1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,200 When I invested in framework computers five years ago, 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,440 I thought, I hope it helps this more sustainable 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,760 and repairable laptop company get off the ground. But then I also thought, hey, wouldn't it be cool 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:18,200 if I got to see all their new goodies before anyone else? And yet, here you are, just four days 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,120 before your biggest announcement ever. Four days? 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,200 You're still seeing it before everyone else. I know, I know, I'm just mad you made me wait so long. 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:33,040 Guys, I'm talking four new products. A Framework 13 Pro model that uses LP-CAM2 memory 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,080 for high speeds and easy upgrades. A refreshed, not to mention cheaper version 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,800 of the Framework 16 gaming laptop. A brand new expansion bay module 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,800 that allows you to connect any GPU to your laptop. 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:52,160 And finally, a brand new product that raised my eyebrows right off my forehead. 12 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:55,720 What do you have to say for yourself, mister? We're trying to fulfill our mission. 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,760 What were you trying to hide from me? Leaving this till the last minute. 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,600 Am I not your favorite investor anymore? You are in the top five. 15 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,840 That's just how many you have, isn't it? It's about five. Is it because the other ones have more money? 16 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,080 That's what it's about, isn't it? See, you want to take the checkbook out? We can bump you up the list. 17 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,000 You know what else we can bump up the list? Is this message from our sponsor. 18 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,280 It's a keyboard. But before we talk about that, 19 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,960 I want to take a closer look at this. 20 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:36,120 It looks like a Framework 13. 21 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:42,400 It smells like a Framework 13. And it even like a Framework 13. 22 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,520 But it feels different. That's because the new Framework 13 Pro 23 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:54,080 is now in a new Pro chassis that like the MacBook Pro is made of CNC aluminum. 24 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,160 It also has a 21% bigger battery, 25 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,360 74 watt hours now, and new speaker modules. 26 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,840 But wait, there's more. It also comes with a higher resolution 2.8K display, 27 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,840 which is finally a touchscreen. 28 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,120 Okay, about time what the fuck took so long? That is actually an ask that came from you. 29 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,120 I remember five years ago you telling us we needed to have a touchscreen. 30 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:28,560 It actually is that it took us this long to get to a steel where we could afford to build a fully custom 31 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,040 from scratch panel. So this is actually the first panel we built 32 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:37,280 completely from a blank slate, which is actually a million plus dollar investment to make. 33 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,320 Wow. I mean, it looks great. What's the peak brightness on this thing? 34 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,200 This goes up to 700 net. We can actually crank it up right here. 35 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,880 No, no, it's already really bright. It is. Dude, this is incredible. 36 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,320 I'm honestly impressed. I did not know that this was going to be 37 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,000 a completely custom panel for you guys. Even the big boys, no offense, you're- 38 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,600 You're a big, well, you're bigger than me. Even the bigger laptop manufacturers 39 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,880 will often avoid the cost of a fully custom panel 40 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,760 because unless you're operating at the scale of someone like an Apple, 41 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,840 it's really hard to guarantee that you're gonna move 42 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,960 the kind of volume to justify that initial investment. We are confident. You must be very bullish on this. 43 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:22,120 Absolutely, on the pro. And they should be because the final big change to the pro 44 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,400 is the addition of an Intel Core Ultra Series 3 mainboard. 