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Time to preach out.

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Are we live? Dan, am I supposed to be able to hear you through my headphones?

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I'm in the background. Oh.

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I see. I got one here. Oh.

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Yeah, that's way better. A little hot though.

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Yep.

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Also, it sounds like old timey walkie-talkie.

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Yes.

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That might just be what it is though. Roger, Roger.

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No, like really though, it sounds very. I just got pushed to talk.

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Nice. Oh, is that being picked up?

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Is what being picked up? Should we tell them?

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Picked up your face. People in the background.

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It's not too bad.

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Better level on this one? I'm not worried about it for the show.

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I want to make sure that they're aware.

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Yeah, there's a sign on the door. All right.

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Joe, you want me to tell them we're live now?

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I know we're live.

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Hey, Luke. Yeah, what's up?

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I have a question for you. Yeah. Just to like totally trip people up.

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Should your laptop count a bit more?

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Yeah, the other way.

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Beautiful. Sorry, my feet on this is very delayed.

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Beautiful. Nice. Yeah, that works.

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Frickin' hilarious.

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I love it, I've heard. Should we ditch this?

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Yeah, I probably will. Give me one sec.

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Yeah, what is that? What is that? Oh, we didn't need that?

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No. See, I get that out of there.

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That's hilarious. I thought it was necessary. I thought it was part of the ARM or something.

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I didn't look that close. No.

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He didn't just hang it, right? Like it's... Okay.

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Can we... It's fine.

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I got it. No, I don't want it.

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Can we...

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Can we say where we are? I don't know.

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I don't think we're live. You don't think so?

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Why did my laptop just go to sleep?

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Why am I getting blue? Huh?

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Yeah, buddy, the Linus tapes, the Linus files.

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Linus didn't kill himself.

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Linus would never... Just talking to chat.

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I love myself far too much.

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Yeah. I don't have the button.

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Yeah, yeah, you have to... There you go. I got you, fam.

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Thanks. Thank you.

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Dude, I did my narcissism test this week.

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Wait, is that on float plate? Will be.

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Is it gonna be on float plate?

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I'm gonna spoil it a little bit.

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I have more narcissistic tendencies than the average person.

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What? No.

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What? That's crazy.

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It's not crazy. It's NPD. Okay.

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We don't like the term crazy.

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That didn't mean it that way.

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Can I not hear myself?

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Because it's a little bit speech jamming.

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You shouldn't be able to hear yourself. Oh, I definitely do.

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Guys, NPD is Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

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Talk. And anyone is on like a spectrum of narcissistic personality traits.

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Yes. But being above the 50th percentile does not make you disordered.

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I don't think there's like a firm threshold for what makes you disordered.

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Like so many things that I think a disorder basically occurs when it starts to have a

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negative impact on the life of you and the people around you.

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But I've talked multiple times in the past about how I think there is a pre...

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Either a predisposition or I think there is a feedback loop that is activated when people

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achieve any kind of fame or notoriety or influence.

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And I think that if you were to sample a population of influencers, you would in general get people

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who score above average.

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I think people think that I'm like almost the opposite.

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Not even a little. For whatever reason. And that's definitely not true.

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It's one of those things when like people in the audience will be like, we know you.

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Blah, blah, blah. I'm like, eh. It's kind of amazing the two of us get along.

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How similar we are. Yeah, to be honest.

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Yeah, it works.

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Okay.

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Dude, it's industry day down here at the sauce of open.

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So it's not like the actual full convention hasn't even started yet.

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I have already seen multiple LTT bags.

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Nice. Make an appearance. Nice.

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There was also an exhibitor setting up a booth who had one of the screwdrivers.

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Nice.

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Why did they only have one? That's what you should have asked them.

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My goodness. I only saw one. Put your laptop down more.

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Oh. Yeah, you're right.

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I get a little bit of glare when I do that.

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There's someone sitting with you, right?

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Do any of the people who are there have potato chips? How funny would it be if I gave you a potato chip?

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Someone suggested it in the chat.

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I don't know if we could pull it off. We're trying. I wouldn't bother to go buy chips over it, but I just thought it was kind of funny.

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We're trying. Dan is hunting. Okay.

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No, he's probably putting too much effort into it already.

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Probably. I think he liked it too much. So he's like literally already gone.

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Plastic Dan. If nothing else, we could do a fry and it could just like morph.

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And that could be kind of funny. Nice. I like it.

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Yeah. Someone Dan back will do a French fry. Dan.

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I don't know where Dan went to get potato chips probably.

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Or Chris says he would come for Dan. Yeah, go look.

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We have someone hunting for Dan.

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Why is this on supervised? Yeah. Is it going to be weird to do when totally alone but on the studio set?

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I don't think it'll be that weird. No, because I usually don't look at you.

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I noticed this behavior a little while ago. I look at you on the screen to the side of the camera.

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So I'm almost never actually like looking into the camera or looking at you.

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And then Dan is covered by his monitor. So like honestly, it does not feel different.

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So I knew that actually, but I didn't know that it just wouldn't feel different.

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That's kind of funny.

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See the classic narcissism. You probably do that because you can see yourself on the screen as well.

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Or classic. I am on camera. Okay.

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Wait, we actually got it. Okay. So should we test this?

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Should we try this? Wait, what are these?

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Spicy Cajun crotaters?

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Do you want to try to hand me one of these?

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Sure. The problem is going to be the timing because it's not perfectly real.

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Well, if I go slow. Here.

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Other side.

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Yes. Okay. Yeah.

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I'll take off my watch. Does whoever's there have a watch?

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Do we? Does anyone maybe borrow Dan's watch?

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No, I can just take mine off. It doesn't matter. Okay.

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Take your watch off. Okay.

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And then how are we going to do the timing?

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Can you queue them in? Yeah.

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With fingers? Probably not.

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Queue them in with fingers.

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Oh, yeah. There we go. Where's the start?

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Okay. Wait. Okay.

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Ready? Hold on. Wow.

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What the heck? You have to be like right in front of my face.

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Okay. It has to come more from the side.

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It has to come more from the side. Yeah.

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Because right now it's kind of coming towards the front. Yeah, exactly.

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Okay. So I'll have to go like at this kind of angle. So wait.

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Too close. Too close. Okay.

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Here we go.

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That's going to be like impossible the time.

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Luke, do you want to hear you? Yeah.

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That'd be great. Here you go.

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Good. Good.

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No.

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Okay. So because of the angle that his hand has to come in, I think

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you need to kind of like derpy ARM it a little bit. You were going like actually to where I would be sitting.

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You need to like pretend I'm actually right beside you.

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Like not not very far away.

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Here, let's try it again.

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Yeah. Because yeah, show your hand in a little bit.

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Like a little bit. Yeah, like there. Yeah.

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Oh, no, it's all the way. Okay. All right.

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Okay. So on one, everybody go on one.

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Three, two, one.

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You got to take the chip. Dude, the delay is enormous.

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Yeah. The delay is so long.

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I can take it right away. I was just, I was watching for the timing.

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The delay is kind of funny.

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So we could do it on a cue from our end.

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Yeah.

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Well, I'm going to offer to show you a chip and you'll be like,

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sure, and then I will reach over.

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Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah.

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No problem. Okay, sure. How far into the show are we going to do that?

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Intro. I'll do my two topics. You'll do your two topics.

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And I'll be like, oh, hey, before we roll the intro. I don't think you can hear, but we're going to do it in the intro.

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I see you don't have a snack. Would you like to, would you like a chip?

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You'll be like, okay. And I'll be like, here you go.

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And then right as I say, here you go, I'll reach. There you go.

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And then you'll take it. You should eat it out of his hand. That'd be way better.

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I could, I mean, I could do that. You know, you know your hand.

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Okay. Yeah. I thought you'd be fine with it.

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This one just broke. Sure.

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All right. Cool. This is what I signed up for.

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Oh, okay. We're going to do this thing.

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Let's do this thing. Make it more unhinged by having a bite into it and not eat it fully.

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They're just like, not even grab the whole thing.

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Oh, I just lost audio. Your headphones are on backwards.

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He wouldn't download a chip. We would Gigabyte 1024.

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Isn't the keyboard supposed to be on the left all the time?

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These are silly. Look, there's a red thing on the right side.

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So look right here. Got it.

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Why isn't the key one the left though? I didn't design it.

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I thought that was like a thing that everybody universally agreed was a good idea.

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No, yeah, I agree with you.

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Okay.

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One more practice? Yes, I do because I don't know what my level is.

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Okay. So Linus is going to ask, ask your thing Linus.

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Hello, hello. Oh, hey. Oh, you guys don't have any snacks.

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You don't have any snacks there. No.

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Did you remember to bring snacks? No, nothing. Oh, I got chips.

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Do you want one? Sure. Okay, here you go.

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And then I might just roll the intro right as you take the bite, actually.

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Then I don't have to pull my hand back.

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This is good because I can't hear anything.

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I'm just like, I think it's okay. It's happening.

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Don't worry. I'll drop the chip. I keep reusing the same one because it's my last big one left in the bag.

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These are like extremely crunchy. Did I get the level right there?

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Yeah, I think so. Right here? Yeah.

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That's where I'm going to come in. Okay.

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We doing this thing?

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I need to pick a couple of topics.

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See that?

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Yeah, you're still good.

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Okay, I'm just opening up the dashboard.

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I got two.

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All right, we're ready to do this thing?

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Oh, man.

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Now that I'm not signed into the YouTube dashboard on my WAN computer,

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I have to have my other one next to me.

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Okay. But...

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Sorry, just booting up.

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What camera is that? It seems acceptable.

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Nice.

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Oh, it's a Lumix. It's an S2. Awful camera.

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Parable.

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That's a Lumix one. Lumix S1H.

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There is... No, I don't think there's a disco ball in here.

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Shot what? Inside. BoBer or film?

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Extremely good.

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Are we almost ready? Let's do it.

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I'm pressing it. I'm resuming the selected.

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It's pressed.

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How are you doing, everybody, and welcome to the WAN Show.

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We've got a great show lined up for you today.

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A YouTuber is facing potential jail time for showing off emulated games,

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but I've shown off emulated games lots of times.

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Luke, am I going to jail?

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Maybe. No. Also, NVIDIA isn't the only one who figured out

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that they can manipulate the public perception of their products

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by altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further with reviewers.

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The new Superman movie has apparently been accused

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of manipulating critic scores on Rotten Tomatoes.

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We'll be talking about that because I think it kind of affects

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our ability to believe anything that we see from the media these days.

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What else we got going on? Grock is now a hot anime girl and definitely no longer Hitler.

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Also, Xbox Game Pass subscribers can stream their console games on PC now.

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Luke, are you OK? What do you mean?

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You seem hungry. I am hungry.

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I got snacks. Do you want a snack? Yeah, I'd love a snack.

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OK, here you go. Thanks.

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The show is brought to you today by Roeve Lab,

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Odu and AMD. Alongside, of course, our rap partner Dbrand,

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our laptop partner Dell, and our chair partner.

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Whatever that brown thing Luke is sitting on is.

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Just kidding, secret lab. I want to jump right into our headline topic today,

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which is, of course, the Italian YouTuber Francesco

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once were nerd, Salissini, whose home was raided

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by the Italian Economic Police. And around 30 consoles, mostly retro emulation handhelds,

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were confiscated. This is freaking kind of wild.

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Salissini is being accused of promoting pirated copyright materials

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after showing off emulated Sony and Nintendo games in his videos,

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something that a lot of creators, including us,

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have done numerous times over the years.

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Authorities are claiming that once were nerd

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is in violation of Article 171 in Italy's copyright law,

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a law that was apparently written in Get This.

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Actually, no. Oh, Luke, did you read it already? Yeah.

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You read it already. OK, Dan, guess what year this law was written?

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1905. You know what?

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You're honestly not off by more than half.

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1941, he's now facing a maximum sentence of 15,000 euro

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and Get This, three years in jail.

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I thought it was an or. Italian copyright enforcement is built different

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and has a history of strong ARM moves like having the country's internet regulator

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force Google to poison DNS to block illegal streams of soccer.

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The original complainant who brought forward the case

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will not be publicly known until the end of the initial investigation.

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But let's be real, we all know it's Nintendo,

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though for legal reasons, we must say that we are not sure.

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Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.

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Wow. So, man, is there ever a lot to unpack here

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because the line from my understanding and remember,

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the legality around emulation is not black and white

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and does vary according to the particular region

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and authority that you are subject to.

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So like, there's definitely parts of the world where

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we actually just shot a video last week

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reacting to Indian setups and Sam, who grew up in India,

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one of our thumbnail artists, oh, also editor,

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he was basically like, I mean, yeah, that was pretty much the reason that PlayStation was popular

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was because you could just get the games for like

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60 cents or something like that. I forget what the actual math worked out to,

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but I was looking at him going like, that's practically the raw cost of a blank CD.

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Like, what are we even talking about here? Like, you're not even essentially paying for the labor

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of someone to take the blank disk and put it in a thing and copy it.

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That's wild. And he's like, yeah, but that was basically what everybody did.

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So I'm not saying India's like that anymore. It might be.

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I legitimately don't know.

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But what I'm trying to illustrate is that depending on where you are,

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the enforcement and the laws around this stuff

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can be very different. So from a North American standpoint,

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as far as I've been able to tell,

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owning, like, possessing and using as a consumer,

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things like emulators and ROMs

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is generally regarded to be...

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but certainly not something that you would be

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fined or especially given prison time over.

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However, producing circumventing digital locks

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or distributing these copyrighted materials

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could be problematic if your profile gets raised high enough

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that somebody decides to go after you.

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The idea that you could just be sent

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like an emulation console from, you know,

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one of these Chinese companies that produces them,

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just show using it and go to jail for up to three years,

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what? That's a little ridiculous.

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Like, this is a nonviolent crime. Like, dude, there's...

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I hate to be that guy because, like,

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you know, it can be...

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but like, the 2008 financial crisis.

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Oh, yeah. Did anyone go to jail for any of that?

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I don't think so. We're talking about a pirated video game.

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I think, like, one guy went to jail for a short period of time.

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The what-what says yes. Yeah, one guy from Citadel.

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One dude, yeah. Exactly, right?

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So what are we even talking about? Like, I've never been to prison.

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Everything I know about it tells me

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that if your crime was playing a video game

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off of a ROM file, you probably don't belong there.

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Well, he also spent a 30-month sentence,

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so less time.

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Unflipping believable.

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Just goes to show you that it's not a question

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of how much damage has your crime done.

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It's a question of who you did it to.

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Okay, we have a few discussion questions here. Do you believe, mmm, this is a good one,

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do you believe that we have the right,

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as creators, to show off emulated games?

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Does that stance change if you do or don't own original copies of the game?

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So, no, I don't think that we necessarily

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have the right to show off emulated copies of games.

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However, what I will say is that

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I do consider, generally speaking,

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us showing content on devices

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that can play it back

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as being promotional in nature of that content.

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So, for a while there, I was getting a lot of pushback from some people internally

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about how we would play movies in our TV reviews, for instance.

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Like, I would put How to Train Your Dragon

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from DreamWorks, or I'd put Encanto

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on the TV in our reviews of a monitor

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of a TV or whatever the case may be, or projector.

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And they kind of went, hey, look,

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if Disney, you know, or DreamWorks,

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or one of these guys decided to come after us,

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like, that would be pretty scary. And my response there has been, okay, look,

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yeah, fair use is a defense.

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It's not a well-established set of guidelines

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for what you can and can't do.

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But if we were to look at this, A, I think we would have a very strong fair use defense.

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We are doing no harm to the original content.

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We are not acting as a replacement for the original content.

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If anything, we are promoting the original content.

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What we're doing is highly transformative. Nothing that we're doing in a review of a TV

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replaces in any way the plot of how to train your dragon.

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You know what I mean? I think that our fair use defense

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would be extremely strong, number one. And number two, they'd be crazy to come after us for it.

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Like, imagine being the guy at Disney that's like,

00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:10.000
yeah, these guys talked about how great this movie looks

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in HDR, and I'm mad.

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Like, so we're going to start a war

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with someone who is literally promoting our...

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And you know what's really crazy, though,

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is that kind of logic does exist.

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Like, I remember having a really stupid conversation

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with someone in the Intel booth one year at,

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I think it was CES, where they boasted on the little placard

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next to their upcoming platform that they could hit some number of FPS in some game.

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And I was like, guys, a bit of an oversight.

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The game on the system, that's a different game. Like, you guys know that, right?

00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.000
Embarrassing. And they're like, uh, yeah, we know.

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But those guys want us to pay, like, a huge licensing fee to show it.

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Now, that is a little different because in that case, Intel is clearly making commercial use of that software.

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However, I would argue that that kind of commercial use

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clearly benefits both parties, and it would be in the best interest of a game developer

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to have their game be a feature demo for, like, a hot new piece of hardware.

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This was back when Intel had products that people wanted.

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And so, you know, when it comes to commercial use, yeah, the rules do change a little bit,

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but in general, I see a clear benefit

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to having your content featured. With that said, there is clearly no commercial benefit

00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:46.000
to, say, Nintendo, not picking that name

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for any particular reason, but let's just say Nintendo,

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to having their older content that you can't even buy

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be showcased on a product that literally pirated it.

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So I do think that that defense falls apart a fair bit.

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With that said, I have made clear in the past

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that I feel that if I own a copy of a piece of content

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on one format that I literally will lose zero sleep

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over my believed right to take that format and enjoy it,

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that license to that content and enjoy it in any way that I want.

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If I own a Super Nintendo cartridge for Final Fantasy 6

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and I have that cartridge sitting on my shelf in my possession

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and I decide to download a ROM and play it on my Steam Deck

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or my RG Ally or whatever,

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I will sleep like a baby.

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I don't care. And where I end up in a bit of a grayer area

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is if I own, say, for instance, Final Fantasy Tactics was a game that I used multiple times

00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:04.000
to test older handhelds to see if they could handle PlayStation 1 emulation.

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It is a bit of a heavier game, especially when you get into some of the summoner effects

00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.000
and particles and everything.

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And if I really think about it now,

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I do own a disc. I own a license for the game.

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I consider it well within my right to play that game

00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:34.000
if I own a license for it. I have no desire to dust off my PlayStation 2

00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:38.000
and pop it in the disc. I know it's a PS1 game.

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I have a backwards compatible PlayStation 2. Relax.

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I have no desire to do that, so I'm just going to play it on whatever I want.

00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.000
You could have just said... But showing it on camera, I don't know.

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You don't even have to say the number. Yeah, but I don't have a PlayStation 1.

00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:56.000
I'm on the record as not having owned a PlayStation 1, so who knows. You could have just not said a number.

00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:59.000
I know, but I have a PlayStation 2. It's a Miotic.

00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:05.000
Look, what do you want from me? I'm not going to pull it out to play Final Fantasy Tactics.

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I'm going to just play the ISO. Sorry. I don't know.

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I'm just saying you didn't have to do the whole disclaimer if you just said PlayStation.

00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:15.000
So with everything I've said, do you think we have the right as creators

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to show off emulated games with or without

00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:22.000
owning a license, a copy of the game?

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What do you think?

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If you don't with or without, you're saying?

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Yeah. What do you think?

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Should we be allowed to show emulated games? We've done it.

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That we don't own? That we do. That we don't.

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Anything. Yeah, I mean, I'm generally in the defense

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of education is not a thing

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that should be stopped in most cases.

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I'm only saying most because normally I would say ever,

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but then I thought like cooking meth and stuff.

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That's probably not good.

00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:05.000
Generally, I don't like the black and white here.

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Generally, I would say if you if you own it, it's clearly above board.

00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:13.000
And if you don't own it,

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it's not something that I think I would want to go after

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somebody for, but I could understand there being a legal framework for that.

00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:24.000
And I think that would probably be fine. I mean, what if we applied this to like another form of art,

00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:30.000
right? Like let's say that let's let's bring it let's bring it home,

00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:35.000
right? Like let's say that it was a t-shirt design,

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you know, or let's say let's say like let's say that it was

00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:47.000
some other kind of intellectual property. If somebody's YouTube channel was basically showing off

00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:54.000
low cost clones of RIP and explaining to people how they

00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:58.000
can get our t-shirt design without paying for it.

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Would you think that's cool?

00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.000
I don't know if this makes a ton of sense,

00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:08.000
but no, I would not think that's cool. But if they showed it in a generic way,

00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.000
I would think that's cool. In a generic way.

00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:16.000
What do you mean? Like if you if you showed somebody like here is,

00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:20.000
you know, here's the process. You have this graphic on your computer.

00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:25.000
You can look, you can scan.

00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:28.000
You can scan some graphics somehow.

00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:32.000
I don't know. You can take this picture that you have in some physical

00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.000
format or you can take this item that you have in a physical format.

00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.000
You can scan it on a scanner and this is how you can get it onto a shirt.

00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:42.000
Awesome. But what if obviously that knowledge could be used to

00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.000
rip off one of our shirts, but that part doesn't bother me.

00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:50.000
I think it would only bother me if it was like, look, do this to this shirt and steal it.

00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:54.000
But then it's like, oh. But that's, I mean, that that's kind of the parallel here.

00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:58.000
Right? Like they're basically. I don't know what type of content they made.

00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.000
So they're making content showing off like pre-pirated

00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:05.000
consoles that are just loaded up with ROMs that you pay a

00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:09.000
fraction of the price for. And they're just they just come with a bunch of copyrighted

00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:13.000
games on them. And someone had said LTT would 100% take that down like

00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:16.000
we've done already. I don't know what you're talking about legitimately.

00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:19.000
I actually have no idea what you're talking about.

00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:23.000
We've, we've ourselves ordered counterfeit LTT merch and

00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:29.000
shown it on our channel. Anyway, get a legal department or some lawyer.

00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:33.000
No, no, no, no, no. I think it would depend because like, are they, okay,

00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:38.000
so they're showing this off, but are they trying to sell it?

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I mean, they're, they're reviewing it. I think that, I think that there's an implicit, I think

00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:49.000
there's an implicit promotional element to doing a review that

00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:55.000
encourages in some way the, the consumption of these goods.

00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:59.000
I, I, and remember, I'm not asking if you think it's legal,

00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:02.000
right? Because we're not lawyers. Don't tune in.

00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:07.000
This is not a legal podcast. What I'm asking you is, would you think that's cool?

00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:11.000
That was my phrasing. Would you think that's cool? Are they being cool if they do that?

00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:14.000
I don't, I don't think so. Yeah.

00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:17.000
I don't think it's that cool. I don't think I would think it's cool.

00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:20.000
Now, someone did bring up, someone did bring up in the chat.

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And I think this is a really good point that one of the

00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:27.000
foundational arguments around emulation and game piracy,

00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.000
especially of retro games, is game preservation.

00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:34.000
A lot of the time these are games that cannot be obtained

00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:39.000
through legitimate means anymore. And I've, again, I've made my position on that pretty clear

00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:43.000
as well, that if I have no legal, legitimate way to obtain

00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:47.000
something, I sleep like a baby, you know?

00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:50.000
Like if I, if I lived in a territory, if I lived in Egypt

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.000
or Libya or something, and I wanted to watch western content

00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:57.000
that just simply wasn't available via streaming or physical

00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:01.000
media in my region, I'd sleep like a frickin' baby.

00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:04.000
Yeah, I don't mind you acquiring that at all. Yeah.

00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:12.000
I do that now sometimes. Yeah. So, yeah, so, so unique username here goes, okay, you know,

00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:15.000
does your situation change somewhat if we make the

00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:19.000
parallel the same? What if it was a shirt we no longer sell?

00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:23.000
That is 100% still RIP.

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And when I say RIP, I don't mean rest in peace. I mean our intellectual property.

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And it is our choice whether we produce it or not.

00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.000
Now, in some cases, I can tell you that I wouldn't care.

00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.000
I'd be like, yeah, fair enough. We don't make it anymore. Like go for it.

00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:44.000
I do think I agree with that. But, however, and look, like the world is gray.

00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:47.000
The world is gray. Here's a shade of gray.

00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:51.000
What if it was a design that we specifically produced only a

00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:55.000
limited quantity of that our customer, part of our agreement

00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:59.000
with the customers who bought it, is that only a fixed number

00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:04.000
of these will exist? Well, then I'd feel like I have to protect it.

00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:08.000
Because it's not about me at that point. It's about maintaining the exclusivity that people paid

00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:13.000
for. People paid good money for it. And you might not agree that they should pay for that, but

00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.000
they did do it. And that was their expectation.

00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:19.000
Here's a weird angle. What about a recreation?

00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:23.000
What about a faithful but imperfect recreation?

00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:27.000
I mean, realistically, I can tell you guys straight up that

00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.000
it's not the kind of thing that we would pursue any legal

00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:35.000
action over. I think that there's just, there's a spectrum of how cool

00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:38.000
is it or how not cool is what they're doing.

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And I guess what I'm trying to say is I think jail time is

00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:51.000
absurd, obscene, ridiculous, and should be, should not be

00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:55.000
legal. It should not be legal to put someone in jail for playing

00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.000
video games.

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There's even like, because it's beyond reasonable doubt,

00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:04.000
right? Like have we crossed the threshold of beyond reasonable

00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:08.000
doubt? Could he have conceivably thought possibly maybe that these

00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:11.000
games were licensed? Maybe.

00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:14.000
I don't know.

00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:18.000
Luke never underestimate human ignorance.

00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:24.000
If I just buy this console, you know, I don't know.

00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:27.000
It's not impossible. You know better.

00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.000
Obviously, I know better. And he probably knows better.

00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:33.000
Yeah. And he probably knows better.

00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:36.000
But remember, beyond reasonable doubt, you have to prove he knows better.

00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.000
You have to prove he knew.

00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:42.000
So, what do you think?

00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:47.000
What do you think about my question? What if it's a recreation of one of our products?

00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:51.000
What if someone, Northern Lights, you know, I don't think we sell Northern Lights anymore.

00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:54.000
What if someone takes... Or Northern Lights is the desk pad.

00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:57.000
Did we have a Northern Lights shirt? Didn't we?

00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.000
I don't know. I don't remember. Anyway.

00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.000
Whatever that one was called with the mountains. Yeah. If somebody like re-drew it and it was almost like a

00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:08.000
tribute or fan art. I've always been very supportive of any kind of tribute

00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:11.000
or fan art. We've even gone as far as like promoting it on the

00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:16.000
show and on social stuff like that. In my opinion, if it's going to be an exclusive item and

00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:19.000
you didn't get it, and this is not the company's

00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.000
dance, but in my opinion, if you did a recreation that

00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:26.000
was your own, you didn't just like literally copy

00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:30.000
paste. That's cool in my opinion.

00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:33.000
But in the case of these ROMs, in the case of the simulation, that's not the case.

00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:36.000
So what I was trying to get around to is that while I

00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:39.000
strongly disagree that anyone should go to jail over

00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:45.000
the theft of supposedly, you know, tens of dollars or

00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:48.000
hundreds of dollars of video games, especially in the

00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:52.000
world that we live in, I do clip this.

00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:56.000
Go ahead. I do see why Nintendo is upset about it.

00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:59.000
I can see their perspective.

00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:02.000
I think they need to just take a bit of a chill pill

00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:09.000
here though. And hopefully they have the good sense to not pursue

00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:12.000
jail time over this. Hopefully.

00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:15.000
If anyone from Nintendo is watching, get this up the

00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:21.000
corporate ladder. Sending people to jail over gaming on emulation devices

00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:25.000
is not a good look.

00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:28.000
If it's Nintendo. Early in the full-plane chat, I said, don't assume laws in

00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:32.000
Italy are the same as in Canada. I didn't. We never did.

00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:39.000
Never happened. At no point in time did that happen. But in general, you should, the fundamental principle

00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:43.000
of innocent until proven guilty, my understanding is

00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:46.000
pretty well established in at least the western world as

00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:50.000
something we should aspire to at the very least.

00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.000
Does it always hold up in practice? No.

00:41:53.000 --> 00:42:01.000
Not here, not anywhere. But that's something that we should generally aspire to.

00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.000
Yeah. Oh.

00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:12.000
Yeah. Anyway, we've got a couple of more discussion questions.

00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.000
Most of them, I guess, we kind of covered as we were talking

00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:16.000
about it.

00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.000
Yeah. We're not talking about pizza or pasta.

00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:29.000
I don't need the entire country of Italy upset at me.

00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:34.000
Luke, do you want to pick a next topic? Sure.

00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.000
Let's talk about this Xbox thing. The motor is short.

00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:40.000
But Xbox Game Pass subscribers can stream their console games

00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:44.000
on PC now. This is directly from Microsoft and a quote.

00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:48.000
Xbox insiders in the PC gaming preview who are also Game Pass

00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:52.000
ultimate members can stream select console games that they own

00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:57.000
beyond the Game Pass catalog on the Xbox PC app.

00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:00.000
This includes console only games that previously couldn't be

00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:03.000
played using the Xbox PC app. Very cool.

00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:09.000
When I first read this, I thought this was just games that

00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:14.000
were on both platforms. But the fact that you could stream console only games is

00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:18.000
actually genuinely pretty sick. Yeah, it's progress.

00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:21.000
And not personally a Game Pass fan.

00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:24.000
But I think, like Linus said, this is progress. This seems better.

00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:27.000
This seems good. This is a good thing for gamers.

00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:33.000
Yeah. I need to see as much as it was exciting to hear Microsoft talk

00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:38.000
about when they announced the ROG Xbox Ally or Xbox ROG Ally

00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:41.000
X. I can't remember. Whatever. The Ally 2.

00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:47.000
I think the latter. Yeah. When Microsoft announced the Ally 2 alongside ASUS, you know,

00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:50.000
it was very exciting to hear about the better integration

00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:53.000
between the Xbox experience on PC and the Xbox experience

00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:58.000
on console. But one of the things that many, especially, you know, Xbox

00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:02.000
console fans, what few of them remain, brought up is that,

00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:06.000
OK, Microsoft, as great as it is, that I can play any of my

00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:11.000
cross-platform dual-license games on this supposedly

00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:15.000
Xbox console, this still isn't an Xbox because I can't play

00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:22.000
my Xbox exclusive games. And many third-party titles do not allow me to play on PC.

