Time to preach out.
Are we live? Dan, am I supposed to be able to hear you through my headphones?
I'm in the background. Oh.
I see. I got one here. Oh.
Yeah, that's way better. A little hot though.
Yep.
Also, it sounds like old timey walkie-talkie.
Yes.
That might just be what it is though. Roger, Roger.
No, like really though, it sounds very. I just got pushed to talk.
Nice. Oh, is that being picked up?
Is what being picked up? Should we tell them?
Picked up your face. People in the background.
It's not too bad.
Better level on this one? I'm not worried about it for the show.
I want to make sure that they're aware.
Yeah, there's a sign on the door. All right.
Joe, you want me to tell them we're live now?
I know we're live.
Hey, Luke. Yeah, what's up?
I have a question for you. Yeah. Just to like totally trip people up.
Should your laptop count a bit more?
Yeah, the other way.
Beautiful. Sorry, my feet on this is very delayed.
Beautiful. Nice. Yeah, that works.
Frickin' hilarious.
I love it, I've heard. Should we ditch this?
Yeah, I probably will. Give me one sec.
Yeah, what is that? What is that? Oh, we didn't need that?
No. See, I get that out of there.
That's hilarious. I thought it was necessary. I thought it was part of the ARM or something.
I didn't look that close. No.
He didn't just hang it, right? Like it's... Okay.
Can we... It's fine.
I got it. No, I don't want it.
Can we...
Can we say where we are? I don't know.
I don't think we're live. You don't think so?
Why did my laptop just go to sleep?
Why am I getting blue? Huh?
Yeah, buddy, the Linus tapes, the Linus files.
Linus didn't kill himself.
Linus would never... Just talking to chat.
I love myself far too much.
Yeah. I don't have the button.
Yeah, yeah, you have to... There you go. I got you, fam.
Thanks. Thank you.
Dude, I did my narcissism test this week.
Wait, is that on float plate? Will be.
Is it gonna be on float plate?
I'm gonna spoil it a little bit.
I have more narcissistic tendencies than the average person.
What? No.
What? That's crazy.
It's not crazy. It's NPD. Okay.
We don't like the term crazy.
That didn't mean it that way.
Can I not hear myself?
Because it's a little bit speech jamming.
You shouldn't be able to hear yourself. Oh, I definitely do.
Guys, NPD is Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Talk. And anyone is on like a spectrum of narcissistic personality traits.
Yes. But being above the 50th percentile does not make you disordered.
I don't think there's like a firm threshold for what makes you disordered.
Like so many things that I think a disorder basically occurs when it starts to have a
negative impact on the life of you and the people around you.
But I've talked multiple times in the past about how I think there is a pre...
Either a predisposition or I think there is a feedback loop that is activated when people
achieve any kind of fame or notoriety or influence.
And I think that if you were to sample a population of influencers, you would in general get people
who score above average.
I think people think that I'm like almost the opposite.
Not even a little. For whatever reason. And that's definitely not true.
It's one of those things when like people in the audience will be like, we know you.
Blah, blah, blah. I'm like, eh. It's kind of amazing the two of us get along.
How similar we are. Yeah, to be honest.
Yeah, it works.
Okay.
Dude, it's industry day down here at the sauce of open.
So it's not like the actual full convention hasn't even started yet.
I have already seen multiple LTT bags.
Nice. Make an appearance. Nice.
There was also an exhibitor setting up a booth who had one of the screwdrivers.
Nice.
Why did they only have one? That's what you should have asked them.
My goodness. I only saw one. Put your laptop down more.
Oh. Yeah, you're right.
I get a little bit of glare when I do that.
There's someone sitting with you, right?
Do any of the people who are there have potato chips? How funny would it be if I gave you a potato chip?
Someone suggested it in the chat.
I don't know if we could pull it off. We're trying. I wouldn't bother to go buy chips over it, but I just thought it was kind of funny.
We're trying. Dan is hunting. Okay.
No, he's probably putting too much effort into it already.
Probably. I think he liked it too much. So he's like literally already gone.
Plastic Dan. If nothing else, we could do a fry and it could just like morph.
And that could be kind of funny. Nice. I like it.
Yeah. Someone Dan back will do a French fry. Dan.
I don't know where Dan went to get potato chips probably.
Or Chris says he would come for Dan. Yeah, go look.
We have someone hunting for Dan.
Why is this on supervised? Yeah. Is it going to be weird to do when totally alone but on the studio set?
I don't think it'll be that weird. No, because I usually don't look at you.
