WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.359 what's next a Kirkland Signature gaming PC I mean come on it's one thing if 00:00:04.560 --> 00:00:11.219 Amazon wants to shamelessly rip off someone's messenger bag but engineering 00:00:08.639 --> 00:00:15.360 a big screen TV is a little more complicated than cutting up someone 00:00:12.840 --> 00:00:19.859 else's turning it into a blueprint and assembling your own which is why they 00:00:17.699 --> 00:00:24.539 didn't but the Fire TV on new series appears to serve a very similar purpose 00:00:22.439 --> 00:00:28.199 it's been contract manufactured by someone hopefully we can figure out who 00:00:26.580 --> 00:00:32.700 by the end of this video and exist specifically for Amazon to compete 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:37.739 directly with its Partners offering low everyday prices and already aggressive 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:41.399 deals during promotional periods like Black Friday the only question to answer 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:45.480 before millions of you rushed out to buy one then is does it totally suck thanks 00:00:44.040 --> 00:00:49.020 to Ting mobile for sponsoring today's video Ting mobile is a customer focused 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:52.680 mobile provider with low rates and Nationwide coverage in the US almost any 00:00:51.120 --> 00:00:57.360 phone works with T-Mobile so learn more and get 25 in credit at Linus.ting.com 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:10.560 all right you got me it's not quite 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:13.740 Amazon Basics but the Fire TV 75 at 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:16.380 Johnny is still pretty basic it takes 00:01:13.740 --> 00:01:22.080 all the most important boxes 4K 60hz HDMI 2.1 with e-arc HDR with Dolby 00:01:19.500 --> 00:01:26.640 Vision support voice control with aliexa and support for pretty much any app that 00:01:25.020 --> 00:01:30.720 you'd want but if you were expecting anything more extra like ultra thin 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:34.799 bezels support for variable refresh rate or a comprehensive color calibration 00:01:32.759 --> 00:01:38.220 menu then you won't need to waste your time checking out our links down below 00:01:36.240 --> 00:01:41.880 for everyone else once you make it past the initial setup prompting you for your 00:01:39.720 --> 00:01:46.079 Amazon account regular Amazon Fire stick users will find themselves feeling very 00:01:43.979 --> 00:01:49.860 much at home you've got your main apps Amazon specifically calls out Dolby 00:01:48.060 --> 00:01:53.820 Vision support for Disney plus Netflix and Prime video and then along the top 00:01:52.259 --> 00:01:59.640 you've got a dumpster fire 00:01:55.759 --> 00:02:02.340 literally 40 of the home screen is taken 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:06.000 up by ads fortunately the navigation isn't the worst but all the stuff you 00:02:04.259 --> 00:02:10.319 care about is in this little thin bar and then the options will populate below 00:02:07.860 --> 00:02:13.379 as you navigate through one weird Quirk we ran into during testing was that 00:02:12.060 --> 00:02:18.239 picture settings weren't giving us anything other than a brightness option 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:20.400 out of the box we're not sure how or 00:02:18.239 --> 00:02:24.239 when that got fixed maybe installing some apps Force an update or something 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:29.340 but it seems okay now let's have a look at i o we've got USB type a Ethernet it 00:02:27.660 --> 00:02:33.720 doesn't say how fast but based on the fact that it's speed tested slower than 00:02:31.140 --> 00:02:37.200 the onboard Wi-Fi I don't think we'll be streaming any original quality Blu-ray 00:02:35.340 --> 00:02:40.800 rips and Plex there's a jack for the included IR receiver this is pretty nice 00:02:39.540 --> 00:02:44.640 if you don't want to have to aim your remote right at the TV you can just run 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:50.459 it off somewhere else a digital optical audio port three HDMI 2.0 ports and then 00:02:47.519 --> 00:02:56.099 a fourth HDMI 2.1 Port now you might wonder why Amazon bothered with HDMI 2.1 00:02:53.099 --> 00:02:58.019 if the panel is 60 hertz but being able 00:02:56.099 --> 00:03:02.940 to take advantage of e-arc to pass Dolby Atmos audio to your receiver or Soundbar 