45 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,200 Now you can still get the Ryzen AI 300 series if you're into that sort of thing, 46 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,800 but the big difference with the Intel one is it comes with LP-CAM 2 memory 47 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,600 and upgrades to PCIe Gen 5 support for the SSD, 48 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,720 which means outstanding battery life, exemplary GPU performance thanks to Panther Lake, 49 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:48,000 and high performance RAM with no compromise on upgradeable memory. 50 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,520 Of course, the big question on people's minds 51 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,640 is can I take this Core Ultra 3 mainboard 52 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,440 and put it in my five-year-old framework 13 non-pro? 53 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,800 You actually can. So we, what? That's right. I thought he was setting up this question. 54 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,320 So you had to be like, womp, womp, there's a downside. 55 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,160 Now we maintained complete backwards and forwards compatibility on the mainboard. 56 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,280 So you can actually take an old mainboard and drop it into the pro chassis 57 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,560 or take the new Intel Core Ultra Series 3 mainboard 58 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,160 and put it into an original chassis. Elijah bamboozled me. 59 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,400 He got the briefing and the next line says, okay, well that's still way more 60 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,680 than any other laptop manufacturer. That's fucking nuts. 61 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,720 It took a lot of great engineering work. We pulled it off. Wow. 62 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,360 Genuinely impressed, man. This feels like another framework 16 moment 63 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,880 where I'm just like, yeah, no offense, but I thought it'd be impossible. 64 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,640 I never really believed in you, you know? Okay, thank you. 65 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,840 Well, no, it's not because I didn't think you were capable. I just thought your goals were too lofty. 66 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:50,360 We are ambitious. We're an ambitious company if nothing else. That is off script, 67 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,480 but I want to talk about the display a little bit more. You guys opted for a matte touchscreen, 68 00:04:54,480 --> 00:05:00,160 which is an unusual choice. This is unusual. So we actually have a pretty novel 69 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,560 anti-glare polarizer here. So we're indoors here, but if you actually take this out into daylight, 70 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,040 it is actually pretty good, even pretty high contrast in that world. 71 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,960 Prove it. Are we gonna go for a walk? We've got the daylight, boys. 72 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,840 Watch your head, hey? I mean, watch your head, hey? 73 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:20,680 Now we're in Canada. I'm going straight into what is pretty much 74 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,720 the most challenging condition for a display. 75 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,880 Oh, wow. That's right. It is really, truly anti-glare. 76 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,760 That is the beauty of having the matte surface there. Holy crap, that's pretty good. 77 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,640 We turn it all the way down and you can actually still see it a bit, 78 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,880 which is pretty crazy. Okay, don't take this the wrong way, 79 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,200 but you know what it kind of reminds me of? Is those give back- 80 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,760 Retro-reflective. Yeah, yeah. We can actually turn the backlight off entirely. 