WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:05.520 I love it when a big company falls behind in a product category because it 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:10.000 means they have to release a good product at a good price in order to 00:00:07.520 --> 00:00:15.360 catch up. And that's exactly what the Corsair Saber V2 Pro looks like it's 00:00:12.719 --> 00:00:20.000 going to be. It's finally a high-end gaming mouse uh with some really 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:24.960 impressive specs at a price that doesn't make me want to launch a Tuxio into the 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:30.800 sun. Inside this very small and light box, we have our mouse with a little 00:00:26.560 --> 00:00:32.640 sleeve. We have our dongle with a like a 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:39.040 belt clip. I don't think I've ever seen this. We also have our 6 foot type A to 00:00:36.800 --> 00:00:45.280 C USB cable. It's a pretty nice quality cable braided. Even has the yellow USB 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:48.480 uh connectors. You got to pay extra for that. Like Razer was paying extra to 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:56.399 have green. Other than that, we have a warranty guide. We have a alcohol pad 00:00:52.000 --> 00:01:00.079 because you also get grip tape and extra 00:00:56.399 --> 00:01:01.359 size glide skates. That's actually kind 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:08.000 of sick cuz the first thing that's going to wear out and maybe the only thing that's going to wear out uh is your 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:10.240 glide skates on this bottom. And here's 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:13.360 larger ones for extra smooth performance. 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:19.280 Interesting that they don't have the larger ones pre-installed. I would guess that's because of weight. They're trying 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:22.880 to keep this thing at 36 g. That's about as light as you can get for a regular 00:01:20.960 --> 00:01:27.759 retail gaming mouse, especially one without a honeycomb uh design. That's 00:01:26.080 --> 00:01:33.280 truly impressive, especially because it doesn't feel super flimsy. Um although 00:01:30.960 --> 00:01:37.680 it does feel exceptionally light. The nice thing is that on paper at least, it 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:41.200 doesn't look like there was any major compromises in the performance of this 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:45.759 mouse to get to that weight. This is an 8000Hz polling rate mouse uh with a 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:52.960 fairly high class sensor with the Corsair Marksman Sensor up to 33,000 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:55.600 DPI, 750 IPS and 50gs of acceleration. 00:01:52.960 --> 00:01:58.159 So, a pretty high caliber of sensor. Since we're already on the bottom, you 00:01:56.720 --> 00:02:01.920 can see the glide pads around the sensor. On the top, uh I will be 00:02:00.320 --> 00:02:05.280 swapping out for these bigger, chunkier ones later once I have a desk pad. So, I 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:10.080 don't want to scratch these, make them less good. On the side, we have two 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:13.200 buttons. Oh, those feel bad. Those feel really bad. There's like mush and click 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:18.959 at the same time. It's kind of impressive that they did that. There's also this little uh printed design. I 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:24.239 think that's fine. Uh puts a little bit of personality on this mouse. On the 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:27.599 top, we have our clicks. 00:02:24.239 --> 00:02:30.319 Medium travel. Uh not too loud. Those 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:35.519 feel totally fine across the pressing spectrum. Our scroll wheel. It's pretty 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:38.640 familiar to like a Logitech style clicky actual clicking of it. There's not much 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:43.680 clicking to the mouse wheel, but I actually like that on a gaming mouse. I don't need a ton of tactility there. I 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:47.040 just want to know I pressed it. And these switches, although there's not a 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:50.560 ton of information, are rated for up to 100 million clicks, which is plenty. On 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:56.080 the front, we have our type-C charging. This mouse works both in wired and 00:02:53.519 --> 00:03:00.080 wireless over the dongle, but there is no Bluetooth mode, which is fine. You 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:03.120 probably shouldn't be using your gaming mice in a Bluetooth mode anyway, but 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:09.840 sometimes it's nice to have that flexibility. Other than that, we have our off and presumably wired mode and 00:03:07.440 --> 00:03:13.760 then wireless on switch on the bottom and nothing else. This is a very bare 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:17.440 bones mouse. But if you're buying a mouse for competitive FPS's, that's kind 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:22.720 of what you want. You don't want a ton of buttons. You don't want a ton of features. Uh unless you're some kind of 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:27.200 sicko uh that really wants that extra weight and features and stuff, but 00:03:24.720 --> 00:03:33.519 that's not what this category is. What it is is built for speed, not longevity. 