WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.839 oh wow my Venus my fire my desire no 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:11.219 we're not unboxing a waifu but there is a beautiful waifu on the front of it 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:16.859 we're unboxing Moon drops Venus they're planar magnetic headphones from 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:20.460 from Moon drop the lauded in-ear monitor producing company that came out of the 00:00:18.900 --> 00:00:25.380 scene in 2015 and has continually been shaking up the IEM world at pretty much 00:00:23.460 --> 00:00:31.560 every price point by releasing lots of really really cool headphones at really 00:00:27.840 --> 00:00:33.660 really cheap prices like their 20 Moon 00:00:31.560 --> 00:00:37.440 drop shoes which are like okay they're fine but they're still 20 for what you 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:42.000 get it's a pretty good deal or their blessing too which was a huge huge price 00:00:39.660 --> 00:00:46.620 proposition being at 330 dollars and was competing with like 600 700 iems but now 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:52.620 they're trying to make their transition into headphones which is not a transition that many companies have been 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:56.399 the most successful at you think that it should be pretty easy if you can make a 00:00:54.420 --> 00:01:00.480 good earbud then you can probably make a good headphone but that's not the case 00:00:58.020 --> 00:01:06.000 look at Sennheiser Sennheiser is famous for making some of the best headphones 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:08.880 of all time and they have like one good 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:11.340 in-ear monitor what's the deal well it turns out that they're actually a lot 00:01:10.080 --> 00:01:14.880 more different than they are the same but that didn't that didn't scare Moon 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:19.619 drop at all because Moon drops actually releasing three different headphones 00:01:17.340 --> 00:01:23.520 they're releasing their lower end Moon drop void a dynamic driver headphone 00:01:21.900 --> 00:01:29.100 they're also going to be releasing their high-end Moon drop zero a electrostatic 00:01:27.060 --> 00:01:33.840 headphone and they're releasing the Venus a planar magnetic headphone 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:36.780 but the question is are these ones good today we didn't even look at the Box we 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:40.560 didn't look at the outside of the box let me don't look here stop looking I 00:01:39.420 --> 00:01:44.460 don't know if you can like buy these in a storefront really so the box design is kind of interesting because usually 00:01:43.380 --> 00:01:50.700 gonna be shopping for expensive headphones you'll see the models out on the floor as opposed to like in their 00:01:47.820 --> 00:01:54.240 boxes but they do always go above and beyond when it comes to putting a girl 00:01:52.320 --> 00:01:58.439 on the Box on the back there's this cool breakdown of the actual structure of the 00:01:56.820 --> 00:02:02.820 drivers you can see there's a diaphragm this frames the Staters for the magnets 00:02:00.600 --> 00:02:07.380 as well as a frequency response graph that isn't really the most easy to read 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:11.160 or detailed but they're it's cool that they're actually reporting what they've 00:02:08.459 --> 00:02:13.319 measured it on as well as their response and then they just say Target and we 00:02:12.660 --> 00:02:18.060 don't know what they're actually targeting they could have just been like hey this is a target that'll make our 00:02:16.020 --> 00:02:22.379 headphone look good but it's fairly harm and shaped the inputs to the headphones 00:02:20.459 --> 00:02:26.280 are 3.5 millimeters I really appreciate that because that means it's easy to 00:02:23.819 --> 00:02:31.080 replace cables the plug so the other end of it they have a 3.5 millimeter single 00:02:28.980 --> 00:02:35.459 ended plug and a 4.4 millimeter balanced plug six Hertz to 80 kilohertz what they 00:02:33.660 --> 00:02:39.660 really mean is 20 kilohertz to 20 kilohertz and even then they probably 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:43.200 don't go all the way down to 20 uh Hertz impedance is 18 ohms which isn't the 00:02:41.879 --> 00:02:47.400 easiest to drive but you should be fine with pretty much any audio player you 00:02:45.540 --> 00:02:51.660 might not be able to drive them at their full volume but I didn't have any issues 00:02:50.099 --> 00:02:56.160 driving these with basically any computer I