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it's when show time again or that is to say it was when show time about 20

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minutes about 20 minutes ago thank you for your patience um those of you who

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are watching on youtube in a certain way not very meaningful to

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you we were on time today in some time zone we were on time

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it's five o'clock somewhere

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which is irrelevant because we don't start at five yeah wait yes we do oh

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crap but not in that time zone no not my uh

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um can we blame uh daylight saving time uh

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yep so actually no one's gonna be watching this week anyway like i go look

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at the viewership statistics probably everyone was like um

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everyone everywhere else in the world probably thinks that it doesn't start

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for an hour it doesn't start for another hour yeah so no we're for we're 40

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oh my goodness we are early for like most of the world that's fantastic

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we are so good at this yes like online content creators yeah um all right so

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we've got a great show for you guys today yeah we specifically

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went out of our way to avoid talking about it last week

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and the reason was that honestly i just needed a little bit more

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time to figure out what the heck was going on here

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the g-force partner program yeah on the

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surface this looks like some pretty jank pretty scummy stuff

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and um below the surface

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um but yeah i mean realistically if i was gonna say it's all good i would have

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super muddy waters last week and it's a little bit a little bit more clear now

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like still kind of confusing did you ever play the game at the beach where

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you would like you would like stomp and then you'd get like the like the kind of

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godzilla looking cloud that comes out around your foot and you'd be like oh

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that was fun stomp and then you would get to the point

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where you couldn't really see the cloud anymore because it's because you just

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mucked up everything so that was last week

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now we've left it for a few hours and like we can go sort of stomp around a

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bit again but it's not it's not clear either what else we got

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okay um apparently another NVIDIA thing they're

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both just slamming it this week apparently they're going to announce rtx

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and another company's removing another

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headphone jack well it's the same headphone jack yeah

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that's fair well i guess it's a different headphone jack you know what well it's the same kind that's just

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really interesting yeah

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this video brought to you by spectra

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and fresh books

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can you eat either of those things no that's a real bummer because i'm

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super hungry

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i was like i thought i thought you were like spilling into a spot for the other

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guys no oh no okay no no not really i'm

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sure you could have these oh i'm not going to eat reaper jerky

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savage jerky's not sponsoring like they're right there yeah they're

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right there and i'd feel better well first i'd feel worse

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then i'd feel better and then i feel much worse

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all right why don't we jump into the news um this is going to be like not

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very many topics but a very long time yeah i'm not ready for the GeForce partner

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program are we jumping to that not yet yeah yeah let's talk about let's talk

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about something kind of trivial wow you and i are gonna have to play uh

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what's going on we're gonna have to play share the power adapter over the next

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little bit here because i've only gotten ten percent but that's okay i'm gonna oh i'm on

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battery saver already well okay then i'm gonna turn down my screen brightness

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a bit okay sony removed the headphone jack from the

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xperia xz2 and xz2 compact uh they

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outlined the details of why they did this in their blog this was originally

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posted on the forum by die hard live uh would you what do

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you mind doing die hard to live die hard to live yeah i can do a straw pool heck

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yeah do you even consider

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sony phones when buying a phone that is a fantastic straw poll

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would you consider a sony phone now yeah

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here in north america sony's market share is like

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this is one of the reasons why i want to do this poll though because we don't

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necessarily have just a north american audience exactly it'll be a little

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skewed because we're live right now yeah if this was the if we were able to

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get these results from the youtube audience i think it would be different

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than what it's going to be now someday when we're streaming on Floatplane

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and that stream we can then go we could have like perpetual pulling that like

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sits right under the video and that would be super cool that would totally work um i mean yeah it's all sort of

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theoretical at this point because Floatplane is not

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um last week i'm not trying to be a jerk or

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anything last week hit a little deep that that comments fair though yeah

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uh okay so i've gone ahead and i've dropped the straw poll in there but this

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for removing the headphone jack that subjectively um

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are probably about the worst reasons that you could do anything

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actually okay i hadn't read their two reasons before was that actually it or

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did we just like come up with that contribute to probably why i think

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so it's not good go ahead and pull up the results here would you consider a

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sony phone remember we didn't say would you buy a sony phone yeah we said would

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you even consider would you even think about it at all uh we've got 26 percent

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of you saying yes 74 percent of you saying no and only 500

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of you even bothering to vote which is some pretty low numbers for these when

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show struggles which i'm going to put that category as a wow i really don't

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care and no one is even no one is even still voting like the results aren't

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even rolling in anymore oh wait yes that yes they are oh oh and it died off

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pretty hard at 6 35. it died off pretty hard it's like still kind of going it's

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not okay so here are the reasons that sony outlined

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for making this decision and you got to remember the the strong opinion on this

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would be a yes anyone thinking no like it's kind of effort for them to be like

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yeah no so like there's probably a way higher

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percentage of people that actually wouldn't consider but anyway reason number one

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it looks more sleek without it so by that logic a human would probably

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look more sleek without an anus but you probably shouldn't remove it

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i thought you were gonna hold it together on that one but you couldn't no

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not quite reason number two

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other companies are doing it oh

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so painful now in fairness is that actually what they

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said in fairness to sony in fairness to sony hold on a second

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um here okay look do you want me to read

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the whole thing this is part of the shift to our new

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ambient flow design language in order to

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create the beautiful seamless design our designers needed to remove the headphone

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jack plus we were aware of the major market trend towards wireless headphones

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over wired headphones so yes they literally did they literally did

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say that um so okay

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in fairness to sony in defense of sony something that i'm not a hundred percent

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sure if they deserve right now um

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no one cares about their phones anyways no that is not what i was going to say

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be clear there i was also kidding in fairness to sony i never oh i never said

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the announcement video live i was trying to figure out why so few people i used to like their phones until we had so

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many of them just bend in half yeah uh well two i think

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three burkles mine yours burkles did too yeah

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oh i didn't even know that yeah how do you manage to do that it was a compact

