{"video_id":"fp_y8EUhalkUv","title":"Closer Look - Why David is Buying a PS5 Pro","channel":"FP Exclusives","show":"FP Exclusives","published_at":"2024-09-13T00:42:00.020Z","duration_s":1158,"segments":[{"start_s":0.0,"end_s":2.836,"text":"Am I buying a PS5 Pro? Yes. 2 00:00:02.836 --> 00:00:07.240 Here are the reasons why I've enjoyed so many games on my PS5. 3 00:00:07.474 --> 00:00:09.642 Some of my favorite games of all time 4 00:00:09.642 --> 00:00:10.577 have come out on the PS5. 5 00:00:10.577 --> 00:00:12.512 Final Fantasy 16. 6 00:00:12.512 --> 00:00:14.080 Yeah, it's coming on PC, 7 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:16.149 but I've already beaten it twice on PS5 8 00:00:16.149 --> 00:00:17.817 and I'm going to play it again on PC. 9 00:00:17.817 --> 00:00:18.718 That's why I like this machine. 10 00:00:18.718 --> 00:00:21.287 It's a great place to experience these games 11 00:00:21.287 --> 00:00:23.823 without really worrying about making sure they're working 12 00:00:23.823 --> 00:00:24.991 right, making sure I'm getting 13 00:00:24.991 --> 00:00:28.995 the best optimization and just go and I play and it's so easy. 14 00:00:28.995 --> 00:00:30.597 It's so quick. That's a big one. 15 00:00:30.597 --> 00:00:33.033 I just sit down, hit one button within 10 seconds, 16 00:00:33.033 --> 00:00:34.801 everything's turned on, everything sync. 17 00:00:34.801 --> 00:00:37.170 It's just easy. You don't have to think about it. 18 00:00:37.170 --> 00:00:39.806 So I'm a big fan for turning off my brain 19 00:00:39.806 --> 00:00:42.142 when I go home playing console games for that reason. 20 00:00:42.142 --> 00:00:45.011 Another big reason that I'm getting the PS5 Pro. 21 00:00:45.011 --> 00:00:48.548 I'm going to keep my regular PS5 because my partner has 22 00:00:48.548 --> 00:00:49.616 basically co-opted it. 23 00:00:49.616 --> 00:00:51.418 She's playing a ton of games now 24 00:00:51.418 --> 00:00:54.387 and console games are so much easier to share 25 00:00:54.387 --> 00:00:57.957 with people that don't want to fussy dussy 26 00:00:58.158 --> 00:01:01.961 with PCs when you play PCs, you have to know turning on 27 00:01:01.961 --> 00:01:03.930 and off is more of an ordeal than a console. 28 00:01:03.930 --> 00:01:07.200 It's super automatic, super easy going on a on a console, even 29 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:10.236 just like loading it to Steam I had to explain that to her 30 00:01:10.970 --> 00:01:13.973 and kind of give her a tutorial on how to use Steam and stuff. 31 00:01:14.808 --> 00:01:15.909 Whereas a console is 32 00:01:15.909 --> 00:01:16.709 its all right there, it’s 33 00:01:16.709 --> 00:01:17.343 super easy. And 34 00:01:17.343 --> 00:01:20.346 so I like the console experience for being able to share it. 35 00:01:20.580 --> 00:01:23.950 And so now specifically I'm getting the PS5 Pro. 36 00:01:24.417 --> 00:01:27.454 I have been wanting to get two PS5 37 00:01:27.454 --> 00:01:30.023 and I know this is a very much a first world problem. 38 00:01:30.023 --> 00:01:33.193 And what I was doing was I have our living room upstairs 39 00:01:33.193 --> 00:01:35.195 and I have my game cave in the basement 40 00:01:36.229 --> 00:01:38.131 and I've wall mounted my PS5 upstairs 41 00:01:38.131 --> 00:01:40.033 so my partner can basically use that one full time. 42 00:01:40.033 --> 00:01:41.868 That's her PS5 and she's doing that. 43 00:01:41.868 --> 00:01:44.404 And so I've been waiting to get my own PS5 44 00:01:44.404 --> 00:01:46.940 and I was going to buy just like a slim or whatever and do that. 45 00:01:46.940 --> 00:01:49.075 But PS5 Pro on the Horizon make sense. 46 00:01:49.075 --> 00:01:51.077 Just wait to see what it was. 47 00:01:51.077 --> 00:01:52.745 And so I've been waiting for months. 48 00:01:52.745 --> 00:01:55.748 I've been saving my like 50 bucks every two weeks, 49 00:01:55.748 --> 00:01:58.384 putting it into a little account for my PS5 Pro Was 50 00:01:58.384 --> 00:02:02.522 I expecting it to be $600, not $700? 1,000,000,000% 51 00:02:02.922 --> 00:02:05.024 Am I disappointed that have to pay an extra 100 bucks? 52 00:02:05.024 --> 00:02:06.059 Hell yeah. 53 00:02:06.059 --> 00:02:10.897 But not including the stand to me is an overblown issue. 54 00:02:11.331 --> 00:02:14.334 What consoles have come with stands 55 00:02:14.968 --> 00:02:17.237 name a PlayStation console that came with the stand 56 00:02:17.237 --> 00:02:18.171 before the PS5. 