Okay, welcome to the WAN Show, ladies
and gentlemen, where we have one hour
and 20 minutes late. I believe this may be maybe the latest that we have ever
been. We are the whole duration of the show late. Yes, that is a thing that
happened today. And um yep, to be
perfectly honest with you guys, the stream is still not perfect.
Um I cannot I I cannot run the intro
video clip for some inexplicable reason.
We should just carry one of the chairs and then you can like drop it partway
through right when you get in frame and then like sit there and go like
going. We could do it. Yeah, we could we
could do that. It's okay. I'm just I'm not gonna Yeah, I'm not going to worry
about it. Uh let's just let's just go ahead and get this show on the freaking
road here. Let's get it Let's get it on
the road cuz uh
uh apparently there's a Oh, yeah. I know. I know why there's an echo. I know
why there's an echo. Don't worry. Don't worry, you guys. We got this. Don't
worry about it. Don't worry about it. Awesome. I still had the I just had the
speakers on on my laptop because I didn't have my uh my headphones plugged
in for a second here. We should be all good now. Let's go ahead and talk about
what topics we're going to be hitting today. Topic number one is the NVIDIA
GeForce GTX Titan X.
Titan X again. Titan X 2. If you know we
were to take the Final Fantasy approach to this, the the way they're going with
it is they're calling it Titan X Pascal.
Well, we'll we'll get into that a little bit more later. what we both think of that. Also, Facebook wants to use
freaking lasers to deliver high-speed internet to remote areas. I approve of
this simply because it involves freaking lasers, but we'll talk more about the
rest of it later. Of course, NVIDIA also dropped a 1060 this week cuz
uh apparently releasing gratudous amounts of graphics cards all at once is
a good idea. Also, owner of Kickass Torrance was arrested and is about to be
absolutely screwed. Yes. Yes, he is. All right, let's roll the
intro. It doesn't work. No, it's so far off.
And see, like you you start kind of going Mario and then you switch it.
Ministry of Supply.
I fix it.
So, I'm having I'm having I'm running into a weird issue. I think it's a video
codecreated thing where every time I try and play a a video file, our streaming
software crashes. Maybe iFix it could release a i ifixit guide on how we can
fix the stream. I would love it if
iFixit had like like a tearown guide of
xsplit. Yeah, like a tearown guide of just streaming in general because
because we need all the other things figured out too at this point. tear down guide of audio solutions, streaming
software, streaming software utilities,
audio monitoring, all that kind of stuff. All the things the lower third
works, pictures work, videos don't work. So, so there you go. That's where that's
where we're at with that. Um, I feel like I was in the middle of an
explanation of why we were so late last time. And I know that we're an hour and
20 minutes late, but I'm going to explain it anyway because there is a
valid reason. It was all because I was trying to fix it. So, first I took the
Stream Computer and upgraded it from X79
with a two generational top-of-the-line CPU to X99. I used the X99 Deluxe board,
which like our experience with rock solid freaking awesome board. It's
probably How many people get that? I I I hate
you. How many people get that? Can we straw poll? I hate using Can you go
ahead and straw poll? In fact, uh, hold on a second.
I believe there actually is a Luke screen HDMI now. Oh, what? I was making
upgrades, my main man. That sort of makes sense. I was I was making
upgrades. I was doing things. I was trying to make the stream better. Is
this set up? Am I going to ruin things by plugging this in? I don't know. Let's
find out. So, anyway, X99 Deluxe motherboard. The
most basic like low-speed DDR4 that I
could possibly find. Yeah, that's good. That's a good thing. What just happened
there? Uh screen turned off. It's like
um X99 Deluxe. Uh what what else did I
do? Right. Right. Changed out the CPU, RAM, motherboard, uh new SSD because get
this, as soon as I changed the hardware, I've actually seen this once before, but
when I changed out the hardware, every time I booted, every time I booted to
the existing Windows install, no USB
device could be detected. unplugging, replugging, going into the BIOS,
changing EHCI, XHCI handoff, all that stuff. Nothing did anything. I even
pulled it out of this machine, put it in a different machine. No USB devices. And
because nothing has PS2 anymore, there's no way to even try to fix it. So, I may
just keep that drive forever as like as like a trophy of the kind of
that I have to go through sometimes. So, I had to reinstall the OS. I mean,
meanwhile, it's like it's like 3:15 at this point. Like, I got lots of time.
I'm feeling pretty good. Um, so I reinstall the OS. I get my new capture
cards going and I'm still my my capture
my my streaming software is still crashing. It's still crashing. So I'm
changing out my XLR input to a different one and it's it's still crashing. And
I'm like, what is going on? Turns out turns out video file, which is why I was
late in the first place. And then we had issues with the audio quality on the
stream, which is why we were yet another 20 minutes late. So, I'm very sorry
about all that. Let's find out if it was all worthwhile by switching over to the
Luke screen scene.
There's There's nothing there.
Wasn't set up at all. Okay, just hold on. Just hold on. Just hold on. Hold on.
I was I didn't set it up. I didn't set it up. Okay, just just wait. Just wait.
He named He named the scene and then was just like, "That's enough."
Oh my. Uh, try unplugging and plugging it back
in. Okay, let's see. Let's see. And also make sure your sound is off because
otherwise they're going to get all your sound things. Have you tried turning it
off and back on again?
Oh god. Oh no.
Oh no. Uh, well, you can very clearly see
that uh the yes votes are at 13%. The no
votes are at 52%. And the turnup votes are at 35%.
Oh. Oh, hold on. There's a loose connection. It's a loose connection.
Hold on. Hold on. I just got to tighten this up. Hold on. See, seem to Oh, it
seemed to get better there. Oh. Oh. It's not better. Hold on. I I took it out. I
took it out. Okay. Um,
can they even still hear us? Oh, no. All
right. So, uh, well, well, you guys get the point. And we're never sharing
Luke's screen again. No, no, we will share Luke's screen again someday. I just I hadn't actually done that. Not
this day. But it was not this day. One does not simply
What are we going to do, my precious? Uh, we're going to talk about GTX 1060
as if nothing happened. Like, yeah, let's do that. The stream is completely
fine. All right, our original article here. Hold on. Hold on. I got my my my
screen works. Our original article is ours Technica and not our own
review. What the heck? Come on,
bro. I made a video about this. Everyone's a critic, yo. Oh, man. Oh,
wow. Colton was just I think he was taking out some angst cuz I was giving
him I was giving him crap about something like last Friday and you know
I apologized for it after because my management technique was less than
stellar on that occasion. Okay. But I think he's I think he's going to be
trying to get back at you know he can't really get back at me because I'm his
boss. So he might just be taking it out on you for the next little bit. I'm
technically also his boss. I'm kind of actually, you know, you couldn't fire
him directly, but if you were like, "Yo, Lionus, let's have a heartto-heart. I
think we really need to fire Colton. He's been stealing things. I brought him
into this world. I can make him leave this world." Yeah. I think maybe indirectly, but Yeah. I I think I think
I would have to take your word over his. Like, if you said Colton stole a bunch
of stuff and Colton's like, "Yo, go to Luke's house. It's all there." Like set
up around his computer. I'd be like,
"You know what, Colton? It's probably you who put it there."