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oh the compacts have the same issue as just less likely it was just burkle

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he's an action man um probably more action in his pants wow i meant like wow

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okay actually my defense of sony is actually worse than anything you've said

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in defensive in sony's defense the last time they tried to do something really

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innovative that was probably really expensive from

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an r d perspective because remember sony was the one that made waterproof

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mainstream that was cool that was very cool that's why i used to really like

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their phone and then they still didn't manage to sell more phones because of it

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but that's a whole other issue the last time they tried to do something they

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were the first to have a 4k display now creating a 4k mobile display you

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guys got to understand when you have a feature on your phone

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let's say oneplus uh launches a 2560 by

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1080 mobile display oneplus did not go and get that freaking

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panel created they are a relatively small player

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and when you're a relatively small player doing relatively small volume you

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don't get to walk up to samsung's display division or lg

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or uh auo or phillips or whoever it is

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you don't get to walk up and be like yo we need a custom sku it needs to have

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this color gamut uh this uh response

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time it needs to be this size at this resolution they're gonna laugh you out

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of their office you get to do that when you're apple

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when you're samsung believe it or not apple's notch display was custom created

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just for them because until apple did it of course

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after apple does it which ties into sony's other reasons yeah of course

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other people want it but until apple did it nobody else was gonna want that okay

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um so so sony would have had to actually

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create a 4k mobile display in that form factor

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for that phone that quite honestly they

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probably didn't sell a ton of based on our straw poll results and also you can

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just google it and just see like the people around you

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what phones they're using so they didn't yeah when's the last time you saw one so

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so sony didn't probably get a great roi

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on that particular you know breaking the mold kind of investment although even

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then giving them credit for breaking the mold in that way is

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not entirely fair because they were just following an overall market trend they

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were just trying to get out ahead of it in a way that was totally meaningless and stupid yes and almost never even

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worked anyways the phone ran in default 1080p almost all the time and then you'd

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like view a picture that was in 4k and you'd have to wait a second and then it

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would just like and then change resolution it was really

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make up for any kind of r d investment

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beyond just even the basics

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um but i'm just i'm disappointed i i was

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thrilled to see that samsung still had the headphone jack on the s9 and s9 plus

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um i think that you know what yeah the mainstream is moving to wireless but

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samsung is going to sell some handsets just for that and i really hope that

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they do get rewarded for it yeah all right

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what do we got for our next topic here

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oh should we get into the invasion these are all big deep ones i just have such

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this thing if you want to go pretty light and easy no no let's just let's

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just get this out of the way okay so the g-force partner program this was

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forum and it was posted by wm groom ak

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and this lady or gentleman whichever it is um okay let's go ahead and get screen

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share going on here uh basically read an article over on

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hard ocp from kyle bennett and

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said this found all of this interesting

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if his reporting checks out because

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basically and and this is sort of the problem

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this came to light from AMD bringing some of the details of what's called the

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to his attention and you gotta look at that's yeah you gotta look at no matter

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who it is like i i get that whoever you're a fanboy of whether it's

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AMD or Intel or NVIDIA i get that there's this like tribalism

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thing that's that's wired into us as human beings and

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when someone else does it it's the worst and when we do it it's just us getting

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back at them for being bad people

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but you got to understand that any time any any company brings something to your

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attention oh hey um have you noticed them doing this

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there's an agenda at play there's room for spin almost every action is selfish

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whether it's helpful to other people or not there's some amount of element that is usually selfish which is okay in a

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lot of cases but it's just something to be aware of yes it's you got to live your life sort

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of thinking about that in everything that you do

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so the basic summary is that the story

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uh by AMD in a blog post from march 1st NVIDIA

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outlined their new GeForce partner program which ostensibly

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helps consumers identify brands

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that deliver the g-force promise

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of delivering the best pc gaming

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platform bar none so let's go ahead and pull up NVIDIA's blog post

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that NVIDIA is very good at this oops there we go

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uh let's pull up NVIDIA's blog post that

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NVIDIA is so good at this um sort of

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puts it in the shiniest possible terms what they're doing here

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this is the headline the GeForce partner program helps gamers know what they're

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buying oh boy

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i was having trouble figuring out what i was buying before i'm sure glad that i

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graphics card skews are not a huge problem on the NVIDIA side

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yeah actually and even on the AMD side yeah it's pretty straightforward they're

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not that bad higher number is more better there was a little bit of confusingness for a section there but

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it's kind of the first number is the generation and then beyond that higher

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the AMD side when we had like fury and nano and actually no NVIDIA does have

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some stupid bs going on right now where the three gig and the six gig version of

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the 1060 are actually different cards yeah yeah uh okay that's fair so hold on

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a second well wait a minute is NVIDIA rescuing us from themselves

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is that what's happening right now we also had that stuff where the titan xp

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and the titan xp that that was okay that was really

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annoying that was really so um especially when the whole community

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nicknamed the first one the xp yeah and then they called their next one the xp

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okay okay so fine okay fine you know what then let's play let's play NVIDIA

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advocate uh go wait let's play NVIDIA advocate and say they did need to do

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something about this confusing industry so let's have a look at what they said

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the oh man wow this starts off horrible like right within the first two lines

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the GPU and software of a gaming pc make all the difference in a gamer's

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experience and together with our add-in card and system partners we're dedicated

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to building the best pc gaming platform bar none this is the GeForce promise

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partner program is designed to ensure that gamers have full transparency into

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the GPU platform and software they're being sold now i'm a

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i'm a let you finish but do you ever read stuff that just makes

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you like tired i'm doing it right now

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because i'm sure where you were going with yeah

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i'mma let you finish but there was no ambiguity here

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there there's already marketing incentives and in some cases

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like basically an ARM twisted behind the back like this

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where NVIDIA really has a lot of control

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over the the badges that are put on for example a product box or in the case of

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add-in cards even the overall design like you could take a picture from the

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side of an entire shelf of cards made by MSI ASUS Gigabyte evga

