1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,520 I love it when a big company falls behind in a product category because it 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:10,000 means they have to release a good product at a good price in order to 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:15,360 catch up. And that's exactly what the Corsair Saber V2 Pro looks like it's 4 00:00:12,719 --> 00:00:20,000 going to be. It's finally a high-end gaming mouse uh with some really 5 00:00:17,359 --> 00:00:24,960 impressive specs at a price that doesn't make me want to launch a Tuxio into the 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:30,800 sun. Inside this very small and light box, we have our mouse with a little 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:32,640 sleeve. We have our dongle with a like a 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:39,040 belt clip. I don't think I've ever seen this. We also have our 6 foot type A to 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:45,280 C USB cable. It's a pretty nice quality cable braided. Even has the yellow USB 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:48,480 uh connectors. You got to pay extra for that. Like Razer was paying extra to 11 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:56,399 have green. Other than that, we have a warranty guide. We have a alcohol pad 12 00:00:52,000 --> 00:01:00,079 because you also get grip tape and extra 13 00:00:56,399 --> 00:01:01,359 size glide skates. That's actually kind 14 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:08,000 of sick cuz the first thing that's going to wear out and maybe the only thing that's going to wear out uh is your 15 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:10,240 glide skates on this bottom. And here's 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,360 larger ones for extra smooth performance. 17 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:19,280 Interesting that they don't have the larger ones pre-installed. I would guess that's because of weight. They're trying 18 00:01:16,799 --> 00:01:22,880 to keep this thing at 36 g. That's about as light as you can get for a regular 19 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:27,759 retail gaming mouse, especially one without a honeycomb uh design. That's 20 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:33,280 truly impressive, especially because it doesn't feel super flimsy. Um although 21 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:37,680 it does feel exceptionally light. The nice thing is that on paper at least, it 22 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:41,200 doesn't look like there was any major compromises in the performance of this 23 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:45,759 mouse to get to that weight. This is an 8000Hz polling rate mouse uh with a 24 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:52,960 fairly high class sensor with the Corsair Marksman Sensor up to 33,000 25 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:55,600 DPI, 750 IPS and 50gs of acceleration. 26 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:58,159 So, a pretty high caliber of sensor. Since we're already on the bottom, you 27 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,920 can see the glide pads around the sensor. On the top, uh I will be 28 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,280 swapping out for these bigger, chunkier ones later once I have a desk pad. So, I 29 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:10,080 don't want to scratch these, make them less good. On the side, we have two 30 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:13,200 buttons. Oh, those feel bad. Those feel really bad. There's like mush and click 31 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:18,959 at the same time. It's kind of impressive that they did that. There's also this little uh printed design. I 32 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:24,239 think that's fine. Uh puts a little bit of personality on this mouse. On the 33 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:27,599 top, we have our clicks. 34 00:02:24,239 --> 00:02:30,319 Medium travel. Uh not too loud. Those 35 00:02:27,599 --> 00:02:35,519 feel totally fine across the pressing spectrum. Our scroll wheel. It's pretty 36 00:02:32,879 --> 00:02:38,640 familiar to like a Logitech style clicky actual clicking of it. There's not much 37 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:43,680 clicking to the mouse wheel, but I actually like that on a gaming mouse. I don't need a ton of tactility there. I 38 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:47,040 just want to know I pressed it. And these switches, although there's not a 39 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:50,560 ton of information, are rated for up to 100 million clicks, which is plenty. On 40 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:56,080 the front, we have our type-C charging. This mouse works both in wired and 41 00:02:53,519 --> 00:03:00,080 wireless over the dongle, but there is no Bluetooth mode, which is fine. You 42 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,120 probably shouldn't be using your gaming mice in a Bluetooth mode anyway, but 43 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:09,840 sometimes it's nice to have that flexibility. Other than that, we have our off and presumably wired mode and 44 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:13,760 then wireless on switch on the bottom and nothing else. This is a very bare 45 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,440 bones mouse. But if you're buying a mouse for competitive FPS's, that's kind 46 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:22,720 of what you want. You don't want a ton of buttons. You don't want a ton of features. Uh unless you're some kind of 47 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:27,200 sicko uh that really wants that extra weight and features and stuff, but 48 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:33,519 that's not what this category is. What it is is built for speed, not longevity. 