So now Colton knows that there's just this thing. And now Luke knows that if
he ever wants to steal stuff and blame it on, that's exactly how it's going to go
down. And all I have to do is leave it very specifically around my computer and
then I'll be like, "Look, this is exactly what we talked about would happen. It's exactly what you said would
happen. This and and you can turn that. You're just so smart. You knew it would
happen this way." And how can I not believe you when you're so astute as to
observe my intelligence being what it is? Of course. Well, let's talk about
GTX 1060. So, in a nutshell, the RS
Technica headline kind of covers it, or the by line, I guess it's called. GTX
1060 is faster than 980 for just a little bit more cash than the RX 480.
What's missing from that summary is
um how it compares in terms of speed to the RX 480, which is so you can't have a
performance comparison to some thing that's not available anymore and then a
price comparison to some other completely unrelated thing from a completely different company that um we
don't we don't like performs. Give me a second really quick because something
that's been kind of weird in a lot of reviews, including my own, I'm going to
admit this right now because it's hard to quantify. Um, okay. I want to see if
you can even buy any of them. GTX 1060s.
Yes. So, there is one GTX 1060 currently
available on Amazon, and I think it's a mislabeled product. Nope. Nope, that's a
1060. There is one of them available from EVGA. So, we'll see how long that
lasts. Um, and everything else that you look for when looking up 1060 is mostly
1070s. And looking at the
Amazon.com prices for these things in my
video, I said that I didn't think they were going to be near the 249 USD price
point because of what I saw with the 1070 and the 1080, right? and I was
slammed by certain people because there was an official price list released that
had them closer to the 249 price point. But what I said in the video was that I
didn't think that the 1060 and the 480 should even necessarily be compared that
closely because the 480 is 200 bucks and the 1060 is probably going to be around
300. So looking at Amazon.com, not.ca,
there is the EVGA GeForce 1060 currently
sitting at $339 and there's only one of them. And
this posting is from EVGA. Um, there is
a Gigabyte GeForce 1060 G1 gaming
edition for $346. Okay. There is Are you looking at CA
or.com? Okay. So, US pricing. Zotac AMP
edition. I sure wish we could share your 345. You could do this. It's really No,
no, it's okay. Um, basically my point is
the prices for all these things are just like whimsical imaginations of
possibility. Like the what what is it?
My my brother was trying to look at the 1080 stricks and right now in Canada
it's like $1,300 or something really.
It's just like holy crap. What the hell?
Like these cards are in such low stock
that I think what's happening is retailers are just like, "Well, we're
sold out for forever, so we might as well just crank the price up." You know,
it's interesting because that kind of thing didn't used to really happen. I
mean, I worked at a retailer for a lot
of wow, I don't know, 6 years or something like that. And so, I saw the
behind the scenes of what actually goes
on with a product launch like this. And you know the consumer you know loves to
hate and say you guys are gouging you're doing this and you know the reality of
it would be that the Canadian dollar had dropped 5% in the last four days or
something like that and you know ultimately we were just losing money on
everything that we had sold before we adjusted pricing because we would get
paid in or sorry we would have to pay in US dollars but we would get paid by the
customer in CAD. So you had to kind of guess because you're on net 30 anywhere
from net 30 to net 60 terms. So in
actual fact normally NCIX was pretty
darn close to whatever the normal markup
was supposed to be once converted from US to Canadian and then with you know a
few percentage points on top so that you're actually making a little bit of
money. And what I'll say about the board partners is that when it comes to the
vanilla cards, they might opt not to
make as many basic cards as they
potentially could, right? EVGA could take every single GTX 1080 that comes
into the door, every single GPU, and they could put it on their lowest cost
card, and they could sell them all at the lower price. or they could, you
know, at least supply some of those so that the people who want a deal on
something that's not a super clock or a KO edition or an AACSX Plus or Kingpin
or whatever else, so those guys can get a card if they're willing to wait a
little bit. And then I would put as much of my stock as I can based on what'll
hit those clock speeds into the ones that I can sell for a higher price. And
that is the way that video card makers
generally mark something up by having a
different skew, not by just hiking up
the price of a card. There have been exceptions to be very clear. 8800 GT
went up from from the top like from the
from the very beginning of the supply chain. To my knowledge, and I don't have
any confirmation of this, so you guys don't quote me on it, but to my
knowledge, NVIDIA jacked the price and the board partners jacked the price.
Colton, can I borrow you for a minute? And retailers were somewhat
opportunistic on that particular card as well. And the same thing may be happening. Do you mind grabbing my um
power adapter? My laptop is going to die very, very soon. It's just in the main
pocket there. Thank you. I didn't know where you were going with that. Also, um
Yeah. I'd like to I'd like to give you an opportunity to uh here. Can you plug
that into the back of the UPS first, though? I' I I feel like it's only fair
to give you an opportunity to defend yourself because we talk a lot of smack.
Okay. What do you What do you What am I defending myself on? We talk a lot a lot
of smack. um in the event that that it
was your word against Luke's, you know, and he was saying you stole a bunch of
stuff from the office and and you and
you pointed out to me that um actually all that stuff was on Luke's desk at
home. Do you think I should believe you who
I've only known for a little over a year? Definitely. Or should I believe or
should I as a troll? Definitely believe me. But I know you wouldn't though.
That's the thing. I would be so screwed.
So, I just got to not piss you off to make you want to do that and we'll be
good. Okay, thank you. That actually settled it. So, it turns out Luke is in
fact Colton's boss by
indirectly because we all acknowledge that Colton has to suck up to him in
order to save himself. Okay. Thank you, Colton. You're wonderful. We appreciate
you very much. Just Yeah, it closes the door. Okay. So, I did some more
investigating. Okay. I went on neweag.com. Not only if you look for GTX
1060 is literally everything on the
first page and I think there's Yep, there's only one page. Every single item
is listed as out of stock, but a lot of
the prices are actually pretty normal, but they're all out of stock. You can't
buy any of them. If you go to RX480, same thing. Or they're like
computers and stuff or completely unrelated products, which is weird.
Maybe you should work on your algorithm. New egg. When I literally type in RX480,
I'm not talking about a uh Mazda RX8 air
conditioning AC cooling parallel flow condenser assembly. That's not what I'm
looking for. Anyways, uh one of them has
stock of two items and it's let me find
it again. Give me one second. Where'd it
go? There. It's $49 for a $200 graphics card.
What? I am so like
how I am trying to get us uh I'm trying
to get us an input so you can screen share because I'm personally really
appreciating this like real time shopping study. But I'm I'm even like
mostly done. But my my problem is how am I even really supposed to compare these
cards? Because at this point, one of the manufacturers could be like, "It's 50
bucks there. Do your price comparisons. We win." Then you go to the store and
it's like, "Nope, it's $400." I hope they can hear us. What? Oh, okay. Okay.
Hold on. Hold on. I got an idea. No,
that's not the right idea. Can they hear us? I don't know. I don't know. I don't
know. No video. I don't know. Everything is scary right now. Everything is scary.
Video output. Um Um Um I don't I don't
know. We can hear. We can They can hear. They can hear. I don't know what I'm looking at. I don't know if I plugged it
into the right thing. Go on. Scream along with Lionus even though we can't
hear you. Just do it at home. Just
shut up. Why are you being mean to me?
