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This is Kit. He likes to waste scammers

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time. He doesn't like when nice people get taken advantage of, though. So,

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Threat Locker sponsored this video where we're going to be protecting our less

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techsavvy loved ones by combining our powers to create the Unscammable PC.

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Not only have we changed some of the hardware to give those scammer

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degenerates a tough time, but we're also going to use some of Kit's own software

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that you may have seen on his channel. and some help from our friends at Threat

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Locker. Okay, we're ready then, right? One important thing. You need these.

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Now we're ready. Oh, wait. No, we still

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need costumes. Okay. To the wardrobe.

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They definitely won't see us unless we want them to, right? Okay. They will try

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to pull up our webcam. Oh, perfect. So, I fit in. Yeah, there we go. We're nice

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people. Don't scam us. I I'll just wear this hat. Okay. Yeah, we'll we'll be

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father and son on a fishing trip. Please take me fishing, Papa. We're fishing for

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scammers today, son. Let's talk through what we set up on our side. We started

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with a perfectly normal gaming computer. But the thing is, that would be pretty

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nice for the scammers to use. So to make it a little bit slower, more like what

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your nan's running, we parked some cores and then we underclocked the rest to

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make the experience feel a little more authentic and a little more frustrating.

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The other hardware adjustment is you guys might have noticed our Ethernet

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cable is coming out of a Raspberry Pi router that is running Zale Netm, a

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network emulator that lets us mess with our network connection. I figure a lot

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of our victims, maybe they don't have the best internet. Maybe they're in, you know, the rural Midwest or whatever. So,

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we can in an instant apply delay, loss,

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and rate control profiles that will make our connection seem crappier and again

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more frustrating. Of course, none of this makes our PC unscamable. That is

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where your custom software comes in. I haven't actually played around with it

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yet. Can you take me on a little test drive? Yeah, I I'd love to show you. So,

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we have a a free version and a premium version. The the main goal that we set

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out to do, yeah, my grandparents had Alzheimer's and dementia. And no matter

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how many educational videos I would have given them, or no matter how many times

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I would have said, don't let someone connect to your computer, they still

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would have let someone connect to your computer. So, the the main idea here uh

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for our the the free software is that it

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it will block remote connection tools. will not allow a scammer to connect your

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computer, your computer is infected or you know your your bank account's been

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hacked. So if I what you'll see in a second or all these scammers that we're

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talking to are going to have us go to a website like

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ultraviewer.net. Hopefully I typed that right and it's blocked. They get a

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message saying if you're being instructed over the phone to hang up,

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call a loved one or family member. Uh, again, the idea being no matter what,

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they will not be able to connect to the computer. I think we'll have some

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scammers run into this later. Okay. But our goal is to see like what other kind

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of shenanigans, what other crazy things could we do to the computer to make it

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unscamable. Okay. Hello. Hello. Hi

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there. I'm I'm trying to help my dad set up his printer and it's not detected.

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Can you please confirm your name? His name is Frank. It's his printer. Okay.

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And what's your name? My name's Josh. So

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Josh, can you please tell me that which printer you are using? I mean which

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printer your dad is using. Yeah, it's HP. Yeah, he bought it on Facebook. I

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got a good deal on Facebook marketplace. Well, we don't know if it's a good deal

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if unless we know it works. It doesn't work yet. No problem, Josh. I'll fix it

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for you. Oh, that'd be great. Thank you. Okay, just check the printer machine. On

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the face of the machine, you will get the printer model number and it will be

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show fourdigit number. So, I want to know that four-digit number. Four-digit

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number. What's the face of a printer?

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Oh, I've got the product number. Uh, okay. Yeah, please. Okay.

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Product number is 7P S84.

