pieces of it that would be very helpful to them that right now they

1537
01:51:24,480 --> 01:51:31,360
don't they don't have enough to get a to get a clear picture. For instance, like

1538
01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:38,639
um one of the things they were looking at was like conversion of um of people

1539
01:51:35,679 --> 01:51:44,639
on Floatplane for subscriptions and stuff like that. Uh what what is what's

1540
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:48,239
the right amount? >> The Floatplane one was a pretty big

1541
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:52,239
line because we don't have a banner for stuff like that because we don't do like

1542
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:56,960
any of it. So we were like h we'd have to do >> Oh, like a GDPR like and like a cookie

1543
01:51:55,360 --> 01:52:00,159
banner and like all that kind of stuff. Yeah.

1544
01:51:58,639 --> 01:52:04,159
Um, so I we just didn't do it.

1545
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:08,159
>> Ze says, "I avoid ads at a very high cost." Yeah, we're not we're not talking

1546
01:52:05,679 --> 01:52:10,560
about ads though. We're talking about like >> forms of tracking.

1547
01:52:09,440 --> 01:52:14,960
>> Yeah. >> Because like you it's it's there are

1548
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:17,440
also other ways to do it though and that that was the counter pitch from flow

1549
01:52:16,639 --> 01:52:25,199
plane. >> So how do we do it? Um, you can have

1550
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:27,440
like you can have it so that it's a link

1551
01:52:25,199 --> 01:52:30,239
and like the where did the URL come from. >> Yeah.

1552
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:35,199
>> So we we can't track it on like an individual user basis, but we can see

1553
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:37,679
like this many people clicked this link

1554
01:52:35,199 --> 01:52:41,440
and this many people that clicked on that link did follow through and

1555
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:45,679
purchase a description. Now, someone could screw that up because the for us

1556
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:52,960
because they could click on the link and then like navigate somewhere else manually and that manual navigation

1557
01:52:49,199 --> 01:52:55,040
might get rid of the the uh the URL.

1558
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:58,800
Like there's there's yeah, there are other ways to do it. They're not

1559
01:52:56,639 --> 01:53:03,760
perfect, but neither is aggressive cookies that you're also feeding to

1560
01:53:02,159 --> 01:53:09,239
Facebook or whoever else because you're running it through their systems. It's

1561
01:53:05,440 --> 01:53:09,239
another thing to keep in mind.

1562
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:18,960
Yeah. >> All right. Well, let's leave it alone

1563
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:21,040
for now and then we'll go from there, I

1564
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:25,440
guess. >> I don't know, man. I I understand why

1565
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:28,639
his team wants to do this stuff, but I also understand the hesitation.

1566
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:32,480
>> Yeah, but like I said, there are other options. It's not like we're we're

1567
01:53:30,480 --> 01:53:35,280
saying I mean, we we might have said no at the time because we're such a small

1568
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:39,840
team. We can't just do everything all the time, but um

1569
01:53:38,159 --> 01:53:45,119
there's ways that you can track how well that campaign is working without being

1570
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:45,520
able to tie it down to a specific user.

1571
01:53:45,119 --> 01:53:50,960
>> Okay? >> Like it is possible. You can you can have flags in the URL that follow the

1572
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:56,480
process. >> And if if one of those like URL flagged

1573
01:53:54,800 --> 01:54:03,520
people that goes through does a purchase, >> it's just holding tallies.

1574
01:54:01,119 --> 01:54:07,199
>> Okay. So you like the advertising platform side should know how many

1575
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:12,800
people you served that ad to. >> Mhm. >> Our side should know how many people

1576
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:14,320
came to the site with that in the URL

1577
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:18,800
and then our side should know how many people checked out with that in the URL

1578
01:54:16,639 --> 01:54:22,880
and then you have your three data points and like ideally that's enough and then

1579
01:54:20,719 --> 01:54:26,080
we're not feeding it through Meta or whoever else. Um

1580
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:30,960
>> Amaker asks are you just putting yourself at a commercial disadvantage by

1581
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:39,199
trying to be ethical about this? Yes, but like we often do and that's

1582
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:40,800
something we've decided to do. And I

1583
01:54:39,199 --> 01:54:45,480
think I think that should almost potentially uh reflect

1584
01:54:46,639 --> 01:54:51,679
I'm just going to skip.

1585
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:55,520
>> All right. In some other cool news, >> you guys can come up with your own

1586
01:54:52,960 --> 01:55:00,560
morality on that one. The first Tesla semi-truck from their Gigafactory Nevada

1587
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:07,199
highvolume production line has officially rolled off the line. The semi

1588
01:55:03,679 --> 01:55:09,280
is a little late. It was first unveiled

1589
01:55:07,199 --> 01:55:15,840
in 2017 with an original promised production date of 2019.

1590
01:55:12,159 --> 01:55:17,599
Okay, a little late, but it's here. It

1591
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:21,840
is worth noting this is not the first semi to be produced. A handful were

1592
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:27,360
delivered to PepsiCo in late 2022, but those were essentially like handbuilt on

1593
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:29,119
a pilot line. This time, we're talking

1594
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:33,119
mass-produced units with an expected annual production capacity of 50,000

1595
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:36,239
trucks. Although, it is worth noting that that will have to ramp up over the

1596
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:42,320
next few years. >> Doesn't mean anything. >> And it doesn't mean anything because

1597
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:44,400
Tesla lies constantly. But but but this

1598
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:50,159
is, as far as we can tell, truthfully, the mass production line. These trucks

1599
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:52,400
have a range of 325 m or 500 m depending

1600
01:55:50,159 --> 01:55:57,119
on whether they are the standard or long range model. And that is apparently

1601
01:55:54,560 --> 01:56:03,199
fully loaded, though it's not clear in our notes what exactly fully loaded

1602
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:09,840
means. There's definitely degrees of loaded for semi-truckss. They support

1603
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:13,280
Tesla's mega charger, which is 1.2

1604
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:17,040
megawatt charger. I

1605
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:21,199
could they not have done 1.21? 21.

1606
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:22,639
They were so close. 1.21 megaww.

1607
01:56:21,199 --> 01:56:29,280
>> Yeah, it would be pretty sick. >> And that does that'll restore 60% of the

1608
01:56:26,159 --> 01:56:31,679
truck's range in 30 minutes. Cost on the

1609
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:38,360
long range model. And this is what makes this good news show. Cost on the long

1610
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:38,360
range model is expected to be $290,000.

1611
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:44,320
That >> do we have a reference point for other semi trucks?

1612
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:46,320
>> Oh, they're really expensive. I know >> they're so expensive.

1613
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:51,119
>> That was my grandpa's job. >> And like the maintenance and the dealer

1614
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:55,280
network and just the like old boys club of everything, the financing,

1615
01:56:53,199 --> 01:56:58,960
>> crazy loans. >> $290,000

1616
01:56:57,679 --> 01:57:05,280
for something >> that is going to have sure all the

1617
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:08,159
disadvantages of an electric vehicle, right? Like these batteries will

1618
01:57:06,639 --> 01:57:13,760
eventually wear out and you have to charge and blah blah blah blah blah. But

1619
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:15,599
that will also have the advantages

1620
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:21,760
of an electric vehicle and that you're using simple electric motors.

1621
01:57:19,599 --> 01:57:26,960
Not okay, sorry, not simple, but relatively lowmaintenance electric

1622
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:28,719
motors. Dude, this thing looks freaking

1623
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:33,760
awesome. I am uh I am I'm like kind of stoked on

1624
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:39,520
it. To be clear, I don't think that the Tesla Semi is going to be taking over

1625
01:57:35,599 --> 01:57:41,280
long haul trucking anytime

1626
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:44,080
>> in the foreseeable future. >> There's a ton of trucking that isn't

1627
01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:51,360
long haul trucking. >> Yes. And >> that's okay. >> And and what's kind of cool about this

1628
01:57:48,159 --> 01:57:53,760
is for semis, I can actually see the

1629
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:57,440
range being less of an issue, especially for companies that are somewhat

1630
01:57:55,280 --> 01:58:01,280
integrated where they can build in charging infrastructure at the various

1631
01:57:59,920 --> 01:58:03,840
docks that they're going to be visiting. cuz it said 60% in half an hour, right?

1632
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:10,000
>> Mhm. >> If you're doing an unload or load, >> well, that wouldn't get a lot of char.

1633
01:58:07,679 --> 01:58:14,960
>> You wouldn't have a mega charger at like your warehouse.

1634
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:18,719
>> But if every time you docked, you would be able cuz I mean you like your

1635
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:23,119
transformer for your for your warehouse building like simply will not have that

1636
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:24,800
level of unless you went out of your way like you're not going to have a mega

1637
01:58:24,239 --> 01:58:29,360
charger. >> Sorry. Sorry. Specifically mega charger. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess it won't do that

1638
01:58:27,679 --> 01:58:34,080
rate but still you could plug into something. >> Yes. But but the way that I see it is as

1639
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:38,400
long as this thing is charged in the morning >> as you're going around to, you know,

1640
01:58:36,719 --> 01:58:42,400
your bottling, let's use Pepsi as an example, just because they were one of

1641
01:58:40,239 --> 01:58:45,360
the first customers for the Tesla Semi. So, you're going around to your various

1642
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:49,599
ports of call. You're going to like the bottling depot here. You're dropping off some, you're making some drop offs at a

1643
01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:54,880
distribution hub here, you're going back to the bottling depot. If at every one of those or at or at some of those at

1644
01:58:53,119 --> 01:58:58,800
the at the ones that you own, you're able to plug in while things are are

1645
01:58:56,960 --> 01:59:03,280
loading and and being unloaded >> a little bit more, >> you can you can juice yourself up a

1646
01:59:01,599 --> 01:59:07,760
little bit over the course of the day. And if you're mostly doing local

1647
01:59:05,199 --> 01:59:15,199
distribution runs, this is just going to be so huge for everything from noise to

1648
01:59:11,679 --> 01:59:17,119
urban smog to just convenience for

1649
01:59:15,199 --> 01:59:21,440
operators. It's like driving a big rig like like a like man. Did you know that

1650
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:24,800
some of them have like two stick shifts? >> I didn't know about the two. Yeah,

1651
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:30,159
>> I didn't know you can like slip gears on purpose and there's all this like

1652
01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:33,040
>> like driving a truck is nonsimple.

1653
01:59:30,159 --> 01:59:38,400
>> If it could be if it could be one one pedal driving semis like if we could

1654
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:42,960
lower the barrier to entry for for operating these vehicles.

1655
01:59:40,719 --> 01:59:45,760
Lower the mental load of operating them so you can be more focused on the road.

1656
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:50,960
>> All right. The barrier to entry thing spooks me because of the amount of opened tin cans we've had in in BC of

1657
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:56,159
people hitting bridges. >> When I say okay, when I say lower the barrier to entry, I don't mean that we

1658
01:59:54,239 --> 01:59:58,719
need people who are less cognitively capable operating them. What I mean is

1659
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:04,400
that >> fewer fewer distractions. >> Sure.

1660
02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:07,360
>> Um I I just I see this as an absolute I see this as an absolute win.

1661
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:11,760
>> Yeah, it seems cool. I always have like a little bit of skepticism

1662
02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:14,560
um because of their track record on being

1663
02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:19,360
able to hit their targets and stuff like that, but these things just rolling off

1664
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:25,920
the line sounds great to me. >> Uh Tim asks, "How about maintenance?" I

1665
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:28,639
mean, look, a diesel engine is a super

1666
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:32,880
reliable engine. You know, like a like a Cumins diesel that you might find in a

1667
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:36,719
in a large truck. It's going to be pretty flipping reliable. Like those

1668
02:00:34,719 --> 02:00:39,920
Volvo trucks, they'll do a million miles, you know?

1669
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:44,400
>> And that's not even like that's not even like, whoa, you should get a free truck

1670
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:48,159
cuz it did a million miles, you know? Like remember that first car that that

1671
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:52,400
like traveling salesman or whatever who put a million miles on his car and the company gave him a new one. Like that's

1672
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:58,719
not that's not even like that remarkable, >> but uh actually, okay. A Hayago ego says

1673
02:00:56,960 --> 02:01:02,080
diesels used to be super reliable, but now they are not as good. Interesting.

1674
02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:09,679
>> Okay. >> Classic. >> Yeah. No. many such cases. >> No comment on that. I I I was not aware

1675
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:17,119
of that. From my understanding, big rigs do tend to be pretty reliable. Um Edison

1676
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:19,920
motors, hold on a second. Um but yeah, from a maintenance standpoint, I know

1677
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:27,360
that my experience with electric vehicles has been that it's relatively low. And I would imagine that especially

1678
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:28,400
on braking, these would just be

1679
02:01:27,360 --> 02:01:32,239
so much better. >> Breaking on one of these must be insane,

1680
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:35,599
>> right? >> Yeah. I mean, maybe I'm missing

1681
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:40,080
something here. Feel free to tell me if I'm missing something, but regenerative

1682
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:41,840
braking would be amazing for trucks, and they spend so much time idling and

1683
02:01:41,599 --> 02:01:47,440
stuff. >> Wonder if it's just relative. Wonder if it takes so much energy to get them

1684
02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:51,599
going that it's it's relative. I'm not sure.

1685
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:54,960
>> Um, okay. Hold on. >> Either way, neat. Cool. To be clear,

1686
02:01:54,159 --> 02:02:00,159
>> see it when it happens. >> Tesla's not the only player in the game. We actually I really I still need to go

1687
02:01:59,280 --> 02:02:06,840
>> these guys shipping. >> Check out these guys. is uh >> can you buy a semi-truck from them?

1688
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:06,840
>> Uh

1689
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:14,239
okay, so hybrid so diesel and battery.

1690
02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:15,520
So hybrid trucks could be a better approach to

1691
02:02:15,199 --> 02:02:22,239
>> idea >> to long range trucking and Edison Motors is a company that uh they they they're

1692
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:27,119
doing like an investment drive right now. Like I don't know what kind of

1693
02:02:24,320 --> 02:02:31,040
shape they're in right now. So this is not like an endorsement of the company

1694
02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:38,000
or anything like that. I I don't know enough to say one way or the other, but

1695
02:02:33,599 --> 02:02:41,880
I do I do love the idea of what they're

1696
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:41,880
doing. Um,

1697
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:49,520
uh, V&G Supernova says, "I thought semis used pneumatic braking, so regen braking

1698
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:56,320
wouldn't be that useful. Does the Tesla Semi not use regen braking?"

