This is Kit. He likes to waste scammers
time. He doesn't like when nice people get taken advantage of, though. So,
Threat Locker sponsored this video where we're going to be protecting our less
techsavvy loved ones by combining our powers to create the Unscammable PC.
Not only have we changed some of the hardware to give those scammer
degenerates a tough time, but we're also going to use some of Kit's own software
that you may have seen on his channel. and some help from our friends at Threat
Locker. Okay, we're ready then, right? One important thing. You need these.
Now we're ready. Oh, wait. No, we still
need costumes. Okay. To the wardrobe.
They definitely won't see us unless we want them to, right? Okay. They will try
to pull up our webcam. Oh, perfect. So, I fit in. Yeah, there we go. We're nice
people. Don't scam us. I I'll just wear this hat. Okay. Yeah, we'll we'll be
father and son on a fishing trip. Please take me fishing, Papa. We're fishing for
scammers today, son. Let's talk through what we set up on our side. We started
with a perfectly normal gaming computer. But the thing is, that would be pretty
nice for the scammers to use. So to make it a little bit slower, more like what
your nan's running, we parked some cores and then we underclocked the rest to
make the experience feel a little more authentic and a little more frustrating.
The other hardware adjustment is you guys might have noticed our Ethernet
cable is coming out of a Raspberry Pi router that is running Zale Netm, a
network emulator that lets us mess with our network connection. I figure a lot
of our victims, maybe they don't have the best internet. Maybe they're in, you know, the rural Midwest or whatever. So,
we can in an instant apply delay, loss,
and rate control profiles that will make our connection seem crappier and again
more frustrating. Of course, none of this makes our PC unscamable. That is
where your custom software comes in. I haven't actually played around with it
yet. Can you take me on a little test drive? Yeah, I I'd love to show you. So,
we have a a free version and a premium version. The the main goal that we set
out to do, yeah, my grandparents had Alzheimer's and dementia. And no matter
how many educational videos I would have given them, or no matter how many times
I would have said, don't let someone connect to your computer, they still
would have let someone connect to your computer. So, the the main idea here uh
for our the the free software is that it
it will block remote connection tools. will not allow a scammer to connect your
computer, your computer is infected or you know your your bank account's been
hacked. So if I what you'll see in a second or all these scammers that we're
talking to are going to have us go to a website like
ultraviewer.net. Hopefully I typed that right and it's blocked. They get a
message saying if you're being instructed over the phone to hang up,
call a loved one or family member. Uh, again, the idea being no matter what,
they will not be able to connect to the computer. I think we'll have some
scammers run into this later. Okay. But our goal is to see like what other kind
of shenanigans, what other crazy things could we do to the computer to make it
unscamable. Okay. Hello. Hello. Hi
there. I'm I'm trying to help my dad set up his printer and it's not detected.
Can you please confirm your name? His name is Frank. It's his printer. Okay.
And what's your name? My name's Josh. So
Josh, can you please tell me that which printer you are using? I mean which
printer your dad is using. Yeah, it's HP. Yeah, he bought it on Facebook. I
got a good deal on Facebook marketplace. Well, we don't know if it's a good deal
if unless we know it works. It doesn't work yet. No problem, Josh. I'll fix it
for you. Oh, that'd be great. Thank you. Okay, just check the printer machine. On
the face of the machine, you will get the printer model number and it will be
show fourdigit number. So, I want to know that four-digit number. Four-digit
number. What's the face of a printer?
Oh, I've got the product number. Uh, okay. Yeah, please. Okay.
Product number is 7P S84.