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No, no, no, no. It's a serial number. It's a serial number. I want to know the

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model number. It's a HP. Oh,

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3101. And it says HP on the front on the

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face. All right. Now I can now I understand. So it's a HP laser Jet Pro

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MFC3101 FPW wireless printer, right? I mean, if

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if that's what you say it is. I'm not really a techie guy. I He just bought

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this thing and he asked me to come help him set it up. I just have an iPhone. I

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don't really I don't really do printers. Who prints anything? uh what I can do

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for you I'll go ahead and I'll connect with the computer I'll diagnose it to

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check that what exactly going on I need to understand your computer first and

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then I can able to install the software or the drivers in that computer and

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after that you can use it would that be okay yeah that that makes sense oh I I I

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think I I think I see a link rescue applelet we we don't have an apple

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exactly it says download you just Look at your look at

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your top right corner. Are you able to see open file support?

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Exactly. You just need to click on open file and once your file will open, you

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will receive two requests on your screen. So you just need to click okay

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and yes. It says do you want to allow this app to make changes? The no is

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highlighted. Yes. Click yes. Click yes.

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It says uh support representative will be with you shortly. Is that you? Yeah.

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Yeah. All right. So now I'm sending you one last request. Now you just need to

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click okay. So here we go. One of the following actions. Controller view

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desktop. Okay. And and you're going to you're going to fix the printer, right?

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Yes. All right. So Mr. Frank, Mr. Josh,

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now I'm connected. And now you can see my moving cursor on your screen, right?

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Okay. Yeah. Where did my picture go? I can see here your HP printer is not

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showing here. It's not addited. That's the problem. That's the problem. Yeah.

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No problem. So before you start the work on your computer, I just need you some

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details. I can't tell if it's affecting her or not. Um, your computer's running

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slow. When was the last time you clean your computer?

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Clean the computer. I mean, it's got a little bit of dust on it. Does that make

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it slower? Yeah, it's taking some time

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to um giving a command of your computer

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to open the browser, open the notepad,

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but it's taking some time to taking the command. Would you say it's uh one of

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the slower computers you've worked with? Yeah. Yeah, your computer is running

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slow. So, Mr. Frank, now I just need

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your some details. Okay. So, here we go.

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I already t your first name. Can you please type your last name here? Just

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text you the first name. Okay. So, Mr.

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uh George, uh you are walking

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somewhere. Uh you are studing. What you

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what you do? I'm in lumber. I I I I work

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in uh in like administration for a lumber firm. Wood. Okay. So, do you know

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about the computers uh that how computer

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works and how printer works? Like I

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said, I just they gave me an iPhone at work and they make me use that. I I

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don't I don't even use a computer at home. What would I need it for? Do you

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have any security in this computer?

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technically no, I don't know. No. Okay,

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let me explain. So, you are using computer.

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Yeah. Okay. There's a C on my computer.

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Is that you? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, it's me. I

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set a delay to one and a half seconds. Oh, okay. Oh, your computer running

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slow. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for all your

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help, Rose. Rose, are you are you married? You're welcome. No, I'm not

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married yet. Oh, not yet. Neither is my

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son. I'm sorry. You know, Josh isn't married

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either. I'm just just throwing that out. You got to bring that up right now.

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Sorry. Sorry. Okay. Oh, just give me a

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second. I think the internet is lost.

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It looks like we She just completely lost the connection. It's so slow. It

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looks like you're right around the like she just got she lost it again and she

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connects back. But the delay is so awful that she probably doesn't even she just

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thinks it normal or like she doesn't suspect anything. But you can see every time the screen turns black, it's when

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she connects and then she gets knocked off again. How high do you have the I'm

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just I'm around with delay loss and I think your internet is not working

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properly. Oh. Uh, it's again and again showing that connection is lost. Uh,

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here let me check. Let me check the internet. Now I'm connected. Now I'm

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connected. All right. So Mr. Frank, now

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I'll need to do some basic diagnosis. Okay. So I'm requesting you while I'm

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diagnosing your computer and your printer, please do not touch it. I'll

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leave it as it is. Okay. No, she said don't touch it. Don't touch it. No,

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don't touch it. Don't touch it. And please make sure your printer will be

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turned on. Okay. How do you turn on the printer? You just switch on the button.

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You just switch on the button of your printer. You're awful. You deserve it.