81 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:51,480 You can see it's mildly retro-reflective, even just as a normal LCD, 82 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:57,240 but of course you can crank up the brightness and have it work normally. Like I can't see my cursor for shit, but like, 83 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,720 I mean, even at moderate brightness, this is usable. 84 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,760 Dude, I think my neck would burn before the screen would. Let's go back inside. 85 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,560 Another really cool thing that Framework is doing that many other laptop companies are not, 86 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,520 is offering a build of the system with Ubuntu. They're actually working directly with Canonical 87 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:19,520 to ensure that all the drivers and other updates that you need for seamless operation are pre-installed. 88 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:25,120 This is remarkable because while lots of laptops support Linux, if you want something official, 89 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,360 there aren't nearly as many options, making this an amazing gateway to a world 90 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,400 without Microsoft, which I have to say that 91 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:37,200 between our recent Linux challenge and my more recent MacBook Neo challenge, 92 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,280 I've actually been enjoying quite a lot. I've also been enjoying the Mac battery life experience. 93 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:46,160 Please tell me it's competitive. Do we have one we can open? 94 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,640 We can open up this one. But yeah, so this is actually a new expansion card latch 95 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,880 from the Framework laptop 12. So from that like two hand version 96 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,320 to this really simple single hand version. I mean, me, I prefer the two hand experience 97 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,400 if you know what I'm saying, but the Framework 13 Pro is no less of a man. 98 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:06,160 Is that okay for this channel? Are we going to be saying things like that? Say whatever we done well, please. 99 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,160 By the way, a nice hoodie. Oh yeah, twinning. 100 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:14,720 I should change. Oh. Into our sick new, damn it. 101 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,880 Moto T. How cool is this? 102 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,000 And it's in kind of on theme today. 103 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,760 Time for your open heart surgery, Mr. Johnson. 104 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:31,440 Hold on. What about the ribbon cable? It is right there and you can unplug it 105 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:36,080 while the computer is still running. Definitely recommended. Tell me how this bad boy performs. 106 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,080 We've got a higher capacity and higher efficiency. 107 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,560 So actually there are use cases where we're getting more than double the battery life 108 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,760 of the last generation Framework laptop 13. So for example, Netflix 4K streaming, 109 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:54,120 which oftentimes many of us do, we go from about eight hours on the last Framework laptop 110 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,040 to about 20 hours on this generation. Shit. 111 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,480 The battery actually is physically bigger in two dimensions. 112 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,960 So you'll need to bring along a new bottom cover and that new input cover to get the new battery. 113 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:11,380 Oh, let's talk about the new input cover. The final big change for the 13 Pro is the new input cover, 114 00:08:11,380 --> 00:08:16,740 which will have a new haptic touchpad and a better typing experience due to its C and C frame. 115 00:08:16,740 --> 00:08:21,140 With all these changes, this thing could be a serious competitor 116 00:08:21,140 --> 00:08:24,940 to the MacBook Pro with its feel, style, and performance, 117 00:08:24,940 --> 00:08:29,340 depending on one big thing, which I will find out after showing off a cool new feature. 118 00:08:29,340 --> 00:08:33,060 There's a little spring pin that lifts this up to make it easier to lift off the keyboard now. 119 00:08:33,060 --> 00:08:36,340 So nice. It's one banana, Michael. 120 00:08:36,340 --> 00:08:41,620 What could it cost? $10? It is a little step up from the Framework laptop 13. 