WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.200 When I invested in framework computers five years ago, 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:06.440 I thought, I hope it helps this more sustainable 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:11.760 and repairable laptop company get off the ground. But then I also thought, hey, wouldn't it be cool 00:00:11.760 --> 00:00:18.200 if I got to see all their new goodies before anyone else? And yet, here you are, just four days 00:00:18.200 --> 00:00:22.120 before your biggest announcement ever. Four days? 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:26.200 You're still seeing it before everyone else. I know, I know, I'm just mad you made me wait so long. 00:00:26.200 --> 00:00:33.040 Guys, I'm talking four new products. A Framework 13 Pro model that uses LP-CAM2 memory 00:00:33.040 --> 00:00:38.080 for high speeds and easy upgrades. A refreshed, not to mention cheaper version 00:00:38.080 --> 00:00:41.800 of the Framework 16 gaming laptop. A brand new expansion bay module 00:00:41.800 --> 00:00:44.800 that allows you to connect any GPU to your laptop. 00:00:44.800 --> 00:00:52.160 And finally, a brand new product that raised my eyebrows right off my forehead. 00:00:52.160 --> 00:00:55.720 What do you have to say for yourself, mister? We're trying to fulfill our mission. 00:00:55.720 --> 00:00:58.760 What were you trying to hide from me? Leaving this till the last minute. 00:00:58.760 --> 00:01:03.600 Am I not your favorite investor anymore? You are in the top five. 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:07.840 That's just how many you have, isn't it? It's about five. Is it because the other ones have more money? 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:12.080 That's what it's about, isn't it? See, you want to take the checkbook out? We can bump you up the list. 00:01:12.080 --> 00:01:16.000 You know what else we can bump up the list? Is this message from our sponsor. 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:29.280 It's a keyboard. But before we talk about that, 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:32.960 I want to take a closer look at this. 00:01:32.960 --> 00:01:36.120 It looks like a Framework 13. 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:42.400 It smells like a Framework 13. And it even like a Framework 13. 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:47.520 But it feels different. That's because the new Framework 13 Pro 00:01:47.520 --> 00:01:54.080 is now in a new Pro chassis that like the MacBook Pro is made of CNC aluminum. 00:01:54.080 --> 00:01:57.160 It also has a 21% bigger battery, 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:01.360 74 watt hours now, and new speaker modules. 00:02:01.360 --> 00:02:06.840 But wait, there's more. It also comes with a higher resolution 2.8K display, 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:11.840 which is finally a touchscreen. 00:02:13.720 --> 00:02:18.120 Okay, about time what the fuck took so long? That is actually an ask that came from you. 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:22.120 I remember five years ago you telling us we needed to have a touchscreen. 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:28.560 It actually is that it took us this long to get to a steel where we could afford to build a fully custom 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:32.040 from scratch panel. So this is actually the first panel we built 00:02:32.040 --> 00:02:37.280 completely from a blank slate, which is actually a million plus dollar investment to make. 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:41.320 Wow. I mean, it looks great. What's the peak brightness on this thing? 00:02:41.320 --> 00:02:45.200 This goes up to 700 net. We can actually crank it up right here. 00:02:45.200 --> 00:02:49.880 No, no, it's already really bright. It is. Dude, this is incredible. 