1699
02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:57,920
Regenerative braking

1700
02:02:56,320 --> 02:03:01,119
uses powerful regenerative braking across all three electric motors as

1701
02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:06,080
Yeah. Um yeah. No, no, no. Yeah, regular semis

1702
02:03:04,239 --> 02:03:11,679
do use pneumatic. A lot of them use air brakes, but no, the Tesla should be uh

1703
02:03:10,239 --> 02:03:16,800
should be using regenerative braking. Yeah. Yeah, it uses regenerative braking. So, that's kind of like the

1704
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:20,320
whole point of the Tesla Semi is that it is doing things differently to bring

1705
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:24,400
advantages that traditional semis do not.

1706
02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:28,159
Uh, Kitsuni Sensei says, "Most of your wishes for trucks are already reality

1707
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:34,480
outside of North America." This is this is true. Uh, electric trucks in um like

1708
02:03:32,639 --> 02:03:40,000
I I I remember seeing like a crazy number apparently in the last year there

1709
02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:45,360
were more electric trucks produced in China than the entire total addressable

1710
02:03:42,320 --> 02:03:47,840
market like the entire annual market for

1711
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:51,199
um fossil fuel and electric trucks in North America.

1712
02:03:48,719 --> 02:03:56,719
>> Wow. Um, so yes, electric trucks are definitely a thing, but guys, it's good

1713
02:03:54,320 --> 02:04:02,360
news. W show, can we just let a win be a win? Okay, there's more electric trucks

1714
02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:02,360
on the road.

1715
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:07,840
All right. Uh, what else we got? You want to pick

1716
02:04:07,119 --> 02:04:13,119
one? >> Sure. Let's jump through here.

1717
02:04:11,679 --> 02:04:17,280
>> I think I know what you might pick. I'm going to be ready for it. >> Is it just the next one?

1718
02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:22,560
>> Whatever you want. >> Right to repair. Repeal repelled. What a

1719
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:27,119
what a title. Colorado's consumer rights continue. Kick rocks corpose. Colorado's

1720
02:04:25,119 --> 02:04:31,440
consumer rights right to repair digital electronics equipment law took effect in

1721
02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:35,760
January 2026 providing access to documentation and tools to repair or

1722
02:04:33,199 --> 02:04:40,239
modify electronics. However, a new bill was proposed that would create an

1723
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:46,719
exception for critical infrastructure, a term that advocates uh

1724
02:04:44,159 --> 02:04:51,760
that advocates feel is too loosely defined. The bill was supported by

1725
02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:58,080
lobbyists for Cisco and IBM and passed unanimously through the Colorado Senate

1726
02:04:54,400 --> 02:05:00,800
really but was shot down in a 7 to4 vote

1727
02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:05,119
by the Colorado House's state civic military and veteran affairs committee.

1728
02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:10,880
The core arguments from Cisco representatives claimed that there was

1729
02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:13,520
potential cyber security risks

1730
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:17,360
to what uh what's to stop bad actors from using those tools to reverse

1731
02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:22,239
engineer internet routers? I mean lots of Okay, carry on.

1732
02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:25,520
>> Cyber security experts pointed out it doesn't really work like that. The vast

1733
02:05:24,159 --> 02:05:30,480
majority of hacks are carried out remotely and it is more likely the

1734
02:05:27,920 --> 02:05:33,920
victims of hacks um that that need to make changes on the fly without

1735
02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:37,840
acquiring permission from manufacturers. >> Yes.

1736
02:05:35,679 --> 02:05:43,280
>> Yeah. Cool. Oh man, our discussion question

1737
02:05:40,159 --> 02:05:45,040
here is is there is there Oh, okay. No,

1738
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:49,840
I misread it. I thought it was wanting us to get into uh whether lobbying

1739
02:05:47,440 --> 02:05:52,239
should be a thing or not. No, we're definitely not approaching that on the

1740
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:55,280
WAN Show today. >> No. >> Uh I thought you were going to do this

1741
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:59,599
one. >> Oh, where is that one?

1742
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:03,760
>> Up a little higher. >> I see it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This week,

1743
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:08,560
Noctua announced that they now offer public 3D CAD models for all their fans.

1744
02:06:06,719 --> 02:06:13,119
You can find the files directly from their product download section, just

1745
02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:21,199
like any fan. Uh, sorry. Just find any fan such as the classic NFF12PWM.

1746
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:23,920
Oh, one sec. Go away. Uh, if you want to

1747
02:06:21,199 --> 02:06:28,560
download a step file to check it out, Sammy might have a 3D printed one for

1748
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:34,159
you to check out, which is here. >> Yeah, it is worth noting that this is

1749
02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:39,360
not going to allow you to make your own knock to a fan. This fan that Luke is

1750
02:06:37,520 --> 02:06:47,440
holding is not really a fan so much as it is a motor model of a fan. Yeah,

1751
02:06:42,320 --> 02:06:50,320
there's no motor in it. And um Noctua

1752
02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:54,079
says that they intentionally adjusted the geometry a little bit so that

1753
02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:57,920
cosmetically it looks like their fans, but if you were to 3D print your own fan

1754
02:06:56,400 --> 02:07:03,520
and actually put a motor in it, it would not achieve the same performance

1755
02:06:59,840 --> 02:07:06,400
characteristics. Um, you know, obviously

1756
02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:09,760
that wouldn't prevent anyone from just buying a real knock to a fan and

1757
02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:14,800
scanning it or whatever. A sophisticated enough counterfeitter uh would be able

1758
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:19,760
to make it without this anyway, but this is more for community members to have

1759
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:22,320
realistic looking Noctua products in their, you know, their renderings or

1760
02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:28,800
whatever else. >> Sure. >> So, yeah, I think I don't know. I just I just I just thought it was pretty cool.

1761
02:07:27,040 --> 02:07:35,280
>> Sweet. >> Exactly. In other sweet news, Libropods

1762
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:41,440
no longer requires root for some features. So, Libropods, if you're not

1763
02:07:37,599 --> 02:07:44,400
familiar, is a way to use AirPods on

1764
02:07:41,440 --> 02:07:50,159
Android and have some of the uh Apple exclusive features accessible. The app

1765
02:07:47,119 --> 02:07:53,440
now works without root privileges on

1766
02:07:50,159 --> 02:07:55,040
Google Pixels um running Android 16

1767
02:07:53,440 --> 02:07:59,360
March update or later with the latest Play System update. Uh, Google Pixels

1768
02:07:57,440 --> 02:08:03,760
running Android 17 beta 3 or above. Okay, hold on. I'm a little confused by

1769
02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:08,079
those two. Uh, are my do I have a problem with my

1770
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:11,800
notes? Control F pixel.

1771
02:08:11,840 --> 02:08:19,040
Okay. Well, mileage may vary on those two. OnePlus

1772
02:08:17,199 --> 02:08:23,920
devices that are running oxygen OS 16 and above. OPPO devices on Color OS 16

1773
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:30,320
and above. And Realme devices on Realme UI 7.0 toe and above. You can now get

1774
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:36,960
the following features without root noise control modes, ear detection,

1775
02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:39,679
battery status, head gestures, and

1776
02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:43,199
conversational awareness. There are a few more features that Libra Pod

1777
02:08:41,199 --> 02:08:46,800
supports, but still require root, and that's hearing aid mode, customized

1778
02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:51,840
transparency mode, and multi-device connectivity. Honestly, they've nailed

1779
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:54,560
down most of the stuff that I would

1780
02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:59,760
think I would need. The app is free on the Play Store, but does require an

1781
02:08:56,560 --> 02:09:01,360
inapp purchase of €5 in order to unlock

1782
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:06,800
all functionality. I think I actually bought it a while ago. I just need to

1783
02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:11,679
check. Um, it's my uh my Galaxy phone is

1784
02:09:06,800 --> 02:09:14,960
still not on the list, but I am very

1785
02:09:11,679 --> 02:09:18,400
very ready to have more

1786
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:21,040
more Libra Pods goodness.

1787
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:26,639
Man, it's amazing how many updates like modern platforms make to make them

1788
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:30,639
supposedly faster and yet they are so slow. Like I remember when

1789
02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:33,760
>> it's a lot of updates are not for speed. >> YouTube updated their dashboard. They

1790
02:09:32,239 --> 02:09:37,440
claimed it was all about speed. It is still slower than it ever was. Like the

1791
02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:43,199
creator dashboard and like graphs and everything. Like hello. Can we can I

1792
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:46,480
search for something? Anyway, not right now apparently. H what else we got

1793
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:50,679
today? Um, let's see.

1794
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:59,199
Boink pentathlon. The LCT Boink team will be competing in the seventh Boink

1795
02:09:56,079 --> 02:10:02,480
Pentathlon running from 17th. That makes

1796
02:09:59,199 --> 02:10:04,880
more sense. Uh, running from May 5th to

1797
02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:08,800
19th in this event. We'll go up against other tech communities contributing

1798
02:10:06,480 --> 02:10:14,079
computing power through Boink to support scientific research and progress. Last

1799
02:10:11,119 --> 02:10:18,000
year, LT placed in second overall. Our goal this year is to take home the gold.

1800
02:10:16,639 --> 02:10:22,719
If you want to join the competition and support science, you can find the details and sign up on the thread on the

1801
02:10:21,679 --> 02:10:27,599
forum. >> Oh, I finally have a use for my computer. I will compete this year with

1802
02:10:25,599 --> 02:10:30,639
you guys. >> Here's all the details. There will be

1803
02:10:29,119 --> 02:10:33,440
prizes. Oh, wow. There's community donated prizes.

1804
02:10:32,639 --> 02:10:37,760
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Steam keys. Uh yeah. Well, we're

1805
02:10:35,679 --> 02:10:43,280
providing some prizing, too, right? >> We better be. >> We better be. Well, we're on it. We'll

1806
02:10:40,719 --> 02:10:45,920
find some prizes. Don't worry about it. Uh, let me uh

1807
02:10:44,400 --> 02:10:53,679
>> I didn't see us in there, but we usually do. >> Yeah, I don't know. We'll we'll we'll get it done. Heck yeah. All right, cool.

1808
02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:58,079
Heck yeah. LT forum. >> And

1809
02:10:55,760 --> 02:11:04,000
Xbox mode begins rolling out to players on Windows 11 PCs.

1810
02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:06,000
Scroll. Today, Microsoft is expanding

1811
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:12,159
what used to be called the full screen experience on handhelds like the RG Xbox

1812
02:11:09,119 --> 02:11:15,440
Ally to all Windows 11 PCs, laptops,

1813
02:11:12,159 --> 02:11:17,199
desktops, tablets, etc. Xbox mode is a

1814
02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:20,719
full screen controller optimized interface that puts your game library

1815
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:25,840
front and center while minimizing background distractions. rolling out

1816
02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:31,440
gradually in select markets via Windows update. You can toggle it in settings,

1817
02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:37,040
then enter it with Windows and F11 from the game bar or by pressing the Xbox

1818
02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:41,199
button on a paired controller. >> Yeah. So, three different ways to

1819
02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:45,679
activate it. Discussion question. Is Xbox mode what Windows gaming should

1820
02:11:42,800 --> 02:11:48,000
have been all along? >> Yeah,

1821
02:11:47,199 --> 02:11:52,400
>> probably. >> Yeah. I mean, it's it's basically the

1822
02:11:50,480 --> 02:12:00,520
game folder from Windows Vista, but like way better.

1823
02:11:54,159 --> 02:12:00,520
Um, overall I like itish. Um,

1824
02:12:00,719 --> 02:12:09,520
in some ways it feels like it can be a little unnecessary because my entire

1825
02:12:06,800 --> 02:12:14,880
game library is in Steam pretty much. Uh, but if I was someone who had a game

1826
02:12:12,480 --> 02:12:21,040
library that spanned multiple launchers to a greater degree, then yeah, having

1827
02:12:18,239 --> 02:12:24,639
the the Xbox mode experience consolidate them all would have more of a value to

1828
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:29,599
me. >> I definitely have multiple launchers. >> Yeah.

1829
02:12:27,280 --> 02:12:33,599
>> Uh, I mean, especially with Yeah, I might. Especially with um new Assassin's

1830
02:12:31,920 --> 02:12:38,800
Creed, not new Assassin's Creed, the new Assassin's Creed remaster coming and

1831
02:12:35,280 --> 02:12:42,079
stuff. It's definitely a little bit, you

1832
02:12:38,800 --> 02:12:43,599
know, full of game pass and stuff,

1833
02:12:42,079 --> 02:12:47,520
>> but you don't have to click those buttons. So,

1834
02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:52,800
>> as they're there, they'll probably annoy me. >> Well, let's see. Let's see.

1835
02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:57,760
>> Uh, hey, speaking of things that are there and might not annoy you, Toyota's

1836
02:12:54,800 --> 02:12:59,760
limited edition $3,500 Crown gaming chair. Yeah.

1837
02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:03,360
>> I mean, is here. >> You know what does annoy me about this

1838
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:07,280
is I've >> I don't know, man. I don't fit a lot of

1839
02:13:05,119 --> 02:13:08,800
chairs. Just being honest.

1840
02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:15,360
>> Mhm. >> I don't. So, I saw this and was like,

1841
02:13:11,520 --> 02:13:17,679
"No way. Let's go. I want the purchase

1842
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:22,639
page right now." And then I saw the price and I was like, "Well, someone

1843
02:13:20,239 --> 02:13:26,159
will have fun with that." >> It looks

1844
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:28,960
pretty fancy. >> I love that there's actually a

1845
02:13:28,239 --> 02:13:37,920
>> USBC. >> I didn't notice that when I first looked at it. That is actually so funny. Um,

1846
02:13:34,560 --> 02:13:40,480
sorry. My uh my zoom wait. My zoom is

1847
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:46,320
being a little funky. Uh here, hold on. I'm 100%. Yeah. Why is it $3500

1848
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:51,520
though? >> It's like the crown collection. Like the price of two monitors.

1849
02:13:49,760 --> 02:13:54,000
>> Oh my two.

1850
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:58,239
>> That's so painful. >> Heating. >> Cooling sounds pretty cool.

1851
02:13:56,880 --> 02:14:05,920
>> The cooling sounds incredible. >> The cooling sounds amazing. Um

1852
02:14:02,639 --> 02:14:07,280
I don't know what I would do with this.

