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Okay, welcome to the WAN Show, ladies

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and gentlemen, where we have one hour

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and 20 minutes late. I believe this may be maybe the latest that we have ever

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been. We are the whole duration of the show late. Yes, that is a thing that

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happened today. And um yep, to be

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perfectly honest with you guys, the stream is still not perfect.

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Um I cannot I I cannot run the intro

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video clip for some inexplicable reason.

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We should just carry one of the chairs and then you can like drop it partway

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through right when you get in frame and then like sit there and go like

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going. We could do it. Yeah, we could we

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could do that. It's okay. I'm just I'm not gonna Yeah, I'm not going to worry

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about it. Uh let's just let's just go ahead and get this show on the freaking

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road here. Let's get it Let's get it on

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the road cuz uh

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uh apparently there's a Oh, yeah. I know. I know why there's an echo. I know

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why there's an echo. Don't worry. Don't worry, you guys. We got this. Don't

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worry about it. Don't worry about it. Awesome. I still had the I just had the

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speakers on on my laptop because I didn't have my uh my headphones plugged

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in for a second here. We should be all good now. Let's go ahead and talk about

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what topics we're going to be hitting today. Topic number one is the NVIDIA

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GeForce GTX Titan X.

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Titan X again. Titan X 2. If you know we

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were to take the Final Fantasy approach to this, the the way they're going with

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it is they're calling it Titan X Pascal.

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Well, we'll we'll get into that a little bit more later. what we both think of that. Also, Facebook wants to use

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freaking lasers to deliver high-speed internet to remote areas. I approve of

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this simply because it involves freaking lasers, but we'll talk more about the

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rest of it later. Of course, NVIDIA also dropped a 1060 this week cuz

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uh apparently releasing gratudous amounts of graphics cards all at once is

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a good idea. Also, owner of Kickass Torrance was arrested and is about to be

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absolutely screwed. Yes. Yes, he is. All right, let's roll the

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intro. It doesn't work. No, it's so far off.

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And see, like you you start kind of going Mario and then you switch it.

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Ministry of Supply.

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I fix it.

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So, I'm having I'm having I'm running into a weird issue. I think it's a video

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codecreated thing where every time I try and play a a video file, our streaming

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software crashes. Maybe iFix it could release a i ifixit guide on how we can

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fix the stream. I would love it if

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iFixit had like like a tearown guide of

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xsplit. Yeah, like a tearown guide of just streaming in general because

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because we need all the other things figured out too at this point. tear down guide of audio solutions, streaming

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software, streaming software utilities,

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audio monitoring, all that kind of stuff. All the things the lower third

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works, pictures work, videos don't work. So, so there you go. That's where that's

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where we're at with that. Um, I feel like I was in the middle of an

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explanation of why we were so late last time. And I know that we're an hour and

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20 minutes late, but I'm going to explain it anyway because there is a

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valid reason. It was all because I was trying to fix it. So, first I took the

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Stream Computer and upgraded it from X79

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with a two generational top-of-the-line CPU to X99. I used the X99 Deluxe board,

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which like our experience with rock solid freaking awesome board. It's

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probably How many people get that? I I I hate

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you. How many people get that? Can we straw poll? I hate using Can you go

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ahead and straw poll? In fact, uh, hold on a second.

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I believe there actually is a Luke screen HDMI now. Oh, what? I was making

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upgrades, my main man. That sort of makes sense. I was I was making

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upgrades. I was doing things. I was trying to make the stream better. Is

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this set up? Am I going to ruin things by plugging this in? I don't know. Let's

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find out. So, anyway, X99 Deluxe motherboard. The

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most basic like low-speed DDR4 that I

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could possibly find. Yeah, that's good. That's a good thing. What just happened

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there? Uh screen turned off. It's like

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um X99 Deluxe. Uh what what else did I

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do? Right. Right. Changed out the CPU, RAM, motherboard, uh new SSD because get

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this, as soon as I changed the hardware, I've actually seen this once before, but

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when I changed out the hardware, every time I booted, every time I booted to

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the existing Windows install, no USB

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device could be detected. unplugging, replugging, going into the BIOS,

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changing EHCI, XHCI handoff, all that stuff. Nothing did anything. I even

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pulled it out of this machine, put it in a different machine. No USB devices. And

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because nothing has PS2 anymore, there's no way to even try to fix it. So, I may

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just keep that drive forever as like as like a trophy of the kind of

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that I have to go through sometimes. So, I had to reinstall the OS. I mean,

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meanwhile, it's like it's like 3:15 at this point. Like, I got lots of time.

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I'm feeling pretty good. Um, so I reinstall the OS. I get my new capture

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cards going and I'm still my my capture

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my my streaming software is still crashing. It's still crashing. So I'm

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changing out my XLR input to a different one and it's it's still crashing. And

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I'm like, what is going on? Turns out turns out video file, which is why I was

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late in the first place. And then we had issues with the audio quality on the

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stream, which is why we were yet another 20 minutes late. So, I'm very sorry

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about all that. Let's find out if it was all worthwhile by switching over to the

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Luke screen scene.

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There's There's nothing there.

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Wasn't set up at all. Okay, just hold on. Just hold on. Just hold on. Hold on.

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I was I didn't set it up. I didn't set it up. Okay, just just wait. Just wait.

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He named He named the scene and then was just like, "That's enough."

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Oh my. Uh, try unplugging and plugging it back

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in. Okay, let's see. Let's see. And also make sure your sound is off because

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otherwise they're going to get all your sound things. Have you tried turning it

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off and back on again?

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Oh god. Oh no.

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Oh no. Uh, well, you can very clearly see

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that uh the yes votes are at 13%. The no

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votes are at 52%. And the turnup votes are at 35%.

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Oh. Oh, hold on. There's a loose connection. It's a loose connection.

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Hold on. Hold on. I just got to tighten this up. Hold on. See, seem to Oh, it

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seemed to get better there. Oh. Oh. It's not better. Hold on. I I took it out. I

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took it out. Okay. Um,

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can they even still hear us? Oh, no. All

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right. So, uh, well, well, you guys get the point. And we're never sharing

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Luke's screen again. No, no, we will share Luke's screen again someday. I just I hadn't actually done that. Not

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this day. But it was not this day. One does not simply

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What are we going to do, my precious? Uh, we're going to talk about GTX 1060

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as if nothing happened. Like, yeah, let's do that. The stream is completely

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fine. All right, our original article here. Hold on. Hold on. I got my my my

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screen works. Our original article is ours Technica and not our own

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review. What the heck? Come on,

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bro. I made a video about this. Everyone's a critic, yo. Oh, man. Oh,

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wow. Colton was just I think he was taking out some angst cuz I was giving

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him I was giving him crap about something like last Friday and you know

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I apologized for it after because my management technique was less than

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stellar on that occasion. Okay. But I think he's I think he's going to be

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trying to get back at you know he can't really get back at me because I'm his

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boss. So he might just be taking it out on you for the next little bit. I'm

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technically also his boss. I'm kind of actually, you know, you couldn't fire

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him directly, but if you were like, "Yo, Lionus, let's have a heartto-heart. I

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think we really need to fire Colton. He's been stealing things. I brought him

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into this world. I can make him leave this world." Yeah. I think maybe indirectly, but Yeah. I I think I think

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I would have to take your word over his. Like, if you said Colton stole a bunch

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of stuff and Colton's like, "Yo, go to Luke's house. It's all there." Like set

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up around his computer. I'd be like,

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"You know what, Colton? It's probably you who put it there."

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So now Colton knows that there's just this thing. And now Luke knows that if

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he ever wants to steal stuff and blame it on, that's exactly how it's going to go

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down. And all I have to do is leave it very specifically around my computer and

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then I'll be like, "Look, this is exactly what we talked about would happen. It's exactly what you said would

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happen. This and and you can turn that. You're just so smart. You knew it would

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happen this way." And how can I not believe you when you're so astute as to

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observe my intelligence being what it is? Of course. Well, let's talk about

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GTX 1060. So, in a nutshell, the RS

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1060 is faster than 980 for just a little bit more cash than the RX 480.

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um how it compares in terms of speed to the RX 480, which is so you can't have a

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performance comparison to some thing that's not available anymore and then a

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price comparison to some other completely unrelated thing from a completely different company that um we

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don't we don't like performs. Give me a second really quick because something

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that's been kind of weird in a lot of reviews, including my own, I'm going to

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admit this right now because it's hard to quantify. Um, okay. I want to see if

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you can even buy any of them. GTX 1060s.