I noticed this behavior a little while ago. I look at you on the screen to the side of the camera.
So I'm almost never actually like looking into the camera or looking at you.
And then Dan is covered by his monitor. So like honestly, it does not feel different.
So I knew that actually, but I didn't know that it just wouldn't feel different.
That's kind of funny.
See the classic narcissism. You probably do that because you can see yourself on the screen as well.
Or classic. I am on camera. Okay.
Wait, we actually got it. Okay. So should we test this?
Should we try this? Wait, what are these?
Spicy Cajun crotaters?
Do you want to try to hand me one of these?
Sure. The problem is going to be the timing because it's not perfectly real.
Well, if I go slow. Here.
Other side.
Yes. Okay. Yeah.
I'll take off my watch. Does whoever's there have a watch?
Do we? Does anyone maybe borrow Dan's watch?
No, I can just take mine off. It doesn't matter. Okay.
Take your watch off. Okay.
And then how are we going to do the timing?
Can you queue them in? Yeah.
With fingers? Probably not.
Queue them in with fingers.
Oh, yeah. There we go. Where's the start?
Okay. Wait. Okay.
Ready? Hold on. Wow.
What the heck? You have to be like right in front of my face.
Okay. It has to come more from the side.
It has to come more from the side. Yeah.
Because right now it's kind of coming towards the front. Yeah, exactly.
Okay. So I'll have to go like at this kind of angle. So wait.
Too close. Too close. Okay.
Here we go.
That's going to be like impossible the time.
Luke, do you want to hear you? Yeah.
That'd be great. Here you go.
Good. Good.
No.
Okay. So because of the angle that his hand has to come in, I think
you need to kind of like derpy ARM it a little bit. You were going like actually to where I would be sitting.
You need to like pretend I'm actually right beside you.
Like not not very far away.
Here, let's try it again.
Yeah. Because yeah, show your hand in a little bit.
Like a little bit. Yeah, like there. Yeah.
Oh, no, it's all the way. Okay. All right.
Okay. So on one, everybody go on one.
Three, two, one.
You got to take the chip. Dude, the delay is enormous.
Yeah. The delay is so long.
I can take it right away. I was just, I was watching for the timing.
The delay is kind of funny.
So we could do it on a cue from our end.
Yeah.
Well, I'm going to offer to show you a chip and you'll be like,
sure, and then I will reach over.
Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah.
No problem. Okay, sure. How far into the show are we going to do that?
Intro. I'll do my two topics. You'll do your two topics.
And I'll be like, oh, hey, before we roll the intro. I don't think you can hear, but we're going to do it in the intro.
I see you don't have a snack. Would you like to, would you like a chip?
You'll be like, okay. And I'll be like, here you go.
And then right as I say, here you go, I'll reach. There you go.
And then you'll take it. You should eat it out of his hand. That'd be way better.
I could, I mean, I could do that. You know, you know your hand.
Okay. Yeah. I thought you'd be fine with it.
This one just broke. Sure.
All right. Cool. This is what I signed up for.
Oh, okay. We're going to do this thing.
Let's do this thing. Make it more unhinged by having a bite into it and not eat it fully.
They're just like, not even grab the whole thing.
Oh, I just lost audio. Your headphones are on backwards.
He wouldn't download a chip. We would Gigabyte 1024.
Isn't the keyboard supposed to be on the left all the time?
These are silly. Look, there's a red thing on the right side.
So look right here. Got it.
Why isn't the key one the left though? I didn't design it.
I thought that was like a thing that everybody universally agreed was a good idea.
No, yeah, I agree with you.
Okay.
One more practice? Yes, I do because I don't know what my level is.
Okay. So Linus is going to ask, ask your thing Linus.
Hello, hello. Oh, hey. Oh, you guys don't have any snacks.
You don't have any snacks there. No.
Did you remember to bring snacks? No, nothing. Oh, I got chips.
Do you want one? Sure. Okay, here you go.
And then I might just roll the intro right as you take the bite, actually.
Then I don't have to pull my hand back.
This is good because I can't hear anything.
I'm just like, I think it's okay. It's happening.
Don't worry. I'll drop the chip. I keep reusing the same one because it's my last big one left in the bag.
These are like extremely crunchy. Did I get the level right there?
Yeah, I think so. Right here? Yeah.
That's where I'm going to come in. Okay.
We doing this thing?
I need to pick a couple of topics.
See that?
Yeah, you're still good.
Okay, I'm just opening up the dashboard.
I got two.
All right, we're ready to do this thing?
Oh, man.