00:02:49.880 --> 00:02:53.320 I'm honestly impressed. I did not know that this was going to be 00:02:53.440 --> 00:02:58.000 a completely custom panel for you guys. Even the big boys, no offense, you're- 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:01.600 You're a big, well, you're bigger than me. Even the bigger laptop manufacturers 00:03:01.600 --> 00:03:04.880 will often avoid the cost of a fully custom panel 00:03:04.880 --> 00:03:08.760 because unless you're operating at the scale of someone like an Apple, 00:03:08.760 --> 00:03:11.840 it's really hard to guarantee that you're gonna move 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:16.960 the kind of volume to justify that initial investment. We are confident. You must be very bullish on this. 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:22.120 Absolutely, on the pro. And they should be because the final big change to the pro 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:25.400 is the addition of an Intel Core Ultra Series 3 mainboard. 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:29.200 Now you can still get the Ryzen AI 300 series if you're into that sort of thing, 00:03:29.200 --> 00:03:33.800 but the big difference with the Intel one is it comes with LP-CAM 2 memory 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:37.600 and upgrades to PCIe Gen 5 support for the SSD, 00:03:37.600 --> 00:03:42.720 which means outstanding battery life, exemplary GPU performance thanks to Panther Lake, 00:03:42.720 --> 00:03:48.000 and high performance RAM with no compromise on upgradeable memory. 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:51.520 Of course, the big question on people's minds 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:54.640 is can I take this Core Ultra 3 mainboard 00:03:54.640 --> 00:03:58.440 and put it in my five-year-old framework 13 non-pro? 00:03:58.440 --> 00:04:02.800 You actually can. So we, what? That's right. I thought he was setting up this question. 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:06.320 So you had to be like, womp, womp, there's a downside. 00:04:06.320 --> 00:04:10.160 Now we maintained complete backwards and forwards compatibility on the mainboard. 00:04:10.160 --> 00:04:13.280 So you can actually take an old mainboard and drop it into the pro chassis 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.560 or take the new Intel Core Ultra Series 3 mainboard 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:20.160 and put it into an original chassis. Elijah bamboozled me. 00:04:20.200 --> 00:04:24.400 He got the briefing and the next line says, okay, well that's still way more 00:04:24.400 --> 00:04:27.680 than any other laptop manufacturer. That's fucking nuts. 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:31.720 It took a lot of great engineering work. We pulled it off. Wow. 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:35.360 Genuinely impressed, man. This feels like another framework 16 moment 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:38.880 where I'm just like, yeah, no offense, but I thought it'd be impossible. 00:04:38.880 --> 00:04:41.640 I never really believed in you, you know? Okay, thank you. 00:04:43.080 --> 00:04:46.840 Well, no, it's not because I didn't think you were capable. I just thought your goals were too lofty. 00:04:46.840 --> 00:04:50.360 We are ambitious. We're an ambitious company if nothing else. That is off script, 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:54.480 but I want to talk about the display a little bit more. You guys opted for a matte touchscreen, 00:04:54.480 --> 00:05:00.160 which is an unusual choice. This is unusual. So we actually have a pretty novel 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:04.560 anti-glare polarizer here. So we're indoors here, but if you actually take this out into daylight, 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:08.040 it is actually pretty good, even pretty high contrast in that world. 