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between all the sponsored products and the army of brands that you've never

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heard of before shopping on Amazon these days sucks especially if you're new to

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PC Building look at this I searched for graphics card and with prominent

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placement like this how could I possibly know that showkings is not a reputable

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brand of GPU I mean is the Radeon rx580

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even getting driver updates anymore not since January it's ridiculous it makes

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you wonder just how bad of a PC would you get if you just searched for each

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product category bought the first thing on the list and threw it all together I

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want to know so I'm going to find out right wait radon ampere architecture

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that's an NVIDIA ar oh man these guys are ridiculous okay sorry right now and

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here it is everything from my Wu power supply to my view Edge Monitor and

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high quality video card there is one thing missing though it's a segue oh no

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here it is to our sponsor acronis in an

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check it out using our Link in the video description let's kick things off with

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the only non-sponsored item that managed

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to top our search results or at least sort of top them because the ryzen 7

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5800 X was the only actual CPU that

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showed up when we typed in CPU it turns out the Amazon search engine is kind of

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like your Boomer Uncle offering up a selection of random entire computers

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when you search for CPU processor meanwhile does give us some sponsored

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results but the rule of the game was we had to buy the first valid result for

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the first keyword we tried so ryzen 7 5800 X it is at just $170 it's a great

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chip for the price and a solid start to what has now become an am4 Journey

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however if you want something a bit more affordable Central Processing Unit comes

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up with the 5600x which includes a wraith stealth cooler for Extra Value

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moving on to our motherboard the Asus Prime b550m a Wi-Fi 2 was sponsored and

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was the first of our many sponsored results we'll talk about what this

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sponsored tag means a little bit later but for now it's not really a problem

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while this board may not have the highest end features like PCIe Gen 5

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it's certainly a decent board and should fit perfectly into the vast majority of

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PC cases next up ddr4 RAM Nets us a

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pretty decently specked kit from oh boy

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oloy well thankfully whether you've heard of them or not they seem to be a

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perfectly cromulent memory supplier not only are they extensively reviewed on

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Amazon with this kit having almost 8,000

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ratings but Tom's Hardware ran an article a few years ago with promising

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results that is at least until they looked into support oloy describes their

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warranty as limited lifetime but doesn't

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elaborate on their website on what exactly those limits are and when Toms

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reached out they discovered that they only provide brand new replacements for

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any failed sticks for one year and after

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the third year they reserve the right to charge you for any repairs technically

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that can legally be described as a limited lifetime warranty it just

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demonstrates that ol's attitude toward customer service is less trust me bro

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and more good luck bro what about

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storage oh another good result with the crucial t500 2 TB at the top of our list

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it's got 4.7 stars with over 3200 ratings and the bad ones are mostly

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upset about DOA drives which do happen from time to time and the lack of an

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included m.2 screw though In fairness to crucial SSD mounting hardware is

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supposed to be included with your motherboard so once again I'm happy with

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Amazon search results they're they're three for four wait a second does my

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motherboard include SSD mounting hardware it's certainly not on the board

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and I don't remember seeing any accessories in here oh there they are

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yep we're good of course if you've spent more than 2 minutes on Amazon in the

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last year you knew that wasn't going to last forever so let's see our result for

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CPU Cooler ah the SE 214 XT RGB from ID

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cooling I mean I actually can't really

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fault the value here four heat pipes

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$18 that's like $450 a heat pipe and

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it's got a respectable 4.6 star rating

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with most of the complaints focusing on what I feel are insignificant issues

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like a cheap feeling back plate and uh oh bad instructions oh and not receiving

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am4 mounting hardware uh one moment

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please this looks pretty complete fan mounts am4 mounting but it looks like

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they're right there's no instructions oh

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guys you got to look inside the Box the instructions are right

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there yeah as long as you find all the pieces this is a pretty nice package at

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20 bucks though that still doesn't make it an obvious win cuz for just $15 more

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you can get a Peerless assassin and that's a really nice cooler in fact

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Amazon seems to acknowledge this because a couple results down they've got that

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one tagged as their overall pick with that said it's not like modern AMD CPUs

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need a ton of extra cooling for overclocking or anything so this could

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end up being the best bang for the buck only the results will tell and look at

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that it has addressable RGB on the fan moving on to our case whoa antech these

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guys might have had the spotlight stolen by newer players like fractal Corsair

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and fantex but personally I will always

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remember them fondly and after getting acquainted with the df700 I might just

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have some fondness today for just 90

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bucks you get five total cooling fans

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three with RGB on the front all hooked up to a nice addressable RGB fan

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controller and it's got a front panel mesh built-in cable ties a removable

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hard drive sled and while we don't get rubber grommets for our cable management

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the cutouts are rounded so you're not going to scratch or cut either yourself

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or your cables it's even got a bit of side ventilation for your power supply

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and any hard drives you want to Chuck in there very tasteful very cool what's not

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to like well individual front panel headers though that's still common in

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most cases and not all motherboards use the same layout so I actually back

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antech here someone got a dented bottom some faulty fans and lights o one person

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got a Fan Hub though was allegedly so defective it burnt not one but two

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motherboards and a power supply and as for the middling reviews most of them

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thought it was nice but a tad expensive for what it is which is fair but if you

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catch it on sale what a deal now we've just got to power the thing and that's

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where our PSU the xpg core reactor 2

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comes in this is another sponsored result and while xpg might not be

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familiar to you they are a branch of a data that has actually been around since

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2008 this fully modular 650 W 80 plus

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gold unit was just $83 which seems fine

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we haven't tested any xpg power supplies yet but the reviews all seem pretty

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decent and the community seems to like them overall and this one comes with a

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10-year warranty however and this is a big however we found quite a few

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complaints about either poor warranty in RMA support or customers receiving not

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one but two units that were Dead on Arrival so maybe you should stick with

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less sponsored more trusted Brands like EVGA or cic that wasn't an option for us

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though now these days you might be thinking 650 Watts that's a little on

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the low side but uh foreshadowing with

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this cable I'm running here let me put it this way we aren't going to be

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needing any more power than that meet the show Kings RX 580 sponsored I'm

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talking a GPU that literally isn't even getting driver updates 8 gigs of vram on

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a 256-bit bus PCI Express gen 3 oh but

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this is nice dual fans for office and

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gaming and a DVI connector for those of you out there like me who buy their

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monitors out of people's garages this has got to be remanufactured I've never

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even heard of showkings but maybe that's

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just because they're ahead of enjoyment and led the trend I've just fallen

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behind so uh settle down slap this

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7-year-old GPU in your system and uh call it a day I guess or maybe don't in

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all seriousness I can't think of a good reason to buy from these guys when there

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are so many other options out there searching for them online brings up

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almost nothing except is this brand legit posts like we couldn't even find a

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company website and most of our onear reviews here have to do with the cards

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dying over time you're honestly probably better off just buying something used on

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eBay Facebook Marketplace or our recent sponsor of scrapyard 9 Java but we

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didn't have that option and thanks to Amazon sponsored

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products here we are which I guess it's time for us to address the way it works

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is basically Sellers from around the world will place bids on specific

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keywords in order to help surface their products when you include those keywords

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in your searches generic keywords like CPU or RAM are generally more expensive

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while more specific keywords cost less and I know that most if not all of you

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watching right now are Savvy enough to not just buy the first thing you see but

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you would be surprised by how many people do Amazon claims that the

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sponsored product system helps turn browsers into buyers they also claim

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that because sponsored products only appear when in stock and include trusted

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Amazon shopping attributes that they are helping customers make informed browsing

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and buying decisions sure because when I

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buy an rx580 in 2024 I'm

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informed oh wait we did peripherals too

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oh now let's check out our peripherals I guess we'll kick things off with the Vue

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Edge cs24 FK a 24 in 1080P 165 HZ IPS

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gaming display unlike show Kings these guys even have a website we can't find

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this monitor on their website at the time of filming so that's something

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but realistically at $90 for these specs

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I don't think the product page is going to change too many people's decision if

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only the specs were the whole story the onear reviews are hating on everything

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from the awful speakers to product longevity to viewing angles to response

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times to you name it uh should we fire it up

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oh I'm going to need peripherals and there they are the gaming essentials

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from Red Dragon red dragon's one of those brands that 5 six years ago we

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were meing on their you know hardware store level quality but these days

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they've actually got some pretty decent products it's too bad that this isn't

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one of them the s113 and whatever this

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stupid thing is the s113 they're both the s113 they don't feel great but

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somehow they have 46,000 ratings that's about 10,000 more

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than when we first mentioned this combo in our why is everyone buying this

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keyboard video about three years

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ago cool if only people had watched our

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video well anyway let's try it again

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shall we it's an m601 Mouse is it though

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okay that says s 1013 all right fine I mean it's hard to

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complain for 30 bucks but I'll find a way to the monitor's credit it comes

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with a pretty nice feeling DP cable and it has dual HDMI

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inputs it's pretty good and it's light

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yeah I like the case actually that's really

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nice to fuse RGB on a $20 cooler too oh

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man this keyboard is awful don't you

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love membrane I'm not even hating on people for having only $30 to spend on a

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mouse and keyboard dude in scrapyard Wars y I ended up with what a g110 and a

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g502 for about $30 that's fine you got a budget no

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problem spend it smart having a tight budget is all the more

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reason to spend it this is not smart

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spending this is buying manufactured

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garbage speaking of buying manufactured garbage what did we pay for this uh

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something around 800 for the whole setup yeah mouse keyboard monitor $888 about

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$890 you know what's funny about that is that is about the budget of the last

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scrapyard Wars it is actually yeah you're right In fairness this is a way

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way better CPU than I got but everything else about my system absolutely smokes

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this thing 370 I had a 370 well what

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about your drive though you did not have a 2 tab SSD okay that's true but I did

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have a 256 gig SSD and a 750 GB hard

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drive unacceptable it's 2024 hard drivve suck for gaming do maternal

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1080p medium oh our 1% lows are dipping

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into like 40 territory that that's it okay we thought

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it was cuz we didn't have the display turned up to 144 HZ which is all it does

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over HDMI but that's not it it's that the frame times are so inconsistent that

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it feels laggy even though the averages are about 100 frames per second

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interesting yeah it's going as low as like 47 and then it jumps up to 80 90

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and then back down to 44 so that's why it feels like under 60 no wait 60 cuz

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it's all over the place and it looked totally fine like from someone off axis

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but yeah playing it I don't know how to explain it just feels bad well the way

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to explain it is that if you're only getting a frame in the time that it

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would take to be 40 FPS that means it's taking 20 milliseconds to deliver that

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frame it's going to feel like lag or

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like a stutter yeah but it's playable definitely

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playable not great but playable playable

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the really bad part is that was Doom internel running at 1080p medium I

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didn't even have it turned up rx580 was a great GPU Polaris was an

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outstanding value proposition

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was that was a long time ago I think realistically this is a remanufactured

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mining card so some Miner Farms

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somewhere is just literally throwing these in the dumpster and then the gpus

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are getting cut off and they're getting thrown onto new cards and then someone's

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trying to make a quick Buck on Amazon by selling them as gaming gpus and they'll

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play games but they are not the best thing that you could buy for this kind

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of money the question for me is why bother to remanufacture it like why not

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just dust it off so that it's less obvious cuz this

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looks like a new card yeah I guess that's true now it's time for some F1

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with a keyboard oh God how do I steer what are your settings I don't know what

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what's happening right now go to settings I you're going to go off the

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track right now well I can't steer plof

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ah what's going on with our keyboard let's check our settings I mean we're

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running at 100 FPS again okay well yeah turn motion blur off sure yeah yeah yeah

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but everything else is set to medium left a few lows here and there that's

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fine much better break which one's the break oh my god look I don't play a lot

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of racing games smart guy they even give you a racing line I if I don't know

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where the break button is then that's not going to help me much is it no we're

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shooting kind of late we round out of time I really want to check check out a few more games on the rx580 to see if

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it's actually any good in 2024 let's start with alen wake

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2 wow we're not getting much FPS let me

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make sure it's on like a lower setting

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720p it's UPC so it's upscaling from 720p with FSR fine R Racing off it's not

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going to do any RT it's slightly better it's still really not good especially if

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we're actually rendering closer to 720p does just have video this is just a

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cinematic the game crashed due to graphics card fault and will now exit

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your pro your progress from last checkpoint has been saved rx580 cannot

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handle mesh shaders I don't know exactly if this is the issue we're running into

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but it's probably a problem all right Allen wake 2 not so good but you know

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what it's a little older let's try Space Marine 2o that just came out all right

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you know we've got a solid 29 FP s in

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game uh 1% lows around 24 and this is

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1080p low native so we could be running 720p with some upscaling but uh it's not

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very good and I'll be honest there's not a lot going on in here um we're let's go

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fight some tyranids and see if it gets any worse it's honestly not as bad as I

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expected we're granted only getting you know 30 35 FPS still but I'm killing

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tyranids uh there's a lot going on right now and it's a solid 30 so if you're

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okay with playing space Space Marine 2o 1080p low maybe you should just buy an

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RX 580 in 2024 it's fine you know you're not

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getting the same efficiency that you'd get out of a modern card you're not

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getting the same performance that you'd get out of a modern card but it's fine I

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wouldn't have any expectations of warranty coverage on this thing either

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but it's fine I just hate seeing people

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get ripped off you know yeah like I don't want to be like oh yeah well you

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can't even game on it or whatever cuz you can you just didn't get a good deal

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good deal so overall we did find some

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good stuff I'm really happy with the case and the CPU solid choice too but

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other than that I would say maybe just ignore the Amazon sponsored items unless

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they happen to be exactly what you need anyway and while we're at it the CPU

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Cooler might be a diamond in the rough as well we're sitting at 63°

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right now now arguably this is a game

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