plugged them into I plugged them into two different computers like a 00:02:54.540 --> 00:02:59.580 laptop or plugged them into my desktop at work I didn't plug them into an 00:02:57.720 --> 00:03:04.379 iPhone I think that the iPhone adapter should be able to cover 18 ohms it's not 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:08.160 too bad and then sensitivity one decibel it's cool 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:12.780 let's get out of here and let's get this in now the Venus is competing with some 00:03:11.040 --> 00:03:19.159 fancy headphones so I'm expecting a decent unboxing experience not terrible 00:03:15.060 --> 00:03:23.340 they got like some foam and some 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:24.780 velvety material we got qc005 I don't 00:03:23.340 --> 00:03:30.959 know if that means that we got the fifth ones we probably didn't we're not that special to them for such a big box 00:03:28.980 --> 00:03:34.500 yeah there's nothing else in here which is a bit disappointing uh I would have 00:03:32.700 --> 00:03:38.099 liked to see like maybe a carrying case or something maybe even just like a bag 00:03:36.420 --> 00:03:43.620 maybe this does this come out and makes a bag yo it's the Tesla logo whoa 00:03:41.760 --> 00:03:50.760 um no this just comes out I guess before we talk about this what's in this inside 00:03:46.620 --> 00:03:54.780 we have is like a tiny postcard we got a 00:03:50.760 --> 00:03:57.540 manual and here we have our 00:03:54.780 --> 00:04:03.060 ooh a nice braided oh and they even have the uh the little twisties this is very 00:03:59.940 --> 00:04:05.040 much an IEM thing the twisty cable uh I 00:04:03.060 --> 00:04:07.280 like it I think it looks nice so we got our 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:14.580 we have our 3.5 millimeter adapter 00:04:11.640 --> 00:04:19.139 and then we have our our balanced output it's also doing that braided cable thing 00:04:16.979 --> 00:04:23.460 that I think looks really nice um there's a split right here in the 00:04:20.699 --> 00:04:27.000 middle to go to the two inputs I kind of worry about the stress relief here 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:29.759 there's not much in terms of strain relief kind of just goes into the 00:04:28.380 --> 00:04:33.360 plastic I would have liked to see more rubber coming out or more silicone 00:04:31.440 --> 00:04:37.320 coming out to actually uh I don't know relieve the stress while the connector 00:04:35.400 --> 00:04:40.919 is quite large on the three and a half millimeter the stress Leaf seems a 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:44.759 little bit better especially on this end and as long as they don't introduce too 00:04:42.840 --> 00:04:51.479 much sound which we can check uh they should be just fine and let's look at 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:53.759 these things first off holy cow are 00:04:51.479 --> 00:04:58.699 these things ever heavy it's a hundred percent solid metal there is the 00:04:55.800 --> 00:05:04.680 headband here is metal entire side of the ear cup is metal and 00:05:02.400 --> 00:05:08.400 this texture is actually like it's sharp I run my fingers along and I'm worried 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:12.419 I'm gonna get like a paper cut or I guess just a normal cut when it's metal 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:16.740 but it looks really really cool also look at the size of the ear cups on 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:20.280 these look inside look at how much space you have in there you could live in 00:05:18.479 --> 00:05:25.740 there you'd have to pay rent if you wanted this much space in Vancouver 00:05:23.039 --> 00:05:29.100 roomy this is a fake leather for sure this isn't real leather same with on the 00:05:27.660 --> 00:05:34.320 headband it's two different it's different textures on the headband though they go for elastic instead of a 00:05:32.460 --> 00:05:38.699 cushion I find that this works pretty well for me I know that some people have 00:05:36.060 --> 00:05:43.139 complaints about this style of a headband because if you're somebody who 00:05:41.400 --> 00:05:47.639 Wiggles around a lot or you have a smaller head what it can do is that if 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:50.759 it's too tight it kind of starts slowly like kind of moving up your head and 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:55.860 then it's going to be bothering the bottom of your ears I know Jake tyvee's complained to me about that before even 00:05:54.060 --> 00:06:00.000 here we got like six hex screws these are built like a freaking tank six on 00:05:58.139 --> 00:06:03.060 each side just for this headband I guess if you really