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:06.780 is a pretty good nice to have just like it's nice to have this sweet sweet party 00:03:04.620 --> 00:03:10.860 shirt from ltdstore.com and like it's nice to have accurate 00:03:08.700 --> 00:03:14.819 colors on your TV we're not sure where Amazon is sourcing these panels and our 00:03:12.780 --> 00:03:18.659 contact at Portrait isn't sure all right so Linus asked me to take apart the Fire 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:23.340 TV and do some digging this thing is huge so I got a hand from one of our new 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:27.360 hires and Logistics we got it apart and started searching up the backlight 00:03:24.720 --> 00:03:31.140 controllers as well as the like LCD pixel controller board and basically 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:34.560 every code we searched came back as TCL so we're pretty sure that's what we're 00:03:32.940 --> 00:03:38.760 dealing with here Amazon bought either finished TVs or at least a bunch of 00:03:36.420 --> 00:03:42.780 parts from TCL slapped their logo on the housing integrated fire stick and put it 00:03:40.920 --> 00:03:47.819 in the box and on the shelves but what I do know is that out of the box our 00:03:44.819 --> 00:03:49.620 sample was not very impressive in 00:03:47.819 --> 00:03:54.360 standard mode color accuracy hit an average Delta e of 12.6 with primary 00:03:52.500 --> 00:03:58.560 colors like red green and blue doing all right but anything in between dipping 00:03:56.459 --> 00:04:03.060 off significantly to put that in context anything over a Delta e of 2 is going to 00:04:01.260 --> 00:04:07.319 be noticeable to the human eye however putting the display into movie mode 00:04:04.920 --> 00:04:13.140 drastically improved matters we got a very decent average Delta e of 2 with a 00:04:10.019 --> 00:04:14.879 Max of five and a half not bad the main 00:04:13.140 --> 00:04:20.220 points of failure were blues and Grays while red and green were pretty spot on 00:04:16.979 --> 00:04:22.740 as for HDR accuracy again in movie mode 00:04:20.220 --> 00:04:26.639 it's not great but it's markedly improved with our average without 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:30.300 luminance error getting cut in half so if you care about watching content as it 00:04:28.620 --> 00:04:36.300 was intended to be viewed you're not going to want to have this thing in any picture mode other than movie although 00:04:34.259 --> 00:04:41.040 you still might not be getting the full experience it's not particularly bright 00:04:38.460 --> 00:04:46.620 at least in SDR we measured a peak luminance of 277 Candela per meter 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:50.460 squared for those of you unaware knits and Candela per meter squared are 00:04:48.300 --> 00:04:55.020 basically interchangeable values so unless we're talking about an enormous 00:04:52.320 --> 00:04:59.820 projection screen less than 300 nits ain't that bright and unfortunately in 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:04.500 spite of all the marketing noise made about it the HDR experience is not a 00:05:02.580 --> 00:05:10.500 whole lot better our Fire TV only reached about 430 nits Peak brightness 00:05:07.320 --> 00:05:12.479 which sounds better when compared to the 00:05:10.500 --> 00:05:16.680 peak SDR brightness we achieved but here's the thing brighter whites that 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:23.160 come at the cost of turning all the dark parts of the screen gray do not an HDR 00:05:20.280 --> 00:05:28.320 image make and the Fire TV Omni is simply not equipped for decent HDR 00:05:25.740 --> 00:05:32.039 performance the thing is modern IPS and VA type panels rely on a technology 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:36.539 called full array local dimming where the backlight shining through the panel 00:05:33.620 --> 00:05:40.860 selectively dims or boosts its light output in zones depending on the content 00:05:38.880 --> 00:05:44.039 being displayed in each zone so this thing we're looking at right here you'd 00:05:42.539 --> 00:05:47.880 want to turn down the backlight at the bottom and turn it up at the top so the 00:05:45.960 --> 00:05:50.699 stars shine nice and bright and if the significant backlight bleed in the 00:05:49.320 --> 00:05:55.259 corners and along the bottom Edge is anything to go by you won't find that 00:05:52.919 --> 00:06:01.380 technology here making this TV yet another notch in our HDR and belt and of 