Catchphrase like that, I guess. I have no choice but to comply.
Oh, God, are we? I'm kidding, I'm kidding. How could you do that, Dan?
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
What the hell is patet? Patet? What the hell is patet?
Whoa. Whoa, way to go, Luke.
We don't talk about patet? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Yeah. Why do you even... Oh, yeah, don't worry about it.
Oh. Okay.
Sure. Don't worry about it, dude. I mean, I'm not worried.
I'm just, you know, like, what the fuck is patet?
How have you not noticed it? Are you sure that was there before?
Well, it's never been checked, though. It's the first show I've left it checked.
Well, that's not there on mine. I know. Oh, well... But it's been there on mine for six years, seven years, maybe?
Yeah, but like... Since when do we stream to it, though?
Oh, it's just a test. I know. No, I don't understand what it is.
I'm not a fucking idiot. Just mean, like...
What is this? I just mean, like, why is it here now?
Oh, I'm sure AJ's just testing something. Oh, okay, all right, all right. Fine, I'll allow it.
Oh, okay.
No, AJ, don't do your job. Yeah. Okay.
Go home. Wait, he works from home.
Go home, go france! Now he's going to be mad.
Now he's really not going to work. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, man.
Ouch.
My ARM hurts so much. That tournament was, like, maybe not worth it.
I hurt my back and I got pretty wicked tennis elbow.
Like, I can't play. I can't, like, I can't, like, lift anything heavy.
Like, ARM hurts a lot. I need to get one of those, like, compression things.
Is it your elbow or what? You're grabbing here. What is it?
Oh, no, it's tennis elbow. So the pain is, like, here.
So it's where this, like, attaches to your elbow or whatever. It's the ligament, or whatever it is.
Is it just overuse? Yeah. It just hurts a lot.
So dumb! Nah, it was worth it.
Our bleep isn't working? Oh, f***.
Way to f***ing go, Dan.
I guess we'll find out if it works. Is it still not working?
Yeah. Okay.
Maybe I just didn't f***ing press it. Do you ever think of that?
No, you just didn't.
It does mute. So even if I forget, it's still safe.
Oh, yeah, okay. You sure? Yeah.
100%.
All right, should we do this thing?
Lol, I got tennis elbow playing Tiger Woods Golf on the Wii.
When I told my doctor about it, she laughed at me
and asked if it would be okay if she told her husband.
Also a doctor.
That's actually kind of sick. Yeah, it's pretty funny.
Go for it. I kind of like it. Yeah.
I would tell the doctor, yeah, do it. Yeah, me too. 100%.
Like you got to appreciate that she asked, but at the same time, like you got to say yes to that.
Azir Otmori asks, why do you have three AMSs for your house?
I have one with a single AMS and I don't really use the AMS too much
because I have kids and they want to print multi-colored stuff.
Yeah, and I can afford it.
I've decided I'm just going to lean into that more because like...
Whatever. Who cares? I'm just like, I'm tired of people being mad at me
for like being able to afford two additional AMSs
and a bunch of colored filament. You're not allowed to get mad at other people
for stupid purchasing decisions, apparently. Yeah.
So why do they get to be mad at you? Yeah.
Tax right off. No, no, just pot it.
Nipolas Cage says, I'm tired of rich people hoarding money and not spending it.
There you go. There you go. So I bought AMSs.
Ow, my ARM hurts so much.
It's really tight right now. I'm sorry. I'm trying to loosen it before we start the show.
All right.
Why didn't you tell us Linus, this comes completely out of left field?
Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I can feel it like loosening. You know, when you're like pressing really hard on a knot,
you can kind of feel it loosening and then you let go and it like immediately
like seizes up again. I got that going on right now.
I tried to play last night because I was like, I mean, I took a week off almost while I was traveling
and I just like played trash because I was jet-legged
and also my ARM was weak,
but now it's more than just weak. It's like re-injured again.
Way to go, Linus. You freaking idiot.
Part of the...
Part of the things I'm trying to do this year
is involving continuing the shoulder repair
and that is involving doing hangs every single day
and my forearms are just fried constantly.
I literally don't even think I could hang right now.
Yeah, I don't think I could. It would hurt too much. Yeah.
Well, I mean, I don't have... I'm not getting tennis elbow, which helps.
Yeah, that helps. It's just like max duration hanging every single day.
You get a permanent forearm pump. It's only three days in,
but I could tell it's going to be rough.
That's okay.
All right, should we do this thing?
Yeah.
His forearms are plenty strong lately, man.
Yeah, I just overdid it and I probably didn't stretch enough and stuff.
Okay, I'm doing it. I'm punching it.
Resuming the selected now. Oh, I almost clicked remove selected.
That would have been bad. That would have sucked. Yeah.
That's so annoying to fix. Yeah. Sick.
Yeah, it is fixable. It just sucks.
Okay. Here we go.
Boom. Boom.
What's up, everyone? Hello. Welcome to the WAN Show.
Yeah. We've got a great WAN Show lined up for you guys today.
I went on vacation. That's who knows going to be a great show.
Well, no, I went on vacation. I'm talking. That might make it one of the better shows.
I'm going to talk about my vacation. Yeah. I also can't believe I'm still going to be talking about honey.
Yeah. But there are actual updates, some pretty exciting updates.
So we'll be talking about that. Before vacation? The creator community, they're coming after honey.
They believe you can catch more honey with vinegar.
Yeah. Fly, you magnificent creators. What else we got today?
Switch to motherboard leaks, maybe. There's a bit of a debate.
We'll see what's going on there. Also, Half-Life 3, it's for sure a thing.
Really? You picked that? There's no way.
What other one? LLM forum traffic? Well, yeah.
The addictive feeds thing that is not going to be applied to anyone. How about if you buy a Tesla?
You can basically just have your car taken over by Tesla?
I think that's more than just Tesla, but that apparently is proven true for Tesla.
The show was brought to you today by Squarespace, Notion, and the Lexar.
And of course, our usual laptop spartner.
Laptop spartner? Spartner. Laptop spartner.
Spartner. Spartner ditch and spartner.
Sorry. Are the laptop spartner LG our wrap partner dbrand and our chair partner secret lab?
Wow, it's going to be a show today.
Why don't we kick things right off with, I can't believe I'm still talking about honey.
I honestly did a terrible job of this segment last week, which is par for the course for
me, which is great. The reality of it was I hadn't slept very much and the reality of it is I didn't sleep
much this week either. I went to Europe this week.
Yeah. I left and came back from Europe this week.
So that should give you some idea of where I'm at right now.
Anyway, we dropped honey as a sponsor three years ago because we learned about their link
hijacking. Link hijacking sucked for us, but as far as we knew then had no impact on the user.
We had no idea about the alleged other misdeeds until that story broke last month.
In hindsight, it is possible that if we had made a video three years ago, it could have
saved creators some money. Given that the vast majority of creators, however, stopped working with them around that same
time, I don't know that for sure. What I do know is that if we'd made that video, it might not have gone very well for us.
Like, for instance, I'm going to interject here. This isn't in the notes.
What you're referring to as honey is, in fact, B shit plus honey.
Sorry. No, it's like at that time.
Yeah. Okay. We could have made a video.
We were being inundated with links and shares and whatever about this from other creators
at the time. Well, no, I know. It didn't get a crazy amount.
I'm talking to them. Oh, yeah. It didn't get a crazy amount of views.
It didn't blow up like this. Yeah. I think probably because it was mostly-
Well, it wasn't set to ominous music that time. Well, and it was anti-creator, not anti-user at that time.
Sure. So, most of the creators that I knew knew about it and were also getting spammed about it,
because it was tweeted to me back then.
The bigger issue is that if we had made a video, it may have actually been a really bad
look for us. Think about it.
If I made a video imploring our audience to uninstall an extension that purportedly-
Remember, this is- we have to look at it in terms of the information we had at the time.
At the time. If I told everybody, uninstall honey!
An extension that supposedly gets them a better deal because I wasn't making enough money
from it? Do you really, honestly, ask yourself, truly, think that would have gone good for me?
I'm going to interject again with another weird thing.
Like, when we first started, if you monetized anything to any degree, even if you turned
on ads on YouTube at all, which you could turn them off back then, and it would actually
work, you would be flamed. Now, four years ago, that wasn't the case anymore, but I think the point Luke's trying
to make is this- It's changed over time. This perception, this acceptance of creators needing to make money.
The number of comments we'd get in the early days, like, get a real job!
You know, that doesn't happen anymore at all. Now people ask for ads on Twitch and stuff.
Get that bad girl. And it's a very, very different mentality.
We have to put ourselves in the frame of mind of what things were like four years ago.
And four years ago, if I'd said, uninstall this extension that gets you a better deal
so I don't get my affiliate revenue- You've gotten flayed.
I'd have gotten destroyed! Look how much flak I take if I remind people that ad blocking is piracy, in that it circumvents
compensating the creator. Watch how predictably the chat is going to blow up, saying that that's totally different!
It's not totally different!
It's a little different. It's related, though. It's very closely related.
And everyone's mad at me.
It's that simple. I'm spreading the word for the smaller creators.
That argument doesn't save me there, and it's not going to save me if I tell people to uninstall
this extension that gets them a better deal so that smaller creators can get their affiliate revenue.
Are you kidding me? There is just no way that I make that video, and I don't end up hanging from the nearest tree.
I mean, now that we found out that Honey is harming the consumer, obviously f**k him.
Like, obviously. But again, we didn't-
I don't know how many times I have to say this.
We didn't know about that.
We didn't say anything because we didn't know about that, and we had no reason to.
And that's another thing. We don't shout it from the rooftops every time we stop working with a sponsor, and neither does anybody.
That is such a weird, bizarre expectation that some people seem to have.
And we've stopped- well, that's a very modern thing, too, on YouTube.
Is it? The company expose thing, I think, is fairly different.
We've stopped working with the NFL to replace Monday Night Football with a three-hour special
about not using surface tablets anymore when the sponsorship ends.
Of course not. That would be spectacularly unprofessional.
We've stopped working with a bunch of different sponsors because of getting customer reports
from our viewers and how they had bad experiences with them.
We didn't shout from the rooftops. We just stopped working with them.
Yeah, and if they clean up their act, we might start working with them again.
Obviously that's the case, to be honest. And again, and oh my God, this piece is so important for everyone who somehow missed it before.
It turns out we didn't need to make that video because plenty of other creators stopped working
with Honey around the same time we did. Just because nobody else or some people didn't notice, there was a big news cycle around this.
And it spread like wildfire in the creator community.
Wasn't as big as this one. No, obviously not. But it was a big deal, I remember.
But creators knew. We found out. We found out multiple times by being bombarded.
That's how we found out. There was also a lot of creators individually sharing it between each other, but not like
with links through texts or whatever, not as videos.
Another major thing that I missed last week is that, yeah, as we said in our response
to Megaleg, obviously this situation raises the question of should we look at our policy
of leaving our sponsor spots in our videos in perpetuity.
That has been what we've done traditionally because, as you know, I've always been a bit
of a, well, once it's out there, it's out there kind of person.
I don't believe in deleting our, I don't believe in deleting our history.
I don't believe in revising our history. Yeah.
Evergreen's also less of a thing now. However, that's true.
And also this situation where it turns out it was harmful is clearly, it is clearly
something we haven't really had to tackle before.
Yeah. Like at worst, our sponsor spots have ended up outdated, right?
But yeah, that's a decision that is not the kind of thing that we just do immediately.
You also have to work with YouTube on that.
No. No, that can be done. Oh, you can trim it?
You can trim it, but it's very manual. It's very tedious.
It screws up things like closed captions sometimes. And timestamps.
So it screws up timestamps. So it's not cut and dried either.
So it'll screw up the timestamps on every single WAN Show that Honey ever sponsored,
which this may surprise you, but a lot of people go back and watch old WAN Show.
I don't get it either, but they do. I'll never understand.
Our discussion question. Are we joining the class action started by LegalEagle?
The TLDR here is that LegalEagle has posted a video announcing a class action lawsuit against Honey
on behalf of any creators that may have been impacted by Honey's actions.
As far as I can tell, that would be basically any creator that ever used affiliate links.
And I mean, I know the answer to this, but what are your thoughts on that?
Should we join the class action? Well, there's actually a line here that says impacted creators can visit honeylawsuit.com to join,
but maybe talk to a lawyer before you do. And I would lean on that.
We're not going to be joining regardless. Maybe we should talk to a lawyer before we do.
No, I've talked about this before, but I'm not particularly litigious.
It's not really my way. I tend to see lawsuits and in particular class action lawsuits as a mechanism to enrich lawyers
and really not much of anyone else. That's very true.
You're going to get like five bucks from this. You might get more.
There are class actions where the payout is like a thousand bucks and maybe even more.
I don't know. What I can tell you now, though, is that I doubt that's going to happen.
What I suspect is that this is this could very well end up just being for show.
Like I kind of doubt that this is going to go anywhere.
But if it does go somewhere, hey, you know what?
Paypal sideways. This whole thing totally sucked.
And especially now that we know so much more of what they're doing with honey, it's obviously lame.
But it's just it's not my style, guys.
I have never had to sue anybody and I would like to keep it that way as long as possible.
I've been put in uncomfortable positions before in the past where it seemed like it was kind of an inevitability.
But every time we have been able to find a resolution, which is always the way that I would prefer to go.
And so, yeah, this is this is just not really my not really my stoyle.
Drop PayPal on the LTT Store. I don't think that's viable.
I think that would be too much. Yep.
Self damage. Thank you for the suggestion. I will file it away with all of the other suggestions.
I would love if PayPal stopped really being a thing, though.
I would love of that. Me too.
As someone who has to. Let's take crypto. Oh, no.
As someone who has to deal with taking PayPal payments, it's not awesome.
There are better credit card processors these days.
They used to be a big problem. Another reason why people argue for PayPal is often because it's an easy way to have your card saved.
But there are other ways to do that. You can save your card and password managers.
You can do other things like that where it can still auto fill and be easier for you.
There are ways around it. Judge says we will still support PayPal because it makes us too much money.
PayPal absolutely enables us to make money as creators in that context taking payments on the store.
But what it also does is it enables people who don't necessarily have credit cards to purchase from LTT Store.
Right. When we have PayPal disabled.
And actually. People rage. This is like the community would be very mad situation.
More recently we encountered this when HexOS launched.
Ashtack reached out to me. They were like, yeah, we had no idea how important PayPal was.
We didn't really have all the reconciliations figured out on the back end for how the money was supposed to flow
and how to account for it and everything.
It's a thing. It's a thing because you might get money in different currencies and stuff.
It's a whole thing. Accepting a new payment method is not just turn on another payment method.
It's not that simple. They hadn't figured out some of the back end stuff for themselves.
They were like, f**k it, we'll turn it on.
Because so many people were inundating them with requests.
No, not that back end. No, accounting.
Because they're still a really small company. So anyway, they were being inundated with requests to turn it on.
They turned it on. Like immediately, like floodgates open.
Because there's a lot of people who just... People are completely die hard PayPal.
We've tried to get away from it before and people were very unhappy.
Like it says, if you want a really fast way to piss your users off, do that.
But I mean, if you independently stop using it and start shifting to other things, hey, nice.
Not going to be unhappy about that. Back end requests asks Krusty Trombone.
Whatever did happen to the only fans?
Anyway, in summary, honey bad, obviously.
LTT bad, I guess.
Yeah. Sure.
Whatever. I fully expect that to be Dick Sertow's headline this time.
Line that says LTT bad.
Well, I mean, it's one of those funny things where it's like...
On the one hand, they kind of try to be like real creator news or whatever and like kind of journalism.
But on the other hand, they just like make obvious mistakes.
Like I saw... Is that journalism these days?
Well, maybe they're legit.
Their article from last week alluded to the gamers Nexus video that prompted Linus to step down as CEO and hire Taren Tong.
Oh, wow. It's like... That's not the series of events at all.
No. No. I actually stepped down months before.
But it's amazing how many people do think that.
Because... Well, probably more now.
Yeah. Because they didn't bother to like, I don't know, fact check anything, which is ironic.
I definitely appreciate the irony here.
Okay, let's get Linus away from this topic.
Do you want to talk about vacation? No.
Okay. Actually, it was great. One downer.
Remember the RGB coat? Yeah.
Okay, I couldn't find the right battery bank. I went to the Apple store.
It needs a specific battery bank? It needs a super high powered PD battery bank.
So I went to the Apple store to try and buy the most powerful battery bank that they had in order to power it.
Because I wanted to wear that light up RGB fur coat to Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat in Edinburgh.
Anyway, so I go to the Apple store and I'm like, okay, I need...
Well, first things first, I don't see any products in here that are third party.
Do you not carry accessories? They carry accessories at my Apple store at home.
They're like, oh, we got a second floor for that. I go, oh, wow.
Okay. So I go upstairs.
And it's, yeah, it's all accessory land.
I go and I find battery bank land and I'm like...
