1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,120 ribbon cables suck can you see all those ribbon cables I've been thinking about 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:10,980 buying a new keyboard because I've been daily driving is 60 recently but I 3 00:00:08,940 --> 00:00:17,460 really still want that numpad and I don't want to buy an extra one but 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:19,859 mountains they've got a new 60 and a 5 00:00:17,460 --> 00:00:22,800 numpad that can connect to it what if you don't know anything about Everest 6 00:00:21,119 --> 00:00:25,920 and Mountain they've been making keyboards I think the company is 7 00:00:24,300 --> 00:00:30,480 actually mountain and the keyboard is Everest um they've been making keyboards for I 8 00:00:28,740 --> 00:00:34,079 think four years or something now I think this company started like 2018. 9 00:00:32,579 --> 00:00:38,579 basically they've got these really cool modular keyboards where you can take a 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:42,660 numpad and you can slot it into it because for any of those of you who 11 00:00:40,260 --> 00:00:47,700 don't know what a 60 keyboard is it's basically a really small layout using 60 12 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:51,420 of a full keyboard so you're missing stuff like your afro you're missing your 13 00:00:49,860 --> 00:00:54,780 numpad sometimes you're missing arrow keys depending on like the actual layout 14 00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:57,780 of everything you've often got some smaller Keys as well like maybe your tab 15 00:00:56,460 --> 00:01:03,180 and enter are a little shorter than you're used to and it looks something 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,040 like this so I've actually taken this 17 00:01:03,180 --> 00:01:10,320 one home a couple days early I really wanted to open it up and take a look 18 00:01:07,799 --> 00:01:13,680 inside because mountain is doing a few or they're claiming to do a few things 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:19,740 uh mostly they're targeting the more Enthusiast Market by adding silicone on 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:21,360 the bottom and foam silicone is 21 00:01:19,740 --> 00:01:26,759 sound dampening but it's also just for weight and then the foam layer is mostly 22 00:01:24,659 --> 00:01:31,740 like a sound thing it does make things feel a bit sturdier but it mostly helps 23 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:35,040 you absorb some sound and give you that like more thoughty sound that you're 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:39,119 looking for or at least a lot of people are looking for on top of making this 25 00:01:37,079 --> 00:01:43,619 new 60 board they've also got their three switches that have come out 26 00:01:40,259 --> 00:01:45,479 they've got a 45 linear a 45 linear 27 00:01:43,619 --> 00:01:50,700 speed which has a shorter travel distance and then the one I took home 28 00:01:47,700 --> 00:01:53,100 which is a 55 tactile that I actually 29 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:57,299 really like I think that it's a little too heavy for me personally even though 30 00:01:55,140 --> 00:02:00,420 55 shouldn't be to be honest but it feels great when you actually just sit 31 00:01:58,500 --> 00:02:04,079 here and kind of randomly type on it but my issue is as soon as I took it home 32 00:02:01,860 --> 00:02:08,039 and I started actively like chatting with people or like playing games or 33 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:12,959 whatever it was just a little bit too much they all come pre-lubed which is 34 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:16,620 great however Factory lubing isn't always the most uniform you know you'll 35 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:22,319 have some switches that feel great and then you'll have some that don't quite feel as good I also think that you can 36 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:28,500 typically do a better job on yours like by yourself if you have crytok's 205 g0 37 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:30,360 and a lot of time on your hands 38 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:37,700 um however I think they've done a pretty good job frankly this is the 45 linear 39 00:02:32,940 --> 00:02:37,700 and we'll just take a quick listen to it 40 00:02:38,819 --> 00:02:44,340 but like that sounds pretty good it's not the best sounding keyboard I've ever 41 00:02:42,180 --> 00:02:48,060 had but like it's pretty decent check out the stabilizers 42 00:02:46,260 --> 00:02:51,840 