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You should be scammed. Oh, okay. What does it look like? Uh, sir, you just

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need to plug the cable of your printer.

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Well, there's so many different colors. Switch on. Oh. Oh. Uh, okay. Okay. The

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the black cable. Exactly. Yeah, that's

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that's a black cable. All right. So, Josh, now I'm transferring your call to

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one of my technician J uh Jessica. Okay.

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And now she will assist you. This might be like the master scammer too.

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Sometimes there's like layers of people. Yeah. Hi, sir. This Jessica Samuels, how

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are you? Hi Jessica. So, I'm going to do

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one thing, sir. I'm going to check it out. Okay. Let me diagnose it. Okay,

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give me a moment because you let me just tell you. Is that you typing? Yes, sir.

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I'm the typing. Okay, it's it's really a a really slow computer. So, last time

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when did you clean up and tune up your computer? Rose asked us about that. I

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don't I don't think he's ever tuned up his computer. Not once. I don't clean it

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either because it's a pain. This is like

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the scam right here. They're going to tell us because it stopped. We've got

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like big problems on our computer which you know this is no big deal here. You

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can see that sir. You're some of the services part stops stop. There's a lot

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of them. See that? There's a lot of them. Are we supposed to have all these services? What's natural authentication?

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Oh my god. This one. Passport. You can see. You didn't put your passport in the

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computer, did you, Dad? No. No. I am Am I supposed to? We're on a two second

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delay right now on a dialup connection. You can see it like jolting around. Hold

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on. Hold on. Sir, you know what? Your network is very fluctuating. Which

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network provider you're using? Let internet. Let me check the Let me check

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the cable. Let me check the cable. Okay. I was when I was getting the other

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cable, it looked a little loose. Okay. Sir, you are with your friend or your

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like this is my son.

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Oh. Oh, God. Sir, you you're But you

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didn't sound like that. I thought you both I thought you both are you both

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guys are approx 20 uh been 30 to 35

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years old. Sir, I think she's flattering you. Oh, that's very nice. That's so

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nice of you, Jessica. In another life,

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we could have been lovers. Oh, no, no,

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no. I'm not doing that thing. I'm just giving you a compliment. Thank you. I

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appreciate that. Okay, idea. What if you make it so slow that she disconnects and

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then we run some more of the weird things on the computer? It's not quite

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unscamable yet. It's just really annoying. Give me a moment, sir. Your

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network is being disconnected again. Are

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you living in countryside? You both guys live in countryside? Yeah, we're kind of

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I work in forestry.

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Oh, I think I it made it so slow I can't

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connect to the to the pie.

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It's to 10 seconds. So, you live with

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your like father or you live alone, sir?

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No, I No, I live alone. He's single. Oh,

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that's nice, sir. Me, too. I'm 29 years

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old and single. Wow.

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Sir, I believe it's been against Stop. I'm going to do one thing. I'm going to

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change this call to Rose. Okay. She she will going to go through and she going

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to connect your computer. Give me a moment. So to its name uh threat locker

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is detecting that each time uh there's a

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there's a threat here. Basically it looks like this bat file is trying to

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run each time. Hi Rose, I think there's

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some problem and that's why we are not able to connect with your computer. So

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can you please do one thing? Just close everything. I'll guide you another way.

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Okay. Another way. Okay. Just close everything. Now just do one thing. Look

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at your extreme bottom of your screen. Yeah. Click on the search bar. Okay.

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Okay. And type store. Okay. Once you type a store, you will able to see

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Microsoft Store on your screen. Are you able to see? Yeah. Save up to 50% on

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games. South of Midnight. Is that is that right? Bestselling games. So, type

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in the search bar log me in. L O G M E I

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N. One word, no space. It says only

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download if directed to do so by a support technician you trust. No, no,

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hang on. Oh, we trust we trust Rose. I'm explaining you. Okay. Yeah. A support

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representative will be with you shortly. Waiting for technician. Now I'm sending

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you one more request. You just need to click allow and Okay.

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I made those pop up forever. Dude, you you don't need to keep closing them cuz

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they keep popping up.