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:12.960 Prove it. Are we gonna go for a walk? We've got the daylight, boys. 00:05:12.960 --> 00:05:16.840 Watch your head, hey? I mean, watch your head, hey? 00:05:16.840 --> 00:05:20.680 Now we're in Canada. I'm going straight into what is pretty much 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:23.720 the most challenging condition for a display. 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:27.880 Oh, wow. That's right. It is really, truly anti-glare. 00:05:27.880 --> 00:05:32.760 That is the beauty of having the matte surface there. Holy crap, that's pretty good. 00:05:32.760 --> 00:05:37.640 We turn it all the way down and you can actually still see it a bit, 00:05:37.640 --> 00:05:40.880 which is pretty crazy. Okay, don't take this the wrong way, 00:05:40.880 --> 00:05:44.200 but you know what it kind of reminds me of? Is those give back- 00:05:44.200 --> 00:05:47.760 Retro-reflective. Yeah, yeah. We can actually turn the backlight off entirely. 00:05:47.840 --> 00:05:51.480 You can see it's mildly retro-reflective, even just as a normal LCD, 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:57.240 but of course you can crank up the brightness and have it work normally. Like I can't see my cursor for shit, but like, 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:00.720 I mean, even at moderate brightness, this is usable. 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:04.760 Dude, I think my neck would burn before the screen would. Let's go back inside. 00:06:04.760 --> 00:06:09.560 Another really cool thing that Framework is doing that many other laptop companies are not, 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:14.520 is offering a build of the system with Ubuntu. They're actually working directly with Canonical 00:06:14.520 --> 00:06:19.520 to ensure that all the drivers and other updates that you need for seamless operation are pre-installed. 00:06:19.520 --> 00:06:25.120 This is remarkable because while lots of laptops support Linux, if you want something official, 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:29.360 there aren't nearly as many options, making this an amazing gateway to a world 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.400 without Microsoft, which I have to say that 00:06:32.400 --> 00:06:37.200 between our recent Linux challenge and my more recent MacBook Neo challenge, 00:06:37.200 --> 00:06:42.280 I've actually been enjoying quite a lot. I've also been enjoying the Mac battery life experience. 00:06:42.280 --> 00:06:46.160 Please tell me it's competitive. Do we have one we can open? 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.640 We can open up this one. But yeah, so this is actually a new expansion card latch 00:06:49.640 --> 00:06:52.880 from the Framework laptop 12. So from that like two hand version 00:06:52.880 --> 00:06:57.320 to this really simple single hand version. I mean, me, I prefer the two hand experience 00:06:57.320 --> 00:07:01.400 if you know what I'm saying, but the Framework 13 Pro is no less of a man. 00:07:01.400 --> 00:07:06.160 Is that okay for this channel? Are we going to be saying things like that? Say whatever we done well, please. 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:09.160 By the way, a nice hoodie. Oh yeah, twinning. 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:14.720 I should change. Oh. Into our sick new, damn it. 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:17.880 Moto T. How cool is this? 00:07:17.880 --> 00:07:20.000 And it's in kind of on theme today. 00:07:20.960 --> 00:07:24.760 Time for your open heart surgery, Mr. Johnson. 00:07:24.760 --> 00:07:31.440 Hold on. What about the ribbon cable? It is right there and you can unplug it 00:07:31.440 --> 00:07:36.080 while the computer is still running. Definitely recommended. Tell me how this bad boy performs. 00:07:36.080 --> 00:07:39.080 We've got a higher capacity and higher efficiency. 00:07:39.080 --> 00:07:43.560 So actually there are use cases where we're getting more than double the battery life 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:48.760 of the last generation Framework laptop 13. So for example, Netflix 4K streaming, 00:07:48.760 --> 00:07:54.120 which oftentimes many of us do, we go from about eight hours on the last Framework laptop 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:58.040 to about 20 hours on this generation. Shit. 