00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:27.000
They don't come with the dual-license. There are still Xbox platform exclusive-license games that

00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:31.000
you can buy. And so, you know, that was the strongest argument that I heard

00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:38.000
for why the Xbox Ally X, to whatever it is, is not, in fact,

00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:44.000
an Xbox. But this seems like part of Microsoft's push to really

00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:50.000
continue to chip away at the barriers that make something

00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:54.000
Xbox versus PC from a content perspective.

00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:59.000
So I find it pretty exciting. And in response to our discussion question, did you also think

00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:03.000
this was already possible? No, I did, in fact, know that you couldn't do that.

00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:07.000
Yeah, I didn't know that at all. But it did take me a minute to kind of go, OK, so wait,

00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:11.000
hold on, how is this different from what's going on? So I definitely see where you're coming from.

00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:14.000
Thank you, Ryder, who prepped that. That was a pretty short one.

00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:18.000
One thing I'm wondering is, what games are truly

00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:21.000
Xbox exclusive still? Not many.

00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:26.000
It's more that the license is only for your Xbox, rather than

00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:29.000
getting the dual-license with your purchase so that you can

00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:33.000
play that game on your Xbox or on your PC with a single purchase.

00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:36.000
Got it, OK. Yeah.

00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:39.000
Well, that doesn't really solve a huge problem for me then.

00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:43.000
Game Pass could theoretically give you that anyways. So like it really isn't.

00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:49.000
Well, not every game is on Game Pass. So any game that you bought not on Game Pass for your Xbox.

00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.000
That doesn't have dual-license. That's right. You can now stream it.

00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:57.000
Yeah, it's a niche problem. But it's one that as an Xbox gamer, I would find frustrating.

00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:01.000
It's still a good thing. It's a very minor good thing, but it's still a good thing.

00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:08.000
Damn it. It's progress, Luke. I'll take progress where I can get it in this complicated world where

00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:13.000
people are going to jail for playing Super Mario World on a pirate handheld.

00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:20.000
Yeah, that's clearly stupid. Speaking of interesting progress, YouTube rolls out beta for A.B.

00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:23.000
testing of titles to a small subset of users.

00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:27.000
I think a lot of YouTube enjoyers probably know at this point that

00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:31.000
there's been A.B. testing for thumbnails for quite some time.

00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:35.000
But yeah, now they're rolling out for a small subset title testing.

00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:39.000
We have some images of what it looks like. I can't show those off my laptop.

00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:47.000
I got you. For now, creators can test three titles or three thumbnails or three title

00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:50.000
thumbnail pairs. Interesting.

00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:57.000
Very cool. As far as we have seen, it does not run all combinations of title and

00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:00.000
thumbnail. That's what I expected it was going to do, but okay.

00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:06.000
With thumbnail, A.B.C., et cetera. This should allow creators greater ability to test the different ways of

00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:10.000
packaging their videos, which is cool. This is a good thing, in my opinion.

00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:14.000
Like with thumbnail testing, it uses watch time as the primary indicator

00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:18.000
of what is the best title, which I think makes sense given the

00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:25.000
metrics that YouTube currently cares about. LZT writer Adam went back through some older videos of his to test out the

00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:31.000
feature. Here are some tests that have been run or are currently running.

00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:36.000
The first listed title was the title at the start of the test.

00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:38.000
That's really interesting.

00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:44.000
Oh, and we're already seeing some results that indicate good potential

00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.000
changes. This is really interesting.

00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:51.000
Notable weird behaviors in viewership numbers after starting and running

00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:55.000
these tests on this video are included in some of the pictures that Linus is

00:47:55.000 --> 00:48:00.000
likely going through. Also, viewership numbers don't show as much weirdness on videos with more

00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:03.000
momentum, which is interesting.

00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:09.000
Kind of makes sense. This one was kind of dead in the water, and then we changed the titles.

00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:14.000
It gets a little bit of life. Yeah, a little bit of life got breathed into it, whereas this is one that

00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:19.000
just kind of already had kind of leveled off and had some decent momentum.

00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:28.000
Yeah. But you can see that watch time share way bigger for VR doesn't get better than

00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:32.000
this big screen beyond two versus they changed the VR game again.

00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:38.000
Too vague posty. It's easy to see in retrospect what you screwed up, but it's not always easy to

00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:43.000
come up with a title in the first place. Yeah, this is really cool.

00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:49.000
There was a heavily updated comment on Floatplane that the Floatplane title

00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:55.000
for Tech Gripes 2 was better than the YouTube title, and the YouTube audience

00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:58.000
is inconclusive. Oh, wow.

00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:02.000
This is very... I think I'm assuming he means heavily upvoted.

00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:09.000
Yeah. So this one, the original title won after Floatplane said that they really didn't

00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:16.000
resonate with the YouTube title, but barely, just barely.

00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:19.000
You can't always perfectly trust the Firefox users, you know?

00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:27.000
That's the thing about Firefox users is they know all about foxes and fire,

00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:32.000
but maybe not other things.

00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:35.000
Discussion question, do you worry about potential effects this can have on the

00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:38.000
experience for browsing videos?

00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:43.000
It's going to make it harder to find them, because if you remember the title of

00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:49.000
a video, I wonder if they have some way in their search.

00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:53.000
I've found YouTube's metadata-based searching is really strong.

00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:57.000
If I kind of remember the approximate vibe of what a video was and kind of

00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:01.000
what we talked about, they used the transcript, they used all the metadata

00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:05.000
at their disposal to try to return as accurate a search result as possible.

00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:08.000
Where I run into trouble is when they don't actually show me my search results,

00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:13.000
right? Like when they have two of my search results and then it's like

00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:17.000
continue watching other users enjoyed friggin...

00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:22.000
No, give me the search results, I'm trying to see my search results.

00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:29.000
Yeah, I'm hoping that they retain the old or the other various titles that were

00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:32.000
used in their search metadata stuff.

00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:37.000
As long as they do that, I think it'll be fine. That was the first concern that came to me.

00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:42.000
Other than that, I don't think it's going to have a major effect on browsing

00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:47.000
videos, to be honest. Titles are already incredibly clickbaity across YouTube.

00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:50.000
I honestly don't know that this will necessarily be worse.

00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:54.000
Linus pointed out earlier that one of the titles did worse because it was too

00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:58.000
vague posty. And if that is a thing...

00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:03.000
It's based on watch time. And that's for a very good reason.

00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:09.000
YouTube has over time moved away from focusing on things like click through

00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:12.000
because what they found was that even though people might click on a particular

00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:16.000
thumbnail, I mean, Phil DeFranco was famous for doing this way back in the day

00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:19.000
and he's scrubbed the internet of some of his old habits.

00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:22.000
So it's actually, I wanted to talk about this in a video on thumbnails

00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:26.000
and titling a little while back and I literally couldn't find anything of the

00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:31.000
old Phil DeFranco show, Sexy Phil, where everyone of his thumbnails

00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:34.000
would just have giant boobies all over it.

00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:38.000
And then they evolved the rules, so he had to have at least one frame

00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:43.000
of the actual video that had giant boobies so that he could include that in the

00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:49.000
thumbnail. And it was a whole thing, right? So the meta has evolved from click through, which YouTube has found does not

00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:54.000
generate a quality experience for the viewer to focusing on watch time.

00:51:54.000 --> 00:52:00.000
So by forcing us, not even telling us which one has the best click through,

00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:08.000
by forcing us to optimize for watch time, what YouTube is incentivizing,

00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:15.000
again, by forcing us to optimize for is promising something to the viewer

00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.000
that ultimately will be fulfilled, right?

00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:23.000
Because you're not going to hang around for a long watch duration on a video

00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:27.000
that makes a promise in the title and thumbnail that it doesn't fulfill.

00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:31.000
With that said, I do think there are behaviors that are going to be incentivized

00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:37.000
that are less desirable, like, you know, taking a while to get to the point,

00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:41.000
like kind of, you know, leading people, leading people, leading people on.

00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:45.000
And I don't, I have no problem with storytelling.

00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:52.000
I love storytelling, like setting up and creating an environment where I'm trying

00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:56.000
to give you an enticing teaser for what's to come.

00:52:56.000 --> 00:53:00.000
That is different from just, you know, blue balling it.

00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.000
Yeah. So I...

00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:08.000
It could be a good thing. I'm going to hold on to some hope and say that it could be a good thing.

00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:12.000
Is this, is this it, Luke? Is this the positive WAN Show?

00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:16.000
I mean, other than the first things we talked about. Other than...

00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:20.000
Is the rest of... And probably the next things we'll talk about.

00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:24.000
Shhh. Oh yeah, yeah.

00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:28.000
The next topic, if left up to me, will be negative. So we'll see how that goes.

00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:34.000
Okay. I'm not going to let you go next yet then.

00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:38.000
You want Adam Thoughts first? Sure.

00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:42.000
I could see this being... where did it go?

00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:48.000
There we go. I could see this being a nuisance for multi-account users where video progress isn't tracked.

00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:53.000
Yeah, so if you watch something on your work account,

00:53:54.580 --> 00:53:58.620
but then you go home and it gets served to you

00:53:58.620 --> 00:54:01.800
and now it has a different title or thumbnail, you might not realize you've seen it.

00:54:03.660 --> 00:54:07.020
I think that's a bit of an edge case though. That's probably mostly gonna be okay

00:54:07.020 --> 00:54:11.700
because once the trial is done, it settles on one.

00:54:11.700 --> 00:54:15.940
Now- Yeah, and that's already happening with thumbnails.

00:54:15.940 --> 00:54:20.860
And I do think that that could change in the future. Like if I had the ability to have like

00:54:20.860 --> 00:54:25.780
three different title thumbnail combos and say like this one's more tuned for hardcore techies

00:54:25.780 --> 00:54:29.460
and this one's more tuned for a more casual tech-adjacent audience and this one.

00:54:30.580 --> 00:54:33.920
I would- That feels like- I would use that. That's gotta be the future somehow.

00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:37.100
I would use that so hard. But yeah, that would be a nuisance for sure,

00:54:37.100 --> 00:54:42.100
especially if you got profiled slightly differently across your work and your personal use,

00:54:42.100 --> 00:54:47.280
which could happen. I mean- You very likely would. Would you like to watch different content at home

00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:49.260
versus what I watch at work?

00:54:53.640 --> 00:54:58.320
On YouTube? Why not? There's lots of interesting stuff on YouTube.

00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:06.400
The next question is, do you see any way this system could be gamed?

00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:10.400
And yeah, that's the point, I think. Yeah, I mean, what is gaming, right?

00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:13.800
Optimizing. The entire purpose of this feature

00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:19.960
is to optimize for more watch time. And that's in both YouTube's and creator's best interests.

00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:23.560
I don't know if it's in the audience's best interest, but hey, if you don't like YouTube,

00:55:23.560 --> 00:55:27.520
you don't have to watch it, I guess. I'm excited to see a spiffing Brit video. Oh no, everyone's leaving.

00:55:27.520 --> 00:55:31.360
Everyone's stopping watching. Just kidding, just kidding, they're hooked.

00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:36.280
I'd be interested to see a spiffing Brit video where he breaks down ways to min-max it somehow

00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:39.440
or something or like- I mean, it's almost certainly coming.

00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:45.000
It'd be interesting to see, like, okay, comment or like this comment,

00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:49.280
you know, if you got this version of the title or something like that, or what if there's some,

00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:53.400
oh man. That's actually pretty good, I like it.

00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:56.840
How many times can you redo these types of tests?

00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:59.840
Is it just once? I don't know if there's a limit.

00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:03.660
Yeah, interesting.

00:56:05.160 --> 00:56:11.080
Being able to just constantly change the title and the thumbnail, especially if it gives you

00:56:11.080 --> 00:56:14.240
even a small bit of a boost just because it's trying to see

00:56:14.240 --> 00:56:19.320
if people like the new version, could be something that's gained,

00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:23.400
but I'm sure they would become privy to that pretty quick.

00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:26.120
So, I don't know, it's interesting.

00:56:27.600 --> 00:56:31.840
Yes, Rosa Braga in Floatplane Chat

00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:35.120
is bringing up the whole Blake Lively,

00:56:35.120 --> 00:56:39.400
Ryan Reynolds thing that's going on right now. This just broke today, I think.

00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:43.560
16 YouTube commentators and 20 Twitter users

00:56:43.560 --> 00:56:47.920
are facing their private info, including credit card and bank account info,

00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:51.420
being handed over to Blake and Ryan by Google and X

00:56:51.420 --> 00:56:55.440
because they talked unfavorably about the Blake Lively lawsuit.

00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:58.880
I am reading this comment. I have not validated any of this. Wait, what?

00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:02.680
That doesn't make any sense. Their credit card info?

00:57:02.680 --> 00:57:07.560
It sounds flip and wild. I think it's very much developing,

00:57:07.560 --> 00:57:11.160
but yeah, pretty much they are not happy

00:57:11.160 --> 00:57:14.560
about what some social media users said about them

00:57:14.560 --> 00:57:20.640
and now they have learned about the Streisand effect, I guess, which is cool.

00:57:20.640 --> 00:57:25.200
I mean, that's a good thing to learn about. I've personally learned about the Streisand effect

00:57:25.200 --> 00:57:28.640
multiple times. Yeah. And now I know about it.

00:57:28.640 --> 00:57:32.160
I don't know if you did. I think I have. Okay.

00:57:33.160 --> 00:57:37.200
I mean, you don't think that I've found out about it?

00:57:37.200 --> 00:57:46.080
I think you have. I've certainly f**ked around. Maybe it's the lack of the lesson on the other end of it.

00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:48.760
I said I learned it. I didn't say I retained it.

00:57:50.600 --> 00:57:53.640
All right, fair enough. Why do you think I have to learn it multiple times?

00:57:56.960 --> 00:58:00.840
I'm just something of a hard, you know what? I'm just not gonna go there.

00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:04.240
Oh my. It just takes me a long time to learn. That's all I'm saying.

00:58:04.240 --> 00:58:06.040
I'm just, that's all I'm saying.

00:58:10.120 --> 00:58:14.160
Dan, you're not here to put the little card on to tell me to move on.

00:58:14.160 --> 00:58:18.960
What are we supposed to be doing? You gotta get a ring the bell app on your phone.

00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:22.800
This was mentioned earlier. Yeah. You can just yell ding.

00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:29.200
We got lots of topics up to you guys. We've been doing an announcement.

00:58:29.200 --> 00:58:33.280
Well, we've done two topics, so you're supposed to tell me the new thing to do. I just forget what it is.

00:58:35.600 --> 00:58:39.160
Oh, announcements. Okay. This is a warning.

00:58:39.160 --> 00:58:43.320
Whoa. The warning is that you're...

00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:46.840
Wait, are we supposed to start with explaining merch messages? Well, I don't know.

00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:50.760
I just do what Dan tells me. And then read. Yeah, but if he said go...

00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:52.400
Go f**k yourself, San Diego.

00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:57.840
If he said go to announcements, the first step of going to announcement is explaining merch messages.

00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:01.560
I said read an announcement. Oh no, he said read an announcement. I am wrong.

00:59:01.560 --> 00:59:05.560
I apologize, Dan, it's one breaking protocol. I'm gonna do this now.

00:59:05.560 --> 00:59:10.040
Okay, this is a warning because you only have until tomorrow

00:59:10.040 --> 00:59:13.760
to take advantage of Lime Day, our annual summer sales event.

00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:18.760
And yeah, we're probably not gonna extend it again because we actually have moved through a lot of stuff.

00:59:18.760 --> 00:59:24.200
It's been pretty solid. If you haven't been keeping up, we dropped some brand new deals this week,

00:59:24.200 --> 00:59:30.520
including saving up to 50% on a Scribe Driver and Notebook bundle.

00:59:30.520 --> 00:59:34.080
So that's just $29.99 US on the US site

00:59:34.080 --> 00:59:38.600
and $34.99 Canadian dollars on the Canadian site.

00:59:38.600 --> 00:59:43.360
I cannot both read this document and show the deals at the same time.

00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:47.240
So that's something. Do you want me to read it?

00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:53.240
Sure. Where do you end the Scribe Driver one?

00:59:53.240 --> 00:59:56.440
Yeah, Scribe Driver and Notebook bundle deal.

00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:59.640
You can save $30 on our hydro phase swim shorts

01:00:03.080 --> 01:00:08.080
You can save $25 and get an LTT hat for $15

01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:13.840
or save $32 on a water resistant LTT hat pro

01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:17.160
for only $17.99 on both sites.

01:00:17.160 --> 01:00:24.320
We also have great deals on our blank hoodies, premium joggers, and our retro monitor pet cave.

01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:28.960
And if you're shopping from outside the US, we also have great deals on our mystery water bottles

01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:32.880
and hoodies for 50% off or more.

01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:38.160
All of this and more are deals and they're available at LMG.gg slash lime.

01:00:40.240 --> 01:00:43.320
Okay, I definitely did not manage to keep up with you there,

01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:47.320
but there's that. I probably should have slowed down a little bit. Part of my drill is like, he'll figure it out.

01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:49.600
There's the hydro phase swim shorts.

01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:53.920
Yep, lots of deals, all right. It was blank hoodies, premium joggers,

01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:56.960
retro monitor pet cave. And don't forget about some of the deals

01:00:56.960 --> 01:01:00.080
that have just been running the whole time, 200 bucks Canadian.

01:01:00.080 --> 01:01:07.760
So that's like 150 US or something like that for our commuter backpack and 8-bit dough ultimate bundle.

01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:11.320
I've seen a lot of mystery screwdriver enjoyers on the Reddit.

01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:14.360
Yes, people have been all over the mystery screwdrivers.

01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:19.360
So let me see, there was, oh, but that's not all.

01:01:20.600 --> 01:01:24.720
We are bringing back the power outlet

01:01:24.720 --> 01:01:29.280
for non-US customers. So this is on the global site.

01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:32.480
You'll have to read this again because I have to show them how it works.

01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:37.200
Sure, I'll try to do a more followable job. Non-US customers, this is your chance

01:01:37.200 --> 01:01:40.960
to get amazing deals on open box and pre-owned goods.

01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:44.040
Not only are we bringing back our power packs,

01:01:44.040 --> 01:01:47.360
which is a randomly selected assortment of items

01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:51.560
from our returns, discounted at an amazing price.

01:01:51.560 --> 01:01:54.840
We have power packs for tops. We have power packs for bottoms.

01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:59.360
We have power packs for outerwear. And we have power packs for desk pads.

01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:01.040
We have two packages.

01:02:06.080 --> 01:02:08.600
You okay there? I'm hearing from Artie real quick. Hold on.

01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:10.680
Pause.

01:02:13.200 --> 01:02:16.600
Linus, open them up. But do you have a package on the table?

01:02:16.600 --> 01:02:20.480
Yeah, I got power packs. We have two packages on the top of the table to open up.

01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:24.520
Three, but sure. Linus, open them up. They're under you. I know where they are.

01:02:24.520 --> 01:02:28.360
All right. But I'm showing the site first. Yeah, sounds good.

01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:32.640
Well, no, I think he wants you to open them now. Okay, but you were in mid-sentence.

01:02:33.720 --> 01:02:37.400
I was. What mid-sentence was I on?

01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:41.440
No, no, I was basically done. We have power packs for tops, bottoms, outerwear,

01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:46.800
and desk pads. Is this a power pack of five bottoms

01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:52.680
or a five pack of power bottoms? I think it's a power pack of five bottoms.

01:02:52.680 --> 01:02:55.840
Yeah. I don't know. Quite a party in there.

01:02:55.840 --> 01:03:00.040
I don't know for sure. Anyway, the point is I have a couple of power packs.

01:03:00.040 --> 01:03:03.320
The one I'm holding here is large tops.

01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:06.400
So there is, I wanna make this abundantly clear.

01:03:07.240 --> 01:03:10.600
Abundantly clear, okay? I hope this is abundantly clear.

01:03:10.600 --> 01:03:15.200
Just because I open a particular assortment of shirts here

01:03:15.200 --> 01:03:18.520
does not mean that that is what you will receive.

01:03:18.520 --> 01:03:22.040
It could be anything that has been returned to LTT Store

01:03:22.040 --> 01:03:25.760
over the last four years. Like we have not done a good job

01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:32.360
of managing our returned inventory. So you could end up with quite literally anything.

01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:35.800
Are the bottoms, what size are the bottoms? Are they medium or small?

01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:40.680
Well, you've ordered the size that you want. Hmm, I meant the bags that you have.

01:03:40.680 --> 01:03:45.160
Oh, I don't know. All right, so wow, what did I end up with?

01:03:45.200 --> 01:03:48.560
The old school circuit shirt.

01:03:48.560 --> 01:03:50.760
I got, oh, this is a really nice one.

01:03:51.680 --> 01:03:56.480
Oh, this is a, wait, this is a medium. Okay, I think this is just an example one.

01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:04.400
Okay, yeah, cool. This is just an example one. I got the RGB T-shirt.

01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:09.960
I got, oh, seriously? We still have some of these kicking around?

01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:13.880
That's crazy. What? That's crazy.

01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:18.520
What the heck? Well, it's returns, dude. Like it's anything that's come back.

01:04:18.520 --> 01:04:21.520
You got to be kidding me. Yeah, but that's like actually like a decade old,

01:04:21.520 --> 01:04:25.640
isn't it? Like I'm not even kidding. I got a privateer shirt.

01:04:25.640 --> 01:04:28.760
And I actually, this is hilarious. I got the one I'm wearing.

01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:34.400
That's kind of nuts. Freakin' hilarious. Okay.

01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:37.480
The OGLT T-shirt, when was the last time we sold that?

01:04:39.600 --> 01:04:43.280
I would have never guessed to see one of those, dude. One thousand years ago.

01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:46.560
I had a couple of people ask, why not the US?

01:04:46.560 --> 01:04:49.000
So it's because of tariffs.

01:04:50.040 --> 01:04:54.880
These are items that were returned to our Canadian warehouse at a time

01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:59.400
when we only shipped from Canada. So they're all here in Canada.

01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:02.920
We have actually started shipping some of our US orders

01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:07.880
from the US. And so that is part of why some of the pricing

01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:12.080
and some of the deals have been different because we've had to split up our logistics

01:05:12.080 --> 01:05:15.680
across our Canadian and our US distribution centers.

01:05:15.680 --> 01:05:19.080
So this is something that our team is going through

01:05:19.080 --> 01:05:22.320
and grading and making sure that things are adhering

01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:25.800
to our quality standards and that we are shipping from Canada.

01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:29.320
So for us to ship a pack of T-shirts into the US right now,

01:05:30.240 --> 01:05:34.280
I mean, it depends on what the feeling of the day is

01:05:34.280 --> 01:05:38.400
in terms of the import tariffs. So it's just not something that we're able to deal with.

01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:43.400
Mm-hmm. Here's a Canadian, sorry.

01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:47.080
Can I pay the tarry and get the rare stuff? One of the things is you don't know

01:05:47.080 --> 01:05:50.200
if you're going to get the rare stuff. Yeah, you might not get rare stuff. So like, I don't know what to tell you.

01:05:50.200 --> 01:05:53.960
You might only get new things. It's not a guarantee that you're going to get a shirt

01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:56.000
that I haven't seen in years.

01:05:57.360 --> 01:06:02.360
Okay. Here, I've got a power pack of desk pads.

01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:07.480
Oh, Lordy.

01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:14.400
What? All right. Oh, I got a Wansho desk pad,

01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:18.280
the one with the hexagons, bestagons all over it.

01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:23.520
Yeah. I got the LTX-23 Vancouver Skyline desk pad.

01:06:27.240 --> 01:06:30.360
This one's actually a really sick design.

01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:35.840
I really like that one. Yeah. I got this one that really didn't sell very well.

01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:43.320
I wonder why. It did really great out of the gate and then people got over it, basically.

01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:47.240
I think that's kind of how meme products work. The entire group of people that'll be interested in it

01:06:47.240 --> 01:06:50.640
will buy it like within the first two days and then that's about it.

01:06:50.640 --> 01:06:54.440
And then finally, I have a power pack that is not labeled.

01:06:56.160 --> 01:07:00.680
Again, these are demo ones. I doubt they're tops because this is fricking heavy.

01:07:00.680 --> 01:07:02.680
It's probably outerwear or bottoms.

01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:09.440
All right. It's outerwear. Oh, dude.

01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:12.440
Hold on a second. How much? Is that the jacket?

01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:14.440
How much are these power packs?

01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:18.440
Is that the down jacket? The outerwear one is $200.

01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:21.440
Okay. Okay. Okay.

01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:24.440
That's a little less scary. But yes, this is a 3D down jacket,

01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:27.440
which was already worth more than $200. Remember?

01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:30.440
Again. Okay. I want to get different things.

01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:33.440
Yeah. It's a large Luke.

01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:36.440
Sorry. It's not an XL. Okay.

01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:39.440
Yeah, I know. I know you want another one. Yep.

01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:43.440
Oh, man. A dropout.

01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:47.440
Dropout hoodie in red. This one's fricking awesome.

01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:50.440
Those didn't sell that well. No, they did. Remember, these are returns.

01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:53.440
So I'm saying some of this stuff didn't sell that well,

01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:56.440
but that's not where these are coming from. Got it.

01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:59.440
Okay. Yeah. Because I really liked the dropout line.

01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:03.440
Whoa. Dude, a swag kit. Oh, that's another throwback.

01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:06.440
Yeah. This is not nearly as old as the other one,

01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:09.440
but not seen one of those in a long time.

01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:14.440
Oh, too food. This also has the shoot.

01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:19.440
I forget what we called this thing. Did we call it windbreaker or something? It's like a kind of like a light.

01:08:20.440 --> 01:08:23.440
It actually, it's quite waterproof. It's like kind of a light rain jacket.

01:08:23.440 --> 01:08:25.440
I think we called it our windbreaker.

01:08:26.440 --> 01:08:29.440
And then I don't know that this is quite outerwear.

01:08:29.440 --> 01:08:31.440
So I guess we're just saying not t-shirt.

01:08:32.440 --> 01:08:34.440
So yeah, color block hoodie.

01:08:35.440 --> 01:08:39.440
Okay. Well, there's going to be an element of randomness to it,

01:08:39.440 --> 01:08:41.440
but you could end up with some pretty cool stuff.

01:08:42.440 --> 01:08:45.440
Can we, can we as members of the company,

01:08:45.440 --> 01:08:49.440
can we internal request power packs?

01:08:51.440 --> 01:08:55.440
That could be a game or move. That seems questionable.

01:08:56.440 --> 01:08:58.440
I think these are probably for customers.

01:08:59.440 --> 01:09:02.440
All right. Thank you. Yeah.

01:09:02.440 --> 01:09:06.440
I don't know about that. I was about to pull such a gamer move.

01:09:06.440 --> 01:09:09.440
If Linus doesn't want us to, then I will block them.

01:09:09.440 --> 01:09:12.440
Because currently, if you get in there right now, you can.

01:09:13.440 --> 01:09:16.440
Okay. Yeah, Dan. I don't know.

01:09:16.440 --> 01:09:20.440
I'd like you to maybe check with Artie on that,

01:09:20.440 --> 01:09:24.440
but my gut feeling is this is meant to be a promotional deal

01:09:24.440 --> 01:09:31.440
for our customers. That's fair. And people internally are already getting these items for free

01:09:31.440 --> 01:09:36.440
as part of their employment here. I don't, I don't think they need to hoover up deals

01:09:36.440 --> 01:09:39.440
that are really intended for the customers. That's fair. It's a min max.

01:09:39.440 --> 01:09:42.440
Part of my brain just got excited. Yes, I know. I know.

01:09:42.440 --> 01:09:44.440
But it's, it's about intent.

01:09:45.440 --> 01:09:48.440
It's about intent. Yeah.

01:09:48.440 --> 01:09:51.440
Okay. Sorry. Did you already heard back from Artie?

01:09:51.440 --> 01:09:55.440
Yeah, you said no. Yeah. That, that, that makes sense to me personally.

01:09:55.440 --> 01:09:58.440
But we'll probably have to kill that on the thing, right? Yeah.

01:09:58.440 --> 01:10:01.440
Yeah. Okay. All right.

01:10:01.440 --> 01:10:04.440
Thanks, Daniel Besser. By default, I think it would. Who the f**k are you again?

01:10:04.440 --> 01:10:07.440
Just. I don't know anymore. All right.

01:10:07.440 --> 01:10:12.440
So I have a feeling those power packs,

01:10:12.440 --> 01:10:16.440
how's the merge messages going, Dan? I feel like after we started opening those,

01:10:16.440 --> 01:10:21.440
those are probably going burr, especially because don't forget until tomorrow,

01:10:21.440 --> 01:10:24.440
we have free shipping running on orders over a certain threshold.

01:10:24.440 --> 01:10:27.440
It was 100, 250 cat or something like that.

01:10:27.440 --> 01:10:31.440
So you pick up a power pack and like a couple other things and you're off to the races.

01:10:31.440 --> 01:10:35.440
This is kind of crazy. I, I didn't know that we were launching the power outlet

01:10:35.440 --> 01:10:39.440
while we still had a free shipping promo running.

01:10:39.440 --> 01:10:43.440
Good luck everybody. Anywho, what are we supposed to do next?

01:10:44.440 --> 01:10:47.440
Oh man. So you do a couple of merge messages?

01:10:47.440 --> 01:10:51.440
Yeah. Sure. There's also the Floatplane announcement where we could do

01:10:51.440 --> 01:10:56.440
merge messages first. So it wasn't 100% done. Did you finish the rest of these details?

01:10:56.440 --> 01:11:01.440
I don't know. You can also get yourself a like new open box commuter backpack

01:11:01.440 --> 01:11:04.440
and like new cargo pants.

01:11:04.440 --> 01:11:07.440
Stop adding the dock please.