1853
02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:10,800
>> You know what my chair at home is right now? >> Charging, I guess, cuz it wouldn't be

1854
02:14:09,280 --> 02:14:14,159
data. Like, it wouldn't be connected to my computer. >> Don't answer that, Luke. We got a merge

1855
02:14:13,280 --> 02:14:20,000
message for later. >> Wait. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, wait. >> For some reason,

1856
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:22,159
>> what's in the caboose?

1857
02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:24,239
>> Uh, is that all the like is that the like

1858
02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:28,400
>> Oh, does it >> stuff for the heating and cooling? >> Is that the junk?

1859
02:14:26,480 --> 02:14:31,760
>> Wait, so you like this needs to be like plugged in. >> Oh, I'm sure.

1860
02:14:30,320 --> 02:14:36,880
>> Right. Which makes sense. Yeah. Heating and cooling. Wow. You know, I I want to

1861
02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:39,840
try it. Is it Japan only, though? >> I think it's Japan only.

1862
02:14:38,320 --> 02:14:48,159
>> Just Just you know, >> there's only about 70 units being made.

1863
02:14:43,199 --> 02:14:51,760
>> H Why, man? Ah,

1864
02:14:48,159 --> 02:14:55,040
what? Okay. My question is, if you're

1865
02:14:51,760 --> 02:14:58,560
going to put the work into creating it,

1866
02:14:55,040 --> 02:15:01,760
why so few? You know, there's more than

1867
02:14:58,560 --> 02:15:02,880
70 people who'd be like Toyota gaming

1868
02:15:01,760 --> 02:15:11,679
chair and just do it. >> 3500 >> more than 70 for sure. Come on.

1869
02:15:09,280 --> 02:15:14,000
>> Toyota fanboys with money. >> And the Toyota Crown,

1870
02:15:12,800 --> 02:15:18,159
>> you know, they didn't spend that much on their car. So, >> the Toyota Crown is one of those like

1871
02:15:16,320 --> 02:15:20,480
super fancy cars, right? >> Uh I actually

1872
02:15:19,599 --> 02:15:27,400
>> I'm pretty sure it is. >> Don't know what's a Toyota Crown.

1873
02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:27,400
>> I thought they were really nice.

1874
02:15:28,639 --> 02:15:35,679
Yeah, it according to AI, the Toyota Crown Hybrid sedan starts at around

1875
02:15:33,920 --> 02:15:40,159
55,000 Canadian dollars.

1876
02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:43,760
So, no, not even. Like I said, they bought a Toyota, so they clearly didn't

1877
02:15:41,840 --> 02:15:48,719
overpay for their car, so they can afford a fancy chair, I guess. I don't

1878
02:15:46,719 --> 02:15:52,960
know. >> Is this a plug-in hybrid?

1879
02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:57,920
>> Is it? >> What? The chair? >> No, the car. >> Oh. Oh, I'm

1880
02:15:55,760 --> 02:16:02,239
>> so a hybrid system. >> If it doesn't say plug-in hybrid, then

1881
02:16:00,239 --> 02:16:06,719
it's just a regular hybrid. >> Powertrains, limited models, blah blah.

1882
02:16:04,159 --> 02:16:08,800
Hybrid system, turbocharged, hybrid, max. Yeah. No, no, they're hybrid, not

1883
02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:12,599
plugging hybrid. >> Damn. >> Sorry, Luke.

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one by users across 14 IT management categories on G2 in the spring of this

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year and is used by over 35,000 customers across more than 140

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02:18:09,760 --> 02:18:15,679
countries. And the best part, you don't have to take my word for any of it. You

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02:18:13,439 --> 02:18:19,599
can try it for free with no credit card, no sales pressure. Just go to

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02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:25,760
ninjawone.com or click the link in the description to start your free trial.

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We got a couple more topics still, too. Do we?

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>> A bank robber is trying to get out of his conviction by claiming that geoence

1918
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warrants are a violation of his constitutional rights. This is down in

1919
02:18:34,719 --> 02:18:40,559
the states. The Supreme Court is hearing this case on whether a geoence warrant

1920
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violates the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches.

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02:18:42,800 --> 02:18:50,559
>> What is that? >> The case uh well, here we'll get to it. The case stems from a 2019 bank robbery

1922
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in Richmond, Virginia, where a man made off with $195,000.

1923
02:18:53,439 --> 02:19:01,840
Police had no leads until they served a geoence warrant on Google, which handed

1924
02:18:59,200 --> 02:19:06,240
over location data for every device that was in the area around the time of the

1925
02:19:04,399 --> 02:19:11,280
robbery, which eventually led to the man's arrest when they found a bunch of

1926
02:19:08,800 --> 02:19:15,280
cash with them. So context of geoffence warrants if you

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02:19:13,200 --> 02:19:19,599
need it. It's police draw a virtual circle around a crime scene, pick a time

1928
02:19:17,519 --> 02:19:23,280
window and then ask a tech company like Google to hand over data on every device

1929
02:19:21,519 --> 02:19:28,639
that was inside that circle during that time. Practical usage tends to follow

1930
02:19:25,920 --> 02:19:32,240
these stages. Initial sweep gives police anonymized location pings and timestamps

1931
02:19:30,639 --> 02:19:36,160
for every device within the circle identified only by numerical IDs. Police

1932
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then flag any devices that look suspicious based on movement patterns

1933
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:43,519
and go back to the tech company with a follow-up request to unmask those

1934
02:19:42,160 --> 02:19:47,359
specific accounts, getting the email addresses, phone numbers, and usernames

1935
02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:50,880
that are tied to them. In the case of Google, this data comes from Google's

1936
02:19:48,960 --> 02:19:54,560
location history feature, which technically requires you to opt in, but

1937
02:19:52,960 --> 02:19:59,040
most people who use Google Maps or other Google services are already sharing this

1938
02:19:56,479 --> 02:20:03,280
information. So, the plaintiff's lawyer argued that even anonymized location

1939
02:20:01,280 --> 02:20:06,399
data acts like a type of fingerprint since your specific moving pattern

1940
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:10,560
movement patterns can be used to identify you. The DOJ countered that

1941
02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:14,640
location data just represents public movements that anyone could observe. So,

1942
02:20:12,560 --> 02:20:18,560
the Fourth Amendment defense shouldn't apply. Uh, the discussion question here

1943
02:20:16,640 --> 02:20:22,240
is that the justices seem split and generally reluctant to wait into how the

1944
02:20:20,479 --> 02:20:25,240
Fourth Amendment operates in today's world.

1945
02:20:25,359 --> 02:20:33,760
This one is complicated.

1946
02:20:30,800 --> 02:20:36,960
>> Yeah. Why do criminals keep bringing identifiable phones to crime scenes?

1947
02:20:35,840 --> 02:20:43,520
>> Yeah. >> A very complicated question that I really will never understand. But then

1948
02:20:40,399 --> 02:20:47,520
also also

1949
02:20:43,520 --> 02:20:50,640
why am I able to be tracked

1950
02:20:47,520 --> 02:20:53,840
in a personal personally identifiable

1951
02:20:50,640 --> 02:20:56,479
way by something that supposedly cares

1952
02:20:53,840 --> 02:21:00,560
about my privacy. >> Yeah, I don't like that. But then

1953
02:20:58,000 --> 02:21:05,760
counter counterpoint if you're an do well taking money that

1954
02:21:03,439 --> 02:21:08,800
ultimately you know we all pay for like I'm not an American and I don't bank at

1955
02:21:07,280 --> 02:21:13,840
that bank so I have nothing to do with like that specific case but at the end

1956
02:21:10,720 --> 02:21:15,439
of the day we all pay for crime like

1957
02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:18,880
society um

1958
02:21:16,880 --> 02:21:22,640
>> do I mind if >> everyone there got their information

1959
02:21:21,200 --> 02:21:27,359
flagged and taken by the government >> but then counter counter counter point

1960
02:21:25,359 --> 02:21:31,439
yes to Luke's point that's exact what the lawyer's arguing >> and who's defining how big the circle

1961
02:21:30,399 --> 02:21:38,720
is. >> So, what if they're like, "There was a bank robbery in North Vancouver. What if

1962
02:21:36,560 --> 02:21:44,160
what if we circled the entire greater Vancouver area and just grabbed

1963
02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:49,840
everything and use this data for multiple other things going on and also

1964
02:21:46,319 --> 02:21:51,920
so I can track my wife's phone to see if

1965
02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:54,000
she's going somewhere that I don't like or I'm not going to tell anyone that I

1966
02:21:53,439 --> 02:21:57,760
just did that." >> What if there was no bank robbery? What if there was a protest?

1967
02:21:57,439 --> 02:22:04,359
>> Yeah. >> Now all of a sudden it can become a tool for government crackdown.

1968
02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:16,160
>> I actually do not envy the Supreme Court

1969
02:22:12,640 --> 02:22:20,720
justices as they navigate this one.

1970
02:22:16,160 --> 02:22:22,560
To be clear, I have no pity for buddy

1971
02:22:20,720 --> 02:22:27,439
who got busted stealing a bunch of money from a bank.

1972
02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:34,479
just desserts. However, the methods do matter if you

1973
02:22:31,680 --> 02:22:40,560
want to even maintain the branding of having a free society.

1974
02:22:37,439 --> 02:22:42,080
And this one is complicated.

1975
02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:46,399
>> They're just exercising their freedom to all of your information and data, knowing where you are all the time.

1976
02:22:44,880 --> 02:22:51,439
>> Oh. Oh, that's what you think freedom is. >> It's just it's just freedom.

1977
02:22:49,359 --> 02:22:55,920
I don't know what you're talking about. >> Yeah, man. freedom is uh it's she's a

1978
02:22:54,000 --> 02:23:02,080
complicated she's a complicated concept. I read a really interesting essay

1979
02:22:57,359 --> 02:23:04,240
recently on the um the ways that the

1980
02:23:02,080 --> 02:23:09,359
word and the concept of freedom have been kind of perverted

1981
02:23:06,479 --> 02:23:14,319
um from the way that a lot of people kind of intended them in the in the in

1982
02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:19,439
the in the creation of sort of the the western model of free society.

1983
02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:22,319
>> Sure. and how they've become kind of

1984
02:23:19,439 --> 02:23:30,479
divorced from the responsibilities that accompany that freedom and how we're not

1985
02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:33,840
sure if that freedom will survive. Um,

1986
02:23:30,479 --> 02:23:36,479
an unwillingness to also

1987
02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:41,120
exercise the freedom responsibly and be a part of be a part of that functioning

1988
02:23:39,439 --> 02:23:45,920
free society. It's a really interesting essay. I wish I could find the link for

1989
02:23:43,040 --> 02:23:49,280
you guys, but um yeah, fascinating. It doesn't come to a conclusion because

1990
02:23:47,840 --> 02:23:53,280
it's because it's complicated. >> Archangel of death said, "As the saying

1991
02:23:51,200 --> 02:23:56,960
goes, your freedom ends when the freedom of the big corporation and government

1992
02:23:55,120 --> 02:24:02,960
starts or something like that." >> Yeah, sure.

1993
02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:07,920
Just so that everyone's clear, Archangel of Death meant that with a big fat

1994
02:24:05,120 --> 02:24:11,520
slashs. Okay, relax. >> Sometimes.

1995
02:24:10,160 --> 02:24:15,680
Well, yeah, but >> your freedom to have your IP not ripped

1996
02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:17,840
off just got obliterated by every single AI company on the planet.

1997
02:24:17,200 --> 02:24:23,600
>> Well, yes. >> Oh, >> Luke, it's good news. Wow.

1998
02:24:22,720 --> 02:24:30,880
>> Right. Okay, >> calm down. >> Next topic. >> Android developers are revoling against

1999
02:24:28,319 --> 02:24:34,880
Google's 2026 sideloading registration mandate. Starting September 2026, Google

2000
02:24:33,600 --> 02:24:39,040
is fundamentally changing how sideloading works on Android. Right now,

2001
02:24:37,520 --> 02:24:43,280
installing an app from outside the Play Store is as simple as downloading an APK

2002
02:24:40,960 --> 02:24:47,280
and tapping install. Sort of. You have to enable unknown developers, whatever.

2003
02:24:45,280 --> 02:24:50,800
Whatever. Whatever. But sort of. Under the new rules, every developer, even

2004
02:24:49,200 --> 02:24:54,000
hobbyists and open source contributors who never touch the Play Store, must

2005
02:24:52,399 --> 02:24:59,439
register with Google, verify their identity with governmentissued ID, register their app signing keys, agree

2006
02:24:56,800 --> 02:25:04,000
to Google's terms, and pay a $25 fee. If they don't, their app gets silently

2007
02:25:01,760 --> 02:25:10,240
blocked from installing on any certified Android device. Google says that power

2008
02:25:07,120 --> 02:25:12,560
users can still install unverified apps,

2009
02:25:10,240 --> 02:25:15,680
but the new advanced flow requires enabling developer mode by tapping the

2010
02:25:14,080 --> 02:25:19,840
build number seven times, navigating through multiple setting screens, and

2011
02:25:17,439 --> 02:25:26,399
waiting out a mandatory 24-hour cooling off period. Over 37 organizations,

2012
02:25:23,359 --> 02:25:28,240
including the EFF, Foid, Proton,

2013
02:25:26,399 --> 02:25:32,479
Nextcloud, and the Tour Project, have signed an open letter demanding that

2014
02:25:29,760 --> 02:25:36,800
Google reverse course. Foid calls the mandate existential since its entire

2015
02:25:34,720 --> 02:25:41,200
model relies on volunteer and pseudonmous developers who have no

2016
02:25:39,439 --> 02:25:45,120
reason or desire to register with Google. The rollout starts in Brazil,

2017
02:25:43,439 --> 02:25:50,240
Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand with a global expansion planned for 2027.

2018
02:25:47,840 --> 02:25:56,080
Custom ROMs like Graphine OS and Lineage OS are unaffected.

2019
02:25:54,080 --> 02:25:59,520
Discussion question. If installing an app on your own phone now requires a

2020
02:25:57,920 --> 02:26:03,600
24-hour waiting period in developer mode, can Google still call Android an

2021
02:26:01,680 --> 02:26:07,840
open platform? >> I mean, I think they can still call it

2022
02:26:05,200 --> 02:26:11,520
whatever they want, but is it one? Um, I don't know. I think this is something

2023
02:26:09,359 --> 02:26:14,000
that would kind of push me to do the same thing I'm doing with Linux right

2024
02:26:12,720 --> 02:26:20,800
now on my phone, which is just try alternative options. >> Let me pitch you some food for thought.