Now that I'm not signed into the YouTube dashboard on my WAN computer,
I have to have my other one next to me.
Okay. But...
Sorry, just booting up.
What camera is that? It seems acceptable.
Nice.
Oh, it's a Lumix. It's an S2. Awful camera.
Parable.
That's a Lumix one. Lumix S1H.
There is... No, I don't think there's a disco ball in here.
Shot what? Inside. BoBer or film?
Extremely good.
Are we almost ready? Let's do it.
I'm pressing it. I'm resuming the selected.
It's pressed.
How are you doing, everybody, and welcome to the WAN Show.
We've got a great show lined up for you today.
A YouTuber is facing potential jail time for showing off emulated games,
but I've shown off emulated games lots of times.
Luke, am I going to jail?
Maybe. No. Also, NVIDIA isn't the only one who figured out
that they can manipulate the public perception of their products
by altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further with reviewers.
The new Superman movie has apparently been accused
of manipulating critic scores on Rotten Tomatoes.
We'll be talking about that because I think it kind of affects
our ability to believe anything that we see from the media these days.
What else we got going on? Grock is now a hot anime girl and definitely no longer Hitler.
Also, Xbox Game Pass subscribers can stream their console games on PC now.
Luke, are you OK? What do you mean?
You seem hungry. I am hungry.
I got snacks. Do you want a snack? Yeah, I'd love a snack.
OK, here you go. Thanks.
The show is brought to you today by Roeve Lab,
Odu and AMD. Alongside, of course, our rap partner Dbrand,
our laptop partner Dell, and our chair partner.
Whatever that brown thing Luke is sitting on is.
Just kidding, secret lab. I want to jump right into our headline topic today,
which is, of course, the Italian YouTuber Francesco
once were nerd, Salissini, whose home was raided
by the Italian Economic Police. And around 30 consoles, mostly retro emulation handhelds,
were confiscated. This is freaking kind of wild.
Salissini is being accused of promoting pirated copyright materials
after showing off emulated Sony and Nintendo games in his videos,
something that a lot of creators, including us,
have done numerous times over the years.
Authorities are claiming that once were nerd
is in violation of Article 171 in Italy's copyright law,
a law that was apparently written in Get This.
Actually, no. Oh, Luke, did you read it already? Yeah.
You read it already. OK, Dan, guess what year this law was written?
1905. You know what?
You're honestly not off by more than half.
1941, he's now facing a maximum sentence of 15,000 euro
and Get This, three years in jail.
I thought it was an or. Italian copyright enforcement is built different
and has a history of strong ARM moves like having the country's internet regulator
force Google to poison DNS to block illegal streams of soccer.
The original complainant who brought forward the case
will not be publicly known until the end of the initial investigation.
But let's be real, we all know it's Nintendo,
though for legal reasons, we must say that we are not sure.
Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.
Wow. So, man, is there ever a lot to unpack here
because the line from my understanding and remember,
the legality around emulation is not black and white
and does vary according to the particular region
and authority that you are subject to.
So like, there's definitely parts of the world where
we actually just shot a video last week
reacting to Indian setups and Sam, who grew up in India,
one of our thumbnail artists, oh, also editor,
he was basically like, I mean, yeah, that was pretty much the reason that PlayStation was popular
was because you could just get the games for like
60 cents or something like that. I forget what the actual math worked out to,
but I was looking at him going like, that's practically the raw cost of a blank CD.
Like, what are we even talking about here? Like, you're not even essentially paying for the labor
of someone to take the blank disk and put it in a thing and copy it.
That's wild. And he's like, yeah, but that was basically what everybody did.
So I'm not saying India's like that anymore. It might be.
I legitimately don't know.
But what I'm trying to illustrate is that depending on where you are,
the enforcement and the laws around this stuff
can be very different. So from a North American standpoint,
as far as I've been able to tell,
owning, like, possessing and using as a consumer,
things like emulators and ROMs
is generally regarded to be...
but certainly not something that you would be
fined or especially given prison time over.
However, producing circumventing digital locks
or distributing these copyrighted materials
could be problematic if your profile gets raised high enough
that somebody decides to go after you.
The idea that you could just be sent
like an emulation console from, you know,
one of these Chinese companies that produces them,
just show using it and go to jail for up to three years,
what? That's a little ridiculous.
Like, this is a nonviolent crime. Like, dude, there's...
I hate to be that guy because, like,
you know, it can be...
but like, the 2008 financial crisis.
Oh, yeah. Did anyone go to jail for any of that?