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Yes. So, there is one GTX 1060 currently

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available on Amazon, and I think it's a mislabeled product. Nope. Nope, that's a

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1060. There is one of them available from EVGA. So, we'll see how long that

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lasts. Um, and everything else that you look for when looking up 1060 is mostly

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1070s. And looking at the

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video, I said that I didn't think they were going to be near the 249 USD price

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point because of what I saw with the 1070 and the 1080, right? and I was

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slammed by certain people because there was an official price list released that

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had them closer to the 249 price point. But what I said in the video was that I

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didn't think that the 1060 and the 480 should even necessarily be compared that

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closely because the 480 is 200 bucks and the 1060 is probably going to be around

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300. So looking at Amazon.com, not.ca,

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there is the EVGA GeForce 1060 currently

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sitting at $339 and there's only one of them. And

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this posting is from EVGA. Um, there is

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a Gigabyte GeForce 1060 G1 gaming

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edition for $346. Okay. There is Are you looking at CA

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or.com? Okay. So, US pricing. Zotac AMP

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edition. I sure wish we could share your 345. You could do this. It's really No,

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no, it's okay. Um, basically my point is

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the prices for all these things are just like whimsical imaginations of

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possibility. Like the what what is it?

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it's like $1,300 or something really.

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It's just like holy crap. What the hell?

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that I think what's happening is retailers are just like, "Well, we're

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sold out for forever, so we might as well just crank the price up." You know,

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it's interesting because that kind of thing didn't used to really happen. I

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mean, I worked at a retailer for a lot

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of wow, I don't know, 6 years or something like that. And so, I saw the

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behind the scenes of what actually goes

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on with a product launch like this. And you know the consumer you know loves to

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hate and say you guys are gouging you're doing this and you know the reality of

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it would be that the Canadian dollar had dropped 5% in the last four days or

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something like that and you know ultimately we were just losing money on

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everything that we had sold before we adjusted pricing because we would get

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paid in or sorry we would have to pay in US dollars but we would get paid by the

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customer in CAD. So you had to kind of guess because you're on net 30 anywhere

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from net 30 to net 60 terms. So in

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actual fact normally NCIX was pretty

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darn close to whatever the normal markup

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was supposed to be once converted from US to Canadian and then with you know a

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few percentage points on top so that you're actually making a little bit of

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money. And what I'll say about the board partners is that when it comes to the

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vanilla cards, they might opt not to

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make as many basic cards as they

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potentially could, right? EVGA could take every single GTX 1080 that comes

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into the door, every single GPU, and they could put it on their lowest cost

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card, and they could sell them all at the lower price. or they could, you

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know, at least supply some of those so that the people who want a deal on

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something that's not a super clock or a KO edition or an AACSX Plus or Kingpin

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or whatever else, so those guys can get a card if they're willing to wait a

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little bit. And then I would put as much of my stock as I can based on what'll

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hit those clock speeds into the ones that I can sell for a higher price. And

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that is the way that video card makers

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generally mark something up by having a

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different skew, not by just hiking up

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the price of a card. There have been exceptions to be very clear. 8800 GT

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went up from from the top like from the

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from the very beginning of the supply chain. To my knowledge, and I don't have

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any confirmation of this, so you guys don't quote me on it, but to my

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knowledge, NVIDIA jacked the price and the board partners jacked the price.

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Colton, can I borrow you for a minute? And retailers were somewhat

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opportunistic on that particular card as well. And the same thing may be happening. Do you mind grabbing my um

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power adapter? My laptop is going to die very, very soon. It's just in the main

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pocket there. Thank you. I didn't know where you were going with that. Also, um

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Yeah. I'd like to I'd like to give you an opportunity to uh here. Can you plug

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that into the back of the UPS first, though? I' I I feel like it's only fair

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to give you an opportunity to defend yourself because we talk a lot of smack.

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Okay. What do you What do you What am I defending myself on? We talk a lot a lot

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of smack. um in the event that that it

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was your word against Luke's, you know, and he was saying you stole a bunch of

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stuff from the office and and you and

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you pointed out to me that um actually all that stuff was on Luke's desk at

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home. Do you think I should believe you who

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I've only known for a little over a year? Definitely. Or should I believe or

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should I as a troll? Definitely believe me. But I know you wouldn't though.

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That's the thing. I would be so screwed.

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So, I just got to not piss you off to make you want to do that and we'll be

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good. Okay, thank you. That actually settled it. So, it turns out Luke is in

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fact Colton's boss by

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indirectly because we all acknowledge that Colton has to suck up to him in

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order to save himself. Okay. Thank you, Colton. You're wonderful. We appreciate

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you very much. Just Yeah, it closes the door. Okay. So, I did some more

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investigating. Okay. I went on neweag.com. Not only if you look for GTX

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first page and I think there's Yep, there's only one page. Every single item

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is listed as out of stock, but a lot of

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the prices are actually pretty normal, but they're all out of stock. You can't

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buy any of them. If you go to RX480, same thing. Or they're like

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computers and stuff or completely unrelated products, which is weird.

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Maybe you should work on your algorithm. New egg. When I literally type in RX480,

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I'm not talking about a uh Mazda RX8 air

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conditioning AC cooling parallel flow condenser assembly. That's not what I'm

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looking for. Anyways, uh one of them has

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stock of two items and it's let me find

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it again. Give me one second. Where'd it

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go? There. It's $49 for a $200 graphics card.

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What? I am so like

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how I am trying to get us uh I'm trying

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to get us an input so you can screen share because I'm personally really

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appreciating this like real time shopping study. But I'm I'm even like

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mostly done. But my my problem is how am I even really supposed to compare these

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cards? Because at this point, one of the manufacturers could be like, "It's 50

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bucks there. Do your price comparisons. We win." Then you go to the store and

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it's like, "Nope, it's $400." I hope they can hear us. What? Oh, okay. Okay.

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Hold on. Hold on. I got an idea. No,

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that's not the right idea. Can they hear us? I don't know. I don't know. I don't

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know. No video. I don't know. Everything is scary right now. Everything is scary.

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Video output. Um Um Um I don't I don't

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know. We can hear. We can They can hear. They can hear. I don't know what I'm looking at. I don't know if I plugged it

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into the right thing. Go on. Scream along with Lionus even though we can't

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hear you. Just do it at home. Just

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shut up. Why are you being mean to me?

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No, it was Colton. Oh, Colton. I wasn't being mean to you. Oh, you're right.

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I don't know why I didn't realize it was So, you're just so smart. That's why you

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ended up figuring it out, though. Not everything has to come to you immediately cuz you're you're just

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dealing with so many things at once. Um, so I'm on a completely different level.

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Yeah. Oh, can you plug that in? That might have something to do with it. Uh,

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the HDMI cable for your laptop. Really? Yeah. I'm trying to That might be That

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might be part of the reason why loop screen capture is not um is I didn't

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even know we were trying to do loop screen capture. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to I'm trying to get I'm trying to get

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you uh I'm trying to get you back up and running here. Okay. So, my computer has

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done the freakout thing, so we're ready to go. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

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Everything's on duplicate. Yeah. Okay.

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This sounds like a phone conversation with like that guy that just really

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doesn't care about what's going on on the other end.

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Yeah. No. Okay, let's be back now. Oh,

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see, I think I was plugging to the right thing in the first place, but Oh, dear.

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I I think like like I'm I'm done. I think I said everything that Okay. Yeah.

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you talk 1060 now? I was talking 1060

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the whole time. Oh, okay. You're done. Anyways, it's it's I'll I'll give a

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brief overview of what I said. It's very difficult. Well, did you talk like specs

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at all or do we care? I was going to finish that part of the conversation

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before time. Okay. Can I jump in with something that I had wanted to add? So,

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it with respect to the the pricing conversation. So, Sapphire actually sent

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me uh ND Oh. Oh, yeah. Okay. The NDA

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lifted like uh 6 hours ago. Perfect. Sweet. So, they have a Nitro Plus RX480

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because we wanted to talk about like how the pricing of these cards might kind of

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creep together depending on if you compare a low-end or creep apart or

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creep apart or whatever based on like crazy pricing in different areas. But my

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point was that usually in the US you have the most stable pricing structure

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because that's where they're making their initial pricing, but it's just

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complete lunacy in the US, meaning it's even more crazy. So tell me this. The 4

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gig RX480, you know, whatever. Nitro X is

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$220. Okay. MSRP. Yeah. The 8 gig is $270.

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a high-end RX 480?

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depend. Can you actually get them at that price?

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in general, so you can't even buy it if you wanted to, but the prices of them is

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crazy as well, right? So like the

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pricing that they're sending in the email, is that actually real? Because

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right now on Newegg, the only available 480 is over $400,

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right? So it's it's four uh where is it?

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Give me one second. I keep on losing it. Out of stock. Out of stock. Out of

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stock. Out of stock. Out of stock. Out of stock. $49 is the only one

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that's currently not out of stock. It's a Vision Tech card. Okay. There are

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additional pages. I haven't looked into the additional pages, but I did one

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entire page of products. Decided that was probably enough. All right. So, um I

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guess so, so basically our our usual guidance remains true. event, we

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uh the the higherend card versus buying a high-end of a lower-end GPU. Yeah.