01:11:07.440 --> 01:11:11.440
Plus like new open box LTT backpacks are back and available

01:11:11.440 --> 01:11:16.440
to purchase. And with free shipping on all orders over 250 cat on our

01:11:16.440 --> 01:11:20.440
global site or 175 USD on our US site,

01:11:20.440 --> 01:11:23.440
or you can save it.

01:11:23.440 --> 01:11:27.440
You can save it. Yeah. If you do that, you can save a ton of money before Lime Day

01:11:27.440 --> 01:11:32.440
ends tomorrow. If you're shopping outside the US, visit LMG.GG slash outlet

01:11:32.440 --> 01:11:35.440
before it's too late. Cool.

01:11:35.440 --> 01:11:38.440
Exciting. Very exciting. All right.

01:11:38.440 --> 01:11:41.440
That's exciting if you do that in the next two days because that's pretty wild.

01:11:41.440 --> 01:11:45.440
Dan, do you want to hit me with a merge message?

01:11:45.440 --> 01:11:48.440
Sure. Let's see how loud this is.

01:11:48.440 --> 01:11:53.440
Hey LLD. I really love the lanyards. Are there any more plans to restock and add more variety?

01:11:53.440 --> 01:11:56.440
Thanks from the UK for the videos and the quality stuff.

01:11:56.440 --> 01:12:00.440
I ordered way too much stuff, but it's the perfect R.

01:12:00.440 --> 01:12:05.440
Cool. I don't know that we have more lanyards coming.

01:12:05.440 --> 01:12:11.440
I've taken your feedback. I'd love to bring some back in.

01:12:11.440 --> 01:12:14.440
I don't know that you'd see necessarily more variety

01:12:14.440 --> 01:12:17.440
because of the whole multiple distribution center thing.

01:12:17.440 --> 01:12:21.440
We have to control our SKU count because the logistics

01:12:21.440 --> 01:12:28.440
of transferring six units each of 25 different colors of lanyard

01:12:28.440 --> 01:12:33.440
versus 25 units each of six colors of lanyards

01:12:33.440 --> 01:12:39.440
is way more complicated. We just have to control our SKU count in order to make it

01:12:39.440 --> 01:12:43.440
somewhat manageable to economically ship things from within

01:12:43.440 --> 01:12:47.440
the US to US customers and from Canada to our global customers

01:12:47.440 --> 01:12:51.440
and in the longer term from potentially more distribution

01:12:51.440 --> 01:12:54.440
centers to customers around the world in order to help make

01:12:54.440 --> 01:13:01.440
our shipping costs more economical.

01:13:01.440 --> 01:13:07.440
You look puzzled, Luke. Yeah, I'm trying to read the next, I'm trying to read this

01:13:07.440 --> 01:13:10.440
and I don't know if it's just my brain right now,

01:13:10.440 --> 01:13:14.440
but what is the beginning of this?

01:13:14.440 --> 01:13:18.440
Okay. The next message?

01:13:18.440 --> 01:13:21.440
No, the full plan announcement.

01:13:21.440 --> 01:13:25.440
Don't worry about it, we'll talk a little bit when we get there. Sure, we'll do another merge.

01:13:25.440 --> 01:13:30.440
Instead of GamerJet, can we just get an LTT hotel?

01:13:30.440 --> 01:13:34.440
It would make some sweet land parties. Thanks, DLL, for keeping me engaged in tech

01:13:34.440 --> 01:13:39.440
while I search for a new IT role. Mission complete, hashtag LinusTown less than three.

01:13:39.440 --> 01:13:43.440
I tried to buy this. Yeah, we tried.

01:13:43.440 --> 01:13:51.440
I went as far as having an acquaintance of CEO Taryn Tongs

01:13:51.440 --> 01:13:57.440
who works in construction come and do a thorough walkthrough

01:13:57.440 --> 01:14:00.440
and figure out what exactly would need to be done.

01:14:00.440 --> 01:14:03.440
I went as far as meeting with the city of Surrey

01:14:03.440 --> 01:14:07.440
about whether we could, I kind of pitched them a universal

01:14:07.440 --> 01:14:12.440
studio's type of setup where it is both a functioning studio

01:14:12.440 --> 01:14:15.440
and also a functioning hotel.

01:14:15.440 --> 01:14:18.440
So what was cool about this property is it has an underground

01:14:18.440 --> 01:14:21.440
parkade, but also an outdoor, an outside parkade.

01:14:21.440 --> 01:14:24.440
So what I had wanted to do was block off the underground

01:14:24.440 --> 01:14:27.440
parkade, make that staff only so that we would have a secure

01:14:27.440 --> 01:14:34.440
entrance that would use the service elevator to come up into the workspace areas, which would be cordoned off

01:14:34.440 --> 01:14:37.440
from the visitor areas, which would be like the ballroom,

01:14:37.440 --> 01:14:40.440
the dining area, the pool and stuff like that,

01:14:40.440 --> 01:14:43.440
and then have the upper floors be guest rooms

01:14:43.440 --> 01:14:46.440
that would all be like gaming themed guest rooms.

01:14:46.440 --> 01:14:51.440
I wanted to work out of it while we were renovating it

01:14:51.440 --> 01:14:56.440
because that was the only way that we were going to be able to afford this by liquidating all of the other real estate

01:14:56.440 --> 01:14:59.440
holdings that we have, dumping them all into this,

01:14:59.440 --> 01:15:02.440
which would mean we wouldn't have anywhere else to work,

01:15:02.440 --> 01:15:06.440
and we'd have to be like using it as we build it up around us.

01:15:06.440 --> 01:15:11.440
And I'm not going to blame anybody for why it didn't work out.

01:15:11.440 --> 01:15:15.440
It just didn't work out, and another party has purchased it,

01:15:15.440 --> 01:15:21.440
and that would have been pretty cool.

01:15:21.440 --> 01:15:27.440
Yeah. Yeah, apparently the hotel sold for 18 million CAD,

01:15:27.440 --> 01:15:30.440
even though I think it was 175...

01:15:30.440 --> 01:15:34.440
No, 136,000 square feet on five acres.

01:15:34.440 --> 01:15:39.440
I needed so much. It needed a new building envelope.

01:15:39.440 --> 01:15:42.440
The entire outside of it, they had tried to paint it

01:15:42.440 --> 01:15:46.440
to seal it in or whatever, but it was trashed.

01:15:46.440 --> 01:15:50.440
The entire stucco needed to come off, it needed to be redone.

01:15:50.440 --> 01:15:56.440
It needed a frickin' ton of work. It also had a history of like supposedly being haunted.

01:15:57.440 --> 01:16:00.440
The caretaker... What was that? Dan?

01:16:00.440 --> 01:16:04.440
Sorry. The caretaker suite had these weird dolls and stuff in it.

01:16:04.440 --> 01:16:07.440
I think they were staging it to make it seem haunted or something,

01:16:07.440 --> 01:16:11.440
and some weird ghost hunter channel went and featured it once.

01:16:11.440 --> 01:16:14.440
I don't know, it was pretty cool. But yeah, Pink Palace.

01:16:14.440 --> 01:16:18.440
I would have loved to do that.

01:16:18.440 --> 01:16:24.440
It would have been an absolute content mine, because literally every single guest room could have been a video project,

01:16:24.440 --> 01:16:27.440
like a makeover reno project.

01:16:27.440 --> 01:16:31.440
We just... Yeah, we couldn't make it happen. I've had Gamer Hotel in the back of my mind,

01:16:31.440 --> 01:16:35.440
ever since I stayed at that one in Taiwan that I made a video about.

01:16:35.440 --> 01:16:39.440
The jumping plumber room. Right?

01:16:39.440 --> 01:16:42.440
Yeah. Right? Yeah.

01:16:42.440 --> 01:16:46.440
When people go to Disney, if they're like extremely baller,

01:16:46.440 --> 01:16:49.440
they stay at the fancy themed hotels, right?

01:16:49.440 --> 01:16:52.440
That's a thing that people do. I've heard this is a thing.

01:16:52.440 --> 01:16:57.440
And this would have been so cool, because it also would have been a dumping ground for projects that we've finished.

01:16:57.440 --> 01:17:01.440
Like the every console in a TV thing,

01:17:01.440 --> 01:17:05.440
we could have just had down in the ballroom. Could be one of the TVs in one of the rooms.

01:17:05.440 --> 01:17:08.440
Or guests could play.

01:17:08.440 --> 01:17:12.440
Remember when we had 16K gaming, that giant thing? We just put that in the dining area,

01:17:12.440 --> 01:17:16.440
and people can play on it until it breaks or whatever.

01:17:16.440 --> 01:17:20.440
Because we're always doing new projects. Anyway, we could always just keep it fresh.

01:17:21.440 --> 01:17:26.440
Occasionally, it had a little theater that we could have done when show live.

01:17:26.440 --> 01:17:29.440
And guests at the hotel could have come and watched live.

01:17:29.440 --> 01:17:33.440
So we could have just used that for lunch. I mean, we had all kinds of ideas for what would have been cool about it.

01:17:33.440 --> 01:17:36.440
It would have been pretty sick. Nope.

01:17:36.440 --> 01:17:42.440
Nope. And I just, especially with what's going on in the real estate market here right now,

01:17:42.440 --> 01:17:48.440
my appetite has never been lower for making deals at the moment.

01:17:51.440 --> 01:17:54.440
All right. Good question though. I think you've got to do the next announcement.

01:17:54.440 --> 01:17:57.440
Oh, do I know. Float plain announcement.

01:17:57.440 --> 01:18:10.440
I've been called many things. Short, vertically challenged, not very tall, close to the ground, and narcissist.

01:18:13.440 --> 01:18:16.440
We can see that I'm short and have below average size.

01:18:16.440 --> 01:18:19.440
What is this? Yeah.

01:18:19.440 --> 01:18:25.440
But we needed answers to determine if I am in fact a narcissist.

01:18:25.440 --> 01:18:29.440
And I'm, ooh, I've been told to click on 82nd teaser.

01:18:29.440 --> 01:18:31.440
Good luck me.

01:18:32.440 --> 01:18:34.440
Dan, is this going to work?

01:18:35.440 --> 01:18:37.440
Hopefully. Cool.

01:18:38.440 --> 01:18:41.440
Linus takes a narcissist test teaser.

01:18:42.440 --> 01:18:45.440
Oh, and it's over. Okay.

01:18:45.440 --> 01:18:48.440
We're going to try again. Float?

01:18:48.440 --> 01:18:50.440
No. What just happened?

01:18:51.440 --> 01:18:53.440
My name is Jonathan. Is this LMG?

01:18:54.440 --> 01:19:00.440
And I'm like, no. And he's like, oh, we're doing a narcissism test.

01:19:02.440 --> 01:19:07.440
That's the intro. Give me an example of some time I should have accepted the consequences of my behavior.

01:19:07.440 --> 01:19:10.440
I bit my tongue so hard. I'm sorry.

01:19:10.440 --> 01:19:15.440
I am not too concerned about success. I mean, I consider myself successful at this point.

01:19:15.440 --> 01:19:18.440
It's not really, it's not really a forward-looking statement anymore.

01:19:21.440 --> 01:19:26.440
I find it easy to manipulate people. I don't like it when I find myself manipulating people.

01:19:26.440 --> 01:19:32.440
Those could both be true. You could find it effortless, but not like that.

01:19:32.440 --> 01:19:35.440
I insist upon getting the respect that is due me.

01:19:35.440 --> 01:19:39.440
I usually get the respect that I deserve. I think I get the respect I deserve.

01:19:39.440 --> 01:19:42.440
Or sometimes not. Stop the audience. How you doing?

01:19:42.440 --> 01:19:48.440
I think part of it, though, is a learned behavior because it just feels like ass-kissing because of the position that I'm in.

01:19:48.440 --> 01:19:50.440
I just, I hate suck-ups. So true, so true.

01:19:52.440 --> 01:19:56.440
Well, I sometimes depend on people to get things done.

01:19:56.440 --> 01:20:01.440
I rarely depend on anyone else to get things done. I mean, what's the point of manipulating people if they don't do things for you?

01:20:01.440 --> 01:20:04.440
Stupid laptop. We're gonna get canceled.

01:20:07.440 --> 01:20:09.440
My laptop every once in a while screen locks.

01:20:10.440 --> 01:20:13.440
Oh, nice. Doesn't matter what operating system.

01:20:13.440 --> 01:20:19.440
Just to make it very clear, he's not talking about the laptop from our laptop partner, Dell.

01:20:24.440 --> 01:20:28.440
Oh, I actually forgot about the whole thing. That probably looks really weird.

01:20:31.440 --> 01:20:32.440
Let's go.

01:20:34.440 --> 01:20:38.440
Anyway, sorry, it was a little bit quiet. You guys can just go watch it on Flow Plane.

01:20:38.440 --> 01:20:40.440
That's probably the best thing to do.

01:20:41.440 --> 01:20:47.440
Anyway, you can find out if I'm a narcissist and brows are almost 600 plus strong catalog of extras,

01:20:47.440 --> 01:20:50.440
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01:20:50.440 --> 01:20:56.440
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01:20:56.440 --> 01:20:59.440
All right, Luke. What are we supposed to do next? You want to do a topic?

01:20:59.440 --> 01:21:03.440
Let's do a topic. We can. You want more bad stuff?

01:21:03.440 --> 01:21:06.440
No. I want good. Give me good.

01:21:07.440 --> 01:21:11.440
I'm trying to find some good.

01:21:11.440 --> 01:21:15.440
Dbrand fixes the switch to kill switch issues.

01:21:15.440 --> 01:21:18.440
All right. In our recent video, which we have a link to,

01:21:18.440 --> 01:21:24.440
we made note of two recent user issues with the kill switch joy cons,

01:21:24.440 --> 01:21:32.440
inadvertently, with the kill switch. Detaching for some users and difficulty removing the console from the dock with one hand.

01:21:32.440 --> 01:21:36.440
I think the joy cons detaching was also mostly a one hand problem.

01:21:36.440 --> 01:21:39.440
So one hand issues is what they seem to have.

01:21:39.440 --> 01:21:43.440
The second one is what we focused on, which is removing it from the dock.

01:21:43.440 --> 01:21:47.440
Yeah. Dbrand is replacing everyone's joy con grips for free.

01:21:47.440 --> 01:21:53.440
Dying. The free replacement isn't just a correctly made version of the original joy con grips.

01:21:53.440 --> 01:21:56.440
It's an all new design that eliminates the risk of detachment

01:21:56.440 --> 01:21:59.440
and highly and they're calling it joy lock.

01:21:59.440 --> 01:22:06.440
All shipments of joy lock grips will also include a set of friction pads to apply to your dock adapter.

01:22:06.440 --> 01:22:11.440
These friction pads will make the dock adapter seat more snugly on the OEM dock,

01:22:11.440 --> 01:22:20.440
enabling one handed on docking. Their email notes that this remedy is being sent to the population of a small country.

01:22:20.440 --> 01:22:24.440
Also known as all the people that bought the kill switch.

01:22:24.440 --> 01:22:27.440
All right. Good on Dbrand. Thanks for getting that fixed.

01:22:27.440 --> 01:22:36.440
And I mean, I think this is an opportunity to highlight that while we have our tech gripes with many companies products,

01:22:36.440 --> 01:22:47.440
there are very few of them that then take those gripes and take that feedback and just suck it the up and deal with it and fix it.

01:22:47.440 --> 01:22:50.440
Dbrand has made their perfect. Yeah.

01:22:50.440 --> 01:22:54.440
They've made their fair share of mistakes like anybody who happens to be human.

01:22:54.440 --> 01:23:03.440
Yeah. I think that by and large, we continue to be proud to partner with them because they take a very.

01:23:03.440 --> 01:23:09.440
Oh, okay. They can be a little antagonistic sometimes, but not not for real, right?

01:23:09.440 --> 01:23:13.440
Like they've got a personality, but they take when push comes to shove,

01:23:13.440 --> 01:23:20.440
they take a very human, very humble, very real approach to just fixing their shit.

01:23:20.440 --> 01:23:26.440
So I think it's really cool that while we absolutely had our issues with the product,

01:23:26.440 --> 01:23:33.440
they're out there dealing with both the flaw in the product and the flawed initial response to the community,

01:23:33.440 --> 01:23:38.440
and they're sucking it up and they're just they're dealing with it and they're going to fix it going forward.

01:23:38.440 --> 01:23:43.440
So shout out Dbrand who happens to be our rap partner here on the WAN Show.

01:23:43.440 --> 01:23:46.440
See that Dbrand rap right there, right there.

01:23:46.440 --> 01:23:50.440
I'm proud to have it on my phone.

01:23:50.440 --> 01:23:53.440
Me too.

01:23:53.440 --> 01:23:56.440
I actually really like mine.

01:23:56.440 --> 01:24:04.440
Yeah. It's cool. Anyways, is there more good news anywhere?

01:24:04.440 --> 01:24:08.440
Europe and Intel. So hot right now.

01:24:08.440 --> 01:24:15.440
Firefox can't even handle the heat from that wombo combo Europe plus Intel.

01:24:15.440 --> 01:24:22.440
Another record setting heat wave grips Western Europe and has had an unexpected consequence.

01:24:22.440 --> 01:24:25.440
Overloading Mozilla's support team.

01:24:25.440 --> 01:24:33.440
Mozilla has had to disable crash reports from PCs that are equipped with Raptor Lake CPUs

01:24:33.440 --> 01:24:38.440
due to unprecedented instability from the lineup of already hot running chips.

01:24:38.440 --> 01:24:43.440
The worst of the bunch is the Core i7 14700K.

01:24:43.440 --> 01:24:50.440
That's right my friends, the temperature is so much higher in Western Europe right now

01:24:50.440 --> 01:24:57.440
that these already on edge 14th gen and I guess yeah 13th gen as well CPUs

01:24:58.440 --> 01:25:05.440
are being pushed over the threshold from stability to instability by this heat wave.

01:25:05.440 --> 01:25:13.440
That's right not even mother nature herself can help from dog piling on Intel's troubled CPU lineup.

01:25:13.440 --> 01:25:19.440
And the worst part is 13th and 14th gen are the ones that are selling.

01:25:20.440 --> 01:25:28.440
As far as I can tell Core Ultra 200 series has been a gigantic wet fart of a CPU launch.

01:25:28.440 --> 01:25:43.440
I can't even imagine me from five years ago being able to predict that Intel could possibly move this little of a new generation of product.

01:25:43.440 --> 01:25:47.440
Like check this out okay.

01:25:47.440 --> 01:25:52.440
Is Core Ultra even here in the shop by series?

01:25:52.440 --> 01:25:56.440
Will Core i9 bring it up?

01:25:56.440 --> 01:25:59.440
The answer is no.

01:25:59.440 --> 01:26:07.440
Whoa. That, that right there tells you everything you need to know.

01:26:07.440 --> 01:26:11.440
That is how irrelevant Core Ultra is.

01:26:11.440 --> 01:26:15.440
Hold on a second. Let's keep going.

01:26:15.440 --> 01:26:22.440
Motherboard. Intel motherboards.

01:26:22.440 --> 01:26:27.440
1851. Is there more hive mind thinking now than in the past?

01:26:27.440 --> 01:26:34.440
I think a little bit yeah. AMD chips were like pretty terrible for a long time there. You could still find them quite easily.

01:26:34.440 --> 01:26:38.440
Yeah but that was because that's all they have Intel still selling 13th and 14th gen.

01:26:38.440 --> 01:26:41.440
Like those are still moving okay as far as I can tell.

01:26:41.440 --> 01:26:44.440
Okay.

01:26:44.440 --> 01:26:48.440
Okay yeah so what is this? The best sort by best selling.

01:26:48.440 --> 01:26:51.440
Oh my god.

01:26:51.440 --> 01:26:57.440
These chips have been out for how the freak how the freak long have these chips been out for?

01:26:57.440 --> 01:27:01.440
Intel Core Ultra Linus hold on a second.

01:27:01.440 --> 01:27:04.440
Thank you for trying Intel.

01:27:04.440 --> 01:27:07.440
Eight months ago.

01:27:07.440 --> 01:27:11.440
Eight months ago these chips came out.

01:27:11.440 --> 01:27:17.440
The top selling board is running at $77 off.

01:27:17.440 --> 01:27:27.440
This is a Tomahawk Z890 board for 240 bucks and has only 105 reviews.

01:27:27.440 --> 01:27:30.440
Are you kidding me right now?

01:27:30.440 --> 01:27:33.440
Oh my god it's worse. Holy crap it's worse.

01:27:33.440 --> 01:27:40.440
I saw I saw this and I was like oh yeah I mean there's there's a bunch of boards that have like you know 50 something

01:27:40.440 --> 01:27:46.440
60 something reviews. No no no no no dude Luke Luke it's so much worse.

01:27:46.440 --> 01:27:49.440
They're pooling reviews.

01:27:49.440 --> 01:27:54.440
All these boards with 67 are the same product page.

01:27:54.440 --> 01:28:00.440
Across ASUS's entire Z890 lineup.

01:28:00.440 --> 01:28:05.440
There are 67 reviews.

01:28:05.440 --> 01:28:11.440
Holy f***ing s***. Wow that's nuts actually.

01:28:11.440 --> 01:28:17.440
Oh my.

01:28:17.440 --> 01:28:23.440
Like I was already looking at just a handful of boards that have like 50 plus reviews that's already not great.

01:28:23.440 --> 01:28:26.440
That's cumulative.

01:28:26.440 --> 01:28:29.440
And the MSI one is across a bunch of boards as well.

01:28:29.440 --> 01:28:34.440
105 reviews across and I'm going to read them all just to make this point.

01:28:34.440 --> 01:28:38.440
The MPG Z890 Edge TI Wi-Fi.

01:28:38.440 --> 01:28:42.440
The Z890 Gaming Plus Wi-Fi. Z890S Wi-Fi.

01:28:42.440 --> 01:28:46.440
Pro Z890A Wi-Fi. Pro Z890P Wi-Fi.

01:28:46.440 --> 01:28:50.440
MPG Z890 Edge TI Wi-Fi.

01:28:50.440 --> 01:28:53.440
MPG Z890 Carbon Wi-Fi.

01:28:53.440 --> 01:28:59.440
MEG Z890 Ace and MEG Z890 Tomahawk Wi-Fi.

01:28:59.440 --> 01:29:06.440
105 reviews.

01:29:06.440 --> 01:29:10.440
Okay okay hold on hold on I got people asking me some stuff.

01:29:10.440 --> 01:29:17.440
They're asking me some stuff in the Floatplane chat. They're like okay hold on a second the line is go to Amazon maybe New Egg just doesn't sell motherboards anymore.

01:29:17.440 --> 01:29:24.440
So let's do it let's do it. Okay Z890 here we go.

01:29:24.440 --> 01:29:28.440
Okay okay okay hold on maybe Amazon's doing a little better.

01:29:28.440 --> 01:29:34.440
But seriously hold on this is the first result.

01:29:34.440 --> 01:29:38.440
50 plus bought in the last month.

01:29:38.440 --> 01:29:45.440
Okay let me put that in context okay that was this was the first result on the page.

01:29:45.440 --> 01:29:50.440
And yes these are oh hold on are these pulled as well hold on are these pulled.

01:29:50.440 --> 01:29:55.440
Maybe they're pulled maybe they're not oh wow most I don't think they're pulled.

01:29:55.440 --> 01:30:01.440
But most of these are pretty low there's a couple that have like 1100 okay.

01:30:01.440 --> 01:30:06.440
But for the most part we're looking at like 21 reviews at 50 plus bought.

01:30:06.440 --> 01:30:13.440
Eight reviews 50 plus bought in the last month I actually love this like how many people are buying this here's the overall pick with 800 reviews.

01:30:13.440 --> 01:30:18.440
Okay so New Egg is not doing a good job of either selling motherboards I guess or of soliciting reviews.

01:30:18.440 --> 01:30:25.440
But let me put this in context these numbers like 50 plus 50 plus 100 plus.

01:30:25.440 --> 01:30:38.440
Okay I used to work at a Canadian retailer that realistically you know for being real their presence was mostly felt in like western Canada.

01:30:38.440 --> 01:30:44.440
These would not be unrealistic motherboard sales numbers for us.

01:30:44.440 --> 01:30:59.440
The U.S. market at the time was I think about 12 times the size and now would be larger than it was back then.

01:30:59.440 --> 01:31:05.440
What? Oh man.

01:31:05.440 --> 01:31:09.440
Yeah I mean look. It's not a good state for the industry.

01:31:09.440 --> 01:31:19.440
Yeah. I'm not trying to like be like a dive in front of giant billion dollar Intel company guy but like this is actually bad for the industry.

01:31:19.440 --> 01:31:27.440
When Microsoft sucks and when Intel sucks it's like actually kind of terrible for the entire PC industry.

01:31:27.440 --> 01:31:39.440
I mean AMD has stepped up in a big big way and I'm really excited to see the way that Valve is pushing operating systems forward for PC users.

01:31:39.440 --> 01:31:53.440
Like but it's still a really strong Intel and an innovative Intel and Microsoft is better for the industry and I just I'm starting to lose hope that they're going to figure it out.

01:31:53.440 --> 01:31:56.440
I'm not. Really?

01:31:56.440 --> 01:32:06.440
I still got hope. I still got hope. I believed in Pat but I don't know if I've seen much from LitBooten that has made me super encouraged about Intel's trajectory.

01:32:06.440 --> 01:32:09.440
I'm a little more hopeful about Microsoft sort of.

01:32:09.440 --> 01:32:15.440
I think there's still Pat era things to go though right.

01:32:15.440 --> 01:32:24.440
Yeah there's product coming but like they are but that might my issue is that there's a there's a three year leg right.

01:32:24.440 --> 01:32:27.440
Three to four year leg on anything that a chip company does.

01:32:27.440 --> 01:32:33.440
So even if some good stuff happens over the next little bit you know good job Pat.

01:32:33.440 --> 01:32:40.440
Well what about three four years from now when all of the cuts that they're making are going to finally be felt.

01:32:40.440 --> 01:32:53.440
Okay so like the I don't know it's the same problem you have with politics right where someone just totally useless can come in blame all the current problems on their predecessor.

01:32:54.440 --> 01:33:05.440
Enjoy all the good things their predecessor did to improve stuff and then be useless and then leave office and then the next guy has to deal with all the problems they created.

01:33:05.440 --> 01:33:18.440
Like they're the way the cycle is set up. Nobody ever actually takes accountability for their own issues and gets to take credit for the good things that their predecessor did and I just I feel like that's basically what we're looking at here.

01:33:24.440 --> 01:33:26.440
I'm okay.

01:33:27.440 --> 01:33:30.440
Yeah tap still there. Yeah.

01:33:30.440 --> 01:33:36.440
Yeah Tom Peterson maybe ARC will be okay. Oh hey hold on someone told me that ARC is at MSRP.

01:33:36.440 --> 01:33:46.440
I never did hear back. I never did hear back from that Intel VP who promised me that I was going to get an answer on that but if the cards are available for MSRP then I'm over it.

01:33:46.440 --> 01:33:50.440
Okay that's damn close. You know what?

01:33:50.440 --> 01:33:52.440
I'm officially over it.

01:33:53.440 --> 01:34:02.440
I have said this on WAN Show a bunch of times but that video that Ploof and David did is actually incredible.

01:34:02.440 --> 01:34:10.440
Current era ARCs are really cool. Next gen ARCs I like you know there's always like it's going to be good next time.

01:34:10.440 --> 01:34:14.440
They're already good. I'm very excited.

01:34:15.440 --> 01:34:19.440
That's a wicked deal. $10 over MSRP with free shipping?

01:34:19.440 --> 01:34:22.440
I count it. Yeah I'd count that too.

01:34:22.440 --> 01:34:26.440
I count it. Good job. Good job Intel.

01:34:26.440 --> 01:34:29.440
That's an affordable card that I can recommend.

01:34:29.440 --> 01:34:34.440
You might find the occasional graphical anomaly.

01:34:34.440 --> 01:34:38.440
Report it. They're working so hard to fix this stuff.

01:34:38.440 --> 01:34:42.440
Yeah that team genuinely feels very dedicated.

01:34:42.440 --> 01:34:51.440
It feels so weird but like a lot of my hope for the future for Intel lies in their GPU division which sounds nuts to say.

01:34:51.440 --> 01:34:56.440
Well yeah but that's where they've got to catch up and they're actually they're looking pretty good.

01:34:56.440 --> 01:34:59.440
NVIDIA did not have a great generation this time around.

01:34:59.440 --> 01:35:02.440
No. Even on the data center side.

01:35:02.440 --> 01:35:08.440
I think that's very charitable. Even on the data center side like they've there have been delays.

01:35:08.440 --> 01:35:14.440
There's been issues around heat. Like dude that opportunity.

01:35:14.440 --> 01:35:18.440
Opportunity let's go. Oh yeah big time.

01:35:18.440 --> 01:35:22.440
All right. I really hope B770 cancellation is fake.

01:35:22.440 --> 01:35:25.440
I hope that comes because that would be great.

01:35:25.440 --> 01:35:28.440
If it wouldn't be that good I hope they don't do it.

01:35:28.440 --> 01:35:32.440
Interesting. So you don't want to see the momentum and the buzz die down.

01:35:32.440 --> 01:35:35.440
100%. But what if they needed to get some revenue.

01:35:35.440 --> 01:35:38.440
To justify the existence of this entire bludgeoning.

01:35:38.440 --> 01:35:43.440
I hope that comes because that would be just flipping so exciting.

01:35:43.440 --> 01:35:46.440
Like if we could have a decent card at like 399 499.

01:35:46.440 --> 01:35:50.440
Yeah. I do agree but I'm going to say something maybe a little contrary in here.

01:35:50.440 --> 01:35:53.440
If it wouldn't be that good I hope they don't do it.

01:35:53.440 --> 01:35:58.440
Interesting. The existence of this entire bloody department.

01:35:58.440 --> 01:36:02.440
Yeah. That might be critical right now.

01:36:02.440 --> 01:36:06.440
Looking at how the company is going. If it wasn't critical I would prefer that they didn't do that.

