And I think we're live. So, uh,
maybe, possibly, hopefully. Yeah, maybe, possibly, hopefully. We
certainly, we certainly think so. I will jump into the Twitch chat, so I
will let us know soon. All right. So, welcome to the WAN Show, guys. The weekly stream that happens
every week, come hell or high water, no
matter what. even if we have already been streaming for almost a continuous
24 hours prior to the show,
which is what's been going on. So, I think uh we we'd best open with a brief
introduction or a brief explanation of what the heck is going on and where we
actually are. For those of you who don't know, we have been live streaming
NVIDIA's Mod 24 event.
Mod 24, which was a 24hour
celebration of PC modding and PC gaming. I know for a fact NVIDIA invested a lot
of money into Oh, hold on.
Oh, you've got to be kidding me. The dashboard should not have ads. All
right, maybe Amazon will get that fixed. All right, so we've been down here for
NVIDIA's Mod 24, a 24-hour celebration
of PC gaming and PC modding. They invested a lot of money into the event,
and they asked us to uh to come down and
host the PC case modding competition. Uh
there were a lot of really famous PC case modders, including Darth Beas,
someone that I've known for like eight years, talking to him on forums. I think
this is the first time we've ever actually met in person, which was really
cool. Funnily enough, uh his rig isn't
behind us, but we do have the winning rig behind us, which was I I think the
story that went along with it was really cool, was really really special. Had to do
with their their favorite land, one of their favorite NVIDIA employees who who
used to come down to that land. And uh people are saying I look exhausted,
guys. I wonder why. I wonder why. I have hardly slept in the
last few days here, but uh don't don't
worry, we are going to make it through the show in spite of the fact that neither Luke nor I has actually really
looked at the uh the stream document yet. No clue what's going on.
So, we're going to pick some highlighted topics for this week. First up is of
course the launch of the GTX 980 and GTX
970. That is one of the reasons that we
are down here in California right now.
And we have a video up for the 980. And I think we're going to be getting a
video up hopefully next week. Yeah, next week. We're going to hit the 970.
And I don't know if this is official or not, but I kind of leaked it a little bit during the 24th stream that we might
be doing some SLI testing. Oh, we will definitely be doing some SLI
testing. So, uh, next big thing that happened this week, Microsoft officially
acquires Mojang. So, for those of you who don't know, Mojang is the maker of
the infamous Minecraft.
So, what Microsoft plans to do with Minecraft, I think people either don't
know or don't want to know or somewhere in between.
Yep. And then there is, let's see,
there was something really interesting somewhere.
Oh, no. All right. Apple has updated their
security on the iPhone on iOS to so such
that if your phone is locked even they
cannot access your data which I guess is their way of absolving themselves of any
responsibility to report any of their users data to the government in such a
situation as that would be requested of them. So I got to give them
massive massive kudos for that. Um, with
that said, the release of iOS 8 doesn't seem to have created a whole ton of
fanfare amidst the community. So, it seems to be a lot of under the hood
improvements without a ton of, you know, huge graphical changes like we saw in
iOS 7. So, why don't we call that our main topics, roll the intro, and I
finally found it. That's cool. We'll talk about and get this show on the road.
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So we have only got let's see 75 minutes
of battery. So, we're going to have to kind of fly through our topics today and
uh and do our best to to cover them as well as we can, especially given we have
no idea what we're talking about. So, for GTX 980, which is actually our
first topic, you can check out our YouTube video so we can fly past this one pretty quick. And also the GTX 970
launch, we'll be having a video coming next week, so I don't think we need to talk a ton about these individually.
Well, they are kind of important. They are kind of important. That is true. Should we talk about them?
Yeah, I I think I think it might not be might not be a terrible idea. So, in our
performance testing in the YouTube video, we found that uh 980 and 780 Ti
go pretty toe-to-toe in a lot of different situations, but then 980
crushes 780 Ti in uh power efficiency.
Yeah. So, the to be clear, guys, when you look at any other review on the web,
you're going to find you're going to find 980 pretty much dominating
everything else, but the key difference is that we overclock all of our cards as
far as we possibly can before running all of our benchmarks. So, what we found
is that while 980 is a beast overclocker, I think there was only one
game that wasn't running over 1500 MHz on the core, which is like
really, yeah, pretty impressive.
You serious, bro? Our 780 Ti is also a
bit of a beast and runs well over 1200 MHz, too. So given uh the number of CUDA
cores, given the 384-bit memory bus, that 780 Ti has a lot of raw horsepower
to throw at any kind of a of any kind of a rendering problem. So we ended up with
them kind of trading blows. The one that I'm actually really interested in, and
it's a kind of a funny story why we didn't end up with a GTX 970 in time for
us to do a review for launch. Um I was sitting in the briefing down in uh in
California, which is where I am now. So, here I was sitting in the briefing very
close to where I am right now and I got an email from Gigabyte. Yo, dog, here's
uh graphics card code name something. And I wasn't looking that closely at it
because I was in the middle of a presentation. Uh, do you want us to send you a sample for a review? And I kind of
went, yeah, sure. And I figured because NVIDIA was only seating GTX 980s, I
figured that Gigabyte was sending us a 970. Turns out that the one that arrived
from Gigabyte is a 980. So, we actually ended up with too many 980s and no 970s
at all. So, I asked Gigabyte about it. I said, "Hey, um, do you guys have a 970
that we can get our hands on? We haven't we haven't been able to do a review yet." And they said, "Oh, well, we
actually prioritized you to get a 980 because you're a key partner for us."
And I kind of went, "Oh, thank you." That didn't work out very well for
anyone, but thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate the
thought. You You guys are awesome. We love working with you and all that stuff. I just really wish we had a 970
so we could do a review of it.
So that's why that's not out this week, but that'll be out next week. Yeah, we'll get that up. But I'm really
interested in that one because the pricing is so aggressive, as low as 330
bucks in the US for a card that is effectively around 20% slower than the
GTX 980 because they cut down some of the functional units. And I I don't
actually know. You were at the event, but I'm assuming it also has autobalancing power rails.