2025
02:26:18,640 --> 02:26:25,520
With this change, would you be more comfortable recommending an Android

2026
02:26:22,160 --> 02:26:26,399
phone for your grandpa or grandma?

2027
02:26:25,520 --> 02:26:34,000
>> No. >> Really? I would. Straight up. 24-hour

2028
02:26:30,960 --> 02:26:38,880
waiting period for random APKs. The way

2029
02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:40,960
that scams work? Zero question.

2030
02:26:38,880 --> 02:26:51,200
Now, does that mean that I support the move? Not necessarily. I see lots of

2031
02:26:44,640 --> 02:26:54,240
problems with it, but I also can see a

2032
02:26:51,200 --> 02:26:56,479
good faith argument for why Google wants

2033
02:26:54,240 --> 02:27:02,319
to unmask developers on the platform. And they are still offering a way that

2034
02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:04,319
you can install anything.

2035
02:27:02,319 --> 02:27:10,000
>> A 24-hour waiting period would functionally kill the like, oh yeah,

2036
02:27:07,840 --> 02:27:13,280
Grandpa, just go here and install this and click through this and click through

2037
02:27:11,359 --> 02:27:15,040
this. I'll wait on the phone with you while you dump all of your life savings

2038
02:27:14,720 --> 02:27:20,399
into >> a lot of those scams are multi-day long. >> Okay. Not all.

2039
02:27:19,120 --> 02:27:25,680
>> That's totally fair. That's what you're >> It would make it so much more work.

2040
02:27:22,160 --> 02:27:29,760
>> Yes, it definitely would. I um I would

2041
02:27:25,680 --> 02:27:32,640
like to see this as a

2042
02:27:29,760 --> 02:27:36,080
feature >> that is like family management

2043
02:27:35,040 --> 02:27:40,319
controllable. >> Interesting. So like a fleet management

2044
02:27:38,240 --> 02:27:45,680
feature. Okay, so here's my question though because

2045
02:27:43,120 --> 02:27:50,960
who is the administrator of that though? Like as as a as a head of family like

2046
02:27:48,399 --> 02:27:53,439
techy dude, I hear that and I go, "Oh yeah, that totally makes sense. That's

2047
02:27:52,160 --> 02:28:01,399
how I would manage it through family link and I would do this and I would do that." But most people's structure is

2048
02:27:57,359 --> 02:28:01,399
not necessarily like that.

2049
02:28:02,800 --> 02:28:08,319
Like I can this is one of those ones where on the surface

2050
02:28:07,520 --> 02:28:14,960
>> I can see >> this feels like sacrificing freedom for security in a way that I do not like. Um

2051
02:28:12,560 --> 02:28:18,880
it does but I I think if you put that in the power of users, yeah, you'll still

2052
02:28:17,439 --> 02:28:26,240
lose some people because they're not going to have that type person in their family or whatever. But in my experience

2053
02:28:22,479 --> 02:28:28,800
of my my grandpa living far away in a

2054
02:28:26,240 --> 02:28:33,920
retirement village effectively, there was like an IT person thing. I don't

2055
02:28:32,560 --> 02:28:38,080
even know what I would call it. It was like the person that everyone in that

2056
02:28:36,319 --> 02:28:40,640
town because it was it was a pretty sprawling area, but it was a and

2057
02:28:39,520 --> 02:28:44,640
everyone had their own homes and stuff, but it was a retirement focused area. I

2058
02:28:43,120 --> 02:28:47,439
don't even know. I'm sure it has a name. I don't know what it is. Um

2059
02:28:46,160 --> 02:28:51,680
>> retirement community. >> Sure. Um and I don't know if this

2060
02:28:49,359 --> 02:28:58,080
person's shop was like on site in that community or not, but like just

2061
02:28:53,200 --> 02:28:59,920
everybody knew who he was. Um, and he

2062
02:28:58,080 --> 02:29:04,000
had a particular way of dealing with everyone, which was actually like kind

2063
02:29:01,920 --> 02:29:07,680
of neat because it was like the only person everybody really used. Word of

2064
02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:12,560
mouth was everywhere that like if you were have like if your laptop was screwed up, he'd just exchange you

2065
02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:15,359
>> and then fix yours and like sell it to somebody else or whatever. Like he was

2066
02:29:14,240 --> 02:29:20,640
pretty good about just like keeping people going. and he had basically like

2067
02:29:17,359 --> 02:29:22,319
team viewer on everyone's systems,

2068
02:29:20,640 --> 02:29:25,920
>> which I know, >> but he could tap in if he like needed to

2069
02:29:24,640 --> 02:29:29,680
help you with something cuz there would often be like, oh, there's something going on with whatever.

2070
02:29:28,160 --> 02:29:32,720
>> That's what our angel of death says. 24 hours is enough time for my elderly

2071
02:29:31,280 --> 02:29:36,160
family members to call me just to check if they're doing the right thing. I'm

2072
02:29:34,560 --> 02:29:43,280
still fundamentally against it for other reasons. And I think that actually summarizes sort of where I'm at right

2073
02:29:41,600 --> 02:29:45,840
now. I haven't had a lot of time to think about it. My reason for this very

2074
02:29:45,120 --> 02:29:48,960
long story >> Oh, sorry. >> Is whoever that dude was

2075
02:29:48,560 --> 02:29:53,840
>> Yeah. >> could maybe enable this thing for these people. >> But he was a good actor. What if he

2076
02:29:52,560 --> 02:29:56,560
wasn't? >> Yeah. >> Then disaster.

2077
02:29:56,160 --> 02:30:02,720
>> And >> I mean, if you're not a good actor and you're in that dude's position, this

2078
02:30:00,160 --> 02:30:06,720
24-hour window will not stop you. >> This is true. Fools and Horses has a

2079
02:30:04,880 --> 02:30:12,560
really good point and asks asks the question, has Android gotten so large

2080
02:30:10,160 --> 02:30:17,359
that the risk of being called negligent for allowing these things and for not

2081
02:30:14,880 --> 02:30:22,000
putting obstacles in the way is greater than the risk of their disgruntled

2082
02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:27,439
customers over this loss of freedom, loss of openness. Um, how much of the

2083
02:30:25,120 --> 02:30:31,359
market would they really lose? And I think that's got to be the question that

2084
02:30:29,520 --> 02:30:35,520
Google's asking themselves as they navigate this decision. And I I suspect

2085
02:30:33,840 --> 02:30:39,120
the answer for how many people they're going to lose is

2086
02:30:37,680 --> 02:30:44,240
extremely small. >> Yeah. >> Um

2087
02:30:42,000 --> 02:30:49,920
and and that's not like that's not me saying that I support the decision. I'm

2088
02:30:46,640 --> 02:30:52,160
just saying that that's the reality is

2089
02:30:49,920 --> 02:30:56,640
that most people are not even watching the WAN Show, not even aware of this,

2090
02:30:54,720 --> 02:31:03,120
would have never sideloadaded an APK anyway unless some rando told them to do

2091
02:30:59,680 --> 02:31:06,319
it, in which case this was probably a

2092
02:31:03,120 --> 02:31:10,960
thing. Um,

2093
02:31:06,319 --> 02:31:11,840
so Greak asks, "Why is this also?" Okay,

2094
02:31:10,960 --> 02:31:16,399
sorry, they're responding to someone else. Yeah, never mind. Um, yeah, Ann

2095
02:31:14,720 --> 02:31:21,200
White says it won't be zero, but yeah, it will be small. Uh, leaving one's most

2096
02:31:19,200 --> 02:31:24,560
experienced OS and just like switching is like kind of a pain. Like honestly,

2097
02:31:22,640 --> 02:31:29,200
that's why Ivonne's still on iOS. Not because she prefers it, but just after

2098
02:31:26,800 --> 02:31:33,680
she did the iPhone challenge, she's just like, uh, switching phones is such a

2099
02:31:31,439 --> 02:31:38,479
pain in the butt. It really is. And just I I do think it's going to be pretty

2100
02:31:35,600 --> 02:31:46,960
negligible. Arcomian says leave to what? iOS. I mean, graphine OS is an option.

2101
02:31:42,399 --> 02:31:48,240
iOS. Um, I saw I saw a cool uh this was

2102
02:31:46,960 --> 02:31:54,160
cool. This was not really good news enough to be good newsws W show, but um

2103
02:31:51,600 --> 02:31:58,880
Windows phone Android launcher someone's uh someone is working on or

2104
02:31:57,120 --> 02:32:02,960
um made Oh, no. Apparently this is old.

2105
02:32:01,120 --> 02:32:06,800
Just uh an Android launcher that like looks a lot like Windows Phone, which I

2106
02:32:04,960 --> 02:32:10,160
thought was pretty cool. Anyway, that's it. That was a little highlight for

2107
02:32:08,080 --> 02:32:14,080
that. I I don't think we're gonna reach a conclusion on this one because I don't

2108
02:32:12,240 --> 02:32:22,960
think that it's it's cut and dried. >> Sounds simple. >> I do I do appreciate Google's um

2109
02:32:20,479 --> 02:32:29,439
position that they are still allowing sideloading with these caveats. And for

2110
02:32:26,560 --> 02:32:33,120
me, for my use of Android, the handful of times that I've needed to sideloadad,

2111
02:32:31,439 --> 02:32:37,439
this would have been good enough. This would have been a minor inconvenience.

2112
02:32:34,640 --> 02:32:40,960
>> Where does the slope end? Are we on the slipper? So, so,

2113
02:32:39,359 --> 02:32:43,359
>> and I can't tell. I don't know that we are. I'm not trying to claim necessarily

2114
02:32:42,560 --> 02:32:49,600
that we are. >> I don't either. >> There are there are times where I have been like, "This is a slope." I don't

2115
02:32:47,680 --> 02:32:57,120
know that this one is, but it it smells like one. >> It Well, okay. In a vacuum, I would push

2116
02:32:54,319 --> 02:33:01,040
back. If this was the only change that Google had made to Android over the last

2117
02:32:58,800 --> 02:33:03,439
5 years, then I'd be like, "Luke, come on.

2118
02:33:01,840 --> 02:33:07,840
>> They've been good stewards. They've done this. They've done that."

2119
02:33:05,920 --> 02:33:12,000
In the context of everything that Google has done though with Chrome and with

2120
02:33:09,439 --> 02:33:17,840
Android um with their products in general over I mean the last while it's

2121
02:33:16,399 --> 02:33:20,399
a lot harder for me to do that. I they've lost my trust.

2122
02:33:19,520 --> 02:33:26,319
>> Yeah. >> And I think that's a big part of it is like they've there was a time when

2123
02:33:24,560 --> 02:33:31,120
Google might have done this and said trust me bro I got you. And I said okay

2124
02:33:28,800 --> 02:33:36,319
>> I would have I still have a little bit of that with them but not as much as

2125
02:33:32,640 --> 02:33:39,760
before. I I feel like they uh Let's

2126
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check in on Killed by Google.

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I feel like they've been slowing down, but I'm not sure.

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Okay, so 2026 and beyond is these. Oh,

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okay. Yeah, that's actually not that much >> compared to I mean 2024

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being like what all of this

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>> the postcoid time was a big was a time

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of a lot of consolidation for the big tech companies.

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>> God >> team sizes shrank projects were

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abandoned. It wasn't just Google at that time.

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>> Wow. Fascinating. Yeah. that Google is like

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the the corporate uh embodiment of throw

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02:34:28,479 --> 02:34:36,560
things at the wall and see what sticks, man.

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Yeah. And this next uh after dark

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segment is the embodiment of throw questions at us and producer

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>> Dan. He's a Rubbermaid bin shelf now. Oh, there he is. Uh throw questions at

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us and see what sticks.

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I have become square.

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Let me get us changed over uh after dark. And I have to push this button,

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too. Sorry, that came out of nowhere. I was unprepared.

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You good? Hey, LLD.

2146
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I've been thinking about this lately. badminton is super popular around the

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02:35:10,960 --> 02:35:19,280
world, but most pro players, aside from the very top, don't seem to make nearly

2148
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as much as athletes in other big sports.

2149
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I think about this a lot. So, take this

2150
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for the semi-informed

2151
02:35:27,040 --> 02:35:34,880
um rant that it kind of is. Um I think

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02:35:32,479 --> 02:35:40,000
it's a number of problems and I think that BWF uh so badminton world

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02:35:37,920 --> 02:35:44,160
federation is doing some things right to address it. Uh for for instance they

2154
02:35:42,319 --> 02:35:49,840
actually just recently changed the scoring format. So in the in the olden

2155
02:35:47,760 --> 02:35:55,520
days so I guess this ended ended in the '9s or early 2000s I think badminton was

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02:35:52,880 --> 02:35:59,680
done with service point. So that is that you can only score a point when you

2157
02:35:57,760 --> 02:36:06,319
begin the rally with the serve. Okay. So, it was service point um sets of 15

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02:36:03,600 --> 02:36:10,640
and then best of three sets. The problem with service point is that the games

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02:36:08,000 --> 02:36:14,960
would sometimes drag on forever. It was an enormous burden on the athletes. And

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02:36:12,640 --> 02:36:19,760
when you consider that often times during tournaments they're playing

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02:36:16,720 --> 02:36:21,920
backto back to back uh across subsequent

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02:36:19,760 --> 02:36:26,960
days, um it could put you at a major disadvantage if one of your if one of

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02:36:24,479 --> 02:36:31,680
your sets dragged on for a really long time because you have to win by two. So

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02:36:29,040 --> 02:36:38,800
a service point win by two means that you could just defensively carry things

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forever and it really rewarded endurance

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and less aggressive play. So it was changed to rally point so you can win a

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02:36:43,520 --> 02:36:49,920
point on any service whether it's yours or the other players. Um so I believe in

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the I believe in the 2000s. Don't quote me on that but I believe it was the 2000s to encourage a more aggressive

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02:36:54,319 --> 02:37:01,359
style of play but to make sure the matches weren't crazy short. It was

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changed to 21 points per set.