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Okay, fine. But like if you can even get

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it. Let's talk high-end cards. NVIDIA announces the new GTX Titan X, which

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they're calling NVIDIA Titan X. Now, I could probably go off Oh, I was going to

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have you leave that plugged in so that I can still try things. Um, I could

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probably go off on a rant for a good solid 10 minutes, however long you want,

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about naming things the same thing that

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they were already named when they are a completely different product or saying

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new. Yes. Or whatever, like the new, you

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know, it's it's like it's like everyone took everything that was wrong with

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shampoo marketing and you know, now with 33%

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more 33% more than what? 33% more of

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what? What am I comparing this to? Is it a product from last month? Is it a

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product from four years ago? What is their 30 one? How do I understand this?

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One thing that I do understand in terms of that naming, the only time that I

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think it actually made sense was Battlefield 1.

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Really? Because they went back.

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Okay. So, that sort of made sense. I'm still not a huge fan of it, but this is

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different. This isn't a reboot. This is a sequel. No, I'm not saying it's okay

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here. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. No. No. We're agreeing that it's not okay

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here because there's a lot of things that are confusing about this. It's

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confusing for retailers because SEO is

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hard enough when you don't have to. Basically, the only way that I can think

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of to fix your SEO from old generation

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Titan X versus new generation Titanex is manually. Like you will basically have

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to go into your backend and go okay if

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Titan X created before you know what they should do then do not return result

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before created after X like that's they

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should uh replace their product pages.

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The problem is that the pricing is different. A uh the other problem is

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that you might be looking it up for a warranty return. the other no they

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should replace their product pages and then remake but with the old cards so

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you can still find it but the SEO linking through Google and everything is

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still really popular. That's actually a smart way to take advantage of this. I

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guarantee no one will do it but and because you should still have your

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product page with the old card for warranty reasons and everything that you said. Like NCX for example, I know for a

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fact there's no mechanism for them to do that. Like that is not a thing. That

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won't be a thing that they'll be able to do. Um so okay, so it's cruise over the

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retailer. Okay. It screws over the reviewer because it makes it so that

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instead of me just saying Titan P or Titan XP or PX or if we had called it

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something that had made an ounce of sense, I have to say Titan X 2016

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edition. Like I have to clarify. If you gave us Titan XP, there could have been

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all the like little smiley face jokes and stuff and that could have been pretty cool by the way. And that would

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have been that would have been way better. Yeah. Anyway, okay. We should just call it the Titan XP from now on.

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I'm down. I'm I'm down to do it. I will literally call it that throughout the

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entire review. I will do that, too. Cool. We are calling it the Titan XP

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from now on. You heard it here first. It is the Titan XP. It is the Titan XP.

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Okay. The third person that this screws over and the one that gets screwed over

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the most is the consumer.

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You are basically making it impossible

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for the consumer to understand from reading reviews, googling reviews,

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comparing pricing what exactly it is they're buying unless they are an

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extraordinarily savvy consumer who really keeps up with the industry by

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watching fantastic programming like the WAN Show on a weekly basis. That is the

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only way that you will know that one Titan X is different from another more

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different Titan X. Oh, someone in the chat even just said win XP with the

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Titan XP, right? Like, holy crap, those marketing

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campaigns write themselves. Why did you do this? You had such an opportunity. I

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know. We used all the XP that we had building amazing GPUs and we turned out

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this beast. I NVIDIA leveled up. It's

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endless. There's so many. Level up your game. Oh, it's perfect. It's amazing.

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They need to rename this card. They do. They have to rename this card like right

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now. They need to Okay, here's what they need to do. Okay, NVIDIA, if you guys

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are watching, you take the Titan X 2016

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editions that you have now, and you turn them into kind of like like a coin with

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two-tail sides. Like anyone who bought one or got a giveaway like right at the

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beginning. Wow. Okay, they have like this weird It's almost like a misprint.

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Okay, so they have like this weird one that like had the wrong name on it. You

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just change all the shrouds to Titan XP moving forward. Okay, you got to retool

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it. I'm sorry that costs a little bit of money. You're NVIDIA. can afford it and

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the Titan XP is the actual name of the product and everyone's like talking

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about it. It would be awesome. You should do it. That that would be you

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won't but you should because it would be better for absolutely everyone because

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this is really confusing for consumers and it's totally unfair. It's already

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confusing enough when video card manufacturers take two of the same

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product and call it something different. Rebadging is terrible and confusing for

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consumers. Now you're taking it a step further and now you might have two

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different products that are called the same thing. You're basically just saying, "I

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don't really want anyone to understand what it is. I want people to just walk

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into a store and have a saleserson sell them the most expensive thing that they

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can." That's the message that I'm getting from this and I don't like it.

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And speaking of the most expensive thing that they can, the Titan XP is going to

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cost $1,200 when it's available August 2nd

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directly from NVIDIA. And my bridging point, Wow. back from uh the 1060 stuff

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is you're Okay. You're buying Titan X's August 2nd from NVIDIA. Sure. Down the

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line when they stop doing that. You mean XPs? Oh, yeah. Sorry. XPS. Um I screwed

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up. I called a last generation card. My bad. Um, I'm still I'm still in last

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year. Uh, what happens later on? Are

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they going to be $1,600? You already price hiked by 200.

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In the 1060 review at the very beginning, I have a chart showing how

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every one of their new GPUs has been price hiked by a hundred bucks. This is

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by 200 bucks. Now, this is something that you may not have been paying

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attention for long enough to know, but

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NVIDIA actually has not I would say

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NVIDIA and AATI/AMD, because that's how far back

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this goes, have not actually been that

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unreasonable about the way that they have done the pricing of their extreme

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top tier hardware. And I will I will explain I will explain why I'm saying

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that. I like that EVGA logo because uh Oh yeah, that's really old. That's back

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when they were EVGA.com and it was always eva.com. They

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actually that was like part of the branding. Um so let me see if I can find

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So the the 6800 Ultra Extreme was

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basically vaporware. Um and if you're going to build a card that you're

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basically saying um let me see if I can

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find a reference to pricing here with benchmark. If you're building

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a card that you're basically saying, yeah, it's going to be available from our site.

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Um, only then something something

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something. Yeah, you're basically saying like it's it's pretty much a Vaporware

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card. Uh, let me find it. You can expect to pay upwards of $600 for a card of

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this caliber and we were unable to locate a retailer that had them in stock

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at the moment. Oh, 6800 Ultra Extremes

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went for kind of getting somewhat close

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to the like, you know, $800, $900 range.

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And the 8800 Ultra was actually a pretty

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similar story. Ultra price at launch. Let me just see if I can find it. Uh,

427
00:30:49,200 --> 00:31:00,279
okay. So, the 8800 Ultra was priced at $830 and that was released back in 2007.

428
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:02,720
So, let's use an inflation calculator.

429
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:06,640
Okay. Inflation calculator. I'm going to use the Bank of Canada one if that's

430
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,960
okay with everyone. How do you use here? So, I'm gonna We'll go ahead. We'll do

431
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:15,679
this live. So, in 2007, something that cost uh what was

432
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:18,200
it? 839. 839. Well, I can type a thing.

433
00:31:15,679 --> 00:31:22,480
Tap 839 would cost

434
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:28,080
calculate. Okay. So, they weren't being unreasonable before. Back when I did the

435
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,919
math based on that Titan X is $1,000.

436
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:34,960
Yeah. Because Well, I mean, I'm not saying that an $839 card in 2007 wasn't

437
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:38,960
unreasonable. It was. I'm just saying that um Okay. I don't We're actually

438
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:44,799
tracking. Okay. But they've jumped ahead by $200 this time. So, you're right. And

439
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:46,960
I was right um like two days ago. Okay.

440
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:53,279
Yeah. How about that? We're both right. Okay. Sure. Sure. I think the problem

441
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:57,200
that people have is jumping by $100 on

442
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:59,760
XX60 and XX70 and XX80 and jumping by

443
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:04,640
$200 on Titan doesn't feel like an inflation adjustment. If they adjusted

444
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,840
by little bits every time, it would feel more like inflation adjustments. Now, I

445
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,679
understand that you don't want really weird pricing numbers on your products,

446
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:17,559
but that's what people are feeling when you do that. They're feeling that one

447
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:20,480
chunk jump and it doesn't feel great.

448
00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:25,200
Feels bad, man. So, you can actually see here that that probably the last time

449
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:29,760
they did this then was with the 8800 Ultra because here's our six I remember

450
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:33,840
these costing more though. Um 6800 Ultra Extremes, they're stupid. You basically

451
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,960
couldn't buy them. Um but they they did a fairly significant jump there and it

452
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:42,799
looks like they've taken another leap forward in terms of the rel the value of

453
00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:48,799
a GPU like a an ultimate gaming experience relative to eggs and milk. Uh

454
00:32:45,679 --> 00:32:50,399
once again, and I think ultimately the

455
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:54,240
person that we have to blame for this, or not person, but the entity that we

456
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,519
have to blame for this is AMD. You know, I'm not going to like crap on AMD

457
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,720
because they're having a hard enough time as it is with the things that are

458
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:08,880
difficult for them, which is apparently everything. Um but if AMD was keeping

459
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:11,760
NVIDIA in check, then at the high end.