Like, really? Oh, shoot.
Who was the bloody brand? Mophie.
Mophie. So I pick up this Mophie battery bank, which is like 200 pounds.
Not weight. No, I know. Yeah, anyway.
So it's 200 pounds. The reaction is the same. It's a lot of money.
It's a lot of money. And I'm looking at the thing. I'm going, this doesn't even say like what voltages and amperages it supports.
It just says, I think it said... That's pretty basic.
Did it say 45 watts? I think it might have, but it didn't, but it didn't get into like exactly which...
Didn't break it down. So I go to ask someone. I'm like, hey, this seems to be a demo box because it's like a shared box for two different
capacities. And she's like, no, no, that's the box. Like, that's the box.
I'm like, that, that doesn't really make any sense. Can you bring me this one? The like the non plus one, whatever the smaller one, because I didn't want to spend another
50 pounds. So she brings it to me and no, it is not in fact the same box.
It is a box for that product, but it still didn't have like the PD specs on it.
And I'm like, okay, I like, I'm pretty sure this supports PD because it's like 45 watts
or whatever. But I like, I would like to know like exactly, like it doesn't have a breakdown.
She's like, well, do you need, well, it's for Mac.
And I'm like, no, no, I mean, it doesn't matter.
It is really, it's really eye opening, going shopping in like a normal store for normal people
because literally you can be an accessory salesperson at the Apple store and not know what power
delivery, like PD power delivery is, USB-C PD.
Because it's just for iPhone or for Mac.
And if it's for iPhone, it doesn't have PD.
And if it's for Mac, it has to have PD. In fact, did he even say how many watts?
I don't even, I don't even remember. There was a reason that I needed more information about it.
Anyway, I bought it and unfortunately it wasn't enough.
So it was like flashing. Like would have been seizure inducing potentially on one side of it.
So I didn't get to wear it to the play. But the good news is it was.
Awesome. Amazing. Let's go.
Okay. The set design and production values were like a high school musical.
They were terrible. Like actually it was like we found a scrap, some scraps of cloth and we kind of stretched them out
and that's a desert now. You know, we, whatever, it was awful.
But I didn't figure out until after, I didn't actually know the history of Joseph and the
Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. So it was written by Andrew Lloyd Webber, who's known for, you know, small plays you may have
never heard of like Cats, Phantom of the Opera and things like that.
But it was actually written as a high school musical.
And it was written when he was very young. He collaborated with Tim Reis.
It was only 20 minutes in its initial iteration. It was because someone like desperately needed a play that they could put on.
They were like, I don't know, some Bible story. We'll just do that. That's, that's how it started, which I didn't know.
So the more I thought about it, the more I've gone, maybe that was.
Maybe that was on purpose because they clearly did not cheap out on the production overall.
The cast was phenomenal.
I don't think you've ever seen Joseph. Yeah.
Okay. Well, if you have, you'll know that the narrator is actually in some ways the bigger star of
the show than Joseph himself.
And she was fabulous.
She was absolutely incredible. She crushed it.
She was so funny. She actually ended up playing Jacob, Joseph's father as well, just with like a beard.
So she'd like his part and then sing her part.
And it sounds really bad.
And at that point, like very early in the play, I was still a little concerned about the like
perceived production values and set design and like, okay, so they didn't bother to cast
anyone for Jacob. This is very interesting.
But she absolutely killed it. Joseph was like pretty good, but it kind of doesn't really matter.
And then the real reason that I was there, the real reason that I got off of my butt,
got onto a plane, flew all the way to Scotland to Edinburgh to see this was that it was Donnie
Osman's last performance. I actually didn't know until we were in the middle of his performance.
He broke character. He broke the fourth wall and talked about like how emotional it was for him and like how much
he loves this show. He did 2,000 performances as Joseph back in the 90s.
I saw him as Joseph in the 90s. It was one of the first musicals I saw.
It's like a core memory for me because it was so good.
I like bought the album in the lobby, listened to it over and over and over and over and
over and over again. Like it was one of those things, right? So he like breaks the fourth wall, talks about how cool it is to be like back as Pharaoh
now, not as Joseph. So he plays the Pharaoh, the older guy.
He gives Joseph on screen. He kind of shows him here. Okay, here's how I did that move because there's like a little hip wiggle that Joseph's supposed
to do. And then he does his number and then at the end of it, he goes, you guys want to see it
again? And obviously the crowd.
Look, I'll say this. One of the most fun live viewing experiences I've ever had was watching a hockey game at
the Bell Center. Bell Center is wild. That's the home of the Montreal Canadiens or the abs, excuse me.
So the crowd's just, they're incredible.
They're so into it. It's like you see it like a big soccer game except hockey.
But I've never been to a soccer game.
So I can't speak from experience. What I can say is Bell Center, incredible atmosphere.
This was like watching a theater production in the Bell Center because the audience, like
all gray hairs, like gray beards and stuff, because it's like the theater or whatever,
but they were so into it. There was like six standing evasions throughout the play.
Like they would just do a great job of a number and everyone would be like, just losing it.
Absolutely losing it. That's cool. So yeah, so when Donnie like asked, okay, you guys want to see it again, the entire house
just completely lost it. The guy is such an incredible performer.
Yeah, it was utterly unforgettable. That's cool.
Amazing. And then the real reason that I even knew about this, so yeah, I didn't find out that
it was his last performance until he said, he said like, yeah, this is it, you know.
So it was so cool. They brought him back to do Pharaoh for this production.
It was so cool that I was able to be there for the last one.
And oh man, where was I going with this?
Anyway, it was awesome. Unforgettable.
Anyway, the only reason that I knew that this was on was because Yvonne signed up for like
the Andrew Lloyd Webber play, you know, upcoming news bulletin or whatever, because I've been
to New York like, I don't know, 10 times in the last decade because of work usually, but
sometimes for pleasure. And I've never bothered to go see Phantom.
I've been to tons of stage plays in New York. I saw Book of Mormon there.
I saw Aladdin. I saw, oh, more recently, I saw Great Gatsby.
That was incredible. Probably the best stage production I've ever seen if you're in New York.
Go see it now. Go see it now. Don't miss that cast.
They're incredible. Anyway, so, but every time I'd be like, I don't know, Phantom will probably go for another
30 years anyway. So I don't really need to go see it.
And then they finally closed it. So I was like, ask. I've been meaning to see the bloody thing because it's like iconic, right?
So anyway, the only reason I knew was because she found out about Joseph as like a footnote
on the, hey, Phantom's playing in London like thing.
And so it just worked out that way.
And then so, so we left Edinburgh and we went to London to see Phantom and Phantom was like
totally overrated. It was completely like fit.
The cast did a great job. Like the singing was incredible.
Is that the first time you've seen Phantom? I've never seen it.
Yeah. So my parents saw Phantom forever ago and they really liked it.
Yeah. If you're into opera, I imagine that would help a little bit.
I don't know if they are, to be honest.
But I just, I just didn't, I didn't, I didn't really.
Yeah, I didn't, it didn't, it didn't really do it for me.
Maybe it's just showing its age a little bit. Maybe part of it was coming off the high of seeing Joseph the previous day.
Like I saw Hades Town in New York as well.
And it's so well reviewed. It's so popular, but I saw the night after I saw Great Gatsby and Great Gatsby just
absolutely crushes it. Like it's not even close.
So that, that may be, that may be a problem.
Yeah. Yeah. People are talking about like plays that they like, yeah, I saw Wicked down in Seattle
when they were touring. That was, oh, so good. I haven't seen the movie yet.
I saw Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe as a kid.
And that, yeah, that sold me. I had to read the books.
I got into Turkish Delight. Just, yeah.
Really? Oh yeah. Huh, interesting.
My, when, when we read Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe in elementary school, like my teacher
read it to us as part of just, I don't know, literature, I guess.
Cause people used to read books. She brought in Turkish Delight at the end.
Oh really? So we could all try it. And we universally thought it was kind of not very great.
Did you have Rose? I don't know. Okay.
Well, there's some that have like good flavors and then there's Rose.
And Rose is like fairly traditional, but it's terrible.
Oh, interesting. They flavor it off of roses. I don't know who thought that was a good idea.
Yeah, okay. Some people are probably going to be mad now, but like the Rose ones taste like trash.
Fair enough. I don't know.
Rose water flavor. Yeah. Like, ah, I don't know.
Cool. Turkish Delight tastes like old ladies perfume.
So that's the Rose stuff. You got to get other stuff.
Rose water is very common in old Ottoman cuisine.
Yeah. Fascinating. Turkish old Ottoman makes sense.
Okay. Yeah. All right.
Well, cool. What else are we supposed to be talking about?
Oh, Dan. That was topic two.
Oh, should I, is there anything else to talk about in vacation?
Edinburgh is amazing. London is- Is there anything else to check out plays?
We were there for a few days at least. Dude, I was there for two days.
Oh. So we did check out the Christmas Market. Travel time, travel time, I guess.
Yeah. We did check out the Christmas Market. We did go see the big castle in Edinburgh.
That was it. We only saw the outside. They had like sold out for the day.
But we walked the like royal mile thing and checked out some of the shops.
Bought Yvonne a nice tuk because the tuk she brought with her was making her forehead itchy.
And I was like, I mean, we're in the home of, we're in like land of Kashmir.
So like, I don't know, get a nice tuk.
Get a cool tuk. Yeah. Yeah.
So we did that. Had some good food. Yeah.
Edinburgh amazing. London. I don't know.
It's a big city. It doesn't do much. It doesn't do much for me, but I'm sure that I like, I didn't go to Buckingham Palace.
I don't really like care about the Royals or anything. So it's all about like what you're into.
You know, I was really surprised at how much Harry Potter there still is over there.
Like you cannot go anywhere without tripping over a bakery that's selling cupcakes with
golden snitches on them. There's a lot of tourism for it.
Is there still? Because they have like the, I don't know, whatever.
Isn't Harry Potter like dead at this point?
Like didn't Voldemort kill him? You know? No.
No. Right. Right.
Right. Cause he killed his own, he killed his own soul, which was in front of Harry or something.
But it like made Harry dead for a bit and then, and then Dumbledore was there.
But, but death is permanent. That's pretty well established in that universe.
So how are we talking to Dumbledore? I don't know. Maybe it was a hallucination.
It doesn't matter. It's magic.
Spoilers. Come on, you guys. Stop it.
Get over it. Oh no. Stop if it's right.
But yeah, no, I don't think so to be honest. I don't think it's over at all.
But Fantastic Beasts was so bad. Yeah.
But then you look at like the, what was that game that no one's allowed to talk about?
That came out like two years ago or something? Hogwarts Legacy?
Well, it was sold like the most of anything that year, but no reported on it.
And then it was like completely absent at the game awards and everything.
Yeah. But it's sold like crazy. Oh, I know.
Like absolutely like crazy. People are still into the universe.
I tried to play it. I didn't really enjoy it.
I don't want to. I got a couple hours in. I think games have just gotten too complicated for me.
Like there's like. Because you want to be able to dive in and dive out.
There's like, there's so many different controls. And then I went like three weeks without playing it because dots.
Yeah. And then I tried to get back into it. I was even just, I was trying to play.
Yvonne and I started Unraveled 2 or Unraveled 2.
And so far in one native like gaming session, we managed the tutorial.
And then now we're going to go to jump back into it. And I'm like, oh my God.
And so you can like hitch a ride. And you hold the trigger to like hold on to the thing and just swing the thing.
And like, oh, okay. What happened to like B is jump, A is spinny jump.
Y is run and X is just like kind of an extra button because we just didn't really need
four buttons because our last console had two buttons.
Like I, I don't know. Guys, there's people debating.
I didn't say it was fun or not. All I said was it sold a lot.
This is, relax. This is why no one can talk about that game.
Why? Why do you hate hamburgers?
You poke to the bear. This is what you get. Why do you hate hamburgers that became hot dogs?
Let's go ahead and move on. Let's leave immediately.
Dan, what are we talking about?
Why don't we, why don't we do a merge messages and some announcements and get some more topics.
Come on. That's funny. All I said was it sold a lot.
It's funny, isn't it?
You can go the other way too.
If I'm canceled, like you're out of work anyway.
You might as well get canceled with me. I don't think that's how that works.
It doesn't matter at that point. Proxy cancel.
My goodness. Oh man.
Okay, merge messages. So the way merge messages work, if you guys want to interact with the show, the best way is a merge message.
You head to lttstore.com, add something to your cart. You'll get a little box there that sends us a merge message.
It goes to producer Dan, who will reply to it himself.
Give him something to do. He was sitting there looking distinctly unbusy.
Forlorn. He'll forward it to someone who can help you.
He'll pop it up down there at the bottom of the screen, or he will curate it for me and Luke to respond to on the show.
While you guys think of some good merge messages, why don't I, oh, why don't, oh, why don't I tell you about a few announcements?
What are you getting? We have a new product.
It's the long sleeve hooded t-shirt. Oh, he's wearing it already.
Look at that. It's your favorite t-shirt, reimagined.
All the lightweight comfort of our custom tees, combined with the versatility of a hoodie.
It's great for wearing on its own or layering under a t-shirt like all the cool kids do at the skate park.
And you know what's from lttstore because it even has custom, oh, these are so cool.
They are pretty cool. It even has custom printing on the drawstrings that say, do not drop.
Eh, very, very tracute.
You can kind of make it out there. I mean, it's our typical stealthy branding.
Just got a cute little retro pink and blue LTT logo on the bottom.
And that is about it. We like to keep things pretty stealthy around here.
LMG.GG slash hooded t.
But if long sleeve hooded t's aren't your thing, we just want to let you know that the LTT mod mat is coming soon.
And we mean it this time. You can sign up to be notified exactly when it drops at LMG.GG slash mod mat.
There's a couple of samples behind us that we can show off if we wish.
Dan, do you want to go ahead and copy the link to all of the various chats?
Sure thing. Yeah, do you want to show the tube?
Designed by, packaging designed by the one. The only Miss Sarabha.
I believe. I'm pretty sure she did it. It looks like she did it.
Now this is going to be pretty embarrassing for me if she didn't do it.
It's a fairly tight fit, which is why I think they gave us one knot in the tube.
Yes.
Yeah, so okay, I'll show that one. So it looks a little something.
Alexis, note the high quality printing.
This is truly a class leading product. We're really excited about this one.
Let's just go to the wide cam because it's pretty big. It's got all the various information that you guys would want.
We've got a nice little legend up here with, or sorry, a legend for wiring diagram.
So you've got like resistor capacitor fuse microphone.
We've got all the various resistance values and stuff like that.
Color coding and there you go.
Over there. Got a spot to put your LTT screwdriver.
Got a spot to put your precision screwdriver. We've got a QR code.
That's mystery what that does. We'll figure that out later. We've also got a legend for a little guide for what size your motherboard is.
If you like, I don't know. Don't know where your motherboard packaging is and you can't tell.
Radiator size guide. So you can store a radiator on there, see how big it is, 120, 140.
It's mostly just for fun. I mean, maybe you don't know that.
I don't know. Fan size guide. This one's actually very useful.
Can't tell if it's a 120 or 140. Boom. Put it down on there on the color coded dots and you will know for sure.
We've also got wiring diagrams for all your various PC connectors.
We've got a screw thread guide. This one's really, man, we spent so much time on this one making sure that it is actually
like very representative so you can really tell what screws you're supposed to use for
what. That is such a novice PC building headache.
It's figuring out exactly what screw goes into what.
Tubing size guide, M.2 size guide, including all the different keys, PCIe slot guide,
CPU size guide, including thermal paste outlines, as well as a RAM module guide, which even includes
LP cam 2 and cam 2.
So we tried to make it as comprehensive as possible.
Super high quality and very aggressive pricing.
Pineapple asks, solder proof. What we will say is it is as solder resistant as any other mod mat that we have compared
it against and we have compared it against many.
Nothing is solder proof. I would say solder quite proof.
Soldering iron. Watch your step.
It is quite stain resistant too, which is something that is very, very exciting for us,
especially when we compare to some of the competing products out there that honestly look like
sh** immediately if you get anything on them.
So it's not going to be perfect. It still does have some texture to it because we want it to be nice and grippy,
but it is much, much easier to clean.
Etherplane asks, print comes off or no?
Well, the print comes off of anything if you try hard enough.
I don't think we would ever advertise something as the print never comes off, but it is quite resistant.
Yeah, it's pretty resilient. All right.
Sweet. What else we got?
Oh yeah, one last thing. How do you like your pencils? Yeah.
Oh, the cat's out of the bag. We're making a mechanical pencil version of the scribe driver.
I definitely leaked this at some point. Oh, that's right.
I think I did. But anyway, before we actually go to production, we want to make sure we're making the pencil you want.
Oh no, we're letting them decide?
Dan's not even reading along with us in the docket, I don't think.
No, I'll post it. Do you want me to post it? Yeah, do it.
The question is simple. Do you prefer 0.5 millimeter or 0.7 millimeter lead?