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.480 The battery actually is physically bigger in two dimensions. 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:05.960 So you'll need to bring along a new bottom cover and that new input cover to get the new battery. 00:08:05.960 --> 00:08:11.380 Oh, let's talk about the new input cover. The final big change for the 13 Pro is the new input cover, 00:08:11.380 --> 00:08:16.740 which will have a new haptic touchpad and a better typing experience due to its C and C frame. 00:08:16.740 --> 00:08:21.140 With all these changes, this thing could be a serious competitor 00:08:21.140 --> 00:08:24.940 to the MacBook Pro with its feel, style, and performance, 00:08:24.940 --> 00:08:29.340 depending on one big thing, which I will find out after showing off a cool new feature. 00:08:29.340 --> 00:08:33.060 There's a little spring pin that lifts this up to make it easier to lift off the keyboard now. 00:08:33.060 --> 00:08:36.340 So nice. It's one banana, Michael. 00:08:36.340 --> 00:08:41.620 What could it cost? $10? It is a little step up from the Framework laptop 13. 00:08:41.620 --> 00:08:44.740 We actually are keeping that original chassis available 00:08:44.740 --> 00:08:50.260 to be our new entry-level product. Obviously, adding a touchscreen, haptic touchpad, 00:08:50.260 --> 00:08:53.420 larger battery, full C and C chassis does add some cost. 00:08:53.420 --> 00:08:56.540 The memory and storage market is so volatile right now 00:08:56.540 --> 00:09:00.980 that I actually don't want to put a number NVIDIA. But one thing that we can commit to 00:09:00.980 --> 00:09:05.400 is that for anyone who is placing a pre-order for this product, whatever price they see 00:09:05.400 --> 00:09:09.800 and place an order for is the price that they're going to pay for it. We're not going to update prices 00:09:09.800 --> 00:09:15.460 on an order someone's already placed. I hate that that qualifies as a good guy take these days. 00:09:15.460 --> 00:09:21.260 It's an okay guy take, yeah. Moving on, our next new laptop is less of a new laptop 00:09:21.260 --> 00:09:24.500 and more of a mid-cycle refresh of the Framework 16, 00:09:24.500 --> 00:09:29.100 starting with the input modules. There's new single-piece haptic track ports 00:09:29.100 --> 00:09:32.220 and keyboards now. If you remember from the original Framework 16, 00:09:32.220 --> 00:09:36.500 there were options to configure the inputs in a variety of ways, depending on your preference. 00:09:36.500 --> 00:09:39.780 Well, this allows you to have a cleaner look, 00:09:39.780 --> 00:09:43.340 but the bigger change is under the hood. 00:09:43.340 --> 00:09:47.500 A new Ryzen 5 version that should make this a great option 00:09:47.500 --> 00:09:53.660 for someone who wants a bigger screen or a bigger trackpad or a dedicated GPU, 00:09:53.660 --> 00:09:56.900 but doesn't want to pay the top spec CPU tax. 00:09:56.900 --> 00:10:01.460 There's also a translucent bezel that perfectly matches our carbon black 00:10:01.460 --> 00:10:06.660 translucent screwdriver, lttstore.com. And finally, some cool developer projects. 00:10:06.660 --> 00:10:11.180 What am I looking at here? These are actually input modules for Framework laptop 16 00:10:11.180 --> 00:10:17.300 that were made by developers in the community. So this is a MIDI keyboard made by a guy named pitstoptech, 00:10:17.300 --> 00:10:22.220 and this is- Weird mother naming him that. Yes, this is a cool Ergo keyboard layout 00:10:22.220 --> 00:10:27.020 made by a developer named Axl. So super awesome projects that drop right into the 16. 00:10:27.020 --> 00:10:31.460 And a trackpad. This was actually our design, our release. 00:10:31.500 --> 00:10:35.020 So this was- You should leave it to the developers in the community. 00:10:35.020 --> 00:10:38.740 I know, they do a better job than we do. We got a lot of asks, of course, 00:10:38.740 --> 00:10:43.900 for that one-piece touchpad row. So we ended up actually releasing a 3D printable design 00:10:43.900 --> 00:10:50.420 on GitHub last year, and then led that directly into this one-piece CNC aluminum 00:10:50.420 --> 00:10:55.660 design that we're actually gonna be making for sale. Right, but how many seasons will this one piece have? 00:10:55.660 --> 00:11:00.540 So what? Don't worry about it. I'm too old or too young for that reference. 00:11:00.540 --> 00:11:03.940 I'm not sure which. Since we're on the subject of the Framework 16, 00:11:03.940 --> 00:11:08.540 one of its biggest selling points is, of course, its upgradable GPU modules. 00:11:08.540 --> 00:11:11.900 But up until now, your upgrade options have been pretty limited. 00:11:11.900 --> 00:11:17.260 You've got a small handful of GPUs, or you've got, well, nothing. 00:11:17.260 --> 00:11:21.460 But now, there's more. There's the Oculink Expansion Bay. 00:11:21.460 --> 00:11:25.420 This will give you a single Oculink 8i connection 00:11:25.420 --> 00:11:28.660 out the back of your laptop, which you could run into anything 00:11:28.660 --> 00:11:31.980 that would take an Oculink 8i signal, like, say, for example, 00:11:31.980 --> 00:11:36.420 a full-sized freaking desktop GPU, 00:11:36.420 --> 00:11:39.660 which immediately raised tons of questions for me, 00:11:39.660 --> 00:11:43.420 like, why Oculink instead of Thunderbolt 5? 00:11:43.420 --> 00:11:46.500 Oculink gives you native PCIe out over that cable, 00:11:46.500 --> 00:11:50.260 meaning you don't have protocol overhead. And we actually used 8i 00:11:50.260 --> 00:11:53.620 rather than the more common Oculink 4 interface, 00:11:53.620 --> 00:11:57.460 which means we can actually get up to 128 gigabits 00:11:57.460 --> 00:12:01.700 per second of bi-directional throughput. And that's a very valid reason. 00:12:01.700 --> 00:12:06.180 Actually, Tech PowerUp wrote an article a couple of months ago talking about how Thunderbolt 5 00:12:06.180 --> 00:12:11.180 was anywhere from 16 to 36% worse for EGPU performance 00:12:11.380 --> 00:12:16.900 compared to Oculink. With that said, I do still worry about some of Oculink's 00:12:17.780 --> 00:12:22.580 missing quality of life features, like not being able to hot plug. 00:12:22.580 --> 00:12:27.580 Do you have a plan for that? This is why we are positioning this as an Oculink dev kit, 00:12:27.580 --> 00:12:30.660 because we know that this is not a general consumer solution, 00:12:30.660 --> 00:12:35.860 like something like Thunderbolt, where everything is hot plug. And I mean, I guess that's what the other six 00:12:35.860 --> 00:12:38.940 modular IO spots are for. Exactly. 00:12:38.940 --> 00:12:43.900 My other question is, what does this mean for folks who want to run more than one PCIe card 00:12:43.900 --> 00:12:46.980 off of this slot? Because 8 lanes is a lot. 00:12:46.980 --> 00:12:50.340 8 lanes is a lot, but that gets you 100 gigabit network cards. 00:12:50.340 --> 00:12:54.420 It gets you full DGPUs. There's a lot of great use cases for 8 lanes. 00:12:54.420 --> 00:12:58.900 Right, but what if I wanted like two cards in like one of those bay things? 00:12:58.900 --> 00:13:05.220 So we actually have, in this card, support for only Oculink 8i over a single interface. 00:13:05.220 --> 00:13:10.220 There is actually a developer in the community who designed their own Oculink 8i board 00:13:10.220 --> 00:13:14.300 that supports bifurcation into multiple interfaces. 00:13:14.300 --> 00:13:17.540 Wow. That would be pretty cool. 00:13:17.540 --> 00:13:21.700 On the subject of expansion bays, some of you might have noticed 00:13:22.620 --> 00:13:27.700 All right, well, they have a new 10 gig Ethernet card for those who thought that two and a half gig wasn't enough. 00:13:27.700 --> 00:13:32.820 You can play it as a joke. They've brought so much stuff that I literally forgot one of the end products are now. 00:13:32.820 --> 00:13:37.220 It's okay, it's better than forgetting something, not on a plane. All right, let's, which brings us finally 00:13:37.220 --> 00:13:42.820 to the star of the show. Okay, not the star of the show, but an odd choice. 