121 00:08:41,620 --> 00:08:44,740 We actually are keeping that original chassis available 122 00:08:44,740 --> 00:08:50,260 to be our new entry-level product. Obviously, adding a touchscreen, haptic touchpad, 123 00:08:50,260 --> 00:08:53,420 larger battery, full C and C chassis does add some cost. 124 00:08:53,420 --> 00:08:56,540 The memory and storage market is so volatile right now 125 00:08:56,540 --> 00:09:00,980 that I actually don't want to put a number NVIDIA. But one thing that we can commit to 126 00:09:00,980 --> 00:09:05,400 is that for anyone who is placing a pre-order for this product, whatever price they see 127 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,800 and place an order for is the price that they're going to pay for it. We're not going to update prices 128 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:15,460 on an order someone's already placed. I hate that that qualifies as a good guy take these days. 129 00:09:15,460 --> 00:09:21,260 It's an okay guy take, yeah. Moving on, our next new laptop is less of a new laptop 130 00:09:21,260 --> 00:09:24,500 and more of a mid-cycle refresh of the Framework 16, 131 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:29,100 starting with the input modules. There's new single-piece haptic track ports 132 00:09:29,100 --> 00:09:32,220 and keyboards now. If you remember from the original Framework 16, 133 00:09:32,220 --> 00:09:36,500 there were options to configure the inputs in a variety of ways, depending on your preference. 134 00:09:36,500 --> 00:09:39,780 Well, this allows you to have a cleaner look, 135 00:09:39,780 --> 00:09:43,340 but the bigger change is under the hood. 136 00:09:43,340 --> 00:09:47,500 A new Ryzen 5 version that should make this a great option 137 00:09:47,500 --> 00:09:53,660 for someone who wants a bigger screen or a bigger trackpad or a dedicated GPU, 138 00:09:53,660 --> 00:09:56,900 but doesn't want to pay the top spec CPU tax. 139 00:09:56,900 --> 00:10:01,460 There's also a translucent bezel that perfectly matches our carbon black 140 00:10:01,460 --> 00:10:06,660 translucent screwdriver, lttstore.com. And finally, some cool developer projects. 141 00:10:06,660 --> 00:10:11,180 What am I looking at here? These are actually input modules for Framework laptop 16 142 00:10:11,180 --> 00:10:17,300 that were made by developers in the community. So this is a MIDI keyboard made by a guy named pitstoptech, 143 00:10:17,300 --> 00:10:22,220 and this is- Weird mother naming him that. Yes, this is a cool Ergo keyboard layout 144 00:10:22,220 --> 00:10:27,020 made by a developer named Axl. So super awesome projects that drop right into the 16. 145 00:10:27,020 --> 00:10:31,460 And a trackpad. This was actually our design, our release. 146 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:35,020 So this was- You should leave it to the developers in the community. 147 00:10:35,020 --> 00:10:38,740 I know, they do a better job than we do. We got a lot of asks, of course, 148 00:10:38,740 --> 00:10:43,900 for that one-piece touchpad row. So we ended up actually releasing a 3D printable design 149 00:10:43,900 --> 00:10:50,420 on GitHub last year, and then led that directly into this one-piece CNC aluminum 150 00:10:50,420 --> 00:10:55,660 design that we're actually gonna be making for sale. Right, but how many seasons will this one piece have? 151 00:10:55,660 --> 00:11:00,540 So what? Don't worry about it. I'm too old or too young for that reference. 152 00:11:00,540 --> 00:11:03,940 I'm not sure which. Since we're on the subject of the Framework 16, 153 00:11:03,940 --> 00:11:08,540 one of its biggest selling points is, of course, its upgradable GPU modules. 154 00:11:08,540 --> 00:11:11,900 But up until now, your upgrade options have been pretty limited. 155 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:17,260 You've got a small handful of GPUs, or you've got, well, nothing. 156 00:11:17,260 --> 00:11:21,460 But now, there's more. There's the Oculink Expansion Bay. 157 00:11:21,460 --> 00:11:25,420 This will give you a single Oculink 8i connection 158 00:11:25,420 --> 00:11:28,660 out the back of your laptop, which you could run into anything 159 00:11:28,660 --> 00:11:31,980 that would take an Oculink 8i signal, like, say, for example, 160 00:11:31,980 --> 00:11:36,420 a full-sized freaking desktop GPU, 161 00:11:36,420 --> 00:11:39,660 which immediately raised tons of questions for me, 162 00:11:39,660 --> 00:11:43,420 like, why Oculink instead of Thunderbolt 5? 163 00:11:43,420 --> 00:11:46,500 Oculink gives you native PCIe out over that cable, 164 00:11:46,500 --> 00:11:50,260 meaning you don't have protocol overhead. And we actually used 8i 165 00:11:50,260 --> 00:11:53,620 rather than the more common Oculink 4 interface, 166 00:11:53,620 --> 00:11:57,460 which means we can actually get up to 128 gigabits 167 00:11:57,460 --> 00:12:01,700 per second of bi-directional throughput. And that's a very valid reason. 