No, no, no. Sorry. That is still a top tier. I
know that's still a top tier only feature. So 780 Ti, GTX 980 are the only
ones that have that autobalancing power feature that makes overclocking on these
cards um pretty flexible and pretty beastly.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. That'll be interesting because it'll be completely different
overclocking experience of the new platform. So, the OP here is good bites.
What I'm going to do this week is I'm just going to kind of spam Twitch chat
because I didn't think to bring Oh, you have got to be kidding me. I didn't
think to bring two Oh, wait. What? Oh,
here we go. Here we go. I got this. I got this. I didn't think to bring two
capture devices here. So, we've just got the one for our camera. So, I can't
actually screen share with you guys. But, uh, what I'm going to do is I'm
going to spam chat with the links to the articles that we're talking about. So
the original poster after this let me manage the spam.
The original poster was good bites and basically Microsoft has revealed a fair
number of details about directx 11.3 and directx 12. Now we've got a lot of
information in the doc that hopefully Luke is reading right now so he can talk
about this a little bit. But in a nutshell, we actually had the DirectX
project lead presenting at the NVIDIA uh
press event last week. And in a nutshell, he basically said, "Okay,
well, well, look here. Here's what it is. DirectX1.3
is the features. So, it's got the new rendering features that are really
exciting and are going to potentially free up overhead on the GPUs, make it so
that they can more efficiently render things like um multiple transparent
objects. So, they showed off rasterizer ordered views.
Yeah, rasterizer ordered views. Thank you. ly he showed off a few different
things that DirectX 11.3 can do and then
explained that DirectX12 is basically going to have those features except with
all that CPU performance optimization that we've been hearing about uh ever
since AMD first started talking about Mantle and how it was going to allow
your CPU to your multi-core CPU to spread out workloads much more
effectively. Now, the funny thing about DirectX12
is that not only have they made it so that they're going to be able to split
the workload across CPUs, but in the slides that he showed us, uh, something
really interesting that we noticed is CPU usage overall also plummets. So,
while the theory that uh like the the theory that I've had up until up until
he gave us that presentation was that all of a sudden we're going to have
Yeah. We're going to have a justification for for you know GTX 5960X
just for straight gaming and games are going to be able to leverage that.
I kind of went, well, hold on a second. GTX 5960X. Did I say that? Core i7 5960X. Thank
you. So, I it's just running one game. And I was like, "Okay, yeah, maybe we'll
be able to use all eight of these cores and all 16 of these threads." But then I
kind of realized, well, hold on a second. If CPU utilization is going down
this much, we might just not need the
cores or the clock speed. It'll be really interesting to see what happens
to what we need in terms of CPU power for gaming. I mean, what I'd really like
to see happen is I'd like to see game developers use the CPU horsepower that
we have anyway. AI doing stuff like that,
AI destructible environments. Um, I don't know how CPU intensive it is, but
NVIDIA's new global illumination feature. I would love to see some of
that offloaded to the CPU so that we can get truly much more dynamic visually
games um in the next couple of years here. It might take us a little bit to
see some of these implementations because there's a few warnings. It says
it's very powerful, but it's difficult to master and quote unquote dangerous
and inexperienced in the hands of inexperienced programmers. They're
saying that the development model is that a few code gurus will make stuff
like engines and platforms that other people can build on top of and outside
of that they don't really expect too many people to touch it because it will
be a very very complicated thing to work with. All right. So, our next uh our
next topic is engineers made a radio the
size of an ant that doesn't require a battery. This was originally posted by
ETRJ on the lineus techtips forum and the
original article is from the verge.com. So, engineering professors from Stanford
and the University of California, Berkeley. I don't know I don't know how
that sentence was supposed to be structured. So anyway, um created the a
radio the size of an ant, no battery. It's actually powered by harvesting
radio signals and doesn't require any external power. So the goal is to use
these chips to facilitate the internet of things. So for those of you who
aren't familiar with the term internet of things, it it refers to the concept
that everything will be connected. So,
not just your smartwatch, not just your smartphone, but even something as simple
as your headphones and and high quality
headphones, not headphones where having connectivity in them is just this janky,
cludgy uh gimmicky type of feature. Just
everything will have connectivity because it will be so cheap to implement
and so easy to implement that even good products will will just have it. So
something as simple as, you know, your power adapter for your notebook could be
connected. There's no reason why it couldn't be. And that could feed into
your house and tell your house how much power it's consuming. And the house
could, you know, automatically you balance power. Who who knows? Like the
idea is just that once everything's connected, we're going to unlock a lot
of possibilities that we didn't have before. Things like door knobs, things
like your your car door. So just being able to carry your smartphone in your pocket and have everything in your life
be connected. So, um, obviously we're
not there yet. No, I mean, you look you just, you can look
at something like the Moto 360 as a great example of how
Yeah, this type of technology is not cheap or
power efficient enough yet for ubiquity.
Mind you, part of that problem is because they used like a I think it was a processor
from 2010. And you have to assume that they that they
did that for cost reasons. There's there's a lot of um there's actually a
lot of different reviews out there talking about how there there doesn't really seem to be much of a sensible
reason because there's actually cheaper chips that would have been better.
Yeah. I don't know. Maybe they got like a massive bulk order for of it for some
like ridiculously cheap price or something. I don't know. Even that
doesn't really make any sense cuz I mean the the release cadence for mobile
products tends to be about a year and so
I wouldn't expect Motorola to be refreshing the Moto 360 for probably
about a year. So it's not like you order a year's worth of CPUs ever. That
doesn't make any sense. I just it's it seems so silly. Like I
just I don't understand why they did that. And I was so excited to get it 360
and I'm so happy that I've taken to never pre-ordering things.
Yeah. Yeah. Because holy crap, don't want one anymore.
Um, so anyway, these uh these new chips that are powered by by harvesting radio
signals are only supposed to cost a few cents to produce. So that could make it
possible to integrate them in these types of commodity items, things like
things like light bulbs, things that are just all over your house. and uh and and
the kind of information they could pro provide could be pretty cool. I mean,
not just being able to tell you, okay, how much power the light bulb is
consuming, but allow you to turn it on and turn it off. Yeah, they can send and receive
information. Yeah. So, you could be like kitchen light bulb on. Yep.
