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Happy birthday me! Here's my present.

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Previously on LTT, I showed you guys this incredible $30,000 CPU cooler

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that is designed for one reason and one reason only.

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To chase PC performance records. But while you guys might have expected me to turn a CPU blue,

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instead, it was your balls. Because I teased it, but never actually hooked it up to any hardware.

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Well that changes today. And our goal is simple.

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Break a world record. An overclocking legend Charles Fuggerworth here

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gave me his personal guarantee that we will do it.

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So what are we waiting for? Well, we've got to prep the motherboard,

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we've got to insulate the socket, we've got to update the BIOS, we've got to upgrade the VGA BIOS,

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we've got to install the Windows, we've got to tune the Windows,

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and we've got to prep the VGA driver. And we've got to get the power cords.

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Oh, oh no, we've got those, we've got the power cords.

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We've got seven circuits to work with. Just seven? What, is that not enough?

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I think seven will work. Okay, as for the rest of it, well,

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it's a good thing we've got the whole day booked for this. And we've got the next 20 seconds booked for our sponsor.

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Before we can begin, one of the key enemies of subzero overclocking is condensation.

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See, the air around us is full of moisture.

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And it will gather on any cold surface, turn to liquid, and drip all over your sensitive electronics.

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Now, there are a number of different ways of approaching this problem.

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The board I'm holding in my hand uses a very similar approach to what you guys saw recently

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when we were chasing world records with our RTX 5090 Astral.

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You basically take PlastiDip, suck it up into a syringe,

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and drip it all over the sensitive components.

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Being sure to keep it away from any contact pins,

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say in PCI Express sockets, or in your power plugs.

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Next, you find a high quality neoprene-like closed cell foam,

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cut it up into nice little shapes, and fill in any big gaps.

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Of course, that's a ton of work, makes your board super ugly,

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and in the event that anything goes wrong, ASUS certainly isn't taking this back for an RMA.

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So Charles has a technique that he likes better.

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And it's to use nothing? Absolutely not.

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I just use a kingpin socket heater. Oh, so that goes on the back here?

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Yeah, it goes on the back of the board. It's a couple hundred watts of heating element.

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So counter-intuitively, you're heating the CPU area?

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Correct, correct, correct. It prevents moisture from building up

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on the backside of the board. Okay, and then what about the front? I use a little bit of insulation, just neoprene.

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Just kind of like this? Yeah, just a little bit of neoprene. Any glue or anything? No, no, no, I'll eat.

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And then I use WD-40, WD-40 specialist.

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Shut up. No, I- You put WD-40 in your CPU socket.

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I spray it directly in the socket, and I fill the socket, and I can actually fire the system up with the socket wet.

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Now, you told me that you thought a manufacturer

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like wouldn't be able to tell you'd put that in there. Is that true? Correct, it's undetectable.

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Completely undetectable. That's a tech tip.

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Little bit of RMA fraud tips. We're not actually advocating for that.

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Oh, you need your board clean.

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We're actually gonna be using the first board today though, and it looks great.

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Like, we could probably run Sub-Zero for hours, days at a time on this.

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But there is one small problem. Noctua probably doesn't make a secu-firm mounting bracket

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for your Cascade Chiller, so how do we get the thing on the thing?

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I make my own custom 3D printed brackets. These are for different sockets.

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That's for X299. Oh, cool, okay. And this is for AMD, AM5, AM4.

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Oh, cool. Hey, got the Extreme Systems logo on there.

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Now, it looks like you're using, oh, crap.

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Nylon. It's the, oh. That's the HP Multi-Jet Fusion.

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Wow, it feels, you can't break it. Feels great.

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It's the HP Multi-Jet Fusion 4200. Like, I don't think I could break this.

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No. Just in case I ever have to swap it. Can you show me how to do it?

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Sure. You said you wanted a screw? Yeah, yeah. So just pull it back a little bit.

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Expose the O-ring. Uh-huh. Pull the O-ring.

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And I just give it the old, ow, I stabbed myself. Well, we're off to a good start today.

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Okay, there we go. Okay, O-ring's off.

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And that's that. Zip-tie engineering. Now, have you ever shown anyone

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what's inside this evap-head? 20 years ago. Super cool.

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And can you kind of describe it for us? Like, is it a maze style or like, what are-

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This is a spiral evap-er. This is the prototype spiral evap-er.

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This is the first one I ever made. What's better about the newer ones?

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The newer ones are a thinner material. So better, faster heat transfer.

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Now, if I wanted to swap it out for AMD then, do you want to show us what that would look like?

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This is a mounting plate. Yeah. Goes into the adapter, goes right on.

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Goes on like that. Install the O-ring. Oh, that's actually shockingly elegant.

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Now, are these O-rings one-time use? Did you just- No, no, no, they're multi-time use,

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but I got a lot of them. Oh, I see, okay. You were just worried I was going to ruin it.