460
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:17,840
Okay. So, you know, to be clear, 480 looks like a very successful product and

461
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:19,679
AMD did a really I think it was a smart

462
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,480
move coming in and saying, "Okay, look, we're not going to go toe-to-toe with

463
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:27,360
NVIDIA this time." Yep. I said that straight up in the review. We're going to hit we're going to we're going to

464
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:32,240
come from the bottom while NVIDIA can spend all that money that's associated

465
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:37,039
with building the biggest GPU ever, which they did. Yeah. and they can

466
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:40,120
trickle that technology down and we're just going to build what we think is the

467
00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:46,000
right thing at the right price from the outset. Fair strategy. I have a video

468
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:48,000
coming just so people know. Um I'm not

469
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:53,519
going to go like too into it because I want you to watch the video, but I have

470
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:55,760
a video coming on uh the 480 and VR and

471
00:33:53,519 --> 00:34:00,320
like how well positioned that card actually is in terms of performance even

472
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:04,320
more than price. how you can just get this card and be fine for like what

473
00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:07,679
almost anyone is really gonna want. Yeah. And then there will be percentages

474
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:13,919
of people that want more than that. But it's like it is a problem solver which

475
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:16,320
is exactly what they needed. So I just I

476
00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:22,879
mean I still I would have personally preferred to see AMD have a you know

477
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:26,800
Fury XP or whatever would go headto-head

478
00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:28,159
with a Titan XP. Um because that is the

479
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:33,639
kind of thing that keeps pressure on NVIDIA not to do this kind of thing and

480
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:40,320
they just didn't Yeah. They just they just

481
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:42,079
didn't they didn't do it. Yeah. I mean

482
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:47,200
there's there's still time for Polaris to to go headtohead with with Pascal and

483
00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:51,720
so I'm I'm looking forward to that because that should at least force

484
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:54,399
NVIDIA to react and

485
00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:57,760
uh yeah I I don't know. I guess I'm I'm kind of out of stuff to say about this.

486
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:04,720
Okay, there's a new Titan X, 11 teraflops, um 12 billion transistors, 30

487
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:07,680
3584 CUDA cores, up to 60% faster than

488
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:14,880
previous Titan X. Cool. Um people are a little upset that it's uh GDDR5X

489
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,480
instead of uh HBM2. Yep. I'm a little

490
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:20,400
upset, but I totally get why they're doing it. They're just kind of going it

491
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:24,800
doesn't matter. And they're right. It doesn't matter. Um, so screw it. We're

492
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:29,280
going to make a little bit more margin. Wait for HBM2 to mature a little bit.

493
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:34,480
Um, right now it's can just be a low volume part and we'll just keep that in

494
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:37,760
our in our um scientific computing

495
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:40,160
cards. Keep that in the Teslas. Fine.

496
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:43,599
So, I get it. I mean, memory overclocking hasn't done anything on a

497
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:48,480
video card in a very, very, very long time. And I'm sure that NVIDIA has done

498
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:52,160
all the research that is required to decide if it's worth it or not. because

499
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:56,400
apparently the GPU itself does support HBM2. So they just decided to pair it

500
00:35:54,320 --> 00:36:00,320
with GDDR5X. One thing that I'm frustrated about frustrated with which

501
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:07,960
almost no one is going to be able to sympathize sympathize with me for is

502
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:10,720
it's being sold on August the

503
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:15,920
2nd. We heard about it the same day you guys did. I don't have one. I don't How

504
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:21,119
am I feels bad, man supposed to review this before the release date? We should,

505
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:25,280
we've been talking about this. So, we've actually been talking about doing this

506
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:29,839
before. We should review the card before we have the card.

507
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:33,520
Yeah, because there have been cards where Luke and I have sat down and gone,

508
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,240
"Okay, uh, card's coming. We haven't been briefed on it. We don't have a

509
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:41,119
deck. We don't have any specs. We have no driver. We have no card. We have nothing." And we basically go, "Okay,

510
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,200
it's going to be like this, and it's going to be like that, and it's going to

511
00:36:43,359 --> 00:36:48,960
be kind of like this, and here's the conclusion." And we should just release

512
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:53,040
our full review of it. So, we should not sign an NDA. We should not accept a

513
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:57,359
review unit. And we should release a review the day before. Oh my god.

514
00:36:55,359 --> 00:37:05,359
Without a card. That could be fun. It would be easier with a xx number card.

515
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:08,400
Yeah. Than a Titan. Yeah. A Titan would be a little difficult. Like it's easier

516
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:13,040
when they're taking an existing lineup and they're kind of slotting something in. Yeah. Yeah. Like Okay. It would be

517
00:37:11,839 --> 00:37:19,359
pretty easy for us to do that with like a 1080 Ti. Yes. 1080 would be pretty

518
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:25,040
easy. Uh the 1080 would have been pretty easy. Y the except for in VR. The 1070

519
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:29,359
would have been pretty easy and the 1060 like I knew it before it even happened.

520
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:34,320
AMD cards are usually particularly easy, especially when they're the same card

521
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:36,480
that we reviewed a year ago. Um boom.

522
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,920
480 would have not they would have not been able to do it. No idea what was

523
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:44,320
coming. I got to give them props. They kept that secret. They did. I I did not

524
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:50,560
know what was coming. Um, but yeah, like I unless one shows up

525
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:54,000
on like Monday. Oh, I got so sorry. Someone asked a

526
00:37:52,240 --> 00:38:00,240
question. No, I did not ditch my blade. Um, I'm working on a review of Gigabytes

527
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:02,079
uh Arrow 14, which is kind of like what

528
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:04,640
I would call Okay, don't take this the wrong way because it's still a very

529
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:08,880
expensive computer, but I'm going to call it a poor man's blade. So, it's But

530
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,560
that that that's considering that the blade is like the dude that owns a

531
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:16,240
yacht. So, it's not really the poor man's blade. It's a relatively speaking

532
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:20,880
poor man's blade relative to the dude that owns a yacht. Yes. Which is like

533
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:23,440
everyone. Yes. Okay. So, uh there's a lot of things I like about it. There's a

534
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:30,079
lot of things I don't like as much about it, but um yeah. Okay. Let's move on to

535
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:37,520
uh actually we should probably do our sponsor spots. I can't believe we just spent like half the show on the first

536
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:39,839
two topics. So, first up is I fix it.

537
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:44,079
iFixit recently got mad at me and I guess during their sponsor spot is the

538
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:50,079
best time to bring that up. They gave me well they gave Nick crap and Nick gave

539
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:52,880
me crap because every time every time I

540
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:57,920
pull out an iFix it kit for a phone repair or for a disassembly vlog or

541
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:04,480
whatever the case may be, every time I pull one out, I pull out the old Protek

542
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:06,520
tool kit with the 54-bit driver kit and

543
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:12,480
they're just like, "Dude, what are you doing?

544
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:15,920
You're sponsored by iFixit and you're using the old kit all the time. And the

545
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:19,599
funny thing is is I take flak from the viewers about obvious product placement

546
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:23,200
is obvious. iFixit doesn't want me to do that. They don't want to pay me to use

547
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:28,720
the old product that you can't even buy anymore. They ain't interested in that.

548
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:33,680
Um, so this is cool. I don't know if you know this, but iFixit is actually

549
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,760
sending us upgraded protect tool kits

550
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:39,680
with embroidered names on them. So you're getting one. I'm getting one with

551
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:45,119
my name embroidered on. Anyway, the reason that I always had the old kit was because I took the 64-bit one home

552
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,880
because here I have a lot more tools at my disposal than I do at home. So, and

553
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:52,480
then every time we do an iFixit spot, I run around trying to find it and then

554
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:57,599
it's missing. Yeah. No, I I'd only told him like weeks and weeks after I had uh

555
00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:01,520
after I had taken it home anyway. Then I'd forget and go run around try to find

556
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:06,480
it. Anyways, the latest Protek Toolkit has their new 64-bit driver kit, which

557
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:10,320
means that you can have over 4 gigs of RAM. It's got

558
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:16,880
Sorry. Um, sorry. It has more bits. It

559
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:21,680
has more durable parts. It has a better screwdriver that's easier to apply more

560
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:26,000
torque with. Um, it's got their ESD safe tweezers. It's got the metal spudger.

561
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:29,920
It's got suction cups to pull apart displays. All kinds of great stuff. It's

562
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:36,560
backed by iFixit's lifetime warranty. And if you use offer code when on iFixit

563
00:40:33,839 --> 00:40:40,640
site, you can save $5 on a purchase of $10 or more. And we should probably get

564
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:46,240
that lower third updated because that is not correct. That is an old offer code.

565
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,079
I'm very sorry to iFixit and Nick. I'm

566
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:52,400
not sorry to Nick, but I'm sorry to fix it. Hopefully they don't they don't hate

567
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:57,440
us forever. Actually, we may be doing like a like a sponsored video with them.