Please only answer if you have an actual preference.
Otherwise, maybe just don't.
That would be great. People are going to anyways.
Yeah. See, I knew this was going to happen.
Okay, well. Is there a Firefox option?
Stop. I took it seriously for once because this is important, Luke.
Yeah. All right. It looks like about 6040 for 0.5 mil.
That makes sense. I always kind of, I was always a 0.7 millimeter kid, but I was like careless and would always break the 0.5 mils.
So I always kind of had this perception that 0.7 millimeters for like careless children and 0.5 millimeters for like, you know, writing finally and like, you know, being an adult.
So I don't know, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I'm wrong. All the 0.7 voters are like, oh.
Excuse me. Did he just say what I thought he did?
Cancellate it again! Cancellate it again! Cancellate the careless child.
A child at the lead size.
0.9 for life. I've never even heard of 0.9. Is that a thing?
It's chunky. Go figure. All right.
Linus breaking the lead is so in character for him.
Yeah, well. All right, Dan. Hit us with a merge message.
Sure. Let's do this thing. Oh my gosh.
IDLL and the Funky Bunch with games like Assassin's Creed, Shadows and Cyberpunk coming to Mac and iPad.
Do you see a bright future for gaming on Apple devices?
Yes. As long as you don't want to play all the games.
It's kind of like I see a bright future for gaming on Nintendo.
As long as you're one of like four people that still buy Ubisoft games.
Yeah. As long as you like the games for that platform, then awesome.
But I do not see an end to the x86 PC's dominance when it comes to gamer choice anytime soon.
It just doesn't seem like there's meaningful progress being made there.
And there is progress, but when I say meaningful progress, you're not going to port the entire
back catalog. You're not going to have that breadth of support from new titles.
Cyberpunk came out a little over four years ago too. I was going to say five because it came out in 2020, but it came out in December 10th of
2020. So whatever.
So to be a happy, confident Apple gamer, I think I would also want games to come out
on my platform and they come out on other platforms. Yeah.
And not be like removed from my platform. Like didn't Rocket League get straight up removed from Mac?
Was that when they got bought out?
I don't remember. I don't remember what happened. Yeah.
The macOS and Linux Steam OS versions are no longer updated or supported.
You may still be able to download these versions, but some features, et cetera, et
cetera, et cetera. Oof. Oof.
Big yikes. So that's not great for gaming on Mac.
League of Legends also dead. Yeah.
That's probably a little bit more topical and relevant. Whoa.
What's up? League of Legends being killed.
That's a huge player base. Yeah, it's huge. Rocket League is pretty solid as well, but League of Legends is massive.
I don't think that you can really make an argument that a platform, a mouse keyboard platform
where you can't play League of Legends is like highly relevant.
Yeah. That's rough. I don't know.
Apple's got this bizarre relationship with like gaming and game developers and gamers.
Always have. No, they haven't always have. Mac was the gaming platform for like desktops in the early days.
Halo. It didn't come out.
Yeah, it was supposed to though. Yeah.
And dude, like so many, my friend had a Mac.
His dad had a Mac when I was in like elementary school and like they had so many better games.
I was like, this is awesome. We had no real exposure to Mac, not just because like my parents didn't have any, but like,
I didn't know anyone with one. No, gaming on a Mac was like sick.
Oh. And they like talked about gaming in their keynotes and stuff.
Mist was a big one because Mac was like the first CD drive, right?
And then now, now you go, you like, you watch their keynotes.
You watch these like, these like old boomers trying to talk about gaming.
They have no fucking idea what they're talking about.
Despite having the biggest gaming base because of iPhone.
It's bizarre. Yeah. It's bizarre.
It's like they just see it in, in terms of like revenue numbers.
They don't, I'm not convinced that any of them actually play video games.
Yeah. Like people are talking like Oregon Trail was on Mac.
Yeah. 100%. Let's play some O'Dell Lake.
This is all to be, Let's go. There's a reference you wouldn't have expected.
To be clear. This is all like 30 years ago. I know.
I know. But I'm just saying, you said always.
You talked about this on WAN Show recently.
Words have meaning. Words have meanings. Always means always.
Yeah, fair enough. And it was not always the case.
Video games are for 0.7 millimeter lead enjoyers.
That's why they're not on Mac.
We're still, we're still about 60, 40 pulls over.
You'd probably have to be a lead enjoyer to buy a Mac for gaming these days.
It tastes so good. Hey. Dan wants the 0.9 because it gets the most calories.
Gotta keep up my winter weight.
All right. How about another?
Yeah. Sure. Loot, Liar, and Drums.
That's a new one. I like that. Nice.
What's your best three person video game? I have two buddies that play frequently, but squads are almost always four people buying,
replacing screwdriver because I lost the first one in the woods.
I mean, we're hammer 40 case, three people, Rocket League is three people. It'd be terrible if we didn't mention Trine, but that's.
Trine is old. I mean, there's four of them.
It's good though. Yeah. They're pretty samey.
They are pretty samey. I wouldn't play them close together.
There's lots of four player games you can totally enjoy as three players, like Tower Fall
Super Fun. There's five player games. You can queue as three.
Best three person video game. Someone said overcooked.
Yeah. There are five Trines. Oh, I'll show you what I know.
My goodness. Again, just don't play them too close to each other.
They're very samey. Yeah. They're good though, but just spread them out.
Shredder's Revenge. TMNT, Shredder's Revenge. Yeah, you could totally play out with three people.
It was disappointingly not that hard. And it's easy.
Yeah. You can turn it up to hardcore mode though, which we didn't do because we were playing
with children. Right. Baldur's Gate 3.
There's no real reason you couldn't do a three person play through.
I wouldn't call it a three person video game.
Yes. In my opinion, it's best with two or four, but you could totally do a three person play
through for sure. Especially if you have like one person who knows the game and they run two of the characters
and then two newer players play the other two. Four players is Helldivers.
Yeah, but you could still do three. Just fine.
I used to play Helldivers with two people. That's fine.
Wow. I think you're just, I think you're just not being very...
Okay, but you could pull in randoms as well. This guy.
So you could play the two of you in randoms. His elite gamer privilege is showing.
Like, yeah, I don't know. You could just like solo like final end game raids and wow, right?
Like, I just do it by myself. So you can too.
This guy. This guy.
Apparently dream daddy, a dad dating simulator is a three player.
No, this is single player, you guys.
Don't even. Don't even. Polycool daddy simulator.
Sure. That's the sequel. I don't know.
This can't be that bad. It's from Game Grumps. Like if you soloed Vault of Glass.
I don't even know what that is. So you play as a dad and your goal is to meet and romance other hot dads.
No, this could be that bad. Okay.
Well anyway, let's move on.
Yeah, sure. Let's do another topic. What do you want to talk about?
Do you want to talk about how Half Life 3 is really totally definitely happening this
time? For sure it is. Okay, go for it.
Signs point to the possibility of Valve working on the long-awaited third entry to the second
most influential FPS franchise in gaming history, Half Life.
Hold on a second. Who wrote this?
I think David. Are they? Is he just trying to troll people?
I'm not sure. He's got to be trying to troll people.
There's no way. There's no way.
What's the most influential thing? I don't know. You could argue.
Halo? No. Halo changed.
What? Halo changed first for tutors forever. Doom?
Doom? I can see Doom. Doom created first-person shooters more effectively.
They existed. Yeah, I don't know.
There's arguments to be made for a lot of the early stuff.
Unreal definitely changed multiplayer.
Yes. Quake changed multiplayer in a big way.
Quake basically created multiplayer Arena Shooter, didn't it?
I'm trying to remember. It wasn't a gamer back then.
Yeah. It all just based on what I know and remember.
Ricochet 2. Ricochet 2 is definitely the most influential first-person shooter of all time.
I do agree. Judge in Philippine Chat. Anyway, it's moving on before that.
It goes crazy. YouTuber and semi-reliable source of Valve leaks.
Gabe follower has made a video claiming Valve is working on the Half-Life universe again
with some moderately convincing evidence.
One, undiscovered Source 2 engine updates that more fit a Half-Life game than any current
Valve game. Two, pointing out new dev commentary in the 20th anniversary update that mentions fixing
a problem in a future installment.
Okay. And more importantly, three, claims from an insider that Valve is actively playtesting
a new Half-Life with friends and family. Can I interject for a moment?
I mean, you interjected a lot of times earlier, so I feel like I'm the owed one.
Is it not more likely that we're just going to get Project Deckard with Half-Life Alex
2 because Valve needs to sell some VR headsets?
Like, come on. We're not getting Half-Life 3, you guys.
Anyway, carry on. G-Man slash Barney Calhoun voice actor has pointed out his...
Has also posted his first... Has also posted his first non-reply tweet, thanks, since the release of Half-Life Alex.
A cryptic video using the G-Man voice referencing unexpected surprises in the future.
The actor has previously told the US gamer that he had recently worked on a blast from
the past that he would announce on my Twitter feed when I'm allowed to.
After eight years... This is all sounding a lot more like a remaster or something than now.
After eight years, Valve has finished the TF2 comic series with a final installment
with small references to the Half-Life universe.
He's been on a huge hiring spree for Project White Sands and has brought back ex-staff who
worked on Half-Life 2, Left 4 Dead, and Portal.
Maybe the Aperture Science story thread in Half-Life 2 Episode 2 can be paid off with
a Portal gun in Gordon Freeman's hand. This really...
Who wrote this story? Are you just fan-ficking like...
We're getting Artifact 2. Oh, wow.
Artifact 2. Oh, this is going to be sick. Amazing.
This is David. I like this one. This is David.
He should write more when. Here's our discussion question. Linus, why do you hate Half-Life 2 and follow up?
Why are you so wrong? Yeah, that's an interesting question. I don't hate Half-Life 2.
It's one of the few shooter games I've actually played all the way through.
I played Half-Life 2. I played Episode 1. I played Episode 2.
The only one I've said I couldn't finish is Half-Life 1, because I didn't go back
and try to play it until I had already completed Half-Life 2.
It didn't age particularly well.
I could probably list first-person shooter games that I've actually played
an entire campaign on two hands.
Far Cry 1. Great game.
Doom around that time, Doom.
Whatever that one was, I forget. Half-Life 2.
Fear.
I played that one that you made me play, Titanfall 2.
That was a good game. Great game. Okay, what else is there?
Really solid game. What? Okay, Portal.
Also, every time Steam has a sale, Titanfall 2 goes on sale for like $3.
If you haven't bought it, just buy it when it's on sale.
It's a great single-player game. Do it.
Halo 1. Have I actually played through the single-player campaign?
I think so. Maybe. Possibly.
Would have been... Yeah, no, I think I did. I think I did.
What else we got? Bioshock. Yes, I did play through Bioshock.
I may have even dragged myself through Bioshock too, but I'm not sure if I finished it.
It was terrible. No, not Fire Crystal, F-E-A-R.
I wasn't that into 2, but I liked Infinite. Oh, I played one of the Deus Ex games all the way through.
I think it was... It was like... It was supposed to be one of the bad ones or whatever, but I came into it into the franchise
later, so I enjoyed it just fine.
Maybe it was that one. It was probably one of the Deus Ex ones, and I have never...
I have actually never played a Battlefield or Call of Duty campaign all the way through.
I just didn't participate in gaming at that time, I guess.
So we're at 9. We're at 9.
They're good Marvel movie-esque campaigns, if that makes sense.
There's no real substance to them. I don't think I ended up beating Borderlands.
I got Board of Diablo First Person Shooter Edition.
Yeah, I don't think I've ever... I think I've tried a couple of them.
I've never beat any of them, because I get partway through it, and I'm just like, alright.
Yep, this is Diablo, alright. Crisis.
Yes. Oh, okay, we're over 10. You beat Crisis?
Yeah. Oh, wow. Crisis, Crisis 2.
I might have actually played all the way through Crisis 3 as well. Definitely Crisis 1 and Crisis 2.
I did very much enjoy those. I know a lot of people that played it, but not that many people that actually finished it.
Why? I don't know. Actually, I know I've seen that feedback.
Whether it's 1 or 2, I can't remember, but people are like, yeah, when the aliens show up,
it gets stupid. I was going to say when the enemies changed, but I didn't remember what they changed to.
Yeah, I thought it was fine. Yeah. I mean, you have the same problem in Far Cry.
It's the exact same problem. Have you ever played the original Far Cry? I've watched you play it, but no.
Yeah, it's the exact same problem. You start out fighting... Well, I don't know.
Are you going to play it? Probably not. Okay, whatever.
You end up fighting these insufferable rocket-absorbing monsters.
You can hit them in the face with a rocket three times.
It's like, okay, they're made of flesh and bone. Come on.
It should still work. This is such a consistent theme, and I don't know why.
I find it interesting that Warhammer, Space Marine, 40k, 2, whatever, it doesn't the other way around.
You start fighting the weird aliens, and then you end the game fighting more humanoid things,
and it starts weaker and ends stronger. It's like, what?
Sure. Okay. I don't count Shadow of the Tomb Raider.
That's third person, but I did finish that. Man, I really don't play that many games.
That's like every shooter game that I've played in the last 25 years.
My Steam told me that you bought Slay the Spire. I did.
I haven't played it yet, though. I was busy beating you to the end of Final Fantasy VI.
Did you already beat it? I haven't beaten it yet. Okay.
I don't know if this is because of some of the balance issues in the pixel remaster.
There are some significant balance issues, though.
It makes it harder or it makes it easier way?
Both. I've noticed some stuff in the pixel remaster, so I don't know if it's because of that,
or I don't know if it's because of my nostalgia glasses fading,
but it may not be as good of a game as I remember it being.
The pixel remaster has some very serious issues.
I don't know if it's caused by me setting the battle rate too fast,
but it seems like when I change it, it didn't get fixed.
I also have it set to active because I want a bit of a challenge.
I've noticed that there are certain effects, like poison, for instance.
The tech rate for it is obscene, so this probably won't spoil too much,
but there's a boss at some point that can grab you and hold you.
I think it's already happened. No, it probably hasn't. Really?
Yeah. Doesn't the tentacle guy do that? Wait, where are you at?
I fought him like twice or something, I think.
Oh, him, Ultros. Okay, sure.
The tick for the damage is obscene.
I got annihilated in that fight four times in a row,
never even really getting a chance to even hit anything.
Theola says maybe you need to cap your frame rate, but really a PC release?
In 2020, whatever. You would be very surprised.
Why? Because that is so standard, it still happens.
Because that is embarrassing. That is straight up embarrassing if that's caused by the frame rate being higher.
Why wouldn't everyone use time always forever?
Because it's harder.
It's very lazy. It's not that much harder.
It's really not that much harder.
That's it. Anyway, I've encountered a lot of stuff that's just kind of broken.
We talked about some of it last week where Cayenne or Cyan or whatever,
his sword techniques or Bushido is what it's called now.
There's supposed to be a penalty for performing the higher tier ones.
There just isn't.
I don't know, man.
Cool. Anyway, I don't want to spend a bunch of time talking about Final Fantasy 6 again this week,
but I will beat you to the end.
I have made no progress.
If you had to guess, how many hours do you think I have left?
I have no idea, but like... Well, where are you at?
At the same spot. You haven't touched it?
Again? Family games. Again?
My brother and I beat Act 2 in Baldur's Gate 3. We beat Warhammer 40k, and we got from the Meadows to the Plains in Valheim all over the Christmas tree.
This is when I ask my kids why they haven't eaten their broccoli, and they're all like, well, I ate my rice, and I ate my meat, and I ate my bubblegum.
I didn't ask about any of those things. I asked why I didn't eat your broccoli.
My current plan... Eat your gaming broccoli. I don't like Las Vegas.
I don't gamble. I don't bet. I don't do any of that kind of stuff.
I have something going on. Socializing. With who?
No one's even going to be there. Is Wendell going? Not on no.
First of all, no. Second of all... Then you may actually get some gaming done.
Because on Sunday, no one's going to be there.
I'm going down there to film something on Saturday, and then I just have to wait on Sunday.
I don't like the city that I'm going to be in. So I'm probably just going to play Final Fantasy in the hotel room all day.
Okay. I'll probably still be ahead of you.
Maybe. Is that many hours ahead? Yeah, put like 32 hours into it or something.
Don't worry about it.
Okay. And realistically, I know the game better and can probably beat it in fewer hours than
you, so that's going to be a challenge, I guess, for you.
Yeah, I often don't know where the heck I'm going.
I don't want to look things up as much as possible, so I'm often like, what?
Without spoiling anything, that gets way worse.
Okay. Way worse.
Oh, no. Cool. I'm having that problem literally right now.
Like the point of the game where I stopped was because I was looking around for like,
I think it was like 10 or 15 minutes. I could not for the life of me forget where I was supposed to go.
When you're supposed to go to the Imperial camp to go to the sealed gate.
Yeah. When I was a child and I didn't have the internet or like a guide book or anything like that,
I spent literally hours, literally hours figuring that out, hours and hours and hours.