No, no, no, no. It's a serial number. It's a serial number. I want to know the
model number. It's a HP. Oh,
3101. And it says HP on the front on the
face. All right. Now I can now I understand. So it's a HP laser Jet Pro
MFC3101 FPW wireless printer, right? I mean, if
if that's what you say it is. I'm not really a techie guy. I He just bought
this thing and he asked me to come help him set it up. I just have an iPhone. I
don't really I don't really do printers. Who prints anything? uh what I can do
for you I'll go ahead and I'll connect with the computer I'll diagnose it to
check that what exactly going on I need to understand your computer first and
then I can able to install the software or the drivers in that computer and
after that you can use it would that be okay yeah that that makes sense oh I I I
think I I think I see a link rescue applelet we we don't have an apple
exactly it says download you just Look at your look at
your top right corner. Are you able to see open file support?
Exactly. You just need to click on open file and once your file will open, you
will receive two requests on your screen. So you just need to click okay
and yes. It says do you want to allow this app to make changes? The no is
highlighted. Yes. Click yes. Click yes.
It says uh support representative will be with you shortly. Is that you? Yeah.
Yeah. All right. So now I'm sending you one last request. Now you just need to
click okay. So here we go. One of the following actions. Controller view
desktop. Okay. And and you're going to you're going to fix the printer, right?
Yes. All right. So Mr. Frank, Mr. Josh,
now I'm connected. And now you can see my moving cursor on your screen, right?
Okay. Yeah. Where did my picture go? I can see here your HP printer is not
showing here. It's not addited. That's the problem. That's the problem. Yeah.
No problem. So before you start the work on your computer, I just need you some
details. I can't tell if it's affecting her or not. Um, your computer's running
slow. When was the last time you clean your computer?
Clean the computer. I mean, it's got a little bit of dust on it. Does that make
it slower? Yeah, it's taking some time
to um giving a command of your computer
to open the browser, open the notepad,
but it's taking some time to taking the command. Would you say it's uh one of
the slower computers you've worked with? Yeah. Yeah, your computer is running
slow. So, Mr. Frank, now I just need
your some details. Okay. So, here we go.
I already t your first name. Can you please type your last name here? Just
text you the first name. Okay. So, Mr.
uh George, uh you are walking
somewhere. Uh you are studing. What you
what you do? I'm in lumber. I I I I work
in uh in like administration for a lumber firm. Wood. Okay. So, do you know
about the computers uh that how computer
works and how printer works? Like I
said, I just they gave me an iPhone at work and they make me use that. I I
don't I don't even use a computer at home. What would I need it for? Do you
have any security in this computer?
Well, I uh
technically no, I don't know. No. Okay,
let me explain. So, you are using computer.
Yeah. Okay. There's a C on my computer.
Is that you? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, it's me. I
set a delay to one and a half seconds. Oh, okay. Oh, your computer running
slow. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for all your
help, Rose. Rose, are you are you married? You're welcome. No, I'm not
married yet. Oh, not yet. Neither is my
son. I'm sorry. You know, Josh isn't married
either. I'm just just throwing that out. You got to bring that up right now.
Sorry. Sorry. Okay. Oh, just give me a
second. I think the internet is lost.
It looks like we She just completely lost the connection. It's so slow. It
looks like you're right around the like she just got she lost it again and she
connects back. But the delay is so awful that she probably doesn't even she just
thinks it normal or like she doesn't suspect anything. But you can see every time the screen turns black, it's when
she connects and then she gets knocked off again. How high do you have the I'm
just I'm around with delay loss and I think your internet is not working
properly. Oh. Uh, it's again and again showing that connection is lost. Uh,
here let me check. Let me check the internet. Now I'm connected. Now I'm
connected. All right. So Mr. Frank, now
I'll need to do some basic diagnosis. Okay. So I'm requesting you while I'm
diagnosing your computer and your printer, please do not touch it. I'll
leave it as it is. Okay. No, she said don't touch it. Don't touch it. No,
don't touch it. Don't touch it. And please make sure your printer will be
turned on. Okay. How do you turn on the printer? You just switch on the button.
You just switch on the button of your printer. You're awful. You deserve it.
You should be scammed. Oh, okay. What does it look like? Uh, sir, you just
need to plug the cable of your printer.