568
00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:01,280
Oh. sometime soon where we'll be taking something taking something apart in a

569
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:06,560
really cool way and putting it back together in a really cool way like for

570
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:10,240
them like uh they're like sponsoring us to do something that I've wanted to do

571
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:15,280
for a long time but that I've never been able to do because it's extraordinarily

572
00:41:12,359 --> 00:41:18,560
timeconuming and expensive um so they're they're basically footing the bill for

573
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:24,960
it. So cool guys. We love those guys that I fixed it. Yay. Uh, this is

574
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:28,960
interesting that no one sort of briefed me on this because I actually have

575
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:33,599
clothing from Ministry of Supply that I wore last week. All the comments on the

576
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:37,119
video were like, "Wow, you and Nick look so professional this week compared to

577
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:42,480
how you guys usually look on the WAN Show." And I think I screwed up the spot

578
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:46,880
for them. So, I think we're redoing it again this week, but nobody told me, so

579
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:51,040
I don't have the clothes. But the good news is I did wear them last week. I

580
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:55,440
wore a beautiful button-up shirt and I actually was wearing pants on the WAN

581
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:58,960
show for a change. Something that is uh not usually the experience that is going

582
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:03,680
on under the table here. Yeah, that would have been pretty surprising. So, Ministry Ministry of Supply combines

583
00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:06,880
performance fabrics, advanced manufacturing techniques, and tailored

584
00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:12,480
design to make wear to work clothes that are comfortable and capable. They're

585
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:17,079
meant to be worn on the body, which is good because they have to look good on

586
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:21,760
the floor, too. Yeah, they gota

587
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:25,280
Wow, they're not gonna like this spot either. The products keep you cool and

588
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,400
dry with sweat wicking fibers, breathable fabrics, and NASA developed

589
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:32,480
phase change materials that help regulate your body temperature, and most

590
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:37,280
importantly for our audience, everything is easy to care for. Throw it in the

591
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:41,680
washing machine, throw it in the dryer. That's important for me. Oo,

592
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:45,680
wrinkle-free even out of the bag. So, it was like all folded up like Colton

593
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:48,720
handed me a folded collared shirt and was like, "Wear this on the show today."

594
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:53,680
And I was like, "You have got to be kidding me. I'm gonna look like the

595
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:58,079
biggest like there there was there's a wedding this weekend and I went and

596
00:42:55,359 --> 00:43:02,560
bought a shirt at the mall on Friday, idiot with like creases down my shirt."

597
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:06,640
Actually, it was fine. Yeah. So, there's no risk to try. There's free shipping

598
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:12,560
and returns with a 100-day hassle-free return policy. And it is the perfect

599
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,839
gift for anyone with a birthday or a

600
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:18,319
thing that you might need to give them a gift for. My notes still say Father's Day, but that is obviously outdated. Or

601
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:23,680
if someone you know has to go to a wedding on the weekend and it's uh

602
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,040
coming up soon. Yes, indeedy. And you're

603
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:29,680
like, they're not going to figure this out, so I'm going to do them do this for

604
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:33,040
them because my name is Avon and their name is Lionus. I'm not going to a

605
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:37,920
wedding. I'm actually going to a funeral this weekend. And it's has to do something with clothing myself. Feels

606
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:42,480
bad, right, man? It does. Sorry. Actually, I'm going to a funeral this

607
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:43,920
weekend. I know. I'm sorry. I will look

608
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:51,359
presentable at it, though. I started making the joke and then I was like, crap. This is way more applicable than I

609
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:53,440
thought. Oops. Oh, dang. That's okay.

610
00:43:51,359 --> 00:44:00,319
Facebook wants to deliver high-speed internet everywhere via freaking lasers.

611
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:04,880
Laser beams. Laser beams. Y I mean to be

612
00:44:00,319 --> 00:44:08,400
clear the idea of internet with with

613
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:11,240
lasers is actually not that out there.

614
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:17,760
In fact your internet travels over lasers for sure. Fiber fiber at some

615
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:23,680
point. Some people can be like I don't have fiber. At some point at some point

616
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:26,160
if you connect to a website that is not

617
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:30,680
like in your house friend hosting it. Yeah. your friend hosting it down the

618
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,680
street.

619
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:39,119
Like, well, actually, Lus, um,

620
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:43,280
I ran a internet cable to like my my neighbor's house and then we have a a

621
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:48,400
localized website for checking out what games we both have because Steam is like

622
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,520
there's too much DRM and stuff.

623
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:55,040
That could happen. Maybe the the worst

624
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:59,200
part is someone watching our stream has definitely done it.

625
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:03,839
Like when I was going to explode with like I did it when I was in university.

626
00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:08,000
Uh I put my computer in my neighbor's dorm room cuz we liked gaming in there

627
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:12,800
because my roommate was a douche canoe. Um but I had the good internet. So we

628
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:16,800
ran the internet from my room out my window into his window and then would

629
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,839
game. And when it was really cold outside I was like next to the window

630
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:23,680
but I like the cold. So, we just keep the window open so we could keep fast

631
00:45:21,359 --> 00:45:30,720
internet speeds. Nice game. I like that you've picked up douche canoe because I

632
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:32,839
picked up broke dick from you. So,

633
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:37,920
there we go. All right. So, the system uses

634
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:41,359
invisible infrared laser beams that switch on and off several billion times

635
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:47,119
per second to exchange data while consuming minimal energy. So, basically

636
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,640
the same as fi fiber optic internet

637
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:54,079
except that it goes through the air. So, Facebook is working on a means of delivering. Okay, that is basically the

638
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:57,920
headline. Thank you. The project has taken a step forward after a first test

639
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:02,160
delivered connection speeds over 2 Gbit per second. So, according to an article

640
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,599
penned by four members of Facebook's connectivity lab published in the

641
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,560
scientific journal Optica, the plan is to deliver these high-speed internet

642
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:14,480
connections using laser beams to the most remote possible locations. However,

643
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:18,319
high levels of precision are required to line up the laser correctly. So they

644
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:23,720
have to aim the beam with precision equivalent to hitting a dime from more

645
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:26,640
than 10 miles away.

646
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:33,839
So that's a cool thought experiment. The system also needs to support temperature

647
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:35,839
differences of up to 90° C.

648
00:46:33,839 --> 00:46:41,040
See the hitting the dime from 10 miles away thing that thing that worries me

649
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:43,040
with that is like weather. Yeah. And

650
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:47,040
other things that just happen. Really anything that could happen. Rebel

651
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:50,640
insurrection. ental plate movement. Yeah. Like that's actually a factor at a

652
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:54,960
distance of 10 miles away. Like did you see that sinkhole on 200th Street? Yeah.

653
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:58,960
I have to drive. Like there's just a sinkhole.

654
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:03,680
What the hell, man? Okay. The middle of a thair. Things just happen. The the

655
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:06,560
moon moves, the the waters rise and lower, the continental plates shift.

656
00:47:05,359 --> 00:47:11,520
There's there's lots of things that affect the positioning of things on the planet more than you might realize. All

657
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:16,079
right, speaking of the position of things on the planet, the Hollywood

658
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:20,480
Reporter is apparently our source for us looks to prosecute the owner of kickass

659
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:24,800
Torrance after arrest in Poland. Yeah, that's one of the things that's different about this laptop. Doesn't

660
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,599
have a touch screen. I went to zoom in and reposition

661
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:33,280
it. I do look forward to having the blade back, but this is a pretty sick

662
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:39,760
notebook. I'm my review is going to be very positive. Um, all right. So, the US

663
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:42,079
is looking to prosecute Ardum Valin,

664
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:45,359
alleged owner of Kickass Torrance, after his arrest in Poland. They've announced

665
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:49,440
that they charged him with conspiracy to commit copyright infringement and money

666
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:54,079
laundering in connection with the operation of Kickass Torrance. In a

667
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:59,920
press release, the law enforcement calls Kickass Torrance the most visited

668
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:02,480
illegal filesharing website with 50

669
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:07,520
million unique monthly visitors. It is the 69th most visited website on the

670
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:12,240
internet, which is so delicious. Oh my goodness. Um, and it is allegedly

671
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:16,240
responsible for enabling users to distribute films, TV shows, and video

672
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:21,520
games valued at more than $1 billion. That's probably conservative. If you

673
00:48:18,319 --> 00:48:23,440
value each discrete download as the full

674
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:26,400
cash value of that, that's definitely conservative if that's how you do it.

675
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:31,440
Yeah, it was very, very conservative. Apple and Facebook actually helped the

676
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:36,480
US in the investigation and release. Um, so an Apple email belonging to Valin was

677
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:41,839
found in a who is lookup conducted by Homeland Security. July 31st, 2015

678
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:46,319
records provided by Apple showed that the mi.com email account was used to

679
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:50,160
purchase something on iTunes. Logs showed that the same IP was then used to

680
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:56,680
access the kickass Torrance Facebook page. So he got caught because he bought

681
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,680
something legitimately.