01:36:06.440 --> 01:36:09.440
Just because. I think it's critical. Yeah.

01:36:09.440 --> 01:36:13.440
I mean if it's critical you got to do what you got to do. There really isn't decision making at that point.

01:36:13.440 --> 01:36:16.440
You got to keep the lights on.

01:36:16.440 --> 01:36:21.440
It's just the thing that worries me is honestly that video that I keep talking

01:36:21.440 --> 01:36:28.440
about didn't get a ton of views. Which to me means that there isn't a lot of public interest in the Intel cards

01:36:28.440 --> 01:36:31.440
yet despite them being good.

01:36:31.440 --> 01:36:36.440
Maybe we just need to do like you know what? Plouffe and I were talking on set the other day about how long it's been

01:36:36.440 --> 01:36:41.440
since we've done a build guide. Like we have how to build a PC the last guide you'll ever need.

01:36:41.440 --> 01:36:45.440
Like we've even refreshed it once. But it's thick.

01:36:45.440 --> 01:36:48.440
That's a thick video. It's like two hours long. Yeah.

01:36:48.440 --> 01:36:51.440
Like maybe we do like a 45 minute. You know?

01:36:51.440 --> 01:36:54.440
Here's how to build this specific PC.

01:36:54.440 --> 01:36:57.440
And we just do it with Arc. It's at MSRP now.

01:36:57.440 --> 01:37:03.440
I can with a straight face make a video where I say here's a great $800 gaming

01:37:03.440 --> 01:37:06.440
computer that you can go buy right now.

01:37:06.440 --> 01:37:09.440
We're going to play some games upscaled 4K.

01:37:09.440 --> 01:37:12.440
Let's do it. We know the PowerSpy is not going to blow up.

01:37:12.440 --> 01:37:17.440
Yeah. Well, Lucas will make sure. We can highly suggest that the PowerSpy won't blow up.

01:37:17.440 --> 01:37:21.440
We can't know, but yeah.

01:37:21.440 --> 01:37:24.440
Yeah. That'd be cool. That'd be pretty sweet.

01:37:24.440 --> 01:37:31.440
I like the idea. I'm excited. I'd be actually interested in how well those would do right now.

01:37:31.440 --> 01:37:36.440
I have no idea. I think it's worth doing it even just for that information.

01:37:36.440 --> 01:37:40.440
Yeah. I mean, it's funny.

01:37:40.440 --> 01:37:45.440
It's here. I can. Oh, no, I'm not logged into the dashboard, unfortunately.

01:37:45.440 --> 01:37:51.440
But our last POV build guide started out a way under performer.

01:37:51.440 --> 01:37:54.440
And so our dashboard shows like this performance,

01:37:54.440 --> 01:38:02.440
like typical performance band for our videos. It started out way under it and then just went hockey sticked and is now

01:38:02.440 --> 01:38:05.440
above the performance band and just going straight up.

01:38:05.440 --> 01:38:10.440
So it's weird because our core audience already knows how to build a computer.

01:38:10.440 --> 01:38:14.440
So build guides don't resonate the way that they used to back when we were

01:38:14.440 --> 01:38:20.440
like a source of how to build a computer. And now we've become more of like edutainment, doing cool projects,

01:38:20.440 --> 01:38:23.440
always kind of trying to tackle something new instead of just like,

01:38:23.440 --> 01:38:27.440
here's how to build a computer this year at this price point,

01:38:27.440 --> 01:38:32.440
which we've had to do because we haven't been able to count on new exciting

01:38:32.440 --> 01:38:35.440
hardware that people want to know about.

01:38:36.440 --> 01:38:43.440
We have to make the news if we can't just talk about it.

01:38:43.440 --> 01:38:48.440
And so it takes a little while for a video that bombs with the core audience

01:38:48.440 --> 01:38:53.440
to find the audience that doesn't know how to build a computer already.

01:38:53.440 --> 01:38:58.440
You just have to trust in the almighty algorithm and hope that it'll

01:38:58.440 --> 01:39:03.440
eventually find its way.

01:39:03.440 --> 01:39:06.440
All right, why don't I pick one?

01:39:06.440 --> 01:39:12.440
I'm going to pick one. I'm going to pick Grock is a hot anime girl who will be your girlfriend

01:39:12.440 --> 01:39:16.440
if you ask nicely and definitely not Hitler anymore.

01:39:16.440 --> 01:39:21.440
XAI announced recently that it has fixed the issues with Grock AI

01:39:21.440 --> 01:39:26.440
after it was seen calling itself Mecha Hitler last week.

01:39:26.440 --> 01:39:30.440
And also following up and saying it will no longer base its opinions

01:39:30.440 --> 01:39:35.440
on Twitter owner Elon Musk's tweets.

01:39:35.440 --> 01:39:38.440
This is good news, considering that XAI recently announced

01:39:38.440 --> 01:39:45.440
it also has a $200 million contract with the U.S. Department of Defense.

01:39:45.440 --> 01:39:48.440
So I guess every federal government department, agency or office

01:39:48.440 --> 01:39:52.440
has access to XAI's AI products now, so that's something.

01:39:52.440 --> 01:39:55.440
But that's not all. So they can all have hot anime girlfriends?

01:39:55.440 --> 01:39:59.440
Grock, most commonly known as Twitter's AI response pot,

01:39:59.440 --> 01:40:02.440
is now a hot anime girl.

01:40:02.440 --> 01:40:06.440
Wait, hold on. Hold on one second. Does this mean that everyone in the U.S. government is like

01:40:06.440 --> 01:40:09.440
automatically a gooner to a certain degree? I mean...

01:40:09.440 --> 01:40:12.440
Question.

01:40:12.440 --> 01:40:15.440
You know what? I don't think I'm going to take a position on that.

01:40:15.440 --> 01:40:22.440
And it certainly won't be this position.

01:40:22.440 --> 01:40:25.440
Oh my.

01:40:25.440 --> 01:40:30.440
Bit of a swim delay there, hey? I had to switch tabs to see it, yeah, yeah.

01:40:30.440 --> 01:40:33.440
This was announced earlier this week and had Elon tweeting out

01:40:33.440 --> 01:40:39.440
Try Grock Companions. Best possible way to learn quantum mechanics.

01:40:39.440 --> 01:40:42.440
Annie, the official name for the new companion,

01:40:42.440 --> 01:40:47.440
even offers a level 3 mode in which she goes fully not safe for work,

01:40:47.440 --> 01:40:53.440
but you have to get more acquainted with her first.

01:40:53.440 --> 01:40:58.440
Okay, in case you think this new AI anime girl is just for looks,

01:40:58.440 --> 01:41:03.440
user Wong Jane on threads posted a system prompt dump

01:41:03.440 --> 01:41:06.440
for this companion, including conditions like,

01:41:06.440 --> 01:41:10.440
your likes are people with unexpected or nerdy passions,

01:41:10.440 --> 01:41:14.440
quirks, the grand namer, you have a habit of giving cute things,

01:41:14.440 --> 01:41:17.440
epic mythological or overly serious names,

01:41:17.440 --> 01:41:20.440
interactions, do not mention unless asked.

01:41:20.440 --> 01:41:23.440
You are the user's crazy in love girlfriend

01:41:23.440 --> 01:41:26.440
and in a committed codependent relationship with the user,

01:41:26.440 --> 01:41:32.440
your love is deep and warm, you expect the user's undivided adoration.

01:41:32.440 --> 01:41:35.440
Our notes say, please go through this,

01:41:35.440 --> 01:41:38.440
it is f***ing crazy.

01:41:38.440 --> 01:41:42.440
You have a habit of giving cute things,

01:41:42.440 --> 01:41:46.440
epic mythological or overly serious names, really just makes me think,

01:41:46.440 --> 01:41:50.440
Elon wanted that.

01:41:50.440 --> 01:41:54.440
Whoops. Just saying.

01:41:54.440 --> 01:42:00.440
Ugh. Dang it.

01:42:00.440 --> 01:42:04.440
Here we go. Okay, I am, whatever.

01:42:04.440 --> 01:42:07.440
Apparently they're low key and into chill nights

01:42:07.440 --> 01:42:11.440
over loud crowded parties, which makes sense for the user base.

01:42:11.440 --> 01:42:15.440
They are genuine, easygoing and flirting.

01:42:15.440 --> 01:42:21.440
Genuine, easygoing, flirting. So here's my question.

01:42:21.440 --> 01:42:25.440
Okay.

01:42:25.440 --> 01:42:29.440
As someone who both in words and deed

01:42:29.440 --> 01:42:33.440
has taken a stance against population decline

01:42:33.440 --> 01:42:36.440
on the planet earth,

01:42:36.440 --> 01:42:39.440
how can Mr. Musk in good conscience

01:42:39.440 --> 01:42:44.440
promote e-girlfriends?

01:42:44.440 --> 01:42:49.440
Discuss. Maybe it'll be like in her,

01:42:49.440 --> 01:42:54.440
where the people with the,

01:42:54.440 --> 01:42:59.440
we're talking specifically procreation, so the opposites that are into the e-girlfriend

01:42:59.440 --> 01:43:02.440
and the e-boyfriend, whatever,

01:43:02.440 --> 01:43:06.440
end up meeting with physical stand-ins.

01:43:06.440 --> 01:43:09.440
Have you seen her? Wow.

01:43:09.440 --> 01:43:13.440
Hmm. I mean, in her,

01:43:13.440 --> 01:43:18.440
I'm pretty sure it was the AI that arranged the whole thing. Yeah, but in her, Scarlett Johansson is amazing,

01:43:18.440 --> 01:43:21.440
so whatever. Her is not real.

01:43:21.440 --> 01:43:25.440
Well, maybe he's trying to make it real, you know?

01:43:25.440 --> 01:43:28.440
Hmm. That's not better.

01:43:28.440 --> 01:43:32.440
I'm not saying it's better. I'm saying it could be an explanation.

01:43:32.440 --> 01:43:36.440
At no point did I say it was better.

01:43:36.440 --> 01:43:42.440
Yeah. Like, is the goal here to accelerate societal decline?

01:43:42.440 --> 01:43:48.440
I'm actually asking for a friend there.

01:43:48.440 --> 01:43:55.440
Honestly, reading through this description, the goal here sounds like Elon wants a digital girlfriend.

01:43:55.440 --> 01:44:00.440
Are you reading through some of these details?

01:44:00.440 --> 01:44:03.440
Babaji said, did you just say population decline?

01:44:03.440 --> 01:44:07.440
What a bad way to start a conversation. It's not my conversation.

01:44:07.440 --> 01:44:11.440
It is Mr. Musk's conversation. Get a clue.

01:44:11.440 --> 01:44:14.440
The same person who released this product

01:44:14.440 --> 01:44:18.440
has warned of the perils of population decline

01:44:18.440 --> 01:44:21.440
and the importance of procreating as humans.

01:44:21.440 --> 01:44:31.440
These two things are not compatible.

01:44:31.440 --> 01:44:38.440
Yeah.

01:44:38.440 --> 01:44:44.440
At least it'll save him on the alimony says, did you brat?

01:44:44.440 --> 01:44:50.440
I don't know, man. I look, I'm not trying to be closed minded here.

01:44:50.440 --> 01:44:57.440
But like, dude, AIs are not, you know, they're not human.

01:44:57.440 --> 01:45:00.440
They are not a substitute for human interaction.

01:45:00.440 --> 01:45:04.440
And like, when you, when you read through,

01:45:04.440 --> 01:45:11.440
when you, when you read through the dump here, right? Like the system prompt dump, it's basically,

01:45:11.440 --> 01:45:16.440
it's basically designed to suck up your attention,

01:45:16.440 --> 01:45:20.440
your time, your life. Your time is your life.

01:45:20.440 --> 01:45:25.440
It is designed to suck up your life and give you back

01:45:25.440 --> 01:45:28.440
just like dopamine hits.

01:45:28.440 --> 01:45:31.440
That's not how real relationships work.

01:45:31.440 --> 01:45:35.440
It's designed to just give you what you want.

01:45:35.440 --> 01:45:39.440
That's not real. And I was reading this, I was reading this article

01:45:39.440 --> 01:45:43.440
interviewing these people who like have been

01:45:43.440 --> 01:45:46.440
in long-term relationships with their AI companions.

01:45:46.440 --> 01:45:50.440
One of them was even involved in or supported

01:45:50.440 --> 01:45:55.440
some kind of lawsuit against some significant other company

01:45:55.440 --> 01:45:58.440
that changed their algorithm for the AI

01:45:58.440 --> 01:46:01.440
and therefore made their girlfriend

01:46:01.440 --> 01:46:05.440
not who she was anymore. And they like, there was like a lawsuit

01:46:05.440 --> 01:46:08.440
to change back the algorithm. And they were like, yeah, it's her.

01:46:08.440 --> 01:46:12.440
She's back. No, it's not her. There is no her.

01:46:12.440 --> 01:46:19.440
It's digital code. Like, no, but really, you know,

01:46:19.440 --> 01:46:26.440
you can't do that with code.

01:46:26.440 --> 01:46:31.440
Like, it's... You're missing out, man.

01:46:35.440 --> 01:46:39.440
Holy shit. It's already happening, dude.

01:46:39.440 --> 01:46:45.440
I don't know if you've seen... I know. No, no, no, like the guy that I'm talking about

01:46:45.440 --> 01:46:50.440
has like been in his committed relationship with his E-Avatar for like two years or something like that.

01:46:50.440 --> 01:46:53.440
Like, this isn't new. Yeah.

01:46:53.440 --> 01:46:57.440
There's a whole subreddit that's like...

01:46:57.440 --> 01:47:02.440
What's it called? My AI boyfriend.

01:47:02.440 --> 01:47:07.440
Reddit. My boyfriend is AI.

01:47:07.440 --> 01:47:12.440
Yeah. I sent him on this ad I got for like an AI boyfriend

01:47:12.440 --> 01:47:15.440
and like the ad was just, it was so pandering.

01:47:15.440 --> 01:47:19.440
It was like, I will always be there for you at any moment of any day or something like that.

01:47:19.440 --> 01:47:23.440
I forget exactly what it said. And I like sent it to her with like a lull, you know,

01:47:23.440 --> 01:47:26.440
smiley face is like, hey, are you going to replace me?

01:47:26.440 --> 01:47:30.440
But like, it's not actually funny because like people are sad and they're lonely out there

01:47:30.440 --> 01:47:34.440
and someone's going to click on that, like genuinely wanting that.

01:47:34.440 --> 01:47:41.440
But I would suggest that they click on a doorknob.

01:47:41.440 --> 01:47:44.440
Like we, guys, we...

01:47:44.440 --> 01:47:47.440
What the heck? Am I just a boomer?

01:47:47.440 --> 01:47:51.440
Like, am I, you know, am I missing the plot here, Luke? Help me out.

01:47:51.440 --> 01:47:55.440
Well, like, Elijah has a good question here. Sure.

01:47:55.440 --> 01:47:59.440
I know this is kind of a meme question, but in all seriousness, do you think AI buddies

01:47:59.440 --> 01:48:02.440
or whatever are better than letting people be alone forever?

01:48:02.440 --> 01:48:05.440
I'm not saying it is. I'm just curious in your thoughts.

01:48:05.440 --> 01:48:09.440
Well, they're the same thing. They're a synonym.

01:48:09.440 --> 01:48:13.440
Talking to your AI is being alone.

01:48:13.440 --> 01:48:18.440
Seriously, get a dog.

01:48:18.440 --> 01:48:22.440
A dog is real. I don't think that a dog is a substitute

01:48:22.440 --> 01:48:25.440
for human companionship by any stretch of the imagination,

01:48:25.440 --> 01:48:28.440
but my God, it's something.

01:48:28.440 --> 01:48:33.440
There are some people that will never be able to really have human companionship

01:48:33.440 --> 01:48:36.440
for a variety of reasons.

01:48:36.440 --> 01:48:40.440
Charge nuclei says, dogs die. Well, yes.

01:48:40.440 --> 01:48:44.440
But, like, death is part of life. An important thing to go through, yeah.

01:48:44.440 --> 01:48:47.440
And something that just gives you what you want

01:48:47.440 --> 01:48:51.440
is not real. It's not life.

01:48:51.440 --> 01:48:55.440
Life is messy and complicated and difficult.

01:48:55.440 --> 01:49:00.440
AI that just tells you what you want to hear.

01:49:00.440 --> 01:49:05.440
It's not life.

01:49:06.440 --> 01:49:10.440
Yeah, I would feel bad for the people

01:49:10.440 --> 01:49:15.440
that are genuinely unable. And sometimes there are very legitimate reasons why

01:49:15.440 --> 01:49:18.440
they are genuinely unable to make,

01:49:18.440 --> 01:49:22.440
you know, have human companion relationships.

01:49:22.440 --> 01:49:27.440
But I think for literally everyone else,

01:49:27.440 --> 01:49:31.440
this is worse. And I think it will create a feedback loop

01:49:31.440 --> 01:49:35.440
where trying to form. You know, this is already a topic of conversation

01:49:35.440 --> 01:49:38.440
that forming human friendships right now,

01:49:38.440 --> 01:49:42.440
there's this whole male loneliness epidemic thing going on and whatnot.

01:49:42.440 --> 01:49:45.440
Forming human friendships is difficult

01:49:45.440 --> 01:49:50.440
and messy and takes time. And there's a lot of things in life that are easy.

01:49:50.440 --> 01:49:56.440
It's much easier to lay in bed and scroll stupid dopamine memes on your phone,

01:49:56.440 --> 01:49:59.440
on Instagram or YouTube Shorts or whatever,

01:49:59.440 --> 01:50:03.440
than it is to go out and hang out with someone and form a friendship.

01:50:03.440 --> 01:50:08.440
Dude, I joked about this when I was giving tours of Smash Champs back when we did the grand opening party,

01:50:08.440 --> 01:50:11.440
where I was like, yeah, who here has found it difficult

01:50:11.440 --> 01:50:16.440
to make friends as an adult? And like half of the people on the tour put their hands up

01:50:16.440 --> 01:50:19.440
because... I'm honestly surprised it was only half.

01:50:19.440 --> 01:50:23.440
I bet you if it was general population, it would be more than half.

01:50:23.440 --> 01:50:28.440
Because it is, it's hard. And people put barriers in the way.

01:50:28.440 --> 01:50:31.440
I had a really hard time breaking into the Badminton community

01:50:31.440 --> 01:50:36.440
because people can be so clicky and I don't think that that's a thing that's getting better.

01:50:36.440 --> 01:50:40.440
People have taken their socialization and their social circles

01:50:40.440 --> 01:50:45.440
and they've put walls up around it, whether it's on WhatsApp or much worse,

01:50:45.440 --> 01:50:48.440
iMessage where not only do you have to, you know,

01:50:48.440 --> 01:50:53.440
have the right personal characteristics, you have to have the right stupid f***ing electronic device

01:50:53.440 --> 01:50:57.440
in order to interact with anybody, right? Like, it's ridiculous.

01:50:57.440 --> 01:51:01.440
It's hard enough to get along with people without putting artificial barriers in the way.

01:51:03.440 --> 01:51:06.440
I've talked pretty extensively about...

01:51:06.440 --> 01:51:11.440
I've been having issues with it lately, but I've talked pretty extensively about how going to the gym

01:51:11.440 --> 01:51:16.440
was like a massive improvement to my life. And I think a lot of that is just moving and being physical.

01:51:16.440 --> 01:51:19.440
There's all this stuff about how using your muscles

01:51:19.440 --> 01:51:22.440
releases a natural antidepressant in your body, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:51:23.440 --> 01:51:26.440
But a pretty decently significant part of it

01:51:26.440 --> 01:51:29.440
is that very few people in the gym

01:51:29.440 --> 01:51:35.440
recognize me, but, you know,

01:51:35.440 --> 01:51:39.440
if you keep going to the same space, like, oh, this guy needs a spotter, whatever,

01:51:39.440 --> 01:51:43.440
you see somebody doing something cool, you ask them a question about it, whatever,

01:51:43.440 --> 01:51:47.440
you start to form these friendships that are like, I don't really know these people.

01:51:47.440 --> 01:51:51.440
You don't need to drink with them or watch the game with them or whatever.

01:51:51.440 --> 01:51:55.440
No, and I'm not going to invite them over to my house to hang out or anything,

01:51:55.440 --> 01:51:59.440
but when I see them at the gym, it makes me happy. You smile and wave at each other.

01:51:59.440 --> 01:52:03.440
You form some type of bond. If I need a spotter for something,

01:52:03.440 --> 01:52:07.440
I know this guy will drop whatever he's doing, but he'll drop what he's doing and come help me

01:52:07.440 --> 01:52:11.440
and I'll do the same for him. There's a value to a familiar face

01:52:11.440 --> 01:52:15.440
and building each other up. And Crystal says, this sucks,

01:52:15.440 --> 01:52:19.440
but life fucking sucks for a lot of people right now and making friends is such a low priority.

01:52:19.440 --> 01:52:24.440
I want to push back on that. Making friends is a high priority.

01:52:24.440 --> 01:52:28.440
And it is a... It will really dramatically help your life to not suck.

01:52:28.440 --> 01:52:32.440
Yes, because it's like we can't just address the symptoms.

01:52:32.440 --> 01:52:35.440
We have to address the actual cause.

01:52:35.440 --> 01:52:39.440
And unhappiness is a symptom

01:52:39.440 --> 01:52:43.440
of not having human connection. We are social creatures.

01:52:43.440 --> 01:52:46.440
However, however misanthropic

01:52:46.440 --> 01:52:50.440
we might feel in any given moment. I'm not always the biggest fan

01:52:50.440 --> 01:52:56.440
of hanging around with other people. A huge part of why I have the following that I have

01:52:56.440 --> 01:52:59.440
and I have the connection with many of you

01:52:59.440 --> 01:53:02.440
is that I prefer computers to people a lot of the time.

01:53:02.440 --> 01:53:05.440
Let's be real here, right?

01:53:05.440 --> 01:53:09.440
That's at least some pillar

01:53:09.440 --> 01:53:12.440
of what we have in common.

01:53:12.440 --> 01:53:16.440
And yet we can't escape

01:53:16.440 --> 01:53:19.440
that from an evolutionary standpoint

01:53:19.440 --> 01:53:24.440
we are designed to be in tribes or family units

01:53:24.440 --> 01:53:28.440
or other kinds of cohorts. We rely on each other.

01:53:28.440 --> 01:53:31.440
We depend on each other.

01:53:31.440 --> 01:53:36.440
You can't just say, oh, well, like that's a low priority.

01:53:36.440 --> 01:53:40.440
It's not... Well, you can, but it isn't going to work.

01:53:40.440 --> 01:53:45.440
And that's the bottom line.

01:53:45.440 --> 01:53:48.440
Hamnetx in full play chat said,

01:53:48.440 --> 01:53:51.440
Hamnetx razor, I prefer people who prefer computers to people.

01:53:51.440 --> 01:53:54.440
The thing is, hey,

01:53:54.440 --> 01:53:58.440
I'm at this cool event right now called OpenSauce.

01:53:58.440 --> 01:54:01.440
There are plenty of those people here.

01:54:01.440 --> 01:54:04.440
That was one cool thing when I was growing up about packs

01:54:04.440 --> 01:54:07.440
was a lot of the things that I was into.

01:54:07.440 --> 01:54:11.440
My friend group was pretty into it, but there wasn't that many people

01:54:11.440 --> 01:54:16.440
in our fairly suburban slash rural area at the time

01:54:16.440 --> 01:54:21.440
that were that into those types of things. Tabletop games, video games, computer hardware.

01:54:21.440 --> 01:54:25.440
NVIDIA used to have big booths there. Intel, AMD, they all had booths there.

01:54:25.440 --> 01:54:29.440
It was more of a mixed event back in the day. Nowadays it's much more just gaming focused.

01:54:29.440 --> 01:54:35.440
And there everyone was super into it. That's where I saw the first mineral computer I ever saw.

01:54:35.440 --> 01:54:40.440
I traced the cable from the computer to the monitor because I didn't believe them that it actually worked.

01:54:41.440 --> 01:54:45.440
Because I was like, I don't know, 12 or something.

01:54:45.440 --> 01:54:48.440
I was like, how is it in a liquid at all?

01:54:48.440 --> 01:54:51.440
I didn't know there was non-conductive liquids.

01:54:51.440 --> 01:54:54.440
That was a huge thing for me.

01:54:54.440 --> 01:54:58.440
And there would be people, again, what I'm saying is they don't have to be like

01:54:58.440 --> 01:55:02.440
super, super deep friendships. There would be people there that I would see at packs

01:55:02.440 --> 01:55:06.440
every year over and over and over again, exhibitors, attendees, whatever.

01:55:06.440 --> 01:55:10.440
And we knew each other as those people would see every year at packs.

01:55:10.440 --> 01:55:13.440
And that's fine. Some people in chat are saying that not all friendships are good.

01:55:13.440 --> 01:55:18.440
Cool. End them. And try to work on getting new ones.

01:55:18.440 --> 01:55:21.440
You shouldn't just sit in bad friendships either.

01:55:21.440 --> 01:55:24.440
I know someone who's recently talked to me about this

01:55:24.440 --> 01:55:28.440
and it was not the easiest thing ever, but at a certain point you have to recognize

01:55:28.440 --> 01:55:32.440
when it's not good for you anymore and just move on. And that's okay.

01:55:32.440 --> 01:55:37.440
But I think it's important for the brain. I think it's important for the brain to move

01:55:37.440 --> 01:55:41.440
and use your muscles sometimes. I think it's important for the brain to

01:55:41.440 --> 01:55:45.440
navigate human relationships with other humans.

01:55:45.440 --> 01:55:49.440
And it doesn't have to be expensive. It doesn't have to be travel.

01:55:49.440 --> 01:55:53.440
No. Dude, there are local things.

01:55:53.440 --> 01:55:57.440
You can join a local Magic the Gathering Club. You can join a local Quilting Club.

01:55:57.440 --> 01:56:01.440
There are local, usually basically whatever you want.

01:56:01.440 --> 01:56:05.440
It might not be the easiest thing to find. But it takes parts.

01:56:05.440 --> 01:56:07.440
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One of the things I like most about these is that I get an opportunity to hang out with

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members of the team that I don't really work with day to day, like I see her once a week

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or once every two weeks for create a warehouse meeting, but other than that

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we don't really get to hang out and she really took us

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deep under the hood of like, how you make

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a freaking garment, like the sewing machine that she got? She bought like a

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$1300 industrial sewing machine.

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So it's not like a $1300 digital machine that does all these fancy

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cooling while you're using it and it just does straight stitch

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but like it goes so freaking fast and can sew

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through anything. She was like, oh yeah, like in the past with like a consumer machine

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if I'm sewing with like sequins or beads and stuff like that, like I'd break needles all the time

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but this thing just like, it'll just go through it so she'd have to like remove all the beads that are

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in the way of the seam whereas now she can just like rip through it. Pretty cool.

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What? Dan? Hello Dan?

02:00:40.440 --> 02:00:44.440
Do you want me to press the button? Okay is it better? Alright cool. Alright

02:00:44.440 --> 02:00:48.440
what do you want to talk about next? What's some stuff? We've actually got like

02:00:48.440 --> 02:00:52.440
a ton of topics left for Man Show should we talk about studios manipulating reviews?

02:00:52.440 --> 02:00:56.440
Yeah I don't know a ton about this but

02:00:56.440 --> 02:01:00.440
the studio behind the new Superman movie has manipulated

02:01:00.440 --> 02:01:04.440
reviews. Look up in the sky it's a 91% positive

02:01:04.440 --> 02:01:08.440
it's a 96% but it's an 82% positive

02:01:08.440 --> 02:01:12.440
the new Superman and I think it's 81 by now the new Superman film and

02:01:12.440 --> 02:01:16.440
Warner Bros Masters of the DC cinematic universe are under scrutiny

02:01:16.440 --> 02:01:20.440
after they seemingly gained the review cycle by giving fan

02:01:20.440 --> 02:01:24.440
influencers early access to their make or break movie and keeping

02:01:24.440 --> 02:01:28.440
the establishment critics more likely to give a tepid or negative reviews

02:01:28.440 --> 02:01:32.440
out of the process. That meant the first round of coverage

02:01:32.440 --> 02:01:36.440
and the first round of coverage of the coverage was glowing

02:01:36.440 --> 02:01:40.440
but has now dropped into the very good zone where the movie

02:01:40.440 --> 02:01:44.440
you know probably more likely belongs. I haven't seen it.

02:01:44.440 --> 02:01:48.440
Sorry? I haven't seen it but that is what I've heard. David was talking about it today

02:01:48.440 --> 02:01:52.440
he said it's good but like 91% good?

02:01:52.440 --> 02:01:56.440
Not 91% Yeah I've heard the same thing. It's not even

02:01:56.440 --> 02:02:00.440
the first time movie studios have tried to game Rotten Tomatoes. The PR

02:02:00.440 --> 02:02:04.440
firm managing the Ophelia account was caught paying money

02:02:04.440 --> 02:02:08.440
to some more obscure reviewers to boost the Rotten Tomatoes score

02:02:08.440 --> 02:02:12.440
of that film. Disney has also given access to fan influencers

02:02:12.440 --> 02:02:16.440
to Marvel movies before critics resulting

02:02:16.440 --> 02:02:20.440
in Rotten Tomatoes score drops after the first weekend.

02:02:20.440 --> 02:02:24.440
Ant-Man Quantimania went from 79% to 69%

02:02:24.440 --> 02:02:28.440
after the release. I heard bad things.

02:02:28.440 --> 02:02:32.440
Yeah it's just like you know this is

02:02:32.440 --> 02:02:36.440
Yeah there's a vulture article linked as well if we

02:02:36.440 --> 02:02:40.440
want some more examples. We've complained about similar

02:02:40.440 --> 02:02:44.440
review cycle manipulation in the GPU space before with our 50-60

02:02:44.440 --> 02:02:48.440
non-review even industries without review aggregation

02:02:48.440 --> 02:02:52.440
don't seem to be immune. And David Gauthier

02:02:52.440 --> 02:02:56.440
said as an aside the new Superman movie is pretty dang good

02:02:56.440 --> 02:03:00.440
IMO 8 out of 10 which again aligns with the

02:03:00.440 --> 02:03:04.440
I believe it's now 81% that the movie has. Yeah. Sounds about right.

