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you've decided you need a GPU doesn't matter the cost doesn't matter that

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they're impossible to find or maybe you're from the future and gpus are

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everywhere you could pick them up off the ground but you don't know which one

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to pick well we're going to help you narrow down your decision by unboxing

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three different 80s today and then we're going to drag race them with the help of

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JN from Labs let's start with the MSI

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Vanguard this is the launch edition the tape is of our own doing the launch

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edition comes with um some extra goodies

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like a massive box the one that you'll get in the non- launch edition is uh

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much more normal and the reason the box is so big is because it comes with a

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lucky mystery box so we'll see which

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kind of model we get later there's nine different types and one secret type we

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also get a card that says welcome on board and an adapter cool we get this

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MSI anti- sag stand you kind of screw it

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and then you can set the height of your GPU so that it doesn't sag because it

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looks like it's going to be freaking huge good Lord look at the size of this

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thing it's 14.1 in long and 5.9 in tall

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uh and it's about to looks like a four slot maybe three and a half

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saw GPU but really that just means it's four slots this is so big we'll see if

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this size is going to translate into better thermals and quieter operation it

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likely will especially when you consider that the PCB ends here here and the rest

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of this is just flow through cooler in terms of looks I like it it's got some

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cool carbon fiber as well as some kind of like angular action-y kind of stuff

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like this like the curvature of a fan is kind of accentuated I think it does look

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pretty cool it is also just so so big

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we'll talk a bit more about specs and features when we get the rest of them unboxed our next one is the zotek amp

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extreme Infinity 5080 to gaming and Beyond we got documentation oh and we're

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right to the card uh it seems that it also comes with a anti-ag bracket we

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also have an RGB adapter along with a power adapter let's take a look at the

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oh that's heavy or maybe it's just dense I don't know I feel like the MSI one was

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probably heavy but it's was much bigger this seems more reasonably sized this is

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13.1 by 5.4 and also looks like a triple

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slot a little bit more than that so it is quite a bit more compact than the MSI

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I think this actually looks much classier this is very nice looking I

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think that the color scheme of the kind of gold and uh gunmetal gray looks

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pretty cool um it is a dense heat sink

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the PCB is definitely I feel like it's longer but you still get an amp a decent

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amount of flow through and apparently this is an infinity mirror the only

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other thing of note really is that the power connector on this is upside down

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compared to the usual implementation with the sense pins on the top uh there's a little button for their

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oneclick OC dual BIOS thing and then here's where the RGB plugs in I would

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say not the most ideal place to have your RGB cable come out because it's

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going to be facing directly towards everyone else it would

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have been nice if they could have put it on like this corner or something like

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that I you know maybe make like a ribbon cable that runs across it h it is what

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it is but you know what this is It's the colorful iame Ultra W which means white

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and I think is a cool looking card uh this is the most traditional

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packaging of any of them was a awful Noise We got some kind of digitized

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spray paint type looking stuff then

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inside we get quick materials a white

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sleeved power connector which is nice though I will say that the color

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matching on the cables is a little bit less than ideal this is really looking

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like hockey tape compared to the more pure whites of the rest of the Plastics

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the GPU however looks pretty cool a pretty dazzling uh almost uh chromatic

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effect to it there's kind of these reflective bits of text on this plastic

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see-through shroud now you might think because of what the box looks like that

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this would have some sort of lighting behind it it turns out it uh doesn't

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that's the picture's just kind of a lie which is kind of a bummer it's 13x 5.5

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in and it is a triple slot and maybe a

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little bit card on the back you know

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kind of disappointing that we have this metal here you won't really see it in

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your build but if you were going for all white and youd have like a white PCIe

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cover it would be nice to have this kind of match outside of that this is

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probably the most compact of the three cards we've looked at and definitely the

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most spunky they call it a hipop

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aesthetic John calls it Sakura graffiti which is honestly better branding than

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what they've come up with it's got a button for Turbo and normal to switch

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between the Dual bioses cool well I guess that the last thing we have to do

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is get them running and the second last thing we have to do is tell you about

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in the description each of these cards are OC models and so they all come with

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varying different boost clocks the Boost clock of the MSI is 2745 5 but you can

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only get that clock speed when you are using their MSI Center app you still get

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the highest clocks of any of them without it at 2730 um so but oh those 15 MHz will make

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a real difference I'm sure the zot tag is 2670 MHz and the colorful ey game has

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a boost clock of 2655 MHz the colorful one despite having the lowest clocks has

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the highest power rating at 380 Watts the other two cards are at 360 Watts

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which is the same as a Founders Edition card not really sure why okay cyberp

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Punk's done let's see how we did and it looks like the best performer was the

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Zotac at 156 FPS average the MSI came in

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second at 154 FPS and the colorful came

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in at 153 interesting that the highest clocked one didn't win but they're all

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basically performed the same you'll expect a little bit of variance on the test probably about 2 to 3 FPS so

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effectively they're all the same um normally we run the same game multiple

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times then average it so there good chance that we'd probably end up with

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the same number for all of them well let's try it at 4K and see if that makes a difference yeah cyberpunk 4K 3 2 1 go

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it's time for RGB evaluation the MSI I think this looks pretty nice it'll

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probably look really good in a case when it's more diffuse this uh little plastic

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glowy thing looks cheap it looks like something you'd get on teu the Zotac

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light bar simple looks good I wish the