682
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:02,319
I mean, I guess if I was making Wow. How many millions of dollars a month was it

683
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:07,920
that they figured it was bringing in? One of the other articles that I um that

684
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:09,680
I read was uh I I forget. It was like I

685
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:13,520
I don't know $12 million a month or something obscene. Like the amount of

686
00:49:11,359 --> 00:49:17,680
money it was making was just ludicrous. The guy can afford to buy movies, music,

687
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:22,079
and videos. So, if he follows the usual the usual pirate logic of I only pirate

688
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:29,119
because I can't afford it, then hey, maybe it's a good thing he was buying things on iTunes. Um I just think you'd

689
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:34,400
go to your own store, you know? Yeah, shop at your own free store for free

690
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:38,079
wares. Yeah.

691
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:42,800
Um, so there's an update. There's a clone site of Kickass Torrent somewhere

692
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:47,720
on the web. That doesn't surprise me at all. There's a change.org petition.

693
00:49:45,359 --> 00:49:51,359
Yeah, there's currently at 14,000 signatures asking for that's worth

694
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:55,119
taking time out of your day to go sign to release him. That is probably not

695
00:49:53,760 --> 00:50:00,359
going to have an effect. It's up to 15,000 supporters now. And there's like

696
00:49:57,839 --> 00:50:05,760
there's like a bar. It's like 9478 more needed to reach

697
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:11,839
25,000. As if 25,000 will be any different from 25 in terms of the impact

698
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:14,559
that'll have. But um there you go. Oh,

699
00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:19,559
this is good. Uh recode.net is our original article here. Dollar Shave Club

700
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:26,800
just sold for $1 billion to Unilever.

701
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:28,400
$1 billion. Wow. Good old Mike, who I've

702
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:32,800
never actually met, but I feel like I know him because I've been pimping his

703
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:39,280
razors for like three years now. Good old Mike is a billionaire. He is still

704
00:50:35,839 --> 00:50:40,880
going to be running the company. Um,

705
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:45,440
they were projecting more than 200 million in revenue for 2016. Dollar

706
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:50,000
Shave Club isn't profitable, but he said at a conference in May that the company

707
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:54,480
could get into the black by year's end. And Unilever has basically gone, "Okay,

708
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:59,400
that's good enough for us. We're doing it.

709
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:03,599
Um, wow. So, basically, you know, he's like, "Okay,

710
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:07,520
yeah, I'm going to keep running it. We we had, you know, good synergy, you

711
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:11,440
know, talking with each other. The economies of scale they can bring in

712
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:15,599
will change our business a lot." And that's true. I mean, I've had people

713
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:18,960
point out that Dollar Shave Club's razors can be purchased in bulk, not

714
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:24,480
from Dollar Shave Club, if you don't want a weekly delivery. And the reality

715
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:28,720
of it is is people join Dollar Shave Club. So set so it's set it and forget

716
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,359
it. Not so they can save 22 cents per blade or whatever the difference works

717
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:36,559
out to. I can't remember how much it was. I did look into it. Um so for

718
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:40,160
Dollar Shave Club to be able to potentially I mean with the resources

719
00:51:38,319 --> 00:51:44,520
that Unilever can throw at it, they could to advertise more to develop

720
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:48,720
products faster, develop more unique products, it could end up being a good

721
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:55,440
investment for Unilever even though it's not even profitable yet. Yeah. and even

722
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:57,599
more lucrative for Mike in the long term

723
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:02,800
because the company could bring in so much profit. So overall, hey,

724
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:08,000
congratulations you guys and uh the next bill we send you is going to be double

725
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,839
now that you got big boy dollars. That would be nice. What I want them to do, I

726
00:52:10,319 --> 00:52:15,440
would really appreciate this. I don't know how they would make make this work

727
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:20,880
in their model or something, but I want someone to make a good trimmer. A good

728
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:25,599
trimmer. Oh, good luck. They all are terrible. Good luck. I spent a very

729
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:30,000
annoying amount of money to just get pissed off to the point where I almost

730
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,640
threw it like a week ago because like it

731
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,240
just it was it was $100. I don't like spending money. I

732
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,280
know you don't. I hate it. I know you do. I sat there in the store for

733
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:43,359
literally like half an hour being like, I don't like this. And then eventually

734
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:48,559
was just like okay. Because my previous one broke and it worked somewhat okay.

735
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,200
So I needed a new one. Yeah. M and I was like, I want it to be good and I have

736
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:57,520
all these complaints about my previous one and this one was supposed to be good and I bought it and it's

737
00:52:54,280 --> 00:53:00,000
worse. It's so bad. You might notice I

738
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:03,680
have a lot going on right now because I don't I can't return it cuz it's a

739
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:06,880
hygiene product, right? That's how they get you. Yeah, that's absolutely how

740
00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:10,160
they get you. And it's so bad and I don't want to spend money on another one

741
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:14,000
cuz it's also going to be bad. And you can't use a razor for everything. To be

742
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:18,800
very clear, you can use a razor when you want down to the skin. You need to use a

743
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:23,680
body trimmer if you want to have some amount. Yeah. And I want razor down here

744
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:26,480
and razor like in here a little bit, which is what I normally do. There's no

745
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:31,520
point when the rest of the beard is this ridiculous. Um, but I want to use a

746
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:37,200
beard trimmer for the rest of it and they all are terrible. If Dollar Shave

747
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:39,680
Club came out with a beard trimmer, I it

748
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:43,599
would probably be fine and I would use it. It wouldn't have a flashlight and

749
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,800
whatever other stuff he says that in the thing. And that's fine. I don't even

750
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:50,160
want all the crazy different like the one I have has like millimeter control

751
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:54,319
and stuff. That's not why I bought it. I don't care. I just want it to cut hair.

752
00:53:51,839 --> 00:53:59,119
Yes. Yep. Oh my goodness. Speaking of just wanting to cut hair, Gorilla Glass

753
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:01,720
5 is coming and it's more shockproof than ever. The original article here is

754
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:09,280
from the verge.com. It is meant to survive epic

755
00:54:05,319 --> 00:54:10,720
smartphone drops. Dang. And then the Oh,

756
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:18,000
this is great. Filing this from a cracked phone. Good job,

757
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:20,319
Lauren. Um, so yeah, in a nutshell, blah

758
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:26,160
blah says it'll survive 80% of the time when dropped from 1.6 m. That's really

759
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:28,960
high. That's pretty freaking good. Uh, wow. So, waist height to shoulder height

760
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:33,680
is kind of what they were targeting here. They figure 2/3 of smartphone

761
00:54:31,359 --> 00:54:36,880
drops happen from that height. internal probably accurate research done by

762
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:40,720
Corning showed that 85% of smartphone owners have dropped their phone at least

763
00:54:38,319 --> 00:54:45,520
once in the past year. The survival rate was achieved in tests with pieces of

764
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:48,160
glass that were 6 mm thick and they make

765
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:53,520
glass as thin as4 mm. So smartphone OEMs that opt for thinner glass may see

766
00:54:49,839 --> 00:54:56,480
different results. So uh that's about 5

767
00:54:53,520 --> 00:55:02,079
and 1/4 ft. And to be clear, it does not account for corner drops. The testing

768
00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:04,079
was done dropping flat on its face. So,

769
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:07,920
as phones continue to have smaller and smaller bezels, um I'm not sure if

770
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:12,000
there's actually much that Corning will be able to do to address that. But hey,

771
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:15,520
they got to release a new product at some point. Gorilla Glass 3 sat there as

772
00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:20,480
the king of the hill forever. And Gorilla Glass 4 is kind of getting along

773
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:23,280
in the tooth. So now five with more drop

774
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:27,839
resistance in a configuration that only Samsung Galaxy S8 Active is likely to

775
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:32,920
use because everyone else thinks phones have to be like, you know, corset thin.

776
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:37,760
I like the active line. I'd rather things were like that.

777
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:41,119
All right, on the subject of kick-ass torrent, our original article here is

778
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:46,640
from Technobuffalo. Witcher 3 studio talks piracy says it was an irrelevant

779
00:55:43,839 --> 00:55:52,079
factor. These guys really do love to be popular, don't they? Yeah, because I

780
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:54,720
guarantee you it was a relevant factor,

781
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:59,599
but they just they just love taking what all the other game devs are saying and

782
00:55:57,839 --> 00:56:03,599
being like, you know what, but that's a positive and

783
00:56:01,839 --> 00:56:07,040
smart way to go about it. It is. They get so much good press. I love it, too.