57 00:02:19.772 --> 00:02:20.406 They didn't. 58 00:02:20.406 --> 00:02:22.208 It's always been a separate thing. 59 00:02:22.208 --> 00:02:24.043 And so this idea that the stand is 60 00:02:24.043 --> 00:02:27.113 extra is absolutely insane, especially when the PS5 does 61 00:02:27.113 --> 00:02:30.416 stand up pretty good on its own without the stand. 62 00:02:30.850 --> 00:02:32.118 And so I feel like people are 63 00:02:32.118 --> 00:02:34.154 jumping on this hate bandwagon because the prices are 64 00:02:34.154 --> 00:02:35.522 so exorbitant 65 00:02:35.522 --> 00:02:39.058 and trying to focus on these semi cogent points 66 00:02:39.058 --> 00:02:40.126 and kind of bandwagoning 67 00:02:40.126 --> 00:02:41.828 on things that I don't think really matter. 68 00:02:41.828 --> 00:02:44.831 Same with the disk drive. 69 00:02:45.932 --> 00:02:47.767 A lot of you watching this are PC gamers. 70 00:02:47.767 --> 00:02:49.802 When was the last time you had a disc drive in your PC? 71 00:02:49.802 --> 00:02:51.171 When was the last time that was an issue? 72 00:02:51.171 --> 00:02:54.440 We live in a different era and I am a fan of physical media, 73 00:02:55.108 --> 00:02:57.377 but it's different than 74 00:02:57.377 --> 00:02:59.579 it used to be and it's different than movies. 75 00:02:59.579 --> 00:03:01.814 We made that movie recently about- that video... 76 00:03:01.814 --> 00:03:04.751 that video, recently about why you should have physical 77 00:03:04.751 --> 00:03:07.754 Blu rays, and that's because that disc 78 00:03:07.921 --> 00:03:09.489 is the final version of that movie. 79 00:03:09.489 --> 00:03:11.658 You're getting everything you need on that disc, 80 00:03:11.658 --> 00:03:13.159 and if you rip it, you're getting exactly 81 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:14.928 the same experience with or without it. 82 00:03:14.928 --> 00:03:18.264 Whereas physical games, it's basically just a f***ing 83 00:03:18.264 --> 00:03:19.532 license key 84 00:03:19.532 --> 00:03:21.434 and you put it in your console and you have to 85 00:03:21.434 --> 00:03:22.569 install it to your hard drive 86 00:03:22.569 --> 00:03:24.204 because it can't be read fast enough. 87 00:03:24.204 --> 00:03:26.306 Or, or even worse, there's 88 00:03:26.306 --> 00:03:29.309 almost nothing on the disc and it just downloads it anyway. 89 00:03:29.876 --> 00:03:32.912 And so this idea that physical media 90 00:03:33.146 --> 00:03:36.082 needs to be preserved is beautiful, but we lost. 91 00:03:36.082 --> 00:03:37.016 It's already over. 92 00:03:37.016 --> 00:03:42.121 And I don't think pretending like consoles need a disc drive 93 00:03:42.121 --> 00:03:45.592 now is the right place to fight. 94 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:48.194 And you guys know me. 95 00:03:48.194 --> 00:03:49.195 I'm a big retro gamer. 96 00:03:49.195 --> 00:03:50.830 I have physical games 97 00:03:50.830 --> 00:03:52.665 going back all the way to, 98 00:03:52.665 --> 00:03:54.067 I guess less long, less long now. 99 00:03:54.067 --> 00:03:57.403 But I used to have stuff going all the way to the Atari 2600. 100 00:03:58.071 --> 00:04:02.642 And I think that saying that the PS5 Pro 101 00:04:03.543 --> 00:04:06.246 needs a disc drive or to be comparable to a PS3, 102 00:04:06.246 --> 00:04:08.081 which was a big argument, I saw that 103 00:04:08.081 --> 00:04:09.882 it's not comparable to the PS3 because it doesn't come 104 00:04:09.882 --> 00:04:13.453 with a disc drive or a stand that the PS3 did not come with... 105 00:04:14.420 --> 00:04:17.323 is a little unfair because they're different. 106 00:04:17.323 --> 00:04:20.360 The PS3 didn't come with a two terabyte SSD came 107 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:23.830 with the price more comparable with a 20 Gigabyte hard drive. 108 00:04:23.830 --> 00:04:26.833 So like it's not ever going to be apples to apples. 109 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:27.934 And I think that 110 00:04:28.901 --> 00:04:31.904 my overall sentiment, it's $100 too expensive. 111 00:04:32.171 --> 00:04:35.575 I wish that they were undercutting the cost by 112 00:04:36.876 --> 00:04:40.246 taking a little bit of a loss, but they don't need to. 113 00:04:40.246 --> 00:04:42.148 It's a niche product. 114 00:04:42.148 --> 00:04:43.349 And what I found out 115 00:04:43.349 --> 00:04:46.219 after the video was written, the PS4 Pro 116 00:04:46.219 --> 00:04:50.023 sold apparently WiiU numbers and that's lower than I expected. 