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Josh, I have all the details. Okay, so

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now let me do some basic diagnosis to check that what exactly going on into

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your computer. Okay, that sounds great.

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Now Jessica will call you back after 15

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to 20 minutes. So you just wait for a call back. She will call you back and

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she will let you know everything. So, I think it's it's kind of a bummer, but it

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is semi-normal because sometimes what they'll do is they'll pull up like task manager now. So, you as a potential

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victim are like, "Oh, look. They're like technical things are transpiring.

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They're fixing my There it is. Task manager just like just like you

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predicted." Yeah. Now, I'm uh I'm going to keep Should I keep messing with the

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connection potentially? Um, so our software Serif will run out. I only

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delete it for an hour. So, I don't know what the timer is at, but at some point

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it's gonna kick her off the computer, which is a We're kind of on a deadline.

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So, the next part will be in 10 or 15 or 20 minutes. Whenever they call back,

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they're going to say, "Well, your computer's like unreoverable unless we

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pay like $800." Like, the scam will really come out. Okay, there's probably

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going to be a lot of extras on this one.

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LMG.gg/flat plane if you guys want to check out the exclusive behind the

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scenes. Dude, I'm just like playing around with the loss and the delay and

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like I'm having a blast here because every time I do something, you can

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notice I can see her kind of struggling to when you put the loss high enough,

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she kind of struggles to click on stuff. And so theoretically, if you wanted to

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protect your family, you could just make their packet loss 50% and delay their

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internet speed by 10 seconds. But that's

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might not protect yourself. Your family might kill you if they ever figured it

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out. Very impractical to make it unscamable. But are you there? Hi sir.

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You know what? Your internet is very bad. Where you are located, sir? In the

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woods. In the woods. Manitoba.

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Ohio. Manitoba. Ohio. Yes. You know

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what, sir? In that way, I can't help you. You're You have very bad internet

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connection. I'm going to kill myself. Oh my Rose. What? What? Yes. I'm going to

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kill myself, sir. Why would you ever say that? Because so you have very very slow

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internet. You can see that. Well, you have fine internet and a whole life

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ahead of you. Okay. I I think I think I fixed the internet though. This is

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escalated very quickly. What What if we try again to fix the printer? Okay. I'm

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going to do one thing. I'm going to give you a quick call back. Okay. What you

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have to be do? Just turn off each and everything. Your internet, computer,

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everything. Just turn it off. Okay.

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Okay. We'll we'll turn it off. Okay. Bye-bye. That got very dark very fast.

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What the heck was that? Have you ever heard that line before? Maybe once. I

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thought she meant I'm going to kill the connection on my side. And then she

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repeated herself. She's like, "No, your internet's so bad. I'm going to kill myself." Look. Is it to make us feel

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bad? I maybe is this a pretty okay day for you or is this just all in the the

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uh I would have liked to see a few more uh swear words but okay fair enough.

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Rose and Jessica are too nice to swear. This next bit's going to be interesting

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because Threat Locker, the sponsor of this video, they sent one of their cyber

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heroes to our studio to make realtime changes to the configuration on our

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system. So normally it would be set up so that basically it doesn't allow

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anything the administrator doesn't recognize. Allow listing basically zero

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trust. But we can actually show how if we want to open something we shouldn't

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be opening, it'll actually go to a network admin, they will approve it or

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in most cases probably not approve it. And then we should be able to allow

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ourselves to be scammed even though obviously that's not how Threat Locker

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would like you to set it up. We mostly focused on Threat Locker's ability to

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block applications today. Also DLL files. Uh but they can block websites.

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They can block access to system settings. So, if you want to make your

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work computers unhackable, Threat Locker is a great tool for your toolkit. You

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can check them out at the link in the video description. Should we do one more

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call? Yeah. Hello, this is John Parker

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from PayPal. Oh, yes. We can assist you.