wanted you could probably 00:06:01.380 --> 00:06:06.360 just replace the headband on these because there's no wires or anything 00:06:04.380 --> 00:06:10.440 going through the top I do feel like this kind of disrupts the look of them 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:14.880 it's just like it's a beautiful Circle and oh they also have like you can see 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:19.680 on the inside of this ear cup there's like uh some some breathing holes for 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:23.639 that ear breath these are open back so don't expect any sort of isolation you 00:06:21.840 --> 00:06:27.300 can basically see through them at this point the ear cups they are hey look at 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:32.039 that they're removable so funny story I had 00:06:29.940 --> 00:06:37.740 these a little bit earlier and I dropped them and that's how I found out that you 00:06:33.960 --> 00:06:39.120 can do this you can just take them out I 00:06:37.740 --> 00:06:42.720 was very worried when I dropped these because this whole thing fell out and I 00:06:41.100 --> 00:06:46.020 thought that I had broken them for good but then I realized that this is all the 00:06:44.520 --> 00:06:49.080 electronics you need this is just a headband uh you can see the diaphragm 00:06:47.699 --> 00:06:55.139 the metal that just goes all the way around so here's the thing this is a 100 00:06:51.539 --> 00:06:57.000 a 100 millimeter driver this whole thing 00:06:55.139 --> 00:07:00.840 is the driver that's the cool thing about planar magnetics is that unlike a 00:06:59.039 --> 00:07:06.660 dynamic driver where you have a coil that you have a small coil that's 00:07:04.740 --> 00:07:10.979 surrounded by a magnet that then pushes a large diaphragm with planar magnetics 00:07:09.180 --> 00:07:16.500 you have magnets that go along the entire plane of your diaphragm and then 00:07:14.880 --> 00:07:20.280 when an electric charge is put on each side of it it Wiggles the diaphragm and 00:07:18.960 --> 00:07:26.639 that produces a sound so instead of having the sound Focus kind of from the center of the woofer at the back you 00:07:24.180 --> 00:07:30.240 have this whole thing producing sound so it's like that as opposed to like a cone 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:34.380 and part of that is what gives like their unique kind of sound like people 00:07:31.919 --> 00:07:38.280 often talk about like this speed or the Precision of the bass response in planar 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:42.300 magnetics uh it's not and that's because you're not trying to have one small 00:07:39.419 --> 00:07:45.419 magnet move a big diaphragm you have all of this diaphragm all of these magnets 00:07:44.039 --> 00:07:48.900 working together to move a lot more air on the other hand 00:07:47.580 --> 00:07:52.919 that does tend to make these more expensive to manufacture than a typical 00:07:50.699 --> 00:07:57.240 Dynamic driver also they're just not as popular so there's less people focusing 00:07:55.199 --> 00:08:00.539 on making really cheap planar magnetics but it's getting better and better these 00:07:58.979 --> 00:08:03.900 days if you're interested in trying out the planar magnetic sound but don't 00:08:02.819 --> 00:08:07.919 think it's like going to change your life it's not like wow I've never heard 00:08:05.940 --> 00:08:12.419 my music like this before it's like it's minute differences but I think it's I'm 00:08:10.080 --> 00:08:15.000 partial to planar magnetics myself other than that there's nothing on these 00:08:13.919 --> 00:08:21.000 there's just the three and a half millimeter inputs no buttons or any of 00:08:17.880 --> 00:08:24.120 that other fluff this is pure audio uh 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:25.620 let's weigh them 572 grams 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:28.620 um I think they actually go over I think they reported to be 600. yeah maybe with 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:33.120 the cable you're right that could be 30 grams so if I go like 6 15 yeah so I 00:08:31.979 --> 00:08:39.000 mean this part's not going to be whole carrying too much weight but that's a lot that's half 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audio player plus uh DAC amp 00:09:17.820 --> 00:09:24.959 combo I'm only using it just because it's audio file 00:09:23.100 --> 00:09:27.420 now as I said these are open back headphones there's something about 00:09:26.160 --> 00:09:31.620 planar magnetics that makes them particularly bad as open back headphones 00:09:29.160 --> 00:09:34.519 because it takes very little to make them very Audible 00:09:35.160 --> 00:09:43.620 I don't know can you guys hear it yeah