No, it was Colton. Oh, Colton. I wasn't being mean to you. Oh, you're right.
I don't know why I didn't realize it was So, you're just so smart. That's why you
ended up figuring it out, though. Not everything has to come to you immediately cuz you're you're just
dealing with so many things at once. Um, so I'm on a completely different level.
Yeah. Oh, can you plug that in? That might have something to do with it. Uh,
the HDMI cable for your laptop. Really? Yeah. I'm trying to That might be That
might be part of the reason why loop screen capture is not um is I didn't
even know we were trying to do loop screen capture. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to I'm trying to get I'm trying to get
you uh I'm trying to get you back up and running here. Okay. So, my computer has
done the freakout thing, so we're ready to go. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Everything's on duplicate. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. No. Okay. Yeah. No. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah. No. Okay. Yeah. No. Okay.
This sounds like a phone conversation with like that guy that just really
doesn't care about what's going on on the other end.
Yeah. No. Okay, let's be back now. Oh,
see, I think I was plugging to the right thing in the first place, but Oh, dear.
I I think like like I'm I'm done. I think I said everything that Okay. Yeah.
No. Okay. Well, why don't you talk Why don't
you talk 1060 now? I was talking 1060
the whole time. Oh, okay. You're done. Anyways, it's it's I'll I'll give a
brief overview of what I said. It's very difficult. Well, did you talk like specs
at all or do we care? I was going to finish that part of the conversation
before time. Okay. Can I jump in with something that I had wanted to add? So,
it with respect to the the pricing conversation. So, Sapphire actually sent
me uh ND Oh. Oh, yeah. Okay. The NDA
lifted like uh 6 hours ago. Perfect. Sweet. So, they have a Nitro Plus RX480
because we wanted to talk about like how the pricing of these cards might kind of
creep together depending on if you compare a low-end or creep apart or
creep apart or whatever based on like crazy pricing in different areas. But my
point was that usually in the US you have the most stable pricing structure
because that's where they're making their initial pricing, but it's just
complete lunacy in the US, meaning it's even more crazy. So tell me this. The 4
gig RX480, you know, whatever. Nitro X is
$220. Okay. MSRP. Yeah. The 8 gig is $270.
What would you buy? Do you find the cheapest 1060 you can find or do you buy
a high-end RX 480?
Uh, from my experience so far, it it
depend. Can you actually get them at that price?
Because that was what I was just talking about is not only is everything sold out
in general, so you can't even buy it if you wanted to, but the prices of them is
crazy as well, right? So like the
pricing that they're sending in the email, is that actually real? Because
right now on Newegg, the only available 480 is over $400,
right? So it's it's four uh where is it?
Give me one second. I keep on losing it. Out of stock. Out of stock. Out of
stock. Out of stock. Out of stock. Out of stock. $49 is the only one
that's currently not out of stock. It's a Vision Tech card. Okay. There are
additional pages. I haven't looked into the additional pages, but I did one
entire page of products. Decided that was probably enough. All right. So, um I
guess so, so basically our our usual guidance remains true. event, we
generally recommend sticking with
uh the the higherend card versus buying a high-end of a lower-end GPU. Yeah.
Okay, fine. But like if you can even get
it. Let's talk high-end cards. NVIDIA announces the new GTX Titan X, which
they're calling NVIDIA Titan X. Now, I could probably go off Oh, I was going to
have you leave that plugged in so that I can still try things. Um, I could
probably go off on a rant for a good solid 10 minutes, however long you want,
about naming things the same thing that
they were already named when they are a completely different product or saying
new. Yes. Or whatever, like the new, you
know, it's it's like it's like everyone took everything that was wrong with
shampoo marketing and you know, now with 33%
more 33% more than what? 33% more of
what? What am I comparing this to? Is it a product from last month? Is it a
product from four years ago? What is their 30 one? How do I understand this?
One thing that I do understand in terms of that naming, the only time that I
think it actually made sense was Battlefield 1.
Really? Because they went back.
Okay. So, that sort of made sense. I'm still not a huge fan of it, but this is
different. This isn't a reboot. This is a sequel. No, I'm not saying it's okay
here. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. No. No. We're agreeing that it's not okay
here because there's a lot of things that are confusing about this. It's
confusing for retailers because SEO is
hard enough when you don't have to. Basically, the only way that I can think
of to fix your SEO from old generation
Titan X versus new generation Titanex is manually. Like you will basically have
to go into your backend and go okay if
Titan X created before you know what they should do then do not return result
before created after X like that's they
should uh replace their product pages.
The problem is that the pricing is different. A uh the other problem is
that you might be looking it up for a warranty return. the other no they
should replace their product pages and then remake but with the old cards so
you can still find it but the SEO linking through Google and everything is
still really popular. That's actually a smart way to take advantage of this. I
guarantee no one will do it but and because you should still have your
product page with the old card for warranty reasons and everything that you said. Like NCX for example, I know for a
fact there's no mechanism for them to do that. Like that is not a thing. That
won't be a thing that they'll be able to do. Um so okay, so it's cruise over the
retailer. Okay. It screws over the reviewer because it makes it so that
instead of me just saying Titan P or Titan XP or PX or if we had called it
something that had made an ounce of sense, I have to say Titan X 2016
edition. Like I have to clarify. If you gave us Titan XP, there could have been
all the like little smiley face jokes and stuff and that could have been pretty cool by the way. And that would
have been that would have been way better. Yeah. Anyway, okay. We should just call it the Titan XP from now on.
I'm down. I'm I'm down to do it. I will literally call it that throughout the
entire review. I will do that, too. Cool. We are calling it the Titan XP
from now on. You heard it here first. It is the Titan XP. It is the Titan XP.
Okay. The third person that this screws over and the one that gets screwed over
the most is the consumer.
You are basically making it impossible
for the consumer to understand from reading reviews, googling reviews,
comparing pricing what exactly it is they're buying unless they are an
extraordinarily savvy consumer who really keeps up with the industry by
watching fantastic programming like the WAN Show on a weekly basis. That is the
only way that you will know that one Titan X is different from another more
different Titan X. Oh, someone in the chat even just said win XP with the
Titan XP, right? Like, holy crap, those marketing
campaigns write themselves. Why did you do this? You had such an opportunity. I
know. We used all the XP that we had building amazing GPUs and we turned out
this beast. I NVIDIA leveled up. It's
endless. There's so many. Level up your game. Oh, it's perfect. It's amazing.
They need to rename this card. They do. They have to rename this card like right
now. They need to Okay, here's what they need to do. Okay, NVIDIA, if you guys
are watching, you take the Titan X 2016
editions that you have now, and you turn them into kind of like like a coin with
two-tail sides. Like anyone who bought one or got a giveaway like right at the
beginning. Wow. Okay, they have like this weird It's almost like a misprint.
