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the fans inside your computer probably look something like this or this or

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maybe this but what they don't look like

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is this that is unless you happen to have a meshless aiio by meshless design

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a case that contrary to its name does in fact contain some mesh but the mesh or

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lack thereof is not what Drew Us in it was MD's claim that round fans are

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sickness and our long fan is the here

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really though guys a 14900 K and an RTX 490 in this case with

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no other fans not even on the

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giveaway at the link down below cross flow cooling fans have been used in

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gaming PCs before creative modders have used them to cram water cooling where no

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water cooling was intended to go and the Silverstone fx11 was available as an

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optional accessory for their first generation compact case the sg1 way back

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in 2005 so then where has this

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technology been all of my life hiding in

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plain sight it turns out cross flow fans are favored for their compact size Even

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airf Flow distribution and low noise and can be found in everything from

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household fans to air conditioners to gas fireplaces to computers apparently

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that also have seat bels in them yeah but to really see how cool it is we have

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to get inside so let's take off these panels ooh that is a tight fit good

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gravy promise you it's not cheap we'll get to that later how does this side

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come on it doesn't oh the rest of this is all like one connected piece of metal

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no yeah it totally is did they extrude this

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entire piece yes like that's amazing

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like how are you like this wow you're

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just so cool wow sorry sorry is he even

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famous anymore to be clear there are some screwed on pieces the power supply

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Mount right here this angled SSD Mount that's made out of I think PL oh

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metal that's fun the optional carrying handle and what

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appears to be an adapter for the top that allows you to mount conventional

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fans if you really want not quite that's for the radiator for your aiio

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oh I get it your motherboard goes here

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there's a little clip and a routing path for your tubes over here and then you've

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got this one fan that blows air out the

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top of the radiator no it actually pulls through the radiator and blows all out

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the side right here oh oh one fan to

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rule them all except for this guy oh

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presumably it's for RAM not for sheep only RAM that was a bad joke I don't

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know I think it was the goat you kid you kid a I'm

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defeated so let's Shepherd this away from the puns and back towards the

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case yeah otherwise we might not be able to keep the uh viewers

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hooked ooh I like

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it and there it is custom cross flow fan

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apparently the manufacturers not just sourcing these from AliExpress or

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whatever but rather they've sourced a motor an impeller and put together an

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assembly that they think offers a unique value proposition for cooling well your

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entire system just this this is cool I

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don't think I've ever seen a small form factor sandwich style case before that

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fits a quad slot GPU is this a

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490 actually they claim that this case was specifically designed for 490s and

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I9 core processors like absolutely crazy

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specs you are putting the GPU in upside down oh yes I certainly

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am really yeah it's okay this is the

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first of many wacky mechanisms in here ah GPU installation bracket I see I

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don't know what that's for I thought you said there was an airflow guide that

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must be what it is it must be it oh yes I saw that as an option on their website

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but I didn't realize that that's what it was at the time because when I built this and tested it we did not use it I

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don't know where it goes and I couldn't figure it out so I just didn't put it in

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okay fair enough they're working on manuals right now they're in the process of making it they sent us some early

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versions but it's all like Laura mipm stuff right now GPU bracket is that what

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it was oh good what you just got to get some

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screws on there that's pretty clever it allows you to just screw your standard

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screws into this and then something yeah

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NE I'll put the screws in sounds good is

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that an 1100 watt power supply mhm dang

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I feel like we do this every time we bring this out we're always like holy crap there's 1100 watts in there and

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before I put this in I'm going to put the cables on what is this for this is

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one of our many quirks we have our GPU

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support bracket that just kind of like sits in there it kind of fits between

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the case and the fan uh-huh and then it just just kind of sits on there just

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it's really weird okay sure fun fact we can actually screw this into this one oh

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well that's cool want to see Quirk number two I guess I haven't even put

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the GPU in yet though they give you custom length cables oh well that's cool

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yeah is that just for reviewers or is that a thing that's for that's you ask

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for the kind that you want with the case oh wonderful yeah and they're super

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flexible do you know why they aren't all this flexible is it like a safety thing

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because the silicone covers are more expensive I know this because we're

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going to be making our own cables and we're going to be using really really

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soft silicone covers yeah cuz these are nice yeah they're so nice to work with

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LTT Store.com at some pointtm all right

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I think I figured out how to get the uh GPU connector plugged in yeah sure

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actually there's a smarter way oh if you look at the bottom of the case there's

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panels oh look at that

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you can just uh open that up and then

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you can plug it in like well I didn't do that well you're going to have some problems in a moment but I I'll let you