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We were trying to get a hold of you because you uh I got a bill. Is this the

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right place to call? Uh yes, sir. You are connected with the PayPal. Like, do

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you got a bill from PayPal? I I did get

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a bill and it I don't know why. Could

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you please again look that email which

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you got over the email? Do you see any

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trade ID? Could you please confirm me the last four of the trade ID? It's

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LT 1337. Here I can see sir you are purchasing a

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bitcoin which cost of $523.88.

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That was the very reason you are getting bill from PayPal. I didn't do that. Hold

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on. I I I have my I'm putting you on speaker phone cuz I got my son here. You

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didn't you didn't buy any Bitcoin, right? Well, I told you about this. I

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told you that my daughter wanted some Bitcoin for her birthday, remember? And

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did you spend $800 on it? Can you cancel

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the Bitcoin purchase, please? Of course I can. Of course I can. So you have to

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open up the Chrome Google Chrome from the computer. What do we type in? You

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need to type on the extreme top of the A as in

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alpha, R as in Romeo, D as in David, C

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as in Charlie, A as in alpha. That's a

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lot of letters. Okay, so C A R D.Help.

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No, no, no, no. It's a R dcare.help.

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A RP care. A R D A R D A as in

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R as in David.

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David. David. Okay. Okay. It says to

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authenticate with a code

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for hold this call please to me. This is Brian Wilson and I'm the senior

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supervisor of the floor. How are you? Good. We we were told to put in a code

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but we no one gave us a code. Okay. So I will give you that code. You have

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successfully connected. Yeah. So sir

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right now you are finally connected with our PayPal server. Our server gives you

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the cancellation form of PayPal. Okay. Within a moment. You want me to fill

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this out? He doesn't have a cell phone. Yeah. Now you need to just start filling

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out that cancellation form. Where are you from, Brian? Sir, we are located

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from Salt Lake City, Utah. Our headquarter of PayPal. Oh, Salt Lake

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City. That's the the Windy City, right? With the with the Golden Gate Bridge.

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Okay. Service cancellation form. Your estimated waiting time 15 to 30 minutes.

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Oh, you will be guided by the support staff on the call. So, you're going to

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help us out. And then what it says, uh,

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refund ID. You will get this fourdigit

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code at your banking. I have to go to the bank. No, no, you don't have to go

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to the bank. You need to simply log into your online banking. So, I think threat

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locker made it so we can't go to TD Bank. Oh, okay. And he wants us I can

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undo that. Let us try. Oh, it says your internet access is blocked. Firewall

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software may have blocked the connection. Is this something you can

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help us with? I don't really know about computers much. Unless it's one of

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Unless this is one of those scams. I've been hearing about those on the

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television. On the television? What? Like what you can see over the

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television? Well, I bet. Well, I watch a lot of YouTube on there. You ever heard

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of Lenus Tech Tips?

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It's you, Lenus Tech Tips. It's you. Oh,

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no. That's not me. I think you are the YouTuber Linux Tech.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He just has some good tips on there. That's

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good. Downloads Chrome browser. Ah, so this is interesting. He's he thinks that

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Edge is the problem. So he's going to install Edge, but threat Locker will

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still block TD. Let's see. Let's see. So

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thr you in toilet again. Did you install a firewall? How would I install a

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firewall? Like are you using any kind of

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security on your computer? Maybe that was the reason whenever you try to log

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into your bank, your bank internet access was blocked you. Well, my older,

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much smarter son, he was helping set something up on

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the computer a couple weeks ago. Brian,

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I I I don't know if this is going to work out. Hold on, sir. We are also

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trying to do our level best. Just bear with me. Your level best isn't enough.

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The whole computer's not on now. What did you do? What did you do? I

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don't know. Just turn it on. Just turn it on. It's like it's locked or

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something. Okay, the screen's back on. Did you Are you sure you didn't switch

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banks? You said you were thinking of switching banks. Did you do it and forget about it? I don't know. We can

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request We can request access.

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This is him, by the way. Oh, that's good. They're They turn this on and they

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can actually do stuff behind this. So, he's controlling the computer now.

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Uh, you know what, Brian? I wonder if we just turn the computer off. It says not

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to turn it off. Honestly, what else is there to do? It says do not turn off.