I don't think so. We're talking about a pirated video game.
I think, like, one guy went to jail for a short period of time.
The what-what says yes. Yeah, one guy from Citadel.
One dude, yeah. Exactly, right?
So what are we even talking about? Like, I've never been to prison.
Everything I know about it tells me
that if your crime was playing a video game
off of a ROM file, you probably don't belong there.
Well, he also spent a 30-month sentence,
so less time.
Unflipping believable.
Just goes to show you that it's not a question
of how much damage has your crime done.
It's a question of who you did it to.
Okay, we have a few discussion questions here. Do you believe, mmm, this is a good one,
do you believe that we have the right,
as creators, to show off emulated games?
Does that stance change if you do or don't own original copies of the game?
So, no, I don't think that we necessarily
have the right to show off emulated copies of games.
However, what I will say is that
I do consider, generally speaking,
us showing content on devices
that can play it back
as being promotional in nature of that content.
So, for a while there, I was getting a lot of pushback from some people internally
about how we would play movies in our TV reviews, for instance.
Like, I would put How to Train Your Dragon
from DreamWorks, or I'd put Encanto
on the TV in our reviews of a monitor
of a TV or whatever the case may be, or projector.
And they kind of went, hey, look,
if Disney, you know, or DreamWorks,
or one of these guys decided to come after us,
like, that would be pretty scary. And my response there has been, okay, look,
yeah, fair use is a defense.
It's not a well-established set of guidelines
for what you can and can't do.
But if we were to look at this, A, I think we would have a very strong fair use defense.
We are doing no harm to the original content.
We are not acting as a replacement for the original content.
If anything, we are promoting the original content.
What we're doing is highly transformative. Nothing that we're doing in a review of a TV
replaces in any way the plot of how to train your dragon.
You know what I mean? I think that our fair use defense
would be extremely strong, number one. And number two, they'd be crazy to come after us for it.
Like, imagine being the guy at Disney that's like,
yeah, these guys talked about how great this movie looks
in HDR, and I'm mad.
Like, so we're going to start a war
with someone who is literally promoting our...
And you know what's really crazy, though,
is that kind of logic does exist.
Like, I remember having a really stupid conversation
with someone in the Intel booth one year at,
I think it was CES, where they boasted on the little placard
next to their upcoming platform that they could hit some number of FPS in some game.
And I was like, guys, a bit of an oversight.
The game on the system, that's a different game. Like, you guys know that, right?
Embarrassing. And they're like, uh, yeah, we know.
But those guys want us to pay, like, a huge licensing fee to show it.
Now, that is a little different because in that case, Intel is clearly making commercial use of that software.
However, I would argue that that kind of commercial use
clearly benefits both parties, and it would be in the best interest of a game developer
to have their game be a feature demo for, like, a hot new piece of hardware.
This was back when Intel had products that people wanted.
And so, you know, when it comes to commercial use, yeah, the rules do change a little bit,
but in general, I see a clear benefit
to having your content featured. With that said, there is clearly no commercial benefit
to, say, Nintendo, not picking that name
for any particular reason, but let's just say Nintendo,
to having their older content that you can't even buy
be showcased on a product that literally pirated it.
So I do think that that defense falls apart a fair bit.
With that said, I have made clear in the past
that I feel that if I own a copy of a piece of content
on one format that I literally will lose zero sleep
over my believed right to take that format and enjoy it,
that license to that content and enjoy it in any way that I want.
If I own a Super Nintendo cartridge for Final Fantasy 6
and I have that cartridge sitting on my shelf in my possession
and I decide to download a ROM and play it on my Steam Deck
or my RG Ally or whatever,
I will sleep like a baby.
I don't care. And where I end up in a bit of a grayer area
is if I own, say, for instance, Final Fantasy Tactics was a game that I used multiple times
to test older handhelds to see if they could handle PlayStation 1 emulation.
It is a bit of a heavier game, especially when you get into some of the summoner effects
and particles and everything.
And if I really think about it now,
I do own a disc. I own a license for the game.
I consider it well within my right to play that game
if I own a license for it. I have no desire to dust off my PlayStation 2
and pop it in the disc. I know it's a PS1 game.
I have a backwards compatible PlayStation 2. Relax.
I have no desire to do that, so I'm just going to play it on whatever I want.
You could have just said... But showing it on camera, I don't know.
You don't even have to say the number. Yeah, but I don't have a PlayStation 1.
I'm on the record as not having owned a PlayStation 1, so who knows. You could have just not said a number.
I know, but I have a PlayStation 2. It's a Miotic.