Okay, so they have like this weird one that like had the wrong name on it. You
just change all the shrouds to Titan XP moving forward. Okay, you got to retool
it. I'm sorry that costs a little bit of money. You're NVIDIA. can afford it and
the Titan XP is the actual name of the product and everyone's like talking
about it. It would be awesome. You should do it. That that would be you
won't but you should because it would be better for absolutely everyone because
this is really confusing for consumers and it's totally unfair. It's already
confusing enough when video card manufacturers take two of the same
product and call it something different. Rebadging is terrible and confusing for
consumers. Now you're taking it a step further and now you might have two
different products that are called the same thing. You're basically just saying, "I
don't really want anyone to understand what it is. I want people to just walk
into a store and have a saleserson sell them the most expensive thing that they
can." That's the message that I'm getting from this and I don't like it.
And speaking of the most expensive thing that they can, the Titan XP is going to
cost $1,200 when it's available August 2nd
directly from NVIDIA. And my bridging point, Wow. back from uh the 1060 stuff
is you're Okay. You're buying Titan X's August 2nd from NVIDIA. Sure. Down the
line when they stop doing that. You mean XPs? Oh, yeah. Sorry. XPS. Um I screwed
up. I called a last generation card. My bad. Um, I'm still I'm still in last
year. Uh, what happens later on? Are
they going to be $1,600? You already price hiked by 200.
In the 1060 review at the very beginning, I have a chart showing how
every one of their new GPUs has been price hiked by a hundred bucks. This is
by 200 bucks. Now, this is something that you may not have been paying
attention for long enough to know, but
NVIDIA actually has not I would say
NVIDIA and AATI/AMD, because that's how far back
this goes, have not actually been that
unreasonable about the way that they have done the pricing of their extreme
top tier hardware. And I will I will explain I will explain why I'm saying
that. I like that EVGA logo because uh Oh yeah, that's really old. That's back
when they were EVGA.com and it was always eva.com. They
actually that was like part of the branding. Um so let me see if I can find
So the the 6800 Ultra Extreme was
basically vaporware. Um and if you're going to build a card that you're
basically saying um let me see if I can
find a reference to pricing here with benchmark. If you're building
a card that you're basically saying, yeah, it's going to be available from our site.
Um, only then something something
something. Yeah, you're basically saying like it's it's pretty much a Vaporware
card. Uh, let me find it. You can expect to pay upwards of $600 for a card of
this caliber and we were unable to locate a retailer that had them in stock
at the moment. Oh, 6800 Ultra Extremes
went for kind of getting somewhat close
to the like, you know, $800, $900 range.
And the 8800 Ultra was actually a pretty
similar story. Ultra price at launch. Let me just see if I can find it. Uh,
okay. So, the 8800 Ultra was priced at $830 and that was released back in 2007.
So, let's use an inflation calculator.
Okay. Inflation calculator. I'm going to use the Bank of Canada one if that's
okay with everyone. How do you use here? So, I'm gonna We'll go ahead. We'll do
this live. So, in 2007, something that cost uh what was
it? 839. 839. Well, I can type a thing.
Tap 839 would cost
calculate. Okay. So, they weren't being unreasonable before. Back when I did the
math based on that Titan X is $1,000.
Yeah. Because Well, I mean, I'm not saying that an $839 card in 2007 wasn't
unreasonable. It was. I'm just saying that um Okay. I don't We're actually
tracking. Okay. But they've jumped ahead by $200 this time. So, you're right. And
I was right um like two days ago. Okay.
Yeah. How about that? We're both right. Okay. Sure. Sure. I think the problem
that people have is jumping by $100 on
XX60 and XX70 and XX80 and jumping by
$200 on Titan doesn't feel like an inflation adjustment. If they adjusted
by little bits every time, it would feel more like inflation adjustments. Now, I
understand that you don't want really weird pricing numbers on your products,
but that's what people are feeling when you do that. They're feeling that one
chunk jump and it doesn't feel great.
Feels bad, man. So, you can actually see here that that probably the last time
they did this then was with the 8800 Ultra because here's our six I remember
these costing more though. Um 6800 Ultra Extremes, they're stupid. You basically
couldn't buy them. Um but they they did a fairly significant jump there and it
looks like they've taken another leap forward in terms of the rel the value of
a GPU like a an ultimate gaming experience relative to eggs and milk. Uh
once again, and I think ultimately the
person that we have to blame for this, or not person, but the entity that we
have to blame for this is AMD. You know, I'm not going to like crap on AMD
because they're having a hard enough time as it is with the things that are
difficult for them, which is apparently everything. Um but if AMD was keeping
NVIDIA in check, then at the high end.
Okay. So, you know, to be clear, 480 looks like a very successful product and
AMD did a really I think it was a smart
move coming in and saying, "Okay, look, we're not going to go toe-to-toe with
NVIDIA this time." Yep. I said that straight up in the review. We're going to hit we're going to we're going to
come from the bottom while NVIDIA can spend all that money that's associated
with building the biggest GPU ever, which they did. Yeah. and they can
trickle that technology down and we're just going to build what we think is the
right thing at the right price from the outset. Fair strategy. I have a video
coming just so people know. Um I'm not
going to go like too into it because I want you to watch the video, but I have
a video coming on uh the 480 and VR and
like how well positioned that card actually is in terms of performance even
more than price. how you can just get this card and be fine for like what
almost anyone is really gonna want. Yeah. And then there will be percentages
of people that want more than that. But it's like it is a problem solver which
is exactly what they needed. So I just I
mean I still I would have personally preferred to see AMD have a you know
Fury XP or whatever would go headto-head
with a Titan XP. Um because that is the
kind of thing that keeps pressure on NVIDIA not to do this kind of thing and
they just didn't Yeah. They just they just
didn't they didn't do it. Yeah. I mean
there's there's still time for Polaris to to go headtohead with with Pascal and
so I'm I'm looking forward to that because that should at least force
NVIDIA to react and
uh yeah I I don't know. I guess I'm I'm kind of out of stuff to say about this.
Okay, there's a new Titan X, 11 teraflops, um 12 billion transistors, 30
3584 CUDA cores, up to 60% faster than
previous Titan X. Cool. Um people are a little upset that it's uh GDDR5X
instead of uh HBM2. Yep. I'm a little
upset, but I totally get why they're doing it. They're just kind of going it
doesn't matter. And they're right. It doesn't matter. Um, so screw it. We're
going to make a little bit more margin. Wait for HBM2 to mature a little bit.
Um, right now it's can just be a low volume part and we'll just keep that in
our in our um scientific computing
cards. Keep that in the Teslas. Fine.
So, I get it. I mean, memory overclocking hasn't done anything on a
video card in a very, very, very long time. And I'm sure that NVIDIA has done
all the research that is required to decide if it's worth it or not. because
apparently the GPU itself does support HBM2. So they just decided to pair it
with GDDR5X. One thing that I'm frustrated about frustrated with which
almost no one is going to be able to sympathize sympathize with me for is
it's being sold on August the
2nd. We heard about it the same day you guys did. I don't have one. I don't How
am I feels bad, man supposed to review this before the release date? We should,
we've been talking about this. So, we've actually been talking about doing this
before. We should review the card before we have the card.
Yeah, because there have been cards where Luke and I have sat down and gone,
"Okay, uh, card's coming. We haven't been briefed on it. We don't have a
deck. We don't have any specs. We have no driver. We have no card. We have nothing." And we basically go, "Okay,
it's going to be like this, and it's going to be like that, and it's going to
be kind of like this, and here's the conclusion." And we should just release
our full review of it. So, we should not sign an NDA. We should not accept a
review unit. And we should release a review the day before. Oh my god.