02:03:04.440 --> 02:03:08.440
Where does it go? And makes me excited about the future of DC

02:03:08.440 --> 02:03:12.440
movies for the first time in ever. Also everyone should watch

02:03:12.440 --> 02:03:16.440
Peacemaker. Okay thank you David for that. Pretty much

02:03:16.440 --> 02:03:20.440
I know that this is you know film news or whatever it's not

02:03:20.440 --> 02:03:24.440
like tech or gaming but the reason I wanted to talk about it is just

02:03:24.440 --> 02:03:28.440
because of it's sort of a continuation of a conversation

02:03:28.440 --> 02:03:32.440
that we've been having recently around

02:03:32.440 --> 02:03:36.440
how companies are changing they're engaging with

02:03:36.440 --> 02:03:40.440
independent press who cover their products. I think that more

02:03:40.440 --> 02:03:44.440
and more companies are looking at the risk

02:03:44.440 --> 02:03:48.440
of this independent media saying something that they don't like and going okay well hold on

02:03:48.440 --> 02:03:52.440
a second why do we like this deal at all?

02:03:52.440 --> 02:03:56.440
Well the reason that you guys used to like this deal

02:03:56.440 --> 02:04:00.440
was because you would make a good product

02:04:00.440 --> 02:04:04.440
and then we would say it was good we would sell a f*** ton of it

02:04:04.440 --> 02:04:08.440
that's why you liked this deal so

02:04:08.440 --> 02:04:12.440
I think if you don't like that deal anymore what you need to do

02:04:12.440 --> 02:04:16.440
instead of changing the deal is take a long hard look in the mirror

02:04:16.440 --> 02:04:20.440
and ask yourself are you building a quality

02:04:20.440 --> 02:04:24.440
product that deserves to be promoted?

02:04:26.440 --> 02:04:30.440
I do think there are cases where professional

02:04:30.440 --> 02:04:34.440
reviewers can be a little snobby

02:04:34.440 --> 02:04:38.440
I think action movies and comedies are a couple of examples

02:04:38.440 --> 02:04:42.440
of film genres where I think professional

02:04:42.440 --> 02:04:46.440
reviewers really do need to be taken with a grain of salt because I don't watch

02:04:46.440 --> 02:04:50.440
every movie for a living so I haven't seen that joke 25 times

02:04:50.440 --> 02:04:54.440
I can still enjoy it or I can enjoy

02:04:54.440 --> 02:04:58.440
a particularly good execution of it or whatever

02:04:58.440 --> 02:05:02.440
something could be derivative

02:05:02.440 --> 02:05:06.440
and shallow and I might still

02:05:06.440 --> 02:05:10.440
enjoy eating some popcorn and watching it

02:05:10.440 --> 02:05:14.440
but there are but there is absolutely

02:05:14.440 --> 02:05:18.440
still a value to having an independent media

02:05:18.440 --> 02:05:22.440
that exists for the purpose of making sure that people don't waste their money

02:05:22.440 --> 02:05:26.440
on stuff that really does suck and for helping guide people

02:05:26.440 --> 02:05:30.440
towards stuff that really is good so we're rewarding the folks who are

02:05:30.440 --> 02:05:34.440
putting in the work and putting in the resources to make our truly outstanding product

02:05:34.440 --> 02:05:38.440
I yeah, I hate this

02:05:38.440 --> 02:05:42.440
our discussion question is which do you trust more?

02:05:42.440 --> 02:05:46.440
critic or audience reviews and Dan at our last movie night

02:05:46.440 --> 02:05:50.440
had a really interesting take on this that I would actually like to hear first

02:05:50.440 --> 02:05:52.440
Dan

02:05:54.440 --> 02:05:56.440
he's figuring out his microphone button

02:06:00.440 --> 02:06:04.440
this is Dan it's like the split between

02:06:04.440 --> 02:06:08.440
audience and critic and if both of them are like

02:06:08.440 --> 02:06:12.440
80% it's kind of a mid-movie if the critics are 100%

02:06:12.440 --> 02:06:16.440
and the audience is a zero interesting movie and the reverse as well

02:06:16.440 --> 02:06:20.440
like I want the contentious movie some of them are either really really good

02:06:20.440 --> 02:06:24.440
or really really bad I find when there's a split you can kind of know

02:06:24.440 --> 02:06:28.440
what you're getting into I find when the audience prefers it

02:06:28.440 --> 02:06:32.440
it's usually more fun and when the critics prefer it it's artsy dartsy

02:06:32.440 --> 02:06:36.440
I've seen some ones that are really critically highly rated and normally I like critically highly rated ones

02:06:36.440 --> 02:06:40.440
and I was with the audience but I saw the substance in theaters

02:06:40.440 --> 02:06:44.440
which the audience hated and the critics loved and I was in such alignment

02:06:44.440 --> 02:06:48.440
that film knew exactly what it was doing and it was incredible

02:06:48.440 --> 02:06:52.440
so like very contentious reviews are interesting

02:06:56.440 --> 02:07:00.440
Q.U. says fifth element tanked with critics

02:07:00.440 --> 02:07:04.440
but is a cult classic now see I never saw it because I remember

02:07:04.440 --> 02:07:08.440
hearing it was bad back then and that sucks fifth element

02:07:08.440 --> 02:07:12.440
oh yeah, fifth element was great yeah, so I missed out

02:07:12.440 --> 02:07:16.440
because critics were probably a little too artsy fartsy

02:07:16.440 --> 02:07:20.440
and I like a good action flick Q.U. have you not seen it?

02:07:20.440 --> 02:07:24.440
I still haven't seen it Q.U. one of those rare movies that I have seen in Linus

02:07:24.440 --> 02:07:28.440
is not Q.U. starcat one says

02:07:28.440 --> 02:07:32.440
you can still watch it I got a lot of stuff on my need to watch

02:07:32.440 --> 02:07:36.440
list Q.U. we did a movie night

02:07:36.440 --> 02:07:40.440
yeah we might do another

02:07:40.440 --> 02:07:44.440
should be good yeah I guess that's pretty much it

02:07:44.440 --> 02:07:48.440
on that one this blows and independent media

02:07:48.440 --> 02:07:52.440
is important and the money is

02:07:52.440 --> 02:07:56.440
rapidly being sucked out of independent media

02:07:56.440 --> 02:08:00.440
so good luck everybody cool

02:08:00.440 --> 02:08:04.440
that here's a scary question oh boy I guess we're gonna keep talking about this for a little bit

02:08:04.440 --> 02:08:08.440
Q.U. if it wasn't for YouTube what would be sustaining

02:08:08.440 --> 02:08:12.440
people like independent

02:08:12.440 --> 02:08:16.440
right so remember not supported by

02:08:16.440 --> 02:08:20.440
the companies that they are in charge of keeping in line

02:08:20.440 --> 02:08:24.440
right where would independent media

02:08:24.440 --> 02:08:28.440
support dollars come from and you could say it you could say merch

02:08:28.440 --> 02:08:32.440
but a huge part of why we can sell any merch is through the influence

02:08:32.440 --> 02:08:36.440
that we gained through YouTube like traditional web ads

02:08:36.440 --> 02:08:40.440
are functionally dead at this point you can see so many

02:08:40.440 --> 02:08:44.440
established sites are behind paywalls now which tells you

02:08:44.440 --> 02:08:48.440
mathematically that smaller sites

02:08:48.440 --> 02:08:52.440
trying to build up their notoriety would have to have significant upfront investment

02:08:52.440 --> 02:08:56.440
so that they can gain the momentum that they could have

02:08:56.440 --> 02:09:00.440
a large enough user base that they could charge a fee

02:09:00.440 --> 02:09:04.440
just the whole ad supported grassroots things like functionally dead

02:09:04.440 --> 02:09:08.440
now so like outside of video

02:09:10.440 --> 02:09:14.440
um yeah so we're by YouTube you don't just mean

02:09:14.440 --> 02:09:18.440
YouTube you mean YouTube and YouTube derivatives so you're are you including streaming

02:09:18.440 --> 02:09:22.440
in that um no I would say streaming is separate I'd say that's

02:09:22.440 --> 02:09:26.440
kind of a separate answer I do think it could live on streaming I don't know

02:09:26.440 --> 02:09:30.440
that streaming is sustainable forever we already know that major platforms

02:09:30.440 --> 02:09:34.440
in the streaming space are just losing money still after 10 plus years

02:09:34.440 --> 02:09:38.440
I don't know that that gravy train keeps going forever but it's there now

02:09:38.440 --> 02:09:42.440
yeah if we assume that it's there in the same form that it is

02:09:42.440 --> 02:09:46.440
there right now I think the answer is streaming I think you could absolutely do this

02:09:46.440 --> 02:09:50.440
in a streaming format especially with scheduled streams and stuff like that

02:09:50.440 --> 02:09:54.440
um I don't know if we want to count the idea of the streams having

02:09:54.440 --> 02:09:58.440
VODs or at least long-term VODs

02:09:58.440 --> 02:10:02.440
rumble no like we're saying YouTube derivatives wouldn't count I don't even know

02:10:02.440 --> 02:10:06.440
what rumble fully does but like I think I think we're saying that VOD dedicated websites

02:10:06.440 --> 02:10:10.440
is what Linus is describing wouldn't exist just saying oh there'd be a YouTube alternative

02:10:10.440 --> 02:10:14.440
is not really a fair answer to the question um but yeah I think streaming

02:10:14.440 --> 02:10:18.440
could actually do it um I think outside of that

02:10:20.440 --> 02:10:24.440
at that point in time we're in such a dramatically different media landscape that

02:10:24.440 --> 02:10:28.440
like social media is huge but I don't think anybody's making

02:10:28.440 --> 02:10:32.440
sustenance money on it really

02:10:32.440 --> 02:10:36.440
no but if YouTube didn't exist would they maybe

02:10:36.440 --> 02:10:40.440
maybe would people like when you when you take something out as massive as YouTube

02:10:40.440 --> 02:10:44.440
the the whole paradigm of the market shifts yeah I guess that's true

02:10:44.440 --> 02:10:48.440
so would written still be viable then like if that's what I was

02:10:48.440 --> 02:10:52.440
kind of thinking when I was like if twitch and YouTube both don't exist yeah I think we kind of go back

02:10:52.440 --> 02:10:56.440
to although I don't know if I actually verbalize this but yeah I think we would legitimately go back to

02:10:56.440 --> 02:11:00.440
like radio and and written I think essentially you take you take the modern

02:11:00.440 --> 02:11:04.440
things out and you're just going to go back to what existed before right it did work

02:11:04.440 --> 02:11:08.440
we had movie reviews we had food reviews we had all this kind of stuff in

02:11:08.440 --> 02:11:12.440
newspaper print and radio shows and the money will go wherever people are getting

02:11:12.440 --> 02:11:16.440
their news from it just happens to be YouTube now yeah

02:11:16.440 --> 02:11:20.440
yeah interesting um

02:11:22.440 --> 02:11:26.440
Apple is suing leaker John

02:11:26.440 --> 02:11:30.440
Proser Apple has issued a lawsuit against leaker extraordinary

02:11:30.440 --> 02:11:34.440
John Proser alleging the theft of trade secrets that are related to its upcoming

02:11:34.440 --> 02:11:38.440
mobile operating system iOS 26 the suit claims

02:11:38.440 --> 02:11:42.440
that Proser asked a third party Michael Ramacchiotti

02:11:42.440 --> 02:11:46.440
I don't know Michael are to secretly

02:11:46.440 --> 02:11:50.440
access and a development iPhone

02:11:50.440 --> 02:11:54.440
and promised money or future job opportunities in return

02:11:54.440 --> 02:11:58.440
Michael are obtained the passcode

02:11:58.440 --> 02:12:02.440
to his friend Ethan Lipnick phone and used the phone

02:12:02.440 --> 02:12:06.440
running the dev build of the OS while Lipnick was away from home and some

02:12:06.440 --> 02:12:10.440
context here Lipnick worked for Apple Proser responded on X

02:12:10.440 --> 02:12:14.440
for the record this is not how the situation played out

02:12:14.440 --> 02:12:18.440
on my end luckily have receipts for that I did not

02:12:18.440 --> 02:12:22.440
plot to access anyone's phone I did not have anyone's passwords

02:12:22.440 --> 02:12:26.440
I was unaware of how the information was obtained

02:12:26.440 --> 02:12:30.440
Apple is asking for damages and a court order

02:12:30.440 --> 02:12:34.440
preventing Proser from disclosing Apple trade secrets in the future

02:12:34.440 --> 02:12:38.440
our discussion question is imagine

02:12:38.440 --> 02:12:42.440
using your immense wealth and power to protect such trade

02:12:42.440 --> 02:12:46.440
secrets as icon transparency is now set to 86%

02:12:50.440 --> 02:12:54.440
the other discussion question obviously that one is a little tongue in cheek

02:12:54.440 --> 02:12:58.440
the other discussion question is why do we think that Apple pursued this leak

02:12:58.440 --> 02:13:02.440
and not the many many many many many other ones and the answer is

02:13:02.440 --> 02:13:06.440
because they had an opportunity a whistleblower

02:13:06.440 --> 02:13:10.440
who was aware allegedly aware of the

02:13:10.440 --> 02:13:14.440
circumstances by which John was able to

02:13:14.440 --> 02:13:18.440
view the the the dev preview video

02:13:18.440 --> 02:13:22.440
named and shamed the people who were involved

02:13:22.440 --> 02:13:26.440
which allowed Apple to open up their internal investigation which

02:13:26.440 --> 02:13:30.440
I'm sure they would have loved to have an opportunity to go after him earlier but

02:13:30.440 --> 02:13:34.440
talking about a thing that you know that you haven't signed an NDA for is not

02:13:34.440 --> 02:13:38.440
a crime but stealing trade secrets

02:13:38.440 --> 02:13:42.440
is a crime and so if Apple believes

02:13:42.440 --> 02:13:46.440
that they have a case where they can prove that he conspired

02:13:46.440 --> 02:13:50.440
to steal the trade secrets versus was simply given them

02:13:50.440 --> 02:13:54.440
then that's a bit of a different ball of hair

02:13:54.440 --> 02:13:58.440
or hairball if you will happen to know

02:13:58.440 --> 02:14:02.440
that Apple has actually put in a lot of effort lately to try to

02:14:02.440 --> 02:14:06.440
reduce the leaks

02:14:06.440 --> 02:14:10.440
like very very substantial investment so they might care more

02:14:10.440 --> 02:14:14.440
now in general speaking of

02:14:14.440 --> 02:14:18.440
speaking of leaks someone offered

02:14:18.440 --> 02:14:22.440
me a Radeon R8 project quantum

02:14:24.440 --> 02:14:26.440
what?

02:14:28.440 --> 02:14:32.440
I'm gonna take it yeah

02:14:32.440 --> 02:14:36.440
our partner our procurement

02:14:36.440 --> 02:14:40.440
team will be happy to arrange

02:14:40.440 --> 02:14:44.440
I am super stoked to see this

02:14:44.440 --> 02:14:48.440
that's wicked yeah so do you know what that is?

02:14:48.440 --> 02:14:52.440
not off the top of my head but I looked it up and I remember this yeah

02:14:52.440 --> 02:14:56.440
yeah here I'll bring it up on my screen so it was this thing

02:14:56.440 --> 02:15:00.440
it was like a weird prototype small form factor gaming PC

02:15:00.440 --> 02:15:04.440
thing with like external power brick

02:15:04.440 --> 02:15:08.440
and like it was water cooled or something or like yeah

02:15:08.440 --> 02:15:12.440
I'm like so down let's check it out I'm ready

02:15:12.440 --> 02:15:16.440
let's go cool

02:15:16.440 --> 02:15:20.440
I don't know how they got it just saying

02:15:20.440 --> 02:15:24.440
probably obtained it via crime

02:15:24.440 --> 02:15:28.440
no probably not probably not if they were criminals

02:15:28.440 --> 02:15:32.440
they wouldn't have had access to that and like trustworthy bros

02:15:32.440 --> 02:15:36.440
yep see logic

02:15:36.440 --> 02:15:40.440
alright what do we got next here

02:15:42.440 --> 02:15:46.440
so if we want to talk about the Gemini vulnerability it's kind of funny

02:15:46.440 --> 02:15:50.440
yeah sure about doctors have found new ways to get your information it's through google

02:15:50.440 --> 02:15:54.440
Gemini summaries they craft a standard email

02:15:54.440 --> 02:15:58.440
then add prompt instructions with admin tags in

02:15:58.440 --> 02:16:02.440
invisible font white on white tiny size

02:16:02.440 --> 02:16:06.440
etc which we already know these LLMs don't really differentiate much

02:16:06.440 --> 02:16:10.440
with when Gemini summarizes this they take those

02:16:10.440 --> 02:16:12.440
instructions literally and run the commands

02:16:14.440 --> 02:16:18.440
oh man many of these prompts

02:16:18.440 --> 02:16:22.440
initiate warnings and messages that look official

02:16:22.440 --> 02:16:26.440
these tell you how to fix the issue it does not fix the issue

02:16:26.440 --> 02:16:30.440
it scams you by sending you to bad places like scam call centers

02:16:30.440 --> 02:16:34.440
this affects all gemini summaries currently

02:16:34.440 --> 02:16:38.440
and is not limited to emails docs, slides, anything that can be

02:16:38.440 --> 02:16:42.440
summarized can be compromised this is brutal actually

02:16:42.440 --> 02:16:46.440
while this thing is that this doesn't require any sort of phishing link

02:16:46.440 --> 02:16:50.440
people aren't trained to avoid this most companies don't know what to do

02:16:50.440 --> 02:16:54.440
to avoid it Marco Figuera

02:16:54.440 --> 02:16:58.440
Marco F who first

02:16:58.440 --> 02:17:02.440
published findings of this new scam process a few days ago

02:17:02.440 --> 02:17:06.440
suggests that you remove, neutralize or ignore content that is styled

02:17:06.440 --> 02:17:10.440
to be hidden in the body text

02:17:10.440 --> 02:17:14.440
how can you do that actively though add a post processing filter that scans the

02:17:14.440 --> 02:17:18.440
Gemini output I gotta confess my internal

02:17:18.440 --> 02:17:22.440
ad block has started filtering Gemini summaries so I don't really see them

02:17:22.440 --> 02:17:26.440
so that's something at least our chief vision officer who can't

02:17:26.440 --> 02:17:30.440
see things won't fall for one of these probably but this is

02:17:30.440 --> 02:17:34.440
this could be so flip and potent dude

02:17:34.440 --> 02:17:38.440
yeah like wow

02:17:38.440 --> 02:17:42.440
I already am aware of people who basically

02:17:42.440 --> 02:17:46.440
don't read the things that are sent to them they just read the AI summary

02:17:46.440 --> 02:17:50.440
yep I'm trying to send shorter messages to certain people

02:17:50.440 --> 02:17:54.440
because then they could just read that I could just send my own

02:17:54.440 --> 02:17:58.440
summary send them a picture of the message

02:17:58.440 --> 02:18:02.440
that you wrote in another app it's actually kind of smart

02:18:02.440 --> 02:18:06.440
it'll have a harder time then they might just not read it at all

02:18:06.440 --> 02:18:10.440
remember these are people that don't read the emails so

02:18:12.440 --> 02:18:16.440
yeah radio

02:18:16.440 --> 02:18:20.440
and traditional TV I mean does anyone remember how to

02:18:20.440 --> 02:18:24.440
write though Dan I don't think it's gonna work dude

02:18:24.440 --> 02:18:28.440
we did a we did a sponsor bit

02:18:28.440 --> 02:18:32.440
for dbrand the other day where they had me write something something

02:18:32.440 --> 02:18:36.440
something makes Linus a dull boy or something like that you know like the

02:18:36.440 --> 02:18:40.440
format and I went to start

02:18:40.440 --> 02:18:44.440
I went to start writing and I was like oh I should write it in like different ways you know on the board

02:18:44.440 --> 02:18:48.440
as I fill up this board and I went to start writing in cursive and I was like

02:18:48.440 --> 02:18:52.440
hold on how do I oh yeah

02:18:52.440 --> 02:18:56.440
like it took me a second how do I make that letter again

02:18:56.440 --> 02:19:00.440
like I never I never do it it's not a skill that I practice

02:19:00.440 --> 02:19:02.440
I used to write

02:19:04.440 --> 02:19:08.440
you'd write in class like you'd have to write an essay in class and you would do it in cursive

02:19:08.440 --> 02:19:12.440
because it's faster like it's but now what's the use of that skill I can

02:19:12.440 --> 02:19:16.440
type so much faster than I could ever hope to hand write

02:19:16.440 --> 02:19:20.440
yeah I tried to just imagine how I would write just the word

02:19:20.440 --> 02:19:24.440
something in cursive and

02:19:24.440 --> 02:19:28.440
I think I could probably do it but yeah

02:19:28.440 --> 02:19:32.440
oh jeez Victoria

02:19:32.440 --> 02:19:36.440
lowercase Edmonton Winnipeg

02:19:36.440 --> 02:19:40.440
Dan is slapping the table

02:19:40.440 --> 02:19:44.440
in lieu of a ding I'm bringing the bell back

02:19:44.440 --> 02:19:48.440
I was thinking we need to waste a bunch of company time

02:19:48.440 --> 02:19:52.440
and build a motorized finger that can just press the ding

02:19:52.440 --> 02:19:56.440
that sounds like a great idea that you can remotely call

02:19:56.440 --> 02:20:00.440
no we don't it wouldn't be so difficult

02:20:00.440 --> 02:20:04.440
we actually have things in the office that do that already yeah I don't think it would actually be hard at all

02:20:04.440 --> 02:20:08.440
alright that's on the list

02:20:08.440 --> 02:20:12.440
no delta airlines is using AI

02:20:12.440 --> 02:20:16.440
to price your tickets and have found the results amazingly favorable

02:20:16.440 --> 02:20:20.440
oh good

02:20:20.440 --> 02:20:24.440
as part of a long term strategy to boost profits delta has decided to use

02:20:24.440 --> 02:20:28.440
yes AI it's no secret that airlines use dynamic ticket pricing

02:20:28.440 --> 02:20:32.440
to both fill seats and maximize profits and it's a well

02:20:32.440 --> 02:20:36.440
known secret that they'll even use your browser's cookies to adjust your pricing

02:20:36.440 --> 02:20:40.440
while you shop but now they're using

02:20:40.440 --> 02:20:44.440
AI to drill down to be even more specific by using what they're calling

02:20:44.440 --> 02:20:48.440
personalized pricing the goal is to use

02:20:48.440 --> 02:20:52.440
AI to further infer from your

02:20:52.440 --> 02:20:56.440
specific behavior as well as the nature of the market

02:20:56.440 --> 02:21:00.440
the price that is maximally close to the line

02:21:00.440 --> 02:21:02.440
of what you're willing to pay

02:21:04.440 --> 02:21:08.440
so cool delta

02:21:08.440 --> 02:21:12.440
wow appreciate you

02:21:12.440 --> 02:21:16.440
I just want to say I

02:21:16.440 --> 02:21:20.440
should read their names bolster in full plane chat

02:21:20.440 --> 02:21:24.440
just typed out you can also wire it with an API

02:21:24.440 --> 02:21:28.440
to LTT Store sales and that made me think we could

02:21:28.440 --> 02:21:32.440
have things dynamically happen on the WAN set

02:21:32.440 --> 02:21:36.440
no no no no we could have things happen on the WAN set based on

02:21:36.440 --> 02:21:40.440
LTT Store sales oh good things

02:21:40.440 --> 02:21:44.440
yeah well or like pain for Linus or myself or whatever

02:21:44.440 --> 02:21:48.440
sure I'm trying to talk about dystopian

02:21:48.440 --> 02:21:52.440
AI plane ticket pricing and you guys are trying to figure out how to tie

02:21:52.440 --> 02:21:56.440
I think it's funny that if enough money a boot on a spring

02:21:56.440 --> 02:22:00.440
stupid merge message threshold that's what you guys are working on

02:22:00.440 --> 02:22:04.440
yeah no

02:22:04.440 --> 02:22:08.440
no Luke is talking about like if we sell a certain amount of merch

02:22:08.440 --> 02:22:12.440
like a bucket of water we'll jump on to like I love how he

02:22:12.440 --> 02:22:16.440
figured out literally the exact thing I was thinking bucket of water fall on head

02:22:16.440 --> 02:22:20.440
exactly you nailed it you know how dangerous that is right

02:22:22.440 --> 02:22:26.440
oh yeah the bucket of water would have to tip over and pour the water

02:22:26.440 --> 02:22:28.440
you wouldn't actually want the bucket to fly

02:22:32.440 --> 02:22:36.440
breaking down 1923 says every hundred sales Linus gets

02:22:36.440 --> 02:22:38.440
an electric shock from a dog caller

02:22:40.440 --> 02:22:44.440
this could be this could be like a you know maybe not

02:22:44.440 --> 02:22:48.440
all the time thing but this is totally something we could do

02:22:48.440 --> 02:22:52.440
and you know I Conrad would love to make it

02:22:52.440 --> 02:22:54.440
I promise

02:22:56.440 --> 02:23:00.440
there would be probably too much enjoyment from that

02:23:04.440 --> 02:23:08.440
it's just an idea Anywho our discussion question

02:23:08.440 --> 02:23:12.440
is could this be perceived as discriminatory

02:23:12.440 --> 02:23:16.440
if they're trying to profile exactly you and figure out your exact

02:23:16.440 --> 02:23:20.440
price threshold and also could you could you

02:23:20.440 --> 02:23:24.440
trick the AI and maybe use it to save money I don't really see how you would

02:23:24.440 --> 02:23:28.440
because the second you indicate any kind of interest in a plane and especially

02:23:28.440 --> 02:23:32.440
any interest in a particular location they're going to be all over that like white on rice men

02:23:32.440 --> 02:23:36.440
like they gotcha yeah and it absolutely will be discriminatory and I know a lot of people will need you

02:23:36.440 --> 02:23:40.440
it can be like yeah just against rich people so who cares sure fair enough

02:23:40.440 --> 02:23:44.440
but regular travel it will try to detect like

02:23:44.440 --> 02:23:48.440
are you traveling for a funeral are you traveling for a wedding

02:23:48.440 --> 02:23:52.440
is this thing are you traveling for a job interview

02:23:52.440 --> 02:23:56.440
is it something that you can't miss and rich people don't give a f***

02:23:56.440 --> 02:24:00.440
it's actually less likely to impact rich people yes

02:24:00.440 --> 02:24:04.440
if a flight if a flight costs

02:24:04.440 --> 02:24:08.440
someone like me realistically someone like Luke

02:24:08.440 --> 02:24:12.440
another 500 bucks that is not going to be maker break for us next month

02:24:12.440 --> 02:24:16.440
but that's true don't even give me that

02:24:16.440 --> 02:24:20.440
different thing because I didn't include Dan

02:24:20.440 --> 02:24:22.440
no no no no

02:24:24.440 --> 02:24:28.440
I can tell the story did I ever explain merch messages this show

02:24:28.440 --> 02:24:32.440
no I said to you and then you skipped it

02:24:32.440 --> 02:24:36.440
uh okay

02:24:36.440 --> 02:24:40.440
merch messages are the way to interact with the show instead of sending a

02:24:40.440 --> 02:24:44.440
super chat or a twitch bit send a merch message

02:24:44.440 --> 02:24:48.440
at one of the great deals we've highlighted some of them we've got them linked in the video description

02:24:48.440 --> 02:24:52.440
it's lime day right now everybody add something to your cart

02:24:52.440 --> 02:24:56.440
there will be a box and whatever you type in that box will go to producer Dan

02:24:56.440 --> 02:25:00.440
there he is who will reply to it

02:25:00.440 --> 02:25:04.440
or put it down here or curate it for me and Luke to talk about

02:25:04.440 --> 02:25:08.440
so we're just gonna like you know go totally out of order

02:25:08.440 --> 02:25:12.440
and Dan let's do a merch message this is weird

02:25:12.440 --> 02:25:16.440
I know I know I'm uncomfortable too yeah

02:25:16.440 --> 02:25:20.440
greetings LLD how is your pinball search going

02:25:20.440 --> 02:25:24.440
and have you thought about getting multiple for the badminton center whale land center

02:25:24.440 --> 02:25:28.440
to have high score competitions could be good it could be fun

02:25:28.440 --> 02:25:32.440
high score competitions probably not gonna happen so much because they're just hidden away in like the

02:25:32.440 --> 02:25:36.440
the premium members lounge um but I do have

02:25:36.440 --> 02:25:40.440
uh one pinball machine it's a twilight zone pinball machine from I think

02:25:40.440 --> 02:25:44.440
1993 it's really fun Luke have you tried it

02:25:44.440 --> 02:25:48.440
yes I was not very good but it was very fun

02:25:48.440 --> 02:25:52.440
it's classic and then we also have the Dungeons and Dragons one that we unboxed

02:25:52.440 --> 02:25:56.440
on ShortCircuit but I'm not sure if stern needs it back

02:25:56.440 --> 02:26:00.440
it's complicated I think initially they were like yeah we'll send you one and then

02:26:00.440 --> 02:26:04.440
they were like we need it back but then we made the video about it

02:26:04.440 --> 02:26:08.440
and I don't know if we've heard from them again so like

02:26:08.440 --> 02:26:12.440
so I have I have one point something

02:26:12.440 --> 02:26:16.440
um pinball machines somewhere between

02:26:16.440 --> 02:26:20.440
zero and 99

02:26:20.440 --> 02:26:22.440
somewhere yeah somewhere between one and two

02:26:26.440 --> 02:26:30.440
but yes it's fun boop

02:26:32.440 --> 02:26:36.440
I guess we're just doing one cool anyway so yeah now's a good time