Look, what do you want from me? I'm not going to pull it out to play Final Fantasy Tactics.
I'm going to just play the ISO. Sorry. I don't know.
I'm just saying you didn't have to do the whole disclaimer if you just said PlayStation.
So with everything I've said, do you think we have the right as creators
to show off emulated games with or without
owning a license, a copy of the game?
What do you think?
If you don't with or without, you're saying?
Yeah. What do you think?
Should we be allowed to show emulated games? We've done it.
That we don't own? That we do. That we don't.
Anything. Yeah, I mean, I'm generally in the defense
of education is not a thing
that should be stopped in most cases.
I'm only saying most because normally I would say ever,
but then I thought like cooking meth and stuff.
That's probably not good.
Generally, I don't like the black and white here.
Generally, I would say if you if you own it, it's clearly above board.
And if you don't own it,
it's not something that I think I would want to go after
somebody for, but I could understand there being a legal framework for that.
And I think that would probably be fine. I mean, what if we applied this to like another form of art,
right? Like let's say that let's let's bring it let's bring it home,
right? Like let's say that it was a t-shirt design,
you know, or let's say let's say like let's say that it was
some other kind of intellectual property. If somebody's YouTube channel was basically showing off
low cost clones of RIP and explaining to people how they
can get our t-shirt design without paying for it.
Would you think that's cool?
I don't know if this makes a ton of sense,
but no, I would not think that's cool. But if they showed it in a generic way,
I would think that's cool. In a generic way.
What do you mean? Like if you if you showed somebody like here is,
you know, here's the process. You have this graphic on your computer.
You can look, you can scan.
You can scan some graphics somehow.
I don't know. You can take this picture that you have in some physical
format or you can take this item that you have in a physical format.
You can scan it on a scanner and this is how you can get it onto a shirt.
Awesome. But what if obviously that knowledge could be used to
rip off one of our shirts, but that part doesn't bother me.
I think it would only bother me if it was like, look, do this to this shirt and steal it.
But then it's like, oh. But that's, I mean, that that's kind of the parallel here.
Right? Like they're basically. I don't know what type of content they made.
So they're making content showing off like pre-pirated
consoles that are just loaded up with ROMs that you pay a
fraction of the price for. And they're just they just come with a bunch of copyrighted
games on them. And someone had said LTT would 100% take that down like
we've done already. I don't know what you're talking about legitimately.
I actually have no idea what you're talking about.
We've, we've ourselves ordered counterfeit LTT merch and
shown it on our channel. Anyway, get a legal department or some lawyer.
No, no, no, no, no. I think it would depend because like, are they, okay,
so they're showing this off, but are they trying to sell it?
I mean, they're, they're reviewing it. I think that, I think that there's an implicit, I think
there's an implicit promotional element to doing a review that
encourages in some way the, the consumption of these goods.
I, I, and remember, I'm not asking if you think it's legal,
right? Because we're not lawyers. Don't tune in.
This is not a legal podcast. What I'm asking you is, would you think that's cool?
That was my phrasing. Would you think that's cool? Are they being cool if they do that?
I don't, I don't think so. Yeah.
I don't think it's that cool. I don't think I would think it's cool.
Now, someone did bring up, someone did bring up in the chat.
And I think this is a really good point that one of the
foundational arguments around emulation and game piracy,
especially of retro games, is game preservation.
A lot of the time these are games that cannot be obtained
through legitimate means anymore. And I've, again, I've made my position on that pretty clear
as well, that if I have no legal, legitimate way to obtain
something, I sleep like a baby, you know?
Like if I, if I lived in a territory, if I lived in Egypt
or Libya or something, and I wanted to watch western content
that just simply wasn't available via streaming or physical
media in my region, I'd sleep like a frickin' baby.
Yeah, I don't mind you acquiring that at all. Yeah.
I do that now sometimes. Yeah. So, yeah, so, so unique username here goes, okay, you know,
does your situation change somewhat if we make the
parallel the same? What if it was a shirt we no longer sell?
That is 100% still RIP.
And when I say RIP, I don't mean rest in peace. I mean our intellectual property.
And it is our choice whether we produce it or not.
Now, in some cases, I can tell you that I wouldn't care.
I'd be like, yeah, fair enough. We don't make it anymore. Like go for it.
I do think I agree with that. But, however, and look, like the world is gray.
The world is gray. Here's a shade of gray.
What if it was a design that we specifically produced only a
limited quantity of that our customer, part of our agreement
with the customers who bought it, is that only a fixed number
of these will exist? Well, then I'd feel like I have to protect it.