117 00:04:50.023 --> 00:04:52.058 Obviously the Wii U wasn't a huge success 118 00:04:52.058 --> 00:04:55.261 when you put it in the context of the PS4 family as an addition. 119 00:04:55.962 --> 00:04:56.496 It's like that. 120 00:04:56.496 --> 00:04:57.297 That's pretty good. 121 00:04:57.297 --> 00:05:00.500 You know, 13 to 15 million or whatever isn't bad 122 00:05:00.500 --> 00:05:03.870 when you're adding it to 90 other million consoles sold. 123 00:05:04.170 --> 00:05:07.240 But I think Sony identified that it is a niche product 124 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:09.609 and by pushing the price up a little bit higher, 125 00:05:09.609 --> 00:05:12.078 they might lose out on a little adoption, 126 00:05:12.078 --> 00:05:13.713 but they're not really going to 127 00:05:15.214 --> 00:05:17.016 drastically move the needle. 128 00:05:17.016 --> 00:05:20.353 It's going to be like probably WiiU numbers again is my guess. 129 00:05:21.020 --> 00:05:24.691 I think that they're gearing it up for a price drop. 130 00:05:26.225 --> 00:05:29.195 This is more speculative, so I don't want to put in the video. 131 00:05:29.195 --> 00:05:32.532 My feeling is there is a PS5 and PS4 132 00:05:32.732 --> 00:05:35.535 Pro price drop that's built into these prices 133 00:05:35.535 --> 00:05:38.438 and that we are due for a price drop. 134 00:05:38.438 --> 00:05:40.173 But they don't need to play that card yet. 135 00:05:40.173 --> 00:05:41.374 They're waiting till 136 00:05:41.374 --> 00:05:42.842 you know they're on the backfoot a little bit. 137 00:05:42.842 --> 00:05:44.577 Microsoft releases something really cool 138 00:05:44.577 --> 00:05:46.813 and they have to sell some PS5 or the Switch 2 comes out 139 00:05:46.813 --> 00:05:50.283 and they’re like ”Alright it’s time, we need a little PS5 steam” $50 price drop. 140 00:05:50.283 --> 00:05:51.584 That's my guess. 141 00:05:51.584 --> 00:05:54.320 Guess speculation 142 00:05:54.320 --> 00:05:56.923 and that comes back to yeah, I am possibly 143 00:05:56.923 --> 00:05:58.057 going to buy a PS5 Pro. 144 00:05:58.057 --> 00:05:59.559 It's a little bit disappointing in Canada. 145 00:05:59.559 --> 00:06:00.893 If I wanted the disc drive in the stand, 146 00:06:00.893 --> 00:06:03.896 you know, it's like 12 1300 dollars of my money 147 00:06:04.497 --> 00:06:07.500 literally rent for a lot of people. 148 00:06:07.567 --> 00:06:10.903 And I still all want it. 149 00:06:10.903 --> 00:06:14.674 I have love the PS5 games, both Final Fantasy that came out 150 00:06:14.741 --> 00:06:16.976 over the last six months or whatever 151 00:06:16.976 --> 00:06:20.113 are some of my favorite console experiences of the last decade 152 00:06:21.280 --> 00:06:22.382 totally blew me away. 153 00:06:22.382 --> 00:06:26.285 I haven't cried as hard with a piece of media ever like 154 00:06:26.285 --> 00:06:29.922 I did with Final Fantasy 16 10/10 for me, 155 00:06:29.922 --> 00:06:31.858 it is exactly the kind of game I want to play. 156 00:06:31.858 --> 00:06:33.993 Same with Final Fantasy Seven 157 00:06:33.993 --> 00:06:38.197 and I want to play those games in the highest possible fidelity. 158 00:06:38.197 --> 00:06:39.732 Yes, they will come to PC. 159 00:06:39.732 --> 00:06:40.933 Everything is coming to PC 160 00:06:40.933 --> 00:06:43.102 and that's another point that I'm kind of curious about. 161 00:06:43.102 --> 00:06:45.738 People say the include, myself included, the PS5 162 00:06:45.738 --> 00:06:46.973 doesn't have any exclusive, 163 00:06:46.973 --> 00:06:49.509 and that's because most of the games are on PS4, 164 00:06:49.509 --> 00:06:52.145 which kind of is a bummer if it's, you know, 165 00:06:52.145 --> 00:06:54.380 sandbagging the games that are coming on the PS5. 166 00:06:54.380 --> 00:06:58.017 But also they aren't exclusive because they're on PC 167 00:06:58.050 --> 00:06:59.051 and that's a good thing. 168 00:06:59.051 --> 00:07:02.955 And so having the games on PC, is that a negative for the PS5? 169 00:07:02.955 --> 00:07:05.758 I'm genuinely curious what you think because to me 170 00:07:05.758 --> 00:07:08.528 it's a good thing that they're available on PC. 171 00:07:08.528 --> 00:07:09.195 And so to 172 00:07:09.195 --> 00:07:13.766 then hold the PC that against the PS5 is a little disingenuous. 173 00:07:13.766 --> 00:07:17.103 I get it because in the sense of you 174 00:07:17.103 --> 00:07:19.105 don't need to own a PS5 to play those games. 