Without a card. That could be fun. It would be easier with a xx number card.
Yeah. Than a Titan. Yeah. A Titan would be a little difficult. Like it's easier
when they're taking an existing lineup and they're kind of slotting something in. Yeah. Yeah. Like Okay. It would be
pretty easy for us to do that with like a 1080 Ti. Yes. 1080 would be pretty
easy. Uh the 1080 would have been pretty easy. Y the except for in VR. The 1070
would have been pretty easy and the 1060 like I knew it before it even happened.
AMD cards are usually particularly easy, especially when they're the same card
that we reviewed a year ago. Um boom.
480 would have not they would have not been able to do it. No idea what was
coming. I got to give them props. They kept that secret. They did. I I did not
know what was coming. Um, but yeah, like I unless one shows up
on like Monday. Oh, I got so sorry. Someone asked a
question. No, I did not ditch my blade. Um, I'm working on a review of Gigabytes
uh Arrow 14, which is kind of like what
I would call Okay, don't take this the wrong way because it's still a very
expensive computer, but I'm going to call it a poor man's blade. So, it's But
that that that's considering that the blade is like the dude that owns a
yacht. So, it's not really the poor man's blade. It's a relatively speaking
poor man's blade relative to the dude that owns a yacht. Yes. Which is like
everyone. Yes. Okay. So, uh there's a lot of things I like about it. There's a
lot of things I don't like as much about it, but um yeah. Okay. Let's move on to
uh actually we should probably do our sponsor spots. I can't believe we just spent like half the show on the first
two topics. So, first up is I fix it.
iFixit recently got mad at me and I guess during their sponsor spot is the
best time to bring that up. They gave me well they gave Nick crap and Nick gave
me crap because every time every time I
pull out an iFix it kit for a phone repair or for a disassembly vlog or
whatever the case may be, every time I pull one out, I pull out the old Protek
tool kit with the 54-bit driver kit and
they're just like, "Dude, what are you doing?
You're sponsored by iFixit and you're using the old kit all the time. And the
funny thing is is I take flak from the viewers about obvious product placement
is obvious. iFixit doesn't want me to do that. They don't want to pay me to use
the old product that you can't even buy anymore. They ain't interested in that.
Um, so this is cool. I don't know if you know this, but iFixit is actually
sending us upgraded protect tool kits
with embroidered names on them. So you're getting one. I'm getting one with
my name embroidered on. Anyway, the reason that I always had the old kit was because I took the 64-bit one home
because here I have a lot more tools at my disposal than I do at home. So, and
then every time we do an iFixit spot, I run around trying to find it and then
it's missing. Yeah. No, I I'd only told him like weeks and weeks after I had uh
after I had taken it home anyway. Then I'd forget and go run around try to find
it. Anyways, the latest Protek Toolkit has their new 64-bit driver kit, which
means that you can have over 4 gigs of RAM. It's got
Sorry. Um, sorry. It has more bits. It
has more durable parts. It has a better screwdriver that's easier to apply more
torque with. Um, it's got their ESD safe tweezers. It's got the metal spudger.
It's got suction cups to pull apart displays. All kinds of great stuff. It's
backed by iFixit's lifetime warranty. And if you use offer code when on iFixit
site, you can save $5 on a purchase of $10 or more. And we should probably get
that lower third updated because that is not correct. That is an old offer code.
I'm very sorry to iFixit and Nick. I'm
not sorry to Nick, but I'm sorry to fix it. Hopefully they don't they don't hate
us forever. Actually, we may be doing like a like a sponsored video with them.
Oh. sometime soon where we'll be taking something taking something apart in a
really cool way and putting it back together in a really cool way like for
them like uh they're like sponsoring us to do something that I've wanted to do
for a long time but that I've never been able to do because it's extraordinarily
timeconuming and expensive um so they're they're basically footing the bill for
it. So cool guys. We love those guys that I fixed it. Yay. Uh, this is
interesting that no one sort of briefed me on this because I actually have
clothing from Ministry of Supply that I wore last week. All the comments on the
video were like, "Wow, you and Nick look so professional this week compared to
how you guys usually look on the WAN Show." And I think I screwed up the spot
for them. So, I think we're redoing it again this week, but nobody told me, so
I don't have the clothes. But the good news is I did wear them last week. I
wore a beautiful button-up shirt and I actually was wearing pants on the WAN
show for a change. Something that is uh not usually the experience that is going
on under the table here. Yeah, that would have been pretty surprising. So, Ministry Ministry of Supply combines
performance fabrics, advanced manufacturing techniques, and tailored
design to make wear to work clothes that are comfortable and capable. They're
meant to be worn on the body, which is good because they have to look good on
the floor, too. Yeah, they gota
Wow, they're not gonna like this spot either. The products keep you cool and
dry with sweat wicking fibers, breathable fabrics, and NASA developed
phase change materials that help regulate your body temperature, and most
importantly for our audience, everything is easy to care for. Throw it in the
washing machine, throw it in the dryer. That's important for me. Oo,
wrinkle-free even out of the bag. So, it was like all folded up like Colton
handed me a folded collared shirt and was like, "Wear this on the show today."
And I was like, "You have got to be kidding me. I'm gonna look like the
biggest like there there was there's a wedding this weekend and I went and
bought a shirt at the mall on Friday, idiot with like creases down my shirt."
Actually, it was fine. Yeah. So, there's no risk to try. There's free shipping
and returns with a 100-day hassle-free return policy. And it is the perfect
gift for anyone with a birthday or a
thing that you might need to give them a gift for. My notes still say Father's Day, but that is obviously outdated. Or
if someone you know has to go to a wedding on the weekend and it's uh
coming up soon. Yes, indeedy. And you're
like, they're not going to figure this out, so I'm going to do them do this for
them because my name is Avon and their name is Lionus. I'm not going to a
wedding. I'm actually going to a funeral this weekend. And it's has to do something with clothing myself. Feels
bad, right, man? It does. Sorry. Actually, I'm going to a funeral this
weekend. I know. I'm sorry. I will look
presentable at it, though. I started making the joke and then I was like, crap. This is way more applicable than I
thought. Oops. Oh, dang. That's okay.
Facebook wants to deliver high-speed internet everywhere via freaking lasers.
Laser beams. Laser beams. Y I mean to be
clear the idea of internet with with
lasers is actually not that out there.
In fact your internet travels over lasers for sure. Fiber fiber at some
point. Some people can be like I don't have fiber. At some point at some point
if you connect to a website that is not
like in your house friend hosting it. Yeah. your friend hosting it down the
street.
Like, well, actually, Lus, um,
I ran a internet cable to like my my neighbor's house and then we have a a
localized website for checking out what games we both have because Steam is like
there's too much DRM and stuff.
That could happen. Maybe the the worst
part is someone watching our stream has definitely done it.
Like when I was going to explode with like I did it when I was in university.