Because it's not about me at that point. It's about maintaining the exclusivity that people paid
for. People paid good money for it. And you might not agree that they should pay for that, but
they did do it. And that was their expectation.
Here's a weird angle. What about a recreation?
What about a faithful but imperfect recreation?
I mean, realistically, I can tell you guys straight up that
it's not the kind of thing that we would pursue any legal
action over. I think that there's just, there's a spectrum of how cool
is it or how not cool is what they're doing.
And I guess what I'm trying to say is I think jail time is
absurd, obscene, ridiculous, and should be, should not be
legal. It should not be legal to put someone in jail for playing
video games.
There's even like, because it's beyond reasonable doubt,
right? Like have we crossed the threshold of beyond reasonable
doubt? Could he have conceivably thought possibly maybe that these
games were licensed? Maybe.
I don't know.
Luke never underestimate human ignorance.
If I just buy this console, you know, I don't know.
It's not impossible. You know better.
Obviously, I know better. And he probably knows better.
Yeah. And he probably knows better.
But remember, beyond reasonable doubt, you have to prove he knows better.
You have to prove he knew.
So, what do you think?
What do you think about my question? What if it's a recreation of one of our products?
What if someone, Northern Lights, you know, I don't think we sell Northern Lights anymore.
What if someone takes... Or Northern Lights is the desk pad.
Did we have a Northern Lights shirt? Didn't we?
I don't know. I don't remember. Anyway.
Whatever that one was called with the mountains. Yeah. If somebody like re-drew it and it was almost like a
tribute or fan art. I've always been very supportive of any kind of tribute
or fan art. We've even gone as far as like promoting it on the
show and on social stuff like that. In my opinion, if it's going to be an exclusive item and
you didn't get it, and this is not the company's
dance, but in my opinion, if you did a recreation that
was your own, you didn't just like literally copy
paste. That's cool in my opinion.
But in the case of these ROMs, in the case of the simulation, that's not the case.
So what I was trying to get around to is that while I
strongly disagree that anyone should go to jail over
the theft of supposedly, you know, tens of dollars or
hundreds of dollars of video games, especially in the
world that we live in, I do clip this.
Go ahead. I do see why Nintendo is upset about it.
I can see their perspective.
I think they need to just take a bit of a chill pill
here though. And hopefully they have the good sense to not pursue
jail time over this. Hopefully.
If anyone from Nintendo is watching, get this up the
corporate ladder. Sending people to jail over gaming on emulation devices
is not a good look.
If it's Nintendo. Early in the full-plane chat, I said, don't assume laws in
Italy are the same as in Canada. I didn't. We never did.
Never happened. At no point in time did that happen. But in general, you should, the fundamental principle
of innocent until proven guilty, my understanding is
pretty well established in at least the western world as
something we should aspire to at the very least.
Does it always hold up in practice? No.
Not here, not anywhere. But that's something that we should generally aspire to.
Yeah. Oh.
Yeah. Anyway, we've got a couple of more discussion questions.
Most of them, I guess, we kind of covered as we were talking
about it.
Yeah. We're not talking about pizza or pasta.
I don't need the entire country of Italy upset at me.
Luke, do you want to pick a next topic? Sure.
Let's talk about this Xbox thing. The motor is short.
But Xbox Game Pass subscribers can stream their console games
on PC now. This is directly from Microsoft and a quote.
Xbox insiders in the PC gaming preview who are also Game Pass
ultimate members can stream select console games that they own
beyond the Game Pass catalog on the Xbox PC app.
This includes console only games that previously couldn't be
played using the Xbox PC app. Very cool.
When I first read this, I thought this was just games that
were on both platforms. But the fact that you could stream console only games is
actually genuinely pretty sick. Yeah, it's progress.
And not personally a Game Pass fan.
But I think, like Linus said, this is progress. This seems better.
This seems good. This is a good thing for gamers.
Yeah. I need to see as much as it was exciting to hear Microsoft talk
about when they announced the ROG Xbox Ally or Xbox ROG Ally
X. I can't remember. Whatever. The Ally 2.
I think the latter. Yeah. When Microsoft announced the Ally 2 alongside ASUS, you know,
it was very exciting to hear about the better integration
between the Xbox experience on PC and the Xbox experience
on console. But one of the things that many, especially, you know, Xbox
console fans, what few of them remain, brought up is that,
OK, Microsoft, as great as it is, that I can play any of my
cross-platform dual-license games on this supposedly
Xbox console, this still isn't an Xbox because I can't play
my Xbox exclusive games. And many third-party titles do not allow me to play on PC.