175 00:07:19.105 --> 00:07:20.907 That's 100% true. 176 00:07:20.907 --> 00:07:22.975 And you don't need a PS5 Pro. 177 00:07:22.975 --> 00:07:24.710 Honestly, I don't need a PS5 Pro. 178 00:07:24.710 --> 00:07:27.814 If I had to choose one a $1,000 PC 179 00:07:27.814 --> 00:07:31.050 or $1,000 console, you bet your f***ing ass. 180 00:07:31.484 --> 00:07:32.685 Sorry Sammy, that’s extra work 181 00:07:33.686 --> 00:07:36.589 I would choose a PC like there's no ifs ands or 182 00:07:36.589 --> 00:07:39.959 but when I play multi-platform games I'm always playing on PC. 183 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:42.695 There's no reason to play them on the on the PlayStation. 184 00:07:42.695 --> 00:07:45.765 But there is games that I do like playing on my PS5 185 00:07:45.765 --> 00:07:48.534 a lot of them are Sony First Party or, 186 00:07:48.534 --> 00:07:50.503 you know, these exclusives that are coming to a console 187 00:07:50.503 --> 00:07:53.039 that has such a bigger adoption rate 188 00:07:53.039 --> 00:07:55.975 and that's essentially my rant. 189 00:07:55.975 --> 00:07:57.944 PS5 Pro too expensive. 190 00:07:57.944 --> 00:07:59.245 You don't need it. 191 00:07:59.245 --> 00:08:00.980 Nobody needs it if you want it. 192 00:08:00.980 --> 00:08:03.316 If you have the disposable income, you're so lucky. 193 00:08:03.316 --> 00:08:04.116 I'm really lucky. 194 00:08:04.116 --> 00:08:05.251 I just sold all my stuff. 195 00:08:05.251 --> 00:08:06.419 So I have a little bit of fun money 196 00:08:06.419 --> 00:08:08.955 to play with on stuff that I don't really need. 197 00:08:08.955 --> 00:08:09.722 And some of the money 198 00:08:09.722 --> 00:08:12.925 from that sale from the previous video is going to be going 199 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:13.826 towards that. 200 00:08:13.826 --> 00:08:15.027 So it softens the blow. 201 00:08:15.027 --> 00:08:16.529 I don't know if I would have spent 202 00:08:16.529 --> 00:08:19.799 1200 dollars or whatever, 1100 bucks without the disc drive 203 00:08:20.333 --> 00:08:22.735 without that, because that's a lot of money 204 00:08:22.735 --> 00:08:24.704 and like I said, I was expecting $600, 205 00:08:24.704 --> 00:08:28.608 so probably 8 - $900 Canadian. But 206 00:08:29.709 --> 00:08:32.345 I do think that 207 00:08:32.345 --> 00:08:33.212 the big 208 00:08:33.212 --> 00:08:36.215 problem the showcase is the games they showed weren't great. 209 00:08:36.782 --> 00:08:39.852 They were already fantastic looking games and so on. 210 00:08:39.852 --> 00:08:41.454 Sony’s done a really good job getting a lot 211 00:08:41.454 --> 00:08:44.624 out of the PS4, PS4 Pro and the PS5 212 00:08:45.191 --> 00:08:48.361 And so to then be like, look at the foliage in the back, 213 00:08:48.361 --> 00:08:50.563 it's a little bit sharper. It doesn't really work well. 214 00:08:50.563 --> 00:08:52.965 I think the PS5 Pro will shine 215 00:08:52.965 --> 00:08:55.434 is actually in those multi-platform games 216 00:08:55.434 --> 00:08:56.802 where the optimization 217 00:08:56.802 --> 00:08:58.604 isn't optimal or they weren't designed 218 00:08:58.604 --> 00:08:59.705 around this specific hardware. 219 00:08:59.705 --> 00:09:00.740 So they, 220 00:09:00.740 --> 00:09:03.876 they struggle a little bit and I think that the PS5 Pro will be 221 00:09:03.876 --> 00:09:06.879 a great way to play those games if you don't have a PC. 222 00:09:07.280 --> 00:09:10.082 I still think a PC is a better way to play it, but 223 00:09:10.082 --> 00:09:11.951 if you're a hardcore PS5 gamer, 224 00:09:11.951 --> 00:09:13.819 I think in that sense it would be worth the upgrade. 225 00:09:13.819 --> 00:09:16.455 If you play all your games on a PS5 226 00:09:16.455 --> 00:09:19.959 the multi-platform games, my guess will be the biggest uplift 227 00:09:20.326 --> 00:09:22.094 in that sense. I'm very excited. 228 00:09:22.094 --> 00:09:23.462 Are you getting a PS5 Pro? 229 00:09:23.462 --> 00:09:25.131 I know a lot of you aren't. 230 00:09:25.131 --> 00:09:26.899 Do you have a PS5? What do you think? 231 00:09:26.899 --> 00:09:29.068 Do you think that our take was too light on Sony? 232 00:09:30.169 --> 00:09:32.772 Do you think we were pretty balanced? 233 00:09:32.772 --> 00:09:35.007 What do you think am I stupid? 