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02:37:01,359 --> 02:37:07,920
I think the 21 point service point or

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02:37:05,280 --> 02:37:13,760
excuse me 21 point rally point format still best of three was horrible for the

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02:37:11,520 --> 02:37:17,680
game, not for the players. The players like it and they actually from my

2174
02:37:15,439 --> 02:37:22,640
understanding still mostly like it and there's a lot of resistance to the new

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02:37:19,840 --> 02:37:28,479
scoring format which is 15 points rally point. Um,

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but why I think it's so detrimental to the sport is it's really boring to watch

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a 21point match. I mean, tell me how

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important in hockey, how important is the first goal to you as a player,

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>> right? Yeah. Extremely >> extremely important. From the opening

2180
02:37:44,399 --> 02:37:50,160
faceoff, from that moment, the entire game could be riding on the

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02:37:48,960 --> 02:37:54,479
line. There's also a significant amount of like fear at any point in time that something might happen which could

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02:37:53,280 --> 02:37:59,520
result in a goal. >> Okay. >> Like if you see if you're if you're you

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know if the the enemy team is in your team zone and you're a fan, you're

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02:38:01,760 --> 02:38:08,080
shaking in your boots >> at most stages of the game.

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>> Yes. Okay. So counterpoint. What if a

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hockey game was played to 21 goals?

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>> Yeah. You don't >> the first goal. Are you

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02:38:15,600 --> 02:38:20,319
>> almost doesn't matter. So what's happened and especially

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02:38:18,800 --> 02:38:27,359
>> you got to set the tone >> especially in a format that um is is

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like a seated bracketed tournament where your top seeds are playing against your

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02:38:29,600 --> 02:38:37,359
bottom seeds up until you reach realistically like the the round of 16

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or quarterfinals. Um you end up with a lot of boring play that no one cares

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about. Um because the first like little

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02:38:44,960 --> 02:38:51,359
bit of the game is everyone just kind of like settling in and then after that

2195
02:38:49,359 --> 02:38:55,359
you've got like a very obvious who's going to win and who's not going to win

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and there's very little upset in the rally point system because a better

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02:38:58,720 --> 02:39:04,319
player will just win more points and

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there's less like oh but hold on he could defend he could defend their

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service regain the serve and like like

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like scrape his way back into the game.

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You don't really get as many momentum swings and you get don't get as many

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02:39:16,720 --> 02:39:22,640
upsets and you get a lot of the game that's just kind of like people are the

2203
02:39:20,720 --> 02:39:27,600
players themselves are kind of tuned out. They're not going as hard and I

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02:39:25,359 --> 02:39:31,680
think it's really boring to watch. The other thing that contributes to

2205
02:39:28,800 --> 02:39:38,399
badminton being boring to watch is the camera is is the broadcast. The camera

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02:39:33,920 --> 02:39:40,160
angles suck. They do such a poor job.

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But I remember showing someone like a really high level badminton match at one

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02:39:41,920 --> 02:39:49,680
point and I'm going, "Well, why are they just like lobbing it to each other?" And

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I'm like, "Bro, if I hit those shots to

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you on a court and you like properly

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02:39:52,800 --> 02:40:00,240
understood from the actual movement how far they're going, they travel way

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02:39:57,680 --> 02:40:04,479
farther in way less time than top level tennis players, but you don't know that

2213
02:40:02,080 --> 02:40:07,600
from watching it. You can't tell like the sheer athleticism of the game is not

2214
02:40:06,479 --> 02:40:11,920
apparent from >> farther. I don't think that's true. >> Way farther. It's not even close. You

2215
02:40:10,720 --> 02:40:16,080
cannot think it's true, but it's >> in the amount of time. I think you're totally right. But the distance,

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>> it's not even close. >> I promise you. Men's sing. So, it's a

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men's singles to men's singles, like top level Olympic match comparison. Someone

2218
02:40:22,000 --> 02:40:26,560
did the math. >> Total distance moved. >> Total distance moved. >> Okay. I think Yeah, I think we're

2219
02:40:25,600 --> 02:40:32,720
talking about different things, but >> total distance moved is higher and it's

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02:40:29,520 --> 02:40:34,640
in less time. Both of those things. It's

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02:40:32,720 --> 02:40:37,359
crazy like what they're doing out there and the explosiveness of the movement.

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It's a great game. It's a wonderful game. Um, you can't tell the the the the

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02:40:41,760 --> 02:40:47,200
angles do it no service whatsoever. And especially the English- speakaking

2224
02:40:45,920 --> 02:40:51,840
commentators, they might as well be commentating golf.

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So, I'm coming around to my point finally. >> You should commentate a game.

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>> It'd be fun. >> I I'm not experienced. I'm not like I It

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would still be very amateur and like crappy and boring. Bring one, this is

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02:41:02,560 --> 02:41:10,319
how game casting does it. Bring one person on who? Bring one of the people

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02:41:07,520 --> 02:41:14,880
from Babon Insights and you

2230
02:41:12,160 --> 02:41:18,479
and then you have like you're the energy and they're the next person.

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02:41:17,280 --> 02:41:22,720
>> You know what? That's kind of an interesting idea. It's kind of an interesting idea. I kind of I kind of

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like the idea. >> Um anyway, I'm coming around to my point

2233
02:41:25,359 --> 02:41:33,040
here. So, you ask why the players aren't paid as much. And it's because, in my

2234
02:41:30,640 --> 02:41:38,720
humble opinion, I see a lot of resistance from the players to rule

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02:41:36,000 --> 02:41:41,920
changes that would make the game more entertaining to watch. Where does money

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come from? >> Interesting. >> It doesn't necessarily come from people

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02:41:45,520 --> 02:41:50,080
playing the game in their backyards. They'll go and they'll buy a racket from

2238
02:41:48,560 --> 02:41:54,160
Yonx or Victor or whatever. So there's revenue coming into the companies that

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02:41:52,080 --> 02:41:57,280
are that are sponsoring these events, but it's not necessarily attributable to

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the players. >> Yeah. >> It's not attributable necessarily to the broadcast except like you said to those

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very top players where the matches are interesting, where anyone could win. So

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I would actually like to see them go even farther in the reduction of points

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per set. I'd like to see something that's closer to like a tennis scoring

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system. Uh so for badminton because the rallies are generally shorter uh what

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I'd like to see is maybe like best of five sets but playing service point to

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like five points or seven points. So

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very very very short sets

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02:42:30,319 --> 02:42:37,680
but that have service point in order to give an opportunity for upset victories

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because realistically even if I'm a much

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better badminton player than you I could make three mistakes

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02:42:40,800 --> 02:42:45,439
>> if you know Yeah. I'm kidding. >> Yeah. But but I could make three

2252
02:42:44,240 --> 02:42:49,760
mistakes. >> Now the pressure's on. >> Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Right. You create tension. I want tension and I want excitement the whole

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02:42:52,399 --> 02:42:57,200
time I'm watching. Think about sports that are fun to watch that keep you on

2255
02:42:55,840 --> 02:43:00,640
the edge of your seat the whole time you're watching. Anything could happen.

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>> Yeah. It's Yeah, it's always tension. >> Bad doesn't achieve that.

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>> All the ideas your idea is very interesting. All the ideas I've been trying to think of while sitting here I

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02:43:07,280 --> 02:43:14,560
don't think work for the players at all. I had one where like if your rally gets

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02:43:11,680 --> 02:43:19,760
>> far enough in it starts it becomes like worth more or something

2260
02:43:17,120 --> 02:43:24,319
>> but like now you have players like counting on cords so it doesn't work.

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02:43:22,640 --> 02:43:26,399
>> It would be kind of fun as like a video game but it doesn't work as like a

2262
02:43:25,920 --> 02:43:32,720
sport. >> Yeah. Like and then and then if you get enough multiplier bonus you could have

2263
02:43:30,479 --> 02:43:38,080
you could nuke your opponent from orbit with the geo positioning laser. If you

2264
02:43:35,520 --> 02:43:44,160
if you go six six rally back and forth, you can like double jump.

2265
02:43:41,760 --> 02:43:46,479
>> You could do a special a special combo move.

2266
02:43:45,120 --> 02:43:49,600
>> Yeah. >> Um >> helicopter hit.

2267
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>> Yeah. So there, sorry, that's my extremely long answer to what I think is

2268
02:43:51,439 --> 02:43:59,040
wrong with badminton is it's not it's not fun enough to watch. >> A lot of sports have that problem.

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>> Yeah. It also has the problem of like

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02:43:59,040 --> 02:44:07,359
being very very multinational and therefore

2271
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um it being hard to get like good common

2272
02:44:07,359 --> 02:44:12,479
language interviews >> for your various geographies of

2273
02:44:11,680 --> 02:44:15,800
audience. >> Yeah. Um,

2274
02:44:16,000 --> 02:44:25,279
it's tough. It like it's it's a funny thing because in general I I I find

2275
02:44:21,680 --> 02:44:28,960
myself not liking the corporatization of

2276
02:44:25,279 --> 02:44:31,279
sports. Like it it kind of sucks that

2277
02:44:28,960 --> 02:44:34,479
Mlin Celibbrini doesn't play for the Vancouver Conucks given he's

2278
02:44:33,200 --> 02:44:37,120
from here. >> He's like the most exciting player in

2279
02:44:36,319 --> 02:44:44,520
hockey right now. >> Be pretty freaking cool if he did. >> I don't think I would mind that.

2280
02:44:40,240 --> 02:44:44,520
>> That would be awesome. Um

2281
02:44:45,920 --> 02:44:54,720
um and like the fact that Conor McDavid doesn't play for the Toronto Maple Leafs

2282
02:44:51,120 --> 02:44:56,560
is like, you know, kind of ridiculous.

2283
02:44:54,720 --> 02:44:59,439
Uh where where's where's Sid from? He's from he's from Nova Scotia, I think.

2284
02:44:58,240 --> 02:45:03,840
Right. So the fact that the Hartford Whalers don't get to still exist and Sid

2285
02:45:01,279 --> 02:45:08,000
plays for them, like come on, man. >> That was like Okay, so yeah, this is

2286
02:45:06,560 --> 02:45:11,040
very true with hockey where like Americans will be like, "Oh, well we

2287
02:45:09,920 --> 02:45:16,800
beat you." And it's like, yeah, your team has a lot of Canadians on it. But then baseball, you look at the Toronto

2288
02:45:15,040 --> 02:45:19,520
Raptors and it was like, >> it's like, oh, the Canadians finally

2289
02:45:18,160 --> 02:45:23,040
made it. It was like kind of >> Were there like two Canadians on the team or something?

2290
02:45:21,600 --> 02:45:28,240
>> Yeah, it's kind of a lot of Americans. >> So So as much as I So as much as I don't

2291
02:45:25,359 --> 02:45:33,680
love the corporatization of of sport where like the Vancouver Conucks is just

2292
02:45:30,720 --> 02:45:36,640
a brand. It has no meaning. Like there was at one point there was more Swedes

2293
02:45:35,279 --> 02:45:40,240
than Canadians on the team, which I don't mind. I have nothing against Swedes. I just

2294
02:45:38,960 --> 02:45:44,399
>> historically been a big thing for Vancouver to have a like disproportionate amount of

2295
02:45:42,640 --> 02:45:52,560
>> basically the Canucks were team Sweden at one point. >> Um and and so I don't like that.

2296
02:45:49,200 --> 02:45:56,319
>> But what that does a really good job of

2297
02:45:52,560 --> 02:45:59,520
is like getting people excited about,

2298
02:45:56,319 --> 02:46:01,840
you know, like their team. Whereas when

2299
02:45:59,520 --> 02:46:04,800
it's like the national team, if you don't happen to have a star player,

2300
02:46:03,439 --> 02:46:08,880
especially in a more individual sport like badminton, there's like kind of

2301
02:46:06,800 --> 02:46:14,960
nothing to cheer for. Whereas if you just, you know, had the, you know, the

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02:46:11,200 --> 02:46:17,600
Malaysia aces and, you know, the the the

2303
02:46:14,960 --> 02:46:22,319
the Canadian geese or, you know, like you had you you did more branding around

2304
02:46:19,520 --> 02:46:25,520
it, then yeah, I think there's then I think there's a chance to to

2305
02:46:24,560 --> 02:46:31,359
>> there's also >> to build long-term fandom. >> Yeah. Like people will identify like

2306
02:46:29,279 --> 02:46:36,000
they'll wear the hat, you know, like I'm a I'm a Chargers fan, you know, I'm a

2307
02:46:34,080 --> 02:46:41,040
Raptors guy. >> Nobody nobody very few people do that

2308
02:46:38,880 --> 02:46:44,000
except like on the court like they'll they'll wear like, you know, a jersey or

2309
02:46:42,640 --> 02:46:48,800
whatever for their favorite player, but there's not that that team branding. And

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02:46:46,640 --> 02:46:52,960
it works. It works. I don't make the rules. It works.

2311
02:46:51,040 --> 02:46:59,120
>> This is an ignorance thing. Is most of the world as interested in sports at all

2312
02:46:55,439 --> 02:47:00,800
as North America is? Oh dude. Yeah. Like

2313
02:46:59,120 --> 02:47:04,479
>> as a viewer, as a fan, >> dude. Like cricket in India, right?

2314
02:47:03,439 --> 02:47:07,680
>> It's crazy. >> Is that them having a massive massive

2315
02:47:06,479 --> 02:47:13,840
population? >> It's just crazy. >> Okay. >> And like dude, soccer.

2316
02:47:11,840 --> 02:47:18,160
>> Soccer South America. Yes. Spectator 100%. Hund the Brits.

2317
02:47:16,479 --> 02:47:24,640
>> Hyundai is pretty huge. >> Yeah. Huge.

2318
02:47:22,319 --> 02:47:29,200
>> Oh yeah. Yeah. Agent Renzo, Japan loves baseball, dude. the way that Japan just

2319
02:47:26,720 --> 02:47:32,880
kind of was like, "Oh, this American thing, nope, it's a Japanese thing now.

2320
02:47:31,200 --> 02:47:37,520
By the way, the greatest player on the face of the earth is Japanese. He's an

2321
02:47:35,200 --> 02:47:42,080
absolute god at absolutely everything." Like, Japan just exploded into the

2322
02:47:40,479 --> 02:47:45,840
baseball scene. That's been that's been wild to watch over my lifetime.

2323
02:47:43,680 --> 02:47:48,960
>> I just like whenever I'm traveling, literally anywhere that I've gone, I've

2324
02:47:47,520 --> 02:47:52,880
never been to India, but anywhere that I've gone, you don't see it.