these feel pretty good they're a little too stiff I'm not exactly sure what they 43 00:02:49,860 --> 00:02:57,000 lubed them with or if they're using some kind of um like foam mod up against the 44 00:02:54,480 --> 00:03:00,659 bar uh but they feel pretty good comparatively oh yeah we should probably 45 00:02:58,860 --> 00:03:04,440 look at all the other stuff in the Box um there's more than just a keyboard I 46 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:09,599 promise uh what else you get in the Box you get a cable it's 47 00:03:06,959 --> 00:03:13,980 um it's sleeved but it's not coiled that's fine see how it comes with this 48 00:03:11,580 --> 00:03:18,000 handy dandy hotkey guide which is really nice because qmk doesn't work with the 49 00:03:15,659 --> 00:03:21,720 board at least not yet this is embargoed so maybe it just wasn't up yet but 50 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:26,400 either way you've got to use their base camp software oh on the other side 51 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:30,780 there's a bunch of stuff about it so it's hot swappable which is already a 52 00:03:28,319 --> 00:03:34,620 huge plus like basically any new keyboard coming out that costs more than 53 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:41,280 a hundred dollars if it's not hot swappable I'm just not really interested to be 54 00:03:38,580 --> 00:03:45,959 honest for sure of course hair this is pretty neat it shows you how the 55 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:49,500 numpad connects to the main board and then it shows you how oh another huge 56 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,980 feature that I actually love on this thing is it's got three different USB 57 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:57,599 ports that you can connect to on the front different custom cables are going 58 00:03:55,860 --> 00:04:00,299 to be arranged differently sometimes you want them coiled and going out sometimes 59 00:03:59,159 --> 00:04:07,019 you want them going straight sometimes you want them going left whatever what happens is you have to plug it in and 60 00:04:04,739 --> 00:04:09,480 depending on where the plug is on your keyboard because somewhere in the middle 61 00:04:08,099 --> 00:04:15,060 somewhere on the left somewhere on the right fewer on the side actually even it 62 00:04:12,540 --> 00:04:20,040 can look bad basically I know that seems really minor but when you've paid like 63 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:24,180 60 to 80 dollars for a cable and you've paid hundreds of dollars for a keyboard 64 00:04:22,019 --> 00:04:29,880 you want everything to line up nice and flush and straight and perfect angles 65 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:31,620 it's a minor thing but when you care you 66 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:36,540 really care about it so on top of our cable and our little guide 67 00:04:33,419 --> 00:04:38,280 is great you get a handy dandy keycap 68 00:04:36,540 --> 00:04:42,240 and switch puller these are my favorite I really don't like the tiny plastic 69 00:04:40,380 --> 00:04:45,240 ones I think these are essentially perfect you can get switches out no 70 00:04:43,860 --> 00:04:49,440 problem with this guy and then you can get keycaps off no problem with this guy 71 00:04:46,979 --> 00:04:56,759 here we also get a little extra key cap with the mountain logo and then you get 72 00:04:52,979 --> 00:04:58,560 this foam insert which contains the feet 73 00:04:56,759 --> 00:05:01,800 this is another really cool feature on this board I think it's on their other 74 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:06,960 ones as well but I haven't really used those I've only used this guy so far so 75 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:10,440 instead of like a flip down feet which 76 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:12,300 are convenient I won't deny that these 77 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:16,080 are just elegant and a really nice solution basically they're all magnetic 78 00:05:14,699 --> 00:05:20,880 and then you got them on the back of your keyboard as well so here's the base pieces 79 00:05:19,259 --> 00:05:25,740 this guy and this guy and these can be taken off if you don't like the base 80 00:05:22,919 --> 00:05:29,699 angle that this is resting on what you can do is you can take these little 81 00:05:27,180 --> 00:05:34,979 pucks and then you can stack them and then you put the end cap on 82 00:05:32,580 --> 00:05:40,020 and now it's taller yeah that's much more comfortable at least for me so on 83 00:05:37,020 --> 00:05:41,460 top of these magnetic