Uh I put my computer in my neighbor's dorm room cuz we liked gaming in there
because my roommate was a douche canoe. Um but I had the good internet. So we
ran the internet from my room out my window into his window and then would
game. And when it was really cold outside I was like next to the window
but I like the cold. So, we just keep the window open so we could keep fast
internet speeds. Nice game. I like that you've picked up douche canoe because I
picked up broke dick from you. So,
there we go. All right. So, the system uses
invisible infrared laser beams that switch on and off several billion times
per second to exchange data while consuming minimal energy. So, basically
the same as fi fiber optic internet
except that it goes through the air. So, Facebook is working on a means of delivering. Okay, that is basically the
headline. Thank you. The project has taken a step forward after a first test
delivered connection speeds over 2 Gbit per second. So, according to an article
penned by four members of Facebook's connectivity lab published in the
scientific journal Optica, the plan is to deliver these high-speed internet
connections using laser beams to the most remote possible locations. However,
high levels of precision are required to line up the laser correctly. So they
have to aim the beam with precision equivalent to hitting a dime from more
than 10 miles away.
So that's a cool thought experiment. The system also needs to support temperature
differences of up to 90° C.
See the hitting the dime from 10 miles away thing that thing that worries me
with that is like weather. Yeah. And
other things that just happen. Really anything that could happen. Rebel
insurrection. ental plate movement. Yeah. Like that's actually a factor at a
distance of 10 miles away. Like did you see that sinkhole on 200th Street? Yeah.
I have to drive. Like there's just a sinkhole.
What the hell, man? Okay. The middle of a thair. Things just happen. The the
moon moves, the the waters rise and lower, the continental plates shift.
There's there's lots of things that affect the positioning of things on the planet more than you might realize. All
right, speaking of the position of things on the planet, the Hollywood
Reporter is apparently our source for us looks to prosecute the owner of kickass
Torrance after arrest in Poland. Yeah, that's one of the things that's different about this laptop. Doesn't
have a touch screen. I went to zoom in and reposition
it. I do look forward to having the blade back, but this is a pretty sick
notebook. I'm my review is going to be very positive. Um, all right. So, the US
is looking to prosecute Ardum Valin,
alleged owner of Kickass Torrance, after his arrest in Poland. They've announced
that they charged him with conspiracy to commit copyright infringement and money
laundering in connection with the operation of Kickass Torrance. In a
press release, the law enforcement calls Kickass Torrance the most visited
illegal filesharing website with 50
million unique monthly visitors. It is the 69th most visited website on the
internet, which is so delicious. Oh my goodness. Um, and it is allegedly
responsible for enabling users to distribute films, TV shows, and video
games valued at more than $1 billion. That's probably conservative. If you
value each discrete download as the full
cash value of that, that's definitely conservative if that's how you do it.
Yeah, it was very, very conservative. Apple and Facebook actually helped the
US in the investigation and release. Um, so an Apple email belonging to Valin was
found in a who is lookup conducted by Homeland Security. July 31st, 2015
records provided by Apple showed that the mi.com email account was used to
purchase something on iTunes. Logs showed that the same IP was then used to
access the kickass Torrance Facebook page. So he got caught because he bought
something legitimately.
I mean, I guess if I was making Wow. How many millions of dollars a month was it
that they figured it was bringing in? One of the other articles that I um that
I read was uh I I forget. It was like I
I don't know $12 million a month or something obscene. Like the amount of
money it was making was just ludicrous. The guy can afford to buy movies, music,
and videos. So, if he follows the usual the usual pirate logic of I only pirate
because I can't afford it, then hey, maybe it's a good thing he was buying things on iTunes. Um I just think you'd
go to your own store, you know? Yeah, shop at your own free store for free
wares. Yeah.
Um, so there's an update. There's a clone site of Kickass Torrent somewhere
on the web. That doesn't surprise me at all. There's a change.org petition.
Yeah, there's currently at 14,000 signatures asking for that's worth
taking time out of your day to go sign to release him. That is probably not
going to have an effect. It's up to 15,000 supporters now. And there's like
there's like a bar. It's like 9478 more needed to reach
25,000. As if 25,000 will be any different from 25 in terms of the impact
that'll have. But um there you go. Oh,
this is good. Uh recode.net is our original article here. Dollar Shave Club
just sold for $1 billion to Unilever.
$1 billion. Wow. Good old Mike, who I've
never actually met, but I feel like I know him because I've been pimping his
razors for like three years now. Good old Mike is a billionaire. He is still
going to be running the company. Um,
they were projecting more than 200 million in revenue for 2016. Dollar
Shave Club isn't profitable, but he said at a conference in May that the company
could get into the black by year's end. And Unilever has basically gone, "Okay,
that's good enough for us. We're doing it.
Um, wow. So, basically, you know, he's like, "Okay,
yeah, I'm going to keep running it. We we had, you know, good synergy, you
know, talking with each other. The economies of scale they can bring in
will change our business a lot." And that's true. I mean, I've had people
point out that Dollar Shave Club's razors can be purchased in bulk, not
from Dollar Shave Club, if you don't want a weekly delivery. And the reality
of it is is people join Dollar Shave Club. So set so it's set it and forget
it. Not so they can save 22 cents per blade or whatever the difference works
out to. I can't remember how much it was. I did look into it. Um so for
Dollar Shave Club to be able to potentially I mean with the resources
that Unilever can throw at it, they could to advertise more to develop
products faster, develop more unique products, it could end up being a good
investment for Unilever even though it's not even profitable yet. Yeah. and even
more lucrative for Mike in the long term
because the company could bring in so much profit. So overall, hey,
congratulations you guys and uh the next bill we send you is going to be double
now that you got big boy dollars. That would be nice. What I want them to do, I
would really appreciate this. I don't know how they would make make this work
in their model or something, but I want someone to make a good trimmer. A good
trimmer. Oh, good luck. They all are terrible. Good luck. I spent a very
annoying amount of money to just get pissed off to the point where I almost
threw it like a week ago because like it
just it was it was $100. I don't like spending money. I
know you don't. I hate it. I know you do. I sat there in the store for
literally like half an hour being like, I don't like this. And then eventually
was just like okay. Because my previous one broke and it worked somewhat okay.
So I needed a new one. Yeah. M and I was like, I want it to be good and I have
all these complaints about my previous one and this one was supposed to be good and I bought it and it's
worse. It's so bad. You might notice I
have a lot going on right now because I don't I can't return it cuz it's a
hygiene product, right? That's how they get you. Yeah, that's absolutely how
they get you. And it's so bad and I don't want to spend money on another one
cuz it's also going to be bad. And you can't use a razor for everything. To be
very clear, you can use a razor when you want down to the skin. You need to use a
body trimmer if you want to have some amount. Yeah. And I want razor down here
and razor like in here a little bit, which is what I normally do. There's no
point when the rest of the beard is this ridiculous. Um, but I want to use a
beard trimmer for the rest of it and they all are terrible. If Dollar Shave
Club came out with a beard trimmer, I it
would probably be fine and I would use it. It wouldn't have a flashlight and
whatever other stuff he says that in the thing. And that's fine. I don't even
want all the crazy different like the one I have has like millimeter control
and stuff. That's not why I bought it. I don't care. I just want it to cut hair.