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You got to do the one thing you always do. The one thing people tell you not to

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do, but it's not working. It says your system. Don't gamble, so you gamble.

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It's not updating. Don't buy crypto, you buy crypto. Let it be. Just stop

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fighting, sir. I feel like he's not even trying. I don't even know what he's

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doing. I've called a lot of scammers and this guy doesn't seem to be like caring

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at all. So, we can What is he even doing

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then? Oh, he's going to pull up the camera to see if we're actually here. I

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think he's getting suspicious. Uh Brian,

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once in a lifetime offer for you. Do you want my money? Oh, why I want your

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money? I just get the vibe. Do uh So, do you need do you want like a bank account

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or or LTT Store gift card? Uh, like you

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want to give away that 500? Yeah. Do you need a $500? How about a $500? And you

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can't give that to your actual son. Look sir, let it be. It's over now. Even I

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know that you are a YouTuber. So, it's

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done from now. Which one? What's my name? Uh-huh. Say my name. Look, I just

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watch you and even I can hear my voice that Yes, that was my voice. So, I know

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that you are a YouTuber and even I can see your live stream as well. Oh, yeah.

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We're live right now. Lenus Scamcrusher

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69. Follow on Tik Tok. All right. Thanks, Brian. You've been a good sport,

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man. Take care. Okay. Take care. Bye-bye. Good luck with your future

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endeavors. So, interestingly, um, this

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is a maybe a good tiein because screen

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connect client that's running on the computer. Like, actually, if you don't

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mind, can you like find it? I mean, yeah, sure. I'll try because give me a

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sec. It's not on the bottom. That's actually pretty uh That's pretty That's

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pretty clever. It's not see it running right now. It's got to be a process,

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right? So, Oh, he left. Dang it.

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Although there's a service that they have running, right? Would it show up in

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your processes or no? When they're connected, yes. But at any point, screen

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connect client. I got it. Yeah. There's a system level service that runs. So

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even if you end that Yeah. They can connect to the computer at any time.

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Wow. So like it could be the middle of the night. Even if you like called him

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out for being a scammer, right, and you hang up the phone, uh, he can just

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connect back on your computer later. Wild. That's pretty That's pretty good.

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Which I think is why um you need something like a threat locker or a

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Serif secure because like most people don't realize like how how big a deal

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this is. Yeah, I I wouldn't have seen this one coming. I would have been

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trying to figure out like where it's open and all that. What's the service

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called? It's not even called screen. Whatever. It should. Maybe he just

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didn't install it that way. A lot of times they install it where there's a

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service. That's a bummer. But okay, well, watch out for that one. Maybe

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maybe he decided this time we weren't good enough to uh to go after us. You

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don't try very hard to be convincing, do you? I've done like 10,000 maybe 11,000

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calls at this point. Yes, that's fair. What was the last guy's name again?

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Brian. Shout out Brian. Yeah, I'm going to dedicate to Brian this segue to our

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looking for something for your elderly relatives, then uh hey, do you want to

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do you want to pitch your software one more time for them to check out? Yeah, thank you.

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Sarifsecure.com. We've poured about 8 years of research into it. The goal is

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to make it as easy as possible for you to protect your family from scams like

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these. One of the other features I didn't show you is uh if you do the pre

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the paid version cuz everything I showed you was free. The paid version will give

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you a text. So like if if mom is being targeted by scammers, that's pretty

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important because nothing that we saw would prevent them from saying, "Hey

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mom, give me your credit card number over the phone right now." Exactly.

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Whereas if you get the text and you be like, "Oh,

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yeah. Mom, put down the phone." Exactly. And we and we do have it happen. If you

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guys enjoyed this video, hey, go check out Kit's channel. We'll have that link

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down below. Or man, what would we

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even Or you can go watch me and Plof get

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kind of clowned on by support agents in Secret Shopper. That sounds great. Yeah.

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The worst part is everyone's earnestly actually trying to reach a resolution in

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that one. It just is hard.