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diffusion was a little bit smoother here you can kind of see the individual LEDs

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but let's take a look at the infinity mirror it looks cool you're never going

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to see it I guess if you have like a fish tank kind of PC like a 01 Dynamic

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you would be able to see the uh front of it it would be cooler to have it on the

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side I think but still my favorite looking card of the bunch and at the

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colorful ey game Ultra while I really do wish there was some sort of RGB on the

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face of the card on the side you do get this cool iame Ultra kind of text that

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is uh pretty nice though is this like GeForce RTX placement

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mandatory it's not maybe it is because I think that

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this is a really unfortunate placement for it cuz it's blocking the like RGB

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pattern maybe it's not their fault maybe NVIDIA is forcing them to do it that's

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why co4 oh my that's a good one Andy

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let's look at the results in 4k and it is even closer than it was in 1440p so

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72.6 on the colorful 72.7 on the zotek and MSI at

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71.9 to ooh again these are just average

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FPS 1% lows are probably a little bit more important this doesn't give us a 1%

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low it does give us a minimum which is the worst at perform this one gets 59.3

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2 59.3 4 58.4 4 they're the same GPU and

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guess what what they're basically the same as the founders Edition too really

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yeah if you look here on the lt2 lab site our 580 Founders Edition did 58 and

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73 so basically the same now granted

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this is with probably an older version of the game or older driver so but so

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it's one FPS you could get potenti for free well or for the price of whatever

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these are maybe we'll see a bigger difference in a different game for our next test we are doing returnal at 4K

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with epic rate tracing 3 2 1 go while

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we're waiting for returnal to run we're going to open our lucky and see what we got John says he wants the Shanghai

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lucky I want the Boba lucky or the mystery lucky cuz I want to know what it

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is we got Hollywood lucky wow let's look at

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the results 77 77

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77 if there was a question as to like whether any of these different models

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have an appreciable performance Delta out of the box not really the main thing

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that you're going to be considering when you're buying one of these gpus is the features like do you like the way it

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looks do you enjoy having the uh extra dual biosis do you enjoy the software

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that it comes packaged in MSI has a far more robust software suite than zotek or

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colorful but maybe you want something that's more lightweight other things to

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consider are just the size of them MSI is huge whereas the zotek is and the

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colorful are far more reasonable even though they are also still large however

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there's one more consideration that we need to take into account and that's thermals we did some thermal testing in

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advance and we just tested them as they were out of the box which meant that the

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MSI was in a silent BIOS the Zotac was in its OC BIOS and the colorful was in

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its default BIOS so performance could

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vary we also didn't adjust fan Prof FS or anything like that either and in F1

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we saw the Zotac pulling an average of 66° C with a Max of 67° C the

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colorful 62° C and 64° C and the MSI was

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at an average of 62 and Max of 65 this

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is still well below the 80° limit before they start Cards start downclocking

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Johnny I don't know if you agree but they're not loud no the the fan that

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you're actually hearing right now is actually just the noct to a fans

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thermally it seems that all of these cards do a pretty dang good job of

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keeping the card cool I do want to see

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how annoying they get if we crank the fans up though so let's Tinker this is

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the sound of the zotte it's not that bad I have a 7900

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XTX it's a obviously a much smaller card it's only a two slot card but the fans

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at full speed are way whinier than this

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and I'd say that this is like obviously quite loud not pleasant but by default

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they'll never run like this and uh um I've just heard worse let's see what the

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colorful sounds like it's got the most whoosh it sounds the most like white

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noise though I think it's probably the most Pleasant of all of them there is a

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slight high-pitched resonance like

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a it's like it's like but mostly it's just a whoosh noise which is actually

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pretty Pleasant and finally the MSI

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card it is I think quieter than the Zotac and perhaps overall a little bit

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lower of a pitch I don't know if it comes through but there is kind of this like very high-pitched whistling that's

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like that's happening that you don't hear when it's running slower it's

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really subtle you might not even notice it uh in a case or something like that

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definitely the Zotac is the loudest I will say the Zotac is the worst sounding

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and the loudest which is a bit of a bummer cuz it looks so dang classy but

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also you probably don't need to run your fans at 100% ever on a cooler this big

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your mileage may vary so they're all essentially the same mhm so how do you

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you choose a card I'd say probably Aesthetics and cost over anything on top

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of watching media reviews you should also look up owner reviews because

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there's some things that we just can't test like how is this card going to be after six seven months of the fans

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running all the time how expensive are these current pricing is still pretty

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gnarly the MSI comes in at

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$1,440 and the zot comes in at $1450 so

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$10 more both of those prices are really gnarly considering that this was

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supposed to be a $1,000 car give or take the aib tax the colorful

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however is not available in North America and depending on the region you're buying it in it can be anywhere

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from $1,200 to

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$1,700 that is insane so I think I agree

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with you I would probably pick the zotek as well mainly cuz I am a sucker for

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Aesthetics uh if I could get that for 1,200 I would deal with it the way it

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looks that was a lot to get through and if you want more GPU reviews to help

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determine which one you should buy you can go check out lot lots of reviews on

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the LTT laabs website LTT Labs.com these

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ones will be coming soon there they're not up yet but keep an eye out thanks

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for watching ShortCircuit this is the first time we've done a video in this kind of format so let us know in the

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comments if you liked it and if you did like it and you want to watch more stuff

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with Labs check out our oscilloscope unboxing that we did just a couple weeks

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ago