234 00:09:35.007 --> 00:09:37.143 Yeah. Yeah, I know I am. Okay. 235 00:09:37.143 --> 00:09:37.677 Thanks for watching 236 00:09:37.677 --> 00:09:39.345 Why don’t you check out another Floatplane Exclusive","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"Am I buying a PS5 Pro? Yes. 2 00:00:02.836 --> 00:00:07.240 Here are the reasons why I've enjoyed so many games on my PS5. 3 00:00:07.474 --> 00:00:09.642 Some of my favorite games of all time 4 00:00:09.642 --> 00:00:10.577 have come out on the PS5. 5 00:00:10.577 --> 00:00:12.512 Final Fantasy 16. 6 00:00:12.512 --> 00:00:14.080 Yeah, it's coming on PC, 7 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:16.149 but I've already beaten it twice on PS5 8 00:00:16.149 --> 00:00:17.817 and I'm going to play it again on PC. 9 00:00:17.817 --> 00:00:18.718 That's why I like this machine. 10 00:00:18.718 --> 00:00:21.287 It's a great place to experience these games 11 00:00:21.287 --> 00:00:23.823 without really worrying about making sure they're working 12 00:00:23.823 --> 00:00:24.991 right, making sure I'm getting 13 00:00:24.991 --> 00:00:28.995 the best optimization and just go and I play and it's so easy. 14 00:00:28.995 --> 00:00:30.597 It's so quick. That's a big one. 15 00:00:30.597 --> 00:00:33.033 I just sit down, hit one button within 10 seconds, 16 00:00:33.033 --> 00:00:34.801 everything's turned on, everything sync. 17 00:00:34.801 --> 00:00:37.170 It's just easy. You don't have to think about it. 18 00:00:37.170 --> 00:00:39.806 So I'm a big fan for turning off my brain 19 00:00:39.806 --> 00:00:42.142 when I go home playing console games for that reason. 20 00:00:42.142 --> 00:00:45.011 Another big reason that I'm getting the PS5 Pro. 21 00:00:45.011 --> 00:00:48.548 I'm going to keep my regular PS5 because my partner has 22 00:00:48.548 --> 00:00:49.616 basically co-opted it. 23 00:00:49.616 --> 00:00:51.418 She's playing a ton of games now 24 00:00:51.418 --> 00:00:54.387 and console games are so much easier to share 25 00:00:54.387 --> 00:00:57.957 with people that don't want to fussy dussy 26 00:00:58.158 --> 00:01:01.961 with PCs when you play PCs, you have to know turning on 27 00:01:01.961 --> 00:01:03.930 and off is more of an ordeal than a console. 28 00:01:03.930 --> 00:01:07.200 It's super automatic, super easy going on a on a console, even 29 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:10.236 just like loading it to Steam I had to explain that to her 30 00:01:10.970 --> 00:01:13.973 and kind of give her a tutorial on how to use Steam and stuff. 31 00:01:14.808 --> 00:01:15.909 Whereas a console is 32 00:01:15.909 --> 00:01:16.709 its all right there, it’s 33 00:01:16.709 --> 00:01:17.343 super easy. And 34 00:01:17.343 --> 00:01:20.346 so I like the console experience for being able to share it. 35 00:01:20.580 --> 00:01:23.950 And so now specifically I'm getting the PS5 Pro. 36 00:01:24.417 --> 00:01:27.454 I have been wanting to get two PS5 37 00:01:27.454 --> 00:01:30.023 and I know this is a very much a first world problem. 38 00:01:30.023 --> 00:01:33.193 And what I was doing was I have our living room upstairs 39 00:01:33.193 --> 00:01:35.195 and I have my game cave in the basement 40 00:01:36.229 --> 00:01:38.131 and I've wall mounted my PS5 upstairs 41 00:01:38.131 --> 00:01:40.033 so my partner can basically use that one full time. 42 00:01:40.033 --> 00:01:41.868 That's her PS5 and she's doing that. 43 00:01:41.868 --> 00:01:44.404 And so I've been waiting to get my own PS5 44 00:01:44.404 --> 00:01:46.940 and I was going to buy just like a slim or whatever and do that. 45 00:01:46.940 --> 00:01:49.075 But PS5 Pro on the Horizon make sense. 46 00:01:49.075 --> 00:01:51.077 Just wait to see what it was. 47 00:01:51.077 --> 00:01:52.745 And so I've been waiting for months. 48 00:01:52.745 --> 00:01:55.748 I've been saving my like 50 bucks every two weeks, 49 00:01:55.748 --> 00:01:58.384 putting it into a little account for my PS5 Pro Was 50 00:01:58.384 --> 00:02:02.522 I expecting it to be $600, not $700? 1,000,000,000% 51 00:02:02.922 --> 00:02:05.024 Am I disappointed that have to pay an extra 100 bucks? 52 00:02:05.024 --> 00:02:06.059 Hell yeah. 53 00:02:06.059 --> 00:02:10.897 But not including the stand to me is an overblown issue. 54 00:02:11.331 --> 00:02:14.334 What consoles have come with stands 55 00:02:14.968 --> 00:02:17.237 name a PlayStation console that came with the stand 56 00:02:17.237 --> 00:02:18.171 before the PS5. 57 00:02:19.772 --> 00:02:20.406 They didn't. 58 00:02:20.406 --> 00:02:22.208 It's always been a separate thing. 