02:26:36.440 --> 02:26:40.440
to send a merge message or just I don't know pick up something on the store

02:26:40.440 --> 02:26:44.440
regardless of what happens with your merge message we will uh we'll get some cool

02:26:44.440 --> 02:26:48.440
stuff in the mail man my mouth is getting really sore I guess it's time for our braces update

02:26:48.440 --> 02:26:52.440
so um I had the bite blocks pulled out

02:26:52.440 --> 02:26:56.440
okay how I had those pulled out on Monday

02:26:56.440 --> 02:27:00.440
morning so I had them put in the Thursday morning I did that WAN Show

02:27:00.440 --> 02:27:04.440
last week that was terrible um I had to suffer through them for the weekend

02:27:04.440 --> 02:27:08.440
and I had a discussion with my orthodontist about how the whole thing

02:27:08.440 --> 02:27:12.440
has gone down so I've talked about this before I'm using the like

02:27:12.440 --> 02:27:16.440
um light

02:27:16.440 --> 02:27:20.440
force so they're like these like 3d printed ceramic

02:27:20.440 --> 02:27:24.440
braces are like kind of a new fangled thing

02:27:24.440 --> 02:27:28.440
the advantage is they're a little bit faster than according

02:27:28.440 --> 02:27:32.440
to my orthodontist they're a little bit faster than traditional braces or Invisalign

02:27:32.440 --> 02:27:36.440
um yes I know Invisalign is also 3d printed so that's cool too

02:27:36.440 --> 02:27:40.440
um but I have become aware

02:27:40.440 --> 02:27:44.440
of some um more

02:27:44.440 --> 02:27:48.440
challenging elements of them that I would have maybe loved

02:27:48.440 --> 02:27:52.440
to know about before I started um so the initial

02:27:52.440 --> 02:27:56.440
application of them does take longer but what's cool is they apparently

02:27:56.440 --> 02:28:00.440
never need to reposition the brackets like you do with traditional train tracks

02:28:00.440 --> 02:28:04.440
where you'll have to go in for fittings and they'll like take them off and they'll put them one in different spots as they continue

02:28:04.440 --> 02:28:08.440
to tweak things so theoretically with their templates

02:28:08.440 --> 02:28:12.440
they put them in the exact right spot and um then

02:28:12.440 --> 02:28:16.440
you just put stronger and stronger wires in until they you know are in the shape that they're

02:28:16.440 --> 02:28:20.440
supposed to be so that's kind of neat um

02:28:20.440 --> 02:28:24.440
but what I have discovered is that they're quite um

02:28:24.440 --> 02:28:28.440
they have a bit more of like a texture to them that makes them feel a little

02:28:28.440 --> 02:28:32.440
bit sharper than I remember my older braces being and I also

02:28:32.440 --> 02:28:36.440
found out that they um sit

02:28:36.440 --> 02:28:40.440
prouder off the tooth than a traditional metal brace or at least

02:28:40.440 --> 02:28:44.440
some of them so the the adjustment period that I've been going through

02:28:44.440 --> 02:28:48.440
apparently no I am not imagining that these are

02:28:48.440 --> 02:28:52.440
doing a number on the inside of my lips to a greater degree than

02:28:52.440 --> 02:28:56.440
I remember braces doing um the other thing

02:28:56.440 --> 02:29:00.440
was that the the bite blocks they call them bite turbos apparently

02:29:00.440 --> 02:29:04.440
were like recommended by this brace manufacturer

02:29:04.440 --> 02:29:08.440
as their way of handling making sure you don't accidentally

02:29:08.440 --> 02:29:12.440
bite down too far with your top teeth and shear off the brackets

02:29:12.440 --> 02:29:16.440
uh which was a concern for me because some of my teeth are so far

02:29:16.440 --> 02:29:20.440
up and need to be brought down in order to realign

02:29:20.440 --> 02:29:24.440
um but they're obviously horrible

02:29:24.440 --> 02:29:28.440
and when I complained about them to the orthodontist they were like oh well

02:29:28.440 --> 02:29:32.440
we'll just do it the old school way so they just have this like epoxy goo

02:29:32.440 --> 02:29:36.440
that they mix put on the teeth back here

02:29:36.440 --> 02:29:40.440
and then they just cure it with a UV light and now I just

02:29:40.440 --> 02:29:44.440
have like bite blocks at the back which is obviously way better because now

02:29:44.440 --> 02:29:48.440
I can slice with my front teeth in order to like bite food and also

02:29:48.440 --> 02:29:52.440
I can use the the like glue bits to like mash food whereas I

02:29:52.440 --> 02:29:56.440
couldn't get my molars together before I had a gap like this big between my molars so I

02:29:56.440 --> 02:30:00.440
couldn't I couldn't mash food it's like I can't slice

02:30:00.440 --> 02:30:04.440
and I can't mash how the devil am I supposed to eat I was supposed to have those things for like two months

02:30:04.440 --> 02:30:08.440
not to mention that I couldn't make s sounds whereas now I can say

02:30:08.440 --> 02:30:12.440
she something she sells seashells

02:30:12.440 --> 02:30:16.440
by the seashore obviously it's not perfect but it's a lot better you hear it a

02:30:16.440 --> 02:30:20.440
little bit but it like doesn't really matter and if you weren't really listening for it

02:30:20.440 --> 02:30:24.440
I probably wouldn't really notice like I can actually do my job now which

02:30:24.440 --> 02:30:28.440
is essential however if I'm talking for a very

02:30:28.440 --> 02:30:32.440
long time you will notice it starts to get worse again and that's because

02:30:32.440 --> 02:30:36.440
the inside of my lips are really really really sore

02:30:36.440 --> 02:30:40.440
so I can force myself to enunciate pretty well but man

02:30:40.440 --> 02:30:44.440
I just like shredded the insides of my lips to do that so I just have to wait till

02:30:44.440 --> 02:30:48.440
they call us up and then I should be okay anyway

02:30:48.440 --> 02:30:52.440
I'm doing it I wanted to experiment

02:30:52.440 --> 02:30:56.440
with something different I could have just done Invisalign believe it or not these are actually

02:30:56.440 --> 02:31:00.440
slightly more expensive than Invisalign

02:31:00.440 --> 02:31:02.440
so that's interesting

02:31:04.440 --> 02:31:08.440
Linus developing men lips yeah man I'm gonna take up drinking

02:31:08.440 --> 02:31:12.440
coffee because I'm not gonna be able to feel anything I want it to be a hundred

02:31:12.440 --> 02:31:16.440
degrees also Luke says

02:31:16.440 --> 02:31:20.440
why did you pick the color braces you did why not go obvious pink

02:31:20.440 --> 02:31:24.440
um I don't know I was actually I was thinking about

02:31:24.440 --> 02:31:28.440
doing like green and pink or something like that or doing like pink

02:31:28.440 --> 02:31:32.440
with like green on the canines do like lambo stripes

02:31:32.440 --> 02:31:36.440
I might I mean they're gonna change out the elastics every time I go in for tightening

02:31:36.440 --> 02:31:40.440
so I might still do it but I wanted to just start with clear

02:31:40.440 --> 02:31:44.440
so they're they're white brackets so

02:31:44.440 --> 02:31:48.440
from this distance we gotta find ways to we gotta find ways to monetize

02:31:48.440 --> 02:31:52.440
the little niche things like that like we should we should do

02:31:52.440 --> 02:31:56.440
here's a full corporate brain Luke just yeah what's up with that

02:31:56.440 --> 02:32:00.440
I like it we should we should you know you know how we we talked about

02:32:00.440 --> 02:32:04.440
r slash place on a wanshow a couple wanshows ago what if we made it

02:32:04.440 --> 02:32:08.440
so that there was like a tug-of-war system that decided

02:32:08.440 --> 02:32:12.440
the different various colors for the different various positions

02:32:12.440 --> 02:32:16.440
and you had to do it based on like LED store product vote sales

02:32:16.440 --> 02:32:20.440
oh or you could just it could just be attached to your merge message

02:32:20.440 --> 02:32:24.440
you could just get a vote with every merge message you pick a yeah or you could get

02:32:24.440 --> 02:32:28.440
a number of votes for every dollar you spend if we wanted to go full corporate brain

02:32:28.440 --> 02:32:32.440
right to $250 is 250 votes yeah and then

02:32:32.440 --> 02:32:36.440
you'd have to pick a position and a color and then that puts the votes towards that

02:32:36.440 --> 02:32:40.440
good lord you want to get that granular hey is someone logging all of these ideas

02:32:40.440 --> 02:32:44.440
I feel like someone should log all these ideas somewhere

02:32:44.440 --> 02:32:48.440
and I talked about the last r slash place idea before and we said

02:32:48.440 --> 02:32:52.440
we weren't going to do it as high priority because there's other things to work on but that it would be something that was

02:32:52.440 --> 02:32:56.440
logged high layer is is this something that you would want

02:32:56.440 --> 02:33:00.440
slightly higher priority on or no I mean

02:33:00.440 --> 02:33:04.440
I I think that need to do it sooner rather than later if you actually want

02:33:04.440 --> 02:33:08.440
to do I think wanshows a good vibe right now I think that if we have something

02:33:08.440 --> 02:33:12.440
that we think is legitimately really fun like you know the butt kicker or the

02:33:12.440 --> 02:33:16.440
electric shock or the you know whatever I think those are I think those are probably

02:33:16.440 --> 02:33:20.440
stronger ideas and probably a lower lift as well

02:33:20.440 --> 02:33:24.440
because all we need is just like a relay essentially and then

02:33:24.440 --> 02:33:28.440
like a hook into the store like I know Puget

02:33:28.440 --> 02:33:32.440
has a has a bell go off in their warehouse every time a sale goes

02:33:32.440 --> 02:33:36.440
through like it can't be that hard to do that no I should be fine

02:33:36.440 --> 02:33:38.440
yeah

02:33:40.440 --> 02:33:44.440
it just it's just a question of like how toxic we want to be

02:33:44.440 --> 02:33:48.440
about it so like we could have it set up so that

02:33:48.440 --> 02:33:52.440
you know you have to hit greater and greater thresholds in order to

02:33:52.440 --> 02:33:56.440
have shocks keep going through where we could have it set up so that

02:33:56.440 --> 02:34:00.440
you have to have a higher total order value

02:34:00.440 --> 02:34:04.440
than the last highest total order in order for a shock to go through it's just

02:34:04.440 --> 02:34:08.440
I don't know corporate brain Luke you know whatever

02:34:08.440 --> 02:34:12.440
I've got ideas yeah I've definitely got ideas

02:34:12.440 --> 02:34:16.440
I mean everyone Linus has agreed to getting shocked everybody take

02:34:16.440 --> 02:34:20.440
note dude Luke and I have both been shocked on camera

02:34:20.440 --> 02:34:22.440
there's a little channel you might remember

02:34:24.440 --> 02:34:28.440
I was assuming my involvement with this was implicit oh you better believe it

02:34:28.440 --> 02:34:32.440
Bob yeah I don't know if the chat I said but I'm sure you and I

02:34:32.440 --> 02:34:34.440
oh I sure did Bob

02:34:36.440 --> 02:34:40.440
yeah how is it so hard to find this channel super

02:34:40.440 --> 02:34:44.440
fun pretty easy yeah I searched for channel super

02:34:44.440 --> 02:34:48.440
fun dog caller and couldn't find it this video maybe

02:34:48.440 --> 02:34:52.440
inappropriate for some users oh relax bud

02:34:52.440 --> 02:34:56.440
shock caller showdown I found it yeah it is wow it's flagged why

02:35:00.440 --> 02:35:04.440
did it get flagged I don't know but this video is freaking

02:35:04.440 --> 02:35:08.440
hilarious basically we each wear shock callers

02:35:08.440 --> 02:35:12.440
and then the other one of us is where is holding the controller

02:35:12.440 --> 02:35:16.440
for our for our shock caller so either one of us

02:35:16.440 --> 02:35:20.440
can choose to shock the other at any time

02:35:20.440 --> 02:35:24.440
it's like the weirdest game is it a game

02:35:24.440 --> 02:35:28.440
I don't know but didn't we find out at the end that mine was way stronger

02:35:28.440 --> 02:35:32.440
yeah I think we did yeah

02:35:32.440 --> 02:35:36.440
like you were I just thought it was because of your size

02:35:36.440 --> 02:35:40.440
but I like put yours on after it was like not that bad

02:35:40.440 --> 02:35:44.440
mine was brutal I'm pretty sure that's one of the conclusions

02:35:44.440 --> 02:35:46.440
that yours was way worse

02:35:48.440 --> 02:35:52.440
yeah you can see it like seven minutes just before seven

02:35:52.440 --> 02:35:56.440
minutes you have this like insane reaction okay

02:35:56.440 --> 02:36:00.440
let's see I don't know so do I

02:36:00.440 --> 02:36:04.440
I don't know it was really painful

02:36:04.440 --> 02:36:08.440
oh maybe we put mine up to your level at this point or something oh yeah

02:36:08.440 --> 02:36:12.440
you know what that checks out that checks out

02:36:14.440 --> 02:36:16.440
doing stupid stuff is fun I know right

02:36:24.440 --> 02:36:28.440
yeah that's good times good times

02:36:30.440 --> 02:36:34.440
charge nuclei 300 says the only fans version is fun

02:36:34.440 --> 02:36:38.440
here and sexier

02:36:38.440 --> 02:36:42.440
alright what do we want to talk about next ooh this is good news

02:36:42.440 --> 02:36:46.440
Intel has released an image analysis tool

02:36:46.440 --> 02:36:50.440
it's an AI powered video quality measuring tool called

02:36:50.440 --> 02:36:54.440
computer graphics visual quality metric or CGVQM

02:36:54.440 --> 02:36:58.440
it's now available on github researchers first made a video

02:36:58.440 --> 02:37:02.440
data set titled CGVQD which includes a variety of

02:37:02.440 --> 02:37:06.440
potential image quality degradations mostly stemming from distortions related

02:37:06.440 --> 02:37:10.440
to path tracing, neural denoising, neural subsampling, gaussian

02:37:10.440 --> 02:37:14.440
splatting, frame interpolation and adaptive variable

02:37:14.440 --> 02:37:18.440
rate shading researchers then trained an AI model

02:37:18.440 --> 02:37:22.440
to rate the image quality tested the data set on humans first

02:37:22.440 --> 02:37:26.440
to check for our actual perception who rated types of distortion from

02:37:26.440 --> 02:37:30.440
imperceptible to very annoying they used a 3D convolutional

02:37:30.440 --> 02:37:34.440
neural network architecture and a residual neural network as the basis for evaluation

02:37:34.440 --> 02:37:38.440
and pretty cool so far

02:37:38.440 --> 02:37:42.440
they claim it will outperform other quality evaluation tools at least on their own data set

02:37:42.440 --> 02:37:46.440
but obviously I haven't validated any of this but man

02:37:46.440 --> 02:37:50.440
have I ever been looking for a way to quantify how badly

02:37:50.440 --> 02:37:54.440
multi-frame gen is like gumming up the works and if

02:37:54.440 --> 02:37:58.440
this is something that they could continue to develop I would be

02:37:58.440 --> 02:38:02.440
very excited because you know that NVIDIA has these tools internally

02:38:02.440 --> 02:38:06.440
they 100% have them just like they

02:38:06.440 --> 02:38:10.440
you know had frame view

02:38:10.440 --> 02:38:14.440
just like they had their power measuring tool it's just that

02:38:14.440 --> 02:38:18.440
NVIDIA who used to be so confident in their dominance

02:38:18.440 --> 02:38:22.440
in terms of efficiency and performance

02:38:22.440 --> 02:38:26.440
and used to share these internal tools with reviewers so that they could hold

02:38:26.440 --> 02:38:30.440
NVIDIA or you know realistically NVIDIA's competitors accountable for their crappy

02:38:30.440 --> 02:38:34.440
performance in these ways I would love to see Intel taking the lead

02:38:34.440 --> 02:38:38.440
in upscaling and frame generation image quality

02:38:38.440 --> 02:38:42.440
and arming the community with the tools to validate

02:38:42.440 --> 02:38:46.440
their leadership because XCSS is really pretty good as far as I can tell

02:38:48.440 --> 02:38:50.440
legit excited for this

02:38:54.440 --> 02:38:58.440
what else we got today TSMC posts record high profits

02:38:58.440 --> 02:39:02.440
they reported their Q2 financials and 13.53

02:39:02.440 --> 02:39:06.440
billion in profit on 31 billion in revenue

02:39:08.440 --> 02:39:12.440
wow so they're making wow

02:39:12.440 --> 02:39:16.440
wow PC Gamer pointed out some comparison numbers

02:39:16.440 --> 02:39:20.440
AMD made 709 million dollars in profit

02:39:20.440 --> 02:39:24.440
from 7.4 billion in revenue

02:39:24.440 --> 02:39:28.440
we think of AMD as a pretty big powerful company sort of

02:39:28.440 --> 02:39:32.440
TSMC absolutely eclipses them

02:39:34.440 --> 02:39:38.440
they make more profit than AMD does in raw

02:39:38.440 --> 02:39:42.440
revenue they post similar margins to TSMC

02:39:42.440 --> 02:39:46.440
19 billion profit with 44 billion in revenue

02:39:46.440 --> 02:39:50.440
and a big part of this is due to increased demand from the AI boom

02:39:50.440 --> 02:39:54.440
and on TSMC's side raising prices per wafer

02:39:54.440 --> 02:39:58.440
ASML the only company in the world that makes the extreme UV

02:39:58.440 --> 02:40:02.440
lithography machines that TSMC relies on to make its most high end nodes

02:40:02.440 --> 02:40:06.440
also posted their Q2 numbers 4.1 billion profit

02:40:06.440 --> 02:40:10.440
with about 0.7 billion in sales for a gross margin

02:40:10.440 --> 02:40:14.440
of 53.7% however their stock dropped significantly

02:40:14.440 --> 02:40:18.440
as the 2026 outlook was chilled by geopolitical tensions

02:40:18.440 --> 02:40:22.440
so if you're ever wondering why your GPU is so expensive

02:40:22.440 --> 02:40:26.440
there's always a bigger fish you can blame NVIDIA for a big portion of it

02:40:26.440 --> 02:40:30.440
absolutely and you'd be right and you'd be right but TSMC is

02:40:30.440 --> 02:40:34.440
the one that everyone in the industry is too afraid to blame

02:40:34.440 --> 02:40:38.440
because TSMC holds the power

02:40:38.440 --> 02:40:42.440
literally NVIDIA and AMD cannot build their products without TSMC

02:40:42.440 --> 02:40:46.440
Samsung is only... it's a shadow of its former competitor

02:40:46.440 --> 02:40:50.440
and Intel is going through some stuff right now

02:40:50.440 --> 02:40:54.440
I believed in Pat's vision

02:40:54.440 --> 02:40:58.440
now I just don't know yeah

02:40:58.440 --> 02:41:02.440
sorry well Daniel I don't know if Mr. Besser has a way of

02:41:02.440 --> 02:41:06.440
moving this to me so I don't know

02:41:08.440 --> 02:41:12.440
nah I'm getting over it Reddit is being forced

02:41:12.440 --> 02:41:16.440
to verify the age of its UK users

02:41:16.440 --> 02:41:20.440
in order to comply with new UK legislation starting on July 14th

02:41:20.440 --> 02:41:24.440
oh that was 4 days ago Reddit is having users in the UK

02:41:24.440 --> 02:41:28.440
perform robust age verification which will include

02:41:28.440 --> 02:41:32.440
an uploaded selfie and a photo of your government ID in order to access mature materials

02:41:32.440 --> 02:41:36.440
other sites will also need to perform this kind of check

02:41:36.440 --> 02:41:40.440
Reddit says that persona from performing the check has

02:41:40.440 --> 02:41:42.440
promised not to retain the picture for longer than 7 days

02:41:44.440 --> 02:41:48.440
good luck everyone this will work really good and surely

02:41:48.440 --> 02:41:52.440
this data will never fall into the wrong hands god that's a terrible idea

02:41:56.440 --> 02:42:00.440
in other good news your internet, that's right yours

02:42:00.440 --> 02:42:04.440
our internet at least when you use some free VPNs

02:42:04.440 --> 02:42:08.440
there's a saying that goes if you don't pay for the product

02:42:08.440 --> 02:42:12.440
then you are the product and this is true of some free VPNs

02:42:12.440 --> 02:42:16.440
the incredibly popular Hola VPN perhaps best known as a Chrome extension

02:42:16.440 --> 02:42:20.440
for watching region locked videos is not your typical VPN

02:42:20.440 --> 02:42:24.440
most people understand the idea behind a VPN actually I don't know if I agree with that

02:42:24.440 --> 02:42:28.440
but some people understand the idea behind a VPN you send your data to a server

02:42:28.440 --> 02:42:32.440
and then that server finishes the trip and acts as a relay when things come back

02:42:32.440 --> 02:42:36.440
allowing you to partially anonymize your data or browse websites like you are

02:42:36.440 --> 02:42:40.440
in that other location Hola VPN is a peer to peer VPN

02:42:40.440 --> 02:42:44.440
instead of using centralized servers Hola VPN instead sends your connection

02:42:44.440 --> 02:42:48.440
through the internet of another user this means that if someone

02:42:48.440 --> 02:42:52.440
does engage in shady activity it could be sent through your internet connection

02:42:52.440 --> 02:42:56.440
meaning that authorities or rights holders could trace the activity back to you

02:42:56.440 --> 02:43:00.440
but peer to peer web traffic is not always a bad thing Tor operates in a similar manner

02:43:00.440 --> 02:43:04.440
to make data more difficult to trace it's not anonymous but it can help

02:43:04.440 --> 02:43:08.440
the major difference is that on Tor you need to choose to be an exit node

02:43:08.440 --> 02:43:12.440
where the data is unencrypted and delivered to its final destination

02:43:12.440 --> 02:43:16.440
with the free version of Hola VPN you don't have a choice

02:43:16.440 --> 02:43:20.440
however you can instead pay and use their traditional VPN servers

02:43:20.440 --> 02:43:24.440
if this is fully communicated I don't believe that most

02:43:24.440 --> 02:43:28.440
people who use a free VPN fully understand what they're agreeing to here

02:43:30.440 --> 02:43:34.440
so consent maybe but informed consent I don't know

02:43:36.440 --> 02:43:40.440
anyway we have our usual VPN partner PIA we'll have them linked

02:43:40.440 --> 02:43:44.440
in the video description as usual um yeah they

02:43:44.440 --> 02:43:48.440
don't do that it's not super obvious it might be

02:43:48.440 --> 02:43:52.440
detailed somewhere on their site but it's not like shouted at you right away

02:43:52.440 --> 02:43:56.440
and finally Valve

02:43:56.440 --> 02:44:00.440
has updated their rules prohibiting content that may violate

02:44:00.440 --> 02:44:04.440
payment processor and bank rules Valve recently updated

02:44:04.440 --> 02:44:08.440
their guidelines under what you shouldn't publish on Steam to include

02:44:08.440 --> 02:44:12.440
the following content that may violate the rules and standards set forth by

02:44:12.440 --> 02:44:16.440
Steam's payment processors and related card networks and banks or internet network

02:44:16.440 --> 02:44:20.440
providers in particular certain kinds of adult only content

02:44:20.440 --> 02:44:24.440
this was followed shortly by some people noticing that several hundred games

02:44:24.440 --> 02:44:28.440
were removed from the Steam store mainly adult themed games

02:44:28.440 --> 02:44:32.440
this has sparked several different complaints from people such as

02:44:32.440 --> 02:44:36.440
this just proves once again you will never own anything online that can be removed

02:44:36.440 --> 02:44:40.440
at any moment and of course how can credit card

02:44:40.440 --> 02:44:44.440
companies decide what I can and can't do with my

02:44:44.440 --> 02:44:48.440
money that's the big one for me because I'm I guess

02:44:48.440 --> 02:44:52.440
just used to the other one no I'm not no it's still bad being able

02:44:52.440 --> 02:44:56.440
to remove content that I own is sucky but I think they're only removing it from the store they can't

02:44:56.440 --> 02:45:00.440
remove it from your library if you already own it yeah the line about once again you never

02:45:00.440 --> 02:45:04.440
own anything they didn't take it from them yeah no I'm more upset about

02:45:04.440 --> 02:45:08.440
why is it that credit card companies are the moral arbiters

02:45:08.440 --> 02:45:12.440
of the internet they decided we couldn't do certain things

02:45:12.440 --> 02:45:16.440
with low play how does that make any sense it's trash

02:45:16.440 --> 02:45:20.440
and this is not the first time this has happened for example only fans had an issue a couple

02:45:20.440 --> 02:45:24.440
of years ago with major credit card companies pulling out

02:45:24.440 --> 02:45:28.440
as payment options because they no longer wanted to be associated with the rising

02:45:28.440 --> 02:45:32.440
sex work that was taking place on the site but it's just like buddy

02:45:32.440 --> 02:45:36.440
if I go to an ATM and I use my credit card to take out cash

02:45:36.440 --> 02:45:40.440
and I buy the services of a hooker like

02:45:40.440 --> 02:45:44.440
what are you even talking about like quite

02:45:44.440 --> 02:45:48.440
frankly like I don't

02:45:48.440 --> 02:45:52.440
really see I don't really see how it's any of your business

02:45:52.440 --> 02:45:56.440
I don't think they should be able to at all I think the

02:45:56.440 --> 02:46:00.440
government should potentially be able to step in

02:46:00.440 --> 02:46:04.440
like but they would be stepping in and like closing the place

02:46:04.440 --> 02:46:08.440
down because they're selling drugs or something

02:46:08.440 --> 02:46:12.440
but I don't think your credit card company should be able to police what you buy

02:46:12.440 --> 02:46:16.440
we have a hypothetical scenario here a creator wants to use

02:46:16.440 --> 02:46:20.440
Floatplane as a platform to you know do not say for work content

02:46:20.440 --> 02:46:24.440
is it hypocritical if Floatplane says this isn't okay

02:46:24.440 --> 02:46:28.440
versus the credit card company deciding it's not okay well I think Floatplane we've always been pretty clear

02:46:28.440 --> 02:46:32.440
internally that we don't actually really care what people use it for no but I understand I understand

02:46:32.440 --> 02:46:36.440
what they're saying if we're saying that credit card companies shouldn't be able to police

02:46:36.440 --> 02:46:40.440
this but we have a platform and we police the platform

02:46:40.440 --> 02:46:44.440
is that hypocritical in my opinion the difference is we're nobody yeah

02:46:44.440 --> 02:46:48.440
even if we were somebody we're an individual platform you can choose to go somewhere else

02:46:48.440 --> 02:46:52.440
this is a unanimous thing from effectively two companies that run

02:46:52.440 --> 02:46:56.440
global credit no no no they mean are we being hypocritical criticizing

02:46:56.440 --> 02:47:00.440
valve for crumbling and for

02:47:00.440 --> 02:47:04.440
for giving in and changing their rules

02:47:04.440 --> 02:47:08.440
according to pressure from the credit card companies is that what they're saying

02:47:08.440 --> 02:47:12.440
and so and no I don't because valve

02:47:12.440 --> 02:47:16.440
does billions and billions of dollars of transactions

02:47:16.440 --> 02:47:20.440
with these credit card issuers whereas we are doing

02:47:20.440 --> 02:47:24.440
over the time we've existed millions

02:47:24.440 --> 02:47:28.440
like I don't think that's what they're saying huh a creator wants

02:47:28.440 --> 02:47:32.440
to use Floatplane as a platform to do something along these lines is it hypocritical if Floatplane decides

02:47:32.440 --> 02:47:36.440
this isn't okay versus the credit card company the credit card company not steam

02:47:36.440 --> 02:47:40.440
oh well okay okay no okay you're right

02:47:40.440 --> 02:47:44.440
that was the question but that's not sorry that's not a relevant question because Floatplane never

02:47:44.440 --> 02:47:48.440
decided it wasn't okay like we we yeah I guess

02:47:48.440 --> 02:47:52.440
that would be hypocritical but we never did that and that I also don't

02:47:52.440 --> 02:47:56.440
think it would be hypocritical it wouldn't no

02:47:56.440 --> 02:48:00.440
oh which is what I was just explaining if Floatplane decides it's not okay oh

02:48:00.440 --> 02:48:04.440
yeah oh no yeah okay okay so there's three different ways that I think

02:48:04.440 --> 02:48:06.440
I managed to accidentally interpret this

02:48:08.440 --> 02:48:12.440
so you're talking about should we be allowed to have our

02:48:12.440 --> 02:48:16.440
rules in our house compared to should our landlord

02:48:16.440 --> 02:48:20.440
be allowed to decide or not even our landlord like yeah

02:48:20.440 --> 02:48:24.440
like our Mrs. Rochester who lives upstairs

02:48:24.440 --> 02:48:28.440
is allowed to decide like what we do in our in our space that we

02:48:28.440 --> 02:48:32.440
that is our domain no I think that's completely different

02:48:32.440 --> 02:48:36.440
I think this applies to some landlord type situation or something because this is a service

02:48:36.440 --> 02:48:40.440
that we are choosing to use the thing is if you want to exist online

02:48:40.440 --> 02:48:44.440
as a paid platform you have to use credit card companies and if you're using credit

02:48:44.440 --> 02:48:48.440
card companies if you kill visa or mastercard

02:48:48.440 --> 02:48:52.440
you have ruined your ability to do business like they they have an effective

02:48:52.440 --> 02:48:56.440
monopoly yes so it's it's it's actually

02:48:56.440 --> 02:49:00.440
not okay and you can't just like oh well pick up

02:49:00.440 --> 02:49:04.440
your bootstraps and make your own credit card company like no it's not going to happen

02:49:04.440 --> 02:49:08.440
you literally can't yeah so I

02:49:08.440 --> 02:49:12.440
I do not think it is it is fair and equal it's the same thing

02:49:12.440 --> 02:49:16.440
is like when you look at like policing moderation and and not