Well, there's so many different colors. Switch on. Oh. Oh. Uh, okay. Okay. The
the black cable. Exactly. Yeah, that's
that's a black cable. All right. So, Josh, now I'm transferring your call to
one of my technician J uh Jessica. Okay.
And now she will assist you. This might be like the master scammer too.
Sometimes there's like layers of people. Yeah. Hi, sir. This Jessica Samuels, how
are you? Hi Jessica. So, I'm going to do
one thing, sir. I'm going to check it out. Okay. Let me diagnose it. Okay,
give me a moment because you let me just tell you. Is that you typing? Yes, sir.
I'm the typing. Okay, it's it's really a a really slow computer. So, last time
when did you clean up and tune up your computer? Rose asked us about that. I
don't I don't think he's ever tuned up his computer. Not once. I don't clean it
either because it's a pain. This is like
the scam right here. They're going to tell us because it stopped. We've got
like big problems on our computer which you know this is no big deal here. You
can see that sir. You're some of the services part stops stop. There's a lot
of them. See that? There's a lot of them. Are we supposed to have all these services? What's natural authentication?
Oh my god. This one. Passport. You can see. You didn't put your passport in the
computer, did you, Dad? No. No. I am Am I supposed to? We're on a two second
delay right now on a dialup connection. You can see it like jolting around. Hold
on. Hold on. Sir, you know what? Your network is very fluctuating. Which
network provider you're using? Let internet. Let me check the Let me check
the cable. Let me check the cable. Okay. I was when I was getting the other
cable, it looked a little loose. Okay. Sir, you are with your friend or your
like this is my son.
Oh. Oh, God. Sir, you you're But you
didn't sound like that. I thought you both I thought you both are you both
guys are approx 20 uh been 30 to 35
years old. Sir, I think she's flattering you. Oh, that's very nice. That's so
nice of you, Jessica. In another life,
we could have been lovers. Oh, no, no,
no. I'm not doing that thing. I'm just giving you a compliment. Thank you. I
appreciate that. Okay, idea. What if you make it so slow that she disconnects and
then we run some more of the weird things on the computer? It's not quite
unscamable yet. It's just really annoying. Give me a moment, sir. Your
network is being disconnected again. Are
you living in countryside? You both guys live in countryside? Yeah, we're kind of
I work in forestry.
Oh, I think I it made it so slow I can't
connect to the to the pie.
It's to 10 seconds. So, you live with
your like father or you live alone, sir?
No, I No, I live alone. He's single. Oh,
that's nice, sir. Me, too. I'm 29 years
old and single. Wow.
Sir, I believe it's been against Stop. I'm going to do one thing. I'm going to
change this call to Rose. Okay. She she will going to go through and she going
to connect your computer. Give me a moment. So to its name uh threat locker
is detecting that each time uh there's a
there's a threat here. Basically it looks like this bat file is trying to
run each time. Hi Rose, I think there's
some problem and that's why we are not able to connect with your computer. So
can you please do one thing? Just close everything. I'll guide you another way.
Okay. Another way. Okay. Just close everything. Now just do one thing. Look
at your extreme bottom of your screen. Yeah. Click on the search bar. Okay.
Okay. And type store. Okay. Once you type a store, you will able to see
Microsoft Store on your screen. Are you able to see? Yeah. Save up to 50% on
games. South of Midnight. Is that is that right? Bestselling games. So, type
in the search bar log me in. L O G M E I
N. One word, no space. It says only
download if directed to do so by a support technician you trust. No, no,
hang on. Oh, we trust we trust Rose. I'm explaining you. Okay. Yeah. A support
representative will be with you shortly. Waiting for technician. Now I'm sending
you one more request. You just need to click allow and Okay.
I made those pop up forever. Dude, you you don't need to keep closing them cuz
they keep popping up.
