1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,330 this video on air versus water cooling 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:13,469 has two million views it looks like crap 3 00:00:08,330 --> 00:00:15,870 time for an HD remake and it's not just 4 00:00:13,469 --> 00:00:21,660 a pure sellout move to capitalize on an idea that we already know works because 5 00:00:18,090 --> 00:00:23,850 a lot more has changed since that video 6 00:00:21,660 --> 00:00:31,800 then our production values around here in particular AMD's high performance not 7 00:00:27,689 --> 00:00:34,530 to mention huge and hot 180 watt thread 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:39,469 Ripper CPUs are pushing the limits of all types of cooling systems in ways 9 00:00:37,170 --> 00:00:48,570 that we haven't never seen before so what's the ultimate cooler for the 10 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:53,380 ultimate CPU we have the answer 11 00:00:55,790 --> 00:01:01,140 the white dark bass pro 900 from be 12 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:05,040 quiet features a modular design to support a variety of layouts and 13 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:11,210 configurations check it out at the link below we'll be testing six coolers that 14 00:01:09,150 --> 00:01:18,600 on previous platforms have delivered comparable results three air and three 15 00:01:15,090 --> 00:01:20,820 liquid four water coolers MD helpfully 16 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:25,619 provided an ASA tech compatible TR for mount in the CPU box so we're able to 17 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:31,979 use our existing stable of compatible course our H series a iOS which is cool 18 00:01:28,470 --> 00:01:35,640 because that means so can you we've got 19 00:01:31,979 --> 00:01:38,340 120 millimeter 240 millimeter and 280 20 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:44,160 millimeter radiator versions with all of them featuring the same ASA tech design 21 00:01:40,170 --> 00:01:47,399 CPU block and in the H 115 eyes case a 22 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:50,160 slightly more powerful pump in a stroke 23 00:01:47,399 --> 00:01:54,780 of either luck or AMD foresight the blocks are just big enough that even 24 00:01:52,890 --> 00:02:01,590 though the heat spreader sticks out the heat producing die area for thread 25 00:01:57,570 --> 00:02:04,979 Ripper is covered so while these are 26 00:02:01,590 --> 00:02:06,420 mainly meant for more square cpus we 27 00:02:04,979 --> 00:02:12,569 have no reason to believe that you should worry about it as for our air 28 00:02:08,940 --> 00:02:15,569 coolers well due to their wildly varying 29 00:02:12,569 --> 00:02:17,160 shapes and mounting mechanisms not many 30 00:02:15,569 --> 00:02:21,900 of them have been retrofitted with support for socket tr4 yet which is 31 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:27,660 where naktu as new line-up comes in they're visually and for the most part 32 00:02:24,739 --> 00:02:33,690 functionally identical to their non tr4 cousins but when you turn them over you 33 00:02:31,230 --> 00:02:40,349 are immediately greeted with plates big and shiny enough to host a fancy dinner 34 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:42,690 party this huge mount is common on each 35 00:02:40,349 --> 00:02:50,040 of them right down to the 92 millimeter Nhu 9 because Noctua decided to bake in 36 00:02:46,739 --> 00:02:53,879 support for AMD's on socket mounting 37 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:57,090 points a good idea because well let's 38 00:02:53,879 --> 00:02:57,950 just say that taking this apart isn't a 39 00:02:57,090 --> 00:03:04,680 good idea now to testing while our old standard 40 00:03:02,489 --> 00:03:09,719 death version of this video discussed performance with different 41 00:03:06,930 --> 00:03:14,010 and configurations inside a case our video today will focus on the 42 00:03:11,579 --> 00:03:19,230 temperature differences between the coolers themselves right out of the box 43 00:03:16,409 --> 00:03:24,060 so it should then be noted that you could get slightly better performance 44 00:03:21,060 --> 00:03:26,700 out of these AI OS by adding more fans 45 00:03:24,060 --> 00:03:31,620 in a push-pull configuration and the same can be said of the two tower 46 00:03:28,859 --> 00:03:35,400 coolers another trick up our sleeve this time around is that we're going to be 47 00:03:33,450 --> 00:03:41,549 running our Threadripper nineteen fifty X in both stock and overclocked 48 00:03:37,739 --> 00:03:43,319 configurations furthermore this time we 49 00:03:41,549 --> 00:03:47,609 are in a climate controlled twenty four degrees Celsius environment not my 50 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:51,299 garage during the winter so our results should be more comparable to what you 51 00:03:49,049 --> 00:03:58,319 can achieve at home but enough talk let's do the results starting off then 52 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:01,680 with our H Adi GT and Noctua n hu nine 53 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:04,139 we're seeing some pretty ok numbers for 54 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:09,359 stock performance with similar low temperatures and package power 55 00:04:06,859 --> 00:04:17,669 overclocked on the other hand shows again similar numbers but markedly lower 56 00:04:13,859 --> 00:04:20,070 package power for the H Adi GT meaning 57 00:04:17,669 --> 00:04:25,349 that it's throttling more to maintain that same 87 degrees so in the 58 00:04:23,159 --> 00:04:32,760 lightweight category air cooling comes away with a clear victory the next step 59 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:36,180 up is the NH u 12 s and H 100 IV two and 60 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:38,900 again we see almost identical numbers 61 00:04:36,180 --> 00:04:44,039 between these guys at stock speeds looking now at the overclocking results 62 00:04:41,370 --> 00:04:49,440 we've got a much narrower lead for the Noctua fan over the Corsair AIO as far 63 00:04:46,949 --> 00:04:53,780 as package power goes meaning that they've throttled just about evenly so 64 00:04:51,960 --> 00:05:01,199 we're gonna call this one a tie bringing us to the main event the Nhu 14 65 00:04:58,229 --> 00:05:06,509 s weather versus the h 115 i've rhaegar both of them lasted all 12 rounds 66 00:05:04,139 --> 00:05:12,030 maintaining maximum performance in both the stock and overclocked tests and this 67 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:19,010 is incredible considering we've got all 16 cores pinned to 3.9 gigahertz but 68 00:05:16,790 --> 00:05:23,900 this kind of a match isn't about pinning and the knock - I ran a few degrees 69 00:05:21,290 --> 00:05:30,440 cooler so we have to award it the win by technical knockout of course performance 70 00:05:27,740 --> 00:05:37,190 is only part of the equation aesthetics and physical compatibility are key 71 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:39,140 considerations as well water coolers do 72 00:05:37,190 --> 00:05:44,870 come with an additional mechanical point of failure the pump but they look sexy 73 00:05:42,170 --> 00:05:49,730 and it's becoming more and more common for small form-factor cases to have 74 00:05:47,150 --> 00:05:55,640 mounts for 120 or 240 millimeter radiators but not enough clearance for 75 00:05:52,340 --> 00:05:58,070 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