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you've saved your box tops fished under the couch cushions and pulled together

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all your leftover lunch money and you are finally ready to build your first

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gaming rig but what do you choose

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AMD Intel

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we couldn't decide either so today we're going to be building not one but two

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budget-friendly gaming pcs each coming in at around a thousand us dollars and

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we're gonna put them head-to-head to see just how they perform

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the build starts with one of the best budget cpus on the market right now the

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AMD ryzen 3 3100 what's so great about

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this is it uses the same zen 2 architecture as their higher priced

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products but in a more

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bite-sized package so instead of having six or 8 or 12 or 16 cores it's got just

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four cores but they're fast ones and like the rest of AMD's ryzen lineup

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there's full support for overclocking compared to our CPU our motherboard is

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an area where we actually went beyond the bare minimum though to be clear the

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b550 phantom gaming 4 from azrock isn't a high-end board but what it does have

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is an upgrade path so in addition to having a couple of m.2 slots for ssds

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it's got support for pci express gen 4 in both the top 16x slot and top SSD

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slot if we ever wanted to upgrade the graphics card and it's got out of the

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box compatibility with zen 3 ryzen 5000

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series processors which up until this point have such high core counts and

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high prices that they don't necessarily make sense for a budget build but that

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doesn't mean it's not worth spending the extra you know 20 bucks or 30 bucks to

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have the ability to go that route in the future representing Intel we've got the

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core i3 10 100 just like our AMD competitor it's got four cores and eight

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threads but unlike our AMD competitor it

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is not capable of overclocking at all which did inform some of our other parts

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choices for example our motherboard we could have gone with the h470 phantom

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gaming 4 which does have another m.2 slot a couple more power phases as well

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as slightly better usb connectivity but

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because that didn't give us any overclocking potential and stepping all

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the way up to a z series chipset just wasn't in the cards at this price point

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we decided to save the what is it like 20 bucks 30 bucks something like that

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yeah the last key difference between our two systems is our memory for the AMD

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system we're using g skill rip jaws v and for the Intel system we're using g

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skill rip jaws v but at a slightly

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slower speed g-skill rightly pointed out when we requested memory for this

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project that the Intel system wouldn't be able to take advantage of anything

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higher than 2933 megahertz now because

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3200 megahertz was exactly the same price at current promo pricing we opted

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to go for that anyway with that out of the way to save you

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guys some time and boredom we're going to talk about the rest of the parts with

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just one of the systems the AMD one while colin assembles the other one on

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the counter over there let's start then with the cooler we've gone with a

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classic here ladies and gentlemen this is the hyper 212 evo v2 it's got a 120

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millimeter fan it's a tower design with four heat pipes and they make direct

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contact with the ihs of the CPU

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basically this has been the go-to for like

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10 years for cheap and cheerful CPU

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cooling if you don't have an included cooler of course one common drawback

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with budget oriented coolers is that the installation is well let's just say it's

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some assembly required it's not difficult by any stretch of the

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imagination but it does take a little bit more time than something like a

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knock to a cooler once it's on there though hey that looks pretty freaking

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great and the cherry on top is to tie our fan cable in a nice little bow and

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plug it into the CPU fan header in line with our theme of building a

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pretty nice gaming machine without wasting any money we've gone with the evga 550 b5 power supply it's a decent

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quality unit with 80 plus bronze efficiency it's got a nice quiet fan

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that can even be turned off that's right my friends it's got a

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silent fan mode and it's one of the most inexpensive units on the market with a

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fully modular interface while there are a ton of other cases on the market we

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really like the 275r airflow for its good mix of price features and

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performance it's got a tempered glass side panel filtered air intake on the

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bottom excellent oh there you go airflow through the front three included 120

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millimeter fans and really nice looking cable management that's going to give

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our build a really clean look when we're done this isn't by any means a

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step-by-step build guide but i also don't want to gloss over important stuff

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like this with budget boards you do still have to install your own i o

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shield which a lot of the time means bending these things and making sure

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that they're not in the way once the motherboard actually goes in

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try not to cut yourself this is like the highest probability of cutting yourself

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part of dang it is it just cheaper to produce like external ones than to build them

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into the motherboard because it's not just the cost of the actual units it's

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like the tooling cost of creating the shroud and stuff because the i o is so

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different on every motherboard like we blew so much of this thousand dollar

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budget on the graphics card and the only way we can do that is by saving

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three bucks here and two bucks there okay

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for storage we normally steer clear of dram-less ssds for your operating system

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but in this case because we're looking for a reasonable amount of capacity

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faster than a hard drive and we don't want to spend any more than we have to

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the patriot burst 960 gig ticks a lot of boxes one thing we might recommend in

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the future as an upgrade when you've got a bit of extra budget is switch over to

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using your SATA SSD just for your game drive and run your os off of an NVMe

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drive that you put in later at around 500 us dollars our MSI mech Radeon 5700

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xt represents about half of our total budget but given that this is a gaming

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machine not a video editing pc or

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3d modeling pc i think that is more than

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justified and there's a lot of bang for the buck to be had here it's got a fast

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GPU it's got 8 gigs of gddr6 memory and