Kind of. I mean, that kind of stuff exists right now, but the problem is that it's really
expensive. The app ecosystems are not that consistent.
Yeah. And it's it's just not quite it's not
quite there yet. Moving on, we have Microsoft acquiring Mojang. So, the guys that make Minecraft
for $2.5 billion.
It was officially announced on September 15th. I'm going to spam this in Switch
chat. Oh my goodness, that is a lot of
money. So, I mean,
and sorry, this is again posted on the forum by the same guy that posted the
last thread. If I can jump over there. ETRJ. ETRJ. There we go. So, a lot of the
community is is pretty is pretty upset
about, you know, feeling like they they got abandoned by Notch.
Um, at the same time, like,
but I get it. Yeah, he has his reasons. He said that
uh he decided he doesn't want the responsibility of owning a company of
such global significance. And you know what? He's kind of got a
point because you I think and it's not
it's not a matter of selling out when you've already made the money. Notch
doesn't have to work another day in his life, but he will.
Yeah. Because he's he's passionate. He wants to do something else. But when you're
when you're when you're running something of such significance that's of
importance to so many people, you end up trapped.
He became Minecraft. Yeah. instead of being himself, he was Minecraft at this
point in time. And so, you know, yes, he sold the money for what he could get. I mean, I don't
think that that's an unfair thing to do. And I don't I think it's unreasonable to
expect someone to I don't know what give the company away like like how do you
how do you get rid of a company without selling out? It's not even you're going
to run into a ton of legal difficulty trying to give away an asset that's
worth billions of dollars. Like that that is not okay. You legitimately can't
do that. So, if he wants out, if he doesn't want to do Minecraft for the
rest of his life, then
you know what? I guess it's it might be better to do it now than to wait even
longer and longer and longer. And I think I think that it's uh I I don't
know. I I'm excited to see what he's going to do next. Yeah. Yeah. Me, too. because other
things that I heard like this isn't necessarily in the doc and I haven't done enough research on this at all but
I've just kind of heard through the rumor mill that a lot of it was um being
frustrated too because he wants to work on all these other different things but
the second he does everyone's like why aren't you working on Minecraft
look how much money it's making you why are you working on Minecraft he's like I
don't care I want to work on these things that are more entertaining
when you when when you have that many millions of dollars like I I think some
people feel like they need more millions of dollars Um,
doesn't seem like one of those guys, but when you have that much money, a lot
of people are just going to kind of go, "Yeah, you know what? I'm set for life. This is fine." And and you know, the
funny thing the funny thing about it is even guys like I I saw I saw an
interesting um I saw an interesting quote from Donald Trump uh not that long
ago where he was talking about why why
he wheels and deals, why he tries to make more money. He's like, "Yeah, I
don't need money." Basically, I'm I'm driven and I and I I I I you know, I I I
love to deal, you know, I love to I love
to buy. I love to sell. I This is This is what I do. This is what gets me up in
the morning. And I kind of went, "Yeah, you know, I I I kind of I guess I kind
of get that." And you know, if Notch's passion is
making great games and ultimately it's not about the money, then that doesn't
mean he can't make a ton of money doing it. It just means that he's going to be
driven to do that thing. And if we put him in this box where it's like you have
to work on Minecraft because money, that's not going to make any sense. No.
In his head. No. I don't know. Interesting situation.
I mean, but I also I like I also get it because Minecraft was is so
communitydriven. It's all about community and, you know, feeling like
kind of fearless leader for a long time. Yeah. I mean, you've had this you've had
this advocate. You've had this face to put on Minecraft where unfortunately,
you know, he doesn't want his face on Minecraft anymore. The graphics ain't
that good. Maybe he wants a better face.
It's so boxy. I'm just kidding.
All right, we've got some pretty good news here. So, OP is Querty Warrior
released the DisplayPort 1.3 standard.
So, the maximum link bandwidth has been increased to 32.4 4 GB per second. So,
the reason we need higher link bandwidth, you guys, is not only higher
resolution displays, but higher refresh rate displays. Currently, with display
port 1.2, 4K is limited to 60 Hz. But there's no
real reason why, particularly a TN panel
couldn't run higher than 60 Hz. Why not?
Why not? Why put Why put everyone in a box? No, no, no. We want faster display
lengths so that we can start getting faster and faster refresh rates on these
higher resolution displays. So extremely excited to see that it's about a 50%
increase in maximum refresh rate or in maximum bandwidth versus DisplayPort
1.2A. It should be noted though that that's not going to translate directly
into 50% higher resolution or 50% higher
for frame rate because you're going to have more overhead built into that. Um
so there we go. Actually, that's the next point in the dock here. So, the combined link rate delivers 25.92 Gbit
per second of uncompressed video data.
So, that allows higher resolutions like the recently announced 5K 5120x
2880 and that's through one cable without compression. Extremely exciting.
I mean, you know what? As as as much as it's great that we're getting interfaces
that are going to be able to handle these resolutions without compression, Windows can't.
It is a m Yeah, Windows can't. And guys,
compression's not necessarily the scariest thing in the world. A little
bit of compression isn't going to kill us. And we are reaching the limits of
what copperbased interfaces are going to be able to do. I mean, that's that's one
of the reasons why HDMI and DisplayPort
have been so slow to continue increasing
the bandwidth because we're getting pretty close to what we're going to be
able to do without much more expensive
uh without much more expensive transmitters and receivers on either end
and or more expensive link materials. So, we're either going to get to the
point where we're legitimately going to need fancy cables
again. remake that video. Yeah, I know, right?
Damn it. Crap. Or we're just going to accept So, so the
processor is going to get more complex and less expensive, and we're just going
to accept that we're going to have to do some on-fly compression, on the-fly compression and decompression, and hope
that that doesn't add to the latency.
So, this is cool. You can drive two 4K Ultra HD monitors when using Vasa
coordinated video timing. uh continues to support VGA, DVI, and HDMI via cheapo
cheapo adapters. That's one of the things that I really like about Display
Port is that compared to HDMI, even HDMI 2.0, which the new GTX 980 supports and
can handle 4K at 60 Hz, DisplayPort adapts to other standards much more
easily, which is huge, huge thumbs up.
