WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.240 okay 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:10.000 it's when show time again or that is to say it was when show time about 20 00:00:08.080 --> 00:00:13.679 minutes about 20 minutes ago thank you for your patience um those of you who 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:17.199 are watching on youtube in a certain way not very meaningful to 00:00:15.360 --> 00:00:23.439 you we were on time today in some time zone we were on time 00:00:20.080 --> 00:00:24.800 it's five o'clock somewhere 00:00:23.439 --> 00:00:29.519 which is irrelevant because we don't start at five yeah wait yes we do oh 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:31.840 crap but not in that time zone no not my uh 00:00:32.239 --> 00:00:37.680 um can we blame uh daylight saving time uh 00:00:36.800 --> 00:00:42.160 oh yeah that was last week 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:45.440 yep so actually no one's gonna be watching this week anyway like i go look 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:49.840 at the viewership statistics probably everyone was like um 00:00:48.239 --> 00:00:53.440 everyone everywhere else in the world probably thinks that it doesn't start 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:56.640 for an hour it doesn't start for another hour yeah so no we're for we're 40 00:00:55.360 --> 00:01:01.520 minutes early whoa 00:00:58.559 --> 00:01:08.000 oh my goodness we are early for like most of the world that's fantastic 00:01:05.600 --> 00:01:12.000 we are so good at this yes like online content creators yeah um all right so 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:18.320 we've got a great show for you guys today yeah we specifically 00:01:15.520 --> 00:01:22.320 went out of our way to avoid talking about it last week 00:01:20.240 --> 00:01:26.960 and the reason was that honestly i just needed a little bit more 00:01:24.880 --> 00:01:31.680 time to figure out what the heck was going on here 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:34.240 the g-force partner program yeah on the 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:39.360 surface this looks like some pretty jank pretty scummy stuff 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:40.880 and um below the surface 00:01:39.360 --> 00:01:44.640 um well we'll talk about it later 00:01:43.520 --> 00:01:50.720 um but yeah i mean realistically if i was gonna say it's all good i would have 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:55.520 said that before yes um there was another 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:59.280 big news item this week security flaws 00:01:55.520 --> 00:02:00.399 found in AMD zen processors uh from cts 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:04.640 Labs wow that's been a drama and a half so i 00:02:02.960 --> 00:02:09.759 think that even technically started last week too but especially this one 00:02:07.360 --> 00:02:13.360 super muddy waters last week and it's a little bit a little bit more clear now 00:02:11.760 --> 00:02:17.520 like still kind of confusing did you ever play the game at the beach where 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:21.520 you would like you would like stomp and then you'd get like the like the kind of 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:25.360 godzilla looking cloud that comes out around your foot and you'd be like oh 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:27.440 that was fun stomp and then you would get to the point 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:31.040 where you couldn't really see the cloud anymore because it's because you just 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:36.160 mucked up everything so that was last week 00:02:33.519 --> 00:02:40.400 now we've left it for a few hours and like we can go sort of stomp around a 00:02:38.640 --> 00:02:44.480 bit again but it's not it's not clear either what else we got 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:48.000 okay um apparently another NVIDIA thing they're 00:02:46.239 --> 00:02:52.080 both just slamming it this week apparently they're going to announce rtx 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:56.640 or ray tracing technology which is pretty interesting 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:58.080 and another company's removing another 00:02:56.640 --> 00:03:01.120 headphone jack well it's the same headphone jack yeah 00:03:00.160 --> 00:03:07.800 that's fair well i guess it's a different headphone jack you know what well it's the same kind that's just 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:07.800 really interesting yeah 00:03:25.519 --> 00:03:30.319 this video brought to you by spectra 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:36.959 and fresh books 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:41.280 can you eat either of those things no that's a real bummer because i'm 00:03:38.640 --> 00:03:41.280 super hungry 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:50.480 i was like i thought i thought you were like spilling into a spot for the other 00:03:46.640 --> 00:03:52.480 guys no oh no okay no no not really i'm 00:03:50.480 --> 00:03:57.040 sure you could have these oh i'm not going to eat reaper jerky 00:03:54.239 --> 00:04:01.280 savage jerky's not sponsoring like they're right there yeah they're 00:03:59.200 --> 00:04:05.920 right there and i'd feel better well first i'd feel worse 00:04:03.760 --> 00:04:09.120 then i'd feel better and then i feel much worse 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:15.599 all right why don't we jump into the news um this is going to be like not 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:19.919 very many topics but a very long time yeah i'm not ready for the GeForce partner 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:24.639 program are we jumping to that not yet yeah yeah let's talk about let's talk 00:04:21.840 --> 00:04:28.800 about something kind of trivial wow you and i are gonna have to play uh 00:04:26.960 --> 00:04:31.680 what's going on we're gonna have to play share the power adapter over the next 00:04:30.320 --> 00:04:36.960 little bit here because i've only gotten ten percent but that's okay i'm gonna oh i'm on 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:41.199 battery saver already well okay then i'm gonna turn down my screen brightness 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:49.120 a bit okay sony removed the headphone jack from the 00:04:43.919 --> 00:04:51.360 xperia xz2 and xz2 compact uh they 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:54.840 outlined the details of why they did this in their blog this was originally 00:04:53.280 --> 00:05:00.000 posted on the forum by die hard live uh would you what do 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:02.639 you mind doing die hard to live die hard to live yeah i can do a straw pool heck 00:05:01.520 --> 00:05:07.680 yeah do you even consider 00:05:05.280 --> 00:05:15.600 sony phones when buying a phone that is a fantastic straw poll 00:05:11.280 --> 00:05:18.080 would you consider a sony phone now yeah 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:20.880 here in north america sony's market share is like 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:26.479 this is one of the reasons why i want to do this poll though because we don't 00:05:24.960 --> 00:05:30.720 necessarily have just a north american audience exactly it'll be a little 00:05:28.400 --> 00:05:35.120 skewed because we're live right now yeah if this was the if we were able to 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:38.479 get these results from the youtube audience i think it would be different 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:43.120 than what it's going to be now someday when we're streaming on Floatplane 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:46.479 and that stream we can then go we could have like perpetual pulling that like 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:51.600 sits right under the video and that would be super cool that would totally work um i mean yeah it's all sort of 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:55.440 theoretical at this point because Floatplane is not 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:58.240 particularly fully featured at the moment 00:05:56.639 --> 00:06:02.400 um last week i'm not trying to be a jerk or 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:07.600 anything last week hit a little deep that that comments fair though yeah 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:11.520 uh okay so i've gone ahead and i've dropped the straw poll in there but this 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:14.400 was originally posted on the forum by die hard to live 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:20.000 and they basically outlined the two reasons 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:24.560 for removing the headphone jack that subjectively um 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:28.479 are probably about the worst reasons that you could do anything 00:06:26.400 --> 00:06:32.400 and contribute to um in my opinion oh my god was that 00:06:30.880 --> 00:06:35.759 actually okay i hadn't read their two reasons before was that actually it or 00:06:34.400 --> 00:06:40.880 did we just like come up with that contribute to probably why i think 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:44.240 probably why the straw poll results will be what i think they will be 00:06:45.039 --> 00:06:51.919 so it's not good go ahead and pull up the results here would you consider a 00:06:49.440 --> 00:06:56.720 sony phone remember we didn't say would you buy a sony phone yeah we said would 00:06:54.720 --> 00:07:01.360 you even consider would you even think about it at all uh we've got 26 percent 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:07.759 of you saying yes 74 percent of you saying no and only 500 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:12.240 of you even bothering to vote which is some pretty low numbers for these when 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:17.199 show struggles which i'm going to put that category as a wow i really don't 00:07:14.479 --> 00:07:20.960 care and no one is even no one is even still voting like the results aren't 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:25.680 even rolling in anymore oh wait yes that yes they are oh oh and it died off 00:07:23.280 --> 00:07:29.520 pretty hard at 6 35. it died off pretty hard it's like still kind of going it's 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:34.720 not okay so here are the reasons that sony outlined 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:39.280 for making