59 00:02:22.208 --> 00:02:24.043 And so this idea that the stand is 60 00:02:24.043 --> 00:02:27.113 extra is absolutely insane, especially when the PS5 does 61 00:02:27.113 --> 00:02:30.416 stand up pretty good on its own without the stand. 62 00:02:30.850 --> 00:02:32.118 And so I feel like people are 63 00:02:32.118 --> 00:02:34.154 jumping on this hate bandwagon because the prices are 64 00:02:34.154 --> 00:02:35.522 so exorbitant 65 00:02:35.522 --> 00:02:39.058 and trying to focus on these semi cogent points 66 00:02:39.058 --> 00:02:40.126 and kind of bandwagoning 67 00:02:40.126 --> 00:02:41.828 on things that I don't think really matter. 68 00:02:41.828 --> 00:02:44.831 Same with the disk drive. 69 00:02:45.932 --> 00:02:47.767 A lot of you watching this are PC gamers. 70 00:02:47.767 --> 00:02:49.802 When was the last time you had a disc drive in your PC? 71 00:02:49.802 --> 00:02:51.171 When was the last time that was an issue? 72 00:02:51.171 --> 00:02:54.440 We live in a different era and I am a fan of physical media, 73 00:02:55.108 --> 00:02:57.377 but it's different than 74 00:02:57.377 --> 00:02:59.579 it used to be and it's different than movies. 75 00:02:59.579 --> 00:03:01.814 We made that movie recently about- that video... 76 00:03:01.814 --> 00:03:04.751 that video, recently about why you should have physical 77 00:03:04.751 --> 00:03:07.754 Blu rays, and that's because that disc 78 00:03:07.921 --> 00:03:09.489 is the final version of that movie. 79 00:03:09.489 --> 00:03:11.658 You're getting everything you need on that disc, 80 00:03:11.658 --> 00:03:13.159 and if you rip it, you're getting exactly 81 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:14.928 the same experience with or without it. 82 00:03:14.928 --> 00:03:18.264 Whereas physical games, it's basically just a f***ing 83 00:03:18.264 --> 00:03:19.532 license key 84 00:03:19.532 --> 00:03:21.434 and you put it in your console and you have to 85 00:03:21.434 --> 00:03:22.569 install it to your hard drive 86 00:03:22.569 --> 00:03:24.204 because it can't be read fast enough. 87 00:03:24.204 --> 00:03:26.306 Or, or even worse, there's 88 00:03:26.306 --> 00:03:29.309 almost nothing on the disc and it just downloads it anyway. 89 00:03:29.876 --> 00:03:32.912 And so this idea that physical media 90 00:03:33.146 --> 00:03:36.082 needs to be preserved is beautiful, but we lost. 91 00:03:36.082 --> 00:03:37.016 It's already over. 92 00:03:37.016 --> 00:03:42.121 And I don't think pretending like consoles need a disc drive 93 00:03:42.121 --> 00:03:45.592 now is the right place to fight. 94 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:48.194 And you guys know me. 95 00:03:48.194 --> 00:03:49.195 I'm a big retro gamer. 96 00:03:49.195 --> 00:03:50.830 I have physical games 97 00:03:50.830 --> 00:03:52.665 going back all the way to, 98 00:03:52.665 --> 00:03:54.067 I guess less long, less long now. 99 00:03:54.067 --> 00:03:57.403 But I used to have stuff going all the way to the Atari 2600. 100 00:03:58.071 --> 00:04:02.642 And I think that saying that the PS5 Pro 101 00:04:03.543 --> 00:04:06.246 needs a disc drive or to be comparable to a PS3, 102 00:04:06.246 --> 00:04:08.081 which was a big argument, I saw that 103 00:04:08.081 --> 00:04:09.882 it's not comparable to the PS3 because it doesn't come 104 00:04:09.882 --> 00:04:13.453 with a disc drive or a stand that the PS3 did not come with... 105 00:04:14.420 --> 00:04:17.323 is a little unfair because they're different. 106 00:04:17.323 --> 00:04:20.360 The PS3 didn't come with a two terabyte SSD came 107 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:23.830 with the price more comparable with a 20 Gigabyte hard drive. 108 00:04:23.830 --> 00:04:26.833 So like it's not ever going to be apples to apples. 109 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:27.934 And I think that 110 00:04:28.901 --> 00:04:31.904 my overall sentiment, it's $100 too expensive. 111 00:04:32.171 --> 00:04:35.575 I wish that they were undercutting the cost by 112 00:04:36.876 --> 00:04:40.246 taking a little bit of a loss, but they don't need to. 113 00:04:40.246 --> 00:04:42.148 It's a niche product. 114 00:04:42.148 --> 00:04:43.349 And what I found out 115 00:04:43.349 --> 00:04:46.219 after the video was written, the PS4 Pro 116 00:04:46.219 --> 00:04:50.023 sold apparently WiiU numbers and that's lower than I expected. 