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and all the NVIDIA ones would be basically the same yeah they're really

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because NVIDIA has mandated and they have lots of levers they can pull to

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control their partners but NVIDIA has mandated that they need to kind of look

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like this and the levers that they can pull include pricing

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um allocation of the hot parts that

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actually sell um partner support so things like providing

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engineering support for your custom boards um access early access to the

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parts so you can begin development ahead of other guys and if all this kind

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of stuff has existed forever and it's like totally kind of fine kind of kind

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of there's there's some issues in some realms but most of it is fairly standard

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practice okay fine is a relative term most of this is fairly standard practice

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for a lot of different industries yeah depending on how it's done so the thing

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is that we we get a lot of uh we we get a lot of sort of feedback from our

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community that the perception is that we're sort of like friends of NVIDIA

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but the reality of it is we're not friends with anybody um we are a

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business and we have business partnerships

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and from a product perspective we like

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NVIDIA products just fine from a um sort of

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how we perceive their reputation within the industry

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we have some misgivings ones that we have brought to light in the past

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uh particularly actually i think probably the most recent example is the 1066 gig and three gig that's an

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extremely recent example we didn't like the way they did that well i mean like

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we mentioned at this show but there's also the recent change to GeForce

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experience yes we've also mentioned that which was like we put them on blasts for that and

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i still don't install it and i still don't recommend it and while i am

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not always at liberty to talk about especially the sources of the the the um

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the frustration with NVIDIA that takes place behind the scenes

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there's a lot of it that we're aware of and there's a lot of ARM twisting and uh

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you know it's you know think about it think NVIDIA is like the

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partner that stands there posing for a picture with you

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and has their foot on your toe yeah

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being like smile properly man that's the perception that

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i get a lot of the time please come say hi

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so let's continue reading about the g-force promise here

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this transparency into what you're buying is only possible when NVIDIA

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brands and partner brands are consistent

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so the new program means that we'll be promoting our gpp partner brands across

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the web on social media events and more so this sounds like oh NVIDIA's is doing

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great things for their partners gpp partners will also get early access

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to our latest innovations and work closely with our engineering team to bring the newest technologies to gamers

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partners are signing up fast they see the benefit of keeping brands and

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communication consistent and transparent does this not have like a um

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uh which which harry potter movie is it where uh uh umbridge takes over the

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school as the the professor the the the the prim and proper yeah you know

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lady who turns out to be like an absolute monster i don't know the name

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of it but i think it's the second last one yeah i don't know i don't remember anyway it's like not really important

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yeah the point is does this not have like yeah kind of a rules for you know

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proper behavior as students kind of vibe to it the program isn't exclusive partners

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continue to have the ability to sell and promote products from anyone partners

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choose to sign up for the program and they can stop participating at any time

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there's no commitment to make any monetary payments

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or product discounts for being part of the program

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gpp ensures our engineering and marketing efforts support brands

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consumers associate with g-force that transparency will give gamers the

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confidence needed to make their purchase whichever products they choose

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now i don't often feel the need to read out an entire press release from a

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company because a lot of the time frankly i feel like companies should pay

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me to read their stupid press release like honestly press releases that's not

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journalism that's not object that's not objective that's advertising they

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literally pay someone to write it and then they pay like market wire to

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distribute it that that's what it is um

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okay so on the surface this sounds like everything about this

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is voluntary and terrific but let's look at the state of the GPU market right now

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if you if you can get gpus you are making bank because of the whole

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cryptocurrency mining thing and pent up demand from gamers who haven't been able

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to get gpus because of the cryptocurrency mining thing

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if you can't get gpus you are basically plum out of luck and

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NVIDIA without doing anything

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that could open them up to a lawsuit can plausibly say

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we just didn't have enough for you you were on the list

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sorry and if you're let's say someone like

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evga for example you have

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other businesses you sell motherboards you sell

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crazy ridiculously high wattage power supplies yeah you sell power supplies

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you sell cases even but let's be honest

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when's the last time you saw an evga motherboard out in the wild

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so they sell they sell motherboards but do they sell a lot of them compared to

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someone like an ASUS or a Gigabyte no not really and that isn't to say that

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they're bad boards that's just to say that they aren't as popular and that

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evga's business is very reliant on gpus

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so if evga couldn't get

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allocation of gpus to say that their business would suffer

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would be a gross understatement so NVIDIA's blog post outlining how

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this is all very voluntary it just ensures that they

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get the benefits of being part of the partner program

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it comes across a little bit disingenuous because

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that's not what's going on here what's going on is that if you don't join the partner program

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you're not going to get allocation and your business is going to suffer and

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you're going to have to lay off real people with real families

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who won't have a job anymore and won't be

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able to support them and that's something that if i'm a company like

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evga that for the most part my experience

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with them has actually been very positive i would like to believe that they care

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about um so you're pretty much joining the

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GeForce partner program so

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let's go to the heart ocp article huge shout out to kyle for for doing what he

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was doing here so hard ocp began interviewing aibs and oems

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i'm going to re-share this in twitch checks i showed it wow yeah go ahead hit twitch chat with that it's really

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important um so they began interviewing aibs and oems who communicated a few

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things one that the GeForce partner program

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has terms in it that are likely illegal

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number two that the GeForce partner program is

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going to likely tremendously hurt consumer choice and number three that

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the GeForce partner program will disrupt business with companies

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that are currently doing business with AMD in particular AMD and Intel

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the other thing that he gleaned and we

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haven't been able to verify this because here's what you guys

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got to understand i don't i've never seen the agreement

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and i know for a fact i will never see the agreement

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it would shock me if anyone ever saw this agreement out in the public but

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what i know about agreements like this is that let's say for example that uh

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uh um a gag order was done in an illegal

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fashion let's say i made you sign some kind of an agreement that says this is a

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very spicy agreement yeah spicy agreement okay if you talk about this

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agreement i will kill you and you will authorize me to kill you oh okay

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obviously illegal

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but let's say it wasn't murder let's say it was something slightly less black and