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Yes, I was. Being honest. I've watched your videos, come on.

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Why does he have the sickest burns? For the coldest machine. Yeah.

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Now, is there a reason that we're going Intel today,

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specifically the 285K? The 285K is great for the benchmark

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that we're going to run. An NPU boost is extremely strong in the benchmark.

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Last question for you. Did you choose nylon for its ruggedness or for its insulating properties or both?

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Both. I went with PLA at first and the PLA broke right off the bat.

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Before I put this on, maybe dumb question, but how flexible is this?

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Um, okay. The hose itself, this part is flexible.

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That part is not. Okay. So is everything I'm doing okay?

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Okay, yep.

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Okay. Oh, great. We don't even have any thermal compound,

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but here's the thing. You can't use just any thermal compound.

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What would you go with? Probably some thermal grizzly cryonaut. And the reason for that

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is that certain thermal compounds might perform great at ambient temperature or hot,

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like a liquid metal, for instance, highly thermally conductive,

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but here's the thing. We're not gonna be at room temperature.

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We're gonna be way below and that liquid metal would become solid metal.

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Not too great. Also liquid metal is a bit messy. You're not into the mess.

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No, not at all, actually. I guess you do this for enough years. You just, you become not into the mess

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and it just goes on like this. Hold on one more second here. We got one more piece.

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We got a new piece of neoprene here. Right, for around the bottom here.

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Correct, correct. I need to cut it so it needs to clear the memory slots

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because these are dual dim board. Oh, sure.

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And then that just goes on there or a little something like that. Once you get to there,

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then we'll bring it down another, about a centimeter. About a centimeter, okay.

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Now it's funny. You were making fun of me the other day for using a rando mixture of imperial and metric units,

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but I just heard you use a centimeter. Well, it was less than an inch, so I had to use something else.

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You're measuring things like a Canadian now, boys.

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Well, I'm in Canada. And what's special about this particular Viper kit?

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That's the new ultra sets from Patriot. That's the 6000 C28.

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So just super tight latencies and good rated speed.

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Correct. With CPUs, you know, you guys would take the time

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and you would hand bin. But in the case of memory, do you basically trust that the top kits

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from someone like a Patriot are already binned enough or do you bin those further?

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We've been them further. Okay, so this is a particularly nice kit of this.

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Correct, super binned. God binned.

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The last thing we're gonna need before we can fire up our bench is a GPU.

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Now, we're not gonna need RTX 5090 performance for the first record we're chasing

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because it's solely concerned with CPU benchmarks.

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But it's here already anyway. It's subzero prepped with plastic dip all over it,

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not to mention paper towel. And it's hooked up to Bruce Chillis,

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our industrial chiller, which we don't have to run at subzero speed.

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So we're probably just gonna run it at, you know, 10, 20 C for starters.

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Let's get this on here. Now that the bench is together, it's time to fire up the chiller.

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But there's a specific launch sequence starting with the first phase.

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If you haven't seen part one, this is a cascade system that essentially uses

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a refrigeration system to cool a refrigeration system,

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to cool a third refrigeration system in order to reach ungodly low temperatures.

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We're expecting negative 90 Celsius on our CPU,

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rock freaking solid. But we can't just turn on the compressors willy-nilly.

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We've got to turn on the first phase first, which is the bottom one.

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Correct, neat. Because Charles actually legitimately doesn't know

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how much power it draws. This will be fun for both of us.

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We got a few kilowatts and we're gonna hook them all up in line with,

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here we go, our power. Ah, it's alive.

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Oh, what do we got? What do we got? Oh, 116.7 volts.

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941, 941 watts. Just a few.

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So you can see why Intel's recent woes around power consumption of their chips

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doesn't bother him. His cooler, a third of it, draws 1,000 watts.

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Now that the first two phases are kind of settled in, they're at 700, 750 watts each,

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but we haven't even added the third phase yet.

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I can't read it. What does it say? Said 250.

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Oh, that's not bad. And then it jumped to 1,100. That's a lot more.

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And now we're settling in around the same. Now we know how much power it consumes.

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Now let's see how much power it can make. Oh, wow.

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We're already at 13 below. 17, 20.

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I guess we can turn on the computer, hey? Charles actually brought up an overclocking buddy of his.

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They're a member of the same team. This is Max, it's actually his memory that we're borrowing.

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And board. So do you wanna tell us what you're changing? We're going to change the performance preferences

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from the Intel default settings to the ASUS advanced OC profile.

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Well, multi-core enhancement, we are going to enable it and remove all the limits.

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We're going to set manual for AI overclock tuner.

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NPU boost level three, DRAM timing control. The Apex has a lot of nice, useful profiles.

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You have 9,600 gear four for the 24 gig sticks.