this decision and you got to remember the the strong opinion on this 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:42.160 would be a yes anyone thinking no like it's kind of effort for them to be like 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:45.120 yeah no so like there's probably a way higher 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:50.240 percentage of people that actually wouldn't consider but anyway reason number one 00:07:47.840 --> 00:07:55.280 it looks more sleek without it so by that logic a human would probably 00:07:52.560 --> 00:08:02.319 look more sleek without an anus but you probably shouldn't remove it 00:07:59.520 --> 00:08:02.319 reason number two 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:07.520 i thought you were gonna hold it together on that one but you couldn't no 00:08:06.479 --> 00:08:13.520 not quite reason number two 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:16.000 other companies are doing it oh 00:08:13.520 --> 00:08:20.479 so painful now in fairness is that actually what they 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:24.960 said in fairness to sony in fairness to sony hold on a second 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:27.680 um here okay look do you want me to read 00:08:26.479 --> 00:08:33.039 the whole thing this is part of the shift to our new 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:35.360 ambient flow design language in order to 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:39.760 create the beautiful seamless design our designers needed to remove the headphone 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:44.640 jack plus we were aware of the major market trend towards wireless headphones 00:08:41.839 --> 00:08:48.480 over wired headphones so yes they literally did they literally did 00:08:46.640 --> 00:08:53.360 say that um so okay 00:08:50.560 --> 00:08:57.040 in fairness to sony in defense of sony something that i'm not a hundred percent 00:08:55.120 --> 00:09:01.040 sure if they deserve right now um 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:05.120 no one cares about their phones anyways no that is not what i was going to say 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:08.320 be clear there i was also kidding in fairness to sony i never oh i never said 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:13.680 the announcement video live i was trying to figure out why so few people i used to like their phones until we had so 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:17.279 many of them just bend in half yeah uh well two i think 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:21.680 three burkles mine yours burkles did too yeah 00:09:20.160 --> 00:09:25.360 oh i didn't even know that yeah how do you manage to do that it was a compact 00:09:23.680 --> 00:09:29.519 oh the compacts have the same issue as just less likely it was just burkle 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:36.320 he's an action man um probably more action in his pants wow i meant like wow 00:09:34.640 --> 00:09:40.480 okay actually my defense of sony is actually worse than anything you've said 00:09:37.920 --> 00:09:43.760 in defensive in sony's defense the last time they tried to do something really 00:09:42.640 --> 00:09:48.080 innovative that was probably really expensive from 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:51.839 an r d perspective because remember sony was the one that made waterproof 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:54.800 mainstream that was cool that was very cool that's why i used to really like 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:58.240 their phone and then they still didn't manage to sell more phones because of it 00:09:56.399 --> 00:10:02.080 but that's a whole other issue the last time they tried to do something they 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:06.560 were the first to have a 4k display now creating a 4k mobile display you 00:10:04.560 --> 00:10:12.399 guys got to understand when you have a feature on your phone 00:10:08.560 --> 00:10:14.880 let's say oneplus uh launches a 2560 by 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:21.440 1080 mobile display oneplus did not go and get that freaking 00:10:18.560 --> 00:10:24.160 panel created they are a relatively small player 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:28.240 and when you're a relatively small player doing relatively small volume you 00:10:26.160 --> 00:10:35.040 don't get to walk up to samsung's display division or lg 00:10:30.839 --> 00:10:37.040 or uh auo or phillips or whoever it is 00:10:35.040 --> 00:10:42.880 you don't get to walk up and be like yo we need a custom sku it needs to have 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:44.480 this color gamut uh this uh response 00:10:42.880 --> 00:10:47.839 time it needs to be this size at this resolution they're gonna laugh you out 00:10:46.079 --> 00:10:52.240 of their office you get to do that when you're apple 00:10:50.160 --> 00:10:56.720 when you're samsung believe it or not apple's notch display was custom created 00:10:55.519 --> 00:11:00.800 just for them because until apple did it of course 00:10:59.040 --> 00:11:04.320 after apple does it which ties into sony's other reasons yeah of course 00:11:02.640 --> 00:11:10.880 other people want it but until apple did it nobody else was gonna want that okay 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:12.480 um so so sony would have had to actually 00:11:10.880 --> 00:11:18.560 create a 4k mobile display in that form factor 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:20.240 for that phone that quite honestly they 00:11:18.560 --> 00:11:23.279 probably didn't sell a ton of based on our straw poll results and also you can 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:27.360 just google it and just see like the people around you 00:11:25.760 --> 00:11:32.320 what phones they're using so they didn't yeah when's the last time you saw one so 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:34.880 so sony didn't probably get a great roi 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:38.000 on that particular you know breaking the mold kind of investment although even 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:41.519 then giving them credit for breaking the mold in that way is 00:11:39.760 --> 00:11:44.160 not entirely fair because they were just following an overall market trend they 00:11:43.040 --> 00:11:50.320 were just trying to get out ahead of it in a way that was totally meaningless and stupid yes and almost never even 00:11:48.160 --> 00:11:55.519 worked anyways the phone ran in default 1080p almost all the time and then you'd 00:11:53.040 --> 00:11:58.399 like view a picture that was in 4k and you'd have to wait a second and then it 00:11:57.040 --> 00:12:02.640 would just like and then change resolution it was really 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:05.680 weird it was very odd almost everything ran at 1080p 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:10.399 but anyways so i can see how they don't want to take 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:15.680 any risks because you have to move a lot of devices to 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:18.720 make up for any kind of r d investment 00:12:15.680 --> 00:12:19.760 beyond just even the basics 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:23.920 um but i'm just i'm disappointed i i was 00:12:21.839 --> 00:12:29.440 thrilled to see that samsung still had the headphone jack on the s9 and s9 plus 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:34.320 um i think that you know what yeah the mainstream is moving to wireless but 00:12:31.760 --> 00:12:38.480 samsung is going to sell some handsets just for that and i really hope that 00:12:35.760 --> 00:12:40.880 they do get rewarded for it yeah all right 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:45.519 what do we got for our next topic here 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:50.079 oh should we get into the invasion these are all big deep ones i just have such 00:12:48.160 --> 00:12:54.959 this thing if you want to go pretty light and easy no no let's just let's 00:12:52.959 --> 00:12:59.120 just get this out of the way okay so the g-force partner program this was 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:05.760 originally posted on the forum this is actually an 11-page topic over on our 00:13:01.760 --> 00:13:08.240 forum and it was posted by wm groom ak 00:13:05.760 --> 00:13:12.720 and this lady or gentleman whichever it is um okay let's go ahead and get screen 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:19.200 share going on here uh basically read an article over on 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:20.480 hard ocp from kyle bennett and 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:24.959 said this found all of this interesting 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:29.279 if his reporting checks out because 00:13:26.959 --> 00:13:34.560 basically and and this is sort of the problem 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:41.440 this came to light from AMD bringing some of the details of what's called the 00:13:36.800 --> 00:13:43.839 g-force partners program or gpp 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:49.120 to his attention and you gotta look at that's yeah you gotta look at no matter 00:13:46.160 --> 00:13:54.720 who it is like i i get that whoever you're a fanboy of whether it's 00:13:51.760 --> 00:14:01.279 AMD or Intel or NVIDIA i get that there's this like tribalism 00:13:58.959 --> 00:14:06.399 thing that's that's wired into us as human beings and 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:11.760 when someone else does it it's the worst and when we do it it's just us getting 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:14.320 back at them for being bad people 00:14:11.760 --> 00:14:19.199 but you got to understand that any time any any company brings something to your 00:14:16.880 --> 00:14:23.680 attention oh hey um have you noticed them doing this 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:28.480 there's an agenda at play there's room for spin almost every action is selfish 00:14:27.040 --> 00:14:33.440 whether it's helpful to other people or not there's some amount of element that is usually selfish which is okay in a 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:37.199 lot of cases but it's just something to be aware of yes it's you got to live your life sort 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:42.000 of thinking about that in everything that you do 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:47.199 so the basic summary is that the story 00:14:45.199 --> 00:14:51.839 began when