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white than that like i'll kill your company yeah like that

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which to a lot of people is kind of close

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yeah i mean people have committed suicide over their companies

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yeah so let's say that it was something like that

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you could you could you could you could break the agreement at some point but

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until you fight me in court and prove

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that depending on the way it's wording because expensive lawyers can do expensive

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lawyer things depending on the way it's worded the onus could be on you

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to prove that you don't owe me whatever it was

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so your business could effectively be destroyed in the years and after the

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money that it costs you to fight me

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so even though i have an illegal term and i have a potentially illegal

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punishment for it you don't want to be the one who steps

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out of line because i can punish you in the meantime in ways that would destroy

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you to the point where it would never matter

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if what i did was illegal because you wouldn't even exist to take a payout

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anymore five years ten years down the road when you would be in a position to

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finally get your payout now that

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is a real possibility and i'm not saying that i know that that's what's happening

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but what i do know is that nobody is coughing up this agreement and

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i do know that agreements like this do exist

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okay so with all of that in mind

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further information that hart ocp is publishing

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alleges that the GeForce partner program and i think okay to to

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i'm not disagreeing with anything that you're saying okay but to play a little

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bit both sides oh i know i know but to play a little bit of both sides yeah

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alleges is a pretty important word here

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like there's a lot of as well according to

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kyle bennett's article on heart ocp and a lot of it makes sense

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and i'm explaining how it could make sense but it lines up pretty okay but like

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okay yeah so thank you yeah are you at our legal department

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i was sort of at one point long time ago um but okay i don't want to talk about

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this

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but like yeah i just want to make sure that's clear because while this might

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make sense and all that kind of stuff it's not technically

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complete it's it's all alleges okay

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so kyle's article further alleges that

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in order to have access to the GeForce partner program

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partners must have their own gaming

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brand aligned exclusively with g-force

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now think about that for a minute because that's been a huge trend over

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the last 10 years or so i think rog

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just celebrated its 10-year anniversary with the rampage five

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extreme they had a 10-year anniversary edition of that port and rog was one of

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the to ASUS credit this was ASUS doesn't

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always get marketing right but to ASUS's credit

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they built the rog brand when i called it a stupid idea way back in the day so

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kudos to them and uh the rest of the industry basically was playing follow

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the leader and that's yeah i would also say they they have nailed it a few times

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ASUS's rog um

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gigabytes aorus um lenovo's legion

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uh who else do we have dell's xps or alienware to a greater extent xps is

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less gaming these days it used to be different engine has been having more of an issue getting its

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well they just launched that's fair like ces 15 months ago or something like that

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so give them some time but it also alleges that all of these brands

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will have to be exclusively aligned with g-force

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so even though NVIDIA's blog post says partners continue to have the ability to

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sell and promote products from anyone the gpp documentation allegedly says

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that those who do not participate will lose

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benefits like high effort engineering engagements early tech engagement launch

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partner status game bundling

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sales rebate programs i'll get back to that one social media and pr support

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marketing reports and marketing development funds so let's get back to

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sales rebate programs and marketing development funds for a minute here

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the way the tech industry works and there's a reason for it because if you

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gave every mom and pop computer shop a one dollar discount they would take it

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straight to price and sell the product for cheaper which as a consumer you

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might go wow that's great but it isn't necessarily because we

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talked about this previously when Intel wasn't providing the support

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that we feel like they should on their previous generation chipsets um

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in terms of patching for spectre and meltdown but the problem with just charging the

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bear amount is that it doesn't give you the the

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business um war chest that you need to well to go to

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war in the event that you have to and it's one of those things where

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it kind of relies on a business to behave in a manner that is in good faith

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acting in the consumer's best interest but a business that is making a healthy

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profit is in a better position to as an extreme example still exist

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a year later when you come back for warranty support you actually need the

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companies that you buy things from to make a profit

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yeah does that make sense okay so anyway

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the problem with the it industry is that it tends to be and it's kind of a

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cultural thing i'm not going to get any deeper into it than that but it tends to

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be a race to zero industry volume volume volume

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take down as much margin as you can so you can take the volume that your

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competitor would have been doing force them under

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and then someday we'll raise the prices yeah and you do eventually see that like

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the hard drive industry enjoyed a short period of great margins when basically

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everyone was gone and then they were supplanted by the SSD industry in the

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mainstream and to be clear hard drives are still doing fine in the cloud

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they're not going away or anything but that business is a b2b business which

461
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,840
tends to be lower margins so there was like a there was like a golden hour

462
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:33,760
there for the hard drive industry uh here do you need this yeah go for it

463
00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:38,720
um right so the way that the tech industry

464
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:42,679
works is that the pricing is fixed you just say okay look

465
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:49,200
a core i5 8600k that's 200 u.s

466
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:53,840
and then the way that you actually provide promotions or the way that you

467
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:58,080
make someone like formerly so when i worked at ncix the way that ncix was

468
00:33:56,399 --> 00:34:03,679
able to differentiate from mom and pop shops was not the sticker price it was

469
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:08,639
the back end support because every CPU we sold we got a couple percentage

470
00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:13,280
kickback at the end of a quarter and every CPU we sold well you know

471
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:17,359
during black friday we might get five bucks or 10 bucks off now all of a

472
00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:21,200
sudden mom and pop in order to compete with us have to sell below cost

473
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:25,359
giving us an advantage that's the way that you actually stay

474
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:29,200
competitive and to be clear this isn't some kind of like subversive cloak and

475
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:33,839
dagger nonsense because within sort of the the mainstream stores

476
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:37,040
that you shop at best buy new egg i mean okay some of these are kind of dated

477
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:42,000
references tiger direct memory express canada computers um uh micro center

478
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,599
uh amazon the programs are basically across the

479
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:48,960
board pretty similar and whenever someone finds out that they get a god

480
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,800
approach that someone else got a program that they didn't there's outrage and