2325
02:47:51,760 --> 02:47:58,880
>> H interesting. >> That's what I mean.

2326
02:47:56,160 --> 02:48:02,720
Like if if like in Canada, you go basically anywhere and you're going to

2327
02:48:00,720 --> 02:48:06,080
see somebody wearing something to do with some sports team. In America, same

2328
02:48:05,600 --> 02:48:10,880
deal. >> Would you necessarily recognize their sports attire?

2329
02:48:09,120 --> 02:48:14,240
>> Not necessarily. But usually sports attire has kind of a vibe.

2330
02:48:12,479 --> 02:48:17,760
>> It does. >> Solid color, big logo,

2331
02:48:15,920 --> 02:48:22,479
>> but I wouldn't I wouldn't necessarily >> There are definitely I I

2332
02:48:20,880 --> 02:48:25,840
guarantee you there are cricket teams. I would have no idea. Yeah.

2333
02:48:24,240 --> 02:48:30,240
>> Um, >> yeah. >> All right. Hit us, Dan. >> And sometimes some soccer jerseys just

2334
02:48:28,720 --> 02:48:36,160
look like an advertisement. >> This is true, but I can't tell.

2335
02:48:33,600 --> 02:48:41,120
>> Hey, DLL. Loving the cables. Do we have any news on DisplayPort or HDMI? Um,

2336
02:48:39,359 --> 02:48:45,840
the news is that we're working on development, but realistically, even if

2337
02:48:43,600 --> 02:48:50,399
we got our golden samples and signed off and said go, there's no production

2338
02:48:48,080 --> 02:48:55,920
capacity for them until we can somewhat catch up on USBC and USBA.

2339
02:48:54,240 --> 02:48:59,600
So, we're working on it. We're going to do it. They're not going to be the same.

2340
02:48:58,399 --> 02:49:04,560
So, they're going to be a little bit more rigid just because the conductors

2341
02:49:01,439 --> 02:49:05,840
are so thick. Um,

2342
02:49:04,560 --> 02:49:10,000
so they're they're going to have like a bit more like memory to them, but they're still going to have the same

2343
02:49:08,080 --> 02:49:14,240
outer sheath. So, they'll be super UV resistant and they'll have that kind of

2344
02:49:11,840 --> 02:49:18,399
that nice feel to them. Uh, and obviously the signal quality will be a

2345
02:49:16,399 --> 02:49:22,640
top priority. Uh, but they won't have quite the same flexibility. So, that's

2346
02:49:19,840 --> 02:49:27,920
something to watch out for. Hello, DLL. Steam frame hype. Oh, I

2347
02:49:25,439 --> 02:49:32,319
know. If it ever comes out, any opinion on the way Valve has handled the release

2348
02:49:29,680 --> 02:49:34,399
so far? Has Luke tried the controller? >> I have not.

2349
02:49:33,040 --> 02:49:37,600
>> Oh, yeah. You should You should borrow one just to try it out. It's It's

2350
02:49:36,080 --> 02:49:41,439
different. It's >> definitely better for people with big

2351
02:49:39,200 --> 02:49:44,640
hands than for people with my size mits. >> When I saw the imagery of it, I thought

2352
02:49:43,840 --> 02:49:48,000
that'd probably be true. >> She's a thick boy. >> The big pads, man. >> Yeah.

2353
02:49:47,200 --> 02:49:52,720
>> Yeah. >> Um, as for how Valve's handled the release

2354
02:49:51,520 --> 02:49:56,640
so far, I don't think Valve had a choice. Obviously, Valve would have

2355
02:49:54,720 --> 02:50:00,240
loved to have the Steam Controller and the Steam Machine and the Steam frame

2356
02:49:58,240 --> 02:50:04,240
come out at the same time. like no question. But

2357
02:50:02,160 --> 02:50:05,600
>> Rams already in the warehouse for the controller. He's got to start moving

2358
02:50:05,279 --> 02:50:11,279
them. >> Yeah. >> Um I I saw in your review the the thumb

2359
02:50:08,800 --> 02:50:13,439
collision thing. I suspect I'll have an issue with that.

2360
02:50:11,840 --> 02:50:16,000
>> Right. You don't love the symmetrical thumb sticks. Neither do I.

2361
02:50:14,960 --> 02:50:21,760
>> Really hate it. >> Neither do I. >> Really hate it.

2362
02:50:20,080 --> 02:50:26,560
Real bad, man. >> AF deal. It's great to watch live from

2363
02:50:24,399 --> 02:50:30,000
the UK. From your limited experience with it, would you say that the Steam

2364
02:50:28,160 --> 02:50:35,920
Machine will be worth the wait or bite the bullet and upgrade my i77700 K at

2365
02:50:33,040 --> 02:50:39,200
today's prices? There are some deals to be had on DRAM right now. I don't know

2366
02:50:37,920 --> 02:50:43,600
how long they're going to last. >> It's funny looking at them be like, "Oh,

2367
02:50:41,760 --> 02:50:48,560
it's whatever percentage off." It's like, yeah. >> Yeah. Don't ignore that. Just look at

2368
02:50:47,040 --> 02:50:53,359
the price. >> If you can snag a deal, I would snag the

2369
02:50:51,439 --> 02:51:00,000
deal you can snag and I wouldn't wait much longer. i77700 K is old enough that

2370
02:50:57,279 --> 02:51:06,080
um there are modern games that are going to benefit from a from a big upgrade for

2371
02:51:02,800 --> 02:51:08,800
you. I would go for it.

2372
02:51:06,080 --> 02:51:13,840
I Linus and team, are you still running an LG TV OLED as your work monitor? Any

2373
02:51:12,000 --> 02:51:17,120
annoyances you've come across and how did you fix them?

2374
02:51:15,200 --> 02:51:21,439
>> Um I am not anymore. The biggest annoyance

2375
02:51:19,680 --> 02:51:24,960
has got to be the auto brightness control as you go from from windowed

2376
02:51:23,760 --> 02:51:30,000
applications to full screen applications. There's not a ton that can

2377
02:51:27,439 --> 02:51:35,439
really be done about that. The monitor that I'm using for work right now is the

2378
02:51:32,000 --> 02:51:39,760
one that uh we did a sponsored LT for.

2379
02:51:35,439 --> 02:51:40,160
This thing is absolutely knucking futs.

2380
02:51:39,760 --> 02:51:46,800
>> Wa. >> It's 52 in 6K. And the way Dell markets

2381
02:51:42,880 --> 02:51:50,399
it is as like a 4K

2382
02:51:46,800 --> 02:51:52,319
um what's the size of the 4K they they

2383
02:51:50,399 --> 02:51:59,200
compare it to? I I don't remember. But basically it's like

2384
02:51:54,319 --> 02:52:01,359
>> 6144x 2560 at 120 Hz. This thing is

2385
02:51:59,200 --> 02:52:07,279
wild. So it's like having a 4K display and then like two 1080s flanking it. Um

2386
02:52:04,720 --> 02:52:13,200
and it's 52 in across. It's curved. It's got a built-in Thunderbolt hub. So, I

2387
02:52:09,680 --> 02:52:14,800
just roll up with my laptop, plug in,

2388
02:52:13,200 --> 02:52:19,760
and all my peripherals are ready to rock. My webcam, my mic, everything's

2389
02:52:16,720 --> 02:52:22,240
good to go. It's IPS, so there's no tom

2390
02:52:19,760 --> 02:52:27,359
foolery around like auto brightness and dimming and anything like that. It's

2391
02:52:24,399 --> 02:52:29,840
like $4,000 Canadian, so it's like three grand us.

2392
02:52:28,160 --> 02:52:35,040
>> I was going to say, I think I'll keep my uh my three monitors. >> It's the nicest monitor that I use, but

2393
02:52:33,200 --> 02:52:39,760
could never recommend. You know what I'm saying? >> Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's fair

2394
02:52:37,200 --> 02:52:46,080
enough. And hopefully, you know, that we're you're seeing prices like

2395
02:52:42,720 --> 02:52:48,319
of standard class monitors, I don't 10

2396
02:52:46,080 --> 02:52:50,880
1080, 1440p monitors right now constantly coming down. Stuff like that

2397
02:52:49,920 --> 02:52:56,800
will come down eventually. >> And for the for the price, I would

2398
02:52:53,439 --> 02:53:00,080
solidly recommend the 42-in TV instead.

2399
02:52:56,800 --> 02:53:02,319
>> That's uh even with the distractions and

2400
02:53:00,080 --> 02:53:05,359
annoyances. I remember we did a video a while back on how you can get like a

2401
02:53:03,760 --> 02:53:08,000
service remote for the LG and you there's more stuff you can adjust. I

2402
02:53:06,800 --> 02:53:14,399
don't know that that's true of the newer ones, though. I think I was on like a C2 at the time. Yeah, I've got a C2 as my

2403
02:53:12,000 --> 02:53:19,040
main monitor. 52 in is nice and they're pretty damn cheap.

2404
02:53:16,560 --> 02:53:24,560
Uh, let's see what else is next. Hey, Luke, how are you liking Tarov 1.0?

2405
02:53:22,240 --> 02:53:27,439
>> Uh, I was having a pretty okay time with it. And then

2406
02:53:26,000 --> 02:53:31,200
>> you sound so enthusiastic. >> We And then we Linux challenged. I do

2407
02:53:29,680 --> 02:53:34,000
want to escape from Tarive. I want to like complete the game, which is

2408
02:53:32,800 --> 02:53:38,319
possible now. Uh, >> okay. Hit me up. Hit me up. I'll join. Yeah,

2409
02:53:36,000 --> 02:53:42,640
>> I'll I'll be your boat anchor. >> Come have fun. Um, we'll see how that

2410
02:53:40,640 --> 02:53:47,760
goes. Especially because like I was playing decently close to launch and

2411
02:53:45,520 --> 02:53:50,479
doing okay, but if I jumped in now, everyone's going to have like crazy

2412
02:53:48,800 --> 02:53:54,960
gear. So, it might make sense for me to wait for a wipe again and then try to

2413
02:53:52,399 --> 02:53:58,800
beat it then. But we'll see.

2414
02:53:56,880 --> 02:54:05,040
Hello, DLL from the Netherlands. Question one. My company is looking to

2415
02:54:00,960 --> 02:54:08,960
give non techy users uh to vibe code

2416
02:54:05,040 --> 02:54:11,520
in-house apps users think will help them

2417
02:54:08,960 --> 02:54:14,319
with their work. What's your thoughts? Um also when's the LTD Vibe Code video

2418
02:54:14,080 --> 02:54:21,040
coming? >> I talked about that earlier. >> Oh, you did? Okay. So, >> yeah, it's it's dead. It'll maybe be a

2419
02:54:18,479 --> 02:54:24,880
Floatplane exclusive with like sort of roughly cut together, but it's just it's

2420
02:54:23,359 --> 02:54:27,680
been so long since I did the challenge that it just doesn't seem that relevant

2421
02:54:26,399 --> 02:54:32,080
today. >> Um Uh, so I'm going to hear your

2422
02:54:30,720 --> 02:54:36,640
question and take it in a slightly different angle, but an interesting

2423
02:54:34,399 --> 02:54:40,640
application for vibe coding that I've thought of recently that I've kind of

2424
02:54:38,080 --> 02:54:43,760
pitched to somebody internally who was trying to vibe code their own thing, but

2425
02:54:42,399 --> 02:54:50,560
something that would be pretty sketchy to vibe code. Um, was how about you try

2426
02:54:47,359 --> 02:54:52,479
to vibe code it on your own and use that

2427
02:54:50,560 --> 02:54:55,200
as the request. >> Yeah.

2428
02:54:54,160 --> 02:55:01,680
>> So like >> make this but not crap. >> Yeah. basically because one of the most

2429
02:54:59,279 --> 02:55:07,200
difficult parts is actually getting out of someone's brain what they actually

2430
02:55:04,560 --> 02:55:11,520
want. And you'd think that wouldn't be that hard, but it's really, really

2431
02:55:10,319 --> 02:55:15,760
difficult sometimes. >> That was what I expected to be the conclusion of the vibe coding challenge.

2432
02:55:15,359 --> 02:55:21,920
>> Yeah. >> Was that the best use of it for someone like me was to make a proof of concept

2433
02:55:20,479 --> 02:55:26,240
that I could then hand to a developer and go, "This is what I need it to do. Now it does everything I need it to do.

2434
02:55:24,800 --> 02:55:30,880
Make it not suck." And I'm not gonna lie, if you handed your version to Dan

2435
02:55:28,960 --> 02:55:34,080
and he got to start with that instead of your notes, I bet you would have done a

2436
02:55:32,960 --> 02:55:37,760
better job. And your notes weren't even like that bad. Like compared to most

2437
02:55:36,080 --> 02:55:43,200
people pitching things, your notes were pretty good. Some people will give you

2438
02:55:40,640 --> 02:55:47,600
just nothing. And it's like >> I tried to put a lot of thought into

2439
02:55:45,120 --> 02:55:50,800
like I what I tried to do was I tried to provide Dan with the same prompting

2440
02:55:50,560 --> 02:55:57,439
>> Yeah. >> that I would give to an LLM. >> Yeah. cuz if you know if the LLM can't

2441
02:55:55,200 --> 02:56:00,399
do it then he can't do it for sure or like if he can't do it then the LLM

2442
02:55:59,200 --> 02:56:04,000
can't do it. That's that's what I was going for. So he would have to have all

2443
02:56:02,560 --> 02:56:07,840
the information. So I tried to I actually tried like tried to be extra

2444
02:56:05,760 --> 02:56:12,160
super serial like thorough. >> Yeah.

2445
02:56:08,960 --> 02:56:14,319
>> Um so like I I think that can be kind of

2446
02:56:12,160 --> 02:56:18,640
neat like let this person brainstorm with themselves effectively and come up

2447
02:56:16,800 --> 02:56:22,560
with like a Yeah. I mean, this thing doesn't necessarily work or maybe it's

2448
02:56:20,399 --> 02:56:26,240
like a just absolute nightmare for security reasons or whatever else, but

2449
02:56:24,880 --> 02:56:31,439
this is kind of what I want it to do. You can poke around and see the intention and then take that and

2450
02:56:30,080 --> 02:56:36,000
actually make a thing out of it. Sounds pretty cool. Um, a company really

2451
02:56:34,080 --> 02:56:39,760
encouraging their employees to do that. I mean, yeah, sounds like security

2452
02:56:37,840 --> 02:56:43,640
problems depending on what your company works on. Um,

2453
02:56:43,680 --> 02:56:51,520
I've also seen people do some really cool stuff with VIP coding. I I'm pretty

2454
02:56:47,600 --> 02:56:54,240
sure what's his name? Hank Green. Uh

2455
02:56:51,520 --> 02:56:59,279
Hank Green YouTube. Let's go to his channel.

