WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.330 this video on air versus water cooling 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:13.469 has two million views it looks like crap 00:00:08.330 --> 00:00:15.870 time for an HD remake and it's not just 00:00:13.469 --> 00:00:21.660 a pure sellout move to capitalize on an idea that we already know works because 00:00:18.090 --> 00:00:23.850 a lot more has changed since that video 00:00:21.660 --> 00:00:31.800 then our production values around here in particular AMD's high performance not 00:00:27.689 --> 00:00:34.530 to mention huge and hot 180 watt thread 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:39.469 Ripper CPUs are pushing the limits of all types of cooling systems in ways 00:00:37.170 --> 00:00:48.570 that we haven't never seen before so what's the ultimate cooler for the 00:00:42.300 --> 00:00:53.380 ultimate CPU we have the answer 00:00:55.790 --> 00:01:01.140 the white dark bass pro 900 from be 00:00:59.160 --> 00:01:05.040 quiet features a modular design to support a variety of layouts and 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:11.210 configurations check it out at the link below we'll be testing six coolers that 00:01:09.150 --> 00:01:18.600 on previous platforms have delivered comparable results three air and three 00:01:15.090 --> 00:01:20.820 liquid four water coolers MD helpfully 00:01:18.600 --> 00:01:25.619 provided an ASA tech compatible TR for mount in the CPU box so we're able to 00:01:23.160 --> 00:01:31.979 use our existing stable of compatible course our H series a iOS which is cool 00:01:28.470 --> 00:01:35.640 because that means so can you we've got 00:01:31.979 --> 00:01:38.340 120 millimeter 240 millimeter and 280 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:44.160 millimeter radiator versions with all of them featuring the same ASA tech design 00:01:40.170 --> 00:01:47.399 CPU block and in the H 115 eyes case a 00:01:44.160 --> 00:01:50.160 slightly more powerful pump in a stroke 00:01:47.399 --> 00:01:54.780 of either luck or AMD foresight the blocks are just big enough that even 00:01:52.890 --> 00:02:01.590 though the heat spreader sticks out the heat producing die area for thread 00:01:57.570 --> 00:02:04.979 Ripper is covered so while these are 00:02:01.590 --> 00:02:06.420 mainly meant for more square cpus we 00:02:04.979 --> 00:02:12.569 have no reason to believe that you should worry about it as for our air 00:02:08.940 --> 00:02:15.569 coolers well due to their wildly varying 00:02:12.569 --> 00:02:17.160 shapes and mounting mechanisms not many 00:02:15.569 --> 00:02:21.900 of them have been retrofitted with support for socket tr4 yet which is 00:02:20.160 --> 00:02:27.660 where naktu as new line-up comes in they're visually and for the most part 00:02:24.739 --> 00:02:33.690 functionally identical to their non tr4 cousins but when you turn them over you 00:02:31.230 --> 00:02:40.349 are immediately greeted with plates big and shiny enough to host a fancy dinner 00:02:36.480 --> 00:02:42.690 party this huge mount is common on each 00:02:40.349 --> 00:02:50.040 of them right down to the 92 millimeter Nhu 9 because Noctua decided to bake in 00:02:46.739 --> 00:02:53.879 support for AMD's on socket mounting 00:02:50.040 --> 00:02:57.090 points a good idea because well let's 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:57.950 just say that taking this apart isn't a 00:02:57.090 --> 00:03:04.680 good idea now to testing while our old standard 00:03:02.489 --> 00:03:09.719 death version of this video discussed performance with different 00:03:06.930 --> 00:03:14.010 and configurations inside a case our video today will focus on the 00:03:11.579 --> 00:03:19.230 temperature differences between the coolers themselves right out of the box 00:03:16.409 --> 00:03:24.060 so it should then be noted that you could get slightly better performance 00:03:21.060 --> 00:03:26.700 out of these AI OS by adding more fans 00:03:24.060 --> 00:03:31.620 in a push-pull configuration and the same can be said of the two tower 00:03:28.859 --> 00:03:35.400 coolers another trick up our sleeve this time