117 00:04:50.023 --> 00:04:52.058 Obviously the Wii U wasn't a huge success 118 00:04:52.058 --> 00:04:55.261 when you put it in the context of the PS4 family as an addition. 119 00:04:55.962 --> 00:04:56.496 It's like that. 120 00:04:56.496 --> 00:04:57.297 That's pretty good. 121 00:04:57.297 --> 00:05:00.500 You know, 13 to 15 million or whatever isn't bad 122 00:05:00.500 --> 00:05:03.870 when you're adding it to 90 other million consoles sold. 123 00:05:04.170 --> 00:05:07.240 But I think Sony identified that it is a niche product 124 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:09.609 and by pushing the price up a little bit higher, 125 00:05:09.609 --> 00:05:12.078 they might lose out on a little adoption, 126 00:05:12.078 --> 00:05:13.713 but they're not really going to 127 00:05:15.214 --> 00:05:17.016 drastically move the needle. 128 00:05:17.016 --> 00:05:20.353 It's going to be like probably WiiU numbers again is my guess. 129 00:05:21.020 --> 00:05:24.691 I think that they're gearing it up for a price drop. 130 00:05:26.225 --> 00:05:29.195 This is more speculative, so I don't want to put in the video. 131 00:05:29.195 --> 00:05:32.532 My feeling is there is a PS5 and PS4 132 00:05:32.732 --> 00:05:35.535 Pro price drop that's built into these prices 133 00:05:35.535 --> 00:05:38.438 and that we are due for a price drop. 134 00:05:38.438 --> 00:05:40.173 But they don't need to play that card yet. 135 00:05:40.173 --> 00:05:41.374 They're waiting till 136 00:05:41.374 --> 00:05:42.842 you know they're on the backfoot a little bit. 137 00:05:42.842 --> 00:05:44.577 Microsoft releases something really cool 138 00:05:44.577 --> 00:05:46.813 and they have to sell some PS5 or the Switch 2 comes out 139 00:05:46.813 --> 00:05:50.283 and they’re like ”Alright it’s time, we need a little PS5 steam” $50 price drop. 140 00:05:50.283 --> 00:05:51.584 That's my guess. 141 00:05:51.584 --> 00:05:54.320 Guess speculation 142 00:05:54.320 --> 00:05:56.923 and that comes back to yeah, I am possibly 143 00:05:56.923 --> 00:05:58.057 going to buy a PS5 Pro. 144 00:05:58.057 --> 00:05:59.559 It's a little bit disappointing in Canada. 145 00:05:59.559 --> 00:06:00.893 If I wanted the disc drive in the stand, 146 00:06:00.893 --> 00:06:03.896 you know, it's like 12 1300 dollars of my money 147 00:06:04.497 --> 00:06:07.500 literally rent for a lot of people. 148 00:06:07.567 --> 00:06:10.903 And I still all want it. 149 00:06:10.903 --> 00:06:14.674 I have love the PS5 games, both Final Fantasy that came out 150 00:06:14.741 --> 00:06:16.976 over the last six months or whatever 151 00:06:16.976 --> 00:06:20.113 are some of my favorite console experiences of the last decade 152 00:06:21.280 --> 00:06:22.382 totally blew me away. 153 00:06:22.382 --> 00:06:26.285 I haven't cried as hard with a piece of media ever like 154 00:06:26.285 --> 00:06:29.922 I did with Final Fantasy 16 10/10 for me, 155 00:06:29.922 --> 00:06:31.858 it is exactly the kind of game I want to play. 156 00:06:31.858 --> 00:06:33.993 Same with Final Fantasy Seven 157 00:06:33.993 --> 00:06:38.197 and I want to play those games in the highest possible fidelity. 158 00:06:38.197 --> 00:06:39.732 Yes, they will come to PC. 159 00:06:39.732 --> 00:06:40.933 Everything is coming to PC 160 00:06:40.933 --> 00:06:43.102 and that's another point that I'm kind of curious about. 161 00:06:43.102 --> 00:06:45.738 People say the include, myself included, the PS5 162 00:06:45.738 --> 00:06:46.973 doesn't have any exclusive, 163 00:06:46.973 --> 00:06:49.509 and that's because most of the games are on PS4, 164 00:06:49.509 --> 00:06:52.145 which kind of is a bummer if it's, you know, 165 00:06:52.145 --> 00:06:54.380 sandbagging the games that are coming on the PS5. 166 00:06:54.380 --> 00:06:58.017 But also they aren't exclusive because they're on PC 167 00:06:58.050 --> 00:06:59.051 and that's a good thing. 168 00:06:59.051 --> 00:07:02.955 And so having the games on PC, is that a negative for the PS5? 169 00:07:02.955 --> 00:07:05.758 I'm genuinely curious what you think because to me 170 00:07:05.758 --> 00:07:08.528 it's a good thing that they're available on PC. 171 00:07:08.528 --> 00:07:09.195 And so to 172 00:07:09.195 --> 00:07:13.766 then hold the PC that against the PS5 is a little disingenuous. 173 00:07:13.766 --> 00:07:17.103 I get it because in the sense of you 174 00:07:17.103 --> 00:07:19.105 don't need to own a PS5 to play those games. 