168 00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:06,180 Actually, Tech PowerUp wrote an article a couple of months ago talking about how Thunderbolt 5 169 00:12:06,180 --> 00:12:11,180 was anywhere from 16 to 36% worse for EGPU performance 170 00:12:11,380 --> 00:12:16,900 compared to Oculink. With that said, I do still worry about some of Oculink's 171 00:12:17,780 --> 00:12:22,580 missing quality of life features, like not being able to hot plug. 172 00:12:22,580 --> 00:12:27,580 Do you have a plan for that? This is why we are positioning this as an Oculink dev kit, 173 00:12:27,580 --> 00:12:30,660 because we know that this is not a general consumer solution, 174 00:12:30,660 --> 00:12:35,860 like something like Thunderbolt, where everything is hot plug. And I mean, I guess that's what the other six 175 00:12:35,860 --> 00:12:38,940 modular IO spots are for. Exactly. 176 00:12:38,940 --> 00:12:43,900 My other question is, what does this mean for folks who want to run more than one PCIe card 177 00:12:43,900 --> 00:12:46,980 off of this slot? Because 8 lanes is a lot. 178 00:12:46,980 --> 00:12:50,340 8 lanes is a lot, but that gets you 100 gigabit network cards. 179 00:12:50,340 --> 00:12:54,420 It gets you full DGPUs. There's a lot of great use cases for 8 lanes. 180 00:12:54,420 --> 00:12:58,900 Right, but what if I wanted like two cards in like one of those bay things? 181 00:12:58,900 --> 00:13:05,220 So we actually have, in this card, support for only Oculink 8i over a single interface. 182 00:13:05,220 --> 00:13:10,220 There is actually a developer in the community who designed their own Oculink 8i board 183 00:13:10,220 --> 00:13:14,300 that supports bifurcation into multiple interfaces. 184 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:17,540 Wow. That would be pretty cool. 185 00:13:17,540 --> 00:13:21,700 On the subject of expansion bays, some of you might have noticed 186 00:13:22,620 --> 00:13:27,700 All right, well, they have a new 10 gig Ethernet card for those who thought that two and a half gig wasn't enough. 187 00:13:27,700 --> 00:13:32,820 You can play it as a joke. They've brought so much stuff that I literally forgot one of the end products are now. 188 00:13:32,820 --> 00:13:37,220 It's okay, it's better than forgetting something, not on a plane. All right, let's, which brings us finally 189 00:13:37,220 --> 00:13:42,820 to the star of the show. Okay, not the star of the show, but an odd choice. 190 00:13:42,820 --> 00:13:48,460 The framework keyboard. Can you explain why you guys felt the need 191 00:13:48,460 --> 00:13:52,460 to make this of all things? It actually started with the framework desktop. 192 00:13:52,460 --> 00:13:56,700 So we designed the desktop to be a really convenient living room PC, 193 00:13:56,700 --> 00:14:00,020 a server for a home lab setups, even stuff like SIM rigs. 194 00:14:00,020 --> 00:14:03,980 And we found as we were using this, both internally and starting to seeding out 195 00:14:03,980 --> 00:14:08,460 that there was just no keyboard that fit that scenario that we actually liked. 196 00:14:08,460 --> 00:14:14,220 I was going to say, there are keyboards that fits that scenario. And then you finished the sentence and I agree. 197 00:14:14,220 --> 00:14:18,900 I don't want to call out anybody's specific Elijah. He's handing me one that I've spent more time 198 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:24,220 than I'd like with. What makes this one different? This uses the same mechanical key structure 199 00:14:24,220 --> 00:14:28,020 and actually the same touchpad architecture from the framework laptop 12. 200 00:14:28,020 --> 00:14:31,220 So same great feel that we have across our laptop lineup. 201 00:14:31,220 --> 00:14:34,540 And it's got an ultra power efficient new radio 202 00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:37,980 from Nordic called the NRF 54. So the battery life is awesome too. 203 00:14:37,980 --> 00:14:42,580 All right, the coolest part though, I think is actually this, 204 00:14:42,580 --> 00:14:46,060 the little dongle garage that they built for it 205 00:14:46,060 --> 00:14:49,180 so that I could permanently have the dongle installed 206 00:14:49,220 --> 00:14:52,940 in my laptop. Not that I would normally use an outside keyboard 207 00:14:52,940 --> 00:14:58,140 with a laptop, but actually I would want to use this for like my Logitech mouse receiver. 208 00:14:58,140 --> 00:15:02,140 You could, it does fit in. It's a good fit. Okay, I'm going to try it because I actually have a new mouse 209 00:15:02,140 --> 00:15:05,340 that I've been meaning to try. Okay, we haven't tested every dongle. 210 00:15:05,340 --> 00:15:08,500 So we're going to find out if this specific one does fit. 211 00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:12,300 Man, I'm putting them on the spot. All right, here we go. Yeah, of course I'm putting them on the spot. That's what I do. 212 00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:15,380 Here it is, the pressure test. He knew what this was. Okay, that looks big. 213 00:15:15,380 --> 00:15:20,580 Yeah, actually I don't know if that's gonna... Okay, I'm sure there are other Logitech products 214 00:15:20,580 --> 00:15:23,980 in the world that have different size. You know what? 215 00:15:23,980 --> 00:15:28,100 It's not that bad. It's better, yeah, it's better than it coming out the side. 216 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:33,060 I don't know if it comes out anymore though. Okay, this is the only, there's only two of these in the world. 217 00:15:34,820 --> 00:15:38,820 Well, I guess one of them is mine now because I'm not giving you my dongle for my new mouse. 