They don't come with the dual-license. There are still Xbox platform exclusive-license games that
you can buy. And so, you know, that was the strongest argument that I heard
for why the Xbox Ally X, to whatever it is, is not, in fact,
an Xbox. But this seems like part of Microsoft's push to really
continue to chip away at the barriers that make something
Xbox versus PC from a content perspective.
So I find it pretty exciting. And in response to our discussion question, did you also think
this was already possible? No, I did, in fact, know that you couldn't do that.
Yeah, I didn't know that at all. But it did take me a minute to kind of go, OK, so wait,
hold on, how is this different from what's going on? So I definitely see where you're coming from.
Thank you, Ryder, who prepped that. That was a pretty short one.
One thing I'm wondering is, what games are truly
Xbox exclusive still? Not many.
It's more that the license is only for your Xbox, rather than
getting the dual-license with your purchase so that you can
play that game on your Xbox or on your PC with a single purchase.
Got it, OK. Yeah.
Well, that doesn't really solve a huge problem for me then.
Game Pass could theoretically give you that anyways. So like it really isn't.
Well, not every game is on Game Pass. So any game that you bought not on Game Pass for your Xbox.
That doesn't have dual-license. That's right. You can now stream it.
Yeah, it's a niche problem. But it's one that as an Xbox gamer, I would find frustrating.
It's still a good thing. It's a very minor good thing, but it's still a good thing.
Damn it. It's progress, Luke. I'll take progress where I can get it in this complicated world where
people are going to jail for playing Super Mario World on a pirate handheld.
Yeah, that's clearly stupid. Speaking of interesting progress, YouTube rolls out beta for A.B.
testing of titles to a small subset of users.
I think a lot of YouTube enjoyers probably know at this point that
there's been A.B. testing for thumbnails for quite some time.
But yeah, now they're rolling out for a small subset title testing.
We have some images of what it looks like. I can't show those off my laptop.
I got you. For now, creators can test three titles or three thumbnails or three title
thumbnail pairs. Interesting.
Very cool. As far as we have seen, it does not run all combinations of title and
thumbnail. That's what I expected it was going to do, but okay.
With thumbnail, A.B.C., et cetera. This should allow creators greater ability to test the different ways of
packaging their videos, which is cool. This is a good thing, in my opinion.
Like with thumbnail testing, it uses watch time as the primary indicator
of what is the best title, which I think makes sense given the
metrics that YouTube currently cares about. LZT writer Adam went back through some older videos of his to test out the
feature. Here are some tests that have been run or are currently running.
The first listed title was the title at the start of the test.
That's really interesting.
Oh, and we're already seeing some results that indicate good potential
changes. This is really interesting.
Notable weird behaviors in viewership numbers after starting and running
these tests on this video are included in some of the pictures that Linus is
likely going through. Also, viewership numbers don't show as much weirdness on videos with more
momentum, which is interesting.
Kind of makes sense. This one was kind of dead in the water, and then we changed the titles.
It gets a little bit of life. Yeah, a little bit of life got breathed into it, whereas this is one that
just kind of already had kind of leveled off and had some decent momentum.
Yeah. But you can see that watch time share way bigger for VR doesn't get better than
this big screen beyond two versus they changed the VR game again.
Too vague posty. It's easy to see in retrospect what you screwed up, but it's not always easy to
come up with a title in the first place. Yeah, this is really cool.
There was a heavily updated comment on Floatplane that the Floatplane title
for Tech Gripes 2 was better than the YouTube title, and the YouTube audience
is inconclusive. Oh, wow.
This is very... I think I'm assuming he means heavily upvoted.
Yeah. So this one, the original title won after Floatplane said that they really didn't
resonate with the YouTube title, but barely, just barely.
You can't always perfectly trust the Firefox users, you know?
That's the thing about Firefox users is they know all about foxes and fire,
but maybe not other things.
Discussion question, do you worry about potential effects this can have on the
experience for browsing videos?
It's going to make it harder to find them, because if you remember the title of
a video, I wonder if they have some way in their search.
I've found YouTube's metadata-based searching is really strong.
If I kind of remember the approximate vibe of what a video was and kind of
what we talked about, they used the transcript, they used all the metadata
at their disposal to try to return as accurate a search result as possible.
Where I run into trouble is when they don't actually show me my search results,
right? Like when they have two of my search results and then it's like
continue watching other users enjoyed friggin...