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:40.080 This has a 210 mAh battery, which Corsair claims is good for 70 hours at 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:43.440 1,000 Hz or 16 hours at 8,000 Hz. I'm 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:45.440 not the biggest believer in uh going to 00:03:43.440 --> 00:03:49.120 8,000 hertz yet. There's other limitations that I think are more 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:52.799 important, especially because if you're using things at 8,000, you're actually 00:03:50.640 --> 00:03:56.159 requiring more of your CPU uh which could presumably, especially in an 00:03:54.159 --> 00:04:00.959 esports game, uh limit the performance you get in game. uh which would be more 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:04.879 important than you know a sub 1 millisecond difference. And then there's 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:10.000 other parts of a mouse that make your input latency much higher than a th000 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:12.480 hertz to 8,000 hz pulling rate. So we can test that out. See if you feel the 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:19.280 difference. For now I'm going to install these glide skates while someone else tells you what our sponsor PIA. 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Uh, we think 00:04:55.360 --> 00:05:03.520 we've discovered what it's for. It's so you can clip it onto your desk pad. Uh, 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:07.759 don't know how I feel about that to be honest. Uh, if you have any cable 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:11.840 tension, it's going to lift it up. I don't think I've ever really had the 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:13.120 issue of my dongle going away from where 00:05:11.840 --> 00:05:17.520 I need it. And if I did, I could just like tape it to my desk. I don't I feel 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:21.919 like this is a solution in search of a problem, but certainly not a 00:05:19.440 --> 00:05:26.080 dealbreaker. The good news is you don't need to download software. In fact, the 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:30.000 IQ software will apparently not even work with this mouse. You got to go to 00:05:27.440 --> 00:05:33.840 the web hub, which is a great trend in gaming mice I fully support. I don't 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:40.639 want to have stupid software on my desktop. I want to configure my mouse, get it all ready, and away we go. The 00:05:38.479 --> 00:05:45.440 one issue is that this mouse doesn't have like a DPI switch or a profile 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:49.039 switch button. So, it's a little more complicated to switch between settings, 00:05:47.280 --> 00:05:53.919 which isn't a big deal for someone like me who gets it set and forgets. In our 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:57.840 software, we can assign our different buttons. I like the way we are looking 00:05:56.080 --> 00:06:00.800 right now. We can change our DPI settings. I know I want 800 and I don't 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:05.680 want to be able to switch between them. So, that's easy. We can also assign 00:06:02.880 --> 00:06:09.120 macros, which uh is not my thing. We can swap between our profiles as well as our 00:06:07.520 --> 00:06:13.039 other devices. And then enter device settings. We can change our polling 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:18.479 rate. We're doing a ShortCircuit. 8,000 baby. Sleep time. Check our firmware. 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:23.680 Firmware update. Oh, I do have a firmware update. It's a fairly bare 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:28.319 bones amount of control, but for me, that's all I really need. 00:06:26.080 --> 00:06:32.960 Give it a pass. Let's play some freaking games. First impressions with the 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:36.960 extra-large glide skates and the super lightweight. This is a very smooth 00:06:34.960 --> 00:06:43.600 experience. It feels very easy to whip around. Uh, fairly responsive. Um, this 00:06:41.520 --> 00:06:48.960 is where we get to the part of the video that might be a little bit of a bummer. 