Although, I was pretty pleased to find out that HDMI 2.0 didn't end up
requiring a connector change. Yeah. Yeah. That was rumored for a long
time and it ended up not becoming a thing. Extremely pleased.
I think we had a rant about that on the W show actually quite a while back. But
yeah, I think we did. I mean, on the one hand, okay, but the flip side of that is I
sure wish HDMI had a locking connector. Yes.
So, I'm glad that we're retaining forwards and backwards compatibility for
so long. I mean, that really is admirable. But they could have even done like a a
sidemounted screw mount thing, though. There is
it could have been the same. There is a company that does kind of this ghetto locking HDMI connector. I
think they patented it though. Okay. And what it does is it is it clips into
just part of the housing that's not meant to be a lock, but it kind of cheats and clips in
there. Yeah. So, um, so there you go. Vasa
releases Displayport 1.3. Awesome. Moving down, we have Comcast telling
customers to Hold on, hold on. Display 1.3 enable support for future 8K displays. So,
that's something that we should probably mention. And uh that's Oh, oh, this is cool. Also
supports a single 4K monitor, 60 Hz, 24-bit color over two lanes while
offering another two lanes for alternative data types like super speed
USB data. Oh. So, so that's pretty cool. The DisplayPort is really coming into its own and
is going to I I think is just going to be the dominant display.
That's really interesting. I mean, look look at again back to GTX
980. How hard is NVIDIA banking on DisplayPort? Three DisplayPort
connectors on the back of the card. Pretty heavy duty, actually. Pretty heavy duty. I mean, G-Sync only
works over DisplayPort. This is an NVIDIA technology that they kind of went, "Okay, where's the industry
heading? We're going to bet on DisplayPort." And you know what? For that
matter, AMD has done the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. Uh earlier, I think.
Mhm. AMD was shipping cards with two DisplayPort connectors much earlier on
than NVIDIA was. So, yeah. I mean, when those two agree on
something, probably a good thing. Just putting that
out there. Yeah. So, Comcast has started telling customers to stop using uh tour
and they denied this. They've denied this to be clear. Uh did you post the
link in the chat? I have not yet, but I have it copy pasted. So, I got it. All right. So, this was posted in the
forum by and then there was one and there are a couple of of articles that
were used as references for this. So, so inquisitor.com and deep.web.com.
But there is there is a lot of information here and I'll let I'll let
you run through it. An agent named uh Jeremy I almost said
Jenny because I'm pretty tired, but an agent named Jeremy has allegedly called
tour to an illegal service and said that
uh tour is against their usage policies and apparently they've repeatedly asked
customers to tell the agent what sites the users were accessing through the
tour browser. One customer spoke to Jeremy then called back the next day and
spoke with an agent named Kelly. She reiterated that Comcast does not want
its customers using tour and she allegedly said that users who try to use
anonymity to cover themselves on the internet are usually doing things they
aren't so to speak that that aren't so to speak legal. Um we have the right to
terminate fine and or suspend your account at any time due to violating the
rules. You know to me fine should have to come
from some kind of legal entity.
I mean if you what what what's next? the grocery store is going to find me.
Like, are you kidding? Like, if they if if I uh actually I
guess a grocery store is a bad example because if I was walking around the grocery store putting things into my
coat so that people wouldn't know what I was buying, I I probably would get I I
probably would get fined. You wouldn't get fined, but you could get prosecuted.
I think they'd have to wait for you to leave the store with it, but they they
could have a plane close following you around. Totally different. That's legitimately
steal. Hold on. No, because what if I intended to pay for it? I just didn't want people
knowing what I was buying. But you left the store with it. No, no. Let's say I didn't leave the
store. Okay. Okay. So, let's say I Okay. So, hold on
a second. Okay. So, Okay. Maybe I wouldn't Okay. So, I wouldn't get fined. But let's let's
They could ask you about it. They could request you to leave the store
premises, but they can't arrest you. You haven't left the store yet.
What can they do? They can follow you around, but then that's their private
property, so that's allowed. Yeah. I I don't think there's an
equivalent to this. No. I love to hear from the Twitch chat, guys. Let us know.
Especially if there's like a loss prevention agent. This is great. Dion 7. Lol. Grocery
police. LOL. If there's a loss prevention agent
out there that actually knows the like shoving stuff. Yeah.
We We'd love to hear about that because I don't What's up like Okay, so what's the
equivalent? Like my mom does this. I know a lot of people that do this kind
of stuff where they're like go grab a drink from the fridge in a store and
just drink the whole thing before they're done leaving the store and then just buy it.
Yeah. I you know the funny thing about that is it's always made me really
uncomfortable. Even when I was a kid, I would I hate it.
I my no my aunt my aunt would often say
you know hey are you thirsty? You know here here get this and start drinking it
and I'd be like no I don't want to drink it till we leave. And she'd be like well
like what if my card doesn't work? We're shopping. We're not leaving. Such an awkward
I'm not even worried about that. Although I did have a really awkward
situation at Tim Hortons where I I forgot my wallet and my wife forgot her
wallet and we were in Vancouver and I
had already placed my order and I was like, "Oh crap, I forgot my wallet. Can
I run out to the car and grab my wife's?" So when I come back, she's got my order ready for me and I'm like, "Yo,
dog, I'm sorry. My wife doesn't have her wallet either. I have to go." I think I
made it up to them. I went and I borrowed some money from a relative who
lives in Vancouver. And then I went all the way back to that Tim Hortons even
though it was out of my way. I was like, I have cash now, you know, but I still
they probably had to throw at least some of it away. Sure they did. Like I feel terrible. Um anyway, sorry.
What were we talking about? Uh stealing stuff from stores, drinking
things before you leave, right? I just feel weird about it. I remember that.
I just Yeah, I I I don't do it. I know my I I
think my mom does a little bit. I know other people that I go shopping with have done it. And even with when I'm
with someone who's doing it, I feel super uncomfortable. I don't know why.
It's just I'm not really into that at all.
Um, they have to have you on video. Someone has to watch you put it in your pocket.
