1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,360 Oh, hi, Mark. 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,040 Hi, Jonathan. What are you doing on my desk? I hear you're editing the next Mac Address. 3 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:18,000 That's correct, yeah. I thought, instead of using this big, cumbersome computer with all these screens, you should 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:23,000 edit the next one instead with this. Oh, this should be interesting. 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,000 What? You may have already seen the video Mark edited on the iPad. 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,880 It's the long-awaited review of the Samsung Viewfinity S9. 7 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:37,160 It turned out pretty good, I think. Final Cut Pro on the iPad is looking like a dream, eh? 8 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:43,240 What is, like, the dream editing setup for you? I love the concept of touchscreen with editing. 9 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,880 That is something that I've always craved. 10 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,920 Just being able to have, like, a more fluid kind of environment where you can just move 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:58,320 things around, draw whatever you need, just, yeah, more flexibility, and not be restricted 12 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,480 to, like, a mouse and keyboard. 13 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,800 So in a previous video, we actually set the iPad up in a different room. 14 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,680 Do you want to edit in that booth, or do I have to set this desk up? 15 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:16,960 That booth's cold. Final Cut Pro on the iPad is a big deal, showing just how Apple is committing to the Pro in 16 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:21,760 iPad Pro, because that's basically what you'll need to run it as it requires an M-Series 17 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,080 You also have the most experience with Final Cut, I think, here, correct? 18 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:33,000 Probably. It's not just a radical shift in form factor either, because Apple priced this at $7 a 19 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,320 month, or $70 for a year. 20 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:39,360 Ugh. Alright, let's see if this justifies the cost. 21 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:44,520 See, I can get you 10 gig Ethernet. Wait, how am I going to plug this into a monitor? 22 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:51,400 The monitor has a daisy chain port. Where do I get the, um... You have access to the server in the files app. 23 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,840 So if you go, there's one down there. All footage. 24 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,840 Content unavailable. Okay, so what we do is we eject the drive, and then you just reconnect it. 25 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,120 So it's the server's fault. Always the server's fault. 26 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,520 I'm like literally dumbfounded. The folder works on a Mac. 27 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:12,640 There's all the files. The one folder that's not showing up on this iPad is the footage folder. 28 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:15,880 So I guess we'll ingest it manually. Okay, so we fixed the folder. 29 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,320 It just had a weird symbol in the folder name. Yeah, that sounds... 30 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,320 Okay, so we got to import the footage. Alright, let's do it. 31 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,920 Ah. I don't think it's running off the files off the server. 32 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:28,960 I think it's trying to copy them over. Yep, that's what's happening. 33 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,600 How much storage is on this one? Oh no. 128? 34 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,600 That is not enough. Uh. 35 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:41,520 I need to get a different iPad. So this iPad is also an M1 iPad Pro, but this one has a terabyte of storage. 36 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,240 The price difference... Staggering. 37 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,440 Oh, s***. It's like, it doesn't support it. 38 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:55,680 It's an MXF? Uh-huh. It's funny because MXF, in theory, should be recognized on most professional editing 39 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,680 software. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that is frustrating. 40 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,880 That is really dumb. It's literally called material exchange format. 41 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,600 Let's do what it transcended to ProRes. ProRes might be the best bet. 42 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:14,200 So essentially to even be able to edit with an R workflow, the ingest procedure is 43 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:20,160 just completely unworkable because we have to re-encode every clip on a Mac. 44 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:27,760 Just use a Mac, then. It took the better part of the day just to get Mark set out to edit on the iPad. 45 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:33,560 Things are not looking good. Something about this experience feels familiar. 46 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:40,920 It reminds me of when Final Cut 10 came out. Back in 2011, most of the video production industry was using the original Final Cut 47 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:47,840 Pro, both Mark and I were. But it was an old 32-bit relic incapable of handling all the new digital codecs that 48 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:55,440 were emerging at the time. Us editors were all eagerly waiting for something new, and that's exactly what we got, Final 49 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,440 Cut Pro 10. The new Final Cut Pro has a completely different final cut. 50 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:05,600 It was a disaster. Apparently, it's so different from the last version of Final Cut video and film editors 51 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,600 all over Hollywood having a very hard time adjusting to it, okay? 52 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:14,400 I noticed it was incredibly difficult to use at the start, going in with the mindset 53 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,560 of any other NLE that existed up until that point. 54 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,520 It required a complete re-think of how you interacted with something as fundamental 55 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:28,160 as the timeline. If you understand it, it's great, better than Premiere even. 56 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:33,440 Then I gave it a shot, timed myself for a few edits, and lo and behold, it was a lot 57 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,680 faster. How long did it take to get to that point? At that point. 58 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:42,840 It doesn't bode well for the iPad's version of Final Cut Pro to be ready for professional 59 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:47,040 editors. This new version of Final Cut does feel like a departure. 60 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,400 If you're used to the Mac version, you'll find yourself a little lost. 61 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,520 The media pain, for instance, is on the right side of the screen instead of the left on 62 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,520 a Mac. But this version of Final Cut is nicely optimized for the touch screen. 63 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,720 In fact, the best features are because of it. 64 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:09,640 The one cool feature that really stood out to me was the skimming tool for touch. 65 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,480 This is genius for editing on iPad or any type of touch screen. 66 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:19,040 Having a built-in jog dial that you can open and collapse, it worked great. 67 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:27,280 The other thing is the markup for clips, being able to draw things and animate with the pen. 68 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:34,200 I use that multiple times. Being able to highlight something on a page is probably the coolest thing. 69 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,800 So you've been editing on Final Cut this video. How is it? 70 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,400 I was going to swear at you as a joke. 71 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,400 Not good. Really? Yeah. 72 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,960 I was a lot more optimistic than I should have been. How so? 73 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,080 To be honest, Jonathan, it's more half-baked than a subway cookie. 