several sites including heart ocp were alerted to the goings-on by a 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:56.800 uh by AMD in a blog post from march 1st NVIDIA 00:14:54.880 --> 00:15:00.240 outlined their new GeForce partner program which ostensibly 00:14:59.199 --> 00:15:07.279 helps consumers identify brands 00:15:03.760 --> 00:15:10.399 that deliver the g-force promise 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:13.279 of delivering the best pc gaming 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:18.079 platform bar none so let's go ahead and pull up NVIDIA's blog post 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:22.720 that NVIDIA is very good at this oops there we go 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:24.959 uh let's pull up NVIDIA's blog post that 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:28.720 NVIDIA is so good at this um sort of 00:15:26.800 --> 00:15:33.920 puts it in the shiniest possible terms what they're doing here 00:15:31.680 --> 00:15:37.600 this is the headline the GeForce partner program helps gamers know what they're 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:41.279 buying oh boy 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:45.279 i was having trouble figuring out what i was buying before i'm sure glad that i 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:50.160 know now like last stream we talked about how confusing Intel skus are yeah 00:15:47.839 --> 00:15:54.720 graphics card skews are not a huge problem on the NVIDIA side 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:57.839 yeah actually and even on the AMD side yeah it's pretty straightforward they're 00:15:56.079 --> 00:16:02.000 not that bad higher number is more better there was a little bit of confusingness for a section there but 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:05.920 it's kind of the first number is the generation and then beyond that higher 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:09.839 is more better i think it got a little bit confusing on 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:13.680 the AMD side when we had like fury and nano and actually no NVIDIA does have 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:17.839 some stupid bs going on right now where the three gig and the six gig version of 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:22.639 the 1060 are actually different cards yeah yeah uh okay that's fair so hold on 00:16:20.079 --> 00:16:27.279 a second well wait a minute is NVIDIA rescuing us from themselves 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:30.720 is that what's happening right now we also had that stuff where the titan xp 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:33.199 and the titan xp that that was okay that was really 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:39.920 annoying that was really so um especially when the whole community 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:44.560 nicknamed the first one the xp yeah and then they called their next one the xp 00:16:41.920 --> 00:16:50.240 okay okay so fine okay fine you know what then let's play let's play NVIDIA 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:54.800 advocate uh go wait let's play NVIDIA advocate and say they did need to do 00:16:52.079 --> 00:16:59.120 something about this confusing industry so let's have a look at what they said 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:04.160 the oh man wow this starts off horrible like right within the first two lines 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:08.400 the GPU and software of a gaming pc make all the difference in a gamer's 00:17:05.760 --> 00:17:12.160 experience and together with our add-in card and system partners we're dedicated 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:18.160 to building the best pc gaming platform bar none this is the GeForce promise 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:22.640 partner program is designed to ensure that gamers have full transparency into 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:27.039 the GPU platform and software they're being sold now i'm a 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:30.640 i'm a let you finish but do you ever read stuff that just makes 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:34.240 you like tired i'm doing it right now 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:39.120 because i'm sure where you were going with yeah 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:43.760 i'mma let you finish but there was no ambiguity here 00:17:41.679 --> 00:17:49.360 there there's already marketing incentives and in some cases 00:17:47.360 --> 00:17:56.559 like basically an ARM twisted behind the back like this 00:17:53.360 --> 00:17:59.120 where NVIDIA really has a lot of control 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:04.400 over the the badges that are put on for example a product box or in the case of 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:09.039 add-in cards even the overall design like you could take a picture from the 00:18:06.080 --> 00:18:14.480 side of an entire shelf of cards made by MSI ASUS Gigabyte evga 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:18.080 and all the NVIDIA ones would be basically the same yeah they're really 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:23.679 because NVIDIA has mandated and they have lots of levers they can pull to 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:27.280 control their partners but NVIDIA has mandated that they need to kind of look 00:18:25.120 --> 00:18:29.840 like this and the levers that they can pull include pricing 00:18:28.960 --> 00:18:33.440 um allocation of the hot parts that 00:18:32.080 --> 00:18:40.160 actually sell um partner support so things like providing 00:18:37.840 --> 00:18:45.840 engineering support for your custom boards um access early access to the 00:18:43.679 --> 00:18:49.120 parts so you can begin development ahead of other guys and if all this kind 00:18:47.520 --> 00:18:53.520 of stuff has existed forever and it's like totally kind of fine kind of kind 00:18:51.679 --> 00:18:58.000 of there's there's some issues in some realms but most of it is fairly standard 00:18:55.440 --> 00:19:01.679 practice okay fine is a relative term most of this is fairly standard practice 00:18:59.919 --> 00:19:06.720 for a lot of different industries yeah depending on how it's done so the thing 00:19:03.840 --> 00:19:09.760 is that we we get a lot of uh we we get a lot of sort of feedback from our 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:15.520 community that the perception is that we're sort of like friends of NVIDIA 00:19:13.679 --> 00:19:20.240 but the reality of it is we're not friends with anybody um we are a 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:24.640 business and we have business partnerships 00:19:21.600 --> 00:19:27.039 and from a product perspective we like 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:32.160 NVIDIA products just fine from a um sort of 00:19:29.679 --> 00:19:36.400 how we perceive their reputation within the industry 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:40.400 we have some misgivings ones that we have brought to light in the past 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:46.240 uh particularly actually i think probably the most recent example is the 1066 gig and three gig that's an 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:49.760 extremely recent example we didn't like the way they did that well i mean like 00:19:48.080 --> 00:19:52.880 we mentioned at this show but there's also the recent change to GeForce 00:19:51.760 --> 00:19:59.280 experience yes we've also mentioned that which was like we put them on blasts for that and 00:19:57.919 --> 00:20:04.480 i still don't install it and i still don't recommend it and while i am 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:11.120 not always at liberty to talk about especially the sources of the the the um 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:15.280 the frustration with NVIDIA that takes place behind the scenes 00:20:13.600 --> 00:20:19.120 there's a lot of it that we're aware of and there's a lot of ARM twisting and uh 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:25.440 you know it's you know think about it think NVIDIA is like the 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:31.600 partner that stands there posing for a picture with you 00:20:28.159 --> 00:20:32.840 and has their foot on your toe yeah 00:20:31.600 --> 00:20:37.919 being like smile properly man that's the perception that 00:20:35.919 --> 00:20:40.080 i get a lot of the time please come say hi 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:48.080 so let's continue reading about the g-force promise here 00:20:45.840 --> 00:20:53.520 this transparency into what you're buying is only possible when NVIDIA 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:55.039 brands and partner brands are consistent 00:20:53.520 --> 00:20:59.360 so the new program means that we'll be promoting our gpp partner brands across 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:04.080 the web on social media events and more so this sounds like oh NVIDIA's is doing 00:21:01.679 --> 00:21:07.919 great things for their partners gpp partners will also get early access 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:14.720 to our latest innovations and work closely with our engineering team to bring the newest technologies to gamers 00:21:11.760 --> 00:21:18.480 partners are signing up fast they see the benefit of keeping brands and 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:23.520 communication consistent and transparent does this not have like a um 00:21:21.120 --> 00:21:29.200 uh which which harry potter movie is it where uh uh umbridge takes over the 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:34.240 school as the the professor the the the the prim and proper yeah you know 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:37.280 lady who turns out to be like an absolute monster i don't know the name 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:42.159 of it but i think it's the second last one yeah i don't know i don't remember anyway it's like not really important 00:21:40.320 --> 00:21:47.120 yeah the point is does this not have like yeah kind of a rules for you know 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:52.320 proper behavior as students kind of vibe to it the program isn't exclusive partners 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:56.480 continue to have the ability to sell and promote products from anyone partners 00:21:54.640 --> 00:22:00.960 choose to sign up for the program and they can stop participating at any time 00:21:59.360 --> 00:22:04.480 