feet which is a 84 00:05:40,020 --> 00:05:48,900 super cool design we've got the connections these are also magnetic for 85 00:05:43,860 --> 00:05:51,660 the USBC ports which fit outer 86 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:54,840 handy dandy numpad so I actually didn't know this but apparently a few people 87 00:05:53,280 --> 00:06:00,240 have been starting to do this modular design that you can like attach multiple 88 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:03,900 things to the same board and frankly I love it I'm pretty on board so this 89 00:06:01,979 --> 00:06:08,460 actually confused me I haven't used one of these before and when I originally 90 00:06:05,699 --> 00:06:13,380 opened it up I had no idea how you're supposed to connect it because I'm like 91 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:15,240 well this doesn't go together at all but 92 00:06:13,380 --> 00:06:19,740 if you flip it over there's actually this really cool slider on the bottom 93 00:06:17,819 --> 00:06:27,419 there you go it's a little stiff but it pops out a USBC connector and boom 94 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:29,639 just like that now you've got a tkl kind 95 00:06:27,419 --> 00:06:34,500 of tcals typically have like your afro and stuff so it's still a 60 plus really 96 00:06:32,819 --> 00:06:39,120 I don't know what I'd call this thing actually but I think I really like it 97 00:06:37,259 --> 00:06:43,259 actually it's great you can just you know use your numpad and then when you 98 00:06:40,740 --> 00:06:48,300 don't like it you take it off slide that pop this cover back on put it away so 99 00:06:46,620 --> 00:06:52,680 that's the other really nice thing is that say you don't like it on this side 100 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:56,039 for whatever reason it works both ways so now you can just slot it onto the 101 00:06:54,599 --> 00:07:00,599 other side too boom now your numpad's over there I 102 00:06:58,740 --> 00:07:05,160 really like this thing but my one complaint actually does center around 103 00:07:02,940 --> 00:07:08,639 the numpad let's say you don't want to use it on either side 104 00:07:06,539 --> 00:07:11,940 let's say you want your keyboard here and then you want your numpad up here 105 00:07:10,199 --> 00:07:15,060 that's kind of what I have right now at home I've got my keyboard here and then 106 00:07:13,740 --> 00:07:20,280 I've got my numpad up here and then I've got my mouse right here so that I can just go whatever whatever I need numbers 107 00:07:18,539 --> 00:07:26,699 right there and then go back to my mouse you can't do that with this thing 108 00:07:22,020 --> 00:07:28,740 there's no front USBC port and I get it 109 00:07:26,699 --> 00:07:33,000 you can just hook it up to this guy that's fine but it is a small minor 110 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,000 complaint that I kind of wish they would resolve now that we've talked about some 111 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:43,380 of the features we should probably mention the actual quality of the keyboard itself it's a little flexi it's 112 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:46,500 a brushed aluminum top plate but aside from that it's pretty much plastic I'm 113 00:07:45,180 --> 00:07:51,240 pretty sure it's a polycarb plate underneath and then there's also this 114 00:07:48,419 --> 00:07:53,759 like layer of RGB around the edge so we talk a lot of time about like what's 115 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:58,319 inside a keyboard but we don't usually look inside them um just honestly don't typically have 116 00:07:56,759 --> 00:08:03,419 enough time on ShortCircuit but I really want to take the time to do that with this one because these guys are 117 00:08:00,539 --> 00:08:07,440 claiming a bunch of like foam inserts so for this guy I've actually taken a off 118 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:11,639 all of the keycaps ahead of time and all we really have to do are take out these 119 00:08:09,180 --> 00:08:15,300 I think there's eight uh little screws to do that we're going to use our iFixit 120 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:19,379 kit who was happy enough to sponsor this video I fix it makes it affordable to 121 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:23,759 fix or upgrade your devices using their custom fix kits everything from iPhone 122 00:08:21,599 --> 00:08:28,440 screen replacement kits to MacBook battery kits all kits include the parts 123 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:33,300 bits and tools you'll need to do your repairs iFixit even has repair guides 124 00:08:30,900 --> 00:08:36,599 with clear photos and instructions to prevent getting lost while deep in the 125 00:08:34,979 --> 00:08:41,700 repair check out our link down in the description to buy your ifixa kit today 126 00:08:38,279 --> 00:08:43,140 so there's one problem and I found this 127 00:08:41,700 --> 00:08:47,279 at home pretty quickly and it's actually the reason why I didn't take the whole 128 00:08:45,540 --> 00:08:52,920 thing completely stripped apart is because when you open it can you see all 129 00:08:50,519 --> 00:08:57,060 those ribbon cables typically you've got these tiny ribbon cables for daughter 130 00:08:54,360 --> 00:09:00,360 boards so you'll have often have the PCB up top and then you'll have the USBC 131 00:08:58,620 --> 00:09:03,600 connector on its own daughter board a lot of the time not every board some 132 00:09:01,860 --> 00:09:09,540 pcbs have them soldered on and that's fine but this because it's got those two 133 00:09:06,779 --> 00:09:14,459 extra sides that's like three daughter boards this thing is hooked up to you 134 00:09:11,580 --> 00:09:18,779 honestly as a normal consumer you probably don't want to open this 135 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:22,080 keyboard that's I guess my other I had the one complaint about the numpad this 136 00:09:20,339 --> 00:09:25,019 is my one real complaint about the keyboard itself is that ribbon cables 137 00:09:24,180 --> 00:09:29,580 suck they're not that hard you know you get some tweezers you unplug them you plug 138 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:34,440 them back in it's not that big of a deal but they're easy to break and they are a 139 00:09:32,519 --> 00:09:39,300 bit of a pain in the ass to actually put them back in So for the average person 140 00:09:37,019 --> 00:09:42,480 using this guy um I don't know if they're going to want 141 00:09:40,620 --> 00:09:46,860 to do much upgrading to the case itself the switches yeah you should probably 142 00:09:44,220 --> 00:09:51,720 Lube them but other than that I would leave it as is so 143 00:09:48,779 --> 00:09:56,580 what we've got though is this really nice silicone on the bottom and it's 144 00:09:54,180 --> 00:10:00,300 heavy stuff too because silicone is super dense and you end up with this 145 00:09:58,380 --> 00:10:04,860 like pretty nice kind of foam layer I've put foam down here before 146 00:10:02,820 --> 00:10:08,399 um but like thick neoprene foam not silicone so this is actually my first 147 00:10:06,959 --> 00:10:13,680 time using silicone and I think it's done a fine job my other kind of issue 148 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:18,660 is that the like the foam that goes under the switches and under the PCB is 149 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:21,240 it's not the most expensive foam it's not neoprene 150 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:26,519 um or even anything better than that it's basically just like packing foam 151 00:10:24,839 --> 00:10:31,680 kind of it's a little nicer than what you get in the box but it's not Stellar 152 00:10:29,399 --> 00:10:34,980 so we cleaned up a little bit and then I grabbed the keyboard that I took home uh 153 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:39,140 the other night and one thing we didn't really mention is that this comes with a 154 00:10:36,899 --> 00:10:43,440 ton of keycaps like so they send all of these and they're 155 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:47,399 great we're not going to open every single box we'll have like some visual 156 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:50,579 on screen but basically there's something like five or six different 157 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:55,680 different types and then each of those you can get the B variant which is the 158 00:10:52,620 --> 00:10:58,620 inverse so instead of this like 159 00:10:55,680 --> 00:11:03,600 um what turquoise with white you can get white with turquoise pretty much 160 00:11:00,420 --> 00:11:05,880 everything for Cherry cross stems will 161 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:10,740 work on these guys but these specifically from Mountain are PBT 162 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:15,300 double shot you can see through them the RGB shines through nicely I it's it's 163 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:19,740 not like the best keycaps I've ever seen some of the stuff could be a little 164 00:11:16,620 --> 00:11:22,500 nicer mostly the things with small holes 165 00:11:19,740 --> 00:11:26,579 in them like the A and the B on like Tab and caps lock and stuff it just the 166 00:11:24,660 --> 00:11:31,740 light