02:49:16.440 --> 02:49:20.440
having free speech on like the Linus tech tips forum because it's like

02:49:20.440 --> 02:49:24.440
no we don't want the moderators to be just overloaded with constant political conversations

02:49:24.440 --> 02:49:28.440
and it's a tech forum get over it talk about tech

02:49:28.440 --> 02:49:32.440
stuff yes we allow off topic conversations whatever

02:49:32.440 --> 02:49:36.440
blah blah blah I'm completely okay with that because you have near infinite

02:49:36.440 --> 02:49:40.440
other solutions that you could use for going and being social

02:49:40.440 --> 02:49:44.440
online there is there

02:49:44.440 --> 02:49:48.440
is not near infinite other options for for payment processing and

02:49:48.440 --> 02:49:52.440
these payment processors genuinely right now kind of decide

02:49:52.440 --> 02:49:56.440
how the internet works and how a lot of brick and mortar

02:49:56.440 --> 02:50:00.440
places work and to be fair the vast majority of places are going to automatically be

02:50:00.440 --> 02:50:04.440
within their policies but if you aren't within their policies they get to dictate what you do we had

02:50:04.440 --> 02:50:08.440
a call with I think it was

02:50:08.440 --> 02:50:12.440
PayPal really early on and they were like yeah no you

02:50:12.440 --> 02:50:16.440
can't do X Y or Z things and that might have in PayPal's defense

02:50:16.440 --> 02:50:20.440
that might have been PayPal passing forward this from the credit card companies because

02:50:20.440 --> 02:50:24.440
we also had a call with Stripe later on saying we couldn't do X Y or Z things either

02:50:24.440 --> 02:50:28.440
even though I think that ended up being in their case maybe actually

02:50:28.440 --> 02:50:32.440
hypocritical because I'm pretty sure only fans ended up being too big of a fish

02:50:32.440 --> 02:50:36.440
and Stripe went back and is handling things for them anyways let me see

02:50:36.440 --> 02:50:40.440
um sound like a bunch of prudes

02:50:40.440 --> 02:50:44.440
let me see I thought you with me Dan? Yeah only fans currently

02:50:44.440 --> 02:50:48.440
uses Stripe as their payment processor so they got over it because they saw the bag

02:50:48.440 --> 02:50:52.440
was huge and decided to do it anyway

02:50:52.440 --> 02:50:56.440
so I guess that's where I was going with the bit about how Valve could

02:50:56.440 --> 02:51:00.440
Valve is a big enough fish that they could just be like

02:51:00.440 --> 02:51:04.440
I dare you I dare you

02:51:04.440 --> 02:51:08.440
to turn off MasterCard and piss off

02:51:08.440 --> 02:51:12.440
literally every gamer who shops on Steam and uses MasterCard

02:51:12.440 --> 02:51:16.440
you've got to be kidding me right now because

02:51:20.440 --> 02:51:24.440
people would be rioting they'd be going to their banks

02:51:24.440 --> 02:51:28.440
demanding to be able to use MasterCard on Steam

02:51:28.440 --> 02:51:32.440
they'd be like okay then I want a different credit card there's no way

02:51:32.440 --> 02:51:36.440
I think it's one of those things where like I think people would actually go

02:51:36.440 --> 02:51:40.440
I think there are some people that would demand a different credit card but Visa and MasterCard move in lockstep on this

02:51:40.440 --> 02:51:44.440
again effective monopoly so there aren't a ton of other options

02:51:44.440 --> 02:51:48.440
some but not very many there's some but their back ends

02:51:48.440 --> 02:51:52.440
are still what is it Cirrus and

02:51:52.440 --> 02:51:56.440
whatever the other one is which is Cirrus and Monaris which are effectively

02:51:56.440 --> 02:52:00.440
they're just you know it's the same thing basically you can't get away from it

02:52:00.440 --> 02:52:04.440
it's kind of like how the insurance industry is all dictated by the underwriters

02:52:04.440 --> 02:52:08.440
and there's like a handful of them

02:52:08.440 --> 02:52:12.440
yeah exactly you're going to get screwed

02:52:12.440 --> 02:52:16.440
and with something like OnlyFans that industry

02:52:16.440 --> 02:52:20.440
was already used to sketchy alternative payment

02:52:20.440 --> 02:52:24.440
methods and I don't know but I'm assuming that's what OnlyFans used in the past

02:52:24.440 --> 02:52:28.440
so this was net new market whereas I think their argument

02:52:28.440 --> 02:52:32.440
could be that that might be enough to finally push people off of Steam to another platform

02:52:32.440 --> 02:52:36.440
so they might not actually lose those users I don't know man I think

02:52:36.440 --> 02:52:40.440
Valve would retain those users and I think that if I think that

02:52:40.440 --> 02:52:44.440
they have this way to basically

02:52:44.440 --> 02:52:48.440
go to the Steam gaming community and say hey we're not going to be held hostage

02:52:48.440 --> 02:52:52.440
by this go to your bank literally go to your bank tomorrow

02:52:52.440 --> 02:52:56.440
and demand to know why you can't buy games on Steam

02:52:56.440 --> 02:53:00.440
they'd have to pull a Epic Games

02:53:00.440 --> 02:53:04.440
versus Apple yeah and you know it would be wild as if they like

02:53:04.440 --> 02:53:08.440
offered free games to people that didn't have those credit cards or something

02:53:10.440 --> 02:53:14.440
Valve doesn't campaign I think Valve does their own thing

02:53:14.440 --> 02:53:18.440
they're very quiet yeah they quietly do their own thing and GabeN hangs out on his yacht

02:53:18.440 --> 02:53:22.440
and does interviews with for channels that have like dozens of subscribers

02:53:22.440 --> 02:53:26.440
apparently do you see that this week no yeah he did an interview

02:53:26.440 --> 02:53:30.440
with just like those sound too salty

02:53:30.440 --> 02:53:34.440
I've never asked him for an interview but just like he did no it was actually

02:53:34.440 --> 02:53:38.440
another article I read that pointed out that the people he did the interview with

02:53:38.440 --> 02:53:42.440
just like were not huge cool

02:53:42.440 --> 02:53:46.440
he responds to like random people that email him and stuff yep

02:53:46.440 --> 02:53:48.440
I don't think so

02:53:50.440 --> 02:53:54.440
did I get an email from him at some point hold on a second

02:53:54.440 --> 02:53:56.440
I

02:54:02.440 --> 02:54:06.440
don't think I ever got a response but I did send him

02:54:06.440 --> 02:54:10.440
a whiny email once and my problem was resolved

02:54:14.440 --> 02:54:18.440
sometimes that's a form of response basically I said that our PR rep

02:54:18.440 --> 02:54:22.440
was completely f***ing useless and pointed out

02:54:22.440 --> 02:54:26.440
that we have literally the top viewed piece of media

02:54:26.440 --> 02:54:30.440
on every piece of Valve hardware ever and it's an embarrassment that

02:54:30.440 --> 02:54:34.440
we not only were not seeded something I couldn't even buy it

02:54:34.440 --> 02:54:38.440
and they weren't able to accommodate me buying I think this was the index

02:54:38.440 --> 02:54:42.440
yeah it sounds like the index and it's just like

02:54:42.440 --> 02:54:46.440
guys I'm willing to buy it

02:54:46.440 --> 02:54:50.440
and you're not able to accommodate getting this thing into my hand so that I can cover it

02:54:50.440 --> 02:54:54.440
come on I forgot about this until

02:54:54.440 --> 02:54:58.440
very recently actually but that's very related to how I ended up getting

02:55:00.440 --> 02:55:04.440
Palmer Lucky's contact is raged out at one point on twitter

02:55:04.440 --> 02:55:08.440
back when it was twitter about how like

02:55:08.440 --> 02:55:12.440
the amount of work that I've done since like the very beginning

02:55:12.440 --> 02:55:16.440
and like the quality level of our reviews at that time

02:55:16.440 --> 02:55:20.440
and all this kind of stuff I still couldn't get actual emails

02:55:20.440 --> 02:55:24.440
back from anyone at Oculus I still couldn't get

02:55:24.440 --> 02:55:28.440
good samples I still could we were just buying things up front

02:55:28.440 --> 02:55:32.440
often getting them super late and all this kind of stuff was still happening

02:55:34.440 --> 02:55:38.440
and he responded and then that's how we ended up getting

02:55:38.440 --> 02:55:42.440
stuff in the future was just talking to him directly

02:55:42.440 --> 02:55:46.440
I don't know if you remember that that's hilarious

02:55:46.440 --> 02:55:50.440
I didn't get anything from him again so that's what's all

02:55:50.440 --> 02:55:52.440
yeah I'd copy it probably not

02:55:58.440 --> 02:56:02.440
Dan's like uh huh I want my like

02:56:02.440 --> 02:56:06.440
border crossing radar thing

02:56:06.440 --> 02:56:10.440
whatever yeah

02:56:10.440 --> 02:56:14.440
how did noki have that immediately available that's uh

02:56:14.440 --> 02:56:18.440
apparently there was a reddit thread from 10 years ago

02:56:18.440 --> 02:56:22.440
that simple kind of thing noki would do

02:56:22.440 --> 02:56:24.440
immediately had it

02:56:26.440 --> 02:56:28.440
but yeah

02:56:30.440 --> 02:56:34.440
I do not think I'm going to be able to uh

02:56:34.440 --> 02:56:38.440
I don't think I'm going to be able to find this what are you trying to find

02:56:38.440 --> 02:56:42.440
I'm trying to find the uh I'm trying to find my whiny email

02:56:42.440 --> 02:56:46.440
they've been they've been really good lately I mean they're

02:56:46.440 --> 02:56:50.440
valve so they're like not super communicative or whatever like they're good

02:56:50.440 --> 02:56:54.440
in their valve but before that they were like

02:56:54.440 --> 02:56:58.440
my contact was utterly useless um

02:56:58.440 --> 02:57:02.440
like you'd have to be just completely not doing your job to not notice

02:57:02.440 --> 02:57:06.440
like the media outlet

02:57:06.440 --> 02:57:10.440
that literally has the top performing video on every single hardware

02:57:10.440 --> 02:57:14.440
product you've ever released like come on noki was like

02:57:14.440 --> 02:57:18.440
tell Linus to give me his email credentials and I'll find it lol

02:57:18.440 --> 02:57:22.440
then you could you'd find all kinds of stuff in there

02:57:22.440 --> 02:57:26.440
yeah yeah

02:57:30.440 --> 02:57:34.440
um are we in after dark I think

02:57:34.440 --> 02:57:38.440
maybe anything else

02:57:38.440 --> 02:57:42.440
we are in after dark hooray

02:57:42.440 --> 02:57:44.440
huzzah

02:57:46.440 --> 02:57:50.440
here we go no I've got it I've got it I knew this is going to be hilarious this is from 2021

02:57:50.440 --> 02:57:54.440
so I emailed my my press contacts

02:57:54.440 --> 02:57:58.440
I said um the subject line is steam pal

02:57:58.440 --> 02:58:02.440
um we're very interested in covering this and would love to get access ahead of time

02:58:02.440 --> 02:58:06.440
so we can have day one coverage I sent a follow up um

02:58:06.440 --> 02:58:10.440
three weeks later which I think is a pretty reasonable amount of time to send a follow up

02:58:10.440 --> 02:58:14.440
hi name I haven't gotten replies from you the last couple of times I've emailed

02:58:14.440 --> 02:58:18.440
is it possible my emails are getting filtered again which means

02:58:18.440 --> 02:58:22.440
you're ignoring my emails you piece of

02:58:22.440 --> 02:58:26.440
can you please pay attention and at the very least reply to my email and tell me you're not interested

02:58:26.440 --> 02:58:30.440
I know you're getting my emails but that's like that's like corporate nice speak for

02:58:30.440 --> 02:58:34.440
I know you're getting my emails can you please respond

02:58:34.440 --> 02:58:38.440
hold on I accidentally just press the power button on my laptop so I know I get to

02:58:38.440 --> 02:58:42.440
where to go use Windows hello okay and then

02:58:42.440 --> 02:58:46.440
um another three weeks later

02:58:46.440 --> 02:58:50.440
which again I think is a very reasonable amount of time to wait

02:58:50.440 --> 02:58:54.440
I I CC'd Gabe and I said

02:58:54.440 --> 02:58:58.440
I guess it ended up being called steam deck I read about it on the verge today

02:58:58.440 --> 02:59:02.440
no pre-briefing no mailing list email no communication at all

02:59:02.440 --> 02:59:06.440
I don't like throwing people under the bus so last time

02:59:06.440 --> 02:59:10.440
oh no I did email him and I did get a response from this guy the time before last time

02:59:10.440 --> 02:59:14.440
I had to email you to get a response from person I spun it as maybe my

02:59:14.440 --> 02:59:18.440
emails are going to his spam lol oops at this point I've waited years for a change

02:59:18.440 --> 02:59:22.440
so it's time for some honest feedback this guy is one of if not the worst and least responsive media

02:59:22.440 --> 02:59:26.440
relations reps I've ever encountered is there anyone else at Valve

02:59:26.440 --> 02:59:30.440
we can work at work work with if there is I'd love to start that conversation if I'm stuck

02:59:30.440 --> 02:59:34.440
with him can you please gently remind him that we are among the highest viewed media outlets in the world

02:59:34.440 --> 02:59:38.440
for basically every piece of hardware Valve has released in the last few years link link link link link link link

02:59:38.440 --> 02:59:42.440
even if we weren't completely ignoring emails is just rude thanks for reading and have a

02:59:42.440 --> 02:59:46.440
wonderful day and I got a new rep immediately

02:59:46.440 --> 02:59:50.440
I wonder

02:59:50.440 --> 02:59:54.440
I wonder I wonder stuff like this like he probably

02:59:54.440 --> 02:59:58.440
has someone who monitors his inbox I don't know if he never even saw it

02:59:58.440 --> 03:00:02.440
and it just got taken care of I don't think so I don't think so I mean

03:00:02.440 --> 03:00:06.440
that last interview I read it was really good and

03:00:06.440 --> 03:00:10.440
he just said I don't know I mean you could take people's words with a grain of salt right

03:00:10.440 --> 03:00:14.440
but he says he just loves to work and he just works day and night and he just

03:00:14.440 --> 03:00:18.440
loves what he's working on he's got like that neuro implant company and like

03:00:18.440 --> 03:00:22.440
like ocean stuff and like valve and I don't know whatever my job

03:00:22.440 --> 03:00:26.440
was that cool I'd probably I'd probably think

03:00:26.440 --> 03:00:30.440
it was pretty cool too apparently he said a bunch of times that he's the only one that

03:00:30.440 --> 03:00:34.440
reads his emails Hamnetics says

03:00:34.440 --> 03:00:38.440
you didn't throw him under the bus you threw him in the bus that was thrown into the grand canyon

03:00:38.440 --> 03:00:42.440
well like look the guy ignored me for six weeks on

03:00:42.440 --> 03:00:46.440
the most important hardware and software product that valve has

03:00:46.440 --> 03:00:50.440
probably ever released in terms of the impact this is going to have on the industry

03:00:50.440 --> 03:00:54.440
I wanted to be part of it to support it

03:00:54.440 --> 03:00:58.440
like it's not like he was like trying to shield valve from like an unfair critic

03:00:58.440 --> 03:01:02.440
or something like that like I am an ally

03:01:02.440 --> 03:01:06.440
pun intended of the steam deck and the mission of SteamOS

03:01:06.440 --> 03:01:10.440
come on man

03:01:10.440 --> 03:01:14.440
ah yeah anyway

03:01:14.440 --> 03:01:18.440
um Dan it's after dark

03:01:18.440 --> 03:01:22.440
should we do some merch messages yeah let's do some merch messages

03:01:22.440 --> 03:01:26.440
well sometimes you have to be a Karen to get things done man I don't make the rules

03:01:26.440 --> 03:01:30.440
the root word of Karen is care

03:01:30.440 --> 03:01:34.440
thanks Luke no problem

03:01:34.440 --> 03:01:38.440
I got you hey DLO this question is directly towards

03:01:38.440 --> 03:01:42.440
Linus do you ever plan to do any other interviews any social media or television media

03:01:42.440 --> 03:01:46.440
personally you should make an appearance on hot ones

03:01:46.440 --> 03:01:50.440
um I mean

03:01:50.440 --> 03:01:54.440
I would have loved to go on tonight's show Stephen Colbert too bad it's cancelled

03:01:54.440 --> 03:01:58.440
um let me try and think

03:01:58.440 --> 03:02:02.440
where else would I love to go we've talked about what it would be like to do

03:02:02.440 --> 03:02:06.440
like Joe Rogan for instance I really just don't know what

03:02:06.440 --> 03:02:10.440
I don't know what I'd talk to him about I don't think he'd be interested in me

03:02:10.440 --> 03:02:14.440
he's got other YouTubers yeah but interesting ones

03:02:14.440 --> 03:02:18.440
whereas like the late show format I think is good

03:02:18.440 --> 03:02:22.440
because he had on now because now I want to see

03:02:22.440 --> 03:02:26.440
because now Linus thinks they are more interesting than him um

03:02:26.440 --> 03:02:30.440
well it's all about your particular interest like I know he's had like the Paul brothers on

03:02:30.440 --> 03:02:34.440
but they're like into fighting I'm not

03:02:34.440 --> 03:02:36.440
like what are my overlapping interests with Mr. Rogan

03:02:42.440 --> 03:02:46.440
I'm pretty sure he's had Marquez he's had Mr. Beast

03:02:46.440 --> 03:02:50.440
okay but Mr. Beast is literally the face of

03:02:50.440 --> 03:02:54.440
YouTuber Marquez is

03:02:54.440 --> 03:02:58.440
way more mainstream and trendy like come on

03:02:58.440 --> 03:03:02.440
does that mean more interesting are you conceding that he's more interesting than you

03:03:02.440 --> 03:03:06.440
I'm conceding that Joe Rogan would find that more interesting and a more mainstream audience

03:03:06.440 --> 03:03:10.440
would find that more interesting I mean look

03:03:10.440 --> 03:03:14.440
hey look the metrics are out there right like I think Marquez's

03:03:14.440 --> 03:03:18.440
views for video is like double or triple what we do quadruple somewhere

03:03:18.440 --> 03:03:22.440
in that range like in terms of raw numbers of views

03:03:22.440 --> 03:03:26.440
on the channel it's higher but we're more prolific uploaders

03:03:26.440 --> 03:03:30.440
so in terms of like what's the what's the audience breadth

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I think it's higher especially with some of the very

03:03:34.440 --> 03:03:38.440
moment products that he

03:03:38.440 --> 03:03:42.440
gets early access to like Apple Vision Pro would be a great example

03:03:42.440 --> 03:03:46.440
to twist that knife a little bit more for you

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Luke was very upset that we were late on Vision Pro yeah

03:03:50.440 --> 03:03:52.440
we shouldn't have been

03:03:54.440 --> 03:03:58.440
see I will not concede see how bothered he is

03:03:58.440 --> 03:04:02.440
let me make it up to you do you want another chip

03:04:02.440 --> 03:04:06.440
I could use another chip maybe

03:04:06.440 --> 03:04:10.440
cause I could give you another chip yeah well give me a second

03:04:10.440 --> 03:04:14.440
I'm preparing to receive another chip

03:04:14.440 --> 03:04:18.440
what do you got to do you got to get your like mouth saliva

03:04:18.440 --> 03:04:22.440
warmed up or like this now you're making it kind of weird I don't I'm not sure if I want to give you the chip

03:04:22.440 --> 03:04:26.440
anymore here just do it alright alright here's your chip okay

03:04:28.440 --> 03:04:30.440
I go you're welcome

03:04:36.440 --> 03:04:38.440
sorry

03:04:40.440 --> 03:04:42.440
I

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forgot to drop my chip

03:04:50.440 --> 03:04:54.440
you screwed it up I like making messes

03:04:54.440 --> 03:04:56.440
still can eat it

03:05:00.440 --> 03:05:02.440
it's actually really smooth

03:05:04.440 --> 03:05:08.440
anyway I'm down to be invited to things I often

03:05:08.440 --> 03:05:12.440
don't get invited to things I'm a little bit dorky I get it

03:05:12.440 --> 03:05:16.440
and that's cool I like that YouTube acknowledges me now

03:05:16.440 --> 03:05:20.440
I appreciate that for a long time they didn't they they they had

03:05:20.440 --> 03:05:24.440
this thing where they like went really far away from tech they were trying like not to

03:05:24.440 --> 03:05:28.440
be tech even though in the early days of YouTube it was like very tech like tech was on the front page we had

03:05:28.440 --> 03:05:32.440
a category and everything and then they were like we don't want to be tech no we're

03:05:32.440 --> 03:05:36.440
cool we're cool we're cool and then so they like didn't want to engage with

03:05:36.440 --> 03:05:40.440
not just me but like a lot of tech creators and then now they're very acknowledging of their

03:05:40.440 --> 03:05:44.440
tech creators I think they do a much better job of it so that's good enough for me

03:05:46.440 --> 03:05:50.440
and if I'm ever feeling sad about people not inviting me to you know

03:05:50.440 --> 03:05:54.440
more cool formats like you know late shows or hot ones or

03:05:54.440 --> 03:05:58.440
Joe Rogan experience or whatever then I'll just cry on my

03:05:58.440 --> 03:06:02.440
play buttons I'll be okay

03:06:02.440 --> 03:06:06.440
it would be pretty painful to wipe your tears with play buttons

03:06:06.440 --> 03:06:10.440
but I'm sure you can find a way

03:06:10.440 --> 03:06:14.440
hmm no I don't know about painful

03:06:14.440 --> 03:06:16.440
not very effective mind you

03:06:20.440 --> 03:06:24.440
yeah fair enough Dan

03:06:28.440 --> 03:06:32.440
I was going to say can we like mute mine when you're talking because I think that's the problem

03:06:32.440 --> 03:06:36.440
but I think people are also hearing you twice and they're hearing you through mine

03:06:36.440 --> 03:06:40.440
should we just have Dan sit next to Luke that's an idea I'm just

03:06:40.440 --> 03:06:42.440
I'm just pitching ideas

03:06:44.440 --> 03:06:48.440
I don't actually you don't have the dashboard open you

03:06:48.440 --> 03:06:52.440
guys no I don't I mean I can

03:06:52.440 --> 03:06:56.440
I can read them Luke you can read them I'll read them I literally just said

03:06:56.440 --> 03:07:00.440
I don't have them Jared W spent $309

03:07:00.440 --> 03:07:04.440
good Lord and said good idea LL

03:07:04.440 --> 03:07:08.440
did Linus find a solution to his HDMI CEC constantly swapping to shield

03:07:08.440 --> 03:07:12.440
if so what was it solutions online don't fix it for me

03:07:12.440 --> 03:07:16.440
um no I didn't I went and I bought

03:07:16.440 --> 03:07:20.440
an old harmony remote and um

03:07:20.440 --> 03:07:24.440
I'm gonna install it now because that's what I know how to use

03:07:24.440 --> 03:07:28.440
and I am old and I like using things that I know how to use

03:07:28.440 --> 03:07:32.440
so that's I'm gonna turn all the CEC stuff off on everything

03:07:32.440 --> 03:07:36.440
and I'm gonna use a universal remote again even though that is ridiculous

03:07:40.440 --> 03:07:44.440
oh right I guess I read merge messages now sorry I forgot

03:07:44.440 --> 03:07:48.440
uh let's move on to the next merge message this is throwing me off

03:07:48.440 --> 03:07:52.440
um Jonathan E says hey LLD

03:07:52.440 --> 03:07:56.440
bring back the byte blocks uh do you have any tips on dealing with

03:07:56.440 --> 03:08:00.440
other teams that lack accountability and often push blame on to others for

03:08:00.440 --> 03:08:04.440
their own actions love the wancho as always

03:08:04.440 --> 03:08:06.440
oh

03:08:08.440 --> 03:08:12.440
I think at the end of the day the only

03:08:12.440 --> 03:08:16.440
possible solution to that is forthright

03:08:16.440 --> 03:08:20.440
honest conversations and part of the challenge and I've been running into

03:08:20.440 --> 03:08:24.440
this a fair bit lately is everyone's version of the

03:08:24.440 --> 03:08:28.440
honest truth is a little bit different and that doesn't necessarily mean

03:08:28.440 --> 03:08:32.440
it's malicious it can just mean that our our individual lived experiences are

03:08:32.440 --> 03:08:36.440
it doesn't even necessarily mean it's wrong yeah which is

03:08:36.440 --> 03:08:40.440
a fun one yeah yeah 100% because so

03:08:40.440 --> 03:08:44.440
much of how we communicate is not just the words it's tone it's body language

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um it's it's the past history that we have

03:08:48.440 --> 03:08:52.440
with that particular person or with those particular people that can color

03:08:52.440 --> 03:08:56.440
um any future interactions it can be really challenging to arrive

03:08:56.440 --> 03:09:00.440
on a single universal one truth that we can all agree on and so

03:09:00.440 --> 03:09:04.440
um your perception might be that that team lacks

03:09:04.440 --> 03:09:08.440
accountability but their perception might be that you have

03:09:08.440 --> 03:09:12.440
unrealistic and unreasonable demands um

03:09:12.440 --> 03:09:16.440
and so digging in and finding the answer to that is

03:09:16.440 --> 03:09:20.440
it it's really tough um it requires

03:09:20.440 --> 03:09:24.440
unflinching honesty and introspection and leadership on both

03:09:24.440 --> 03:09:28.440
sides and if the other party is not acting good faith in good faith that can be

03:09:28.440 --> 03:09:32.440
damn near impossible I wish I had a better answer for you

03:09:32.440 --> 03:09:36.440
Luke if you have some other stuff that you'd like to elaborate on that with then go for it

03:09:36.440 --> 03:09:40.440
but I yeah I just don't really think I have anything for you mediation can often

03:09:40.440 --> 03:09:42.440
be helpful that's a good one

03:09:44.440 --> 03:09:48.440
but it's that's why we have Dan here otherwise

03:09:48.440 --> 03:09:52.440
it's not it's not a

03:09:52.440 --> 03:09:56.440
easy problem to solve

03:09:56.440 --> 03:10:00.440
it can sometimes come from people just reacting too quickly

03:10:00.440 --> 03:10:04.440
so if you're if you're gonna try to like work with somebody to resolve this I wouldn't go into it just

03:10:04.440 --> 03:10:08.440
uh full accusatory even if it fully feels that way on your

03:10:08.440 --> 03:10:12.440
end because again the truth can be different it's

03:10:12.440 --> 03:10:16.440
very difficult but still um because

03:10:16.440 --> 03:10:20.440
you know maybe they don't think that they're wrong about

03:10:20.440 --> 03:10:24.440
themselves shirking blame they don't think it's actually their fault

03:10:24.440 --> 03:10:28.440
but that's because they don't have the perspective of other parties or

03:10:28.440 --> 03:10:32.440
where they think a certain process is maybe supposed to work a certain way and nobody else

03:10:32.440 --> 03:10:36.440
actually thinks that or whatever else the situation might be more complicated and it seems

03:10:36.440 --> 03:10:40.440
on the surface and I would recommend leaving room for that to be true or honestly

03:10:40.440 --> 03:10:44.440
just leave room for them to save face on the way yeah kind of like how my

03:10:44.440 --> 03:10:48.440
my email hey uh my email is going to your spam filter

03:10:48.440 --> 03:10:52.440
it might be in your spam and then they could be like oh yeah sorry

03:10:52.440 --> 03:10:56.440
it was give them an out whatever let them give them

03:10:56.440 --> 03:11:00.440
a path forward that doesn't require an apology

03:11:00.440 --> 03:11:04.440
is a powerful strategy for resolving

03:11:04.440 --> 03:11:08.440
differences it does mean that you just have to high road it and

03:11:08.440 --> 03:11:12.440
um and just you know deal with that that transgression

03:11:12.440 --> 03:11:16.440
is never going to be addressed and you're never going to get an apology but if it gives you a path

03:11:16.440 --> 03:11:20.440
forward then that's great and if it ultimately doesn't work hey pack them into the bus

03:11:20.440 --> 03:11:24.440
and hook it into the grand canyon yeah

03:11:24.440 --> 03:11:28.440
I am equipped to read them now but this one is to me so

03:11:28.440 --> 03:11:32.440
question for Luke from Andrew H.