00:13:42.820 --> 00:13:48.460 The framework keyboard. Can you explain why you guys felt the need 00:13:48.460 --> 00:13:52.460 to make this of all things? It actually started with the framework desktop. 00:13:52.460 --> 00:13:56.700 So we designed the desktop to be a really convenient living room PC, 00:13:56.700 --> 00:14:00.020 a server for a home lab setups, even stuff like SIM rigs. 00:14:00.020 --> 00:14:03.980 And we found as we were using this, both internally and starting to seeding out 00:14:03.980 --> 00:14:08.460 that there was just no keyboard that fit that scenario that we actually liked. 00:14:08.460 --> 00:14:14.220 I was going to say, there are keyboards that fits that scenario. And then you finished the sentence and I agree. 00:14:14.220 --> 00:14:18.900 I don't want to call out anybody's specific Elijah. He's handing me one that I've spent more time 00:14:18.900 --> 00:14:24.220 than I'd like with. What makes this one different? This uses the same mechanical key structure 00:14:24.220 --> 00:14:28.020 and actually the same touchpad architecture from the framework laptop 12. 00:14:28.020 --> 00:14:31.220 So same great feel that we have across our laptop lineup. 00:14:31.220 --> 00:14:34.540 And it's got an ultra power efficient new radio 00:14:34.540 --> 00:14:37.980 from Nordic called the NRF 54. So the battery life is awesome too. 00:14:37.980 --> 00:14:42.580 All right, the coolest part though, I think is actually this, 00:14:42.580 --> 00:14:46.060 the little dongle garage that they built for it 00:14:46.060 --> 00:14:49.180 so that I could permanently have the dongle installed 00:14:49.220 --> 00:14:52.940 in my laptop. Not that I would normally use an outside keyboard 00:14:52.940 --> 00:14:58.140 with a laptop, but actually I would want to use this for like my Logitech mouse receiver. 00:14:58.140 --> 00:15:02.140 You could, it does fit in. It's a good fit. Okay, I'm going to try it because I actually have a new mouse 00:15:02.140 --> 00:15:05.340 that I've been meaning to try. Okay, we haven't tested every dongle. 00:15:05.340 --> 00:15:08.500 So we're going to find out if this specific one does fit. 00:15:08.500 --> 00:15:12.300 Man, I'm putting them on the spot. All right, here we go. Yeah, of course I'm putting them on the spot. That's what I do. 00:15:12.300 --> 00:15:15.380 Here it is, the pressure test. He knew what this was. Okay, that looks big. 00:15:15.380 --> 00:15:20.580 Yeah, actually I don't know if that's gonna... Okay, I'm sure there are other Logitech products 00:15:20.580 --> 00:15:23.980 in the world that have different size. You know what? 00:15:23.980 --> 00:15:28.100 It's not that bad. It's better, yeah, it's better than it coming out the side. 00:15:28.100 --> 00:15:33.060 I don't know if it comes out anymore though. Okay, this is the only, there's only two of these in the world. 00:15:34.820 --> 00:15:38.820 Well, I guess one of them is mine now because I'm not giving you my dongle for my new mouse. 00:15:40.260 --> 00:15:43.820 Oh, good. Do you want to make it a touch wider? 00:15:43.820 --> 00:15:47.220 It's a perfect fit for our dongle. All right, so what you're telling me 00:15:47.220 --> 00:15:50.980 is the tooling's already done. The tooling is actually not done technically. 00:15:50.980 --> 00:15:56.060 Can you make it a little bigger? I'll bring that to your industrial designer. I'll blame you for the change. 00:15:56.060 --> 00:15:59.820 Okay, to be clear, because like this one... That's a great fit. Is a great fit. 00:15:59.820 --> 00:16:02.860 But the more you can accommodate, the better, you know? Now this seems like something 00:16:02.860 --> 00:16:06.740 that would be more of like a community project, but how cool would it be if there was like, 00:16:06.740 --> 00:16:10.020 you could kind of like have a slider to adjust the depth or something like that. 00:16:10.020 --> 00:16:14.100 Great, thank you. Bring that back to the team. 00:16:14.100 --> 00:16:17.980 On a desktop, it like doesn't matter, but on a desktop, it also just doesn't matter 00:16:17.980 --> 00:16:20.980 if my dongle's sticking out the front. So this is really about the laptop. 00:16:20.980 --> 00:16:25.060 That's right. So you know my suggestions are not that stupid. Okay, we did do the touch screen. 00:16:26.500 --> 00:16:31.700 So what you're telling me is in five years, I can have a dongle garage that has an adjustable deck. 00:16:31.700 --> 00:16:35.140 Exactly, that's right. Remember, you're not the favorite investor. 00:16:35.140 --> 00:16:38.380 Top five, top five. I know it's because they have more money. Coming back to the keyboard, 00:16:38.380 --> 00:16:42.420 the firmware is being fully open sourced for people who want to play around and have fun with it. 00:16:42.420 --> 00:16:47.700 It can store four different profiles and it can use either the dedicated dongle adapter 00:16:47.700 --> 00:16:50.740 or just plug the USB dongle directly into your system 00:16:50.740 --> 00:16:56.020 or you can plug it in via USB-C. Now, question for you, Narav. 00:16:56.020 --> 00:16:59.540 Framework is probably best known for its repairability. 00:16:59.540 --> 00:17:04.260 How is a keyboard more repairable or upgradeable? 00:17:04.260 --> 00:17:08.220 The battery is actually replaceable just like it is on all of our products. 00:17:08.220 --> 00:17:12.260 Beyond that, there is actually not that much you can repair on something like this, 00:17:12.260 --> 00:17:16.380 but we did make it as open as we could. So, of course, the firmware is open source. 00:17:16.380 --> 00:17:20.300 We're releasing open source surface CAD, so you can three-print your own accessories. 00:17:20.300 --> 00:17:25.660 And we're actually releasing the guts of the system, this control board, to be its own dev board 00:17:25.660 --> 00:17:31.420 for people to make their own keyboards around. Oh, that's cool. If I spill a Coke in the touchpad, but my keyboard is fine, 00:17:31.420 --> 00:17:34.660 can I buy a new trackpad from you? You, at the moment, cannot. 00:17:34.660 --> 00:17:37.860 If we start to see that happen a lot in the community, that's something that we would look at. 00:17:37.860 --> 00:17:40.940 Acceptable. Everyone starts spilling your drinks. 00:17:40.940 --> 00:17:43.740 Well, I wouldn't actually tell people to do that on purpose, 00:17:44.340 --> 00:17:47.860 but let's move around to the front and I'll ask them the real hard-hitting questions. 00:17:47.860 --> 00:17:51.060 As exciting as a keyboard is, the two categories that probably come up 00:17:51.060 --> 00:17:54.980 the most from people are printer and TV. 00:17:54.980 --> 00:18:00.100 TV, yes, those are the top two. And what can you tell the community about those categories? 00:18:00.100 --> 00:18:03.980 We ran out of space on this table, so that's all the products we could build for this year. 00:18:03.980 --> 00:18:07.780 That is, wow. When he gets tired of running framework, 00:18:07.780 --> 00:18:12.820 I'm pretty sure he's going into politics. Would you guys have any interest in exploring those categories? 00:18:12.860 --> 00:18:15.980 Because they seem like ones where framework's 00:18:15.980 --> 00:18:19.180 core values of repairability and upgradeability 00:18:19.180 --> 00:18:24.060 would be a huge enhancement. I mean, TV manufacturers bring us a new TV every year 00:18:24.060 --> 00:18:28.100 that has more ads and less repairability than the one before 00:18:28.100 --> 00:18:32.220 with no way to meaningfully reuse any components of it. 00:18:32.220 --> 00:18:36.220 That seems right up Frameworks Alley and then printers. 00:18:36.220 --> 00:18:40.180 I mean, f***ing printers, right? 00:18:40.180 --> 00:18:45.140 You're right. Even the keyboard actually starts from consumer frustration. 00:18:45.140 --> 00:18:50.060 Like, we were frustrated, we looked down the community, we know people are frustrated by the only keyboard 00:18:50.060 --> 00:18:53.620 that's available in this segment. And so when we think about what products 00:18:53.620 --> 00:18:58.140 we want to build next, it actually really does start from consumer frustration, 00:18:58.140 --> 00:19:01.340 but then we have to filter it through, can we build that product? 