No, give me the search results, I'm trying to see my search results.
Yeah, I'm hoping that they retain the old or the other various titles that were
used in their search metadata stuff.
As long as they do that, I think it'll be fine. That was the first concern that came to me.
Other than that, I don't think it's going to have a major effect on browsing
videos, to be honest. Titles are already incredibly clickbaity across YouTube.
I honestly don't know that this will necessarily be worse.
Linus pointed out earlier that one of the titles did worse because it was too
vague posty. And if that is a thing...
It's based on watch time. And that's for a very good reason.
YouTube has over time moved away from focusing on things like click through
because what they found was that even though people might click on a particular
thumbnail, I mean, Phil DeFranco was famous for doing this way back in the day
and he's scrubbed the internet of some of his old habits.
So it's actually, I wanted to talk about this in a video on thumbnails
and titling a little while back and I literally couldn't find anything of the
old Phil DeFranco show, Sexy Phil, where everyone of his thumbnails
would just have giant boobies all over it.
And then they evolved the rules, so he had to have at least one frame
of the actual video that had giant boobies so that he could include that in the
thumbnail. And it was a whole thing, right? So the meta has evolved from click through, which YouTube has found does not
generate a quality experience for the viewer to focusing on watch time.
So by forcing us, not even telling us which one has the best click through,
by forcing us to optimize for watch time, what YouTube is incentivizing,
again, by forcing us to optimize for is promising something to the viewer
that ultimately will be fulfilled, right?
Because you're not going to hang around for a long watch duration on a video
that makes a promise in the title and thumbnail that it doesn't fulfill.
With that said, I do think there are behaviors that are going to be incentivized
that are less desirable, like, you know, taking a while to get to the point,
like kind of, you know, leading people, leading people, leading people on.
And I don't, I have no problem with storytelling.
I love storytelling, like setting up and creating an environment where I'm trying
to give you an enticing teaser for what's to come.
That is different from just, you know, blue balling it.
Yeah. So I...
It could be a good thing. I'm going to hold on to some hope and say that it could be a good thing.
Is this, is this it, Luke? Is this the positive WAN Show?
I mean, other than the first things we talked about. Other than...
Is the rest of... And probably the next things we'll talk about.
Shhh. Oh yeah, yeah.
The next topic, if left up to me, will be negative. So we'll see how that goes.
Okay. I'm not going to let you go next yet then.
You want Adam Thoughts first? Sure.
I could see this being... where did it go?
There we go. I could see this being a nuisance for multi-account users where video progress isn't tracked.
Yeah, so if you watch something on your work account,
but then you go home and it gets served to you
and now it has a different title or thumbnail, you might not realize you've seen it.
I think that's a bit of an edge case though. That's probably mostly gonna be okay
because once the trial is done, it settles on one.
Now- Yeah, and that's already happening with thumbnails.
And I do think that that could change in the future. Like if I had the ability to have like
three different title thumbnail combos and say like this one's more tuned for hardcore techies
and this one's more tuned for a more casual tech-adjacent audience and this one.
I would- That feels like- I would use that. That's gotta be the future somehow.
I would use that so hard. But yeah, that would be a nuisance for sure,
especially if you got profiled slightly differently across your work and your personal use,
which could happen. I mean- You very likely would. Would you like to watch different content at home
versus what I watch at work?
On YouTube? Why not? There's lots of interesting stuff on YouTube.
The next question is, do you see any way this system could be gamed?
And yeah, that's the point, I think. Yeah, I mean, what is gaming, right?
Optimizing. The entire purpose of this feature
is to optimize for more watch time. And that's in both YouTube's and creator's best interests.
I don't know if it's in the audience's best interest, but hey, if you don't like YouTube,
you don't have to watch it, I guess. I'm excited to see a spiffing Brit video. Oh no, everyone's leaving.
Everyone's stopping watching. Just kidding, just kidding, they're hooked.
I'd be interested to see a spiffing Brit video where he breaks down ways to min-max it somehow
or something or like- I mean, it's almost certainly coming.
It'd be interesting to see, like, okay, comment or like this comment,
you know, if you got this version of the title or something like that, or what if there's some,
oh man. That's actually pretty good, I like it.
How many times can you redo these types of tests?
Is it just once? I don't know if there's a limit.
Yeah, interesting.
Being able to just constantly change the title and the thumbnail, especially if it gives you
even a small bit of a boost just because it's trying to see
if people like the new version, could be something that's gained,
but I'm sure they would become privy to that pretty quick.
So, I don't know, it's interesting.
Yes, