{"video_id":"gRDQr8lMLik","title":"ADATA SP920 SSD & Some Thoughts on Rebranding Products","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2014-05-07T14:53:29Z","duration_s":342,"segments":[{"start_s":6.839,"end_s":13.599,"text":"the Jazz mini is a beautiful and compact aluminum stand for your smartphone that","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":10.88,"end_s":19.52,"text":"even holds tablets up to 8 in Click now to learn more to begin with this is an","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":16.88,"end_s":24.68,"text":"SSD update and discussion about the practice of rebranding products as much","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":21.72,"end_s":29.32,"text":"as it is an overview of the adata sp920 SSD so let's get into why this product","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":27.039,"end_s":32.8,"text":"exists if you're like me and you've been like amp about third 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our","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":326.0,"end_s":332.63,"text":"videos it helps us out a whole bunch and as always thank you for watching and","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":329.319,"end_s":343.04,"text":"don't forget to subscribe","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"the Jazz mini is a beautiful and compact aluminum stand for your smartphone that even holds tablets up to 8 in Click now to learn more to begin with this is an SSD update and discussion about the practice of rebranding products as much as it is an overview of the adata sp920 SSD so let's get into why this product exists if you're like me and you've been like amp about third generation sandforce drives since they were shown off at computex 2013 by a data no less then you'll be disappointed to know that despite ad's close relationship with sanfor Force this isn't a sanfor force 3000 Series drive and we'll have to wait a little bit longer for that but that doesn't mean it's a bad product it's not the first time we've seen SSD manufacturers Source different controller technology and nand to make sure that their products stay competitive I mean heck even Intel has done it so ad went shopping and the sp920 actually ended up using mostly the same internal guts as the brand new performance drive from crucial the m550 so at the core of the sp920 is a Marvel 9189 controller with a crucial design firmware and either eight or 16 chips soldered to the PCB that feature micron's state-of-the-art high density 20 NM 128 GB Nan flash also present is a cluster of capacitors on the PCB that hand handle flushing data from the RAM cache to the non-volatile man flash in the event of an unexpected power loss this is a feature that is traditionally more common on Enterprise drives where an unexpected power loss is actually much less likely to occur so it's great to see it implemented on a consumer drive as well now the choice of m550 Hardware enables a data to deliver a great set of features at a very competitive price point with solid performance you get trim and active garbage ction you get AES 256-bit Hardware encryption with support for Microsoft e Drive and I mean you get like smart and adaptive thermal monitoring and protection all that good stuff but couldn't you just as easily get all this by buying a crucial m550 directly why does this product exist let's talk frankly about rebrands for a moment what's good and what's bad about them first the good things one is when they offer some kind of a tangible value ad like a longer warranty or better accessories number two is that it's easy to find on this drive and evaluate its usefulness for your needs because you can go and look at a review of one of the equivalent ones even if a site you like hasn't reviewed this exact one number three is that more competition does Drive aggressive pricing for consumers and number four is that you get long-term support for the product that is in essence backed by a very large company with a vested interest in keeping each and every customer happy I mean an example of this is something like a laptop if like e machines uh doesn't invest the R&D to keep giving you graphics card driver updates for your budget desktop it's okay because ultimately it's an NVIDIA graphics card and they're going to support it in the long term anyway but what about the bad stuff when it causes confusion because there are so many options a customer doesn't know what to buy I see that as potentially harmful but many others would argue that more competition is always better so that ties into one of the positive points number two is when a Rebrand ends up being slightly different in a way that's not very well documented in this case ad data didn't do a particularly good job of calling out that their 128 gig and 256 gig models don't perform as well as the higher capacity ones or the crucial m550 equivalents at that capacity review sites have performance numbers for each capacity broken down but adata site only lists the one tbte drive this difference in performance is honestly something that the average person wouldn't notice without benchmarking the drive and it's due to the use of fewer higher density flash chips instead of more lower density chips and it saves a bit of cost but also reduces the drive sequential right and read speeds so I see it as something that should have been called out very very clearly but the bottom line is should you buy the sp920 and the conclusion comes down to this power loss protection and class leading encryption support make this drive a super safe place to put your data and the sp920 while not the best performing drive on the market is extremely price competitive compared directly with its twin brother the m550 ad data delivers the same 7mm to 9mm adapter and three-year warranty but throws in a cronis migration software there's a key on the back of the drive and a 2 and 1 half in to 3 and 1/2 in adapter something that crucial doesn't even offer in a kit anymore so two thumbs up for those things guys like and share this video if you liked it dislike it if you disliked it and leave a comment on the lineus tech tips Forum Linked In the video description if you want to discuss this product or you have constructive criticism for me and my team also linked in the video description is a where to buy link for this product a support link with options to buy T-shirts from us give us a monthly contribution or give us a kickback whenever you buy random junk on Amazon and we'd love it if you guys checked that out if you enjoy our videos it helps us out a whole bunch and as always thank you for watching and don't forget to subscribe"}