00:05:59.820 --> 00:06:05.639 course adding insult to injury our color accuracy was significantly worse when 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:10.340 testing HDR I say that you know it'll necessarily be 00:06:07.740 --> 00:06:14.940 noticeable the real world right 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:18.000 oh that's super annoying yeah so I don't so the stupid thing where we can only 00:06:16.620 --> 00:06:24.840 adjust the back light in the settings menu is back when it's not on a source 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:27.000 if it's absent video you can't adjust it 00:06:24.840 --> 00:06:31.440 we had a whole paragraph about how inconvenient this is because on a TV 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:35.759 where you are going to be wanting to adjust your picture settings you can't 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:39.600 be looking at content while you make your tweaks like what's the point of 00:06:37.860 --> 00:06:42.660 getting something with a Fire TV built in and then you have to go buy an NVIDIA 00:06:41.100 --> 00:06:49.800 Shield anyway so that you can actually run in the right picture profile 00:06:46.440 --> 00:06:53.220 so when contents actually playing you 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:55.560 can change what to clarify it has this 00:06:53.220 --> 00:06:59.880 Dynamic backlight feature so that will adjust the entire backlight's brightness 00:06:57.660 --> 00:07:04.500 depending on the scene but that will not help you with HDR good Lord this thing 00:07:03.180 --> 00:07:10.080 is not very bright oh my God I can't even see anything so 00:07:07.380 --> 00:07:13.020 much for the dynamic contrast or dynamic backlight so now the whole image is just 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:19.080 Gray we get HDR signal but that is not HDR 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:23.580 like all the detail in the dark parts of the scene is completely lost you can 00:07:21.840 --> 00:07:27.840 kind of get the specular highlights off of toothless's scales and stuff like 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:31.919 that but they're not bright it's not HDR they don't Sparkle like the white dragon 00:07:29.819 --> 00:07:35.280 the light Fury you're supposed to really see like glinting off of the white 00:07:33.840 --> 00:07:40.680 scales and stuff like that it's not there and what I opened this up to talk 00:07:38.099 --> 00:07:44.099 about which is color accuracy it's not overcooking greens or Reds or any of the 00:07:42.599 --> 00:07:47.880 things I would normally look for in a cheaper TV 00:07:45.780 --> 00:07:52.020 it's actually like really solid as far as the color goes I think this is just 00:07:49.979 --> 00:07:55.740 an expectations problem for Amazon if they didn't talk so much about the Dolby 00:07:53.580 --> 00:08:00.599 Vision compatibility in HDR I'd be looking at this going okay I want 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:05.280 to talk about gaming it's an LCD panel so we don't have to worry about burning 00:08:02.220 --> 00:08:06.840 but how does it actually feel 00:08:05.280 --> 00:08:11.340 well one thing I can tell you is whatever you do don't leave it in 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:15.419 anything but game mode for gaming or you're going to have a seriously bad 00:08:12.960 --> 00:08:18.680 time when it comes to input latency oh I guess I get to try that now yeah oh 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:24.060 fantastic holy bananas 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:25.979 that is horrendous I mean you guys can 00:08:24.060 --> 00:08:31.860 probably see this through the camera we don't even need a high speed camera watch this watch this look at that delay 00:08:29.280 --> 00:08:36.180 it's exactly as bad as I expected it to be based on the desktop 00:08:33.300 --> 00:08:42.300 you just cannot react to things quickly like this 00:08:37.979 --> 00:08:45.480 game oh that's so much better 00:08:42.300 --> 00:08:47.839 yeah that that feels that feels very 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:53.339 better man everything looks so dull though we 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:58.620 can try turning on their Dynamic backlight again no yeah it just really 00:08:56.640 --> 00:09:03.660 doesn't look that good for a thousand dollar TV I'm sorry like I know it's big 00:09:01.620 --> 00:09:10.380 but you still like might as well just get the TCL or the Vizio