481
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:55,520
usually the brand ends up kind of doing something to make it up to you and then

482
00:34:54,240 --> 00:35:01,760
the other guy complains about that it's all negotiations it's business as usual

483
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:07,200
now the problem here is that with gpus in particular

484
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:10,160
NVIDIA maintains a lot of control

485
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:15,359
over the pricing at every level to the partners and to the end users through

486
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:18,800
tools like these kinds of rebates so they sell the chipset to the vendor

487
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,440
at some price x but then NVIDIA could

488
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:27,440
decide a week later to go well you know what here's a sell-through rebate

489
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:31,040
effectively lowering the price without actually lowering the sticker price

490
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,640
meaning that someone who has a multi-week in some cases lead time

491
00:35:33,359 --> 00:35:39,200
between acquiring chips and then turning them into boards

492
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:43,440
delivering them to retailers and eventually selling through them might

493
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:47,599
effectively have a bunch of stock that's overpriced now and no real recourse for

494
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:52,240
getting rid of it and so it's at NVIDIA's discretion to support you to

495
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:57,040
get rid of it which is a fairly direct way a fairly

496
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:59,920
strong but indirect way to sort of choke

497
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:03,920
out a company that's right so game bundling

498
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:07,280
mdf and sales rebate programs are basically like saying

499
00:36:05,839 --> 00:36:13,440
you'll never make money on graphics cards again if you were to remove all that stuff

500
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,040
yeah okay

501
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:20,880
um i forget where we were going with this but partner brand aligned

502
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:25,119
exclusively with NVIDIA partners have the ability to sell and promote products

503
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:28,240
from anyone but the allegedly this behind-the-scenes

504
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:32,160
documentation says they'll get all of this support cut and to be clear the

505
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:34,079
public documentation doesn't say any of that

506
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:41,760
okay heart ocp has been told that if a company does not participate in gpp

507
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:46,079
they feel not by NVIDIA yeah as if NVIDIA would hold back allocation

508
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:49,839
of gpus from their inventories this has not been spelled out contractually but

509
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:55,280
the feeling is that it's done on a wink and a nod

510
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:58,720
to be fair they said that the stuff we just

511
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:04,079
mentioned losing all these different things was in the documentation this is

512
00:37:01,839 --> 00:37:09,680
a feeling yeah the allocation bit is a feeling and then the next part that

513
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:11,920
we're going to talk about is also a like

514
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:16,800
feeling yeah so it was expressed to heart ocp that publishing that article

515
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:19,520
could damage heart ocps relationship with NVIDIA

516
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:26,560
which well we've gotten to the end of it now i guess i guess we're in the same boat

517
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,160
look at that but knowing uh and like

518
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:32,640
okay to jump all the way back to the beginning of this conversation in terms

519
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:36,320
of uh like there's always there's very extremely massively often

520
00:37:35,359 --> 00:37:41,599
i'm not going to say always because someone's going to call me on that in some weird way but there there's

521
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:46,400
basically always a selfish reason for everything whether it's all

522
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:49,760
this region is tiny or huge whatever um saying

523
00:37:47,359 --> 00:37:53,359
hey if you release this NVIDIA is going to be mad well

524
00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:56,480
saying that to heart ocp was probably pushing them to release it

525
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:02,480
um because then again maybe not kyle's been in the industry a long time and he's

526
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:06,079
deeply connected they may have actually had his best interest at heart

527
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,599
possibly but from articles that i've read from him before too

528
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:13,280
no issue but pushing that kind of stuff but let's go let's go let's let's take

529
00:38:11,359 --> 00:38:15,680
the helicopter up another thousand feet and let's go why were they talking to

530
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:21,119
him at all yeah yeah seriously so so the particular

531
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:24,800
warning might have been in kyle's best interest but the fact that they're

532
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:28,160
talking to him at all is probably in their own best interest and i'm sure

533
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:32,720
they know that he likes juicy articles and also for the consumer's best

534
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:36,240
interest potentially like because remember there there could be a selfish

535
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,200
kernel but that doesn't mean that it doesn't benefit a whole bunch of people

536
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:43,359
and that you couldn't don't know how much rationalize the benefit you're

537
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:46,560
providing to yourself by saying well it also helps out all these other guys

538
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:50,640
which is great in a lot of situations that's honestly mostly how charity works

539
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:54,160
but yeah like you just don't know how much

540
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:58,079
how much of this is helping other people how much of this is selling and for kyle

541
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:02,640
to talk about how this article could damage the relationship with NVIDIA

542
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:06,640
you can find a selfish colonel there too by saying that he's adding credibility

543
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:10,400
to his own publication by saying you know what i'm willing to

544
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:14,400
risk damaging my relationship with NVIDIA in order to bring you guys the

545
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:19,200
facts and in this case this actually does look to me and i do i

546
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:23,040
haven't seen the partner agreement and i won't admit to having talked to anyone

547
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:27,680
about this behind the scenes but this looks to me like it actually

548
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:33,040
does have the potential to damage a relationship with NVIDIA NVIDIA is

549
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:37,680
um well it comes back to the portrait

550
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:41,520
NVIDIA smiles a lot and they they talk about partnership a

551
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:48,560
lot and what they mean is

552
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:52,800
they have expectations of their partners and if their partners don't meet them

553
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:55,800
well hmm

554
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:05,200
that's my perception and a lot of people think that we're like super super chummy

555
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:10,960
with NVIDIA but i've said before in the past and i'll say it again now

556
00:40:07,359 --> 00:40:13,599
we have done a grand total of three

557
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:19,280
sponsored engagements with NVIDIA we did some uh pre-rolls way back when

558
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:23,040
we first started and those were actually that was a complicated thing because

559
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:27,680
probably none of you even remember them it was 10 spots and they were all for a

560
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:31,760
particular evga graphics card but the funding was being passed through

561
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:36,320
via mdf from NVIDIA

562
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,119
so that one hardly even registers number

563
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:42,960
two we went down to california and hosted