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discover those on your own okay I need this to go in you should go from the

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other side oh you made this so much harder for yourself yeah no no just just

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give up no I can do it no stop no I can do it no cuz you got to hook it on it's

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going to make it no it's going to It's The Little Engine That Could the little

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GPU that could go in this way you mad bro a little but like not

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mad that you did it I'm just mad that you refused to do it the right way so

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you're mad that it worked no oh no is that does that have

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to oh do I have to slide it all the way out this way now in order to latch it

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onto a thing yep I was I was I was

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telling you dude I maintain that my way still worked ooh that's cool look where

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the bracket mounts onto have you noticed

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the doohickey super cool wait a doohickey I noticed this wa and there's

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a do hit key so because of how tight it is to get it in that allows you to

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disconnect the PCIe slot oh no way it's

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so fun to spin it goes okay how about it goes in

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the computer yeah how about you put that in there yeah okay dude did you get this

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in here with this GPU before yep it's

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not even what what have you done I have done nothing I have broken

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nothing I just need a little bit more sag I hate that that's the solution to

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their credit it's not that hard to build in though it's surprisingly easy power

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supply bracket just goes in a little something like that and we're about to

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get our motherboard in and then we're almost there wow I realized now we

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haven't really talked about the rest of the specs of this build at all oh yeah

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well we got a 7950 X so not quite I9 territory in terms of thermal output but

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a lot a lot of thermal output uh we got 32 gigs of DDR 6000 RAM your five 6,000

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RAM and did we throw a PCIe Gen 5 m.2 in

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here just for good measure um I'm not sure what the m.2 is in there it's one

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of our standard I think it's a 990 Pro it's a lab standard one nice and now

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it's oh not going anywhere because the screws are in the standoffs and now we

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get to see yet another fun Quirk of this case well how am I supposed to screw

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these in I introduce you to Tiny screwdriver wait they even have a little

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Notch shut up this comes out and I do

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that that from the all metal construction to

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like all of these weird unique bits you can kind of see the costs adding up

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we'll get to that yeah later now I just got to run the CPU power connector which

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conveniently goes right here look at that and I can put in our

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aiio oh yeah uh something no fans no

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fans at all you don't even have space for them it's like me in

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August no fan why why don't you have fans in August last August oh the oh I

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was thinking like house fans and I was like dude that's the hottest time of the

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year interesting thing to note about this case is that currently it only

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accepts 2 80 mm radiators which is why

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we went with a white one cuz we don't have another black one curly no that's

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an aesthetic Choice that's valid um is

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there a reason this is not going in uh yeah the the the pipes don't want to you

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really got to put them in there they're really bent oh I'll let you do your

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thing I'm GNA come over here and install the 24 pin there we go wow that's tight

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yep good gravy even to the side panel it's tight very delicious gravy wait did

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we put thermal compound on did you I

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didn't yeah um that's a lot of goop yeah

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you managed to not goop the part that you tried to goop that's good that's

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okay oh jeez do you not wipe when you're finishing oh sorry what no the

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hey that's it folks it's all in this didn't take that long no wait the strap

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that just slides in on top oh just going the other side get a little oh

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yeah look at that you can just like you

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can just hold it you could just wave the whole thing around like that that's

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enough of that that's a lot of money there I can't believe how painless this

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build was yeah they've put in a lot of thought as to how to put it together and

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they also actually have like really really nicely done build videos to show

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you as an instructions which we didn't even look at no we didn't need to it

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blows it blows oh yeah I want to see the cross flow

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fan o it does move yeah wow and that's

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interesting I don't know whether they've got any kind of ducting on it or

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anything but it doesn't blow straight I can't feel it at all

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here I feel it here so when that hot air

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is coming out of your system it's not coming out somewhere where these fans on

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the GPU are just going to suck it right back in it's going

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away yeah that is super cool let's hear

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this fan spin

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up I need to feel

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this she moves though she really does

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it's a lot of air you could probably see my ARM hair blowing in the wind here

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that's quite the thing oh my God you're going to hit the GPU now too yeah why

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not I mean sure we actually have head room on our CPU right now that won't

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last forever I want to hit it with combuster first first because one of the

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things we'll notice is that it'll prevent our CPU from getting hotter it's

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really good at throwing air out of the case in general something I'm noticing here is because we're using pwm control

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for the fan that means that the hotter the CPU goes the faster the fan spins

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well the GPU doesn't affect it and as long as our GPU stays cool enough which

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it looks like we're going to level out around 65 to