I went to every city on the entire map multiple times trying to figure out what would trigger
anything new to happen. When you get completely freed with the airship, and so I've gone to the gate thing, the thing
happened, we're out, I'm supposed to do the next step, and then they just let you free
on the map with the airship. I literally had an immediate sense of dread.
Because I was like, there's no, there's no bounds now.
Like you gave me one line of where I'm supposed to go and I didn't recognize where that was
and now you're just like, good luck. Like what does that mean?
I also don't remember what you said. So, uh...
Yeah. What? You can't replay cutscenes.
No. Heaven forbid you be able to do that. Like...
Sounds like you need some yellow paint. Yeah, to be honest.
A little bit of yellow paint. Be okay right now. I wouldn't mind a little bit of yellow paint.
Anyways. So Half-Life 3.
Good luck everybody. It's not going to be Half-Life 3. It's going to be Alex 2 or it's going to be like a remaster or something.
That doesn't make new Half-Life games. Web Dev says 70% of forum traffic is LLM training bots.
Would we have any way of like corroborating that?
Oh. Like what do you think?
LTT forum would almost certainly get crawled. Yeah.
Is it worth it? We can try. What?
We can look into it. No, I'm just... I wouldn't spend resources on it.
Exactly. I'm just idly curious. I just like...
I don't even know... It probably wouldn't be that hard.
But is it worth spending any amount of time?
Probably not. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean I think that...
I feel like that's one of the things that happens when you become like sort of a medium-sized,
larger company. Is you just like... People ask a question.
Stop doing so many things. You just like... Yeah, you just start just like asking questions and then like assigning resources to them because
you just like kind of have all these resources and then you end up just like not actually
doing anything because finding out if our forum is being crawled by training bots is
like what does that inform for our decision-making process?
What are we going to do about it? We're not going to do anything.
Yeah. Anyways, Diaspora developer Dennis Schubert was investigating...
Diaspora. Diaspora. That's fine.
It's not Diaspora? I don't think so. I've heard it.
Okay. Diaspora developer Dennis Schubert was investigating load spikes on a Diaspora project web infrastructure
and on investigation discovered a significant majority of the 11.3 million web requests
handled in a 60-day period. You're right.
It's Diaspora? Yeah. Nice.
All right. Good job. Got him.
The 11.3 million web requests handled in a 60-day period were from LLM training bots.
The bots crawl and re-crawl multiple times a day and aren't smart about what they crawl.
At one point, JetGBT and Amazon were crawling the entire edit history of Diaspora's wiki
every single diff, every single page, often more than 10 requests per second.
Wow. You compare responsible bots, like those for Google or Bing search, accounted for just
0.28% of Diaspora's web now and I think about every time I read the word.
Yeah. I'm sorry. I screwed it up for everyone.
I ruined it all. I ruined it all. Step down, Adam, because Linus ruins everything.
Is that a dated reference now?
I don't even know. The bots ignore robots.txt, which you can think of as the house rules for any web server,
that can ask web bots to honor, attempts to slow or stop, and they generally did in the
past, attempts to slow or stop the bots just result in them disguising their user agents
and taking other evasive actions. Diaspora is a decentralized social media platform that calls itself the online social world where
you are in control. I think our discussion question needs some help, but I mean, I think basically our discussion
question here is, what do we do?
Yeah, is Pandora's box just open at this point?
It surprises me a little bit that anyone is bothering to sign licensing deals with platforms
like Reddit. I think the only reason they're bothering is that Reddit has the financial resources
to potentially fight them in court for years and years and win some kind of settlement.
Which is exactly the reason why we were discussing, like, do we look into this?
No, because what are we going to do?
Nothing. And trying to stop them just has them disguise their user agents and take other evasive actions.
Realistically, they've gone up against more sophisticated administrators than us, no
offense, who have more time to fight this stuff.
When we look at the cost of running the forum, the second we start investigating this, we
have lost money. Dude, the forum is like, I'm not sure why we bother anymore at this point.
Most of them seem to hate me anyway, so it's just like, all right.
How does that feel? Paying for the hosting of a community that generally doesn't like you.
Moving on.
Yeah, at least Reddit's free. Yeah, right.
You don't have to pay to keep that going.
Oh, man. Amazing. That's great.
Are we still going to do more topics?
Just to be clear, I'm mostly being facetious. I do think that it is a small minority of active users that are drinking the Haterade.
And I also think that there is an influx of new users who are just looking to participate
anytime that there's something resembling a scandal, even if it's a complete nothing
burger. Yeah. And they tend to kind of show up at those times.
It's been really interesting watching how much noise there has been about the honey scandal.
And I'm going to use that in finger quotes because it had nothing to do with us.
Despite a lack of impact. Compared to the impact on sort of any other aspect of anything.
Because a lot of the time, if people are legitimately upset about something, like if we upload a video
to Floatplane that accidentally left the sponsor spots in, we might see a dip in Floatplane
subscribers. Or if we upload a sponsored video to the YouTube channel that people think is just too shilly
or something like that. Because we've done stuff like that in the past.
We're always trying to find the right balance, but we don't always nail it.
I've been upfront about that.
You might see a reduction in engagement over the next couple of days or weeks or months
or whatever. But this one, in spite of how broad and how loud and how angry people have been, it appears
to be two perfect circles.
The people who actually engage with us and care about LTT and Linus Media Group and all
of those various things. And the people who actually think that this is a scandal that reflects poorly on us in
any way. I think it's a lot of people that just go from thing to thing that they can yell about.
That's their entertainment when they get home. It seems like it.
It seems like it. And there have definitely been times when those circles have overlapped.
When there's actually been people who are angry about it who do engage with us.
That's probably when it's more real. Absolutely.
But this one seems like the most separated.
We've maybe got these lines kind of touch and there's dozens of people that are newly
hate us because of this. It just feels like everyone who was going to hate us hates us already at this point.
And it's actually liberating. I think I've talked about this before a little bit lately where it feels like we've survived
enough scandals that like we'd have to have an actual scandal, you know, like a real one
for it to kind of drum up like new hate.
It's just old hate that's being sort of refreshed now.
It's like, oh, he hates an ad block. It's like, I don't care about it.
I always told you guys, you don't use it.
You make your choice. It's on you.
Just make your own. Yeah. Build your own priorities, whatever.
CWP Linus is actually the mastermind behind Honey.
Oh, I wish I'd thought of it. I'd be a billionaire.
Yeah. Dude. Like honestly.
You'd be a big jerk. Oh man, dude. I had an idea and you know about this already.
I had an idea that literally would have made us a billion dollars.
I think you know the one I'm talking about.
The one I was talking to you and Taryn about.
Oh. Yeah. Thank you.
Finally. Jeez. We got there.
What is that? What is that? Don't worry about it.
Maybe we might not do charades that well.
Yeah, that's fine. We don't need to do that.
Anyway, anyway, the point is, you know, whether it's like, you
know, Linus coin. Oh, that's it. Oh, I forgot to tell you about this.
There is absolutely a platform that does that by the way. Oh really?
Yeah. Okay. 100%.
Okay. Good. Anyway, the point is, I wish them luck.
And they're killing it. So you're completely right.
So any who, like we've definitely had ideas before that I think are probably not as bad
as what Paypal Honey is doing here necessarily. How much money would we have if we actually did that VPN?
Yeah, I know. There's like, there's been plenty of opportunities, but I don't actually wish I'd thought of
it because like there's been times when we've thought of stuff that would have made us like
actually obscene amounts of money and we have made the active decision that, no, we actually
do make enough money and we need to not do that.
It's more important for the world that that is not done by us because someone will probably
do it at some point anyway. But you know, whether it's Hock to a girl with her rug pull recently or the thing you're
talking about. Linus coin's rug pull would have been cooler. I don't know why.
No, we wanted to call it, we wanted to call it drop coin because the value would drop.
We were going to be, I don't know, if you guys are new, you won't remember this obviously.
It was a pretty funny idea. You weren't there for it. But we talked about doing like an ICO and like being completely upfront, like calling
it rug coin or calling it drop coin or calling it something like that, where we're just like,
yeah, we're going to, we're going to spike the crap out of this thing.
We're going to do an ICO. If you guys are in at the absolute ground floor, you're going to make a killing.
You probably won't. If you sell fast enough. Because we're going to be the ones that are going to rug pull it faster than anyone else
could possibly know because we're going to keep 90% of it for ourselves, like every smart
initial coin offering scheme does.
And yeah, it's going to be a disaster for everyone who buys into it.
Let's go. And we would have made so much money. People would have totally done it anyway, because people would have just like bought
$5 worth of it. I'll be the one that that sells at the right time.
It'll be me. Mashi Sly Fox says it was and still is hilarious.
No bad things ever happen to me. LT to a coin, please.
No, no, no, we shouldn't do that.
It's a bad idea. It would be a heck of a way to retire though.
Retirement coin. Just draw. It's like, who's retirement?
Mine or yours? How much? Let's find out.
How much? How much? How much?
How much? Yeah, and there would be no tech offerings, which I think people have given up on that
at this point. Tech offerings? Yeah, like at the beginning of ICOs, it was all like, oh, this one's going to be good
because it'll have lower transaction fees because people are actually totally going
to use it. Wink, wink, wink. And now no one cares.
Right, right, right, right, right. It's all just theme it around something fun and then try to convince people to go to
the moon and sell before it does. You know what's crazy is my brother-in-law actually works for a company that actually
has a value to their coin. No, no, no, no.
How old is it? How old is it? How many years have they been around?
It's this thing. It's this drone mapping thing.
You fly your drone, which you want to do anyway, and you get their crypto coin or whatever.
For mapping stuff? Yeah. What can you, is it worth?
It actually seems to be doing pretty good because they have actual clients that pay
actual money for the maps. You know, I hate this because this is actually probably pretty cool.
It's really cool. And there are legitimate uses for this type of stuff. They have significantly downplayed the crypto-ness.
That's probably a good idea. The blockchain-ness of the product.
But it is using blockchain technology and it is achieving something actually valuable,
which is extremely high-resolution imagery. They've got a really good, where is it?
It was actually a different news article. It wasn't on their site where they show a side-by-side of satellite imagery versus their
imagery. And it's obviously way better because it's from individual drone operators flying their
drones around. And so it's a win-win because it's something these guys want to do anyway.
People love an excuse to fly their drones around.
These guys are getting this highly detailed mapping data.
And then companies and cities, any organization that's willing to pay for this high-resolution
map imagery is winning as well.
I won't talk about much of it because I have no idea what of what he's told me is
in confidence or whatever else, but that's the high level of what these guys are doing.
It's kind of frustrating because blockchain tech is really cool.
But it's hard to be excited about because there are so many scams.
Yeah, it's like not every blockchain project is a scam, but every scammer is in on blockchain.
Which is rough because then when people do actually do cool things with it, which I mean,
that seems cool. I don't know. It's not an endorsement.
I've never seen it before.
There's so much negativity around it because they get associated with the incredible amount
of the huge ocean full of scammers.
I do hope one day we can get past that, but honestly, I don't know that we can.
I think there will always be scammers in blockchain. This is pretty cool. Too many of them.
Property assessment, situational awareness for fire and police, disaster response.
Yeah, assessing infrastructure. Yeah, it's super cool.
Disaster response especially. Trying to figure out what something was supposed to look like before it got swept away in a
flood or something. 100%. Yeah.
I'm super, super, super happy for him.
I'm super, super proud of him. He's worked super hard to get this to where it is.
It's a long story. That's his story to tell, but yeah, no, definitely super cool.
It's surely time. It's early time asks, okay, but is blockchain necessary for this to exist?
No, but what it is is really elegant.
Blockchain is super cool. It's like super, super cool.
That's just that there's a lot of grifters in this space who saw an easy way to make
a buck. That's all. Yeah.
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in the video description. All right. Kind of sick.
Kind of cool. So diamond shopping. Yeah.
And London. Why?
Because Yvonne and I were having a conversation.
She told me about this like jewelry slash like diamond brand that was a big deal called
Harry Winston. Like they're like the best or something and they're the trendiest.
And I was like, are they like better than like Tiffany? Because that's the only sort of like upscale, you know, brand that I know and Yvonne's like
Oh, I mean, yeah, yeah, they're they're they're like, you know, their brand perception is
like higher. They're like more premium.
And anyway, I was like, I was like, really? Because I thought like, I thought like Tiffany's like, you know, kind of like a huge deal.
It's certainly very overpriced.
Go ahead. These look stupid. I went to the website and immediately was like, what?
Okay. Sorry. So anyway, to tease her, because that's my actual favorite thing to do in the entire
world. Sure. I was like, well, well, darling, would you like me to get you a Harry Winston then?
And she's like, what? No, I'm just I was just saying like, like that's the one that kind of gets.
Like, you know, they provide the diamonds for the, you know, the royal family and you
know, whatever else. And I'm like, OK, so so you're saying now that we're here in London, you'd like to
go get to Harry Winston then? Sorry, Dan, by the way, I'm butchering your native tongue.
And and anyway, so so basically I we were just walking around in the city and I was
like, OK, I'm going to I'm going to find the nearest Harry Winston.
And she's like, no, I don't I don't know. I don't want to I don't want to go there.
And I'm like, no, no, no, OK. Then in that case, we're not going there. We're wandering aimlessly.
And I like so basically I so so I we arrived there.
And I was like, oh, look at that. There happens to be a Tiffany nearby.
Why don't we go ahead and go in that one as well?
I don't think.
That I have ever felt more unwelcome somewhere.
Oh, then I was in Tiffany.
Were you were like wearing this basically? Pretty much. Yeah.
I had I had a pair of Vessys on with like paint.
Like like spattered paint spatters on them.
I was dressed in our like LTT cargo pants.
No, I know I had jeans on. And then I was wearing actually, you know what?
No, my I think my top layer was somewhat respectable.
You know that that white and black shell that we have?
Yes, I was dressed in that. So I think that's like, but it's not it's not Tiffany.
Harry Winston walks into Tiffany with paint covered shoes and clothes he made himself pretty much.
So we so because I because basically we were trying to like
we were trying to sort of see like, you know, who's more who's more upscale.
You know that game that I've told you that I like to play at the airport, right? Yes. Or I so I like to go into a store
that has a brand I've never heard of before, preferably a person's first and last name, yes, and then find an item and then take like bets
with whoever my travel companion is for what the price is.
And then you play prices right rules for, you know, how much it how much it is.
So you ask a salesperson how much it is because they almost never have price takes on them.
Anyway, the point is I was doing kind of like a like a variation of that game
called Who Will Make Me Feel the Most Unwelcome?
So so we walk into it. So we walk into Tiffany, you can't just walk in.
First of all, you have to like knock on the door.
This is their London store. OK, it's London. All right. It's London.
So so you knock on the door and they like they like open it
because I think there's actual discrimination laws. Like they can't not let you in unless there's an actual security concern.
So I go in and she's like, oh, welcome to Tiffany. You know, what can I what can I help you with today?
And I'm like, oh, I'm just browsing and she goes, what do you mean?
Like, is there a particular collection you'd like to look at?
Do you know which floor you need to go to? I'm like, no, I'm just looking around.
And she's just like, cannot fucking believe her ears.
Like has has never heard the word browsing. You mean you don't you mean you don't know exactly which of our fabulous
creations you wish to go home with today?
Like you've never do you even know who I am?
I am the salesperson at Tiffany London.
How dare you? You waste my time. Like, dude, I could not believe it.
So anyway, we go in and I'm pretty sure they had someone tailing us the whole time.
I mean, I would. I probably would. But, dude, this store was so far up its own rectum.
Like I couldn't even believe it. It was beautiful, obviously, I'm sure they have this entire
like sitting room where I guess you could, I don't know,
have a tea party or something like it. Oh, oh, I think I have a selfie.
I can send it to Dan. We took a selfie in the Tiffany store. While you do that, that's the only thing
Yvonne's getting from the Tiffany store. You mentioned how you guessed the price because and you have to ask someone
because there's no prices listed. I found another watch that I laughed at internally
and I decided to see how much it would cost. So I clicked on it on their website and their options were normally like,
you know, that would be our schedule and appointment, request assistance or learn more about pricing.
No two diamonds. Harry Winston once said, no two diamonds are like
as each is a fine jewel from the house of Harry Winston.
Yeah. No. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead. So here's what Yvonne got from the Tiffany store.
So this is just there's a bunch of like little chairs and couches like that.
So she's got a jean jacket on under her like a Ritzia like like winter coat.
And yeah, we're both like not particularly put together
because we basically haven't slept in days. Anyway, and I'll I have a backpack on.
If there's anything that's going to sketch out a fine jewelry store,
it's walking in with a backpack.
Anyway, we we looked at a couple things. We found a we found a like a like a choker that was like
one hundred and forty eight thousand pounds or something. I asked Yvonne to guess the price.