784
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:10,720
They they go with this, the privacy factor is irrelevant because we can only

785
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:13,920
convince them to do it. We totally believe in carrot, not the stick. So

786
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:18,000
they're being like, "We're the nice guys. Love us." Yeah. Love us. Give us

787
00:56:16,319 --> 00:56:21,760
your money. They are doing all the nice guy things. Yep. They're not saying this

788
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:26,880
stuff and then and then loading up, you know, uh Stardock and whatever like

789
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:32,000
eight different levels. G Oh, games for Windows Live. Terrible. Yeah. So they're

790
00:56:29,839 --> 00:56:35,920
they're they're doing it all right and then saying these things and I guess

791
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:40,000
correctly getting credit for it. So awesome. Also, I think Witcher 3 is the

792
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:44,720
highest rated game ever on Metacritic right now. Yeah. You sent me Hangouts

793
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:48,160
the other day. Yeah, that's bananas.

794
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:51,359
Doing good. Hell yeah. All right. Uh

795
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:53,119
Elon Musk reveals part two of the master

796
00:56:51,359 --> 00:56:59,680
plan. The funny thing about the original master plan, and he says this in the um

797
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:03,599
in the part two master plan, is that Tesla's business model, for anyone who's

798
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:08,720
ever like doubted it or told them they were stupid or said that they're bad

799
00:57:05,359 --> 00:57:10,960
people for making only cars that could

800
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:15,760
master, it was always on their site. and he's like, "I wrote this so that people

801
00:57:13,119 --> 00:57:21,839
wouldn't criticize what we're doing. It didn't work. Oh well, here I go

802
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:25,119
again." Revealing the master plan. The thing is though, he he does say that and

803
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:31,520
he says it was like nearly useless or whatever. But he has had his like

804
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:35,280
cheering squad who did read it and he has been able to use it as a

805
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:39,040
counterargument and so it has served him in a way I think just not nearly as much

806
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:42,640
as he not as much as he hoped. Yeah. Every once in a while, you kind of go,

807
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:47,119
"Okay, I'm going to go out on a limb here and I'm gonna I'm gonna go full

808
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:50,720
transparency mode with my customers or my viewers or whatever else." And you

809
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:58,240
know what? Sometimes it works. I took a lot of internal flak over honest answers

810
00:57:54,880 --> 00:58:00,400
episode two, how does LMG make money?

811
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:04,240
Where I had people telling me, look, like, why are we talking about this?

812
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:07,839
We're just opening up the doors for people to criticize us for making money.

813
00:58:06,319 --> 00:58:11,920
something that people love criticizing us for. Yeah, I'm sorry that we're a

814
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:16,880
business. We're not Twitch streamers and I'm sorry that I'm sorry that we make money. I'm not sorry at all. And that

815
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:20,599
was the point of Honest Answers. Here are the ways we do it. I want you guys

816
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:26,960
to understand how we do it so you understand what motivates us, what

817
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:29,760
drives us, and what drives us is content

818
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:36,160
for you guys because ultimately we will make no money if we don't have you. So,

819
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:41,760
we actually do read a lot of the comments on our videos. I read probably

820
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:46,280
95% of the comments that are posted on one of our videos in the first day. I

821
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:51,680
claim that I don't, but I do. And you know what? So does Nick. And

822
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:58,160
so does Ivonne. And so do the editors. And so does John. So does Dennis. We all

823
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:03,760
care. We really do care. And we are not going to throw away our audience over,

824
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:07,839
you know, NVIDIA or Intel or Microsoft or any gigantic corporation that can

825
00:59:05,839 --> 00:59:12,160
write us a check because a check is a one-time thing. An audience is something

826
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:16,640
that we can continue to engage with and interact with and that we can continue

827
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:20,720
to show brands, hey, we've got all these guys that we're talking to every day. If

828
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:26,079
you want to reach these guys, you got to talk to us and you got to do it regularly. So that's that was why I

829
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:30,480
went, "Okay, I'm going to go like full transparency mode here." Sometimes it

830
00:59:27,839 --> 00:59:34,960
works. And honestly, that seemed to work really well. People seem to really get

831
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:38,400
what I was trying to say, and they understood the point of what I was

832
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:42,480
doing, and it didn't turn into a a negativity poo storm.

833
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:46,720
Okay, so sometimes it doesn't work. That was kind of where I was going. Yeah.

834
00:59:44,319 --> 00:59:51,920
Anyway, here's the TLDDR of part two of the master plan. Create stunning solar

835
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:55,839
roofs with seamlessly integrated battery storage.

836
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:59,599
Expand the electrical electric vehicle product line to address all major

837
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:03,680
segments, including semi-truckss and other trucks. And I wish there was a

838
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:09,040
minivan cuz I just bought a gas minivan. Um, develop a self-driving capability

839
01:00:05,839 --> 01:00:12,079
that is 10 times safer than manual via

840
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:13,839
massive fleet learning. Enable your car

841
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:18,000
to make money for you when you aren't using it through ride sharing programs.

842
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:23,280
and probably they have other creative ideas. So once it's able to automatically drive, not only will you

843
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:26,720
be able to summon it, but you'll be able to go like, "Hey little buddy car thing,

844
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,680
I'm at work. Go just like drive people around and make me money." Yep. Go back

845
01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:35,839
to my house where I'm not paying for electricity because my roof is covered in solar power, solar cells. And uh then

846
01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:39,440
when you're done with that, go and uh go and pick up some dudes or recharge at a

847
01:00:37,839 --> 01:00:42,000
Tesla station because that's also free. Yep. Yeah. Well, it won't it might not

848
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:47,440
be able to do that. Oh, I guess it probably could do that automatically. Yeah.

849
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:51,200
Oh man, pretty excited. The car will probably be able to talk to the Tesla

850
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:57,520
station. The car will park exactly where it needs to and then it'll just rip.

851
01:00:54,319 --> 01:01:00,079
Wonderful. All right, so this is a phone

852
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:06,960
that I was actually planning to review and then I ended up sending back uh when

853
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:09,359
I realized that I that the $99 price

854
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:12,160
point is a little bit deceptive. I want to say one quick thing before we keep

855
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,799
going forward. Yes, I'm sure there's people I haven't looked at at all, but

856
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:18,240
I'm sure there's people in the Twitch chat going like if it goes and picks up

857
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:23,440
people by itself, they're just going to like trash the car and that's possible.

858
01:01:20,319 --> 01:01:25,520
It's probably going to be a uh Uber

859
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:29,040
style app thing that you have to use and your credit card will be attached to it

860
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:34,079
and they'll have IDs attached to it and if you screw up the car, they'll just

861
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:37,119
wreck you, right? So, yeah, it's

862
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:40,240
probably fine. I mean, probably stuff

863
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:43,520
will happen. Yes, definitely stuff will

864
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:46,079
happen. Yeah, but for the most part,

865
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:49,440
maybe it'll be okay. Yeah. Um, and I mean, you could I'm sure that they're

866
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:54,000
going to I'm sure they're going to make it kind of smarter than we're thinking,

867
01:01:52,799 --> 01:01:59,520
you know, like you could probably have like a trusted list of people that you're willing to share your car with

868
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:04,240
even. Oh, if that would be like family and friends rides. Like you could have

869
01:02:02,319 --> 01:02:08,160
this acting like a text. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You could you could

870
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:11,599
decide what level of sharing you want to do and you and you could treat it like a

871
01:02:09,839 --> 01:02:16,400
social network. So you could say friends of friends are okay. Yeah. So if you

872
01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:20,160
need to borrow your buddy's truck and he has a Tesla truck and you have a Tesla

873
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:24,480
car, you can like send your car off to him for the day. Borrow his truck for

874
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:27,359
the day and then switch back later on. That's cool. You don't even have to

875
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:31,119
worry about your buddy crashing your truck. He doesn't know how to drive it

876
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:34,319
because the Tesla thing is going to drive it for it. Yep. So, like there's

877
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:39,119
there's all kinds of cool stuff and like they're going have to make Tesla trailers. Like, oh man, that's treating

878
01:02:37,359 --> 01:02:44,640
it like a social network. I like that. That's smart. Like that would be so

879
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:47,839
cool. Anyway, back to the ZTE Zmax Pro.

880
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:50,799
It is a $99 phone, which absolutely blew

881
01:02:47,839 --> 01:02:55,839
me away cuz it has a 1080p IPS display. It has um a Qualcomm processor. So, it's

882
01:02:53,920 --> 01:03:00,720
not it's not a Snapdragon 820, let's be realistic, but it is Qualcomm. It's not

883
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:07,280
MediaTek. Um, it's got 32 gigs of storage, 2 gigs of RAM, uh, 3,400

884
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:10,240
milliamp battery. Um, like it's pretty

885
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:15,200
freaking impressive. 6-inch display. It is missing a couple things. It does not

886
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,799
have dualband Wi-Fi, 2.4 GHz only. It

887
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:21,039
does not have NFC. There was one other thing that really irked me. Um, and so I

888
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:25,520
was going to review the crap out of this. I was like, "Oh my goodness, I've got this in my hand. I'm like ready."

889
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:29,440
And then I realized Metro PCS. Like, I couldn't put my SIM in. It wasn't

890
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:34,720
unlocked. And they wouldn't even ZTE wasn't able to unlock it for me because

891
01:03:31,839 --> 01:03:41,559
you have to have it active on a Metro PCS plan for 90 days in order to get the

892
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,559
$100 rebate.