there's no commitment to make any monetary payments 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:07.760 or product discounts for being part of the program 00:22:05.679 --> 00:22:11.840 gpp ensures our engineering and marketing efforts support brands 00:22:09.280 --> 00:22:15.360 consumers associate with g-force that transparency will give gamers the 00:22:13.520 --> 00:22:18.880 confidence needed to make their purchase whichever products they choose 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:29.440 now i don't often feel the need to read out an entire press release from a 00:22:27.360 --> 00:22:33.760 company because a lot of the time frankly i feel like companies should pay 00:22:31.360 --> 00:22:37.679 me to read their stupid press release like honestly press releases that's not 00:22:35.919 --> 00:22:41.600 journalism that's not object that's not objective that's advertising they 00:22:39.600 --> 00:22:46.720 literally pay someone to write it and then they pay like market wire to 00:22:43.840 --> 00:22:49.039 distribute it that that's what it is um 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:57.840 okay so on the surface this sounds like everything about this 00:22:54.960 --> 00:23:04.320 is voluntary and terrific but let's look at the state of the GPU market right now 00:23:01.360 --> 00:23:08.799 if you if you can get gpus you are making bank because of the whole 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:11.919 cryptocurrency mining thing and pent up demand from gamers who haven't been able 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:16.320 to get gpus because of the cryptocurrency mining thing 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:22.000 if you can't get gpus you are basically plum out of luck and 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:24.960 NVIDIA without doing anything 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:29.280 that could open them up to a lawsuit can plausibly say 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:32.240 we just didn't have enough for you you were on the list 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:36.400 sorry and if you're let's say someone like 00:23:34.320 --> 00:23:40.640 evga for example you have 00:23:37.679 --> 00:23:43.760 other businesses you sell motherboards you sell 00:23:42.080 --> 00:23:47.120 crazy ridiculously high wattage power supplies yeah you sell power supplies 00:23:45.360 --> 00:23:50.400 you sell cases even but let's be honest 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:53.520 when's the last time you saw an evga motherboard out in the wild 00:23:55.039 --> 00:24:01.520 so they sell they sell motherboards but do they sell a lot of them compared to 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:05.039 someone like an ASUS or a Gigabyte no not really and that isn't to say that 00:24:03.600 --> 00:24:12.240 they're bad boards that's just to say that they aren't as popular and that 00:24:07.120 --> 00:24:15.440 evga's business is very reliant on gpus 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:17.679 so if evga couldn't get 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:21.360 allocation of gpus to say that their business would suffer 00:24:19.520 --> 00:24:27.200 would be a gross understatement so NVIDIA's blog post outlining how 00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:31.039 this is all very voluntary it just ensures that they 00:24:29.360 --> 00:24:34.720 get the benefits of being part of the partner program 00:24:33.360 --> 00:24:38.559 it comes across a little bit disingenuous because 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:43.600 that's not what's going on here what's going on is that if you don't join the partner program 00:24:41.360 --> 00:24:47.200 you're not going to get allocation and your business is going to suffer and 00:24:45.520 --> 00:24:50.799 you're going to have to lay off real people with real families 00:24:49.679 --> 00:24:54.240 who won't have a job anymore and won't be 00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:57.919 able to support them and that's something that if i'm a company like 00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:01.039 evga that for the most part my experience 00:24:59.600 --> 00:25:05.840 with them has actually been very positive i would like to believe that they care 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:10.400 about um so you're pretty much joining the 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:12.640 GeForce partner program so 00:25:13.840 --> 00:25:22.480 let's go to the heart ocp article huge shout out to kyle for for doing what he 00:25:19.919 --> 00:25:26.400 was doing here so hard ocp began interviewing aibs and oems 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:31.919 i'm going to re-share this in twitch checks i showed it wow yeah go ahead hit twitch chat with that it's really 00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:36.720 important um so they began interviewing aibs and oems who communicated a few 00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:42.480 things one that the GeForce partner program 00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:44.080 has terms in it that are likely illegal 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:48.960 number two that the GeForce partner program is 00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:54.559 going to likely tremendously hurt consumer choice and number three that 00:25:51.760 --> 00:25:59.520 the GeForce partner program will disrupt business with companies 00:25:56.559 --> 00:26:07.120 that are currently doing business with AMD in particular AMD and Intel 00:26:04.080 --> 00:26:08.960 the other thing that he gleaned and we 00:26:07.120 --> 00:26:13.200 haven't been able to verify this because here's what you guys 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:17.520 got to understand i don't i've never seen the agreement 00:26:15.520 --> 00:26:21.600 and i know for a fact i will never see the agreement 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:26.960 it would shock me if anyone ever saw this agreement out in the public but 00:26:24.080 --> 00:26:31.600 what i know about agreements like this is that let's say for example that uh 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:37.039 uh um a gag order was done in an illegal 00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:40.799 fashion let's say i made you sign some kind of an agreement that says this is a 00:26:39.360 --> 00:26:45.279 very spicy agreement yeah spicy agreement okay if you talk about this 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:51.679 agreement i will kill you and you will authorize me to kill you oh okay 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:54.480 obviously illegal 00:26:51.679 --> 00:26:58.400 but let's say it wasn't murder let's say it was something slightly less black and 00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:02.400 white than that like i'll kill your company yeah like that 00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:08.480 which to a lot of people is kind of close 00:27:07.120 --> 00:27:12.480 yeah i mean people have committed suicide over their companies 00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:16.880 yeah so let's say that it was something like that 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:25.039 you could you could you could you could break the agreement at some point but 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:26.640 until you fight me in court and prove 00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:31.520 that depending on the way it's wording because expensive lawyers can do expensive 00:27:29.760 --> 00:27:37.200 lawyer things depending on the way it's worded the onus could be on you 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:40.960 to prove that you don't owe me whatever it was 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:46.960 so your business could effectively be destroyed in the years and after the 00:27:43.520 --> 00:27:49.279 money that it costs you to fight me 00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:53.440 so even though i have an illegal term and i have a potentially illegal 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:57.440 punishment for it you don't want to be the one who steps 00:27:54.880 --> 00:28:02.159 out of line because i can punish you in the meantime in ways that would destroy 00:27:59.919 --> 00:28:05.520 you to the point where it would never matter 00:28:03.360 --> 00:28:10.240 if what i did was illegal because you wouldn't even exist to take a payout 00:28:07.600 --> 00:28:15.279 anymore five years ten years down the road when you would be in a position to 00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:19.200 finally get your payout now that 00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:23.440 is a real possibility and i'm not saying that i know that that's what's happening 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:28.640 but what i do know is that nobody is coughing up this agreement and 00:28:25.760 --> 00:28:31.679 i do know that agreements like this do exist 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:35.039 okay so with all of that in mind 00:28:35.919 --> 00:28:42.480 further information that hart ocp is publishing 00:28:39.520 --> 00:28:46.080 alleges that the GeForce partner program and i think okay to to 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:50.000 i'm not disagreeing with anything that you're saying okay but to play a little 00:28:48.080 --> 00:28:55.440 bit both sides oh i know i know but to play a little bit of both sides yeah 00:28:51.760 --> 00:28:56.960 alleges is a pretty important word here 00:28:55.440 --> 00:29:02.640 like there's a lot of as well according to 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:07.679 kyle bennett's article on heart ocp and a lot of it makes sense 00:29:05.760 --> 00:29:14.640 and i'm explaining how it could make sense but it lines up pretty okay but like 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:19.840 okay yeah so thank you yeah are you at our legal department 00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:24.080 i was sort of at one point long time ago um but okay i don't want to talk about 00:29:21.840 --> 00:29:24.080 this 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.960 but like yeah i just want to make sure that's clear because while this might 00:29:29.679 --> 00:29:36.480 make sense and all that kind of stuff it's not technically 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:39.600 complete it's it's all alleges okay 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:42.320 so kyle's article further alleges that 00:29:39.600 --> 00:29:47.279 in order to have access to the GeForce partner program 