Josh, I have all the details. Okay, so
now let me do some basic diagnosis to check that what exactly going on into
your computer. Okay, that sounds great.
Now Jessica will call you back after 15
to 20 minutes. So you just wait for a call back. She will call you back and
she will let you know everything. So, I think it's it's kind of a bummer, but it
is semi-normal because sometimes what they'll do is they'll pull up like task manager now. So, you as a potential
victim are like, "Oh, look. They're like technical things are transpiring.
They're fixing my There it is. Task manager just like just like you
predicted." Yeah. Now, I'm uh I'm going to keep Should I keep messing with the
connection potentially? Um, so our software Serif will run out. I only
delete it for an hour. So, I don't know what the timer is at, but at some point
it's gonna kick her off the computer, which is a We're kind of on a deadline.
So, the next part will be in 10 or 15 or 20 minutes. Whenever they call back,
they're going to say, "Well, your computer's like unreoverable unless we
pay like $800." Like, the scam will really come out. Okay, there's probably
going to be a lot of extras on this one.
LMG.gg/flat plane if you guys want to check out the exclusive behind the
scenes. Dude, I'm just like playing around with the loss and the delay and
like I'm having a blast here because every time I do something, you can
notice I can see her kind of struggling to when you put the loss high enough,
she kind of struggles to click on stuff. And so theoretically, if you wanted to
protect your family, you could just make their packet loss 50% and delay their
internet speed by 10 seconds. But that's
might not protect yourself. Your family might kill you if they ever figured it
out. Very impractical to make it unscamable. But are you there? Hi sir.
You know what? Your internet is very bad. Where you are located, sir? In the
woods. In the woods. Manitoba.
Ohio. Manitoba. Ohio. Yes. You know
what, sir? In that way, I can't help you. You're You have very bad internet
connection. I'm going to kill myself. Oh my Rose. What? What? Yes. I'm going to
kill myself, sir. Why would you ever say that? Because so you have very very slow
internet. You can see that. Well, you have fine internet and a whole life
ahead of you. Okay. I I think I think I fixed the internet though. This is
escalated very quickly. What What if we try again to fix the printer? Okay. I'm
going to do one thing. I'm going to give you a quick call back. Okay. What you
have to be do? Just turn off each and everything. Your internet, computer,
everything. Just turn it off. Okay.
Okay. We'll we'll turn it off. Okay. Bye-bye. That got very dark very fast.
What the heck was that? Have you ever heard that line before? Maybe once. I
thought she meant I'm going to kill the connection on my side. And then she
repeated herself. She's like, "No, your internet's so bad. I'm going to kill myself." Look. Is it to make us feel
bad? I maybe is this a pretty okay day for you or is this just all in the the
uh I would have liked to see a few more uh swear words but okay fair enough.
Rose and Jessica are too nice to swear. This next bit's going to be interesting
because Threat Locker, the sponsor of this video, they sent one of their cyber
heroes to our studio to make realtime changes to the configuration on our
system. So normally it would be set up so that basically it doesn't allow
anything the administrator doesn't recognize. Allow listing basically zero
trust. But we can actually show how if we want to open something we shouldn't
be opening, it'll actually go to a network admin, they will approve it or
in most cases probably not approve it. And then we should be able to allow
ourselves to be scammed even though obviously that's not how Threat Locker
would like you to set it up. We mostly focused on Threat Locker's ability to
block applications today. Also DLL files. Uh but they can block websites.
They can block access to system settings. So, if you want to make your
work computers unhackable, Threat Locker is a great tool for your toolkit. You
can check them out at the link in the video description. Should we do one more
call? Yeah. Hello, this is John Parker
from PayPal. Oh, yes. We can assist you.
We were trying to get a hold of you because you uh I got a bill. Is this the
right place to call? Uh yes, sir. You are connected with the PayPal. Like, do
you got a bill from PayPal? I I did get
a bill and it I don't know why. Could
you please again look that email which
you got over the email? Do you see any
trade ID? Could you please confirm me the last four of the trade ID? It's
LT 1337. Here I can see sir you are purchasing a
bitcoin which cost of $523.88.