2456
02:56:56,000 --> 02:57:02,319
He has a video, the Artemis photos you

2457
02:56:59,279 --> 02:57:04,560
didn't see yet. And then in here, he

2458
02:57:02,319 --> 02:57:11,439
vibecoded a website called Artemis timeline. And you can go through and see

2459
02:57:08,240 --> 02:57:14,319
the the photos that were taken and the

2460
02:57:11,439 --> 02:57:18,000
like time of day and which camera took it and what they were supposed to be

2461
02:57:16,240 --> 02:57:24,000
doing at the time >> and all that kind of stuff. And he put

2462
02:57:21,600 --> 02:57:28,960
this together with some vibe coding and it didn't perfectly work and he had to

2463
02:57:25,920 --> 02:57:31,040
step in and make some changes to it and

2464
02:57:28,960 --> 02:57:35,760
improve things and fix data and whatnot. but like he got part of the way there

2465
02:57:33,520 --> 02:57:39,600
with vibe coding. And if it if you're not Hank Green and you can't take it the

2466
02:57:37,359 --> 02:57:41,439
rest of the way there, um maybe within your company, you can hand it off to

2467
02:57:40,640 --> 02:57:45,680
somebody who can. >> Yeah, >> it's funny you bring up like creators

2468
02:57:44,080 --> 02:57:50,960
using vibe coding. I was at creator summit recently and I spoke to at least

2469
02:57:47,600 --> 02:57:53,520
one, I'll just put it that way creator

2470
02:57:50,960 --> 02:57:55,760
who uses vibe coding very regularly in their projects and just doesn't disclose

2471
02:57:55,359 --> 02:58:00,880
it. >> Yeah. because they just don't feel like dealing with the hate. Because at the

2472
02:57:59,120 --> 02:58:05,040
end of the day, all the viewers care about is like the end result of the

2473
02:58:03,520 --> 02:58:10,560
product. They're never going to audit the code. It doesn't matter because they're never going to ship it to anyone

2474
02:58:08,240 --> 02:58:14,399
and they just love it. >> I I know multiple creators personally

2475
02:58:12,319 --> 02:58:19,359
that that use it and don't disclose it. Um

2476
02:58:17,040 --> 02:58:22,319
but they're also not like shipping. >> Yeah.

2477
02:58:20,160 --> 02:58:28,479
>> These are tools for themselves. Yeah. Yeah. like and and Hank Green did, but

2478
02:58:25,359 --> 02:58:30,720
he disclosed it I think like multiple

2479
02:58:28,479 --> 02:58:34,800
times in one video. Like he wasn't uh >> That's a Hank Green thing to do.

2480
02:58:32,160 --> 02:58:36,880
>> Yeah, sure is. >> That's a cool site.

2481
02:58:35,439 --> 02:58:40,080
>> Oh, sorry. Sorry. Cool. >> What's up, boys? Luke, what specific

2482
02:58:38,560 --> 02:58:45,560
chair do you use at home when sitting at your computer and gaming?

2483
02:58:42,560 --> 02:58:45,560
>> Uh,

2484
02:58:48,160 --> 02:58:52,399
I had the name on my head earlier and I don't remember. Uh, let me see. One

2485
02:58:52,160 --> 02:58:57,800
second. >> I took that from you. >> I can I can find it pretty easily.

2486
02:58:58,720 --> 02:59:03,960
Computer. Oh my god. Chair.

2487
02:59:06,160 --> 02:59:14,880
The Marcus. The IKEA Marcus.

2488
02:59:11,040 --> 02:59:18,319
That's it. Nice. Solid. It's cheap. It's

2489
02:59:14,880 --> 02:59:22,399
not that good.

2490
02:59:18,319 --> 02:59:24,000
Nice. Hello, Legendary Lords of Devices.

2491
02:59:22,399 --> 02:59:28,000
This question mostly goes to Luke. Well, three in a row, but Lionus is free to

2492
02:59:25,920 --> 02:59:31,840
answer as well. I've heard you mention playing Ballers Gate 3 before. What's

2493
02:59:30,399 --> 02:59:35,279
your favorite class to play? >> Oh, dude, I don't think Lionus is going

2494
02:59:34,479 --> 02:59:40,319
to have one of these. I don't think you've played it. >> I always play Mage Chicks.

2495
02:59:38,319 --> 02:59:45,040
>> Okay. Mage, I think. >> World of Warcraft or Dragon uh Dragon

2496
02:59:43,120 --> 02:59:47,840
Age or like whatever. I'm just I'm just I go straight for the mage chick. I

2497
02:59:46,640 --> 02:59:51,279
personally think those are cooler in Divinity because the the interaction of

2498
02:59:50,000 --> 02:59:58,000
all the spells with each other and being able to do that kind of stuff. >> Um, fighter

2499
02:59:55,200 --> 03:00:04,640
>> classic are just so sick in Boulders Gate. They're crazy, dude. They're nuts.

2500
03:00:02,080 --> 03:00:08,000
Attacking like six times in one turn is just crazy.

2501
03:00:06,640 --> 03:00:13,120
>> Jumping all over the place. >> Yeah, they're just they're nuts. I I

2502
03:00:10,960 --> 03:00:16,080
like one of the designers for Ballers's Gate must have looked at D and D and

2503
03:00:14,479 --> 03:00:20,319
been like, "Fighters are boring. What if we just gave them crack?

2504
03:00:18,960 --> 03:00:23,840
Just like what happened? >> Worked for the Germans

2505
03:00:22,000 --> 03:00:28,880
>> basically. >> Yeah. Um, so I don't know. Those are

2506
03:00:26,000 --> 03:00:33,439
fun. Um, I I like tons of stuff, though. I've played I've played a bunch of

2507
03:00:30,319 --> 03:00:35,520
different classes, but yeah, just just

2508
03:00:33,439 --> 03:00:41,520
send it just full sending Lazelle down fighter is is sick.

2509
03:00:38,160 --> 03:00:43,760
>> All right, DLL. If LDD could pivot to a

2510
03:00:41,520 --> 03:00:47,520
completely channel unrelated topic for one week, what would you cover? Also,

2511
03:00:45,920 --> 03:00:51,359
thanks for the new shipping perk. I upgraded to Floatplane plus because I

2512
03:00:49,760 --> 03:00:55,359
did the math and I would actually save money.

2513
03:00:52,800 --> 03:01:01,359
>> Uh yeah, if you order a fair bit from LT store, it's a it's kind of a no-brainer.

2514
03:00:57,200 --> 03:01:03,600
Um the Floatplane perk includes um

2515
03:01:01,359 --> 03:01:07,040
always free shipping. I have clarified with the team that is apparently

2516
03:01:04,880 --> 03:01:11,439
forever. So, free shipping over a threshold, but during shiptorm the

2517
03:01:08,399 --> 03:01:11,920
threshold's even lower.

2518
03:01:11,439 --> 03:01:18,160
>> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Um,

2519
03:01:15,760 --> 03:01:23,359
it would probably be Okay, this is going to sound crazy, but I think it would be

2520
03:01:20,399 --> 03:01:27,840
like going to garage sales. If it was just for a week, just like a throwaway

2521
03:01:25,359 --> 03:01:31,439
thing, I would I would probably I would I would probably like thrift or like go

2522
03:01:30,080 --> 03:01:35,279
to garage sales. I love hunting for deals. >> Garageyard Wars. And it'd be kind of fun

2523
03:01:33,359 --> 03:01:39,840
to like not have to bother with computer deals for a change.

2524
03:01:38,000 --> 03:01:43,760
I' like I think that would be a blast. Lionus and Luke just go to garage sales.

2525
03:01:42,160 --> 03:01:49,680
I would I would watch the crap out of that. >> I was thinking I don't feel like this is

2526
03:01:47,600 --> 03:01:52,479
I my personal vote, which I think everyone's going to get pissed about,

2527
03:01:50,880 --> 03:01:55,200
but my personal vote is that we maybe don't even do a Scrapard Awards this year.

2528
03:01:54,080 --> 03:02:00,880
>> Oh, we're not doing one this year. >> Yeah. Okay. Everything's just kind of a mess. But I was thinking next time we

2529
03:01:58,640 --> 03:02:04,080
bring it back, I think you and I should be teamed up.

2530
03:02:03,200 --> 03:02:12,000
I don't know. >> You just want a trophy. >> Maybe. I don't I don't know what the uh

2531
03:02:10,240 --> 03:02:14,160
>> I don't know what the challenge is. I don't know why it makes sense, but I

2532
03:02:13,359 --> 03:02:19,279
think it would be fun. >> Just going to be two adults beating up toddlers at that point.

2533
03:02:17,920 --> 03:02:22,399
>> No, we've done it before. >> Yeah, we we lost once when we were

2534
03:02:21,439 --> 03:02:25,040
teamed up, I think. Really? >> Nope. >> Did we not? >> We did and then figured out that they

2535
03:02:24,640 --> 03:02:30,560
cheated. >> Oh, that's right. I remember that. >> Yeah,

2536
03:02:28,000 --> 03:02:34,000
>> but they did they did super well. And I think they only really cheated cuz their

2537
03:02:32,000 --> 03:02:39,680
part like died which was >> unfortunate but we still win.

2538
03:02:37,840 --> 03:02:44,720
>> Hello Lionus Luke and Dan. What has been the biggest tech interruption caused by

2539
03:02:41,680 --> 03:02:46,160
pets? Once I had our dog rip a DSL cable

2540
03:02:44,720 --> 03:02:51,359
which took down internet and television for a few hours. >> When I was a kid we had a pet rabbit and

2541
03:02:49,680 --> 03:02:53,840
they chewed through all of the cables behind the TV.

2542
03:02:53,439 --> 03:03:00,640
>> Nice. >> And then my brother and I didn't think quite as highly of the rabbit.

2543
03:02:59,200 --> 03:03:07,600
Yeah, I can imagine you two not being into that. Uh, not a pet, but I had rats

2544
03:03:04,399 --> 03:03:09,279
uh destroy both our minivan and Ivon's

2545
03:03:07,600 --> 03:03:13,760
SUV recently, >> making nests in them and chewing through

2546
03:03:11,520 --> 03:03:16,319
wires. They both they both had to go in for work over the last like few months.

2547
03:03:15,680 --> 03:03:22,080
>> Yikes. >> Pretty not impressed by that. So, I have to like I have to like rodent proof my

2548
03:03:20,319 --> 03:03:27,520
garage now, which is just, you know, the kind of thing I love doing on a weekend.

2549
03:03:25,359 --> 03:03:31,760
I had that problem ages ago that in an effort to be green, they made the wires

2550
03:03:29,120 --> 03:03:33,040
out of cellulose. >> Let's just make

2551
03:03:32,479 --> 03:03:38,160
>> Wait, really? >> Yeah, it was some derivative or something. Let's just make all the wires

2552
03:03:36,000 --> 03:03:44,479
in the car out of rat food. Great choice. Okay. as much as uh as much as

2553
03:03:41,840 --> 03:03:50,399
it's like a champagne problem, um I was talking to my uncle about um sort of

2554
03:03:47,600 --> 03:03:53,760
green initiatives in manufacturing and how they sometimes have unintended

2555
03:03:52,240 --> 03:03:59,279
consequences. And uh he was saying that in some ways

2556
03:03:56,319 --> 03:04:05,439
an older airframe is actually more desirable than a newer one. And the

2557
03:04:02,080 --> 03:04:09,359
reason is that the EPA mandates the use

2558
03:04:05,439 --> 03:04:12,800
of more ecologically friendly primers on

2559
03:04:09,359 --> 03:04:14,720
the frames now that uh just crack and

2560
03:04:12,800 --> 03:04:18,720
fail after >> not that many years compared to the old

2561
03:04:16,960 --> 03:04:26,479
>> painting's like crazy expensive cuz I don't know it flies >> cuz and so the one from 1990 he was

2562
03:04:22,960 --> 03:04:30,319
telling me it's actually more economical

2563
03:04:26,479 --> 03:04:33,279
to carefully remove only the paint and

2564
03:04:30,319 --> 03:04:36,640
then just touch up the primer uh with the cuz you can't use the old stuff

2565
03:04:34,800 --> 03:04:41,520
anymore. So, you just like touch up the spots where you like accidentally went

2566
03:04:38,560 --> 03:04:44,960
through it um than it is to like strip it and reprime it because of how often

2567
03:04:43,439 --> 03:04:50,479
you'll have to completely strip it and reprime it now. And everyone knows this

2568
03:04:47,920 --> 03:04:56,560
and just keeps doing it. And it sort of raises the question, how much

2569
03:04:53,200 --> 03:04:58,080
eco-friendly paint do you need to use

2570
03:04:56,560 --> 03:05:01,359
before it would have been better to just paint it once with the note eco-friendly

2571
03:05:00,080 --> 03:05:05,439
paint? And I I don't know the answer to that question. >> I also wonder what about it is not

2572
03:05:03,680 --> 03:05:08,800
eco-friendly and and how not eco-friendly it is cuz it could be that

2573
03:05:06,880 --> 03:05:11,840
that original primer is just like really brutal. >> It could be as bad as painting it six

2574
03:05:11,200 --> 03:05:17,359
times, >> right? >> But unless we unless we know for sure

2575
03:05:14,880 --> 03:05:20,240
that math, which maybe someone has done, but I just >> hopefully

2576
03:05:18,560 --> 03:05:23,840
>> I just doubt it. Like how many times do they have to manufacture the cable

2577
03:05:21,600 --> 03:05:26,479
harness in mine and Dan's car before it would have been better to just use the

2578
03:05:25,040 --> 03:05:31,279
less eco-friendly cable harness? >> Yeah. What if it's rat food? >> You know what I mean? I mean, the

2579
03:05:29,760 --> 03:05:35,760
potential of the manufacturing of the product could also be super super

2580
03:05:33,200 --> 03:05:41,760
brutal. Like maybe not so much for for wire, you know, installation. But

2581
03:05:39,279 --> 03:05:43,760
eh, sometimes these have unintended consequences. Bro.

