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ribbon cables suck can you see all those ribbon cables I've been thinking about

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buying a new keyboard because I've been daily driving is 60 recently but I

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really still want that numpad and I don't want to buy an extra one but

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mountains they've got a new 60 and a

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numpad that can connect to it what if you don't know anything about Everest

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and Mountain they've been making keyboards I think the company is

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actually mountain and the keyboard is Everest um they've been making keyboards for I

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think four years or something now I think this company started like 2018.

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basically they've got these really cool modular keyboards where you can take a

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numpad and you can slot it into it because for any of those of you who

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don't know what a 60 keyboard is it's basically a really small layout using 60

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of a full keyboard so you're missing stuff like your afro you're missing your

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numpad sometimes you're missing arrow keys depending on like the actual layout

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of everything you've often got some smaller Keys as well like maybe your tab

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and enter are a little shorter than you're used to and it looks something

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like this so I've actually taken this

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one home a couple days early I really wanted to open it up and take a look

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inside because mountain is doing a few or they're claiming to do a few things

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uh mostly they're targeting the more Enthusiast Market by adding silicone on

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the bottom and foam silicone is

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sound dampening but it's also just for weight and then the foam layer is mostly

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like a sound thing it does make things feel a bit sturdier but it mostly helps

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you absorb some sound and give you that like more thoughty sound that you're

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looking for or at least a lot of people are looking for on top of making this

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new 60 board they've also got their three switches that have come out

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they've got a 45 linear a 45 linear

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speed which has a shorter travel distance and then the one I took home

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which is a 55 tactile that I actually

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really like I think that it's a little too heavy for me personally even though

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55 shouldn't be to be honest but it feels great when you actually just sit

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here and kind of randomly type on it but my issue is as soon as I took it home

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and I started actively like chatting with people or like playing games or

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whatever it was just a little bit too much they all come pre-lubed which is

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great however Factory lubing isn't always the most uniform you know you'll

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have some switches that feel great and then you'll have some that don't quite feel as good I also think that you can

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typically do a better job on yours like by yourself if you have crytok's 205 g0

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and a lot of time on your hands

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um however I think they've done a pretty good job frankly this is the 45 linear

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and we'll just take a quick listen to it

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but like that sounds pretty good it's not the best sounding keyboard I've ever

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had but like it's pretty decent check out the stabilizers

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these feel pretty good they're a little too stiff I'm not exactly sure what they

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lubed them with or if they're using some kind of um like foam mod up against the

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bar uh but they feel pretty good comparatively oh yeah we should probably

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look at all the other stuff in the Box um there's more than just a keyboard I

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promise uh what else you get in the Box you get a cable it's

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um it's sleeved but it's not coiled that's fine see how it comes with this

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handy dandy hotkey guide which is really nice because qmk doesn't work with the

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board at least not yet this is embargoed so maybe it just wasn't up yet but

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either way you've got to use their base camp software oh on the other side

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there's a bunch of stuff about it so it's hot swappable which is already a

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huge plus like basically any new keyboard coming out that costs more than

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a hundred dollars if it's not hot swappable I'm just not really interested to be

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honest for sure of course hair this is pretty neat it shows you how the

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numpad connects to the main board and then it shows you how oh another huge

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feature that I actually love on this thing is it's got three different USB

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ports that you can connect to on the front different custom cables are going

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to be arranged differently sometimes you want them coiled and going out sometimes

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you want them going straight sometimes you want them going left whatever what happens is you have to plug it in and

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depending on where the plug is on your keyboard because somewhere in the middle

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somewhere on the left somewhere on the right fewer on the side actually even it

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can look bad basically I know that seems really minor but when you've paid like

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60 to 80 dollars for a cable and you've paid hundreds of dollars for a keyboard

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you want everything to line up nice and flush and straight and perfect angles

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it's a minor thing but when you care you

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really care about it so on top of our cable and our little guide

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is great you get a handy dandy keycap

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and switch puller these are my favorite I really don't like the tiny plastic

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ones I think these are essentially perfect you can get switches out no

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problem with this guy and then you can get keycaps off no problem with this guy

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here we also get a little extra key cap with the mountain logo and then you get

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this foam insert which contains the feet

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this is another really cool feature on this board I think it's on their other

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ones as well but I haven't really used those I've only used this guy so far so

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instead of like a flip down feet which

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are convenient I won't deny that these

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are just elegant and a really nice solution basically they're all magnetic

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and then you got them on the back of your keyboard as well so here's the base pieces

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this guy and this guy and these can be taken off if you don't like the base

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angle that this is resting on what you can do is you can take these little

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pucks and then you can stack them and then you put the end cap on

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and now it's taller yeah that's much more comfortable at least for me so on

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top of these magnetic feet which is a

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super cool design we've got the connections these are also magnetic for

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the USBC ports which fit outer

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handy dandy numpad so I actually didn't know this but apparently a few people

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have been starting to do this modular design that you can like attach multiple

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things to the same board and frankly I love it I'm pretty on board so this

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actually confused me I haven't used one of these before and when I originally

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opened it up I had no idea how you're supposed to connect it because I'm like

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well this doesn't go together at all but

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if you flip it over there's actually this really cool slider on the bottom

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there you go it's a little stiff but it pops out a USBC connector and boom

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just like that now you've got a tkl kind

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of tcals typically have like your afro and stuff so it's still a 60 plus really

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I don't know what I'd call this thing actually but I think I really like it

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actually it's great you can just you know use your numpad and then when you

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don't like it you take it off slide that pop this cover back on put it away so

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that's the other really nice thing is that say you don't like it on this side

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for whatever reason it works both ways so now you can just slot it onto the

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other side too boom now your numpad's over there I

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really like this thing but my one complaint actually does center around