74 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:05,320 It's missing a lot of essential features like search for clips. 75 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:13,320 I can organize by name or date or whatever, but that's it. 76 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,920 Try sorting by a list. Can you make it a list? 77 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,520 There's got to be a list view. 78 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,640 There's no list view. There's a list view in files. 79 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:31,840 Why wouldn't there be a list view here? I really assume that you're just wanting to edit iPhone videos with this. 80 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:35,040 This is a nightmare. 81 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,680 Sometimes you can only do certain things with a mouse and keyboard. 82 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:45,520 Sometimes you can only do certain things with touching a pencil. I want to be able to take this with me and just go anywhere. 83 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:53,320 And I can't if I'm connected to this. The whole idea of flexibility of working anywhere, Final Cut Pro and iPad actually makes it more 84 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,600 restrictive. So you have to sit at a desk. 85 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:03,160 If you want to edit anything, really. 86 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,960 That looks grayish. That looks gray? Yeah. 87 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:13,000 You have a vectorscope. Amazing. I've never seen a vectorscope without a skin tone line. 88 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:18,120 Okay, let's all try it. Where are we on a spectrum here of... 89 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:25,840 I wish you could make the audio meters bigger. 90 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:31,720 It's so tiny. It doesn't tell you what the decibel level is. 91 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,080 You can scale to fill a clip in two separate ways. 92 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,800 In the crop menu or in the scale menu. 93 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:48,280 Why? They do have three dots up here that gives you access to video tutorials. 94 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,280 But you have to pay for it. Okay, okay, Mark, you've said enough. 95 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,640 To be fair to this version of Final Cut, the project we gave Mark is a complex one, full 96 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:02,360 of demanding sequences using many microphones plugged into our heavy and professional cameras. 97 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,080 They record eight tracks of audio per clip. 98 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:11,000 This causes many headaches because Mark can only manually mute one track of audio at a 99 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,760 time on the timeline per clip. Yeah. 100 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:20,920 Yeah, they actually made it worse, like significantly worse, significantly worse than Premiere. 101 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,200 All the moment that I discovered the audio issue, I was like, okay, this is going to 102 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,360 take a lot more time now, just because of all the extra work I'd have to do for every 103 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,360 single clip. 104 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,560 Because of all these glitches, this project is taking a lot longer than it should. 105 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:38,600 In fact, it took so long, Reddit was asking where we went. 106 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:44,080 The simple answer was this dang thing. Worse still, we couldn't even finish the video on the iPad because of the way it handles 107 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,880 color and audio. How's it going? 108 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,600 It's going. Whoa, what do you do in there? I have a proposal for you. 109 00:08:51,600 --> 00:09:02,400 A proposal? Yes. Instead of finishing this Final Cut Pro project in Final Cut Pro, I could finish it in Final 110 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,880 Cut Pro. Oh, like the computer one. 111 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,440 What's the big obstacle? Audio, really. 112 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:17,480 It works, but I'm only getting it out of one ear, and I have to use this DAC, and it's 113 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:23,360 a bit of a nightmare. It's not going to be a video edited fully on an iPad, but it's going to be fully edited 114 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:29,360 on Final Cut Pro. I mean, we've got to get the video done. 115 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,680 It's already been a while. Two weeks. So let's, sure. 116 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:41,280 It's 90% there. It gives you the ability to do these things, but then it takes away the one thing that 117 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,640 you need to make it actually work the way you want it to. 118 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,760 So as a result, it just slows the whole process down. 119 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,760 Oh, it's bouncing. 120 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,760 Okay. Yeah. Wow. 121 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,920 It even keeps all of my in and out points. 122 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:02,920 Oh, I wonder. Can I? 123 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:11,920 Can I? I deleted it. 124 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:18,440 I feel kind of bad putting Mark up to this. Despite knowing the history, I thought that this version of Final Cut would be a lot farther 125 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,960 along than DaVinci Resolve even, which when I tried earlier this year, I only attempted 126 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,680 to edit a simple short. Who do you think this is for? 127 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:33,360 I think this is for social media producers. Do you think it would be, is even good for them? 128 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:40,160 If you're coming in blind, you might have a better experience than I had. 129 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:46,120 And that's probably the best way to get into this. While Mark has been editing, I've been playing around with the iPad version of Logic Pro 130 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:52,200 that was launched alongside Final Cut. I've never even touched the Mac version of the app before, so I have nothing to be 131 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:59,000 frustrated about. This feels like a big step up from GarageBand that introduces me to more advanced audio 132 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,600 concepts. The question is though, how long before I need even more capability? 133 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,320 And will the iPad version be able to provide that in time? 134 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:12,840 I'm being hypercritical, obviously, because I just got through editing a Mac Address 135 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,920 video on an iPad. How much slower is it? 136 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,320 Like by what factor, how much slower is it? 137 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,320 Nine to one. It takes nine times longer. 138 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:30,120 Yeah. I'm still hopeful. It could get better, you know, just like Final Cut 10 when it first got released. 139 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:35,040 It did get better, and this could get better. Okay, last question. 140 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:41,040 Does Final Cut Pro for the iPad Pro make the iPad Pro Pro? 141 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:46,880 No. Thanks, Mark, for editing that video on the iPad. 142 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:52,280 If you think that a tablet is the next foray for professional work, give this video a like. 143 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,800 And if you missed the video that we made, you might as well subscribe. 144 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,720 I'm curious in the comments below how long you think it's going to take for Final Cut 145 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,920 to catch up.