2582
03:05:43,040 --> 03:05:50,960
>> Mhm. >> A bro. >> What? >> I just got some good news.

2583
03:05:46,800 --> 03:05:52,960
>> What? I just got a tracking number.

2584
03:05:50,960 --> 03:05:56,319
Um. Uh oh. No. Or here. Here. I'll bring

2585
03:05:55,120 --> 03:06:02,240
I'll bring it up here. I'll bring it up here.

2586
03:05:58,640 --> 03:06:04,560
I told these guys at CES, I guess it

2587
03:06:02,240 --> 03:06:11,120
was. Did Did we even make a video?

2588
03:06:07,920 --> 03:06:13,680
Kataw, stop tracking people.

2589
03:06:11,120 --> 03:06:16,680
Uh uh

2590
03:06:17,920 --> 03:06:21,439
I don't think I made a video. Did I do a

2591
03:06:21,040 --> 03:06:26,240
short video? >> Bro, what are you talking about? You got to tell me what you're talking about.

2592
03:06:24,080 --> 03:06:28,880
>> Okay. Okay. Okay. Do you remember Roar Systems? The guys who did that like

2593
03:06:27,840 --> 03:06:33,560
AirJet thing? >> Yeah. >> Okay. At CES,

2594
03:06:33,600 --> 03:06:41,200
>> they showed off something called liquid

2595
03:06:36,880 --> 03:06:43,760
jet. So traditional cold plates, right,

2596
03:06:41,200 --> 03:06:48,479
like water blocks are made by taking a plate of copper and then you either you

2597
03:06:46,080 --> 03:06:53,760
like mill a design in it. So you know like little pins or whatever. Uh or or

2598
03:06:51,920 --> 03:06:58,000
like a lot of modern ones use what's called skydived copper where you take a

2599
03:06:56,000 --> 03:07:03,279
blade and so you take that flat piece of copper and you like shave a sliver of

2600
03:07:01,120 --> 03:07:08,000
copper and then like fold it up and then make another fin videos of making heat

2601
03:07:05,279 --> 03:07:11,840
sink. Sky copper is so cool. Anyway, that's the traditional way. Your

2602
03:07:09,760 --> 03:07:17,120
geometries are pretty limited because it's subtractive or like like using the

2603
03:07:15,359 --> 03:07:24,800
malleability of the copper to reshape it.

2604
03:07:19,840 --> 03:07:28,399
>> Roar is using more like um more like uh

2605
03:07:24,800 --> 03:07:31,359
like like silicon manufacturing. So

2606
03:07:28,399 --> 03:07:34,399
they're using like metal deposition like you would like you would make

2607
03:07:32,880 --> 03:07:42,160
microchips. So by using copper deposition they can

2608
03:07:38,560 --> 03:07:45,680
make geometries that are like

2609
03:07:42,160 --> 03:07:49,920
like out of this world more thermally

2610
03:07:45,680 --> 03:07:51,120
efficient than even skydived copper. Um

2611
03:07:49,920 --> 03:07:56,160
>> this is not a good >> that's not what I'm getting. That's not what I'm getting. I'm getting just Oh no

2612
03:07:54,399 --> 03:08:00,960
no you can keep that up though. I'm getting just the like cooling engines at

2613
03:07:58,640 --> 03:08:04,399
the top right. I'm getting two. So, we're going to try putting one on a

2614
03:08:03,439 --> 03:08:09,600
gaming GPU. >> Cool. >> And just like >> seeing how fast she go. This this

2615
03:08:07,840 --> 03:08:16,240
stuff's so cool. So, I was I've been working on this since January. Um,

2616
03:08:14,319 --> 03:08:18,800
>> and I was like, yeah, I don't see the point of me making Yeah, I remember now.

2617
03:08:17,600 --> 03:08:23,200
I was like, I don't see the point of me making a video about like, here's a demo

2618
03:08:20,880 --> 03:08:26,479
on a GPU no one will ever own, but I'm really excited about this and I really

2619
03:08:24,640 --> 03:08:31,920
want to work with you guys, but I want one. And it's taken until now to kind of

2620
03:08:29,520 --> 03:08:36,399
give them all the reassurances that like, you know, we're not going to judge

2621
03:08:34,800 --> 03:08:40,560
them based on that the, you know, the the VRM are going to be hotter cuz it's

2622
03:08:39,040 --> 03:08:43,520
not a full coverage solution and just like, no, no, no, guys. It's Yeah. Yeah.

2623
03:08:42,319 --> 03:08:48,000
Yeah. We're good. We're good. We're good. Um, I'm, Dude, I'm stoked. I'm so

2624
03:08:47,040 --> 03:08:50,880
stoked to check it out. >> Yeah. Nice. That's sweet.

2625
03:08:50,160 --> 03:08:55,680
>> Yeah. >> Howdy from Texas. Mechanical/manufacturing

2626
03:08:53,920 --> 03:09:00,000
engineer here. What manufacturing methods do y'all use in the production

2627
03:08:57,520 --> 03:09:06,399
of your products or any product in general that still fascinates you today?

2628
03:09:04,640 --> 03:09:08,399
>> Injection molding. >> I was going to say it's all kind of

2629
03:09:07,760 --> 03:09:15,359
fascinating. >> Casting. Um >> 3D metal printing.

2630
03:09:12,640 --> 03:09:21,040
>> Uh I mean lots of different things. Laser engraving.

2631
03:09:18,640 --> 03:09:25,680
Um I mean we have a lot of like small scale stuff in house but realistically

2632
03:09:23,120 --> 03:09:31,439
you know we're we're we're using industrial scale manufacturers for for a

2633
03:09:29,600 --> 03:09:38,000
lot of the stuff that makes it to LT store otherwise we wouldn't be able to produce in any meaningful volume. So, I

2634
03:09:35,040 --> 03:09:44,479
I I'm very fascinated by manufacturing technology, but unless you asked me a

2635
03:09:41,600 --> 03:09:48,000
specific product, then I I wouldn't really be able to I wouldn't really be

2636
03:09:46,319 --> 03:09:51,000
able to narrow it down too much, I'm afraid.

2637
03:09:52,479 --> 03:09:58,319
Sorry, Linus and Luke about to quit my

2638
03:09:55,600 --> 03:10:03,279
job to be an executive at a startup. Oh, huge step. small business focused on

2639
03:10:00,319 --> 03:10:07,600
home services. After seeing many businesses rise and fall, what are the

2640
03:10:05,279 --> 03:10:12,720
biggest indicators of success? Tips: culture. You have to have a culture

2641
03:10:10,000 --> 03:10:18,640
that's hungry and wants to win. Um, at times we've had a very hungry winning

2642
03:10:15,760 --> 03:10:23,840
oriented culture and at times we've had a very complacent

2643
03:10:20,720 --> 03:10:25,120
um, collect a paycheck culture and

2644
03:10:23,840 --> 03:10:31,359
>> and times we've had mixed >> and at times we've had a mix that has

2645
03:10:27,760 --> 03:10:33,359
been at various levels of health. Um,

2646
03:10:31,359 --> 03:10:38,160
and I would say that if there's anything that I could tell you to focus on, it's

2647
03:10:35,680 --> 03:10:45,240
have a culture that is laser focused on just winning and being hungry and and su

2648
03:10:41,279 --> 03:10:45,240
failure is not an option.

2649
03:10:46,240 --> 03:10:52,240
Hey, Litlap Dap, you mentioned a while

2650
03:10:49,600 --> 03:10:56,399
ago that you were going to hold a Smash tournament as a middle finger to

2651
03:10:53,760 --> 03:11:01,279
Nintendo's crazy guidelines. Any update to that for the future of Whailand?

2652
03:10:58,319 --> 03:11:06,120
>> We got yelled at. of the Elcoin by our own people.

2653
03:11:02,240 --> 03:11:06,120
>> Yeah, we basically

2654
03:11:06,479 --> 03:11:13,600
I'm not going to tell you my wife said no,

2655
03:11:10,240 --> 03:11:17,200
but my wife said no,

2656
03:11:13,600 --> 03:11:19,520
and she was right. She usually is.

2657
03:11:17,200 --> 03:11:23,680
Sometimes she's not hypothetically. I

2658
03:11:21,840 --> 03:11:28,720
I imagine sometimes she's not, but usually she usually she's right. Uh

2659
03:11:26,399 --> 03:11:33,279
sometimes she can be very very conservative

2660
03:11:30,319 --> 03:11:38,720
um in terms of like like CIA, you know, covering our butts. Um but that has, you

2661
03:11:36,160 --> 03:11:43,120
know, and and there are times when it's very annoying to navigate that, but then

2662
03:11:40,800 --> 03:11:51,160
we'll get audited and we like pass our audits and I'm like, right, good, good

2663
03:11:47,279 --> 03:11:51,160
job. you know,

2664
03:11:51,680 --> 03:12:01,200
do you have any recommendations on what I should use on my PX13 for the memory

2665
03:11:56,479 --> 03:12:03,279
modules? I plan on repasting my CPU to

2666
03:12:01,200 --> 03:12:08,399
get the get rid of the liquid metal before I kill my unit. I plan to use

2667
03:12:06,560 --> 03:12:14,720
BTM7950 for processing. Ooh. Uh,

2668
03:12:12,880 --> 03:12:18,720
it's less a matter of what you should use and it's more a matter of what

2669
03:12:16,319 --> 03:12:23,520
thickness you should use. Uh, you may want to try checking with ASUS. They may

2670
03:12:21,439 --> 03:12:28,800
be willing to tell you. If they're not willing to tell you, then man, your best

2671
03:12:27,200 --> 03:12:31,520
bet might be to just take it off and measure the thickness of those thermal

2672
03:12:30,240 --> 03:12:36,160
pads and then make sure that you're not putting in something that is thinner or thicker than what's already in there. Or

2673
03:12:34,800 --> 03:12:40,800
you could just keep using the thermal pads that are in there. I mean, realistically, are those going to be a

2674
03:12:39,200 --> 03:12:45,200
real problem for you? is your memory overheating.

2675
03:12:43,680 --> 03:12:49,520
There's no liquid metal on the memory. So, I if I if it was me, the convenient

2676
03:12:48,000 --> 03:12:55,760
way would be to just reuse my thermal pads there. That's going to be that's going to be my my low friction um

2677
03:12:53,760 --> 03:12:59,359
recommendation. What's your opinion on the online belief

2678
03:12:57,439 --> 03:13:03,680
that the Steam Machine will include a controller on launch? I'm interested,

2679
03:13:01,359 --> 03:13:07,359
but the price worries me. Also, what's the status on the physical Linus coin

2680
03:13:05,359 --> 03:13:12,000
shipping? uh status on the physical coins is they are in manufacturing and

2681
03:13:10,000 --> 03:13:17,040
if you check your order confirmation, it should tell you like when they're

2682
03:13:13,600 --> 03:13:18,560
expected to be uh being minted. Um as

2683
03:13:17,040 --> 03:13:22,240
for the Steam Machine including a controller, from my understanding, it should include a controller. That was

2684
03:13:21,279 --> 03:13:29,520
what Valve >> pretty sure told me when I went down there for the announcement or the

2685
03:13:25,920 --> 03:13:31,840
unveiling. Um, if if something changed

2686
03:13:29,520 --> 03:13:37,279
due to the way the market is right now, I I wouldn't actually like hold Valve to

2687
03:13:35,040 --> 03:13:44,040
the coals over it, like it's a tough situation that they're in. Um, but from

2688
03:13:39,840 --> 03:13:44,040
my understanding, that is the intent.

2689
03:13:45,040 --> 03:13:49,920
Hello from Toronto. I just finished Sea

2690
03:13:48,399 --> 03:13:54,160
of Stars and I'm looking for my next fix. Got any recommendations for more

2691
03:13:51,680 --> 03:13:58,760
retro vibe fun times? already finished Cross Code from your WAN Show

2692
03:13:55,760 --> 03:13:58,760
recommendation.

2693
03:13:59,359 --> 03:14:06,720
Um, is it retro or is it JRPG? Cuz you could

2694
03:14:04,560 --> 03:14:10,560
you recommend Expedition 33? >> Oh, Expedition 33 is so good.

2695
03:14:08,479 --> 03:14:13,279
>> Not not retrolooking, but JRPG.

2696
03:14:12,800 --> 03:14:18,080
>> Uh, >> not technically retro vibe fun time.

2697
03:14:16,720 --> 03:14:23,439
>> French RPG FRPG. >> Oh, they want a retro vibe fun time. Uh,

2698
03:14:21,359 --> 03:14:26,560
Chain Deckos. Chained Echoes is another one I played and really enjoyed. The

2699
03:14:24,720 --> 03:14:32,760
story gets a little sort of weird, but that's kind of typical of the genre um

2700
03:14:29,200 --> 03:14:32,760
toward the end.

2701
03:14:34,880 --> 03:14:42,960
Chain Deckos was my answer, Dan. Oh, there he goes. Sorry. And last one I got

2702
03:14:39,920 --> 03:14:45,439
for you today is, "Hey DL, is there any

2703
03:14:42,960 --> 03:14:52,640
plan to make a windbreaker coat? Love from Leel Province." Um,

2704
03:14:49,359 --> 03:14:54,080
I think so.

2705
03:14:52,640 --> 03:15:00,479
I actually don't know. I'm so sorry. You might have to message support and I

2706
03:14:56,560 --> 03:15:03,200
think I'm going to message support that

2707
03:15:00,479 --> 03:15:08,239
it's time for the end of the show. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time.

2708
03:15:05,840 --> 03:15:11,200
Different channel. You want to head over to the WAN Show channel. We're going to

2709
03:15:10,080 --> 03:15:15,520
we're going to have to transition over there pretty quick cuz this whole streaming on both is not working. We

2710
03:15:14,319 --> 03:15:22,080
might have to figure out the collab feature. I don't know. >> Apparently, that isn't a thing. Maybe.

2711
03:15:18,800 --> 03:15:22,960
You could collab the VOD.

2712
03:15:22,080 --> 03:15:29,359
>> Okay. >> I don't know. >> See you later.

2713
03:15:27,359 --> 03:15:33,399
>> Bye. >> I have to fly.

2714
03:15:30,399 --> 03:15:33,399
>> Yeah.

2715
03:15:58,319 --> 03:16:00,479
Whatever.