That was the very reason you are getting bill from PayPal. I didn't do that. Hold
on. I I I have my I'm putting you on speaker phone cuz I got my son here. You
didn't you didn't buy any Bitcoin, right? Well, I told you about this. I
told you that my daughter wanted some Bitcoin for her birthday, remember? And
did you spend $800 on it? Can you cancel
the Bitcoin purchase, please? Of course I can. Of course I can. So you have to
open up the Chrome Google Chrome from the computer. What do we type in? You
need to type on the extreme top of the A as in
alpha, R as in Romeo, D as in David, C
as in Charlie, A as in alpha. That's a
lot of letters. Okay, so C A R D.Help.
No, no, no, no. It's a R dcare.help.
A RP care. A R D A R D A as in
R as in David.
David. David. Okay. Okay. It says to
authenticate with a code
for hold this call please to me. This is Brian Wilson and I'm the senior
supervisor of the floor. How are you? Good. We we were told to put in a code
but we no one gave us a code. Okay. So I will give you that code. You have
successfully connected. Yeah. So sir
right now you are finally connected with our PayPal server. Our server gives you
the cancellation form of PayPal. Okay. Within a moment. You want me to fill
this out? He doesn't have a cell phone. Yeah. Now you need to just start filling
out that cancellation form. Where are you from, Brian? Sir, we are located
from Salt Lake City, Utah. Our headquarter of PayPal. Oh, Salt Lake
City. That's the the Windy City, right? With the with the Golden Gate Bridge.
Okay. Service cancellation form. Your estimated waiting time 15 to 30 minutes.
Oh, you will be guided by the support staff on the call. So, you're going to
help us out. And then what it says, uh,
refund ID. You will get this fourdigit
code at your banking. I have to go to the bank. No, no, you don't have to go
to the bank. You need to simply log into your online banking. So, I think threat
locker made it so we can't go to TD Bank. Oh, okay. And he wants us I can
undo that. Let us try. Oh, it says your internet access is blocked. Firewall
software may have blocked the connection. Is this something you can
help us with? I don't really know about computers much. Unless it's one of
Unless this is one of those scams. I've been hearing about those on the
television. On the television? What? Like what you can see over the
television? Well, I bet. Well, I watch a lot of YouTube on there. You ever heard
of Lenus Tech Tips?
It's you, Lenus Tech Tips. It's you. Oh,
no. That's not me. I think you are the YouTuber Linux Tech.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He just has some good tips on there. That's
good. Downloads Chrome browser. Ah, so this is interesting. He's he thinks that
Edge is the problem. So he's going to install Edge, but threat Locker will
still block TD. Let's see. Let's see. So
thr you in toilet again. Did you install a firewall? How would I install a
firewall? Like are you using any kind of
security on your computer? Maybe that was the reason whenever you try to log
into your bank, your bank internet access was blocked you. Well, my older,
much smarter son, he was helping set something up on
the computer a couple weeks ago. Brian,
I I I don't know if this is going to work out. Hold on, sir. We are also
trying to do our level best. Just bear with me. Your level best isn't enough.
The whole computer's not on now. What did you do? What did you do? I
don't know. Just turn it on. Just turn it on. It's like it's locked or
something. Okay, the screen's back on. Did you Are you sure you didn't switch
banks? You said you were thinking of switching banks. Did you do it and forget about it? I don't know. We can
request We can request access.
This is him, by the way. Oh, that's good. They're They turn this on and they
can actually do stuff behind this. So, he's controlling the computer now.
Uh, you know what, Brian? I wonder if we just turn the computer off. It says not
to turn it off. Honestly, what else is there to do? It says do not turn off.