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it doesn't have fancies like HDMI 2.1 or

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pci express gen 4 but if you want to play aaa games at

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anywhere from i'd say up to 1440p

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this is your ticket unfortunately attempting to enable xmp and get it

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running at ddr4 3600 was a no-go even

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though it's like supported but i still think we can do better than 2933 which

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is what colin's gonna be stuck with with the Intel system there so we're just

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gonna go to oh yes drm frequency let's

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try 3 200. we could have saved our three dollars

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here though now that the machines are built it's

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time for the head-to-head showdown which of course means 1v1 but also with bots

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on our side so whatever don't worry about it csgo

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with my ryzen 3 i had a hard time running it anything higher than stock

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RAM settings and i couldn't tell you whether that's down to my particular chips integrated memory controller or my

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motherboard but that could be a significant disadvantage for my system

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right now in spite of the fact that i have fast RAM installed in it as for

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whether that's actually a competitive advantage i guess we'll find out soon enough

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no spring prank yes headshot you know

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what the bottom line is though regardless of who wins see that's what a

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nice winner i am yeah is like these are both great experiences i'm having a

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great time yeah i'm sure you're having a great time headshotting me every time you come

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around the corner something to note though is i'm actually

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hosting our server but cs go server is not like a super

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intensive workload by any stretch okay we're going dual berettas dual berettas

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boys wait what my my boss dead already what the

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i didn't do it no you really didn't your bot killed both of us

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oh she's kind of i kind of fear colin's blot more than him

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hey there's games that colin's good at this just doesn't happen to be one of

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them that's why i picked it so this is cool we're recording gameplay on our

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graphics card i'm running a server and

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we're both still running at like 200 250

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FPS not too freaking shabby hey i've only

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got like an extra 20 FPS on you is it worth like having the other person on

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the server see if it's comparable i see what you're saying like to make sure

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that that's not a huge performance difference honestly to me it doesn't

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really affect the conclusion much here though because i'm looking at this going

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man for a thousand dollars boy can you ever

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get a whole hell of a lot of gaming like

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this 1440p absolutely maxed out yeah it's an esports title but you are

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getting an extremely competitive experience here yeah there's nothing

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wrong with this gaming experience on either side and we can run some more

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benchmarks if you really want to know which one edges out the other so why

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don't we do that yeah which brings us perfectly to our next game where you

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might notice i've chosen a canned benchmark rather than a head-to-head

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battle got him seven three two one here we go

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oh wow you might have looked good in cs go but

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uh we're running at the same settings 1440p absolutely cranked and that Intel

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CPU is uh holding back the GPU a little

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bit here remember these systems are identical other than

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the CPU and then the motherboard obviously to go with it i mean i guess

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that's what an extra 100 bucks get you yes and no because if it wasn't for

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prices being driven up by the holiday madness and shortages on AMD cpus

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these would be basically the same darn price and we didn't have to go b550 we could

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have saved a buck and gone with a lower end chipset knowing that we would have

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to update the BIOS in order to get our third gen ryzen processor to work on it

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out of the box so we could have gone b 450 and been right around the same price

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okay now my minimums crossed you my low one

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percent FPS are way above this must have

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just been one frame this is clearly a better result low 0.1 percent even way

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better well with uh that crushing defeat let's open up 3dmark you already ran

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that right i did already run it so we can just load up the results perfect

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and you come out ahead yes in every possible way i'm glad you asked

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why that happened yes he didn't yet but he was going

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the reason is that synthetic benchmarks

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just cannot simulate every possible

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gaming scenario every game engine and

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every individual game using that engine

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can have different idiosyncrasies that run better or worse on different

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hardware and that's why we don't even talk about 3dmark in our graphics card

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and CPU reviews now if you're doing something like overclocking it's a

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valuable tool because it tells you on identical hardware am i faster than i

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was before or slower than i was before but it's not great for comparing

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non-identical hardware now let's actually carry on that theme

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and fire up cyberpunk

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illustrate that point AMD is actually coming slightly behind our Intel system

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in this particular game cyberpunk 2077

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is about eight to ten percent slower on our AMD

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versus Intel system remember again using exactly the same graphics card and

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exactly the same settings we're running on the medium preset at 1440p i mean

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this is pretty indicative and i mean as we're sitting here like i'm cooler and

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also faster i didn't even notice that you were running cooler right now how's

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our 99th percentile oh wow you're way ahead in that okay well that's pretty

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much it that's the conclusion for a thousand bucks you can get a fantastic

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gaming experience whether you decide to go AMD or Intel as for

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which one is slightly ahead of the other it's going

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to come down to which games you want to play for my money i prefer the white box

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here and the reason is that it's got a more clear upgrade path

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but we also don't know for sure how rocket

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lake from Intel which is also going to be on that same lga 1200 socket is going

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to stack up which means no matter who comes out ahead AMD or Intel the big win

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maybe check out the one where i took an old dell like frankenstein office pc and

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turned it into a gaming rig it's pretty freaking sick and one thing we forgot to

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this is looking pretty compelling just saying i'm not going all pcmr on it i'm

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just saying just say

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no okay