564
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:48,960
mod 24 their modding event we were paid what i consider to be a very modest fee

565
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:52,320
for that kind of an engagement yeah and the number three

566
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:55,599
this was the first time they had actually done flat out a sponsored video

567
00:40:54,640 --> 00:41:01,599
with us ever they did something with us in q4 talking

568
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:06,480
about how to game at 4k they were actually pretty easy to work with which

569
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:10,400
was kind of refreshing um because we were able to talk about game consoles as

570
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:14,079
well we kept it very objective and we told them up front we were like look

571
00:41:12,319 --> 00:41:17,280
we never actually work with you guys on sponsored stuff but there's this

572
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,480
perception that we're in your pocket so you gotta understand we're gonna have to

573
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,760
approach this very carefully yeah

574
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:27,760
um and they were actually pretty cool about it but that's the extent of it we

575
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:32,640
have worked far more extensively with AMD Intel ASUS

576
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,920
uh i think we've done more stuff with MSI

577
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:40,319
i mean certainly more stuff with the regular partners like um like uh

578
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,680
squarespace uh zotac we haven't really done much big stuff with more than but

579
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:47,119
we've done but we've done actually yeah we've done a fair bit with zotek yeah

580
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:51,119
okay yeah yeah like most people

581
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:55,119
so there you go so

582
00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:58,319
are we putting ourselves at risk given that the relationship was finally

583
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:02,000
starting to warm up and we were really getting some stuff done like us a

584
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:06,319
dedicated sponsored video with us is one of the one of the biggest things that a

585
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:09,359
partner can do with us um and we finally did one with them given things we're

586
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,440
starting to warm up yes we're putting ourselves at risk but given that our

587
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,880
business survived just fine for the five years prior to that no it's not a ton so

588
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,880
we're not going to act like white knights here or anything like that but i

589
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:25,440
also said allegedly a lot we said allegedly a lot because perception and

590
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:30,160
that i'm not going to admit to having talked to anyone i'm just i'm going to

591
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:33,040
say this i haven't talked to anyone and i'm also going to say this i'm not

592
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,920
always a hundred percent honest with you guys

593
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,760
so you can read into that whatever you feel like speaking of honor there's a few there's

594
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:44,640
a i want to add one thing before we jump into

595
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:46,560
sponsor spots um but uh one thing i want

596
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:51,520
to add to is some of this stuff is future traceable

597
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:54,640
so you'll be able to tell yep just

598
00:42:52,400 --> 00:43:00,079
keep that in mind like one of the smart things you can do um if you're trying to

599
00:42:57,359 --> 00:43:03,599
keep uh an agreement under wraps is you could give everyone slightly different

600
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:08,240
terms that's fair yeah and that way if

601
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,680
it came to light you could kind of go okay

602
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:15,680
it was one of them them or them and then something else came to light you could

603
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:18,640
go it was them so

604
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,880
even if i knew anything and i am being honest this is honest

605
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:27,440
answers episode whatever this is haslin has seen the agreement

606
00:43:24,319 --> 00:43:29,520
the answer is no i have not seen it and

607
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:34,880
i have been told by the people that i would

608
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:34,880
never admit that i have talked to

609
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:41,280
that i will never see it and that they will never tell me any details about it

610
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:45,440
okay that actually did happen as well okay anyone that i won't admit that i talked

611
00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:51,119
to told me they would never show it to me and they would never tell me the details of it so that happened okay

612
00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:54,119
so there you go um

613
00:43:54,800 --> 00:44:00,160
yeah let's talk about let's talk about something like

614
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,599
not horrible here's spectrum glasses hey

615
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:07,359
like my my life is far less complicated right

616
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:11,680
now talking about spectrum glasses

617
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:15,760
instead of like stuff because this is just it's simple okay

618
00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:19,200
if you stare at a monitor all day the blue light a lot of blue light can

619
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:23,760
be bad for your eyes yeah this filters it without having a huge

620
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:27,119
impact on the color accuracy of the world around you

621
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:30,319
um and compared to a software solution like flux or twilight

622
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:34,160
um it's more effective there it's also kind

623
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:37,920
of weird like i i've got a flux equivalent on my phone i

624
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,040
don't know what it's called yeah um and it's kind of jarring yeah no it doesn't

625
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:45,760
it doesn't work that way um they're stylish they've got tons of different styles to

626
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:49,599
choose from including ones for kids um they're high quality like they feel

627
00:44:48,319 --> 00:44:53,200
good they feel good in the hand they got a one year warranty not just in the hand

628
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:57,599
on your face too it's like spectrum it works great in

629
00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:01,040
your hand and on your face spectrum you'll want them in your hand

630
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:05,520
you'll want it on your face that would actually be an interesting commercial for them to run it's just

631
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:09,040
they like hand people glasses and they're like wow these feel

632
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,520
these feel great and then they just like they won't put them on now try putting

633
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:15,839
it on your face and the person's like you know you should you should try it on and they're like no it just it feels

634
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,880
amazing so they're primarily focused on the

635
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:23,599
canadian and u.s markets but they're expanding to europe and they offer shipping internationally check them out

636
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:28,319
at spectrumglasses.com collections slash prospect or at the

637
00:45:26,319 --> 00:45:30,800
link right there i still think it's prospect

638
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:36,000
prospects yeah yeah yeah i'm an idiot uh use offer

639
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:40,160
code Linus to save 10 if i have a spectrum i would change our

640
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:44,400
offer code to use offer code idiot i would read it i would read anything

641
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:47,839
for money that's what people think of me so i

642
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:52,160
might as well just do it just embrace it speaking of anything for money if you're

643
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:55,280
a freelancer or a small business owner doing whatever it is that you do for

644
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trial and enter when in the how did you hear

656
00:46:36,319 --> 00:46:42,160
about us section all right

657
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,200
one thing we did a one topic lan show today people are running super hard with

658
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:49,280
the allegedly thing everything's allegedly i love it