They can follow you and watch you, but you have not broken the law until you
attempt to leave the store without paying. Okay, so there you go. Perfectly
reasonable because you should be able to go around a shopping center without a basket or
shopping cart, right? I mean, they can ask you to leave
your bag at the front. Yeah. So, I usually And they can ask you to leave the store.
Yep. Yeah. It is their It is their right to do that. Yeah.
We have 5,000 live viewers right now who
are tuned into our stream, which is like super late, like two and a
half hours. Two hours late. Like janky janky quality.
Don't know anything about the topics in the middle. We have no we have no
lighting other than like the terrible fluorescent lighting in this boardroom.
And uh and you know what guys, thanks for showing up.
We love your support. We appreciate you guys. You guys are cool.
Speaking of things that aren't cool is Comcast has um has a past of being
against tour and is listed on tour's bad ISP project list thing.
All right. So, well, as if uh as if Comcast was not
listed on a good one. So, good ISP list. Come on. Anyways, I I
still had to point that out, but all right. Um, so this next topic is
from And Then There Was One as well. Original article is from Venturebe. So
the NSA is mapping the internet. I'm not sure if this is news, but uh
NSA stuff just like assume anything you could ever dream of that's
like bad and on the internet just be like, "Yeah, the NSA probably has
something to do with that." So the program is trying to create an interactive map of the global internet
in close to real time that would try to identify the devices through which data
flows such as routers. The program is supposed to help in computer attack and
exploit planning offering a battlefield map for cyber warfare. Targeted
companies that sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So targeted companies
include Deutsch Telecom, the owner of T-Mobile and uh the German ISP Net
Cologne. So pretty cool. going to say,
"You guys are just staying cool." This is interesting because Germany was
already pissed off. Yeah, I know, right? About tapping into uh what's her name's
phone. So, be pretty interesting. This
next one, literally know nothing about it. Are we going to do this one or are
we going to jump over it? Yeah. No. Uh yeah, let's let's let's go
ahead. So, Apple's Warrant Canary disappears uh suggesting new Patriot Act
demands. So this was originally posted by LOLS on the forum.
We don't have an actual link though. Yeah, it's okay. Okay. The original
article is from Gigome. So if you want to just maybe post that link in the in
the chat. So Apple's first transparency report on government activity in late
2013 included a footnote that stated, "Apple has never received an order under
section 215 of the USA Patriot Act. We would expect to challenge such an order
if served on us." Um, so writer and cyber activist Corey Doctoro uh
recognized that language as a warrant canary or a way of thwarting the secrecy
imposed by the Patriot Act. Companies and publishers have included these
canaries to signal to their users that so far they have not been subjected to a
given type of secret subpoena by law enforcement. When this language is
removed, it is likely that the situation has changed and the company has been
subject to such a request, but of course is being told that they can't say
anything about it. So having that canary in place protects them and their users
um as long as people are paying attention. So section 215 of the Patriot
Act permits the NSA to demand companies to hand over their business records in
secret. It is believed that it is the legal foundation of the Prism program.
So yeah,
not good. Not good. Mind you, this uh this comes
uh this comes at around the same time as Apple's um recent change to the way they
handle user data, which is awesome. Which is pretty awesome that basically
in a nutshell means that if your phone is locked, even Apple cannot get to it.
Um, so that is is pretty much their way of throwing up their hands and going,
"Well, okay, you served us a warrant for
something we legitimately can't access. So, peace, bro."
I really like that. That's really cool. And I actually know a lot of people that
are pretty heavy Android users that might legitimately switch just because
of that reason. It's It's a reason to switch.
Kind of a big deal. I'd like to see how Google responds to this. Yeah. Because I, you know, the way that
the way that Google is about data farming, they want all your data.
They want all your data. They want it all the time. And they want it all the time. I got to
feel like if if Google were to decide that they were going to leave your data
alone when your phone is locked would be
that would be very out of character for them. So,
I don't know. It might put them in a bit of an awkward position.
All right. So, this was originally posted on the forum by Ion Basa, the
world's first fully functional 3D printed car. This was bound to happen.
Yeah, you got to bet that there were any
number of people working on making this happen. Oh my god, you can download a car.
So, it was designed, printed, and driven
by Arizona based Local Motors. Printing
and assembly took just 44 hours. Hey, Local Motors. These are the guys
that make that uh trike thing that I'm hoping to get.
All right, that for the for review. Don't worry about it. Probably won't even happen.
But yeah, after 44 hours hours, the car was
drivable. It's named the Strat Eye, so Italian for layers, electric powered.
It's a two seat compact roadster. It there has a battery, a motor, wiring,
and suspension. These all came from a variety of sources, including Renaol's
Tweezy City Care. I don't know. Yeah, I'm clearly tired
and I apologize for any words that I'm slurring or or pronouncing incorrectly
because I'm just not processors. Yeah, GTX processors. Um, chassis and
body are printed from a carbon fiber reinforced plastic compound. It has only
40 parts to it in comparison to a normal car with 20,000 or more parts. This is
actually this ties into a conversation we had earlier today where we were
talking about how electric cars right now are very expensive, but once they
become more of a commodity item and and
less of a less of a curiosity, less high tech, I expect them to actually be much
cheaper. Not even necessarily that, but once battery production goes up because that
Gigafactory that Telus uh Telus Oh no,
I know, right? Uh, you have sullied the good name of Tesla
by calling them Telus. I feel like a horrible person. Okay,
you are a horrible person. A factory that Tesla is intending to uh
build in Nevada will actually produce more of that type of battery than all of
the other factories in the entire world combined right now.