00:29:44.080 --> 00:29:52.000 partners must have their own gaming 00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:54.240 brand aligned exclusively with g-force 00:29:52.000 --> 00:30:00.159 now think about that for a minute because that's been a huge trend over 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:02.320 the last 10 years or so i think rog 00:30:00.159 --> 00:30:06.000 just celebrated its 10-year anniversary with the rampage five 00:30:04.399 --> 00:30:11.760 extreme they had a 10-year anniversary edition of that port and rog was one of 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:14.000 the to ASUS credit this was ASUS doesn't 00:30:11.760 --> 00:30:18.480 always get marketing right but to ASUS's credit 00:30:15.919 --> 00:30:23.200 they built the rog brand when i called it a stupid idea way back in the day so 00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:26.880 kudos to them and uh the rest of the industry basically was playing follow 00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:32.320 the leader and that's yeah i would also say they they have nailed it a few times 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:36.720 ASUS's rog um 00:30:32.320 --> 00:30:39.120 gigabytes aorus um lenovo's legion 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:42.559 uh who else do we have dell's xps or alienware to a greater extent xps is 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:47.600 less gaming these days it used to be different engine has been having more of an issue getting its 00:30:45.919 --> 00:30:51.200 well they just launched that's fair like ces 15 months ago or something like that 00:30:49.679 --> 00:30:57.600 so give them some time but it also alleges that all of these brands 00:30:54.720 --> 00:31:00.240 will have to be exclusively aligned with g-force 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:09.600 so even though NVIDIA's blog post says partners continue to have the ability to 00:31:07.600 --> 00:31:15.440 sell and promote products from anyone the gpp documentation allegedly says 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:18.320 that those who do not participate will lose 00:31:16.399 --> 00:31:22.640 benefits like high effort engineering engagements early tech engagement launch 00:31:21.120 --> 00:31:26.720 partner status game bundling 00:31:24.320 --> 00:31:31.440 sales rebate programs i'll get back to that one social media and pr support 00:31:29.360 --> 00:31:34.799 marketing reports and marketing development funds so let's get back to 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:39.679 sales rebate programs and marketing development funds for a minute here 00:31:37.840 --> 00:31:43.840 the way the tech industry works and there's a reason for it because if you 00:31:41.679 --> 00:31:47.279 gave every mom and pop computer shop a one dollar discount they would take it 00:31:45.679 --> 00:31:51.600 straight to price and sell the product for cheaper which as a consumer you 00:31:49.360 --> 00:31:55.679 might go wow that's great but it isn't necessarily because we 00:31:53.600 --> 00:31:58.799 talked about this previously when Intel wasn't providing the support 00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:06.159 that we feel like they should on their previous generation chipsets um 00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:11.600 in terms of patching for spectre and meltdown but the problem with just charging the 00:32:09.120 --> 00:32:14.720 bear amount is that it doesn't give you the the 00:32:12.840 --> 00:32:19.440 business um war chest that you need to well to go to 00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:23.840 war in the event that you have to and it's one of those things where 00:32:22.159 --> 00:32:28.240 it kind of relies on a business to behave in a manner that is in good faith 00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:32.720 acting in the consumer's best interest but a business that is making a healthy 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:37.519 profit is in a better position to as an extreme example still exist 00:32:36.080 --> 00:32:42.080 a year later when you come back for warranty support you actually need the 00:32:40.159 --> 00:32:46.640 companies that you buy things from to make a profit 00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:48.880 yeah does that make sense okay so anyway 00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:52.000 the problem with the it industry is that it tends to be and it's kind of a 00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:56.880 cultural thing i'm not going to get any deeper into it than that but it tends to 00:32:54.000 --> 00:33:00.399 be a race to zero industry volume volume volume 00:32:58.320 --> 00:33:03.919 take down as much margin as you can so you can take the volume that your 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:07.039 competitor would have been doing force them under 00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:10.960 and then someday we'll raise the prices yeah and you do eventually see that like 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:14.640 the hard drive industry enjoyed a short period of great margins when basically 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:18.320 everyone was gone and then they were supplanted by the SSD industry in the 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:21.919 mainstream and to be clear hard drives are still doing fine in the cloud 00:33:19.919 --> 00:33:25.919 they're not going away or anything but that business is a b2b business which 00:33:24.320 --> 00:33:29.840 tends to be lower margins so there was like a there was like a golden hour 00:33:27.840 --> 00:33:33.760 there for the hard drive industry uh here do you need this yeah go for it 00:33:31.919 --> 00:33:38.720 um right so the way that the tech industry 00:33:35.760 --> 00:33:42.679 works is that the pricing is fixed you just say okay look 00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:49.200 a core i5 8600k that's 200 u.s 00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:53.840 and then the way that you actually provide promotions or the way that you 00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:58.080 make someone like formerly so when i worked at ncix the way that ncix was 00:33:56.399 --> 00:34:03.679 able to differentiate from mom and pop shops was not the sticker price it was 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:08.639 the back end support because every CPU we sold we got a couple percentage 00:34:06.159 --> 00:34:13.280 kickback at the end of a quarter and every CPU we sold well you know 00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:17.359 during black friday we might get five bucks or 10 bucks off now all of a 00:34:15.359 --> 00:34:21.200 sudden mom and pop in order to compete with us have to sell below cost 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:25.359 giving us an advantage that's the way that you actually stay 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:29.200 competitive and to be clear this isn't some kind of like subversive cloak and 00:34:27.200 --> 00:34:33.839 dagger nonsense because within sort of the the mainstream stores 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:37.040 that you shop at best buy new egg i mean okay some of these are kind of dated 00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:42.000 references tiger direct memory express canada computers um uh micro center 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:45.599 uh amazon the programs are basically across the 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:48.960 board pretty similar and whenever someone finds out that they get a god 00:34:47.520 --> 00:34:52.800 approach that someone else got a program that they didn't there's outrage and 00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:55.520 usually the brand ends up kind of doing something to make it up to you and then 00:34:54.240 --> 00:35:01.760 the other guy complains about that it's all negotiations it's business as usual 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:07.200 now the problem here is that with gpus in particular 00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:10.160 NVIDIA maintains a lot of control 00:35:07.200 --> 00:35:15.359 over the pricing at every level to the partners and to the end users through 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:18.800 tools like these kinds of rebates so they sell the chipset to the vendor 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:23.440 at some price x but then NVIDIA could 00:35:21.040 --> 00:35:27.440 decide a week later to go well you know what here's a sell-through rebate 00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:31.040 effectively lowering the price without actually lowering the sticker price 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:34.640 meaning that someone who has a multi-week in some cases lead time 00:35:33.359 --> 00:35:39.200 between acquiring chips and then turning them into boards 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:43.440 delivering them to retailers and eventually selling through them might 00:35:41.040 --> 00:35:47.599 effectively have a bunch of stock that's overpriced now and no real recourse for 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:52.240 getting rid of it and so it's at NVIDIA's discretion to support you to 00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:57.040 get rid of it which is a fairly direct way a fairly 00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:59.920 strong but indirect way to sort of choke 00:35:57.040 --> 00:36:03.920 out a company that's right so game bundling 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:07.280 mdf and sales rebate programs are basically like saying 00:36:05.839 --> 00:36:13.440 you'll never make money on graphics cards again if you were to remove all that stuff 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:17.040 yeah okay 00:36:15.040 --> 00:36:20.880 um i forget where we were going with this but partner brand aligned 00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:25.119 exclusively with NVIDIA partners have the ability to sell and promote products 00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:28.240 from anyone but the allegedly this behind-the-scenes 00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:32.160 documentation says they'll get all of this support cut and to be clear the 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:34.079 public documentation doesn't say any of that 00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:41.760 okay heart ocp has been told that if a company does not participate in gpp 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:46.079 they feel not by NVIDIA yeah as if NVIDIA would hold