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the numpad let's say you don't want to use it on either side

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let's say you want your keyboard here and then you want your numpad up here

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that's kind of what I have right now at home I've got my keyboard here and then

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I've got my numpad up here and then I've got my mouse right here so that I can just go whatever whatever I need numbers

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right there and then go back to my mouse you can't do that with this thing

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there's no front USBC port and I get it

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you can just hook it up to this guy that's fine but it is a small minor

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complaint that I kind of wish they would resolve now that we've talked about some

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of the features we should probably mention the actual quality of the keyboard itself it's a little flexi it's

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a brushed aluminum top plate but aside from that it's pretty much plastic I'm

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pretty sure it's a polycarb plate underneath and then there's also this

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like layer of RGB around the edge so we talk a lot of time about like what's

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inside a keyboard but we don't usually look inside them um just honestly don't typically have

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enough time on ShortCircuit but I really want to take the time to do that with this one because these guys are

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claiming a bunch of like foam inserts so for this guy I've actually taken a off

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all of the keycaps ahead of time and all we really have to do are take out these

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so there's one problem and I found this

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at home pretty quickly and it's actually the reason why I didn't take the whole

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thing completely stripped apart is because when you open it can you see all

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those ribbon cables typically you've got these tiny ribbon cables for daughter

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boards so you'll have often have the PCB up top and then you'll have the USBC

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connector on its own daughter board a lot of the time not every board some

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pcbs have them soldered on and that's fine but this because it's got those two

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extra sides that's like three daughter boards this thing is hooked up to you

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honestly as a normal consumer you probably don't want to open this

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keyboard that's I guess my other I had the one complaint about the numpad this

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is my one real complaint about the keyboard itself is that ribbon cables

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suck they're not that hard you know you get some tweezers you unplug them you plug

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them back in it's not that big of a deal but they're easy to break and they are a

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bit of a pain in the ass to actually put them back in So for the average person

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using this guy um I don't know if they're going to want

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to do much upgrading to the case itself the switches yeah you should probably

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Lube them but other than that I would leave it as is so

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what we've got though is this really nice silicone on the bottom and it's

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heavy stuff too because silicone is super dense and you end up with this

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like pretty nice kind of foam layer I've put foam down here before

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um but like thick neoprene foam not silicone so this is actually my first

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time using silicone and I think it's done a fine job my other kind of issue

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is that the like the foam that goes under the switches and under the PCB is

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it's not the most expensive foam it's not neoprene

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um or even anything better than that it's basically just like packing foam

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kind of it's a little nicer than what you get in the box but it's not Stellar

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so we cleaned up a little bit and then I grabbed the keyboard that I took home uh

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the other night and one thing we didn't really mention is that this comes with a

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ton of keycaps like so they send all of these and they're

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great we're not going to open every single box we'll have like some visual

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on screen but basically there's something like five or six different

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different types and then each of those you can get the B variant which is the

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inverse so instead of this like

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um what turquoise with white you can get white with turquoise pretty much

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everything for Cherry cross stems will

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work on these guys but these specifically from Mountain are PBT

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double shot you can see through them the RGB shines through nicely I it's it's

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not like the best keycaps I've ever seen some of the stuff could be a little

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nicer mostly the things with small holes

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in them like the A and the B on like Tab and caps lock and stuff it just the

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light doesn't shine perfectly through that ring super Minor Detail they feel

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fine they look nice and I actually really like them and yeah it's super

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simple I love how quickly it just works like you just plug in the numpad and it

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just instantly lights up and starts working it's awesome so yeah as you can

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see the double shot PBT so you can see like right through it shines it shines

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through really nicely you've got this whole diffusion layer layer around the

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outside as well I'm a really big fan of that personally it's taking forever to

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load don't know why it let me go to the lighting effects and

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then it's just like actually hold on a second we got some

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stuff to figure out

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no device connected all right it's like the software's running but there's like

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a weird like loading uh Circle

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change yeah like it's trying to do stuff

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cool so we actually really wanted to show you base camp but it the overall

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look of it looks great I'm sure it does everything that you want it to I can see

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all the effects and stuff they're just kind of grayed out you can make a bunch

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of profiles uh the problem is we're getting this loading spinner icon and I

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don't know why it only happens once I go into like a sub menu this product isn't

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out yet this is embargoed so it's probably just in beta it'll probably be

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updated I'm sure at launch it'll work great for us for now

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can't really try it all that much sorry

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the overall price of this thing is pretty decent as well I think it's 140

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if you want just the keyboard with any of the switches and then if you want the

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keyboard with your own keycap set from their selection it's an extra twenty

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dollars so 160 for a board plus keycaps

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and then if you want to buy them separately I think it's like 35 bucks for the keycaps and then

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because you don't have to buy it with the numpad you can then get the numpad

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for I think 40 or 50 bucks after that as well so it does add up to a little over

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two hundred dollars if you want to buy this full setup with a custom set of

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keycaps but I think by itself like this is a half decent 60 board Like It's Hot

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swap it's got arrow keys on it still you've got three different USBC ports to

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choose from for where you want to plug your cable in which is like it's such a

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minor feature but I can't get over how much I like it

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because it's just nice it'll fit both

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um five and three pin switches so don't worry too much about that should be

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basically compatible with whatever you want to put on this thing I don't know

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if I would buy it simply because I'm not crazy about 60 full price I personally

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wouldn't but if you're looking to buy a

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new keyboard and you can't decide between 60 or tkl but you're okay with

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like something kind of in between that then this is actually a really solid

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option so there you have it that's the mountain 60 it's pretty sweet if you

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like this video make sure to check out our other videos if you want to see one

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where I didn't like the keyboard so much maybe check out the Corsair k70 it's

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just kind of a little bit behind the times at this point not this guy though