893
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:48,920
Now, I'm so excited for Tesla trucks.

894
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:55,839
Um, at the prepaid. Okay. Yeah. And it

895
01:03:52,880 --> 01:04:01,440
will remain at $99. This is not just an intro promo. So, okay, very impressive

896
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:05,839
phone. If you are looking for like a prepaid phone carrier and you just need

897
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:08,799
like a cheap device and then you you want to like port it over to a different

898
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:11,359
carrier later, have a look at which bands it supports. Double check. Make

899
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:18,319
sure it supports the bands of the carrier of your choice. But I would highly recommend it based on the price.

900
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:20,240
At 99 bucks, it like felt good. I didn't

901
01:04:18,319 --> 01:04:24,799
test out the camera much, so I wouldn't expect it to be anything special, but it

902
01:04:22,559 --> 01:04:30,400
blew me away in terms of the rest of the functionality at 99 bucks with uh NFC

903
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:35,520
being a bit of a bummer and 5 GHz Wi-Fi being like a pretty big

904
01:04:32,839 --> 01:04:37,839
bummer. I had the phone actually shipped it back to them today because I was

905
01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:42,640
like, "Look, I'm not reviewing this. I'm sorry." I thought it was 99 unlocked.

906
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:45,760
That's why I was like so excited. Um now I'm just like a little bit excited. So,

907
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:50,319
I'll cover it on WAN Show and I will hold up the phone, but I can't because

908
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:53,200
Jake's too efficient.

909
01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:57,760
Way to go, Jake. Way to go, Jake. You jerk.

910
01:04:54,960 --> 01:05:01,960
Um, I think that's pretty much all that I Oh, actually, no. I really want to I

911
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,720
want to do this. Techchnica.co.uk. Wearable maker Fitbit

912
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:11,680
must face lawsuit over sleep tracking claims.

913
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:13,599
They are just getting wrecked. I mean,

914
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:16,559
let's talk about fitness trackers for a minute here. I know Luke has a piece

915
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:20,640
planned where he's going to be comparing a bunch of different I don't think I want to say anything. Should I say

916
01:05:19,119 --> 01:05:25,039
anything about it yet? No, because I don't know anything. Okay. And if you

917
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:28,480
don't weigh in, then you don't have to like hold anything back and I can just

918
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:32,559
say whatever and you can just sit there poker face and we won't know how true or

919
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:37,680
untrue any of it is. But basically my experience with fitness trackers is that

920
01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:43,760
they spit out meaningless numbers and due to battery life constraints um are

921
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:47,359
not able to actually perform the functions that they claim to perform.

922
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:53,480
Things like sleep tracking for a device that I have to take off even once or

923
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:55,920
twice a week to charge at night is just

924
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:59,280
stupid because it's not actually getting the whole picture. And I haven't even

925
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:02,960
looked at any of my notes on this yet. So, class action laws lawsuit accusing

926
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:08,160
Fitbit of misrepresenting the ability for it to track sleep and okay and it

927
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:12,160
can move forward says a federal judge. Uh, San Francisco the San Francisco

928
01:06:10,319 --> 01:06:15,760
federal lawsuit claims Fitbit materially misrepresented their packaging of their

929
01:06:14,079 --> 01:06:19,760
flex product to track users hours, slept times woken up, and sleep quality. The

930
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:24,480
suit alleges false advertising, unfair trade practices, fraud, and other

931
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:29,359
claims. Yeah, it could still be dismissed, but

932
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:34,079
um I mean there at some point, you know, fitness tracker wearers, wearable makers

933
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:39,280
who for the most part, as far as I can tell, are just kind of not doing enough

934
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:40,880
R&D on all of this stuff. Um we're going

935
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:46,559
to get taken to task and it looks like it's happening now. I'm I'm just going

936
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:50,880
to what I'll say for now is that I think

937
01:06:46,559 --> 01:06:53,960
you're pretty close.

938
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:58,280
End of an era. Original article from CDV

939
01:06:53,960 --> 01:07:02,079
News. Japan to manufacture the last ever

940
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:04,480
VCR this summer. So if you want a VCR

941
01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:08,960
brand new, now is the time to get it. Wonder who's going to get the last

942
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:13,440
manufactured VCR ever. Funi Electric Company is the last remaining Japanese

943
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:17,280
manufacturer of VCR devices. Uh they've sold under various names like Sano in

944
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:22,440
North America and they've been making VHS recorders since 1983.

945
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:29,760
They reported sales of 750,000 video recorders worldwide in

946
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:31,200
2015. And uh this is pretty much it.

947
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:34,640
There was actually a pretty good summary of you know what VHS was for those of

948
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:40,000
you who are fairly young and don't really remember it. Um but going back

949
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:43,920
going back in time, Philips and Sony presented their first realtore video

950
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:49,039
tape recorders in the 1960s and the first home devices followed in the 1970s

951
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:52,559
and were actually showcased at CES. Several formats sprung up over the years

952
01:07:51,039 --> 01:07:57,440
to compete in the consumer market. Sony's Betamax and the widely adopted

953
01:07:54,480 --> 01:08:01,359
VHS developed by JVC. It launched officially in 1976 with the first

954
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:05,039
compatible recorders released in Japan before rolling out worldwide. VHS

955
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:09,440
cassettes could record between 30 minutes and 5 hours of video footage.

956
01:08:07,359 --> 01:08:12,880
And over time, VCR recorders were even capable of doubling this capacity,

957
01:08:11,119 --> 01:08:16,799
recording up to 10 hours on a single cassette. Although considered better

958
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:21,600
quality, Betamax never managed to rival the VHS format. And uh actually at the

959
01:08:19,759 --> 01:08:26,239
end of 2015, Sony announced it would stop selling Betamax cassettes

960
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:29,120
commercially this year as well. It's

961
01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:33,040
over an end of an era. And actually that leads us into yet another topic that we

962
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:40,080
really have to cover. An era that just won't end. The WRT 54GL. How many have

963
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:45,679
you owned? How many have I owned? I have never owned one. Or bought for someone

964
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:48,159
else. I bought one. Okay, that's it. I

965
01:08:45,679 --> 01:08:53,279
bought one for someone else and that's that's it.

966
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:56,880
Um, in terms of recommending at a store that I worked at, my number is I don't

967
01:08:55,279 --> 01:09:01,040
even know. If we want to talk about that, mine's a lot higher. Yeah,

968
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:05,679
probably. That's true. Yeah. Um, but ludicrous amounts. And I've bought for

969
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:11,199
myself or like friends and family. I think four.

970
01:09:07,480 --> 01:09:12,799
So, it was released in 2005, which when

971
01:09:11,199 --> 01:09:18,000
we talk about in terms of technology products is ridiculous. Yes. Um, it's a

972
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:24,000
54 megabit per second router. It's wireless G. I mean, it's not even dual

973
01:09:21,319 --> 01:09:29,920
band. Like, why do people still want this? Well, the open source firmware,

974
01:09:26,719 --> 01:09:32,480
the reliability make it attractive. You

975
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:35,839
can buy a new router for less money. Get the benefit of modern standards,

976
01:09:33,839 --> 01:09:41,920
expansion into the 5 GHz band, and data rates more than 20 times higher. So, the

977
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:45,679
54GL costs around 43 bucks US on Amazon. But despite this, people are buying it

978
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:51,520
in large enough numbers that Lynxis continues to earn millions of dollars

979
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:54,080
per year with it. This is a great quote.

980
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:59,880
Lynxis global product manager Vince Lass uh Vince Leuka, excuse me, told ours,

981
01:09:56,719 --> 01:10:02,400
"To be honest, it somewhat baffles my

982
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:08,520
mind, but we'll keep building it because people keep buying

983
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,520
it." Wonderful.

984
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:16,400
All right, so I think that pretty much wraps it up. Thank you very much for

985
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:21,120
tuning in to the WAN Show this week. I'm sorry it was late. I think based on how

986
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:24,560
smoothly the stream has gone since we started it and got the audio fixed that

987
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:29,120
I'm basically not going to touch anything and hopefully we will be good

988
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:32,640
to go next week. That strategy has definitely worked for us in the past and

989
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:36,560
it has also not worked for us at times in the past ever. Ever. So that was my

990
01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:42,159
point. Thank you for watching and we will see you again next week. Same bat

991
01:10:38,159 --> 01:10:45,040
time, same bat channel. Bye.

992
01:10:42,159 --> 01:10:50,239
There's no intro. Carrying a couch.

993
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:55,280
Lionus drops the couch and laughs. I keep

994
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:58,400
going. I laugh. There's not that big of a delay between

995
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:03,679
you laughing and dropping the couch. Yeah, I think it's funny immediately. I

996
01:11:01,159 --> 01:11:07,920
think we're sitting on a couch together. We move a little bit on the couch cuz oh

997
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,920
my god, we can't make graphics apparently.