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Oh, cool. 9,000 for the 16 gig sticks and the 24 gig sticks.

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So we're gonna run 9,000 on the 24 gig sticks and just leave it at that.

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So you don't even have to tune any of the sub timings or any of that crap, they just did all the work for us.

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Yep, make it really easy. Now, is that something that you would find on anything other than like an Apex,

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like a top tier board? I think the lower end boards do have some features.

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The Strix does have that. The Strix has that as well, very good. We aren't as aggressive.

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I don't think you're going to be running 9,000 on a four dim stick. Well, the cache is 49.

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49? Seems high, but. If you want to go 48, that's fine.

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All right, we'll go 48 for the start. We'll take it to 48. Hacking the main frame.

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So the D2D ratio is the interconnect. There is a chiplet design.

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So you have your SOC on here, your memory controller

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is I think on there too. And if we cared about onboard GPU performance, for instance,

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maybe we'd care about that or? Yeah, it increases performance across the board.

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Memory band with really high speeds, with like no NPU boost on this.

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That's right, the IMC is on a separate chiplet, isn't it?

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Latency is kind of an issue. Intel, okay, you'll get them next time, boys.

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It's a very strange design. It's effectively a monolithic CPU

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that is a chiplet on a single die. So we're going to change our V-Core to 1.35 volts.

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That's all we need, huh? You tend to not need as much voltage as you would

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going to the colder you go, but it really is dependent on the chips. There's a leakage factor,

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which is how much power these chips draw. And typically a higher leakage chip

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will require less voltage and will scale better with temperature. Ironically, the leaky chips are not necessarily

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the ones that Intel wants for the chips they're going to ship to consumers.

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They tend to not be as efficient when you're operating them normally.

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And then we're going to change it to from regulation mode, which is using the DLVR on the CPU.

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So the VRM will output a higher voltage to the CPU

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and the CPU steps it down. We're going to bypass that with power gate mode.

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Got it. So we're just going to let our board do the work because we know that we have an outstanding board

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that's going to deliver nice stable power. Something we'd never recommend that you actually do

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for real world performance, but if you're just trying to chase the highest possible number.

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It is very fun. Once we're done running PCMark 7, it'll have the screen up with the result.

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We're going to open up four copies of the CPU ID. We're going to set up four boxes.

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We're going to set up the CPU, the amount of the board, the memory tabs.

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And then we're going to do a screenshot. And then we're going to have a world record for you.

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That easy? That easy. You got to be kidding me.

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Well, we got to save the result. All right, here we go.

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PCMark 7, let's go boys. Wait, before we actually do the run,

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I mean, can we just put it under load and see how stable the temperature is?

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Okay, okay. W prime? Yep.

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Okay. Are we at 64.4? Yeah, okay. It's a very popular older benchmark.

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Wait. We got down. Did that run? Yeah.

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It didn't even move. That is crazy.

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It's gone up a degree and a half. And so my expansion valve will kick in

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and it'll compensate for the load. Balance out now. It is so cool.

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And we're going the other way now in temperature. Look at this.

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Yeah, he's right. That's the wrong way. He's right. We're going back down.

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We went from negative 104.4 to like 0.5, 0.6,

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back to 0.5 still. It'll fluctuate a little bit. We're within like 0.3.

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0.5, yeah. But with the e-cores on and running around 5.8 or 5.7,

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we might have like a two degree fluctuation. And that's with a 285K.

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With the Raptor Lake, we might have like a four degree. Right.

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He's on the Intel team, but you know, if we're being honest, she was a hungry boy.

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So we're just finishing up and we're at our coldest temperature yet. So we're pretty damn stable

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if we're able to run like a stability test right now. So this is a thermal expansion valve right here.

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And this is a expansion valve that responds under load. So now it'll go back down in temperature again

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as we have no load. Right, okay. But then it'll go, oh, hold on a second.

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We're good. I don't need all of this extra coolant

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and it'll back it off. Yeah. Cause there's nothing you can do

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about the temperature of the refrigerant, right? It's within reason, right?

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You're not going to run your compressors at like a variable load.

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This is not a sophisticated, you know, modern heat pump or air conditioning system.

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These are running at a fixed speed.

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So what you would do then to achieve this kind of temperature control is you're adjusting the flow rate

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through the evaporator head. So it's the, my understanding is the temperature

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of the refrigerant should be basically the same ish. Correct.

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But we just juice it way more when we need more cooling.

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Right, it opens up the valve more. Cool. Are we ready to do the run

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or did you guys need to go double check something? No, no, we're all good to go.

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We just got to press the go button. Yeah, you can really see how much he runs benchmarks.

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Is it the current world? Yep, that is. Do you ever run actual video games?

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Yeah. Oh, okay. I mean, some people get, they get so into the benchmarking

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they don't actually game. What's your game right now? Well, I just finished up battlefield four is Riker.