218 00:15:40,260 --> 00:15:43,820 Oh, good. Do you want to make it a touch wider? 219 00:15:43,820 --> 00:15:47,220 It's a perfect fit for our dongle. All right, so what you're telling me 220 00:15:47,220 --> 00:15:50,980 is the tooling's already done. The tooling is actually not done technically. 221 00:15:50,980 --> 00:15:56,060 Can you make it a little bigger? I'll bring that to your industrial designer. I'll blame you for the change. 222 00:15:56,060 --> 00:15:59,820 Okay, to be clear, because like this one... That's a great fit. Is a great fit. 223 00:15:59,820 --> 00:16:02,860 But the more you can accommodate, the better, you know? Now this seems like something 224 00:16:02,860 --> 00:16:06,740 that would be more of like a community project, but how cool would it be if there was like, 225 00:16:06,740 --> 00:16:10,020 you could kind of like have a slider to adjust the depth or something like that. 226 00:16:10,020 --> 00:16:14,100 Great, thank you. Bring that back to the team. 227 00:16:14,100 --> 00:16:17,980 On a desktop, it like doesn't matter, but on a desktop, it also just doesn't matter 228 00:16:17,980 --> 00:16:20,980 if my dongle's sticking out the front. So this is really about the laptop. 229 00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:25,060 That's right. So you know my suggestions are not that stupid. Okay, we did do the touch screen. 230 00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:31,700 So what you're telling me is in five years, I can have a dongle garage that has an adjustable deck. 231 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:35,140 Exactly, that's right. Remember, you're not the favorite investor. 232 00:16:35,140 --> 00:16:38,380 Top five, top five. I know it's because they have more money. Coming back to the keyboard, 233 00:16:38,380 --> 00:16:42,420 the firmware is being fully open sourced for people who want to play around and have fun with it. 234 00:16:42,420 --> 00:16:47,700 It can store four different profiles and it can use either the dedicated dongle adapter 235 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:50,740 or just plug the USB dongle directly into your system 236 00:16:50,740 --> 00:16:56,020 or you can plug it in via USB-C. Now, question for you, Narav. 237 00:16:56,020 --> 00:16:59,540 Framework is probably best known for its repairability. 238 00:16:59,540 --> 00:17:04,260 How is a keyboard more repairable or upgradeable? 239 00:17:04,260 --> 00:17:08,220 The battery is actually replaceable just like it is on all of our products. 240 00:17:08,220 --> 00:17:12,260 Beyond that, there is actually not that much you can repair on something like this, 241 00:17:12,260 --> 00:17:16,380 but we did make it as open as we could. So, of course, the firmware is open source. 242 00:17:16,380 --> 00:17:20,300 We're releasing open source surface CAD, so you can three-print your own accessories. 243 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:25,660 And we're actually releasing the guts of the system, this control board, to be its own dev board 244 00:17:25,660 --> 00:17:31,420 for people to make their own keyboards around. Oh, that's cool. If I spill a Coke in the touchpad, but my keyboard is fine, 245 00:17:31,420 --> 00:17:34,660 can I buy a new trackpad from you? You, at the moment, cannot. 246 00:17:34,660 --> 00:17:37,860 If we start to see that happen a lot in the community, that's something that we would look at. 247 00:17:37,860 --> 00:17:40,940 Acceptable. Everyone starts spilling your drinks. 248 00:17:40,940 --> 00:17:43,740 Well, I wouldn't actually tell people to do that on purpose, 249 00:17:44,340 --> 00:17:47,860 but let's move around to the front and I'll ask them the real hard-hitting questions. 250 00:17:47,860 --> 00:17:51,060 As exciting as a keyboard is, the two categories that probably come up 251 00:17:51,060 --> 00:17:54,980 the most from people are printer and TV. 252 00:17:54,980 --> 00:18:00,100 TV, yes, those are the top two. And what can you tell the community about those categories? 253 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:03,980 We ran out of space on this table, so that's all the products we could build for this year. 254 00:18:03,980 --> 00:18:07,780 That is, wow. When he gets tired of running framework, 255 00:18:07,780 --> 00:18:12,820 I'm pretty sure he's going into politics. Would you guys have any interest in exploring those categories? 256 00:18:12,860 --> 00:18:15,980 Because they seem like ones where framework's 257 00:18:15,980 --> 00:18:19,180 core values of repairability and upgradeability 258 00:18:19,180 --> 00:18:24,060 would be a huge enhancement. I mean, TV manufacturers bring us a new TV every year 259 00:18:24,060 --> 00:18:28,100 that has more ads and less repairability than the one before 260 00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:32,220 with no way to meaningfully reuse any components of it. 261 00:18:32,220 --> 00:18:36,220 That seems right up Frameworks Alley and then printers. 262 00:18:36,220 --> 00:18:40,180 I mean, f***ing printers, right? 263 00:18:40,180 --> 00:18:45,140 You're right. Even the keyboard actually starts from consumer frustration. 