Yes. Yep. Oh my goodness. Speaking of just wanting to cut hair, Gorilla Glass
5 is coming and it's more shockproof than ever. The original article here is
from the verge.com. It is meant to survive epic
smartphone drops. Dang. And then the Oh,
this is great. Filing this from a cracked phone. Good job,
Lauren. Um, so yeah, in a nutshell, blah
blah says it'll survive 80% of the time when dropped from 1.6 m. That's really
high. That's pretty freaking good. Uh, wow. So, waist height to shoulder height
is kind of what they were targeting here. They figure 2/3 of smartphone
drops happen from that height. internal probably accurate research done by
Corning showed that 85% of smartphone owners have dropped their phone at least
once in the past year. The survival rate was achieved in tests with pieces of
glass that were 6 mm thick and they make
glass as thin as4 mm. So smartphone OEMs that opt for thinner glass may see
different results. So uh that's about 5
and 1/4 ft. And to be clear, it does not account for corner drops. The testing
was done dropping flat on its face. So,
as phones continue to have smaller and smaller bezels, um I'm not sure if
there's actually much that Corning will be able to do to address that. But hey,
they got to release a new product at some point. Gorilla Glass 3 sat there as
the king of the hill forever. And Gorilla Glass 4 is kind of getting along
in the tooth. So now five with more drop
resistance in a configuration that only Samsung Galaxy S8 Active is likely to
use because everyone else thinks phones have to be like, you know, corset thin.
I like the active line. I'd rather things were like that.
All right, on the subject of kick-ass torrent, our original article here is
from Technobuffalo. Witcher 3 studio talks piracy says it was an irrelevant
factor. These guys really do love to be popular, don't they? Yeah, because I
guarantee you it was a relevant factor,
but they just they just love taking what all the other game devs are saying and
being like, you know what, but that's a positive and
smart way to go about it. It is. They get so much good press. I love it, too.
They they go with this, the privacy factor is irrelevant because we can only
convince them to do it. We totally believe in carrot, not the stick. So
they're being like, "We're the nice guys. Love us." Yeah. Love us. Give us
your money. They are doing all the nice guy things. Yep. They're not saying this
stuff and then and then loading up, you know, uh Stardock and whatever like
eight different levels. G Oh, games for Windows Live. Terrible. Yeah. So they're
they're they're doing it all right and then saying these things and I guess
correctly getting credit for it. So awesome. Also, I think Witcher 3 is the
highest rated game ever on Metacritic right now. Yeah. You sent me Hangouts
the other day. Yeah, that's bananas.
Doing good. Hell yeah. All right. Uh
Elon Musk reveals part two of the master
plan. The funny thing about the original master plan, and he says this in the um
in the part two master plan, is that Tesla's business model, for anyone who's
ever like doubted it or told them they were stupid or said that they're bad
people for making only cars that could
master, it was always on their site. and he's like, "I wrote this so that people
wouldn't criticize what we're doing. It didn't work. Oh well, here I go
again." Revealing the master plan. The thing is though, he he does say that and
he says it was like nearly useless or whatever. But he has had his like
cheering squad who did read it and he has been able to use it as a
counterargument and so it has served him in a way I think just not nearly as much
as he not as much as he hoped. Yeah. Every once in a while, you kind of go,
"Okay, I'm going to go out on a limb here and I'm gonna I'm gonna go full
transparency mode with my customers or my viewers or whatever else." And you
know what? Sometimes it works. I took a lot of internal flak over honest answers
episode two, how does LMG make money?
Where I had people telling me, look, like, why are we talking about this?
We're just opening up the doors for people to criticize us for making money.
something that people love criticizing us for. Yeah, I'm sorry that we're a
business. We're not Twitch streamers and I'm sorry that I'm sorry that we make money. I'm not sorry at all. And that
was the point of Honest Answers. Here are the ways we do it. I want you guys
to understand how we do it so you understand what motivates us, what
drives us, and what drives us is content
for you guys because ultimately we will make no money if we don't have you. So,
we actually do read a lot of the comments on our videos. I read probably
95% of the comments that are posted on one of our videos in the first day. I
claim that I don't, but I do. And you know what? So does Nick. And
so does Ivonne. And so do the editors. And so does John. So does Dennis. We all
care. We really do care. And we are not going to throw away our audience over,
you know, NVIDIA or Intel or Microsoft or any gigantic corporation that can
write us a check because a check is a one-time thing. An audience is something
that we can continue to engage with and interact with and that we can continue
to show brands, hey, we've got all these guys that we're talking to every day. If
you want to reach these guys, you got to talk to us and you got to do it regularly. So that's that was why I
went, "Okay, I'm going to go like full transparency mode here." Sometimes it
works. And honestly, that seemed to work really well. People seem to really get
what I was trying to say, and they understood the point of what I was
doing, and it didn't turn into a a negativity poo storm.
Okay, so sometimes it doesn't work. That was kind of where I was going. Yeah.
Anyway, here's the TLDDR of part two of the master plan. Create stunning solar
roofs with seamlessly integrated battery storage.
Expand the electrical electric vehicle product line to address all major
segments, including semi-truckss and other trucks. And I wish there was a
minivan cuz I just bought a gas minivan. Um, develop a self-driving capability
that is 10 times safer than manual via
massive fleet learning. Enable your car
to make money for you when you aren't using it through ride sharing programs.
and probably they have other creative ideas. So once it's able to automatically drive, not only will you
be able to summon it, but you'll be able to go like, "Hey little buddy car thing,
I'm at work. Go just like drive people around and make me money." Yep. Go back
to my house where I'm not paying for electricity because my roof is covered in solar power, solar cells. And uh then
when you're done with that, go and uh go and pick up some dudes or recharge at a
Tesla station because that's also free. Yep. Yeah. Well, it won't it might not
be able to do that. Oh, I guess it probably could do that automatically. Yeah.
Oh man, pretty excited. The car will probably be able to talk to the Tesla
station. The car will park exactly where it needs to and then it'll just rip.
Wonderful. All right, so this is a phone
that I was actually planning to review and then I ended up sending back uh when
I realized that I that the $99 price
point is a little bit deceptive. I want to say one quick thing before we keep
going forward. Yes, I'm sure there's people I haven't looked at at all, but
I'm sure there's people in the Twitch chat going like if it goes and picks up
people by itself, they're just going to like trash the car and that's possible.
It's probably going to be a uh Uber
style app thing that you have to use and your credit card will be attached to it
and they'll have IDs attached to it and if you screw up the car, they'll just
wreck you, right? So, yeah, it's
probably fine. I mean, probably stuff
will happen. Yes, definitely stuff will
happen. Yeah, but for the most part,
maybe it'll be okay. Yeah. Um, and I mean, you could I'm sure that they're
going to I'm sure they're going to make it kind of smarter than we're thinking,
you know, like you could probably have like a trusted list of people that you're willing to share your car with
even. Oh, if that would be like family and friends rides. Like you could have
this acting like a text. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You could you could
decide what level of sharing you want to do and you and you could treat it like a
social network. So you could say friends of friends are okay. Yeah. So if you
need to borrow your buddy's truck and he has a Tesla truck and you have a Tesla
car, you can like send your car off to him for the day. Borrow his truck for
the day and then switch back later on. That's cool. You don't even have to
worry about your buddy crashing your truck. He doesn't know how to drive it
because the Tesla thing is going to drive it for it. Yep. So, like there's
there's all kinds of cool stuff and like they're going have to make Tesla trailers. Like, oh man, that's treating
it like a social network. I like that. That's smart. Like that would be so
cool. Anyway, back to the ZTE Zmax Pro.