it's it's surprisingly not loud but 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:47.279 the thing about these planar magnets is that they leak so much of those really 00:09:45.540 --> 00:09:51.540 high-end frequencies that it makes it very noticeable for anyone around you 00:09:48.660 --> 00:09:54.300 this is not an office headphone also when you don't have music playing you 00:09:52.920 --> 00:10:00.000 can basically hear the whole world what that does do is it provides them with a little bit of a Better Sound Stage 00:09:57.120 --> 00:10:04.620 though I'm not Amazed by this headphone Sound Stage I find that it is adequate I 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:08.160 find that these these headphones sound tend to sound very clear they're a 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:11.339 little a little bright I don't find it to be an issue but you could argue that 00:10:10.019 --> 00:10:16.860 they're on the brighter side like willing to scat when listening to scatman's World by Scatman John you 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:21.240 really do hear those like high-pitched high hats Colin now from Scotland and 00:10:19.620 --> 00:10:24.839 they can be a little peaky um I found it listening to Asia by 00:10:23.220 --> 00:10:27.600 Steely Dan you can really hear this like kind of bell or TR it's not a triangle I 00:10:26.700 --> 00:10:33.240 don't know what it is I don't know percussion instruments all that well there's like a really really high 00:10:30.660 --> 00:10:37.920 pitched like thing that is just so noticeable on these headphones but in 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:42.240 terms of Timbre these things sound awesome uh especially with like string 00:10:40.260 --> 00:10:48.000 instruments I find that like acoustic guitar violins all sound really really 00:10:44.880 --> 00:10:51.000 lifelike like tamakun by uh Rodrigo y 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:53.339 Gabriella and Mac sounds so good on here 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:57.060 it's Immaculate it's like you I could like see the guitar strings vibrating 00:10:55.320 --> 00:11:00.899 even though I'm just listening in terms of bass response at the very very low 00:10:59.100 --> 00:11:05.100 end it's a little bit lacking there's a little bit of a roll-off but you still 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:08.339 have that kind of precision that you get from a planar magnetic headphone that 00:11:06.660 --> 00:11:12.060 makes things like uh double kicks and metal sound really really Punchy and 00:11:10.620 --> 00:11:17.880 precise and tracks like born in Winter or from the sky by Gojira uh the base 00:11:14.940 --> 00:11:22.980 kicks feel powerful but also like not muddied they're not ruined 00:11:19.940 --> 00:11:25.440 it's really really great this is a funny 00:11:22.980 --> 00:11:30.420 enough this solid metal headphone is a solid metal headphone 00:11:28.019 --> 00:11:34.260 but we got Labs to measure them so we can take a more objective look at what 00:11:32.459 --> 00:11:39.480 they actually sound like on our fancy new head here we go in a previous video 00:11:37.380 --> 00:11:44.040 about the focal Batiste we talked about frequency response one thing to note is 00:11:41.640 --> 00:11:47.579 that that graph and that video is not going to be comparable to the one that 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:51.959 we have here today because it's measured on a different system it was measured in 00:11:49.260 --> 00:11:57.420 a different location and we're measuring on our brand new B and k5128 it's the 00:11:55.560 --> 00:12:00.839 kind of the gold standard but it means that things like the harm and Target are 00:11:58.800 --> 00:12:06.600 less relevant because the harman Target was researched on different equipment 00:12:03.779 --> 00:12:09.480 and so it's not directly applicable we're working on developing our own 00:12:07.980 --> 00:12:14.100 Target that will be used as a simple very low level guide as to is this 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:19.760 headphone generally good so use the measurement for the Venus in the green that's the measurement of this headphone 00:12:17.160 --> 00:12:24.300 the dotted line is our Target it's not finalized or anything it could change in 00:12:21.839 --> 00:12:28.560 the future but as you can see the bass response especially the very low base 00:12:26.040 --> 00:12:33.120 below 40 kilohertz is a little bit lacking it's a about seven or eight 00:12:31.079 --> 00:12:37.740 decibels lower than where our Target is the mids it follows the line pretty well 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:41.459 it's pretty close and we can see a pretty steady bump over in the upper 