264 00:18:45,140 --> 00:18:50,060 Like, we were frustrated, we looked down the community, we know people are frustrated by the only keyboard 265 00:18:50,060 --> 00:18:53,620 that's available in this segment. And so when we think about what products 266 00:18:53,620 --> 00:18:58,140 we want to build next, it actually really does start from consumer frustration, 267 00:18:58,140 --> 00:19:01,340 but then we have to filter it through, can we build that product? 268 00:19:01,340 --> 00:19:04,540 Do we have the supplier connections? Do we have the R&D expertise? 269 00:19:04,540 --> 00:19:09,460 And actually, maybe most importantly, the money. Do we have the funding to be able to turn on the new category? 270 00:19:09,460 --> 00:19:15,900 I knew that was why he came here today. Okay, I'm sorry to have to ask you why in this video, 271 00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:20,900 but you happen to have any spare change that you can share. 272 00:19:22,300 --> 00:19:26,020 No, but I do have something pretty exciting on our side that you might like. 273 00:19:26,020 --> 00:19:29,420 Oh, it's here. Yeah, I'm going to go get it. I'll be right back. 274 00:19:29,420 --> 00:19:33,620 I have no idea what he's getting. I hope it's a giant pile of cash. 275 00:19:35,340 --> 00:19:39,740 He is gone. He went all the way to the other building. Maybe he went to the bank. 276 00:19:39,740 --> 00:19:46,380 He went to the airport. Oh, he's flying. He's flying to sell the jet to fund the printer. 277 00:19:47,580 --> 00:19:51,500 Call it inspired by frameworks designing those, 278 00:19:51,500 --> 00:19:54,740 or maybe call it, we were already aligned in the first place. 279 00:19:54,740 --> 00:20:00,140 We're finally ready to start talking about a product that's very exciting and coming soon at LTT Store, 280 00:20:00,140 --> 00:20:03,780 and it's going to be- This looks cool. Our new battery bank. 281 00:20:03,780 --> 00:20:09,860 My original goal was to have it so that you could completely resell it, C-E-L-L. 282 00:20:09,860 --> 00:20:15,500 Once the batteries reached their end of life. There was no battery manufacturer on earth 283 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:19,220 who was willing to accept the liability of a design like that, 284 00:20:19,220 --> 00:20:23,020 but we've reached what we think is going to be a good middle ground, 285 00:20:23,020 --> 00:20:26,540 and that is what we're calling battery mags. 286 00:20:26,540 --> 00:20:31,660 So these are going to allow you, once you reach the end of life for yourselves, 287 00:20:31,660 --> 00:20:38,380 to keep the control board, keep the chassis, and just swamp, throw in a new battery pack. 288 00:20:38,380 --> 00:20:43,460 But wait, there's more. The best part is, you know, again, very framework inspired, 289 00:20:43,460 --> 00:20:48,100 upgradeable firmware. That's good. And reconfigurability, so that in the event 290 00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:51,340 that let's say sodium ion were to make its way 291 00:20:51,340 --> 00:20:56,660 into the 18650 form factor in the future, which has benefits like being 292 00:20:56,660 --> 00:21:01,500 a little more ecologically friendly, more stable and better at lower temperatures, 293 00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:05,980 you'd be able to swap in a new battery magazine or order it configured with that in the first place 294 00:21:05,980 --> 00:21:09,820 and take advantage of those better characteristics. Or if there are future chemistries, 295 00:21:09,820 --> 00:21:15,180 we'd love to be able to support them. This is awesome. The coolest part is this mechanical interface, 296 00:21:15,180 --> 00:21:19,660 which is still kind of under development, but the goal here is to be able to equip it 297 00:21:19,660 --> 00:21:22,740 with different hats. So what you could do is you could build 298 00:21:22,740 --> 00:21:26,980 like a USB-A breakout hat or an LED flashlight hat. 299 00:21:26,980 --> 00:21:31,140 Expansion card hat? Expansion card hat, bench top power supply hat. 300 00:21:31,140 --> 00:21:37,220 Whatever it is you want to build, you'd be able to clip it on and then use the two USB-Cs that are there by default 301 00:21:37,220 --> 00:21:41,180 and adapt them to whatever you need. Disassembly is with one screw. 302 00:21:41,180 --> 00:21:44,940 Very cool. Hopefully someday soon. And now that I've shown it to him, 303 00:21:44,940 --> 00:21:48,980 they can't do a battery bank before we do. Great, thank you for that. 304 00:21:50,220 --> 00:21:54,300 And you know what else he can't do before I do it? It's a segue to our sponsor. 305 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:58,380 If you guys enjoyed this video, why not check out the original investment video, 306 00:21:58,380 --> 00:22:01,540 which really outlines what I found so inspiring 307 00:22:01,540 --> 00:22:07,940 about Framework's mission and their design ethos and what made me want to put some money in 308 00:22:07,940 --> 00:22:11,140 and have some skin in the game and be a part of their success. 309 00:22:11,140 --> 00:22:15,340 And it's, again, don't take this the wrong way, but it's worked out like way better 310 00:22:15,340 --> 00:22:18,020 than I could possibly expected. Yeah, yeah.