doesn't shine perfectly through that ring super Minor Detail they feel 167 00:11:29,100 --> 00:11:35,760 fine they look nice and I actually really like them and yeah it's super 168 00:11:33,420 --> 00:11:39,540 simple I love how quickly it just works like you just plug in the numpad and it 169 00:11:37,740 --> 00:11:43,200 just instantly lights up and starts working it's awesome so yeah as you can 170 00:11:41,339 --> 00:11:47,880 see the double shot PBT so you can see like right through it shines it shines 171 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:52,800 through really nicely you've got this whole diffusion layer layer around the 172 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:56,100 outside as well I'm a really big fan of that personally it's taking forever to 173 00:11:54,839 --> 00:12:01,620 load don't know why it let me go to the lighting effects and 174 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:06,959 then it's just like actually hold on a second we got some 175 00:12:03,660 --> 00:12:08,820 stuff to figure out 176 00:12:06,959 --> 00:12:14,120 no device connected all right it's like the software's running but there's like 177 00:12:10,019 --> 00:12:14,120 a weird like loading uh Circle 178 00:12:14,180 --> 00:12:19,440 change yeah like it's trying to do stuff 179 00:12:17,579 --> 00:12:24,600 cool so we actually really wanted to show you base camp but it the overall 180 00:12:22,740 --> 00:12:27,959 look of it looks great I'm sure it does everything that you want it to I can see 181 00:12:26,459 --> 00:12:31,740 all the effects and stuff they're just kind of grayed out you can make a bunch 182 00:12:29,579 --> 00:12:36,839 of profiles uh the problem is we're getting this loading spinner icon and I 183 00:12:34,620 --> 00:12:41,760 don't know why it only happens once I go into like a sub menu this product isn't 184 00:12:40,260 --> 00:12:45,420 out yet this is embargoed so it's probably just in beta it'll probably be 185 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:50,660 updated I'm sure at launch it'll work great for us for now 186 00:12:47,639 --> 00:12:53,339 can't really try it all that much sorry 187 00:12:50,660 --> 00:12:58,440 the overall price of this thing is pretty decent as well I think it's 140 188 00:12:56,220 --> 00:13:03,240 if you want just the keyboard with any of the switches and then if you want the 189 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:08,579 keyboard with your own keycap set from their selection it's an extra twenty 190 00:13:05,220 --> 00:13:09,660 dollars so 160 for a board plus keycaps 191 00:13:08,579 --> 00:13:16,380 and then if you want to buy them separately I think it's like 35 bucks for the keycaps and then 192 00:13:13,860 --> 00:13:20,820 because you don't have to buy it with the numpad you can then get the numpad 193 00:13:18,540 --> 00:13:25,740 for I think 40 or 50 bucks after that as well so it does add up to a little over 194 00:13:24,060 --> 00:13:30,480 two hundred dollars if you want to buy this full setup with a custom set of 195 00:13:28,019 --> 00:13:35,339 keycaps but I think by itself like this is a half decent 60 board Like It's Hot 196 00:13:33,180 --> 00:13:39,600 swap it's got arrow keys on it still you've got three different USBC ports to 197 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:42,959 choose from for where you want to plug your cable in which is like it's such a 198 00:13:41,699 --> 00:13:48,720 minor feature but I can't get over how much I like it 199 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:51,240 because it's just nice it'll fit both 200 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:56,040 um five and three pin switches so don't worry too much about that should be 201 00:13:53,519 --> 00:14:00,240 basically compatible with whatever you want to put on this thing I don't know 202 00:13:57,959 --> 00:14:06,420 if I would buy it simply because I'm not crazy about 60 full price I personally 203 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:07,980 wouldn't but if you're looking to buy a 204 00:14:06,420 --> 00:14:13,560 new keyboard and you can't decide between 60 or tkl but you're okay with 205 00:14:11,699 --> 00:14:17,880 like something kind of in between that then this is actually a really solid 206 00:14:15,779 --> 00:14:22,920 option so there you have it that's the mountain 60 it's pretty sweet if you 207 00:14:21,180 --> 00:14:26,519 like this video make sure to check out our other videos if you want to see one 208 00:14:24,839 --> 00:14:31,980 where I didn't like the keyboard so much maybe check out the Corsair k70 it's 209 00:14:29,579 --> 00:14:36,079 just kind of a little bit behind the times at this point not this guy though