49 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:40,080 This has a 210 mAh battery, which Corsair claims is good for 70 hours at 50 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:43,440 1,000 Hz or 16 hours at 8,000 Hz. I'm 51 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:45,440 not the biggest believer in uh going to 52 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:49,120 8,000 hertz yet. There's other limitations that I think are more 53 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:52,799 important, especially because if you're using things at 8,000, you're actually 54 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:56,159 requiring more of your CPU uh which could presumably, especially in an 55 00:03:54,159 --> 00:04:00,959 esports game, uh limit the performance you get in game. uh which would be more 56 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:04,879 important than you know a sub 1 millisecond difference. And then there's 57 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:10,000 other parts of a mouse that make your input latency much higher than a th000 58 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:12,480 hertz to 8,000 hz pulling rate. So we can test that out. See if you feel the 59 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:19,280 difference. For now I'm going to install these glide skates while someone else tells you what our sponsor PIA. 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We've plugged our dongle in. Uh, we think 70 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:03,520 we've discovered what it's for. It's so you can clip it onto your desk pad. Uh, 71 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:07,759 don't know how I feel about that to be honest. Uh, if you have any cable 72 00:05:05,759 --> 00:05:11,840 tension, it's going to lift it up. I don't think I've ever really had the 73 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,120 issue of my dongle going away from where 74 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:17,520 I need it. And if I did, I could just like tape it to my desk. I don't I feel 75 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:21,919 like this is a solution in search of a problem, but certainly not a 76 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:26,080 dealbreaker. The good news is you don't need to download software. In fact, the 77 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:30,000 IQ software will apparently not even work with this mouse. You got to go to 78 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:33,840 the web hub, which is a great trend in gaming mice I fully support. I don't 79 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:40,639 want to have stupid software on my desktop. I want to configure my mouse, get it all ready, and away we go. The 80 00:05:38,479 --> 00:05:45,440 one issue is that this mouse doesn't have like a DPI switch or a profile 81 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:49,039 switch button. So, it's a little more complicated to switch between settings, 82 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:53,919 which isn't a big deal for someone like me who gets it set and forgets. In our 83 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,840 software, we can assign our different buttons. I like the way we are looking 84 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,800 right now. We can change our DPI settings. I know I want 800 and I don't 85 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:05,680 want to be able to switch between them. So, that's easy. We can also assign 86 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:09,120 macros, which uh is not my thing. We can swap between our profiles as well as our 87 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:13,039 other devices. And then enter device settings. We can change our polling 88 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:18,479 rate. We're doing a ShortCircuit. 8,000 baby. Sleep time. Check our firmware. 89 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:23,680 Firmware update. Oh, I do have a firmware update. It's a fairly bare 90 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:28,319 bones amount of control, but for me, that's all I really need. 91 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:32,960 Give it a pass. Let's play some freaking games. First impressions with the 92 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:36,960 extra-large glide skates and the super lightweight. This is a very smooth 93 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:43,600 experience. It feels very easy to whip around. Uh, fairly responsive. Um, this 94 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:48,960 is where we get to the part of the video that might be a little bit of a bummer. 