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:46.800 mids and the treble but here's where you can see kind of some of the Peaks like look at that Peak way at the top right 00:12:45.300 --> 00:12:51.300 around the 14 kilohertz region that's just like really high sibilance so stuff 00:12:48.839 --> 00:12:55.079 like S's and T's can get a little bit out of hand I found it only in very 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:58.920 specific scenarios to be a little too much other than that it's not a terribly 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:03.300 bright headphone so if you're somebody who doesn't like really bright detailed 00:13:01.260 --> 00:13:09.120 sound uh you're not going to be overwhelmed by these now we can compare 00:13:05.459 --> 00:13:10.620 them to say the HD 800 s's you can see 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:15.000 that this has more bass presence than the HD 800s's and it tends to be less 00:13:13.019 --> 00:13:19.740 bright and the five to eight kilohertz region the hd800s tend to be a lot more 00:13:17.820 --> 00:13:22.920 louder so there's a little bit more brightness to them some people find it a 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:27.000 little fatiguing it tends to be a little bit less peaky you can see that there's 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:31.079 fewer lows and highs and it's more kind of controlled in this steady curve but 00:13:29.160 --> 00:13:34.980 that's also a headphone that is literally triple the price of these and 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:39.839 that's where these are really interesting is that this is a 600 dollar 00:13:38.040 --> 00:13:44.040 headphone which puts it in an interesting place in terms of headphone 00:13:41.820 --> 00:13:48.420 pricing there's a weird Chasm between the Enthusiast headphones where you see 00:13:45.420 --> 00:13:50.579 stuff like Sennheiser hd600s the like 00:13:48.420 --> 00:13:54.420 Flagship where you see like 1800 headphones like the HD 800 s's these are 00:13:53.040 --> 00:13:58.200 kind of going somewhere in the middle There For Better or For Worse that's a 00:13:56.940 --> 00:14:05.160 good thing because in a lot of ways especially when it comes to like build quality these things are built like a 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:09.600 tank but then you have to think about like what can you get for a better price 00:14:07.380 --> 00:14:13.040 that has a very similar performance and while these are 00:14:11.160 --> 00:14:18.180 I think great sounding headphones there's a lot of competition even within 00:14:16.380 --> 00:14:21.300 the planar magnetic space you have the Hi-Fi man sundara which are planar 00:14:20.040 --> 00:14:25.260 magnetics and have rightfully earned their place as a great Enthusiast planar 00:14:23.579 --> 00:14:30.300 headphone they're like half the price and they also sound pretty dang good I 00:14:28.500 --> 00:14:33.959 don't think they look as good I found that when I listened to these when I 00:14:31.980 --> 00:14:37.860 spent some time with these the weight didn't bother me but it is 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:43.800 something you really have to consider if you're going to be sensitive to heavy headphones these are very heavy 00:14:41.699 --> 00:14:48.180 personally I had no issue because it's a circle and it's not a crazy crazy size 00:14:45.779 --> 00:14:52.380 it leaves you open to options of getting custom ear pads or replacement ear pads 00:14:50.699 --> 00:14:55.440 which can change the sound drastically especially if you go for something that's more open you can lose the bass 00:14:54.540 --> 00:15:01.320 or if you go for something that's thicker you can really enhance the bass response on these it's a admirable entry 00:14:59.880 --> 00:15:04.920 and I think a really really good first attempt which makes me very excited to 00:15:03.540 --> 00:15:08.160 see where Moon drop takes their headphone line up from here if somebody 00:15:06.839 --> 00:15:12.959 decided to purchase these headphones they would be absolutely happy with them 00:15:10.980 --> 00:15:15.720 I think it's a great product so well done they're a great product just be 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:18.540 aware that there's other options that exist for slightly cheaper you can do 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:22.980 that with them and you can subscribe to ShortCircuit 00:15:21.660 --> 00:15:26.519 if you like this video why don't you watch my video about the focal Batiste 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:29.820 another really great pair of headphones that are you know within Striking 00:15:28.380 --> 00:15:32.180 Distance of the same price but they're Wireless