659
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:52,720
um and then the other thing is people are saying that the offer code should

660
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:56,480
just be id20 oh yeah that could work

661
00:46:54,720 --> 00:47:00,720
it's not a bad offer code you're pretty good i'm hungry enough to eat reaper

662
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:04,800
jerky that's and i'm not being paid by savage that's pretty epic okay ask them

663
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,760
for a sweater i don't think i've ever done that from a company before i liked

664
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:14,720
their shirt i like the logo on their shirts i was like you guys should make a sweater

665
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:16,720
and they replied they're like what kind

666
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:21,680
because a high quality one maybe some of the freshest ingredients

667
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:25,160
it tastes great and isn't bad for you turkey sweater

668
00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:31,520
oh my god that would be really gross actually but like your girlfriend be

669
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:34,240
like i can't wait to get that off of you and she's just like

670
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:42,560
that's probably not a good idea he well he asked if i wanted a hockey

671
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:47,440
sweater or like a more american-style sweater i was like that was a good point

672
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:51,440
it'd be kind of interesting to have a like oh hockey style savage jerky

673
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:56,000
sweater that doesn't help the hiccups yeah

674
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,880
water doesn't make it better oh no oh

675
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:02,800
full plane under your Floatplane while you're all screwed up no do the AMD

676
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:07,839
don't do do Floatplane do full play no do flip

677
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,839
okay fine

678
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,359
i hate you so much

679
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:26,400
that was a big bite

680
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:32,400
i haven't eaten in a while like you have to build up a you have to build up a

681
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:39,280
tolerance i'm like straight up crying right now

682
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:43,920
okay i thought i did bad last week videos on

683
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:48,079
videos on Floatplane what are oems original equipment manufacturers i think

684
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:50,079
everyone's heard this term yeah what is it

685
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:55,760
we explain cool scraping thermal paste oh by the way you're looking at the new layout of

686
00:48:53,200 --> 00:49:00,240
the Floatplane site yeah in order scraping thermal paste is Intel's

687
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:04,880
thermal paste actually that bad we get a bag full of processors delid them

688
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:09,839
harvest the thermal paste and then use it on a liquid metal CPU

689
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,880
against normal thermal paste cool

690
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all right ah NVIDIA's first sli gaming setup

691
00:49:16,319 --> 00:49:21,359
reconstructed okay 6 800 gts on an

692
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:26,160
enforce board we've been working on that for a long time yep

693
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:29,680
two thousand thousand two million dollar clean room drive savers data recovery

694
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:32,880
tour you should watch this you like want to yeah i haven't seen it yet but i'm

695
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:36,000
really excited Techquickie how does eye tracking work

696
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:41,599
i saw that thumbnail i was like whoa testing the 56 core system holy sh

697
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:47,440
we don't have bleeping on the lan lanchow this was a simultaneous or no this was a

698
00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:52,319
short window the laptop to buy right now the lg gram

699
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:56,160
2018 the added Thunderbolt great laptop um

700
00:49:54,559 --> 00:50:00,480
Intel CPU letters explained i don't think that's actually on youtube yet and

701
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:04,720
then we do do some exclusive content not a ton but i tested the NVIDIA shield

702
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:08,640
from the ncix auction so no spoilers but that's over there as well and i think

703
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:13,920
that's pretty much it for us yeah i think that's all we got on there right now you're doing pretty good yeah you

704
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:17,440
recovered quite a bit no i i have i have recovered okay

705
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:21,599
so let's talk about the next completely aids topic posted by coaxial gamer on

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00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:25,520
the forum security flaws discovered in AMD zen

707
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processors so this sounds on the surface like

708
00:50:28,319 --> 00:50:32,559
oh um either

709
00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:36,960
yeah you know what depending on what kind of a tinfoil hat you wear this could sound like a lot of things

710
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:42,559
this could sound like Intel trying to make AMD look bad this could sound like

711
00:50:39,839 --> 00:50:47,359
um AMD actually having security flaws and like them being all like

712
00:50:45,359 --> 00:50:51,119
being up on their high horse when Intel was dealing with their flaws wow they're

713
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:55,200
a bunch of jerks or it looks like it may even be possible

714
00:50:53,359 --> 00:51:00,720
that this was an independent group looking to make AMD stock perform poorly

715
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,720
so they could short it

716
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,920
so cts a security company based in israel

717
00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:09,760
announced tuesday that its researchers had found 13 critical security

718
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:14,079
vulnerabilities that would let attackers access data stored

719
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:18,079
on AMD's zen family processors including ryzen and even their epic server

720
00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:22,319
processors as well as install malware on them the vulnerabilities have been put

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00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:24,800
into four groups called master key rise and fall

722
00:51:26,319 --> 00:51:33,440
fallout and camara thankfully nearly all of these

723
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:37,760
vulnerabilities require root access in order to be exploited but it does get

724
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:41,280
sketchy the researchers gave AMD less than 24 hours to look at the

725
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:45,920
vulnerabilities and respond before publishing the report now that's not

726
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:51,599
illegal but that is not considered to be industry

727
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:54,079
not being a douche practices yeah um

728
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:57,040
what else we got here standard vulnerability disclosure calls

729
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:02,480
for at least 90 days so that the companies have time to address flaws properly google gave Intel six months to

730
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:07,760
fix issues related to spectre and meltdown so

731
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:11,530
if it's less than 90 days that could be like rivals like google and facebook

732
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:17,359
being like i've got your thing

733
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,839
yeah oh well you know we gave you enough time to fix it we're going public with

734
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:23,760
this because it makes them look bad right it doesn't make you look that bad

735
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:27,839
when a vulnerability goes public because everyone has issues when a vulnerability

736
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:32,720
goes public but it's like already fixed so if you're trying to cause pr damage

737
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,920
to someone you might go live in 30 days

738
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:39,680
so that you could be like well they had a whole month to fix this yeah and kind of plausibly say that 24 hours that's

739
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:44,079
not even enough time to check your email in some cases uh the researchers