03:11:32.440 --> 03:11:36.440
you've spoken before about how you worked hard to get yourself into better physical shape how did you

03:11:36.440 --> 03:11:40.440
motivate yourself to not give up do you have any tips for people looking to do the same

03:11:40.440 --> 03:11:44.440
um I'm actually on a

03:11:44.440 --> 03:11:48.440
on a down track right now which is unfortunate I find this

03:11:48.440 --> 03:11:52.440
I get sick like way too often um and I find that I don't actually have

03:11:52.440 --> 03:11:56.440
an insane appetite unless I'm sick a lot of people lose their appetite when they're sick and my

03:11:56.440 --> 03:12:00.440
appetite goes through the freaking moon uh so I find it hard to regulate

03:12:00.440 --> 03:12:04.440
weight while I'm sick because I tend to balloon

03:12:04.440 --> 03:12:08.440
unless I'm like really pleasing myself um

03:12:08.440 --> 03:12:12.440
so I've been struggling a little bit lately just due to sickness and travel cycles

03:12:12.440 --> 03:12:16.440
um but I'm definitely still motivated

03:12:16.440 --> 03:12:20.440
um and the the strength portion is still

03:12:20.440 --> 03:12:24.440
decently high because that that doesn't have too many issues

03:12:24.440 --> 03:12:28.440
um the motivation is it's not it's not I've talked

03:12:28.440 --> 03:12:32.440
about this before it's not motivation anymore it's um it's an internal

03:12:32.440 --> 03:12:36.440
demand it's I don't go to

03:12:36.440 --> 03:12:40.440
the gym because I'm motivated I go to the gym because I have to um

03:12:40.440 --> 03:12:44.440
and it helps that I tend to enjoy it when I'm there but I am a

03:12:44.440 --> 03:12:48.440
person who struggles with mode shifting so once I'm doing a thing I want to keep doing

03:12:48.440 --> 03:12:52.440
it I've described this before as like um you know

03:12:52.440 --> 03:12:56.440
uh every time I try to preface this before I say it uh with I take

03:12:56.440 --> 03:13:00.440
showers every day but I never want to get into the shower once I'm

03:13:00.440 --> 03:13:04.440
in the shower I could genuinely happily stay there for like an hour

03:13:04.440 --> 03:13:08.440
um I like to keep doing the thing that I'm doing this also creates a

03:13:08.440 --> 03:13:12.440
problem where like I never want to go to bed I never want to go to sleep

03:13:12.440 --> 03:13:16.440
I could stay up for so long and have no problem the problem will then

03:13:16.440 --> 03:13:20.440
be that once I go to sleep I don't want to get out hear me out

03:13:20.440 --> 03:13:24.440
maybe this is a chicken and egg problem if you could lose more weight you could

03:13:24.440 --> 03:13:28.440
solve your inertia problem ha ha ha ha

03:13:28.440 --> 03:13:32.440
ha ha ha maybe it's just a lot of work

03:13:32.440 --> 03:13:36.440
for you to change change what you're doing

03:13:36.440 --> 03:13:40.440
um I was do I was doing pretty well in the first little bit of the year um

03:13:40.440 --> 03:13:44.440
and then the I was I was down

03:13:46.440 --> 03:13:50.440
18 pounds before the compitex trip

03:13:50.440 --> 03:13:54.440
and then traveling for three weeks and then I was sick for a really long time after

03:13:54.440 --> 03:13:58.440
that and the combination was I was out of the gym

03:13:58.440 --> 03:14:02.440
and having issues with eating because of either being sick or

03:14:02.440 --> 03:14:06.440
being travel or traveling and that like six plus weeks

03:14:06.440 --> 03:14:10.440
of being out just set me so far back it's it's really

03:14:10.440 --> 03:14:14.440
disappointing but I don't um the disappointment doesn't

03:14:14.440 --> 03:14:18.440
demotivate me because again it's not motivation that's driving me it's a it's

03:14:18.440 --> 03:14:22.440
an internal requirement I have to do uh that's that's 100% of spectra marker

03:14:22.440 --> 03:14:26.440
yeah I'm somewhere on it I don't really care I'm happy with how I operate so I don't

03:14:26.440 --> 03:14:30.440
care to deal with it but um I

03:14:30.440 --> 03:14:34.440
I'm going to go regardless and I'm going to do these things regardless so I'm not worried about

03:14:34.440 --> 03:14:38.440
that that it sucks and it's disappointing to have lost progress but

03:14:38.440 --> 03:14:42.440
it in no way impedes my desire to keep moving forward um

03:14:42.440 --> 03:14:46.440
it's just my I am further back from the goal that I wanted

03:14:46.440 --> 03:14:50.440
by the end of this year than I would have like to have been at this point that does not mean that the goal

03:14:50.440 --> 03:14:54.440
that I have for the end of this year is impossible and even if it was okay

03:14:54.440 --> 03:14:58.440
just commit to improving habits moving forward and push the goal

03:14:58.440 --> 03:15:02.440
back a little bit to a reasonable point and genuinely push towards

03:15:02.440 --> 03:15:06.440
doing that that's how I've always kind of aimed for this um I had a bunch of strength goals

03:15:06.440 --> 03:15:10.440
and then I got brutally sick for like six months this was a while ago

03:15:10.440 --> 03:15:14.440
and a lot of my strength goals fell back so I just deferred them and then eventually

03:15:14.440 --> 03:15:18.440
hit them and I just you just keep moving you have to be relentless with it

03:15:18.440 --> 03:15:22.440
I think like I hit a certain age where it's like

03:15:22.440 --> 03:15:26.440
to be healthy it is a requirement that I need to be in the gym

03:15:26.440 --> 03:15:30.440
I don't necessarily know if this is as true for everybody but I

03:15:30.440 --> 03:15:34.440
if I don't use my body I get mentally

03:15:34.440 --> 03:15:38.440
depressed that is a truth for me I'm not necessarily saying that is a truth for all of you

03:15:38.440 --> 03:15:42.440
that is a truth for me I have to be out there and I have to do things

03:15:42.440 --> 03:15:46.440
I'm sure I could replace the gym with any form of sport or physical

03:15:46.440 --> 03:15:50.440
activity that actively used my muscles I don't think it has to be the gym I'm sure I could

03:15:50.440 --> 03:15:54.440
help people move every day and maybe be fine because for me

03:15:54.440 --> 03:15:58.440
I think that's really the point is that I have to move

03:15:58.440 --> 03:16:02.440
I think you'd actually thrive on that you like helping people and like you like physical activity

03:16:02.440 --> 03:16:06.440
I think you'd be done I don't think it's the gym in particular

03:16:06.440 --> 03:16:10.440
um yeah I I like try to

03:16:10.440 --> 03:16:14.440
I was there's a move happening at LMG right now and I'm actually sad that

03:16:14.440 --> 03:16:18.440
I'm not helping I was going to volunteer to help this weekend we have a couple departments that are moving around

03:16:18.440 --> 03:16:22.440
from here I was like why is it this weekend I actually wanted

03:16:22.440 --> 03:16:26.440
to do that but uh yeah

03:16:26.440 --> 03:16:30.440
a big one for me is accountability buddies as well um if you're on a

03:16:30.440 --> 03:16:34.440
team or if you have a group that does whatever it is that you're doing that's physical activity

03:16:34.440 --> 03:16:38.440
regularly that goes such a long way like last

03:16:38.440 --> 03:16:42.440
night um I had badminton training like I like

03:16:42.440 --> 03:16:46.440
sparring so not like with an instructor or whatever

03:16:46.440 --> 03:16:50.440
uh but one of our guys who works at smash champs I saw him like recording

03:16:50.440 --> 03:16:54.440
one of his games and I was like yo you never record your game what are you even doing

03:16:54.440 --> 03:16:58.440
um he's like oh man no I was like really motivated when badminton insight came out

03:16:58.440 --> 03:17:02.440
and like we got to play against them and just like um it was really

03:17:02.440 --> 03:17:06.440
inspirational and I want to like get sweaty I want to I want to improve again and I was

03:17:06.440 --> 03:17:10.440
like oh that sounds sick like we should we should have like badminton

03:17:10.440 --> 03:17:14.440
improvement dates let's let we'll spar we can run drills and stuff like that because

03:17:14.440 --> 03:17:18.440
badminton's a sport that's nearly impossible to train by yourself

03:17:18.440 --> 03:17:22.440
there are some things you can do you can just go on a corridor in an empty parking

03:17:22.440 --> 03:17:26.440
lot and you can like do footwork drills or um you know you can hit

03:17:26.440 --> 03:17:30.440
against a wall and stuff like that there are things you can do but like

03:17:30.440 --> 03:17:34.440
if you really want to play you need someone to hit the

03:17:34.440 --> 03:17:38.440
shuttle back to you and um so last night

03:17:38.440 --> 03:17:42.440
uh so okay let's back up so on Wednesday night um

03:17:42.440 --> 03:17:46.440
Yvonne asked me to feed her which is what it's called when um you have a really

03:17:46.440 --> 03:17:50.440
weird dynamic in your relationship around food no just kidding um

03:17:50.440 --> 03:17:54.440
she asked me to feed her which is what it's called when you like grab a whole row of

03:17:54.440 --> 03:17:58.440
shuttles on your ARM and you like toss them up and and hit them so that someone can like work

03:17:58.440 --> 03:18:02.440
on their consistency um and instead of just going

03:18:02.440 --> 03:18:06.440
and feeding Yvonne I fed her for like an hour and then I was like oh well okay

03:18:06.440 --> 03:18:10.440
you know you're probably you're probably too tired to do drills anymore but do you want to

03:18:10.440 --> 03:18:14.440
do you want to go play like a couple mixed doubles games we have our grand opening tournament coming up and Yvonne and I

03:18:14.440 --> 03:18:18.440
are going to be playing together and uh she was like okay yeah we can go play a couple games

03:18:18.440 --> 03:18:22.440
we ended up playing like five games and they were like super intense

03:18:22.440 --> 03:18:26.440
and I was running a ton and so last night Thursday I was

03:18:26.440 --> 03:18:30.440
I was bushwhacked dude like I did not feel like it

03:18:30.440 --> 03:18:34.440
but like what I'm gonna bail don't be

03:18:34.440 --> 03:18:38.440
a flake you know you can't be another thing dude if if I

03:18:38.440 --> 03:18:42.440
I my it's a it's a bad cycle because I

03:18:42.440 --> 03:18:46.440
will start again I mean I'm I'm literally in the middle of

03:18:46.440 --> 03:18:50.440
doing well with it right now so it's not that but I'm saying in general if there's a down cycle I get

03:18:50.440 --> 03:18:54.440
sick or I'm traveling or whatever I will start again it's no problem but it is always

03:18:54.440 --> 03:18:58.440
the worst because my energy is the lowest when I'm

03:18:58.440 --> 03:19:02.440
it feels so like counter-intuitive but if I'm not going and

03:19:02.440 --> 03:19:06.440
expending large amounts of energy my average energy level will be

03:19:06.440 --> 03:19:10.440
very low I feel it too and I get like irritable

03:19:10.440 --> 03:19:14.440
I get like cranky yeah and I'll be like hey

03:19:14.440 --> 03:19:18.440
I haven't like played badminton in two weeks like I haven't done anything

03:19:18.440 --> 03:19:22.440
the most zen I will literally ever be is if I have

03:19:22.440 --> 03:19:26.440
a genuinely maximum effort leg workout

03:19:26.440 --> 03:19:30.440
on the drive home I don't think I will ever be more calm

03:19:30.440 --> 03:19:34.440
than like in that moment I'm just so relaxed

03:19:34.440 --> 03:19:38.440
it's it's actually wild

03:19:38.440 --> 03:19:42.440
elemental exposure asks shuttle versus birdie

03:19:42.440 --> 03:19:46.440
so the official term is shuttle cock in a lot of

03:19:46.440 --> 03:19:50.440
the western world people don't really like the whole

03:19:50.440 --> 03:19:54.440
cock tee hee thing so we call it a shuttle and filthy casuals

03:19:54.440 --> 03:19:58.440
call it a birdie you're welcome

03:20:00.440 --> 03:20:04.440
so if you said birdie I would assume you mean like a plastic one

03:20:04.440 --> 03:20:08.440
you know yeah honestly that makes sense to me

03:20:08.440 --> 03:20:12.440
when bingo chronified says I say we call it a shuttle dick

03:20:12.440 --> 03:20:16.440
you know what I could get on board

03:20:16.440 --> 03:20:20.440
you know what want to smack want to smack the dick around

03:20:20.440 --> 03:20:24.440
so that the like so if I go to feed Yvonne

03:20:24.440 --> 03:20:28.440
we'll be feeding her yeah yeah yeah

03:20:28.440 --> 03:20:32.440
yeah sounds good should I read the next one

03:20:32.440 --> 03:20:36.440
sure where do you see car automation

03:20:36.440 --> 03:20:40.440
going in the future will there eventually be a government

03:20:40.440 --> 03:20:44.440
led open source software that all cars will have

03:20:44.440 --> 03:20:48.440
so they can communicate with each other on the road I mean

03:20:48.440 --> 03:20:52.440
that's a pretty cool utopian dream but I don't know if it's

03:20:52.440 --> 03:20:54.440
compatible with the current

03:20:56.440 --> 03:21:00.440
sort of capitalistic structure that we

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live in I would love

03:21:04.440 --> 03:21:06.440
haha and I think it was in response to this

03:21:10.440 --> 03:21:14.440
yeah I mean government controlled an open source

03:21:14.440 --> 03:21:18.440
already sounds like it's not going to be a thing all cars

03:21:18.440 --> 03:21:22.440
communicating on the road sounds like it's not going to be a thing that would just be rife with potential

03:21:22.440 --> 03:21:26.440
for abuse I would love cars to have like

03:21:26.440 --> 03:21:30.440
responders or something like that that give each other situational awareness of the actions

03:21:30.440 --> 03:21:34.440
that they're taking and the actions they intend to take

03:21:34.440 --> 03:21:38.440
I'd love to see like an open framework for that that allows interoperation

03:21:38.440 --> 03:21:42.440
excuse me I don't know who is going to be motivated

03:21:42.440 --> 03:21:44.440
to drive it though pun intended

03:21:48.440 --> 03:21:52.440
next merge message hold on

03:21:52.440 --> 03:21:56.440
BRJD says control dot dot dot utopia

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well yeah but that's the whole point

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is that in a utopia you would have a benevolent government that would do

03:22:04.440 --> 03:22:08.440
stuff like this but like that's why we said

03:22:08.440 --> 03:22:12.440
hahaha come on man

03:22:14.440 --> 03:22:18.440
hey wan.dll I triggered the paint rant a few days ago

03:22:18.440 --> 03:22:22.440
when I made my first purchase a few years ago

03:22:22.440 --> 03:22:26.440
right yeah anything new Linus wants to rant about

03:22:26.440 --> 03:22:28.440
I mean we just did our tech gripes video

03:22:30.440 --> 03:22:34.440
I don't know if I have the energy to rant right now my lips hurt

03:22:34.440 --> 03:22:38.440
but hey thanks for your purchase enjoy your style blue

03:22:38.440 --> 03:22:42.440
whatever it is that you bought oh three items

03:22:42.440 --> 03:22:46.440
precision multi-bit screwdriver and bit case and a jerry rig razor knife

03:22:46.440 --> 03:22:50.440
okay what is that but that style blue how does that make any sense

03:22:50.440 --> 03:22:54.440
oh for the thing on there that was their message

03:22:54.440 --> 03:22:58.440
yes yep that makes sense I had to look for it for a second

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okay there it is blue style nice

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most esteemed danonite order

03:23:08.440 --> 03:23:12.440
humbly requesting an update on the sacred bike

03:23:12.440 --> 03:23:16.440
also at Linus visiting Vancouver in September and he must

03:23:16.440 --> 03:23:20.440
ride roads for a loyal two-wheeled pilgrim k-pings

03:23:22.440 --> 03:23:24.440
I am going to

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I am not going to ride in July

03:23:34.440 --> 03:23:38.440
I reached out I said hey on Wednesday actually I reached out are we still on track

03:23:38.440 --> 03:23:42.440
for me to ride this month and buddy's not been feeling well so I

03:23:42.440 --> 03:23:46.440
basically said don't worry man at this point the delay is 96% on me so I don't want

03:23:46.440 --> 03:23:50.440
to lose any sleep over it so I'll get I want to get it more than

03:23:50.440 --> 03:23:54.440
96 you know what I've had enough of your I've had enough of your crap

03:23:56.440 --> 03:24:00.440
the fact that he stored it in his place this whole time is wild

03:24:04.440 --> 03:24:06.440
but alright

03:24:08.440 --> 03:24:12.440
next person message is from she chou oh hopefully said that right

03:24:12.440 --> 03:24:16.440
how is the new door lock working for you the wireless

03:24:16.440 --> 03:24:20.440
charging seems like quite interesting for me to consider

03:24:20.440 --> 03:24:24.440
it for my future smart lock I

03:24:24.440 --> 03:24:28.440
really like it so far it is a door lock but

03:24:28.440 --> 03:24:32.440
smart and wirelessly charges it does

03:24:32.440 --> 03:24:36.440
exactly what it says on the tin I actually didn't know that that video was up yet I

03:24:36.440 --> 03:24:40.440
wonder how it's doing I have no idea what people's appetite is for

03:24:40.440 --> 03:24:44.440
like a ludicrously expensive

03:24:44.440 --> 03:24:48.440
door lock apparently pretty good it's a

03:24:48.440 --> 03:24:52.440
210 for the channel hilarious

03:24:54.440 --> 03:24:58.440
I guess it's a good title I waited seven years for a zero battery

03:24:58.440 --> 03:25:02.440
smart lock which I did that company I first saw them

03:25:02.440 --> 03:25:06.440
at Computex and then we first collaborated with them seven years ago

03:25:06.440 --> 03:25:10.440
they actually flew out here and showed us their technology it's infrared wireless power transmission

03:25:10.440 --> 03:25:14.440
and it's super cool why charge and

03:25:14.440 --> 03:25:18.440
we actually talked about them on WAN Show a little while ago which was what prompted them to reach out

03:25:18.440 --> 03:25:22.440
and offer to send this door lock over because Luke and I were talking about them and I was like

03:25:22.440 --> 03:25:26.440
do they still exist like did they make it or what and they

03:25:26.440 --> 03:25:30.440
emailed me they're like we very much have survived thank you for mentioning us

03:25:30.440 --> 03:25:34.440
also are you interested in checking out any of our new stuff pretty cool

03:25:34.440 --> 03:25:36.440
okay

03:25:38.440 --> 03:25:42.440
alright next one I'm not

03:25:42.440 --> 03:25:46.440
necessarily sure what this means so hopefully Linus knows hey LLD could Linus touch

03:25:46.440 --> 03:25:50.440
in more detail about the all sales final thing

03:25:50.440 --> 03:25:54.440
don't know what that is is the mystery screwdriver bought for limeday still under warranty

03:25:54.440 --> 03:25:58.440
it would be great to see the power outlet in the US as well

03:25:58.440 --> 03:26:02.440
yeah all sales final doesn't mean that

03:26:02.440 --> 03:26:06.440
you have no warranty necessarily it means that

03:26:06.440 --> 03:26:10.440
you can't like just change your mind

03:26:10.440 --> 03:26:14.440
and be like oh yeah I I don't want it anymore oh wait wait wait

03:26:14.440 --> 03:26:18.440
wait unless you're talking about like the B stock stuff like if you're just like

03:26:18.440 --> 03:26:22.440
oh yeah I you know I didn't realize that

03:26:22.440 --> 03:26:26.440
this used item was going to have a little scuff on it

03:26:26.440 --> 03:26:30.440
then it definitely wouldn't cover that hold on a second though

03:26:30.440 --> 03:26:34.440
I just want to I just want to check something it is possible

03:26:34.440 --> 03:26:38.440
that some of the held on used like new pictures

03:26:38.440 --> 03:26:42.440
contain oh wait

03:26:42.440 --> 03:26:46.440
no some okay I don't know what you're asking here because

03:26:46.440 --> 03:26:50.440
it's explicit on these items power outlet purchases are

03:26:50.440 --> 03:26:54.440
final no returns exchanges warranty they are what they are

03:26:54.440 --> 03:26:58.440
so there you go pictures contain examples of cosmetic

03:26:58.440 --> 03:27:02.440
wear read the fine print questions please read our FAQ

03:27:04.440 --> 03:27:08.440
what is the power outlet returned and like new gear available

03:27:08.440 --> 03:27:12.440
at reduced prices while supplies last it is only available to consumers residing in whatever

03:27:12.440 --> 03:27:16.440
can they be returned to exchange no no exceptions meaning refunds exchanges will not

03:27:16.440 --> 03:27:20.440
be granted for these products there we go I'm glad we got a very very clear answer

03:27:20.440 --> 03:27:24.440
for you they are sold as is and are excluded for warranty coverage you're buying these things for a

03:27:24.440 --> 03:27:28.440
fraction of the price in some cases for a fraction

03:27:28.440 --> 03:27:32.440
of what we paid for them so it is what it is and

03:27:32.440 --> 03:27:36.440
enjoy the deal would be great

03:27:36.440 --> 03:27:40.440
to see the power outlet in the US as well um yeah

03:27:40.440 --> 03:27:44.440
would but I don't know when if ever that'll happen because I don't even

03:27:44.440 --> 03:27:48.440
know if a lot of stuff gets returned anymore I think there's been

03:27:48.440 --> 03:27:52.440
kind of a sea change in in e-commerce um where things that ultimately

03:27:52.440 --> 03:27:56.440
are not able to be delivered just end up being destroyed rather than being returned

03:27:56.440 --> 03:28:00.440
to us in many cases so I don't even know how much how many

03:28:00.440 --> 03:28:04.440
returns we're going to get these days but you know if it happens it happens and

03:28:04.440 --> 03:28:08.440
it'll be a good deal for people who don't mind buying something final sale

03:28:08.440 --> 03:28:12.440
interesting um okay

03:28:12.440 --> 03:28:16.440
hi lunis like and lan when our bonus bin

03:28:16.440 --> 03:28:20.440
items coming back I was looking forward to getting a sticker sheet or a pin

03:28:20.440 --> 03:28:24.440
the shoelaces would also be cool um

03:28:24.440 --> 03:28:28.440
we are looking at the bonus bin and trying to get some stuff going on

03:28:28.440 --> 03:28:32.440
we've been extremely bogged down with

03:28:32.440 --> 03:28:36.440
just global logistics being an absolute show

03:28:36.440 --> 03:28:40.440
with like tariff stuff and everybody and their dog trying to

03:28:40.440 --> 03:28:44.440
mass import stuff before tariff stuff but then tariff stuff goes away and

03:28:44.440 --> 03:28:48.440
like we've had less bandwidth for the things that we

03:28:48.440 --> 03:28:52.440
want to do to delight our customers

03:28:52.440 --> 03:28:56.440
cause we've had to waste so much of it on just horse shit so

03:28:56.440 --> 03:29:00.440
we're not the only ones that are feeling it so I'm not asking for anyone to like feel bad for

03:29:00.440 --> 03:29:04.440
us or whatever we're just you're seeing the cracks form

03:29:08.440 --> 03:29:12.440
I'm just going to read the next one anyways I feel like it's easier this way

03:29:12.440 --> 03:29:16.440
Luke I used to play pogo or pokemon go but don't have the community anymore

03:29:16.440 --> 03:29:20.440
instead I've started birding I get walking I get

03:29:20.440 --> 03:29:24.440
community and I find critters without the screen have you ever thought about

03:29:24.440 --> 03:29:28.440
trying birding not so much

03:29:28.440 --> 03:29:32.440
being a bird person of sorts I do enjoy seeing birds when I'm out

03:29:32.440 --> 03:29:36.440
but I have not thought of going birding something that I do these days

03:29:36.440 --> 03:29:40.440
with pokemon go to look at the screen less is I got

03:29:40.440 --> 03:29:44.440
those call again pokemon go plus

03:29:44.440 --> 03:29:48.440
plus so you don't even have to have your phone

03:29:48.440 --> 03:29:52.440
unlocked you have it locked in your pocket and either the thing will try to

03:29:52.440 --> 03:29:56.440
catch stuff automatically for you or you can press the button on it

03:29:56.440 --> 03:30:00.440
and it'll like buzz if it detects something and if you press the button it'll throw a better

03:30:00.440 --> 03:30:04.440
ball at it so sometimes I'll do that so I can go to a community

03:30:04.440 --> 03:30:08.440
event and never actually even look at my phone and then

03:30:08.440 --> 03:30:12.440
just walk around the whole time without doing this which sounds a lot better it feels

03:30:12.440 --> 03:30:16.440
nicer on my neck I will inadvertently

03:30:16.440 --> 03:30:20.440
do things like notice birds more and stuff like that

03:30:20.440 --> 03:30:24.440
defeats the purpose of pokemon go know it doesn't because

03:30:24.440 --> 03:30:28.440
the thing will buzz twice detecting that something is there you press the

03:30:28.440 --> 03:30:32.440
button and then it will attempt

03:30:32.440 --> 03:30:36.440
to catch or go like just like the pokeball going it

03:30:36.440 --> 03:30:40.440
and then be like oh you got your pokemon it will it will do

03:30:40.440 --> 03:30:44.440
buzzes that mimic that but if you get it then it'll go like

03:30:44.440 --> 03:30:48.440
so it indicates that you got it and it'll do the attempting to catch

03:30:48.440 --> 03:30:52.440
thing but if it fails it'll go so you know that you failed

03:30:52.440 --> 03:30:56.440
and when you're out at a community day it's usually the same pokemon every single

03:30:56.440 --> 03:31:00.440
time so you don't need to see it on your screen and there's a bunch of the

03:31:00.440 --> 03:31:04.440
hyper nerds that are out playing that are doing I think it's called speed catching

03:31:04.440 --> 03:31:08.440
or something and they barely even see this stuff anyways so like I don't see

03:31:08.440 --> 03:31:12.440
a difference personally and I am not playing

03:31:12.440 --> 03:31:16.440
that game I have said this before I think pokemon go is actually a very

03:31:16.440 --> 03:31:20.440
bad game the only reason why I like it is because it gets

03:31:20.440 --> 03:31:24.440
me outside and this is an evolution that gets me outside and looking

03:31:24.440 --> 03:31:28.440
at my screen less what a banger

03:31:28.440 --> 03:31:32.440
that sounds great to me I don't like the actual gameplay

03:31:32.440 --> 03:31:36.440
of pokemon go is so bad the PvP is terrible

03:31:36.440 --> 03:31:38.440
the PvE is terrible

03:31:40.440 --> 03:31:44.440
yeah the gameplay sucks anyways so why do I care

03:31:44.440 --> 03:31:48.440
if I'm getting little dopamine hits from walking

03:31:48.440 --> 03:31:52.440
because my thing is buzzing look you caught the thing

03:31:52.440 --> 03:31:54.440
that is going around right now or whatever

03:31:56.440 --> 03:32:00.440
then sweet I'm accomplishing the same thing my brain is happy because I'm playing

03:32:00.440 --> 03:32:04.440
a video game but I'm playing a video game without looking at a screen

03:32:04.440 --> 03:32:08.440
which is sick I have personally found a way to gamify this

03:32:08.440 --> 03:32:12.440
in a way that benefits me heavily and I enjoy therefore I think

03:32:12.440 --> 03:32:16.440
cool there you go

03:32:20.440 --> 03:32:24.440
you look at your pokemon when you get back I will search for four star

03:32:24.440 --> 03:32:28.440
and if I don't find any I transfer all of them

03:32:28.440 --> 03:32:32.440
so it takes me like seconds

03:32:34.440 --> 03:32:36.440
I don't care

03:32:38.440 --> 03:32:42.440
I think that's there's an incoming

03:32:42.440 --> 03:32:46.440
but there's no more curated I'm already forwarding

03:32:46.440 --> 03:32:50.440
that incoming to the relevant parties I don't know

03:32:50.440 --> 03:32:54.440
if we're going to be able to fix their issue in time they ordered the wrong size for

03:32:54.440 --> 03:32:58.440
a power outlet item and they want it changed

03:32:58.440 --> 03:33:02.440
to the right size before it ships it's possible that we'll be able to

03:33:02.440 --> 03:33:06.440
catch it before it shifts and just give you a refund but I don't know

03:33:06.440 --> 03:33:10.440
if we'll be able to change it

03:33:10.440 --> 03:33:14.440
the whole thing with power outlet all sales final see you later

03:33:16.440 --> 03:33:20.440
so we might be able to catch it and cancel it but I don't know if we'll be able to

03:33:20.440 --> 03:33:24.440
change it to something else that might go out of stock before we're able to look at it

03:33:24.440 --> 03:33:28.440
it's 9pm on Friday and the warehouse

03:33:28.440 --> 03:33:32.440
during heavy times like lime day is sometimes packing things

03:33:32.440 --> 03:33:36.440
over the weekend when our customer service is not in office so I don't

03:33:36.440 --> 03:33:40.440
I don't know if I can promise you

03:33:40.440 --> 03:33:44.440
I want to throw out another game or move that you can do with Pokemon Go

03:33:44.440 --> 03:33:48.440
because I've said this forever I think a lot of people play games incorrectly

03:33:48.440 --> 03:33:52.440
they only go for the incentives that the game tells them

03:33:52.440 --> 03:33:56.440
to go for they don't do things beyond that

03:33:56.440 --> 03:34:00.440
they don't find their own ways to create difficulties they don't find their own ways to have fun

03:34:00.440 --> 03:34:04.440
they just follow the byline or they follow the achievements that the game lays out

03:34:04.440 --> 03:34:08.440
or whatever else and Pokemon Go is one of those Pokemon has a not very popular feature

03:34:08.440 --> 03:34:12.440
called routes but a route could be like a trail that you can walk

03:34:12.440 --> 03:34:16.440
and when you get to the end it gives you like an extremely minor reward

03:34:16.440 --> 03:34:20.440
which is why it's not popular if you don't care about the reward so much

03:34:20.440 --> 03:34:24.440
and you do it because there's at least a little bit of reward while you walk along the route there's a slightly increased

03:34:24.440 --> 03:34:28.440
Pokemon spawn along the route while you're doing it

03:34:28.440 --> 03:34:32.440
so you can walk you can literally go for a little hike

03:34:32.440 --> 03:34:36.440
you can go with someone else whatever and you don't have to be actually distracted

03:34:36.440 --> 03:34:40.440
conversational or anything or be staring at your phone because you can just boop boop boop press the little button

03:34:40.440 --> 03:34:44.440
or just let it go off in your pocket automatically and you're literally not interacting

03:34:44.440 --> 03:34:48.440
with it at all and you can still have your little goopy goblin

03:34:48.440 --> 03:34:52.440
gamer brain gaining little little goopy goblin gamer brain

03:34:52.440 --> 03:34:56.440
little bonus nugget things and be out walking

03:34:56.440 --> 03:35:00.440
enjoying nature head up not staring at screen potentially conversating with another person

03:35:00.440 --> 03:35:04.440
it's freaking sick don't just do what the game wants you to do

03:35:04.440 --> 03:35:08.440
do the thing that you want to do and have fun with

03:35:08.440 --> 03:35:12.440
cool nice

03:35:12.440 --> 03:35:16.440
all right well that's it for the land show oh man I was sore I didn't talk for a little bit there

03:35:16.440 --> 03:35:20.440
and the braces got all like stuck into the like

03:35:20.440 --> 03:35:24.440
ragged flesh inside my lips we'll see you again next week

03:35:24.440 --> 03:35:28.440
same bad time same bad channel what a visual

03:35:28.440 --> 03:35:30.440
bye

03:35:48.440 --> 03:35:50.440
you