95 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:51,520 Our Labs testing tested the latency of 96 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:58,160 this mouse, both overwired and 2.4 GHz dongle, at around 9 milliseconds. And if 97 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,960 you're not super into gaming mice, that might not sound that bad cuz that's 98 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:05,520 faster than, you know, most Bluetooth mice at 12 milliseconds. But compared to 99 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:11,759 sort of what is the gold standard of sub 1 millisecond uh input latency, that's 100 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:17,199 uh not so good. And when I looked into the issue, it seems to be actually a 101 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:22,000 Corsair uh defined one where basically they were having double click issues. Uh 102 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:26,800 and so they made them debounce time 8 milliseconds to prevent double clicking 103 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:32,000 or smash clicking. Uh but that means that there's 9 milliseconds of click 104 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:36,319 latency, which is pretty much a fail in my opinion on, you know, quote unquote 105 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:39,680 high-end gaming mice. Apparently, they are aware of the issue and they are 106 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,400 going to add a firmware update where you can turn down the debounce time. But 107 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:48,000 then I wonder if we're going to get double click issues. It just seems like 108 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:50,240 a big flub on an otherwise pretty 109 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:55,919 freaking sweet mouse. We shot a video recently on LT testing how much input 110 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:59,759 latency affects gaming performance. And 111 00:07:55,919 --> 00:08:01,120 I expected it to be, you know, 10 to 50 112 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:06,160 milliseconds, somewhere in there. That's how much input latency you need to add before it's going to affect your gaming 113 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:10,240 performance. What we found uh was that at above three milliseconds of added 114 00:08:08,319 --> 00:08:15,039 input latency, you're going to start to see a performance dip in above average 115 00:08:12,479 --> 00:08:20,240 gamers. So that means you go from, you know, your 1 millisecond gold standard 116 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:22,000 to 9 milliseconds on this. That's 8 117 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:25,840 milliseconds above the gold standard. That's enough that it might genuinely 118 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:29,840 affect your performance. So that's a huge bummer. When you're buying a gaming 119 00:08:28,479 --> 00:08:34,240 peripheral that's supposed to help you be as good as you can be at gaming, 120 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:38,240 there is already a built-in disadvantage to this one. And it's especially a 121 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:41,519 bummer because this mouse comes in at $99. 122 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:45,279 That's a little bit more than mid-range mice. And I'm often been recommending 123 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:49,200 the Keyron M series, which is cheaper than this mouse. But for a big 124 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:54,560 corporation with a mouse at this weight category, with this feature set, 100 125 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:56,399 bucks is not such a bad deal. But until 126 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:59,600 they fix that input latency problem, I don't think this is something I can I 127 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:04,080 can recommend. I think it feels good in the hand. Pretty similar to the Logitech 128 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:08,160 Superlite 2C. A little bit smaller than kind of the most flagship gaming mice. 129 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:14,959 The build quality is good. The buttons feel pretty good outside of the side buttons with that glossy mushy click, 130 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:19,760 but that responsiveness is is is enough to make this not the mouse you should 131 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:23,600 spend 100 bucks on. Uh at least not until Corsair fixes it. if they do, and 132 00:09:21,839 --> 00:09:28,480 you can't buy stuff on the promise that it might be fixed one day. One thing I 133 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:32,800 found in my research, uh, thanks to Tech PowerUp, is there is a mouse that is 134 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:37,120 very similar to this. It's 15 bucks cheaper than this and doesn't have that 135 00:09:34,959 --> 00:09:42,320 8 milliseconds added input latency from the debounce setting, and that is the 136 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:45,360 Dare you A950 Wing. Very similar shapes, 137 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:48,800 high-end PixArt sensor, 8000Hz polling 138 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,240 rate. Uh, but it's actually going to be 139 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:53,200 good. Uh, which is kind of nice when you're spending any amount of money on 140 00:09:51,839 --> 00:09:57,120 anything. You kind of want that thing to be good, just like you want my 141 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:00,240 conclusions to be good, the ones that lead you to their next video. If you 142 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:06,240 like mice, why don't you check out the time I unbox the Keyron M5. It is a 143 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:08,240 vertical mouse uh with all these gaming 144 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:12,399 features, but it'll give you an idea of how good the rest of the Keyron lineup 145 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,600 is. For the price, I don't think it can be me right now.