back allocation 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:49.839 of gpus from their inventories this has not been spelled out contractually but 00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:55.280 the feeling is that it's done on a wink and a nod 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:58.720 to be fair they said that the stuff we just 00:36:57.040 --> 00:37:04.079 mentioned losing all these different things was in the documentation this is 00:37:01.839 --> 00:37:09.680 a feeling yeah the allocation bit is a feeling and then the next part that 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:11.920 we're going to talk about is also a like 00:37:09.680 --> 00:37:16.800 feeling yeah so it was expressed to heart ocp that publishing that article 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:19.520 could damage heart ocps relationship with NVIDIA 00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:26.560 which well we've gotten to the end of it now i guess i guess we're in the same boat 00:37:23.520 --> 00:37:28.160 look at that but knowing uh and like 00:37:26.560 --> 00:37:32.640 okay to jump all the way back to the beginning of this conversation in terms 00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:36.320 of uh like there's always there's very extremely massively often 00:37:35.359 --> 00:37:41.599 i'm not going to say always because someone's going to call me on that in some weird way but there there's 00:37:39.520 --> 00:37:46.400 basically always a selfish reason for everything whether it's all 00:37:43.520 --> 00:37:49.760 this region is tiny or huge whatever um saying 00:37:47.359 --> 00:37:53.359 hey if you release this NVIDIA is going to be mad well 00:37:51.359 --> 00:37:56.480 saying that to heart ocp was probably pushing them to release it 00:37:55.680 --> 00:38:02.480 um because then again maybe not kyle's been in the industry a long time and he's 00:38:00.640 --> 00:38:06.079 deeply connected they may have actually had his best interest at heart 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:09.599 possibly but from articles that i've read from him before too 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:13.280 no issue but pushing that kind of stuff but let's go let's go let's let's take 00:38:11.359 --> 00:38:15.680 the helicopter up another thousand feet and let's go why were they talking to 00:38:14.720 --> 00:38:21.119 him at all yeah yeah seriously so so the particular 00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:24.800 warning might have been in kyle's best interest but the fact that they're 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:28.160 talking to him at all is probably in their own best interest and i'm sure 00:38:26.240 --> 00:38:32.720 they know that he likes juicy articles and also for the consumer's best 00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:36.240 interest potentially like because remember there there could be a selfish 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:39.200 kernel but that doesn't mean that it doesn't benefit a whole bunch of people 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:43.359 and that you couldn't don't know how much rationalize the benefit you're 00:38:41.040 --> 00:38:46.560 providing to yourself by saying well it also helps out all these other guys 00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:50.640 which is great in a lot of situations that's honestly mostly how charity works 00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:54.160 but yeah like you just don't know how much 00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:58.079 how much of this is helping other people how much of this is selling and for kyle 00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:02.640 to talk about how this article could damage the relationship with NVIDIA 00:39:00.720 --> 00:39:06.640 you can find a selfish colonel there too by saying that he's adding credibility 00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:10.400 to his own publication by saying you know what i'm willing to 00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:14.400 risk damaging my relationship with NVIDIA in order to bring you guys the 00:39:12.160 --> 00:39:19.200 facts and in this case this actually does look to me and i do i 00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:23.040 haven't seen the partner agreement and i won't admit to having talked to anyone 00:39:21.200 --> 00:39:27.680 about this behind the scenes but this looks to me like it actually 00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:33.040 does have the potential to damage a relationship with NVIDIA NVIDIA is 00:39:31.040 --> 00:39:37.680 um well it comes back to the portrait 00:39:35.520 --> 00:39:41.520 NVIDIA smiles a lot and they they talk about partnership a 00:39:39.680 --> 00:39:48.560 lot and what they mean is 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:52.800 they have expectations of their partners and if their partners don't meet them 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:55.800 well hmm 00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:05.200 that's my perception and a lot of people think that we're like super super chummy 00:40:02.560 --> 00:40:10.960 with NVIDIA but i've said before in the past and i'll say it again now 00:40:07.359 --> 00:40:13.599 we have done a grand total of three 00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:19.280 sponsored engagements with NVIDIA we did some uh pre-rolls way back when 00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:23.040 we first started and those were actually that was a complicated thing because 00:40:21.520 --> 00:40:27.680 probably none of you even remember them it was 10 spots and they were all for a 00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:31.760 particular evga graphics card but the funding was being passed through 00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:36.320 via mdf from NVIDIA 00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:37.119 so that one hardly even registers number 00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:42.960 two we went down to california and hosted 00:40:40.160 --> 00:40:48.960 mod 24 their modding event we were paid what i consider to be a very modest fee 00:40:46.560 --> 00:40:52.320 for that kind of an engagement yeah and the number three 00:40:50.560 --> 00:40:55.599 this was the first time they had actually done flat out a sponsored video 00:40:54.640 --> 00:41:01.599 with us ever they did something with us in q4 talking 00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:06.480 about how to game at 4k they were actually pretty easy to work with which 00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:10.400 was kind of refreshing um because we were able to talk about game consoles as 00:41:08.560 --> 00:41:14.079 well we kept it very objective and we told them up front we were like look 00:41:12.319 --> 00:41:17.280 we never actually work with you guys on sponsored stuff but there's this 00:41:15.680 --> 00:41:20.480 perception that we're in your pocket so you gotta understand we're gonna have to 00:41:19.200 --> 00:41:23.760 approach this very carefully yeah 00:41:22.240 --> 00:41:27.760 um and they were actually pretty cool about it but that's the extent of it we 00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:32.640 have worked far more extensively with AMD Intel ASUS 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:35.920 uh i think we've done more stuff with MSI 00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:40.319 i mean certainly more stuff with the regular partners like um like uh 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:43.680 squarespace uh zotac we haven't really done much big stuff with more than but 00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:47.119 we've done but we've done actually yeah we've done a fair bit with zotek yeah 00:41:45.520 --> 00:41:51.119 okay yeah yeah like most people 00:41:49.680 --> 00:41:55.119 so there you go so 00:41:52.720 --> 00:41:58.319 are we putting ourselves at risk given that the relationship was finally 00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:02.000 starting to warm up and we were really getting some stuff done like us a 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:06.319 dedicated sponsored video with us is one of the one of the biggest things that a 00:42:03.839 --> 00:42:09.359 partner can do with us um and we finally did one with them given things we're 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:13.440 starting to warm up yes we're putting ourselves at risk but given that our 00:42:11.200 --> 00:42:16.880 business survived just fine for the five years prior to that no it's not a ton so 00:42:15.680 --> 00:42:20.880 we're not going to act like white knights here or anything like that but i 00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:25.440 also said allegedly a lot we said allegedly a lot because perception and 00:42:23.680 --> 00:42:30.160 that i'm not going to admit to having talked to anyone i'm just i'm going to 00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:33.040 say this i haven't talked to anyone and i'm also going to say this i'm not 00:42:31.520 --> 00:42:35.920 always a hundred percent honest with you guys 00:42:34.560 --> 00:42:39.760 so you can read into that whatever you feel like speaking of honor there's a few there's 00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:44.640 a i want to add one thing before we jump into 00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:46.560 sponsor spots um but uh one thing i want 00:42:44.640 --> 00:42:51.520 to add to is some of this stuff is future traceable 00:42:49.040 --> 00:42:54.640 so you'll be able to tell yep just 00:42:52.400 --> 00:43:00.079 keep that in mind like one of the smart things you can do um if you're trying to 00:42:57.359 --> 00:43:03.599 keep uh an agreement under wraps is you could give everyone slightly different 00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:08.240 terms that's fair yeah and that way if 00:43:06.560 --> 00:43:11.680 it came to light you could kind of go okay 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:15.680 it was one of them them or them and then something else came to light you could 00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:18.640 go it was them so 00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:22.880 even if i knew anything and i am being honest this is honest 00:43:20.640 --> 00:43:27.440 answers episode whatever this is haslin has seen the agreement 00:43:24.319 --> 00:43:29.520 the answer is no i have not seen it and 00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:34.880 i have been told by the people that i would 00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:34.880 never admit that i have talked