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Riker, sorry. He's still working his way through his backlog. Yeah.

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Okay, so we're ready. Okay, so we're gonna go. Click the go button. All right, I click go.

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I mean, we're all on the same page that just because I click go doesn't mean I set the record.

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Like this is- No, no, no, you click go, you set the world record. Yeah, I really don't think that's how it works.

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It's how it works. I really- I set the rules, that's how it works.

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How long does this take to run? So this is 15, 20 minutes. But actually what's hard about this for the Ellen too guys

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is the duration of this benchmark and pouring and keeping this thing under a consistent load.

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As to where the cascade can keep this under a very consistent load for a very long duration.

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In case you have to rerun it and rerun it again and rerun it again.

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Right. The cascade, you can just rerun this thing all day long and have it consistent runs every single time.

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So it's gonna be extremely hard to catch your score. Right, got it.

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It's gonna be extremely hard. My score. You're gonna be on the world record rankings

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for a long time and let the other guys chase you down.

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Good luck. Oh, we didn't get it on the first run.

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That's his fault. Can you stop assigning blame to everyone around here?

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Hey, he told me what settings to put in. He did do that. But you had the RAM set up though.

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Yeah. That's weird, that's not memory. Yeah, because it meant that that could be memory.

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That is CPU, I know for a fact it is. That wasn't CPU, we'll need a minute.

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Now you guys tuned one more thing. This is our third run.

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What did you guys change? The NPU boost, I dropped it down.

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But we're still at 9,000 mega transfers on the memory. I think about there.

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It's gotta be 15,017. Oh.

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So it'll take two runs. So close.

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We're so close. We got this.

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Okay, we got this, we got this. Graphics 315, we just need to bring up our GPU

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just a little bit. Oh yeah, we could do that. Just bring up our GPU a little bit and we're there.

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And now we play the waiting game. Here we are, run number two.

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Well, three, but who's counting? Oh no. Oh, it was data file corruption.

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Yeah. So we made it this far and then it's upset

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that it doesn't know the CPU name. Third time's a charm.

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This is a third run, right? Sure. I mean, it's movie magic. It can be whatever run you want it to be.

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If you edit it, it can be the first. All right. Oh, it went down.

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How'd we go down? You're on frame for a second to go up. You didn't put any GPU clock on it, man.

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Oh, I rebooted. One moment, please.

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Time to get the results from our second attempt.

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Movie magic, right? The same error again?

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Get CPU name. Big moment.

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First run.

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Next plan. We're gonna try and adjust the cache speed a little bit.

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Maybe try to tune the CPU speed up a little bit. We got second place again, but not quite.

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First place. What do you think's up? Well, if we look at the GPU Z tab here,

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we have our 59, is it 6X? It says it's 16X, right, gen five.

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Running it. But it's actually 8X. The SSD is in the wrong slot.

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Had it in the correct slot earlier, I don't know if somebody moved it or not. It got pulled and put back in at one point.

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Linus isn't here, so we'll blame him. Yes, we'll blame him. I'm pretty sure we have it on video that it was him.

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Okay, then let's move that over and let's try again.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, you guys blamed me for putting in the SSD.

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I didn't put in the SSD. Yeah, because you moved the 5090. I actually know who put it in.

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Oh, who? Unlike you guys.

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It was not me. I'm not a filthy rat, so I would never rat.

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Wait, do you have footage of who put it in? No, I don't, maybe.

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Editor, roll the clip if there is one. Oh, oh my God.

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Seriously? Well, fortunately it's only our first run.

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In case you're curious about the finer details, we just the CPU clocks a little bit,

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just the cache, and this is gonna be it.

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Ninth run. First try. Yeah, first try.

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Man, it's gonna be cool when we nail this. We got this. On the first try.

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Oh my God, it's so close. It's so close. Thousand watt BIOS?

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Ah? I think so. I think that would do it. On the next first try, we're gonna nail it.

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On the next first try. Yay, there it is.

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Nice, first place. Good job. Taiwan number one.

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It's only first try. You got a world record. The bad news is, this took all day,

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so I guess we're not gonna get to 3DMark today, but hey, this is staying here,

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so you can expect to see plenty of shenanigans make sure you absolutely pound that subscribe button.

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Like I'm talking a hole in your TV or monitor

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so you don't miss any of the future sub-zero updates

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with Charles coming up here in the future to build a single phase,

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and also just, I don't know, man, Elijah, we're gonna have to play with this thing like lots.

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Sounds good to me. Just like I'm gonna play with our sponsor.

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It's weird, right? Yeah. If you guys enjoyed this video, maybe go check out part one

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where we unboxed what I am calling the Beast, which it turns out,

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isn't that exactly what you call it? Yes. Cool.

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We both named it the same thing. Ironically, yeah.

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Good job on the world record.