Yeah. Yeah. Which is like ridiculous. So with battery production going up to
that extent, I'm expecting and and based just based on how simple
Yeah. an electric car is compared to an
internal combustion car. I mean, I I think I think gas powered vehicles are
going to look stupid to my kids by the
time they're old enough to be adults buying a car. It's it's going to be this
it's going to be this weird, you know, eccentric thing to do to own a fossil
fuel powered vehicle. I really do think so. I think that we're still going to
continue to see fossil fuels augment battery power. So, having a small, you
know, lawn mower, like rider mower class, uh, internal combustion engine in
there to charge the battery in an emergency or whatever else. I think we're going to continue to see that, but
expecting cars to just run on gas, I I I
don't know. Industrial vehicles potentially still, especially being down here actually is
pretty amazing. While we were coming to NVIDIA headquarters, I saw on the road
at least uh 10 different electric cars and like
not just Teslas because this area is known for Teslas, a whole wide range of
them. So that was actually really interesting to see. Um the 3D printed
car will cost anywhere between 18 and $30,000 though. So
right now the materials alone are probably what's driving up the cost.
just plain
incredibly expensive. You buy enough of that stuff to build a car, you're going
to be spending a lot of money. Now, you talk about carbon fiber reinforced
filament. Yeah. Um
and also, it's it's going to be such low volume at the beginning that you're not
going to be able to take advantage of. Local Motors is kind of a specialty kind
of shop, so it's not surprising at all. If they were producing a thousand times
as many of them, I think we would see prices drop pretty considerably.
And I'm sure if you work with them, it's going to be a very personalized experience as well.
This is kind of cool, too. Uh the cost might seem high at first, but many of
the parts can be reused when you decide to tra change cars or upgrade. So, uh
good point. Yeah, I'm guessing things like the motor could potentially be reused if you
decide to, you know, uh oh, okay, I want a single seater type vehicle. I don't
see any reason why you couldn't put it inside a different 3D printed vehicle.
Yeah. Or a very different angle. Whereas like if your battery is running kind of
crap, you can swap the battery out, keep using the chassis and the motor and all
that stuff. Or if the motor dies for some reason, you can keep using the battery and the chassis.
Mhm. And that's another thing to to that's that's really cool about the
simplicity of an electric vehicle is I think the scariness of of car mechanic
work is is going to go away to a great extent. I mean, Tesla showed off what?
They swap a battery in 90 seconds. 90 seconds. Like, and that's that like huge battery on the
bottom. Yeah. So, if they can do it in 90 seconds, I'm sure I can do it in an
hour. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Yeah. I think I can probably handle this.
I think you'd have to uh I think you could do it if you had a torque driver.
That's it. I think that's the only thing you really need. Wow. Because you have to be able to torque in
the screws to a very specific amount. And then I think
Yeah. But you can you can you can buy one of those for what, like 40 bucks at
Canadian Tire? Maybe it's not even that bad. I think that's all you actually need. You need to be able to jack up the
car and then a torque driver. I think that's all you need. Wow, that's outstanding.
Obviously not entirely sure, but as I don't think anyone has tried doing it
themselves, but anyways, as far as I know, that's all
you'll need. All right, so this was originally posted by Tech Fanatic on the forum. And uh
this this this is actually pretty funny. I haven't found out if this ever
happened. Yeah, cuz we weren't at a public event. Yeah, we weren't at the public event
down in uh down in LA, but um there was
an email sent out by AMD to their team red members ready to infiltrate game 24.
Um mentions the warm reception from enthusiasts about their recent AMD30
live webcast. Um mentioned that we're intrigued that another graphics product
company uh jumped on the bandwagon by announcing a similar event. They warmly
encouraged their fans to attend the event, proudly wearing their favorite
red t-shirt and uh encouraged their viewers to tweet pictures of themselves
wearing their colors at the events and
promised to send some love the way of their users. Um I haven't I haven't
actually been tuned into the internet enough to know if anything happened. So
honestly, anytime I was I was dual streaming our own stream to talk to the
chat. So, I haven't really seen the actual Game 24 stream in its entirety.
I know. I haven't even seen the intro videos for the modders whose builds we
were covering the creation of for the last 24 hours. So, um you know what
we've got to do? Uh before we end the show here, guys, we're going to do our
sponsors next, I think. Then we've got a few more topics. But before we end the
show, we're going to we're going to pick up the camera off the tripod because uh
I think we have the flexibility to do that here. There should be no reason we
can't move it. And we're gonna we're gonna come and we're gonna take a close look at these rigs because they are
absolutely beautiful. You guys are gonna you guys
are gonna love them. I am amazed at what these teams did in 24 hours.
How much uh battery life are we running at right now? Uh we are sitting at around 45 minutes.
Okay, cool. Yeah, we're we're we're cool. We're we're running we're running good. Just want to make sure.
Yeah, I don't have uh I don't have another I don't have an AC adapter for
the camera, so we we can we're very limited by battery life right
now. Yeah. Yeah. So, sponsor spots, you said.
Yeah. Yeah. Let's go ahead and uh do do you want to do you want to change over
to our to our sponsor spots? Actually, I've got a I've got a site for you to
head to. I want to do Squarespace first. So, guys, Squarespace
Hope we're back. Yeah. All right. Woo. We are back thankfully.
Are we still streaming? We're still streaming. Okay.
Oh, Squarespace. It's the fast, easy way to create your own beautiful website
that works. Where are we going? Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. I've got a I've
got a URL for you. You're freaking stressing me out here, man. Um, it's,
uh, forever.com.
F R A C H E. That spelling of fresh. So,
uh, Squarespace, guys, do we do I have the lower third up? You do. So squarespace.comlininus
is where to go if you want to give us credit for, you know, referring you to
Squarespace. Basically, if you've ever wanted to make your own website, Squarespace is a fantastic way to do it.
They've got great tools, including their logo creator, their website creator.
They make it easy to use. They also give you the ability to dig a little bit
deeper if you are more experienced or if you want to get something off the ground
now and then learn as you go and continue to develop your mobile site,
whether it's a blog or a store or just
uh a portfolio or really anything just anformational website that you want to
run. And what's really cool about Squarespace is uh what are we are we
still are we still working? That looks frozen. Yes, it's frozen because I'm screen
regioning. Whenever you're ready. Oh, you're screen regioning. Oh, cool. Okay, that's good. So, uh, one really
cool thing about what Squarespace does for the Linus Tech Tips WAN Show podcast
is every single month they sponsor us
without fail. They sponsor two episodes a month. They give us a lot of support.