She said she thought it would be seventy or eighty thousand. I was like, oh, yeah, try almost doubling it
because that's the thing like this like brand name jewelry is not just
like overpriced like like diamond cartel overpriced.
It's like diamond cartel overpriced. And also they need to have their ludicrous markup on top of it.
So you pay just an obscene amount. Anyway, after we walked out of Tiffany, Yvonne admitted that
it was her perception of it as being like not actually.
She thought it was like fashion jewelry, basically, but like premium fashion jewelry.
She was like, OK, no, I'm pretty sure these guys are there. But I'm pretty sure Harry Winston is still like a level above.
And what I will say is that while I didn't feel quite as unwelcome at Harry Winston.
I think that's only because they didn't really let us see anything or go anywhere.
Oh, we were very welcome to stay in the foyer.
So they had like an electronic lock like you.
I had to like I did like get the guy's attention. I didn't help that Yvonne was trying to walk past the store
because she was absolutely mortified after having gone into Tiffany
and feeling so unwelcome there. No surprise. So she tried to get past it.
So I was like dragging her back toward the doorway and I was like,
let us in. And so the guy that doesn't he's like, what can I help you with? See, I'm like, oh, I just want to look around. He's like, OK.
So we have like an electronic lock. It goes like it like opens up.
He opens up the door. It's like this heavy door. So you go inside and they're like, oh, what can I help you with?
See, I'm like, oh, just looking around. And unlike Tiffany, where you can walk all the different floors
and like look around at all the different, you know, showcases and stuff. In this one, you go in and there's like a handful of things on display.
And there was another client there that was evidently playing some kind of event.
Dude, her husband or husband to be was the most bored ass looking dude
that I've ever seen in my life. Well, she's discussing whether her hair will be up or her hair will be down.
Harry Winston, Diamond, whatever.
Anywho, we were able to look at like a couple of little things.
There was a watch with no price tag on it, as you can probably imagine.
And they were so talking to that that lady that was in there
working with them on something, they talked about going upstairs and seeing something. Well, no one invited us upstairs.
And in fact, there was like three people between us and any further access to the place.
So we just kind of did a loop in the little like lobby area. And then and then we left as far as I can tell from their websites.
Find a salon. They call them salons.
As far as I can tell from their websites, you have to book appointments.
Oh, really? That's probably why they were like, what the heck? Also, they have a point this out.
They have a ring the bell icon for assistance, which is just.
That's just amazing. I don't know why I like that so much.
OK, so is it this one? Yeah, so let's just pick this random one.
Yeah, schedule an appointment or request assistance. They want the same thing.
They know that, right? Yeah. OK, cool. But, uh, yeah, I think I think the reason why they're asking you like,
hello, is because they're expecting people to show up with appointments.
Well, I guess like their personal assistance would make an appointment for them.
Right? Yes. Well, mine must have forgotten to call. Sorry. It's a way to go.
He's not my personal assistant. I don't have a personal assistant. Right. He's an executive assistant.
He like works for the company. Right. Anyway, I don't know. I don't know. Sure.
What happens? Don't hit the bell. I hit the bell.
It's just a link. There's a Rolls Royce outside.
OK, so what's the difference? What's happening? Increase.
Yeah, rich people don't have time to fill out this form. Schedule an appointment. Do their work for them.
What do you think you're doing here? This is a advanced form. Wait, is it not the same?
Is it the exact same thing, whether you want to schedule an appointment or request assistance?
But like salon details, date, your information, your preferences,
request assistance.
OK, so request assistance is an online request thing.
So you can get information online and schedule an appointment is scheduling appointment to go in person.
Dan's Galaxy says, see, this is in full plane chat says, see, this is what I would do if I were Linus rich, have something
which very clearly indicates my wealth, but hide it, go into places like this,
wait for them to treat you like crap, go, OK, well, I will take my,
you know, I'll take my money to your competitor, flash the wealth and walk out.
I'd get such a kick out of them, realizing they lost a sale because of being snooty.
I was telling you two videos from 2009.
Yvonne was telling you about this lady that that got like basically
like treated rudely somewhere who walked in with cash, counted it.
In front of the staff and then was like, actually, I changed my mind.
And then left. I was like, damn. Yeah.
I don't know, man, for me. Oh, I just don't value what they're selling.
Yeah, like at all. The thing you do, I think is fine.
I think the the like counting the cash out and then leaving.
I feel like the person who counted the cash out. Oh, they're they're they're as far up their own ass as the.
Oh, yeah. And they're very ego hurt. A hundred percent.
Like you just like kind of going in and be like, wow, LOL and then leaving is is fine in my opinion.
Look, I wouldn't do it, but I think it's funny. Sure. That's all I'll say. Yeah, that's all I'll say.
I mean, this entire interaction, this entire world is funny.
Oh, yeah. Can we agree on that, at least? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't know. For me, I just I don't.
Yeah, I don't I don't value what they I don't value what they're selling at all.
And for me, I don't I don't need it. I don't need any of it.
Like I just I look at it and I'm just like, yeah, in some cases, right?
Like it's stuff that I if I wanted to, like it's not a secret what car I drive.
Yeah, you could. It's actually better for me to just be able to to really
honestly, sincerely say I could, but I actually wouldn't.
Because it's ridiculous. Dude, diamonds have come down so much.
Like compared to when I bought Yvonne, her engagement ring, which was,
you know, 14 years ago or whenever it was, I should know that.
Yeah, no, I'm right, though. So I got it. So we're good.
So compared to when I when I bought Yvonne, her engagement ring, 14 years ago.
Dude, we were just like at like a more like regular jewelry store, because I was like, OK,
have I just completely lost touch with the market, right? Because we were looking at some of the stuff at like Tiffany and Harry Winston.
So we were we were just like looking at some stuff. They've got like these huge lab grown diamonds that are like, you know, five grand
that would have been twenty five thirty thousand dollars like even ten years ago.
It's crazy. I mean, it's a good thing because they were ridiculously overpriced.
They're still ridiculously overpriced, but it seems like,
you know, if you if you just want like a gemological, you know, symbol of whatever,
it seems like they're a lot more gemological.
Yeah, no, I'm just is that a thing? Yeah, gemological is a word, but I didn't use it correctly.
If you just want like if you just want like a like a gem like symbol of something,
boy, are they ever more affordable? So that's that's one thing that isn't affected by inflation so much.
Dude, lab grown diamonds. Apparently you can buy Yvonne found a lab grown diamond machine on like Ali Express
or Alibaba or something. You just make your own. You have to I mean, you need like access to like like seed,
seed diamonds and, you know, you need like super high power
because you need like a tough frickin ton of power. So that's the thing. Lab grown diamonds are like not eco friendly in case you were wondering.
Oh, like, yeah. Like, you know, mining the earth or whatever is like not eco friendly or whatever.
But lab grown diamonds also not eco friendly.
You have a lot of power at the lab. The lab building has tons of power.
Yeah, maybe a steel plant. Maybe no, it was sheet metal fabrication.
So they didn't like make steel. They just yeah, they just like bent it.
Still a lot of power needed for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of power at the lab.
LTT lab grown diamonds. Let's go. I'm going to see if I can find it.
LTT lab lab.
I'm going to see if I can find this. You can do it. Oh, here's a tester. Yeah, not the same.
Yeah, but it still requires a ton of power. There's a huge amount of power at the lab.
Get all right. Lab grown diamond tester. Oh, here it was made.
Oh, maybe I'm the one who sent this to her. Yeah, our Ars Technica article.
It's 200 grand. There's something on Alibaba that's 200 grand.
Why not? Dude, there's everything on Alibaba. Fair enough.
Here it is. Wow. Synthetic diamond making machine.
Whoa, it's big. Oh, dude. Yeah, no, it's like a whole thing.
Wow. Like actually for real, I don't know if we could power this thing there.
Um, ultra high pressure, press machine, whatever, because you need a ton of heat.
You need a ton of pressure. And even then, it's not, it's not instantaneous.
Cool, huh? Should we do a review? Yeah.
Widely used, domestic, super hard material industry, whatever, whatever, whatever.
I wonder how long it would take to get an ROI or something like that.
I don't know. I mean, at the rate that diamond values are plummeting, probably a while.
This is probably why. Langley man says, LTT diamond-incrusted gold Xbox controller.
Let's go. Let's go.
You like one in every 10, one in every, I don't know, 50,000 orders on
LTT stores, diamond-incrusted. Jerry Rigg, everything apparently did a video recently on the process of
of man-made diamonds. Wow. Wild dude who's leaving reviews of this machine.
Apparently there's a review of it. Hold on. I miss this.
Uh, I don't, I don't see it.
You guys, that's okay. I think we've probably exhausted the, the interestingness of this topic at this point.
Yeah. But yes, diamond shopping at Harry Winston.
Amazing. Yep. I, it's, it's wild to me.
Like how much inventory there is in this stuff.
Like not even cause I can understand having a bunch of inventory at your London
like flagship store or whatever. Sure. Yeah, fine. But I was at the airport and there was like a, I think citizen, I don't know, some,
some watch brand and just like they're in the store and the $40,000 watch.
And sure, a lot of that is just markup. Like it's not, it's not real.
It's not real value. It's what hopefully someone will pay for it, but it's not actual, you know, they
didn't pay that much for it. But in, in cases like that, that's probably a gold watch.
Like it actually does have like actual cost of materials in it.
But, and so that's just one location in one airport, you know, like the amount
of inventory these companies have to, have to carry. It's, it's, it's flipping wild to me.
Are that many people buying these things? Do you think they sell for cycle?
Cause you could, you could pluck the gems, melt the gold and probably reuse the,
the timepiece itself. I doubt it. Because I think if they did that, someone would leak it and it would come out that
they like were melting them down and they couldn't sell them and it would like
reflect badly on the brand. I, I totally don't think so.
Someone says, make as advised. I buy them second hand as my full time job.
I could even understand that though. Like I could almost, okay.
Like almost even a, like the worst depreciating asset, you know, the worst
money burning purchases, like, you know, cars and jewelry or whatever else, they
can be appreciating assets if you're an extremely savvy buyer for sure.
And like I, I would have no problem.
I wouldn't want to spend money on a watch, but I'd have no problem tying up
some cash in a watch that would hold its value or whatever else.
Um, again, it's, it's not a thing that has a ton of value to me.
Like I just need to, I've got a unicorn on my watch, you know, like I just need
to tell the time and also I have a unicorn on my watch and it moves.
Yeah. Like, yeah, it like grins at me when I want to tell the time, right?
Like it's, I don't know, man. Like I just don't, I just don't really care.
Um, but if, if you're the kind of person that, um, cares about that, then apparently
Patek Philippe watches have unicorns on them, says ether dark.
Is that right? I was going to say that sounds like a patek Philippe, uh, complication.
Really? Those guys are crazy. I don't know. Maybe I'd be into that.
No, it'd be analog. Entropy says buy pinball machines.
Those feel like they've kind of peaked. I don't, I don't know, man.
I feel like the nostalgia for pinball machines is only going to the generation
from here to them. Yeah. I think hit their peak purchasing pinball.
Yeah. Is that a computer? Is that come on Windows XP?
Um, I don't know what Windows XP is anymore. Yeah. I really don't know about that, guys.
Okay. What else we got? I do want to, but I do, I do want a pinball machine, but I want to play it.
I don't want it to like have it appreciate one last thing. This is the most prestigious point of a page pretentious.
Sorry, not prestigious, most pretentious point of a page. I think I've ever scrolled to in my life.
Oh, yes. I'm just lounging back in my chair, evaluating my box of enormous gems and
also a tiara next to that is something that proclaims that I am the king of
a vivid of an expensive thing. Yes.
Very good. Wow. I'm a man of many brilliant facets, much like the rare jewels that I built my
life around. Yes. In fairness to him, he didn't write that.
Yeah, he probably thought it.
I'm leaving now. This website just makes me mad.
I don't know. I don't know. Federal Judge approves California's ban on addictive feeds for miners and
notification restrictions. A federal judge has upheld a law signed by California's governor that restricts
serving addictive feeds to minors unless the platform obtains verifiable parental
consent. The new law makes it unlawful for the operator of an addictive internet based
service to provide an addictive feed to a user unless the operator does not have
actual knowledge that the user is a minor. It also restricts sending notifications to minors between 12 and 6 a.m.
in between 8 a.m. and 3 p.m. Monday through Friday, August through May.
Nice. The judge granted a preliminary injunction against the notification provisions
stating that net choice is likely to succeed on its First Amendment claim.
However, he denied injunctions against all other provisions of the law.
Tech Lobby net choice, which represents Google Meta and Snap, challenged the law
on the basis that it violates the First Amendment. Opponents claim it could restrict nonminors access to feeds.
OK, who cares? And means that platforms would need to gather more private information on their
users as if most social media doesn't already know our age.
This was meant to be just kind of like a quick update. But yeah, they're finally regulating addictive social media for kids.
Sort of. Look at that.
Because everybody's just going to say they're not a kid.
I think the only way this is actually going to be.
Maybe helpful is if your parent already makes it so that like your device is
locked down or whatever. Right. But I mean, that's not the state's job to make sure that parents parent.
Yeah. But at least this is providing tools for parents to actually restrict access to this stuff.
I don't know. I'm I'm. Would you prefer as a parent, would you prefer that the options were available
or that it's enforced by the law? Um, because like I prefer to have the tools, grand, nice, good, granular tools, easy
to use tools. I would love to see state money go into educating parents and making
information about these tools available to me. Like if Metta was forced, a lot of parents, I have no idea.
This is if Metta was forced to advertise these tools to people who are likely parents.
I'd be down for that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's it's kind of like we've had media laws for a long time.
There's like in Canada, for instance, there's you've been required to have a certain
amount of Canadian content if you broadcast in Canada. Like I could see social media platforms that have addictive features, you know, much
like you forced the cigarette companies to have warnings on their packages.
You basically say, okay, look, 10% of your ad impressions are going to have to be,
you know, warning parents about or like, you know, warning people about or providing
them with access to tools like gambling too. Like they have to spend a certain amount of their proceeds on or not a certain
amount of their proceeds rather on their advertisements. They have to have like the help line and stuff like that.
Yeah. So I would, I basically, I'd like to see a similar approach where you are sort
of forced to build awareness for the tools to manage this addiction.
Yeah. It's not perfect. Because like you said, it's not the state's job to parent is like making this a like,
you know, making it a law that notifications can't come through between a certain time.
It's like, okay, that seems cool, but I don't also necessarily want the government
making that a law. I think making it a law that, that has to be an option for the parent to select.
I think that's like, okay, cool. Nice.
I don't know either way. Details have emerged about two sovereign Russian game systems.
Russian president Vladimir Putin called for Russia to look at producing stationary and
portable game consoles along with an operating system and a cloud based distribution system
back in March of 2024 after major game makers halted official sales to Russia.
The first console is based on the homegrown dual core Elbrus processor, which uses a very
long instruction word architecture. The Elbrus processor has previously been described as completely unacceptable for most
tasks. Nice. Hold on. Where's our, where's our first system here?
Hold on.
No pictures. Do we have, are there any, are there any pictures of these?
Luke, do you want to check the sources while I keep doing the thing? Sure. The second system is a cheap gaming stick being developed by prominent Russian telecoms
company MTS. It includes an Xbox style controller and is based on low end hardware with just enough
power to connect to a cloud based gaming service called MTS fog play.
One sec. Sorry. Are you looking for the Elbrus processor or the consoles?
Consoles. Fog play. I love that fog. It's not the cloud.
It's the fog. All the heavy lifting is done in a data center.
Neither of these is expected to have the power to compete head on with industry leaders.
So Russian politicians are asking developers to create unconventional games.
A third portable system is reportedly being developed by Rosa IT Research and Development
Center, though details are sketchy at best.
Not really getting pictures. Bummer.
Um, what am I looking at here, Jordan? His discussion question is, did you see that Tetris Minesweeper hybrid?
Yeah. What is this to do with this topic? Tetris is from Russia.
Okay. And it's a video game. Okay.
What am I looking at here? So you have to Tetris, but then you also have to play Minesweeper at the bottom.
I don't understand. The only thing I don't get is what is the, how does the game work?
Like, how does the Minesweeper, I understand you're playing Minesweeper.
Good Lord. But why does it matter?
Um, okay. Well, you, maybe it's a score molded player.
I mean, oh my God, but like coming soon. Okay. Wow.
What happens? My brain. Okay.
Score two point something times. Okay. My brain would hurt.
So my brain hurts just watching that. Oh, I would love that. That would work great for me.
No, I think these are the only official photos.
This. Okay. Cause it, this looks like it says fog play.
Yeah. So I think this is the stick. Yeah. And this thing probably interacts with the stick.
That's a cheap and great streaming box remote. Yeah. The other console said that it had an Xbox light controller.
So I think this is the only thing we get to see is that controller. So I think this is it.
Well, good luck everybody. Yeah. Here's a fun one.
Um, sorry. Someone in someone in float playing chat said fog play
question mark kinky. You need to get offline a little bit more often on January 1st at
eight 40 a.m. A bomb was set off at Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas.