175 00:07:19.105 --> 00:07:20.907 That's 100% true. 176 00:07:20.907 --> 00:07:22.975 And you don't need a PS5 Pro. 177 00:07:22.975 --> 00:07:24.710 Honestly, I don't need a PS5 Pro. 178 00:07:24.710 --> 00:07:27.814 If I had to choose one a $1,000 PC 179 00:07:27.814 --> 00:07:31.050 or $1,000 console, you bet your f***ing ass. 180 00:07:31.484 --> 00:07:32.685 Sorry Sammy, that’s extra work 181 00:07:33.686 --> 00:07:36.589 I would choose a PC like there's no ifs ands or 182 00:07:36.589 --> 00:07:39.959 but when I play multi-platform games I'm always playing on PC. 183 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:42.695 There's no reason to play them on the on the PlayStation. 184 00:07:42.695 --> 00:07:45.765 But there is games that I do like playing on my PS5 185 00:07:45.765 --> 00:07:48.534 a lot of them are Sony First Party or, 186 00:07:48.534 --> 00:07:50.503 you know, these exclusives that are coming to a console 187 00:07:50.503 --> 00:07:53.039 that has such a bigger adoption rate 188 00:07:53.039 --> 00:07:55.975 and that's essentially my rant. 189 00:07:55.975 --> 00:07:57.944 PS5 Pro too expensive. 190 00:07:57.944 --> 00:07:59.245 You don't need it. 191 00:07:59.245 --> 00:08:00.980 Nobody needs it if you want it. 192 00:08:00.980 --> 00:08:03.316 If you have the disposable income, you're so lucky. 193 00:08:03.316 --> 00:08:04.116 I'm really lucky. 194 00:08:04.116 --> 00:08:05.251 I just sold all my stuff. 195 00:08:05.251 --> 00:08:06.419 So I have a little bit of fun money 196 00:08:06.419 --> 00:08:08.955 to play with on stuff that I don't really need. 197 00:08:08.955 --> 00:08:09.722 And some of the money 198 00:08:09.722 --> 00:08:12.925 from that sale from the previous video is going to be going 199 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:13.826 towards that. 200 00:08:13.826 --> 00:08:15.027 So it softens the blow. 201 00:08:15.027 --> 00:08:16.529 I don't know if I would have spent 202 00:08:16.529 --> 00:08:19.799 1200 dollars or whatever, 1100 bucks without the disc drive 203 00:08:20.333 --> 00:08:22.735 without that, because that's a lot of money 204 00:08:22.735 --> 00:08:24.704 and like I said, I was expecting $600, 205 00:08:24.704 --> 00:08:28.608 so probably 8 - $900 Canadian. But 206 00:08:29.709 --> 00:08:32.345 I do think that 207 00:08:32.345 --> 00:08:33.212 the big 208 00:08:33.212 --> 00:08:36.215 problem the showcase is the games they showed weren't great. 209 00:08:36.782 --> 00:08:39.852 They were already fantastic looking games and so on. 210 00:08:39.852 --> 00:08:41.454 Sony’s done a really good job getting a lot 211 00:08:41.454 --> 00:08:44.624 out of the PS4, PS4 Pro and the PS5 212 00:08:45.191 --> 00:08:48.361 And so to then be like, look at the foliage in the back, 213 00:08:48.361 --> 00:08:50.563 it's a little bit sharper. It doesn't really work well. 214 00:08:50.563 --> 00:08:52.965 I think the PS5 Pro will shine 215 00:08:52.965 --> 00:08:55.434 is actually in those multi-platform games 216 00:08:55.434 --> 00:08:56.802 where the optimization 217 00:08:56.802 --> 00:08:58.604 isn't optimal or they weren't designed 218 00:08:58.604 --> 00:08:59.705 around this specific hardware. 219 00:08:59.705 --> 00:09:00.740 So they, 220 00:09:00.740 --> 00:09:03.876 they struggle a little bit and I think that the PS5 Pro will be 221 00:09:03.876 --> 00:09:06.879 a great way to play those games if you don't have a PC. 222 00:09:07.280 --> 00:09:10.082 I still think a PC is a better way to play it, but 223 00:09:10.082 --> 00:09:11.951 if you're a hardcore PS5 gamer, 224 00:09:11.951 --> 00:09:13.819 I think in that sense it would be worth the upgrade. 225 00:09:13.819 --> 00:09:16.455 If you play all your games on a PS5 226 00:09:16.455 --> 00:09:19.959 the multi-platform games, my guess will be the biggest uplift 227 00:09:20.326 --> 00:09:22.094 in that sense. I'm very excited. 228 00:09:22.094 --> 00:09:23.462 Are you getting a PS5 Pro? 229 00:09:23.462 --> 00:09:25.131 I know a lot of you aren't. 230 00:09:25.131 --> 00:09:26.899 Do you have a PS5? What do you think? 231 00:09:26.899 --> 00:09:29.068 Do you think that our take was too light on Sony? 232 00:09:30.169 --> 00:09:32.772 Do you think we were pretty balanced? 233 00:09:32.772 --> 00:09:35.007 What do you think am I stupid? 234 00:09:35.007 --> 00:09:37.143 Yeah. Yeah, I know I am. Okay. 235 00:09:37.143 --> 00:09:37.677 Thanks for watching 236 00:09:37.677 --> 00:09:39.345 Why don’t you check out another Floatplane Exclusive"}