to 00:43:35.040 --> 00:43:41.280 that i will never see it and that they will never tell me any details about it 00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:45.440 okay that actually did happen as well okay anyone that i won't admit that i talked 00:43:43.839 --> 00:43:51.119 to told me they would never show it to me and they would never tell me the details of it so that happened okay 00:43:49.839 --> 00:43:54.119 so there you go um 00:43:54.800 --> 00:44:00.160 yeah let's talk about let's talk about something like 00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:03.599 not horrible here's spectrum glasses hey 00:44:02.720 --> 00:44:07.359 like my my life is far less complicated right 00:44:06.160 --> 00:44:11.680 now talking about spectrum glasses 00:44:09.520 --> 00:44:15.760 instead of like stuff because this is just it's simple okay 00:44:13.359 --> 00:44:19.200 if you stare at a monitor all day the blue light a lot of blue light can 00:44:17.200 --> 00:44:23.760 be bad for your eyes yeah this filters it without having a huge 00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:27.119 impact on the color accuracy of the world around you 00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:30.319 um and compared to a software solution like flux or twilight 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:34.160 um it's more effective there it's also kind 00:44:32.720 --> 00:44:37.920 of weird like i i've got a flux equivalent on my phone i 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:41.040 don't know what it's called yeah um and it's kind of jarring yeah no it doesn't 00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:45.760 it doesn't work that way um they're stylish they've got tons of different styles to 00:44:43.520 --> 00:44:49.599 choose from including ones for kids um they're high quality like they feel 00:44:48.319 --> 00:44:53.200 good they feel good in the hand they got a one year warranty not just in the hand 00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:57.599 on your face too it's like spectrum it works great in 00:44:55.040 --> 00:45:01.040 your hand and on your face spectrum you'll want them in your hand 00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:05.520 you'll want it on your face that would actually be an interesting commercial for them to run it's just 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:09.040 they like hand people glasses and they're like wow these feel 00:45:07.200 --> 00:45:11.520 these feel great and then they just like they won't put them on now try putting 00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:15.839 it on your face and the person's like you know you should you should try it on and they're like no it just it feels 00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:18.880 amazing so they're primarily focused on the 00:45:17.520 --> 00:45:23.599 canadian and u.s markets but they're expanding to europe and they offer shipping internationally check them out 00:45:21.680 --> 00:45:28.319 at spectrumglasses.com collections slash prospect or at the 00:45:26.319 --> 00:45:30.800 link right there i still think it's prospect 00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:36.000 prospects yeah yeah yeah i'm an idiot uh use offer 00:45:33.680 --> 00:45:40.160 code Linus to save 10 if i have a spectrum i would change our 00:45:37.520 --> 00:45:44.400 offer code to use offer code idiot i would read it i would read anything 00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:47.839 for money that's what people think of me so i 00:45:45.680 --> 00:45:52.160 might as well just do it just embrace it speaking of anything for money if you're 00:45:50.240 --> 00:45:55.280 a freelancer or a small business owner doing whatever it is that you do for 00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:59.680 money freshbooks is here to help freshbooks is 00:45:57.520 --> 00:46:02.640 the super simple to use invoicing tool that actually does a lot more than help 00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:06.079 you create and send slick looking invoices it helps you track your time 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:09.760 with their time cheap function manage your expenses and keep track of who owes 00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:12.880 you what they've also got a feature that tells you when your client has looked at 00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:16.480 your invoice for the first time so you can put an end to the guessing games the 00:46:14.640 --> 00:46:19.440 mobile app has all the functionality of the desktop version so you can take 00:46:17.839 --> 00:46:23.280 freshbooks with you 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jerky that's and i'm not being paid by savage that's pretty epic okay ask them 00:47:03.200 --> 00:47:07.760 for a sweater i don't think i've ever done that from a company before i liked 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:14.720 their shirt i like the logo on their shirts i was like you guys should make a sweater 00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:16.720 and they replied they're like what kind 00:47:14.720 --> 00:47:21.680 because a high quality one maybe some of the freshest ingredients 00:47:19.680 --> 00:47:25.160 it tastes great and isn't bad for you turkey sweater 00:47:25.359 --> 00:47:31.520 oh my god that would be really gross actually but like your girlfriend be 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:34.240 like i can't wait to get that off of you and she's just like 00:47:36.640 --> 00:47:42.560 that's probably not a good idea he well he asked if i wanted a hockey 00:47:40.720 --> 00:47:47.440 sweater or like a more american-style sweater i was like that was a good point 00:47:45.680 --> 00:47:51.440 it'd be kind of interesting to have a like oh hockey style savage jerky 00:47:50.160 --> 00:47:56.000 sweater that doesn't help the hiccups yeah 00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:58.880 water doesn't make it better oh no oh 00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:02.800 full plane under your Floatplane while you're all screwed up no do the AMD 00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:07.839 don't do do Floatplane do full play no do flip 00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.839 okay fine 00:48:10.640 --> 00:48:14.359 i hate you so much 00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:26.400 that was a big bite 00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:32.400 i haven't eaten in a while like you have to build up a you have to build up a 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:39.280 tolerance i'm like straight up crying right now 00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:43.920 okay i thought i did bad last week videos on 00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:48.079 videos on Floatplane what are oems original equipment manufacturers i think 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:50.079 everyone's heard this term yeah what is it 00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:55.760 we explain cool scraping thermal paste oh by the way you're looking at the new layout of 00:48:53.200 --> 00:49:00.240 the Floatplane site yeah in order scraping thermal paste is Intel's 00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:04.880 thermal paste actually that bad we get a bag full of processors delid them 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:09.839 harvest the thermal paste and then use it on a liquid metal CPU 00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:12.880 against normal thermal paste cool 00:49:11.040 --> 00:49:19.440 all right ah NVIDIA's first sli gaming setup 00:49:16.319 --> 00:49:21.359 reconstructed okay 6 800 gts on an 00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:26.160 enforce board we've been working on that for a long time yep 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:29.680 two thousand thousand two million dollar clean room drive savers data recovery 00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:32.880 tour you should watch this you like want to yeah i haven't seen it yet but i'm 00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:36.000 really excited Techquickie how does eye tracking work 00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:41.599 i saw that thumbnail i was like whoa testing the 56 core system holy sh 00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:47.440 we don't have bleeping on the lan lanchow this was a simultaneous or no this was a 00:49:45.839 --> 00:49:52.319 short window the laptop to buy right now the lg gram 00:49:49.680 --> 00:49:56.160 2018 the added Thunderbolt great laptop um 00:49:54.559 --> 00:50:00.480 Intel CPU letters explained i don't think that's actually on youtube yet and 00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:04.720 then we do do some exclusive content not a ton but i tested the NVIDIA shield 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:08.640 from the ncix auction so no spoilers but that's over there as well and i think 00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:13.920 that's pretty much it for us yeah i think that's all we got on there right now you're doing pretty good yeah you 00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:17.440 recovered quite a bit no i i have i have recovered okay 00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:21.599 so let's talk about the next completely aids topic posted by coaxial gamer on 00:50:19.680 --> 00:50:25.520 the forum security flaws discovered in AMD zen 00:50:23.680 --> 00:50:31.359 processors so this sounds on the surface like 00:50:28.319 --> 00:50:32.559 oh um either 00:50:31.359 --> 00:50:36.960 yeah you know what depending on what kind of a tinfoil hat you wear this could sound like a lot of things 00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:42.559 this could sound like Intel trying to make AMD look bad this could sound like 00:50:39.839 --> 00:50:47.359 um AMD actually having security flaws and like them being all like 00:50:45.359 --> 00:50:51.119 being up on their high horse when Intel was dealing with their flaws wow they're 00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:55.200 a bunch of jerks or it looks like it may even be possible 00:50:53.359 --> 00:51:00.720 that this was an independent group looking to make AMD stock perform poorly 00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:00.720 so they could short it 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:05.920 so cts a security company based in israel 00:51:04.319 --> 00:51:09.760 announced tuesday that its researchers had found 13 critical security 00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:14.079 vulnerabilities that would let attackers access data stored 00:51:11.359 --> 