The suspected bomber used a cyber truck to deliver the payload.
Fortunately, uh, most of the explosion apparently like went
upward and even the Windows of the hotel were not broken.
And I think there was only a couple of minor injuries. So that's, uh, could have been, could have been a lot worse.
Um, obviously never good. Could have been worse though.
Later that day, the Las Vegas police expressed their gratitude to
Elon Musk. Quote, he gave us quite a bit of additional information in regards
to how the vehicle was locked after it exploded due to the nature of
the force from the explosion, as well as being able to capture all
of the video from Tesla charger stations across the country.
He sent that directly to us. So I appreciate his help on that.
Yeah. Uh, this obviously raised exit questions about Tesla's control over
their vehicles. It's no secret that the network Tesla built superchargers, the
phone app, the remote access, et cetera, is a huge selling feature for
the car, but people are bringing the concerns up about camera access.
Uh, which is a recurring topic on the WAN Show actually.
Um, this is a, this is similar to an incident that happened roughly
in 2019 to 2022 where a group chat was being used to send invasive
videos and images recorded by customers cars, which we also reported on.
Cool. Discussion question. Features like built-in dash cams are becoming more popular in vehicles.
Should companies immediately have access to this footage? Or is this something that customers should opt into?
Uh, my car gets so much cooler like every day.
I'm so, so okay with having the car that I still have.
It's so great. Every time I get into it, I just feel a wave of appreciation for the fact
that it just turns on and works and gets me where I need to go and there's
really nothing else going on and it's great. So all the Elon stands that like crap on me every time I'm like, Hey, the
guy stands for nothing and has no principles whatsoever.
Like obviously, um, are you guys done with that now?
No. Like, like is this, is this no, no warrant, no nothing.
Is this not like the least American thing ever?
It feels like it to me. Can y'all, can y'all stop?
I don't, um, I don't think this is just Tesla.
I would say. Oh, no. No, it's no, no, no, make that point for sure.
It's, it's just the way that the way the defenders try to twist the
these actions is very, um, is very difficult for me to stomach.
When the red flags are not just red flags, they're like on fire, you
know, they're burning, they're burning flags.
Yeah.
Wow. Cool.
Yeah, this is great. Oni Hikage says, uh, I have a 23 year old car and I want to convert
the drive train to electric and keep it for another 23 years.
Sick.
Yeah. Next topic.
Yeah. Meta kills AI generated profiles after uproar.
Meta has removed 28 AI generated Instagram profiles that they first
launched in 2023. This was, uh, today I learned they have their own profiles had no idea.
Yeah. My discussion question for this was, aren't these platforms supposed
to be actively working against AI profiles?
When do they have their own? Anyway, carry on. So, I was so, it's weird to read this.
Uh, the profiles were removed following widespread social media
outrage and concerns about.
Blackface as a service. So here's some context for that.
What? This is, uh, this is not real.
Her kids are not real. Okay. Um, is that relevant?
Yes. Uh, hold on. Let me see if I can find the, find her profile because basically
there's a lot of, um, what?
It's bad. Okay. Just, just trust me. All right. I'll, I'll, I'll find it for you, but it's really, really bad.
Just keep going. Um, yeah, you can carry on, uh, but meta says that it will continue
to push AI generated content in all of its platforms.
Okay. Uh, meta plans to use the AI generated characters to drive
engagement on its platforms and expect AI to coexist with human
accounts on its platforms over time.
The internet is fake. Um, the accounts were apparently not actively posting anymore,
but we'll, we'd still respond to interaction. So they were still like running, I guess, cause they're bots.
Uh, 404 media's Jason Kobler stated that the currently viral meta AI
profiler profiles are old and already inactive because they were
such a colossal failure and were indistinguishable from AI spam.
This inevitable future, uh, Zuckerberg is trying to shove down
our throats is being completely rejected and went on to give a
rundown of some of the generated profiles. Okay. So here's, here's one of the profiles for you.
Okay. Oh, no.
Got it. So you see what I mean now? Yeah. Yeah.
Wow. Can you imagine being in the board room where that seemed like a
good idea? Wow.
That's kind of epic. That's cool. Yeah.
Wow. That's cool.
So, so, so wait, hold on.
So our generated AI profiles have like very notable identities.
Interesting. And our, by assuming those identities, you know, um, that are,
that seem to be very, um, racially and culturally derived.
Yeah. Are achieving something.
What exactly? Oh my God.
Um, so cool.
Okay. That's weird. Well, I'm happy those already lost.
Um, yeah. I mean, I've lost the battle.
So isn't that representation of visibility though? But it's representation of an AI bot.
It's not, it's not a person. So it being like, I don't even want to get into it, but it's
yeah, it's probably not a safe space for you. Yeah.
Yeah. It's not the same as like, you know, the cis white male patrol here.
Yeah. I think that we have one beard, white male guy, one non beard,
white male guy, where we have two beard, white male guy.
One of our white guys is even blonde.
What, what are you? Are you not blonde?
Brownish. You're a little bit of blonde. There's a little bit of blonde in there. Geez, that's gray.
Uh, alright. The point is just that like, um, this ain't our place to, to get
super deep into. No. Other than that, this is clearly ridiculous and should be, should
be laughed at slash yelled at for the same for, for, okay.
I guess for me, what I would say is if there was a white bearded
dude that was an AI profile and it was like, I'm straight.
I'm a proud straight white guy. I'd be like, yeah, that's weird.
Yeah. I don't want that. You're an AI thing. Just be that.
I mean, that's just probably not an AI thing. That's probably a real profile.
Unfortunately, I'm sure it exists somewhere, but just like, just
don't have any of that. Yeah.
I don't know. None of it just to have none of that. Just be a, just be a little robot thing.
It's fine. My goodness.
Uh, any who, um, the FCC has been blocked from reinstating net
neutrality rules. Just a reminder that voting matters.
Um, a US appeals court has blocked the FCC from reinstating
net neutrality rules, which require internet service providers to
treat internet data and users equally, forbidding fast and slow lanes.
For those of you who aren't up to speed on this net neutrality is a really, really, really, really, really good thing.
Such rules were initially implemented in 2015 by the FCC
under the Obama administration, but were then repealed in 2017
under Trump. Biden's FCC voted to reinstate the rules in April of 2024,
but they have not yet gone into effect. The sixth circuit judges set a key factor in their decision was
the Supreme Court's June 2024 ruling over turning the Chevron
doctrine, which gave deference to government agencies on regulations, allowing the FCC, FCC and others to establish
federally binding rules without going through the standard legislative process.
So basically the FCC and FCC have been defanged at this point.
Judge Richard Allen Griffin wrote that broadband internet is not a telecommunication service, but an information service,
which must be regulated differently under the communications act of 1934.
Um, okay. So cool. Uh, good job.
Is that good? No. Oh, okay. Yeah.
I was like, did I read that wrong? Anyway, the switch to motherboard has been leaked.
Apparently, maybe we're not sure. Leaked photos. Do you want to pull them up purporting to be shots of the
yet to be announced. Nintendo switch to appear to show a relatively large Samsung
manufactured SOC leading some to worry that the switch to could
be based on eight nanometer technology from all the way back
in 2018 rather than the four nanometer process that many
Nintendo watchers were hoping for using such an old process
would mean that if a switch to where to launch in 2025, it would be running seven year old technology just like the switch
one was. Yeah, that's actually it wasn't the switch one was running
three year old tech at launch. Others from this almost 4000 page long thread on fama boards
dot com think that it could be anything down to five nanometer
depending which wild speculation you prefer.
Realistically, we're just going to have to wait for an official announcement to learn anything concrete, but from
the number of leaks that have been going on lately, it's
coming. It's clearly coming very soon up very soon.
All right. Is that it? I think that's it for the topics. Why don't we why don't we do some?
Did we do everything in order today? Like is this a proper WAN Show? Did we did we do things properly?
I think so cool. Let's do after dark. Cool.
I think it's that button.
Nice. I always got to make sure that I don't push the wrong one.
And you guys want. Yeah. Talk about that.
This was handed to me right before WAN showed. I'm very excited about this here and showed it to me.
Was it already? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think it was already. For sure. I only had eyes for these.
I'm like. Dada.
Okay. Already give us the shirts and did everything else. This is my first look at a sample.
Oh, and you're all like hip and young because they're tall.
So what's funny is I never.
Dude, the number of like quote unquote Gen Z things that like
they're killing that millennials did that I'm like like blah,
blah, blah Gen Z is like killing drinking alcohol and Gen Z is
killing ankle socks and Gen Z is killing this and Gen Z is killing that. I'm like, dude, it goes to show all you got to do is just stay
right in the same place and everyone's going to come right back around to you.
Yeah. No, crew socks are great because you get a little bit of that.
I don't like the compression effect. I don't like that. That's blood pooling.
I find I'm less likely to get shin splints with them. I don't get shin splints. Maybe that's why I don't care.
Yeah, that's why. Okay. So one of the things that I'm trying to check is if it weave
is dense enough. He's probably kidding.
This is the first time you've seen this pair. I think so right?
First time. Are you trying to see if you can see the light through them or something?
Yeah. That's why he's holding up to the light. There's a light right here.
Yeah. Right off camera. Density could be a little bit better, but the cushion is
really nice on the toe and the heel. Whoa.
And the last sample that I have from the supplier, while the
density of the weave is not quite on par with the Dine Tufts.
What I have noticed is that the shedding is much less, which
is a solid indicator for long-term quality.
Interesting. They've gone with a really thick, they've gone with a really
thick pad at the back of the ankle where that's your Achilles,
I guess, right? Interesting.
Okay. Well, I will be trialing these.
I am very excited because not because they actually seem
initially better than the Dine Tufts, but because the last sample we got from these guys, which these do seem improved
over, the last sample we got from these guys once I started
actually wear testing them, really impressed me.
They are a Merino, by the way.
People are asking if they're wool.
The drying, outstanding comfort, outstanding shedding, outstanding
and padding was quite good. So we've improved them a little bit and we will see how they go.
Boosted asks, why not collaborate with Dine Tufts? We would be open to something like that.
Top Gear asks, lifetime replacement, unlikely.
I don't think, based on how quickly I've chewed through all my
Dine Tufts socks, and to be clear, they've lasted longer than any others I've had, but a lifetime warranty for socks is
basically just telling people two for one.
And so I don't know that we would necessarily do that, but I
don't know where our pricing is going to end up, right? We're going to have to figure out what our overall value
proposition is. I mean, I hope you would get at least two.
At least a bulk. Dang it.
Dang it. Dang yourself.
All right. I'm so sorry. That was a little rough.
All right. What are we supposed to be doing? You want some merch message?
Oh, sure. Yeah. Hey, you went out to the LL.
I recently received a promotion in my ID job with an obvious
track for promotion. I'm feeling like I'm where I want to be in life.
When did you feel that way and what markers were there?
It's cool that you recognize that.
I feel like a lot of people don't until it's past.
The whole good old days thing.
I've caught myself there before and I've recognized when I was
in that time before both have been true.
I don't know though. My big I made it moment was on camera.
I finally made it house theater room build.
It was sick. It was like, yep, I'm done.
This was this was such a huge. This was such a huge goal for me.
It was so cool turning that thing on.
In terms of like financially, I would say that
it was actually a lot more recent than that because we've,
Yvonne and I have gone. Chips in many, many times on the company.
And we did it for what I think was probably
the last time on the lab.
I'm like the lab building kind of like laying the foundation to
build that out. And we are.
We are not in sort of an amount of debt that I find
overwhelming anymore. And we have no intention of doing of going heavy into debt
again. I would say is, is, is what gives and,
and you know what the amount of debt that we were in at all
those different stages wouldn't have stressed me out as much as
it did. If it wasn't for the industry that we were in,
like if I was working a nine to five in a, in a position where
I, if something went wrong, I could like get a position at
another company or whatever. Like if I knew that my income was sustainable,
I don't think it would have been a huge problem. But when you like, you know, let's go way back, right?
To when we bought this office, when you buy an office building
for a million dollars, which was an astronomical amount of
money for the company at the time. And then you spend hundreds of thousands more building it out.
And you're just like, Oh my gosh, we're like, will our channel
be deleted tomorrow? Cause I don't have the income to like pay my home mortgage and
this, if everything goes completely wrong, you know, so
there's this like, there's this period of, of instability,
you know, every, every time, because you don't feel like it's,
it's forever. And I think I've kind of, you know,
like it's like that, that constant, I mean, you remember the
constant fear of like this could disappear tomorrow.
Right. Like I don't, I don't think that.
Okay. Well, I don't think it's as much.
That's, you have to consider that like this thing literally
didn't exist in 2006.
Oh yeah. No, I mean, I always joke about how my, my career counselor
in high school had no shot. Literally impossible.
YouTube wasn't a thing. Yeah. Yeah.
So like, oh man. And then like, honestly, to make an assumption that an internet
company would even last this long back then.
Yeah. Making an assumption that a web media company would last this
long today. Yeah. Exactly.
Is crazy. Like is YouTube. Are you trying to give me anxiety?
Is YouTube. He works better when he's under pressure.
Is YouTube still going to exist in 10 years?
I think so. I think so. I think so.
YouTube has figured out the key. The key is to realize that, you know,
you're not going to be able to do that. You're not going to be able to do that.
You're not going to be able to do that. The key is to reinvest in your creators.
That's what all the platforms that have come and gone never
figured out. 100%. YouTube invests heavily.
Are they going to be here in 20 years? Back in their creators.
Well, someone else could figure that out.
It hasn't happened yet. I don't know why.
Other than just greed. Is web video even still going to be how people consume content
in 20 years? I don't know. AI is going to change more than we think.
Will there be any value to me making a video when an AI can
just crap out, you know, cats in a field or like cat Christmas.
I came across some of this like cat Christmas train AI video
on Facebook at some point. Of course it was on Facebook too.
Of course it was on Facebook. I don't know.
But what I do know is that I stress out about it less because
I'm not in one of those precarious chips all in positions.
So that helps. And I know that we have a good team and we have a creative team
and we've diversified. We're actually working on how does LMG make money 2024 right now.
And the reason it's called 2024 is even though the video is going
to come out in 2025, it's going to be based on our 2024 financial
year. So Elijah has been tasked with it.
And he's been going around like interviewing various people
because in the past, like I did these videos, but I actually
thought this might be even more interesting if we have an
outsider because he's not involved in the financial dealings
of the company. He just gets his paycheck, right? Like so he's like talking to Nick about, you know, create a
warehouse. He's like talking to Colton about business. He's talking to like Josh from accounting about like money
and just like kind of trying to piece it together. And I might end up having to make some corrections to the
script or whatever else. You might end up making some assumptions. But I think it's going to be really interesting to see that
perspective instead of just the like, because I sometimes forget
what I know or I forget what I know that you don't know or don't
know that you don't know or like, like I have blind spots because
I've been looking so closely at it for functionally like half of
my adult life, right? And I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to doom and gloom, but
like basically unless you like work in a trade, basically,
because I don't see those going anywhere.
Who knows what's going to exist in 10 years, 20 years?
Yeah. Yeah. It is what it is.
If you work for like any tech company, basically, like do I think
we'll be able to ride the wave? Yeah. Do I know we're going to ride the wave?
No, not technically. Bigger companies than us have failed.
Yeah. Smarter people than us have failed.
Like every day, basically. Like it's, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
Happy holidays from France. Listening to six month old WAN shows on road trips is interesting.
How often do you all take a look back at what you've been doing
to inspire what you do moving forward?
Not very often. I feel like for, I was going to say, it's usually thrust upon
me more than anything. Yeah. I think the audience brings it back to us.
They'll post like funny memes from older videos or, I mean, yeah,
that's I think the main vehicle by which old content is brought
up to me or something. One that comes up for me often is I'll look at the 60 minute
real time viewership because it'll surface videos that like had
a little spike and I'll be like, oh, that thing.
That was kind of cool. Like one showed up for me yesterday, the 500 FPS gaming PC.
Allegedly, a new GPU might be coming from NVIDIA soon.
Allegedly. So I sent that over to the content team.
I was like, hey, next writer's meeting. Let's schedule the 1000 FPS gaming PC.
Let's see if we can hit 1000 FPS in like, you know, some games.
Sure. And that would be, that'd be fun.
We did it as a live stream last time. I think we could do it as a live stream again.
I think that'd be a blast. Yeah. I, one thing that I actually do like is the like, I don't know
if other Android versions do this probably, but like the pixel
photo memories thing. Yeah. So like, I, I, you know, we're talking about CES a bunch this
week. I had a photo memory coming through my reel of like Brandon Taren
and I gearing up for CES and like, I think it was like 2016 or
something. And it's like, oh, wow. Yeah.
Cool. I guess like flight day that year was today this year.
It's interesting. I like stuff like that.
More. Yeah. Hi, WAN.DLL.