00:06:45.840 --> 00:06:51.520 Our Labs testing tested the latency of 00:06:48.960 --> 00:06:58.160 this mouse, both overwired and 2.4 GHz dongle, at around 9 milliseconds. And if 00:06:56.080 --> 00:07:00.960 you're not super into gaming mice, that might not sound that bad cuz that's 00:06:59.440 --> 00:07:05.520 faster than, you know, most Bluetooth mice at 12 milliseconds. But compared to 00:07:02.960 --> 00:07:11.759 sort of what is the gold standard of sub 1 millisecond uh input latency, that's 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:17.199 uh not so good. And when I looked into the issue, it seems to be actually a 00:07:14.400 --> 00:07:22.000 Corsair uh defined one where basically they were having double click issues. Uh 00:07:19.280 --> 00:07:26.800 and so they made them debounce time 8 milliseconds to prevent double clicking 00:07:24.400 --> 00:07:32.000 or smash clicking. Uh but that means that there's 9 milliseconds of click 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:36.319 latency, which is pretty much a fail in my opinion on, you know, quote unquote 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:39.680 high-end gaming mice. Apparently, they are aware of the issue and they are 00:07:37.840 --> 00:07:42.400 going to add a firmware update where you can turn down the debounce time. But 00:07:41.520 --> 00:07:48.000 then I wonder if we're going to get double click issues. It just seems like 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:50.240 a big flub on an otherwise pretty 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:55.919 freaking sweet mouse. We shot a video recently on LT testing how much input 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:59.759 latency affects gaming performance. And 00:07:55.919 --> 00:08:01.120 I expected it to be, you know, 10 to 50 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:06.160 milliseconds, somewhere in there. That's how much input latency you need to add before it's going to affect your gaming 00:08:03.520 --> 00:08:10.240 performance. What we found uh was that at above three milliseconds of added 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:15.039 input latency, you're going to start to see a performance dip in above average 00:08:12.479 --> 00:08:20.240 gamers. So that means you go from, you know, your 1 millisecond gold standard 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:22.000 to 9 milliseconds on this. That's 8 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:25.840 milliseconds above the gold standard. That's enough that it might genuinely 00:08:24.080 --> 00:08:29.840 affect your performance. So that's a huge bummer. When you're buying a gaming 00:08:28.479 --> 00:08:34.240 peripheral that's supposed to help you be as good as you can be at gaming, 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:38.240 there is already a built-in disadvantage to this one. And it's especially a 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:41.519 bummer because this mouse comes in at $99. 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:45.279 That's a little bit more than mid-range mice. And I'm often been recommending 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:49.200 the Keyron M series, which is cheaper than this mouse. But for a big 00:08:46.640 --> 00:08:54.560 corporation with a mouse at this weight category, with this feature set, 100 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:56.399 bucks is not such a bad deal. But until 00:08:54.560 --> 00:08:59.600 they fix that input latency problem, I don't think this is something I can I 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:04.080 can recommend. I think it feels good in the hand. Pretty similar to the Logitech 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:08.160 Superlite 2C. A little bit smaller than kind of the most flagship gaming mice. 00:09:06.560 --> 00:09:14.959 The build quality is good. The buttons feel pretty good outside of the side buttons with that glossy mushy click, 00:09:12.160 --> 00:09:19.760 but that responsiveness is is is enough to make this not the mouse you should 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:23.600 spend 100 bucks on. Uh at least not until Corsair fixes it. if they do, and 00:09:21.839 --> 00:09:28.480 you can't buy stuff on the promise that it might be fixed one day. One thing I 00:09:25.920 --> 00:09:32.800 found in my research, uh, thanks to Tech PowerUp, is there is a mouse that is 00:09:30.880 --> 00:09:37.120 very similar to this. It's 15 bucks cheaper than this and doesn't have that 00:09:34.959 --> 00:09:42.320 8 milliseconds added input latency from the debounce setting, and that is the 00:09:38.880 --> 00:09:45.360 Dare you A950 Wing. Very similar shapes, 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:48.800 high-end PixArt sensor, 8000Hz polling 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:50.240 rate. Uh, but it's actually going to be 00:09:48.800 --> 00:09:53.200 good. Uh, which is kind of nice when you're spending any amount of money on 00:09:51.839 --> 00:09:57.120 anything. You kind of want that thing to be good, just like you want my 00:09:55.600 --> 00:10:00.240 conclusions to be good, the ones that lead you to their next video. If you 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:06.240 like mice, why don't you check out the time I unbox the Keyron M5. It is a 00:10:03.040 --> 00:10:08.240 vertical mouse uh with all these gaming 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:12.399 features, but it'll give you an idea of how good the rest of the Keyron lineup 00:10:10.160 --> 00:10:15.600 is. For the price, I don't think it can be me right now.