like 00:09:06.740 --> 00:09:12.540 yeah in standard picture mode which is 00:09:10.380 --> 00:09:17.360 what it comes set to default and what I'm playing in right now we measured an 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:23.339 average click to Photon latency of 139 milliseconds using our NVIDIA ldat 00:09:20.880 --> 00:09:28.800 that's not just bad that is outright unplayable in games that require precise 00:09:25.800 --> 00:09:30.180 inputs like Super Meat Boy and fixing 00:09:28.800 --> 00:09:36.480 the issue ended up being kind of confusing you see normally picture mode 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:39.000 just applies presets to color tint 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:42.959 saturation that sort of thing but here the game picture profile which a lot of 00:09:41.760 --> 00:09:47.760 the time will do stupid stuff like boosting up dark parts of the scene also 00:09:45.420 --> 00:09:52.160 enables low latency processing which puts us all the way down to an average 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:57.899 of 29 milliseconds from click to Photon that is pretty darn good now to be clear 00:09:55.500 --> 00:10:03.360 many TVs these days do have a game mode setting to help reduce latency it's just 00:09:59.899 --> 00:10:05.399 usually or at least on good TVs it's its 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:08.820 own setting and not built into the picture profile 00:10:06.779 --> 00:10:13.140 both of our tests were using CS go running at around 280 frames per second 00:10:10.920 --> 00:10:19.080 which is much faster than our 60hz panel can take advantage of and honestly 00:10:16.620 --> 00:10:23.100 um this is funny before we redid our colored measurements in movie mode we 00:10:21.839 --> 00:10:27.720 said you should just leave it in this mode because the accuracy is no different from standard but you're going 00:10:26.700 --> 00:10:32.399 to want to be flipping back between movie mode and game mode depending on 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:34.800 what you're doing although I would probably make the argument you shouldn't 00:10:33.540 --> 00:10:38.640 be flipping back and forth between either of them because you just 00:10:36.779 --> 00:10:43.920 shouldn't buy this TV which raises a pretty big question 00:10:40.820 --> 00:10:45.959 lioness why are there so many five-star 00:10:43.920 --> 00:10:50.100 reviews for this thing are you just being a hater well no offense but 00:10:48.540 --> 00:10:55.320 there's a reason that the people giving this thing 5 Star reviews are School 00:10:52.500 --> 00:11:00.120 teachers or bus drivers or lawyers or whatever else it is that they do rather 00:10:57.180 --> 00:11:04.680 than Tech reviewers I mean I don't doubt that it's a lot better than their old TV 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:08.820 that's kind of how technology goes but compared to other options that you can 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:13.620 get in this same price range like this TCL 5 series Roku TV that does have 00:11:11.640 --> 00:11:19.079 local dimming or this Vizio M series with AirPlay Chromecast variable refresh 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:23.700 rate and local dimming the Fire TV Omni really struggles to stand out I mean 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:27.480 maybe if you're really into Amazon's Special Sauce features like the 00:11:25.380 --> 00:11:32.040 microphone which thankfully includes a physical disable switch or the webcam 00:11:29.579 --> 00:11:37.019 support for video chat which is coming in a future update and AirPlay support 00:11:34.140 --> 00:11:42.720 which is also coming in a future update then I guess maybe you could kind of 00:11:40.140 --> 00:11:45.720 justify it but for my part I think it's fair to say that Kirkland probably would 00:11:44.640 --> 00:11:50.579 have done it better luck next year Amazon privacy lets you 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:54.540 buy things online using virtual cards rather than having to use your real card 00:11:52.560 --> 00:11:57.899 protecting your identity and your bank information on the internet like have 00:11:56.100 --> 00:12:00.899 you ever signed up for a free trial and then forgotten about it only to find 00:11:59.579 --> 00:12:07.680 charges on your account for a subscription service you never really wanted with privacy.com you can create a 00:12:05.160 --> 00:12:12.000 new card just 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