It is a $99 phone, which absolutely blew
me away cuz it has a 1080p IPS display. It has um a Qualcomm processor. So, it's
not it's not a Snapdragon 820, let's be realistic, but it is Qualcomm. It's not
MediaTek. Um, it's got 32 gigs of storage, 2 gigs of RAM, uh, 3,400
milliamp battery. Um, like it's pretty
freaking impressive. 6-inch display. It is missing a couple things. It does not
have dualband Wi-Fi, 2.4 GHz only. It
does not have NFC. There was one other thing that really irked me. Um, and so I
was going to review the crap out of this. I was like, "Oh my goodness, I've got this in my hand. I'm like ready."
And then I realized Metro PCS. Like, I couldn't put my SIM in. It wasn't
unlocked. And they wouldn't even ZTE wasn't able to unlock it for me because
you have to have it active on a Metro PCS plan for 90 days in order to get the
$100 rebate.
Now, I'm so excited for Tesla trucks.
Um, at the prepaid. Okay. Yeah. And it
will remain at $99. This is not just an intro promo. So, okay, very impressive
phone. If you are looking for like a prepaid phone carrier and you just need
like a cheap device and then you you want to like port it over to a different
carrier later, have a look at which bands it supports. Double check. Make
sure it supports the bands of the carrier of your choice. But I would highly recommend it based on the price.
At 99 bucks, it like felt good. I didn't
test out the camera much, so I wouldn't expect it to be anything special, but it
blew me away in terms of the rest of the functionality at 99 bucks with uh NFC
being a bit of a bummer and 5 GHz Wi-Fi being like a pretty big
bummer. I had the phone actually shipped it back to them today because I was
like, "Look, I'm not reviewing this. I'm sorry." I thought it was 99 unlocked.
That's why I was like so excited. Um now I'm just like a little bit excited. So,
I'll cover it on WAN Show and I will hold up the phone, but I can't because
Jake's too efficient.
Way to go, Jake. Way to go, Jake. You jerk.
Um, I think that's pretty much all that I Oh, actually, no. I really want to I
want to do this. Techchnica.co.uk. Wearable maker Fitbit
must face lawsuit over sleep tracking claims.
They are just getting wrecked. I mean,
let's talk about fitness trackers for a minute here. I know Luke has a piece
planned where he's going to be comparing a bunch of different I don't think I want to say anything. Should I say
anything about it yet? No, because I don't know anything. Okay. And if you
don't weigh in, then you don't have to like hold anything back and I can just
say whatever and you can just sit there poker face and we won't know how true or
untrue any of it is. But basically my experience with fitness trackers is that
they spit out meaningless numbers and due to battery life constraints um are
not able to actually perform the functions that they claim to perform.
Things like sleep tracking for a device that I have to take off even once or
twice a week to charge at night is just
stupid because it's not actually getting the whole picture. And I haven't even
looked at any of my notes on this yet. So, class action laws lawsuit accusing
Fitbit of misrepresenting the ability for it to track sleep and okay and it
can move forward says a federal judge. Uh, San Francisco the San Francisco
federal lawsuit claims Fitbit materially misrepresented their packaging of their
flex product to track users hours, slept times woken up, and sleep quality. The
suit alleges false advertising, unfair trade practices, fraud, and other
claims. Yeah, it could still be dismissed, but
um I mean there at some point, you know, fitness tracker wearers, wearable makers
who for the most part, as far as I can tell, are just kind of not doing enough
R&D on all of this stuff. Um we're going
to get taken to task and it looks like it's happening now. I'm I'm just going
to what I'll say for now is that I think
you're pretty close.
End of an era. Original article from CDV
News. Japan to manufacture the last ever
VCR this summer. So if you want a VCR
brand new, now is the time to get it. Wonder who's going to get the last
manufactured VCR ever. Funi Electric Company is the last remaining Japanese
manufacturer of VCR devices. Uh they've sold under various names like Sano in
North America and they've been making VHS recorders since 1983.
They reported sales of 750,000 video recorders worldwide in
2015. And uh this is pretty much it.
There was actually a pretty good summary of you know what VHS was for those of
you who are fairly young and don't really remember it. Um but going back
going back in time, Philips and Sony presented their first realtore video
tape recorders in the 1960s and the first home devices followed in the 1970s
and were actually showcased at CES. Several formats sprung up over the years
to compete in the consumer market. Sony's Betamax and the widely adopted
VHS developed by JVC. It launched officially in 1976 with the first
compatible recorders released in Japan before rolling out worldwide. VHS
cassettes could record between 30 minutes and 5 hours of video footage.
And over time, VCR recorders were even capable of doubling this capacity,
recording up to 10 hours on a single cassette. Although considered better
quality, Betamax never managed to rival the VHS format. And uh actually at the
end of 2015, Sony announced it would stop selling Betamax cassettes
commercially this year as well. It's
over an end of an era. And actually that leads us into yet another topic that we
really have to cover. An era that just won't end. The WRT 54GL. How many have
you owned? How many have I owned? I have never owned one. Or bought for someone
else. I bought one. Okay, that's it. I
bought one for someone else and that's that's it.
Um, in terms of recommending at a store that I worked at, my number is I don't
even know. If we want to talk about that, mine's a lot higher. Yeah,
probably. That's true. Yeah. Um, but ludicrous amounts. And I've bought for
myself or like friends and family. I think four.
So, it was released in 2005, which when
we talk about in terms of technology products is ridiculous. Yes. Um, it's a
54 megabit per second router. It's wireless G. I mean, it's not even dual
band. Like, why do people still want this? Well, the open source firmware,
the reliability make it attractive. You
can buy a new router for less money. Get the benefit of modern standards,
expansion into the 5 GHz band, and data rates more than 20 times higher. So, the
54GL costs around 43 bucks US on Amazon. But despite this, people are buying it
in large enough numbers that Lynxis continues to earn millions of dollars
per year with it. This is a great quote.
Lynxis global product manager Vince Lass uh Vince Leuka, excuse me, told ours,
"To be honest, it somewhat baffles my
mind, but we'll keep building it because people keep buying
it." Wonderful.
All right, so I think that pretty much wraps it up. Thank you very much for
tuning in to the WAN Show this week. I'm sorry it was late. I think based on how
smoothly the stream has gone since we started it and got the audio fixed that
I'm basically not going to touch anything and hopefully we will be good
to go next week. That strategy has definitely worked for us in the past and
it has also not worked for us at times in the past ever. Ever. So that was my
point. Thank you for watching and we will see you again next week. Same bat
time, same bat channel. Bye.
There's no intro. Carrying a couch.
Lionus drops the couch and laughs. I keep
going. I laugh. There's not that big of a delay between
you laughing and dropping the couch. Yeah, I think it's funny immediately. I
think we're sitting on a couch together. We move a little bit on the couch cuz oh
my god, we can't make graphics apparently.