So, guys, if you're if you know anyone who's looking for a website, they want
to make their own website, refer them to Squarespace. You won't regret it. They
won't regret it. So, there's all that good stuff. And what's even cooler than
that is if you decide to give Squarespace a try, they have a two-eek
trial. No commitment required. Twoe trial. You create your own website. If
you decide to do that, create your own website and tweet it to me with line of
Squarespace. We give away an entire year
of Squarespace hosted website for uh
once every single month. So, Forever
Fresh Fresh is our winner for this
month. So, let's go ahead and get that up on the screen. If Luke could go ahead
and uh I think we're having some trouble because the resolution of the desktop
was so crazy high. Oh, that makes sense.
Freaked out. We are streaming on a 3K notebook right
now. It's an Aoris X3.
So, um, yeah, we're not really sure how to
handle the screen region capturing right now at this moment. So, can you just
make the browser small and make a smaller screen? It I tried that. It doesn't seem to want
it. Um, this is what happens when we change all
the streaming gear. So, the point is, guys, go Squarespace, thank you forever
for uh for tweeting that to me with Linus Squarespace. you are the big
winner for this month. Cool thing and other cool thing about Squarespace is they have highly dynamic hosting plans.
They take care of all the hosting for you and as your business or your blog continues to grow. It can scale with you
and grow with you. You never have to worry about things not working and
people having a bad experience when they come to your website. So, uh are you
just doing a snipping tool of it? All right. Well, I'm going to move on to our
next sponsor spot in the meantime. Unless you're unless you're ready to
just kind of kind of go for gold here.
There we go. Phantom Glass is another sponsor that we actually we love these
guys. Oh yeah. These guys are one of those companies
where most of the time when someone reaches out to me out of the blue and
they go, "Hey, we have this like mobile accessory. It's like a screen protector
and we want you to review it." Did Did the lights just turn off? Oh, do you
want It's motion sensitive. Oh yeah. Uh
awesome. So we have this screen protector that we want you guys to review. I kind of look
at it and I go, "Oh, are you guys kidding? We we're not going to we're not
going to do an entire review video of a screen protector because one, it's a
screen protector and two, they're mostly garbage. But these guys reached out and
I kind of went, "Okay, you're Canadian, so
I'll give my Canadian bros a chance here. I'm going to I'm going to at least
read the email." And then I kind of made my way through the email. I went,
"That's actually smart." Because the whole idea behind Phantom Glass is that
you're using the same Gorilla Glass 3
glass that's already on your phone as a protective layer over top of your phone.
And so I kind of went, "Okay, send it to me and I may or may not review it. It's
going to depend on how much I like it." So they sent it to me and their claim
was that their nano coating, whatever nonsense that they call it, would allow
the screen to be applied bubble-free
every time. and allow it to be taken off and reapplied should the need arise. And
I kind of went BS. Okay.
Okay. Sure. And so the first time I was applying it
when I was doing my review video, I was like super careful and like, you know,
making my way down the screen, pressing across it, and I was like, "Okay, I got
this on. I got this on. Perfect. Cool." And then for the second one, they
actually sent me two of them. I just put it on. All the bubbles made their way
out. It actually made for a pretty compelling video. and uh Phantom Glass
reached out to us because of our review and you know how how well we were able
to we were able to capture on video how well the product worked and they were like hey we want to sponsor you guys we
want to work with you guys. So sometimes
these these random things start up like that. Anyway, the point is Phantom Glass
is a great product and all of a sudden we've went we've gone from they sent us
a random email and I kind of turned my nose up at them to now we consider them
a partner. We think it's a great product. Absolutely great product and
highly recommended. So visit store.fantom.glass
to learn more. We got to we got to jump back to the
Squarespace one. I want to give Forever Fras.
Yeah, we want to we want to give this website some props. I mean, the thing about Squarespace is that it's pretty
easy to make your site look great, but it still is a matter of, you know,
picking a good template and, you know, picking photos that look really nice.
You know, I wish we could navigate on it because some of the people who submit
these uh these these trial sites to us, they don't really put much work into it.
And this one actually you can navigate a fair bit. Sorry, man. So guys on the stream, you know, please
do please do check out the site and if you like it, then then maybe give
Squarespace a try. All I could really do was get that. So
yeah, I know, man. There we go. Okay. All right. SanDisk.
This is this is crazy. SanDisk announced
the world's biggest SD card at 512
gigabytes. Literally half the size of the largest
consumer grade full-size SSDs. And we're talking an SD card. It can write at
speeds of up to 90 megabytes per second and should be able to hold about 4 hours
of 4K footage or 24 hours of 1080p
footage depending on settings. This is according to geek.com. has an MSRP of
$800. Actually, not that unreasonable.
I know, but it's for an SD card. How many we have that die?
Okay. Okay. You know what though? Funny that you should mention that. We've
never had a SanDisk die. It's true. We've never had a SanDisk die. Uh we've
never had an A data die. So, you know, if I was and it's it's it's so funny
because SD cards are one of those very simple devices where brand loyalty, much
like hard drives, gets built just based on someone's personal experience. And
based on that, pretty extensive experience. We we do have a fair bit of experience.
Obviously, the overall pool is still very small. Still very small and not statistically
significant. Oh, but that doesn't change the fact that when you when you go through enough a
data or SanDisk SD cards and none of them die, you kind of go, "Okay, well,
maybe we'll use some more then." And it's working out. Yeah, it's doing
really well, actually. Ah, the Logitech G910.
I keep on getting me message messages about this and I have no idea what's
going on. This was posted by X-Tank Slayer and basically Logitech is working
on or well has announced um an RGP
mechanical gaming keyboard based on RORG
mechanical switches. So it is it is
funny to see the way the industry went
from consolidating to everyone just shipping clones of Cherry MX Switch
keyboards to everyone trying to differentiate again all of a sudden. So
Razer's going to their uh their Razer branded switches that are being
manufactured in China. Um Corsair is
still is still playing the uh the Cherry
MX trumpet pretty hardcore. In fact, they've started putting Cherry branding
right on their packaging. That partnership is alive and well. Logitech,
who to my knowledge has only done one mechanical gaming keyboard,
the G710 Plus. The G710 Plus has gone and released what
looks to be positioned as a higherend product with ROR G switches. Now,
so do you know where those are coming from? No, I know nothing.