You got to do the one thing you always do. The one thing people tell you not to
do, but it's not working. It says your system. Don't gamble, so you gamble.
It's not updating. Don't buy crypto, you buy crypto. Let it be. Just stop
fighting, sir. I feel like he's not even trying. I don't even know what he's
doing. I've called a lot of scammers and this guy doesn't seem to be like caring
at all. So, we can What is he even doing
then? Oh, he's going to pull up the camera to see if we're actually here. I
think he's getting suspicious. Uh Brian,
once in a lifetime offer for you. Do you want my money? Oh, why I want your
money? I just get the vibe. Do uh So, do you need do you want like a bank account
or or LTT Store gift card? Uh, like you
want to give away that 500? Yeah. Do you need a $500? How about a $500? And you
can't give that to your actual son. Look sir, let it be. It's over now. Even I
know that you are a YouTuber. So, it's
done from now. Which one? What's my name? Uh-huh. Say my name. Look, I just
watch you and even I can hear my voice that Yes, that was my voice. So, I know
that you are a YouTuber and even I can see your live stream as well. Oh, yeah.
We're live right now. Lenus Scamcrusher
69. Follow on Tik Tok. All right. Thanks, Brian. You've been a good sport,
man. Take care. Okay. Take care. Bye-bye. Good luck with your future
endeavors. So, interestingly, um, this
is a maybe a good tiein because screen
connect client that's running on the computer. Like, actually, if you don't
mind, can you like find it? I mean, yeah, sure. I'll try because give me a
sec. It's not on the bottom. That's actually pretty uh That's pretty That's
pretty clever. It's not see it running right now. It's got to be a process,
right? So, Oh, he left. Dang it.
Although there's a service that they have running, right? Would it show up in
your processes or no? When they're connected, yes. But at any point, screen
connect client. I got it. Yeah. There's a system level service that runs. So
even if you end that Yeah. They can connect to the computer at any time.
Wow. So like it could be the middle of the night. Even if you like called him
out for being a scammer, right, and you hang up the phone, uh, he can just
connect back on your computer later. Wild. That's pretty That's pretty good.
Which I think is why um you need something like a threat locker or a
Serif secure because like most people don't realize like how how big a deal
this is. Yeah, I I wouldn't have seen this one coming. I would have been
trying to figure out like where it's open and all that. What's the service
called? It's not even called screen. Whatever. It should. Maybe he just
didn't install it that way. A lot of times they install it where there's a
service. That's a bummer. But okay, well, watch out for that one. Maybe
maybe he decided this time we weren't good enough to uh to go after us. You
don't try very hard to be convincing, do you? I've done like 10,000 maybe 11,000
calls at this point. Yes, that's fair. What was the last guy's name again?
Brian. Shout out Brian. Yeah, I'm going to dedicate to Brian this segue to our
sponsor, Threat Locker. You guys saw them in action. If you're looking for a
good solution for your business, there's always Threat Locker. Or if you're
looking for something for your elderly relatives, then uh hey, do you want to
do you want to pitch your software one more time for them to check out? Yeah, thank you.
Sarifsecure.com. We've poured about 8 years of research into it. The goal is
to make it as easy as possible for you to protect your family from scams like
these. One of the other features I didn't show you is uh if you do the pre
the paid version cuz everything I showed you was free. The paid version will give
you a text. So like if if mom is being targeted by scammers, that's pretty
important because nothing that we saw would prevent them from saying, "Hey
mom, give me your credit card number over the phone right now." Exactly.
Whereas if you get the text and you be like, "Oh,
yeah. Mom, put down the phone." Exactly. And we and we do have it happen. If you
guys enjoyed this video, hey, go check out Kit's channel. We'll have that link
down below. Or man, what would we
even Or you can go watch me and Plof get
kind of clowned on by support agents in Secret Shopper. That sounds great. Yeah.
The worst part is everyone's earnestly actually trying to reach a resolution in
that one. It just is hard.