740
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:48,400
pre-briefed media and a company that makes money by shorting the stock market

741
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:54,559
before going live with it viceroy research published an obituary

742
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:58,559
for AMD just 30 minutes after cts Labs publicized the vulnerabilities

743
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:02,960
so this is some sketchy stuff now

744
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:07,040
i'm not saying that these researchers aren't qualified to do CPU research i

745
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:10,640
don't know there's been a lot of weird stuff too like people tried to deep dive

746
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:14,400
this and one of the ones that i saw was like someone figured out that the

747
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,680
backgrounds and all the videos were stock photos

748
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,680
so they're like they don't have real one on reddit they might not even have a real office or they may have a real

749
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:25,359
office but it doesn't look like super pro like that yeah but at the same time

750
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:29,680
if you pay attention to the backgrounds throughout the videos at one point in

751
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:33,280
time they're like middle frame on a photo that was taken mostly at the floor

752
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:38,000
so like the person would have to be standing on like a 70 degree angle off

753
00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:41,119
the ground this way yeah for it to be realistic like i don't think they're

754
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:46,240
actually trying to fool people yeah it was also like a super over

755
00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:50,319
produced kind of video too like it had kind of a sleazy vibe to me but

756
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:55,040
that's actually not surprising from a company that's probably not released a video like a kickstarter yeah except

757
00:53:53,440 --> 00:54:00,640
that the production values were pretty good so for some reason they spent money

758
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,880
to make a good looking video but

759
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:06,480
um here i think this is this is it

760
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:10,480
there's a great article from uh reborn.com i'm gonna go ahead i'll post

761
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:15,040
this for you guys banner but check this out like this is actually done

762
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:18,800
well so they put money into looking like they

763
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:23,280
had an office okay sort of but hold on but then look at this one

764
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:26,720
like that's that's the floor those servers are reflecting on this photo is

765
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:31,760
taken from the floor it's a reflective floor i think no no no oh i got that wrong

766
00:54:30,319 --> 00:54:38,400
yeah it's halfway down the server rack yeah never mind so all right um i thought that was the

767
00:54:35,839 --> 00:54:42,720
floor right here oh wait hold on are you great but no i i i don't know

768
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:46,240
i'm not sure i don't i thought it was really

769
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,480
reflective polished floor but now i i kind of think that's just halfway

770
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:54,160
through this yeah so

771
00:54:50,839 --> 00:54:56,559
um does it does it look really really

772
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:59,440
janky yes i guess that's basically all we have to say about that

773
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:06,280
yeah so there may actually be security issues but um

774
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:13,920
yeah there also might not be or they also might just be like giant jerks

775
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:17,440
all right um NVIDIA's ray tracing thing we're like

776
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:22,319
out of time is there anything else that's like absolutely critical that we have to talk

777
00:55:20,319 --> 00:55:25,040
about this week i feel so bad james spent all day on this dock and we ended

778
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:28,960
up talking about the NVIDIA thing the whole time uh famous people play video

779
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:32,800
games that's a thing that happens uh that's probably all we really need to

780
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:37,520
say about that uh yeah ea is turning star wars battlefront 2 into a real game

781
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:41,920
apparently i'm a real game no no one cares the progression is now linear

782
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,559
um star cards or any other item impacting gameplay can only be earned

783
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,680
through gameplay will not be available for purchase

784
00:55:46,319 --> 00:55:51,440
so basically they made their money i guess or people stopped playing i guess one of

785
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:55,599
the two starting in april you'll be able to get appearances directly through in-game credits or crystals all they

786
00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:00,799
need to do is make it star wars battlefront 2 battlegrounds

787
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:03,200
or battle royale or battle extravaganza and then they'll make all their money

788
00:56:02,319 --> 00:56:09,440
back yeah they're going to be rolling out a bunch of new mods over the coming months

789
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:12,160
cool so there you go make it that and you'll do great

790
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,119
um twitch prime now offers free games every

791
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:20,000
month amazon just like spending that money hey

792
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:24,240
pretty nuts apparently um

793
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:27,280
games for march 6 to april 3rd will be super hot which is actually amazing if

794
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:32,720
you haven't played it yet great game oxen free shadow tactics mr shifty and

795
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:35,359
tales from candle keep tomb of annihilation

796
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:40,559
next month will be tales from the borderlands steam world dig 2 kingsway

797
00:56:38,319 --> 00:56:44,480
tokyo 42 and dub wars much like humble bundles i would be surprised if these

798
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:49,359
stay awesome and it will okay it also looks kind of

799
00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:50,559
like they've got one more headliner game

800
00:56:49,359 --> 00:56:54,720
in each one and then some

801
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:58,000
other ones which may or may not be cool but i'm not super familiar with them

802
00:56:56,319 --> 00:57:01,040
twitch prime is included with amazon prime by the way

803
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:05,839
so i mean i already would have recommended an amazon prime membership

804
00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:09,440
so i guess i recommend it a little tiny bit more yeah

805
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:15,280
um at the same time if you don't want the entire world to be taken over

806
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:19,839
maybe consider not buying from broadcom is not buying qualcomm anymore

807
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,880
because the us government blocked it it's official

808
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:27,040
and spacex is trying to reach mars in 2019 go spacex cool thanks for watching

809
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:30,799
the lan show see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye

810
00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:40,720
the WAN Show like 40 minutes of one thing and then like

811
00:57:36,799 --> 00:57:42,880
oh by the way some other stuff

812
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:47,040
like the the time stamps this week are going to be like four things

813
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:51,119
giant gap yeah wow we had a lot of viewership this week

814
00:57:51,599 --> 00:57:56,880
we should like do more expose on NVIDIA

815
00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:00,720
i mean i can't really think of anything at the moment but are you guys super all

816
00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:07,040
the twitch viewers are you guys super excited for the super clickbaity

817
00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:11,880
thumbnail and title on youtube go to ltx

818
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,880
yeah oh we didn't do that