Been a fan for 12 years and I'm now in the midst of a PhD
studying GAN and A and transistors. I think that's an L.
L? Yeah. Lowercase.
I've not heard of those ones. So gallium nitride and probably aluminum.
Nickel? Something. No, no.
Nicholas and I. It's, it doesn't matter. It's okay.
Oh, they're the, they're the periodic symbols. You got it.
What is the coolest chip level tech you've seen demoed that
didn't catch on? HBM, Octane, et cetera.
Well, HBM has caught on. Yeah. Has that not caught on?
HBM's big news in the data center, even if it's not really a big deal
for consumers.
Optane though. Yeah, dude. 3D cross point.
I'm so cool. And if I had to, I don't know about chip level tech, but I would say
that the coolest tech that I wish had caught on, even though it
doesn't matter now that we have OLED is SED.
These things looked so flipping cool.
Man, who was it? Canon.
Canon was working on this. Canon's SED.
Hold on images. Man, where would I even, where would I even find this?
Here, here you go. Dude, this stuff looked flipping wild.
It was like CRT, everything that's good about a CRT, but this flat.
Whoa. Yeah. And this was like back in the mid 2000s or whatever.
Surface conduction electron emitter display.
So cool. Was supposed to bring the best of both LCD and CRT, but it didn't work out.
The stuff looked so cool. I didn't know why it didn't work out.
I think it was expensive or there was like patent disputes 2004.
Canon and Toshiba announced they had the answer.
Toshiba predicted that by 2010, at least a third of TVs over 40 inches would be SED.
It was supposed to be easy. They can be printed with an inkjet type device.
However, a part of the companies were having trouble with the yields.
Canon announced it was still working to bring down production costs and blah, blah, blah.
Costs five times as much as LCDs to produce.
So yeah, there you go. It's a shame release as SED was by far the best quality of all the flat panel displays.
From what I saw, it looked like it was going to be absolutely bananese.
Awesome. As far as I can tell, it was patents.
Applied nanotech, a subsidiary of Nanoproprietary holds a number of patents related to FED and SED manufacturing.
Ooh. Anyway, bummer.
No, nobody's still working on it. It's well dead and buried.
Work as a carpenter building new houses.
Love using new tech in the trades. Is there any tech that you think should be standard in new homes or to be used by tradesmen?
Hmm. Standard in new homes.
I mean, a lot of stuff that I would care about is already happening.
Like they're wiring houses up for Ethernet now, which is good.
With the conduit? Well, okay, conduit.
Yeah. Conduit would be sick. That's not new tech though.
Conduit is king. It's not new tech though. Okay.
Jack Logun says heat pumps.
I read an article today that blew my flipping mind.
Apparently, they're like having a really hard time getting heat pumps to take off in Germany
because like it's become a politicized issue.
What? Or something because some of the previous messaging around it was that it's more environmentally
conscious and so people, certain people are just having like a knee jerk.
You can't take away my natural gas like reaction to it or something.
And I'm just, I was reading this.
And you know when you just like are reading an article and then you just your brain hurts
and you like you immediately get a headache and you're like, what are you fucking stupid?
Like are you actually a fucking idiot?
Like do you have a functioning brainstem?
So it's like talking about how like heat pumps, I mean they've been around freaking forever
and they're just, they're just obviously a good idea.
The only thing I've heard negatively about them. Obviously.
I have no idea if this is true or not, but I've heard, I have no idea.
Yeah. But I've heard that some cities, the combination of EVs and heat pumps taking off and all this
kind of stuff, their electric delivery infrastructure is starting to be very taxed.
I could do that being kind of challenging, but at the rate of penetration in Germany,
I'd say that's probably not the issue. It's just that they're not being adopted at all.
Did the sick move of just shutting down all their nuclear plants and then buying power from Russia?
Yeah. Or if they have to go around the loop, then they buy energy that is sold from Russia to
India and then repackaged in India and then sold to the states and then repackaged in
the states and sold to Germany. That's another, that works too.
That's definitely, that's good. Dude, heat pumps are amazing.
The one drawback, and this is quite overcome with current generation ones, but the one
drawback is that in very low outside temperatures, they can have a hard time heating because
there just isn't enough heat to pump into the house.
Oh my God, heat pumps are just obvious.
If you can look at one number, be more better than other number.
Dude, it made my brain hurt so, so much.
Geothermal heat pumps are awesome and overcome the problem.
That's not going to be available for everyone. Yes.
Yeah, that's not, that's not something you can just do at home necessarily.
I haven't heard of that though and it sounds sick. Although I would, I would love to see something like that become mainstream.
Okay, sure. There. That's going to be, that's going to be the thing that I'd love to see become mainstream
is just right before you, before, because anything can be economical if it's, if it's,
So build like a geothermal pump for the apartment building.
Well, no apartment buildings. Yeah. You could do that relatively easily.
Linus doesn't use a heat pump. Sure does.
Got him.
So, so what you could do though is if you, if you have it, if you have the, if you have
the machinery just like ready to go easily enough, like if it's just something you can
rent, you know, bring on a truck, on the back of a truck to construction site, it like drills
down deep enough that you get to, you get below the point where the temperature stays
basically the same, just kind of like goes down, like hollows out a thing and then you
just like embed the thing, fill it up and then boom, like that's it.
It's like a permanent installation, you know, in the front yard of, you know, a detached
home or, you know, to your point about apartment buildings, like in sort of the, like the front
area or accessible through the basement, you know, whatever, because you got to have access
at some point potentially. Yeah. I could, someone says that's already starting to happen, which is freaking awesome.
Yeah. Sick. Yeah.
Love it here. Larry underscore DE says German here, this discussion sucks ass here.
Yeah. Dude, that's, dude, that's wild.
Kind of funny. That's wild brother. At least a little bit funny.
Yeah. I wish it was funny. I wish, I wish it was like, how do things like this end up politicized?
I don't get it. Too many things lately have been politicized.
I feel like math is not political.
Yeah. Way too many things have been politicized.
It's like politics are, are wrapped into like every single conversation these days.
And it's, it's really honestly very exhausting. RM Renfield Linus Law Linus literally installed his own heat pumps with a bit of help.
Yes. Now those are in my old place, but I do actually have.
They're not geothermal, which is what we're just not geothermal. I do actually have two heat pumps at my current place.
I just only use the heat during the like kind of changeover period because it is still more
economical on our bill to use the inflow radiant heating or not.
Sorry, not radiant.
Whatever the inflow water circulating boiler.
There you go. Boiler.
Hello. Sorry. I was just going to tell you to go for it.
Oh yeah. Sure. I'm feeling directionless in my career.
I only have experience with video production, but I want to expand into my company's leadership
roles. How do I find fresh footing?
Ask your, ask your current leader if you can take some, something off his shoulders,
their shoulders. And I, hey, I've been working really well with this group of people doing this thing.
What do you think? If I, if I manage them and pick like, pick like two people, make it, make it small or
ask what it would take. Yeah. That's the other thing too is like, start a conversation.
A really good characteristic of a leader is their ability to have an open and frank conversation.
And so showing that you can do that, I would say would be step one.
And then from there, you know, if they say like, Hey, here's what it will take.
You work toward that. And then you have another conversation in six months.
If they say, no, we're not open to that. Well, hey, that's good for you to know too.
So that if that's your goal, you know not to waste too much more of your time there.
Yeah. It is the second time I get something from LTD store.
Nice. First was a mouse mat, a humongous one.
And it stuck with me. Never, ever going to replace it unless it breaks.
Any more science behind the smoothness?
Um, no, it's just, it turns out that making a good mouse pad is just a matter of using
good quality materials.
If you use a bad mouse pad, it's because they didn't pay for the better materials.
I don't know what to tell you. It's amazing.
It's amazing how many things are like that. I was going to say, it still makes me angry.
The lanyard thing. Every time you go into it, every time you rant about it, I just get more and more angry.
The lanyard thing bothers me so much.
Don't think about it. Don't think about it.
Yo, as a teacher in game development space, more students haven't played the zeitgeist
games like we refer to Half-Life, Deus Ex, et cetera.
Any modern games you suggest fit the bill for industry shifters?
Modern. Baldur's Gate 3.
Baldur's Gate 3. Elden Ring.
That's a good one.
I don't know if this was an industry shifter. Fortnite.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, to be honest. You don't have to like it, but you do have to respect it.
The MOBAs are pretty huge. Yeah.
Yeah, League of Legends.
Bejeweled. What?
Peggle. How's an industry shifter?
Look. What do you mean? And it's not modern.
It's literally modern game? Like King Activision Blizzard.
How old are you?
Half-Life Blizzard. I alica. I agree with Bejeweled not going to lie.
Dude, it's 25 years old.
What do you mean? Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right.
I'm talking the modern iteration. Oh, sorry.
Oh, that's the one I meant. You meant Candy Crush. Yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry.
I meant Candy Crush. I don't play either of them. I figured you might have meant.
Yeah, that makes sense. Candy Crush. But people are actually backing up Bejeweled.
They're like, it's 25. It's a modern game. Yes, it's not Candy Crush.
Yeah, Candy Crush is literally King Activision Blizzard.
That's why I said that because I was thinking of Candy Crush. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I brain farted. It happens from time to time.
Happens a lot. This is the new controversy.
We can't say modern things are 25. I don't think World of Warcraft counts as modern.
No, it doesn't because it's also incredibly old.
Yeah. In that case, you'd probably say Roblox.
Yeah, you could say Roblox. Is Minecraft modern?
No. When did Minecraft come out?
I'm guessing 15 years ago? No way.
It's a guess. 2009, bloody hell, 16 years ago.
I was close. Yeah. Is that...
Yeah, hard to say. Don't think about it. I don't think that's modern, man.
Yeah, but Roblox is almost... I see this kind of derivative.
Like Minecraft was more of a shifter, you know?
I don't even know because... He has Roblox even modern? When the devil did Roblox come out?
2006. What? It's more than Minecraft.
Wow. I had no idea. That's hilarious.
That's wild. I never heard about it until like a few years ago.
All right. Well, definitely a shifter. Definitely not modern then.
Yeah, fair enough.
Fall Guys? I don't think Fall Guys was a shifter.
No, it was a flash in the pan. But I feel like things being a quick flash in the pan is, in some ways, a shift that
the industry has undergone. Like, look at how quickly Pal World was the biggest thing ever.
And then... I don't remember them. I mostly remember Pal World, but around that time...
Hell livers. Chomp. And then...
A big one, I think, would be Concord.
Just as a case study. But it was never big.
A case study for all the time. I mean, all the time.
It's definitely going to shift the way the industry invests in their gaming projects.
That's not wrong. No one's going to play it. But you see what I mean.
Dan pointing out the like, you should play this game so you can understand why spending
like, whatever, 400 million dollars is. Well, you can't even play it.
Yeah. Right? Right?
But just as a case study of like, industry shifting. One says GT5.
I think that's actually... There's a solid argument to be made there.
GTA Online, more accurately, I would say, is the industry shifter.
So I agree. Does it...
I think it only counts as modern because it is still so actively played, though, because
it is also, like, 11 years old or something.
12. Shoot. Yeah.
Was it... I think it was Steam's summary for this year.
I think it was like 25% of all playtime was like games older than 10 years or something
like that. I meant to add that to the WAN document. I think...
I think, however, you might still be able to count that because of specifically GTA5
Online RP. Yeah. Because that is not that old.
That's a relatively new thing and it absolutely was a game changer.
Yeah. Skulling bones.
Okay. It may be an interesting case study.
I don't think you need to play it, though. I think it's much more interesting if you look through the development history.
I don't know.
Yeah. All right, Dan. Feel free to, like, jump in when we're petering out, by the way.
Don't be shy. Yeah, sure.
It's always a bit difficult. Dear Dan, Luke, and Linus.
I recently got a 7900 XTX Mercury Magnetic GPU.
Are you going to give high-end Radeon 9000 a try?
Do you think you'll play through Indy in the Great Circle?
And any thoughts on AMD RTX?
From the rumors that I've seen, there isn't going to be Radeon 9000.
And from the rumors I've seen, there isn't going to be high-end Radeon next gen, whatever
they end up calling it.
Will I play through Indy in the Great Circle? I want to. It actually looks really good.
It looks really fun. As for thoughts on AMD's ray tracing, I think the closest thing we have to a representation
of AMD's, what will be AMD's current-gen ray tracing allegedly very soon, is the PlayStation
5 Pro. And it looks like they've made some strides.
Although, even there, I think all we saw was next-generation AI, so next-generation
like AI upscaling. I don't think it actually had next-generation ray tracing yet, did it?
I don't recall it might have. Anyway, it was kind of like a mishmash of their last gen and their upcoming gen in the PS5
Pro. Let's see if Chad can jump in and correct me here, because I'm not sure if I can remember
the exact details there. But as for whether we do a Radeon challenge again, I'm not sure.
I feel like AMD's driver situation has been resolved well enough for me.
I haven't really had any issues with mine. But as I said last week, my intention is to get a 5090.
At this time. To play Slave Aspire.
Yeah. And dredge. Yeah.
And don't forget Unravel 2. Bellatra.
Unravel 2? Yeah. I just started it with Yvonne.
You're two yarn creatures and you're ravelled.
Unravel 2. Oh.
Yeah, I shouldn't say it looks fun because we started it.
This graphic looks like Pikmin. Hmm.
Recent reviews mixed. Yeah. It just seems to be not actually that useful.
I see. Just disappointing.
Oh, what really? I was able to, I didn't notice any of this.
When you start playing, these are from early December.
Two days ago? Mid December. Yeah.
So a lot of it's like my save got screwed up because of this.
That's sad. So I think you just didn't experience it.
Cool.
Hey D-Lo. It seems we can never be surprised and all hardware leaks.
When was the last time you were truly surprised by release?
And why do you think everyone leaks when we ever be able to control it?
I was surprised by how good Battle Mage was.
Yeah. That's pretty recent.
When was I surprised?
Man.
Well, certainly not by a Pixel phone.
They're the leakiest of leaky things.
Lift at bars. Um.
Man. When is someone just like completely blindsided everybody?
If you guys can think of any, I'm absolutely open to suggestions here.
I can tell you if... I mean, I was very surprised by Apple M1, but everyone knew it was coming.
We just didn't know how good it was going to be.
Last time you were truly surprised by release.
Like I had like a, wow, I can't believe they kept that under wraps.
That, I have no idea. The performance things, like I think the M1 example is really good.
Battle Mage worked for me, but... Nintendo has up until this most recent one, I feel like, been pretty tight-lipped.
Like the Switch, I think, was pretty surprising. I was surprised about the Switch.
That's a long time ago, though. Yeah, I know, right?
Um, as for why do you think everything leaks?
Well, it's because humans are human and they're flawed and messy and weak and...
Yeah, what do you want?
And they're conflicted? Um, Valve keeps things pretty tight.
Yeah, Steam Deck was a big surprise. Steam Deck came out of nowhere.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, very true. Yeah.
I think that's kind of it, though. In the spirit of what you said last time, should we move on?
13Lew says, wasn't the Apple M1 a serious surprise?
It was a serious surprise in the same way that, like, the Apple Car would have been a serious surprise.
Like, everyone knew they were working on it. They had literal listings for, like, we need someone to run the Apple Car department.
We're not working on it, though. Right, like, everyone knew they were working on ARM CPUs.
Same as, like, their 5G modem.
Like, yeah, it'll be a surprise when it comes out, finally,
because no one thought they were not going to give up on it at this point.
But no, everyone knows what they're working on, so...
There are two holes in the mod mat. What is it for?
Thanks, guys. Oh. Like, static, wrist rest things?
Yes. And we have kind of a clever attachment mechanism for it.
But they're the little button things for attaching an ESD thing.
Hey, you went on to a little. I'm currently building a YouTube title and thumbnail A-B testing tool,
but I'm not sure how to make it unique. What do you recommend for such a tool?
Also, hey, from Ottawa, Ontario. I have no idea, because the truth is,
even YouTube's own tools are sort of fundamentally flawed
and very difficult to glean useful information from,
because they don't, through the dashboard or through the API,
provide certain information that you would need.
Like, they don't actually tell you the click-through percentage
and how they compare. Without knowing that, you don't really know how effective it is at drawing clicks.
I don't know what to tell you. But our team would even ask for, rather than...
Go look at Mr. Beast's tool that he already made.
Yeah, if you can do it better than that, then great. Try to find some value add, yeah.
Linus, do you think you'll talk to a lawyer in case you're forced to testify in the honey trial?
Also, sometimes class action lawsuits will auto-opt in,
like how Sony sent out checks for leaking customers' data.
Luke has left the building.
I just, like, I don't think people understand what happened.
Honey's not going to trial, by the way.
What is he going to testify?
Someone told us through some video that not as many people watched
that it was bad, so we stopped using it.
What do you want?
Greetings, LLD. I'm moving on. Greetings, LLD. Have either of you tried Bellantro yet?
I got it a few days ago and I cannot stop playing it. Please send help.