I know absolutely nothing about ROR G switches. Obviously, I haven't been able to really spend a lot of time trying to
figure it out. Um because the most amount of information I've seen about
this is in this doc right now. Yeah. I've uh I've been a little busy
with my K70RGB, which has a 130 plus
page user manual, by the way. This this is like the not for noobs keyboard as
far as I can tell so far. Although I made my way through about the first 40
pages on the flight here, and most of it is pretty self-explanatory. So,
well, there's that once once you get to it, there's that like full light control panel thing
that's going to be complicated. Badass. Yeah. And that'll probably be complicated. So, uh, Logitech's going to
have their ARCs control SDK that's going to allow you to control your peripherals
from your phone screen, DPI, etc.
Uh, okay. And show system information. Going to have media controls for tablets
or smartphones. Uh, Logitech is sending us a G910.
Okay. So, I've already been in touch and we are we are going to definitely try it
out. And, uh, really interested to learn more about
the switches. See, I mean, they they're rating them for more clicks, which for
me, you know, going, "Okay, well, ours is 70 million keystrokes versus your 50
million keystrokes." It's all kind of especially when
mechanical switches, it's like, yeah, these
don't really break. Yeah. I mean, I think Cher's rating of
50 million is probably pretty conservative. Conservative. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't know. This sounds really cool. I
think you just skipped over it with your cursor, but bleep Bit Torrent,
I'm on that. Originally posted by Ray Fee on the forum, original articles from
theverge.com and Bit Torrent is determined to get rid of the stigma and
that's good because they don't deserve it. No. So, so tell us about tell us about
Bleep. I honestly know nothing about it. This
is the first time I've seen anything about it, but the second I read any
information about it. So, it's it's it's it's basically a chat client where it's
practically impossible quote unquote to gather metadata on who's talking. And it
will be available for Windows 7, 8, Mac, Android, iOS clients, basically
everything. The second I read that, which is basically all I really needed
to know, it's also in uh public alpha, by the way. I I'm pretty stoked. And I
might move a lot of things to this platform if it actually works really
well because not a fan of Skype.
Yeah, hate it. But it's the only thing that I could seem to be able to get
everyone on at the same time. And everyone has the same complaints about
it, which this might be able to solve, right? Which would be great. So, I hope they
have stuff like group chats, which would be very important for stuff that I do.
Um, and I I don't know. It would be really easy, really interesting to see
maybe if they have um voice chat as well. I know pretty much.
Let's keep an eye on it. I mean, we've seen how quickly Bit Torrent Sync is moving.
Oh my goodness. Holy cow. Bit Torrent Sync is changing really
fast. So, that's their that's their kind of I I don't want to call it a Dropbox
competitor cuz it's not, but it has some similar functionality to
cloud-based storage solutions like Dropbox except you control your own
cloud. And that's what that's what Bit Torrent is all about. Maintaining your
anonymity and your privacy and controlling your own data. And you got
to respect that as a as a company mission statement. Apparently from Comcast, you are illegal
and should get off their service. Damn. Well,
but speaking of illegal, uh, the Pirate Bay founder told he can expect to carry his
father's coffin while wearing handcuffs. This is this is pretty gross. Um there's
only 50 days left on his sentence and his brother Mattz has spoken out for uh
for apparently the first time the original article is from torrentfreak.com has spoken out for the
first time in his brother's favor saying you know I've deliberately said very
little partly because he can speak for himself. Um, but I feel like the the
justice system has forgotten about its job to support prisoners to ensure that
they don't return to prison. And even though uh their father has been
seriously ill for some time and was admitted to the hospital in the summer,
Peter has only been able to visit his father once and has been told he's
allowed to attend his father's funeral, but two guards will accompany him and he
will have to wear handcuffs. And um his
his brother basically is speaking out against this. Sorry, give us one moment.
Is speaking out against us, saying, "Well, the problem with this is that it
punishes not only him, but also me and my mother and my dead father and and our
family." Everyone that's going to be at the funeral and everyone who's going to be at the funeral. It doesn't feel fair.
The optics on that are going to be horrible. Yep.
Google sees his Nexus 5 production. This was posted by Top War Gamer on the
forum. Original article is from Slash Gear. This came from Canadian wireless
carrier Wind Mobile's customer support via Twitter. A customer asked why they
don't list the Nexus 5 on their device page and win said, "Well, because it's
no longer being made and we don't have any stock." Um, Samsung to build its own mobile GPU.
Uh, this is posted on fudzilla.com. I wonder if that'll be more more uh
suing from NVIDIA. Interesting. Samsung has managed to hire
ex NVIDIA, AMD, and Intel employees. Nothing has been announced yet. The
development has apparently been going on for at least two years.
All right, I think we're pretty much gonna have to call that in. One quick thing before we go, actually,
because I know quite a few of my friends are really excited about this, is that Twitch announces its Google Chcast.
Yes. Posted by Rafa on the forum, uh, the original sources blog. Twitch.tv.
This is exciting. Yeah. So, there's there's honestly not a
ton else to say, but it's sweet. Yeah. So, now you can you can you can
watch the WAN Show on your TV with your chcast. Yeah. Hey,
next week because this one's basically over. Um, so I do want to I do want to
pick up the camera there. I think uh I
think we're being kicked out because it's time for everyone to go to dinner and I'm pretty sure everyone's just kind
of somehow manipulate the tired in general. Uh yeah, sure. So, um you know what? Oh,
I don't have I don't have my lav mic, unfortunately. So, you know what? Here's
what I'm going to do. I'm just gonna Oh, I don't know if I can pop You know what?
I'm just going to carry this.
Okay. So,
this is the ghettoest ghettoest setup ever. But I'm going to I'm going to hold
this like this. And uh we want to show you guys we want to show you guys these
modded out rigs. I think the most Be careful not to press that middle button.
Yeah. All right. I think I'm still wrapped up somewhere.
Uh, what is this cable? I got no idea, man.
XLR. That's important. Uh oh, the XLR cable. Well, you don't
need to get that far, right? If you here if you put the laptop on the table, I
think you should be you should be long enough to uh to reach the rigs here.
So, uh,