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70° I mean it's a it's not that loud it's a four slot 490 it's going to be

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fine if it was a thinner 490 I would have more concerns about it I mean even

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then not necessarily I've seen small for Factor designs where the exhaust is

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basically just kind of getting sucked back in and recycled even though it is being thrown out into the room and you

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can kind of stand near the computer and go oh yeah this is The Hot Zone heat

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dome right yeah but this thing it just

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it's at 550 watts and it's just hucking

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the heat away let's crank them both let's go okay 800 watts the number

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number I'm most interested in is our liquid temp because our ryzen CPUs are

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going to boost all the way up to 95 just by how they're designed so it's tough to

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tell how hot it's actually getting seeing our liquid temp going up over

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there is kind of giving us a better idea when we were idle CPU it was like 26°

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we've seen it climb to 30 over the course of like a minute maybe and I've

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also found a bit of a flaw in the design of this carrying strap it tends to get

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sucked down onto the rad which is a good indication that it's pulling a lot of

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air into it but is giving up some of our surface area to

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strapp oh yeah there it is CPU clock

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speed is going down as the liquid temperature goes up our GPU is fine yeah

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that's Rock Solid don't need to worry about it it's made byus cuz it's heart

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touching remember their old slogan Rock Solid heart touching no I don't yeah it

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doesn't matter you know it's loud but it's a pretty broad spectrum noise it's

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very tolerable yeah it's like a white noise machine it's not whiny at all yeah

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and if you were to have like a bunch of like 40 mm fans or even 120 fans you're

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usually going to get more noise than this well even right up against mesh

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have you listen to the have you heard of fractal Tera with fans right up against

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it it's

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bad the performance of any thermal solution comes down to three main

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elements air flow static pressure and sound air flow refers to how much air

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can be moved without any restriction static pressure refers to the ability of

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a cooling solution to over come obstructions like radiators and dust

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filters and sound is obvious how loud it

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is of course this casual onset test

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isn't enough to draw a real conclusion so we had the Labs team test the case at

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the low medium and high presets um before the button broke in combuster we

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see our GPU like we saw here totally fine cross the board uh it doesn't get

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that hot but the CPU really wants that high preset and even then it stays it's

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at 40 it's at 4 no then it's good yeah

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but it does need to max out yeah and you can see like even with a 15-minute test

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we still had a little bit of climbing to do it's not quite flat and in the

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acoustic tests yeah it reaches as high as 54 DB from the left side where most

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people would be positioned but like we said before

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subjectively the quality of that noise is not that bad and if you're not

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running all core loads you don't ever really need to have it run that fast no

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I mean if you're gaming you're not going to see anywhere near that yeah so in

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summary then cross flow fans are fine

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which doesn't answer the question of why they aren't more common well one reason

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is that their best quality is their compactness if you had components spread

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out laterally a cross flow fan takes up minimal space in two of its three

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dimensions and creates a laminer airflow stream across its entire length ensuring

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that everything ends up evenly cooled only problem is that makes them kind of

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irrelevant for to style PCS so I guess

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that answers that question but in theory they should be great for servers then so

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why isn't that a thing to answer that we need to talk about the downsides servers

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need minimal downtime and having five small axial fans instead of one big

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cross flow means that one or more of those little fans can die without losing

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all of the cooling capacity of your server this gives the administrator time

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to install a replacement of course that could be overcome if it was for some of

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the other issues that we've uh tiptoed around until now in addition to our

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original three factors there's money and

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niches crossflow fans being less common

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and more complex tend to fail more often

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and tend to cost more than typical PC cooling fans not to mention it can be

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harder to find replacements and in an industry where every penny counts and

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standardization drives prices down well

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the cheaper standard solution is going to be the one that wins anywh who are we

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finally going to talk about the price of this thing yeah it's uh it's expensive

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$360 is the price and that's just for

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the case yeah that's not including some of the extras that we got like the

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handle and stuff I see to be fair

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they're a really small operation just a few people it's a small run of a case

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it's all metal incredible premium build that's true and I got no problem with

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any of that and really weird just doing something different and non-standard

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means that they're going to have to come up with all sorts of solutions to manufacture it which is going to drive

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up the price further the fans are expensive compared to like a $6 whatever

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fan for a normal computer you have to spend like what did you what did we see

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like $30 minimum they were in the range of like 20 to $30 starting price that's

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for the manufacturer not for the end consumer so like the whole thing is just

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expensive but it's also really really cool but that's not the same thing as

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overpriced because there's a justification for why it costs so much

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