It's one of the few good games for mobile, but it's also on PC.
Thanks. I would say the other way around, but okay, dude.
You tried it, right? Yeah. I haven't tried it yet.
I heard it's really good, though. It's a good game.
I beat the highest difficulty thing with a couple decks.
That was fun. It feels more RNG heavy than Slay the Spire does, I think.
This guy. I got it, dude. I got it.
I've also beat every single highest possible difficulty mode
and have every single achievement for Slay the Spire.
There's that. Maybe you just could have rogue lights.
I have three beautiful children.
Got them. Darn it.
Well, I can collect his achievements. I suck at Bellantro and I only have a girlfriend.
I got nothing. Goddamn.
You'll figure it out, man. You still can't beat Final Fantasy VI.
Yeah. Double skill issue. But no, I find it's a little bit RNG heavy for me.
But it's a good game and I'm not hating on it to be clear.
I liked it. I'm very happy with the purchase. I bought it.
I had really good fun and then I was done with it. I'm surprised by the people that are like,
I literally can't stop playing and they play it for months.
Why are you hating on our audience? I don't get that.
Why are you hating on them? Because we know there's a ton of them out there that are playing Bellantro right now.
And the fact that people thought it was a genuine game of the year competitor,
I was like, whoa, whoa.
You are making so many enemies right now.
100%. So many people. It's a great game.
It's a fantastic game. If you like roguelikes, if you like card games and roguelikes,
and I'm a sleigh of the spire guy, so yeah,
it was like a guaranteed purchase for me. I bought it.
I had a really good time with it and then I was done.
But it's too easy. It's too RNG heavy.
It's not too easy. Doesn't deserve to be game of the year.
Yeah, what a hater. What a hater. Hot talk.
You're such a hater. I'm not a hater. It's a great game.
Such a hater. I just don't understand playing it forever.
I don't know. I played it. I had a really fantastic time.
I got to kind of what I decided was the end for me and then I was like, cool.
Then I moved on. You're being such a wheel of fortune right now. I think you should get it.
It's a fantastic game. It's a great game.
Didn't come out in 2004, which hurts it, but it's a fantastic game.
Greetings, Limer Dino Dingo.
I'm an IT company. I have 10 years of network experience and a newbie got hired and is making slightly
less than me with no experience. How do I approach my boss?
Hey, I'm going to go shop around unless you can fix this.
I don't know. I would check to try to figure out, depending on the position that you're in, you've been
there for 10 years. Are you in the same role? Should you be in a higher role?
Because certain roles can have a salary cap effectively.
You said a newbie got hired.
If you're still in a junior IT role, then you're going to have-
Is it possible you're not that good?
I'm not saying that's the case, but I'm saying it is a possibility.
It's a possibility. Or you're stuck in a capped role and are not getting a promotion, and either that means
you need to go somewhere else or you need to talk about why you're not getting a promotion
potentially. Because it could be just a salary ban.
To Luke's point, you could be capped in that anywhere above that you have to start taking
on supervisory or management responsibilities.
I can tell you that in pretty much any organization, your compensation as an individual contributor
is going to reach a level that can only be broken through if you can manage.
Because the only way to scale as an organization is to have people who can manage other people.
A flat structure works great in theory, and if your valve works great in practice, but
I think valve is literally- They have a free money trick.
The exception that proves the rule, right?
Oops, millions of dollars. Yeah, infinite money hack.
Man, that's a tough one. How do you start the conversation, though, was the question.
How do I start that conversation? How do I approach my boss?
Hey, I feel like my role has become a little bit stagnant.
Yeah, what would it take for me to have my compensation increase?
They're probably going to ask you questions.
What prompted this?
What difference are you expecting?
It is never a bad idea to just shop around on the market, either.
Before you approach your boss. What you might find out is, oh crap, both me and this newbie are actually doing way better.
Both making a lot. We're both doing way better than industry average.
Because I don't know. I don't know what numbers we're talking about.
It is possible. It's definitely possible. Maybe that's part of the rationale at your company.
We already pay really well. That is what it is. If you want a higher pay, you need to be in a managerial role, or whatever the case may be.
It also is quite possible, based on that if you're not really getting increases in compensation
over the last 10 years, that your company is not taking care of people very well,
and that you would be better off just going out and seeing if there's greener pastures out there.
That way, you could decide at that point, do you want to pursue those greener pastures,
or do you want to take a picture of those greener pastures to your boss and basically go,
hey, are we able to have a conversation about my compensation?
If they say yes, then you have an open and frank conversation where you basically just say,
look, I feel like with my level of experience, I should be due for a compensation increase.
Here's what I think it should be. You don't have to disclose that you have an actual offer, for instance.
But if they're not open to the conversation, then hey, maybe it is time to move on to somewhere that you're valued.
I have 10 years of network experience.
That's an interesting line, too, because make sure that what you're doing is giving you experience
in a thing that you want to do and a thing that has growth potential.
Because if you have 10 years of experience doing sorting thimbles at the company,
you said network experience was probably quite valuable, but I'm speaking more generally, not necessarily you specifically.
But if you have 10 years of experience sorting thimbles, let's say,
and nobody needs thimble sorted anymore, then you have 10 years of experience in nothing.
Unless you can find a way to adapt that experience to something else and make an argument for why it still counts.
But that's one of the reasons why Linus is mentioning the whole management track thing again.
Management is one of the easiest things to cross over.
Well, it's not easy. People try and fail all the time, but it's one of the most obvious.
Yes. There. I'll agree with that.
So if you have years of experience managing that can often help you cross over into other fields.
Yeah. A good manager is invaluable, which unintuitively in English means very valuable, right?
Luke, read a book. Huh?
Oh. Hey, y'all, I just got a full tower case and I realized that both front fans were backward
and the only intake for four years has been my power supply fan.
What's the biggest long term PC build mistake that you've made?
Not as big as yours, Rob, because your only intake for four years was nothing.
Your power supply fan is not an intake.
It's an exhaust.
Yeah. So good job, Rob.
You win. Long term PC build mistake that you've made.
Uh, gee, I don't know. Most of them become obvious fairly quickly.
Pretty quick. We had, um, oh, did we ever have...
I bricked the hack out of a board like right after we became an actual official company.
That was cool. That's the only motherboard I've ever killed.
Yeah, but I feel like this is like long term, like it was running for a long time.
I don't, I can't think of anything like that.
Most, most computer problems are genuinely...
They work or they don't? Yeah, it'll turn on or what? To avoid the ding.
They're pretty binary.
But like... That did not avoid the ding. How did that avoid the ding?
Because no pun intended. Ugh.
You intended it. I'm not doing it. No.
You intended it? No. Otherwise I wouldn't have qualified it.
He's going to come ding. All right. You can come ding.
There you go. I mean, it's got a ding. Was that satisfying?
Did it feel good? Actually, yeah. Nice.
Hey, that's how you get people's attention at that fancy jewelry store.
Diamonds, please. Yeah.
Take my money. Yeah, but when you, when you do that, you know, you're kind of a dingus.
Because we always ding us. Get it?
That's pretty good. No, that's not good. Don't tell me that's good.
All right. That's why we have the ding. They're not, they're not good.
I enjoy them anyways. The ding is for the bad ones.
I still like them. Ideal. First merch message and I finally get a screwdriver.
Nice. Buying one for my birthday tomorrow.
Nice. What is Luke's favorite Star Wars episode?
Episode. I can't remember if you've been asked. The movies are called episodes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just trying to help you here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Season. Because even though you're named after the main character, you're just woefully ignorant.
Oh, what do you mean? Jar Jar being.
Jar Jar. Jar Jar laughing. Jar Jar laughing.
I listen to. That works pretty well. That's a, that's a space character name.
Both of you. I listened to a Star Wars audiobook on the way here today.
Cringe. Why? Because it used to be cool.
Oh no, I listened to the old EU ones. Oh, all right.
What were you listening to? This one wasn't very good actually.
Okay. What was it? Cestus something.
I can look it up. I don't care anymore. It wasn't very good.
All right. Yeah, I wasn't. The one right before it.
Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, wow.
Oh, wow. Yikes. What was.
The book I read before, or the book I listened to technically before that was a Timothy
Zahn book. All of his are fantastic. And it was the first book that MJ is in.
The Cestus deception. Yeah, that was it. I wasn't a huge fan.
I normally really like any book that features like Clone Wars era Obi-Wan, but I was not
that into it. Is Air to the Empire the first one with Mary Jade?
That sounds. That's the Thrawn trilogy, right?
That sounds potentially right.
Thrawn trilogy is so good. Yeah.
Anyways, favorite Star Wars episode.
Yeah, that was that was Timothy Zahn's first Star Wars book, too.
I didn't even know that. Great book. Really fantastic.
If this has been a contentious show, you could just say one.
Phantom Menace. Are you kidding me? I told you a contentious show.
I really didn't really like one that much.
There it goes. There goes the internet. Good job, Luke.
Okay. Go ahead. Favorite episode.
Come on. Let's go. I'm trying to think.
I'm trying to think. I don't even remember the names of the most recent three.
Oh, I don't. Oh, there's no shot. They don't count.
Yeah. No, no. I got this.
Hold on. Force Awakens. 79.
Last Jedi. Return of the King. I don't know.
Return of the King. Star Wars Man of Marathon, but you just stop.
Oh man.
I think it might be five.
Oh, wow. That's the safest pick.
Empire? That's literally the like.
Like the good one. I want to get craft on the internet.
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna say the safest possible thing and go hide in my hidey hole
Like at least at least pick like revenge of the Sith or something. What would you pay revenge sure?
I'll take revenge of the Sith. Yeah, it's it's modern Star Wars with cool fight choreography and is mostly pretty much
Three yeah, three's pretty good. I was gent
You're not even gonna believe me. I was genuinely debating between three and other ones because one actually sucks
Two's not that interesting right now But I like I like representing the prequels a little bit three's pretty good
for Sorry For did they catch any of that dad? Oh, yeah, I'm sure they did for I don't think has all that much going on in a modern context
Attack of the clones. Are you kidding me? It has like worldly Yoda
For I'll try spinning for I was thinking too spinning's a good trick. Oh a new hope
Yeah, but a new hope is just it's such a It's not that was the safe. It's so digest. No Empire is the safe one
Oh, because a new hope is generally regarded as groundbreaking and what like it started the whole thing
But not a particularly innovative or interesting film
Whereas the whole idea of like the bad guys win and stuff and like how how dark Empire was and
Like it's it's widely regarded to be a way I genuinely thought for was the safest option
Oh, okay. Well one thing's for sure. You would not win the internet with like my favorite childhood one
Which was return of the Jedi. I loved return of the Jedi. I love the Ewoks. I loved
That was the best lightsaber duel at the time. Yes
It's so much better than what came before. Yeah, like the original duel in a new hope was like
But you like old man fight, right? Whereas we're seeing like, you know, Luke and his prime kind of thing until they completely, you know
Changed what lightsaber dueling is which, you know, you eventually kind of come around to because it's pretty cool to watch
You know, it's mini CGI Yoda, you know fight things or whatever
Empire is Hoth in Cloud City, right?
Is it
Are you trying right now to like upset me is that the one I'm still going with number one. I don't care
That's the one where they crawl in the animal to stay warm. Yeah, is that that one? Yeah
Is that the one where the guy runs around with the ice cream maker ice cream maker, you don't even know that one
What are you even talking about a week? Yeah, see someone said yes. Yeah, cuz it is ice cream maker week
You know, what are you talking about? You know nothing
What is this a meme no, it's not actually
In cloud city one of the guys who's evacuating Runs around a corner and he's holding what's supposed to look like futuristic technology
But it's a literally just an ice cream maker from like the the crafty department. I'm assuming
And somebody asked George Lucas about it in an interview. So he gave him a name
So now he has like lore and stuff, but it's literally just some extra running around a corner holding an ice cream
And it's cannon, I love it. I did not know this
Wow It looks like futuristic tech to me actually and it matches like the general aesthetic of the station and everything
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I think there's a subreddit about that. It's a book light
Really, yeah, they just find things that are just off the shelf to look futuristic
Is it another reference you guys don't know probably big Luke. No, I don't know big Luke big Luke Star Wars
The bigger Luke theory That's a book light
Bigger Luke wiki.com Luke prime and bigger Luke
Sorry, what is this? I don't see anything about bigger Luke here
Bigger Luke commonly abbreviated to BL
What Lord is it? We're on Star Wars nerds levels. I don't know
I Got lucky and whatnot. What is this? What even is this site wiki dot?
Okay, Luke dot addict. What is this?
Slash bigger It's pretty straightforward. Okay, but what is it?
The cannon Luke hypothesis Sometimes simply the bigger Luke hypothesis in which it is theorized that within the Star Wars universe and canon
there does indeed exist a version of Luke Skywalker that is slightly larger than a
positive regular Luke Skywalker or Luke prime and then they have examples of where their height changes
Yeah, this is not even this is not even trying
Luke this is not even trying to be credible. I
Mean it's pretty good theory Yeah, okay
I like dark Jar Jar theory much more. Yeah sith sith lord Jar Jar
That would have been sick if that actually ended up becoming no, that would have been really stupid
We've been kind of that we would have said that's a little higher on the iceberg than bigger
That's like center Earth
Okay, all right, can we get this show done?
Yeah, keep telling me don't know anything about Star Wars. Yeah, I am I am you yeah, I've never said knowing
You're allowed to know the wrong things
Hello, Sen, I love portable handheld consoles. What is your favorite computer form factor or the strangest one you've ever seen?
my favorite computer form factor
I
Top's are pretty good. I thought it was your favorite computer form factor
I mean if they were more reliable and more performant I guess they were they asked my favorite form factor
They didn't ask what you said it they would be if they were something that they're not yeah
Cuz you could well sure but you could use them as a desktop. They're versatile you can take them with you
I'm not things that you said well. Yeah, sure, but like I don't know
I Sure fine
Okay, it's unwielding costumes for this coming here. Okay, Demal Taylor suggests we go as Luke and bigger
That's great And moving on
I'm looking to build a high-end BC, but I'm also not in a hurry
Is it better to fight it out with resellers or wait six to eight months and hope scarcity and terraces aren't a thing much later this year
I don't have the answers. I mean we did that video a little while back where I basically said
Sorry, I don't know the answers I mean we know there's new
Allegedly rumored GPUs coming very soon I usually so that's really good to know because it will tend to have an impact on the secondhand market
And on the you know current product pricing
Beyond that we don't really know what's coming
Good luck everybody hey DLL trying to decide on an upgrade path for my
10 850 K and our X 6900 XT
Got these naming conventions currently 1440p. It's in nothing yet, Dan
I know it gets just gets worse also interested in trying a I guess this is a Thunderbolt display, but I'm sure Thunderbolt display
That's like completely unnecessary. Why would you do that? How does a GPU interface with a Thunderbolt card?
It doesn't don't bother Okay, hold on. Okay. Well, okay, so some Thunderbolt
Cards have a DisplayPort in so they will inject that DisplayPort into your Thunderbolt connection
So you are effectively just using your GPU, but then you're just using DisplayPort
So there's no reason to use a Thunderbolt display The only reason you would want to do that is if you want to use optical Thunderbolt like I do to carry Thunderbolt over some great
distance then you use a dock to Go DisplayPort out to your monitor and then just use your
Thunderbolt dock for Thunderbolt for, you know connectivity or whatever else
There are so few Thunderbolt displays
That and none of them offer the most compelling mix of price and features and performance that you just
shouldn't bother At all, there's just no real reason to do it that I can think of
Last one I've got for you today. I'm the tech dad that has been waiting for hex OS
I am researching building a NAS for the first time and finding it daunting, but fun
Any suggestions on where to start?
Wendell has some good videos sure there level on tax. Yeah, I
Also built our John's bow NAS. We did a video on that. That was phenomenal. Nice. Is that a ShortCircuit?
No, that was a full LTT. Oh, it was the first time I've ever like built a computer with a video
And it just happened to be ours
Cool. Yeah. Oh, yeah, this one. So this is actually a pretty good video on like building a NAS
And so you you built this one. I built almost exactly that one. Cool
I couldn't get a cheaper CPU. So it has an expensive CPU and I couldn't get a cheaper CPU that had a built-in GPU
So when I want to use it, I just stick a riser card in a 1080
Into the motherboard. I need to upgrade that eventually
But it's been phenomenal. It runs all day every day
But when I need to diagnose this thing I actively make it more complicated and also significantly change variables
Yeah, but I haven't needed to because it just works
Thanks, Todd Howard That's all I got. Oh, there's one in
There's one in incoming do you want to touch that? Den Linus and Lake how can shit GPT right box?
slash pez the bar exam, but me ought to correct is
yearly functional And then they translated it for us. How does chat GPT write books and pass the bar exam, but my auto correct is barely functional
It's a good good question. Good question. Good question. See you later. It's all a question. Thanks for watching the WAN Show
We'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel. Bye
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