around is that we're going to be 00:03:33.450 --> 00:03:41.549 running our Threadripper nineteen fifty X in both stock and overclocked 00:03:37.739 --> 00:03:43.319 configurations furthermore this time we 00:03:41.549 --> 00:03:47.609 are in a climate controlled twenty four degrees Celsius environment not my 00:03:45.480 --> 00:03:51.299 garage during the winter so our results should be more comparable to what you 00:03:49.049 --> 00:03:58.319 can achieve at home but enough talk let's do the results starting off then 00:03:54.840 --> 00:04:01.680 with our H Adi GT and Noctua n hu nine 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:04.139 we're seeing some pretty ok numbers for 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:09.359 stock performance with similar low temperatures and package power 00:04:06.859 --> 00:04:17.669 overclocked on the other hand shows again similar numbers but markedly lower 00:04:13.859 --> 00:04:20.070 package power for the H Adi GT meaning 00:04:17.669 --> 00:04:25.349 that it's throttling more to maintain that same 87 degrees so in the 00:04:23.159 --> 00:04:32.760 lightweight category air cooling comes away with a clear victory the next step 00:04:28.320 --> 00:04:36.180 up is the NH u 12 s and H 100 IV two and 00:04:32.760 --> 00:04:38.900 again we see almost identical numbers 00:04:36.180 --> 00:04:44.039 between these guys at stock speeds looking now at the overclocking results 00:04:41.370 --> 00:04:49.440 we've got a much narrower lead for the Noctua fan over the Corsair AIO as far 00:04:46.949 --> 00:04:53.780 as package power goes meaning that they've throttled just about evenly so 00:04:51.960 --> 00:05:01.199 we're gonna call this one a tie bringing us to the main event the Nhu 14 00:04:58.229 --> 00:05:06.509 s weather versus the h 115 i've rhaegar both of them lasted all 12 rounds 00:05:04.139 --> 00:05:12.030 maintaining maximum performance in both the stock and overclocked tests and this 00:05:10.080 --> 00:05:19.010 is incredible considering we've got all 16 cores pinned to 3.9 gigahertz but 00:05:16.790 --> 00:05:23.900 this kind of a match isn't about pinning and the knock - I ran a few degrees 00:05:21.290 --> 00:05:30.440 cooler so we have to award it the win by technical knockout of course performance 00:05:27.740 --> 00:05:37.190 is only part of the equation aesthetics and physical compatibility are key 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:39.140 considerations as well water coolers do 00:05:37.190 --> 00:05:44.870 come with an additional mechanical point of failure the pump but they look sexy 00:05:42.170 --> 00:05:49.730 and it's becoming more and more common for small form-factor cases to have 00:05:47.150 --> 00:05:55.640 mounts for 120 or 240 millimeter radiators but not enough clearance for 00:05:52.340 --> 00:05:58.070 comparable air coolers and it's also 00:05:55.640 --> 00:06:03.890 worth considering that large AIO coolers like the h 115 i are generally far 00:06:01.280 --> 00:06:09.530 easier to work around inside a chassis than a larger air cooler especially 00:06:06.320 --> 00:06:13.520 where RAM slots are concerned with that 00:06:09.530 --> 00:06:16.190 said price is kind of a big deal - and 00:06:13.520 --> 00:06:21.020 not too as solutions even though they're not the cheapest air coolers out there 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:26.750 generally come out ahead of the water cooling equivalents by a significant 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:28.670 margin here so TL DR then if you're not 00:06:26.750 --> 00:06:34.730 planning on overclocking Threadripper it's actually a relatively easy beast to 00:06:31.910 --> 00:06:40.340 tame but overclock it and you'll need to set aside some budget for a beefy cooler 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:46.250 also if your priority is performance you'll reach for an air cooler or custom 00:06:43.310 --> 00:06:51.620 water cooling but water cooling is a great choice if a more compact easy to 00:06:49.400 --> 00:06:58.600 work in and subjectively better-looking machine is what you're 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