00:51:18.079 on AMD's zen family processors including ryzen and even their epic server 00:51:15.839 --> 00:51:22.319 processors as well as install malware on them the vulnerabilities have been put 00:51:19.520 --> 00:51:24.800 into four groups called master key rise and fall 00:51:26.319 --> 00:51:33.440 fallout and camara thankfully nearly all of these 00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:37.760 vulnerabilities require root access in order to be exploited but it does get 00:51:35.200 --> 00:51:41.280 sketchy the researchers gave AMD less than 24 hours to look at the 00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:45.920 vulnerabilities and respond before publishing the report now that's not 00:51:43.200 --> 00:51:51.599 illegal but that is not considered to be industry 00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:54.079 not being a douche practices yeah um 00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:57.040 what else we got here standard vulnerability disclosure calls 00:51:55.760 --> 00:52:02.480 for at least 90 days so that the companies have time to address flaws properly google gave Intel six months to 00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:07.760 fix issues related to spectre and meltdown so 00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:11.530 if it's less than 90 days that could be like rivals like google and facebook 00:52:10.720 --> 00:52:17.359 being like i've got your thing 00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:19.839 yeah oh well you know we gave you enough time to fix it we're going public with 00:52:18.720 --> 00:52:23.760 this because it makes them look bad right it doesn't make you look that bad 00:52:22.240 --> 00:52:27.839 when a vulnerability goes public because everyone has issues when a vulnerability 00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:32.720 goes public but it's like already fixed so if you're trying to cause pr damage 00:52:29.680 --> 00:52:33.920 to someone you might go live in 30 days 00:52:32.720 --> 00:52:39.680 so that you could be like well they had a whole month to fix this yeah and kind of plausibly say that 24 hours that's 00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:44.079 not even enough time to check your email in some cases uh the researchers 00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:48.400 pre-briefed media and a company that makes money by shorting the stock market 00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:54.559 before going live with it viceroy research published an obituary 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:58.559 for AMD just 30 minutes after cts Labs publicized the vulnerabilities 00:52:57.040 --> 00:53:02.960 so this is some sketchy stuff now 00:53:00.720 --> 00:53:07.040 i'm not saying that these researchers aren't qualified to do CPU research i 00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:10.640 don't know there's been a lot of weird stuff too like people tried to deep dive 00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:14.400 this and one of the ones that i saw was like someone figured out that the 00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:17.680 backgrounds and all the videos were stock photos 00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:21.680 so they're like they don't have real one on reddit they might not even have a real office or they may have a real 00:53:20.240 --> 00:53:25.359 office but it doesn't look like super pro like that yeah but at the same time 00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:29.680 if you pay attention to the backgrounds throughout the videos at one point in 00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:33.280 time they're like middle frame on a photo that was taken mostly at the floor 00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:38.000 so like the person would have to be standing on like a 70 degree angle off 00:53:35.839 --> 00:53:41.119 the ground this way yeah for it to be realistic like i don't think they're 00:53:39.200 --> 00:53:46.240 actually trying to fool people yeah it was also like a super over 00:53:43.839 --> 00:53:50.319 produced kind of video too like it had kind of a sleazy vibe to me but 00:53:48.720 --> 00:53:55.040 that's actually not surprising from a company that's probably not released a video like a kickstarter yeah except 00:53:53.440 --> 00:54:00.640 that the production values were pretty good so for some reason they spent money 00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:02.880 to make a good looking video but 00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:06.480 um here i think this is this is it 00:54:05.040 --> 00:54:10.480 there's a great article from uh reborn.com i'm gonna go ahead i'll post 00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:15.040 this for you guys banner but check this out like this is actually done 00:54:13.040 --> 00:54:18.800 well so they put money into looking like they 00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:23.280 had an office okay sort of but hold on but then look at this one 00:54:21.680 --> 00:54:26.720 like that's that's the floor those servers are reflecting on this photo is 00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:31.760 taken from the floor it's a reflective floor i think no no no oh i got that wrong 00:54:30.319 --> 00:54:38.400 yeah it's halfway down the server rack yeah never mind so all right um i thought that was the 00:54:35.839 --> 00:54:42.720 floor right here oh wait hold on are you great but no i i i don't know 00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:46.240 i'm not sure i don't i thought it was really 00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:48.480 reflective polished floor but now i i kind of think that's just halfway 00:54:47.200 --> 00:54:54.160 through this yeah so 00:54:50.839 --> 00:54:56.559 um does it does it look really really 00:54:54.160 --> 00:54:59.440 janky yes i guess that's basically all we have to say about that 00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:06.280 yeah so there may actually be security issues but um 00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:13.920 yeah there also might not be or they also might just be like giant jerks 00:55:12.160 --> 00:55:17.440 all right um NVIDIA's ray tracing thing we're like 00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:22.319 out of time is there anything else that's like absolutely critical that we have to talk 00:55:20.319 --> 00:55:25.040 about this week i feel so bad james spent all day on this dock and we ended 00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:28.960 up talking about the NVIDIA thing the whole time uh famous people play video 00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:32.800 games that's a thing that happens uh that's probably all we really need to 00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:37.520 say about that uh yeah ea is turning star wars battlefront 2 into a real game 00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:41.920 apparently i'm a real game no no one cares the progression is now linear 00:55:40.160 --> 00:55:44.559 um star cards or any other item impacting gameplay can only be earned 00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:47.680 through gameplay will not be available for purchase 00:55:46.319 --> 00:55:51.440 so basically they made their money i guess or people stopped playing i guess one of 00:55:50.240 --> 00:55:55.599 the two starting in april you'll be able to get appearances directly through in-game credits or crystals all they 00:55:54.000 --> 00:56:00.799 need to do is make it star wars battlefront 2 battlegrounds 00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:03.200 or battle royale or battle extravaganza and then they'll make all their money 00:56:02.319 --> 00:56:09.440 back yeah they're going to be rolling out a bunch of new mods over the coming months 00:56:07.040 --> 00:56:12.160 cool so there you go make it that and you'll do great 00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:15.119 um twitch prime now offers free games every 00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:20.000 month amazon just like spending that money hey 00:56:18.240 --> 00:56:24.240 pretty nuts apparently um 00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:27.280 games for march 6 to april 3rd will be super hot which is actually amazing if 00:56:25.680 --> 00:56:32.720 you haven't played it yet great game oxen free shadow tactics mr shifty and 00:56:30.720 --> 00:56:35.359 tales from candle keep tomb of annihilation 00:56:34.160 --> 00:56:40.559 next month will be tales from the borderlands steam world dig 2 kingsway 00:56:38.319 --> 00:56:44.480 tokyo 42 and dub wars much like humble bundles i would be surprised if these 00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:49.359 stay awesome and it will okay it also looks kind of 00:56:46.319 --> 00:56:50.559 like they've got one more headliner game 00:56:49.359 --> 00:56:54.720 in each one and then some 00:56:53.200 --> 00:56:58.000 other ones which may or may not be cool but i'm not super familiar with them 00:56:56.319 --> 00:57:01.040 twitch prime is included with amazon prime by the way 00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:05.839 so i mean i already would have recommended an amazon prime membership 00:57:03.839 --> 00:57:09.440 so i guess i recommend it a little tiny bit more yeah 00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:15.280 um at the same time if you don't want the entire world to be taken over 00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:19.839 maybe consider not buying from broadcom is not buying qualcomm anymore 00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:22.880 because the us government blocked it it's official 00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:27.040 and spacex is trying to reach mars in 2019 go spacex cool thanks for watching 00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:30.799 the lan show see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye 00:57:32.319 --> 00:57:40.720 the WAN Show like 40 minutes of one thing and then like 00:57:36.799 --> 00:57:42.880 oh by the way some other stuff 00:57:40.720 --> 00:57:47.040 like the the time stamps this week are going to be like four things 00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:51.119 giant gap yeah wow we had a lot of viewership this week 00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:56.880 we should like do more expose on NVIDIA 00:57:55.440 --> 00:58:00.720 i mean i can't really think of anything at the moment but are you guys super all 00:57:59.359 --> 00:58:07.040 the twitch viewers are you guys super excited for the super clickbaity 00:58:03.359 --> 00:58:11.880 thumbnail and title on youtube go to ltx 00:58:07.040 --> 00:58:11.880 yeah oh we didn't do that