00:19:01.340 --> 00:19:04.540 Do we have the supplier connections? Do we have the R&D expertise? 00:19:04.540 --> 00:19:09.460 And actually, maybe most importantly, the money. Do we have the funding to be able to turn on the new category? 00:19:09.460 --> 00:19:15.900 I knew that was why he came here today. Okay, I'm sorry to have to ask you why in this video, 00:19:15.900 --> 00:19:20.900 but you happen to have any spare change that you can share. 00:19:22.300 --> 00:19:26.020 No, but I do have something pretty exciting on our side that you might like. 00:19:26.020 --> 00:19:29.420 Oh, it's here. Yeah, I'm going to go get it. I'll be right back. 00:19:29.420 --> 00:19:33.620 I have no idea what he's getting. I hope it's a giant pile of cash. 00:19:35.340 --> 00:19:39.740 He is gone. He went all the way to the other building. Maybe he went to the bank. 00:19:39.740 --> 00:19:46.380 He went to the airport. Oh, he's flying. He's flying to sell the jet to fund the printer. 00:19:47.580 --> 00:19:51.500 Call it inspired by frameworks designing those, 00:19:51.500 --> 00:19:54.740 or maybe call it, we were already aligned in the first place. 00:19:54.740 --> 00:20:00.140 We're finally ready to start talking about a product that's very exciting and coming soon at LTT Store, 00:20:00.140 --> 00:20:03.780 and it's going to be- This looks cool. Our new battery bank. 00:20:03.780 --> 00:20:09.860 My original goal was to have it so that you could completely resell it, C-E-L-L. 00:20:09.860 --> 00:20:15.500 Once the batteries reached their end of life. There was no battery manufacturer on earth 00:20:15.500 --> 00:20:19.220 who was willing to accept the liability of a design like that, 00:20:19.220 --> 00:20:23.020 but we've reached what we think is going to be a good middle ground, 00:20:23.020 --> 00:20:26.540 and that is what we're calling battery mags. 00:20:26.540 --> 00:20:31.660 So these are going to allow you, once you reach the end of life for yourselves, 00:20:31.660 --> 00:20:38.380 to keep the control board, keep the chassis, and just swamp, throw in a new battery pack. 00:20:38.380 --> 00:20:43.460 But wait, there's more. The best part is, you know, again, very framework inspired, 00:20:43.460 --> 00:20:48.100 upgradeable firmware. That's good. And reconfigurability, so that in the event 00:20:48.100 --> 00:20:51.340 that let's say sodium ion were to make its way 00:20:51.340 --> 00:20:56.660 into the 18650 form factor in the future, which has benefits like being 00:20:56.660 --> 00:21:01.500 a little more ecologically friendly, more stable and better at lower temperatures, 00:21:01.500 --> 00:21:05.980 you'd be able to swap in a new battery magazine or order it configured with that in the first place 00:21:05.980 --> 00:21:09.820 and take advantage of those better characteristics. Or if there are future chemistries, 00:21:09.820 --> 00:21:15.180 we'd love to be able to support them. This is awesome. The coolest part is this mechanical interface, 00:21:15.180 --> 00:21:19.660 which is still kind of under development, but the goal here is to be able to equip it 00:21:19.660 --> 00:21:22.740 with different hats. So what you could do is you could build 00:21:22.740 --> 00:21:26.980 like a USB-A breakout hat or an LED flashlight hat. 00:21:26.980 --> 00:21:31.140 Expansion card hat? Expansion card hat, bench top power supply hat. 00:21:31.140 --> 00:21:37.220 Whatever it is you want to build, you'd be able to clip it on and then use the two USB-Cs that are there by default 00:21:37.220 --> 00:21:41.180 and adapt them to whatever you need. Disassembly is with one screw. 00:21:41.180 --> 00:21:44.940 Very cool. Hopefully someday soon. And now that I've shown it to him, 00:21:44.940 --> 00:21:48.980 they can't do a battery bank before we do. Great, thank you for that. 00:21:50.220 --> 00:21:54.300 And you know what else he can't do before I do it? 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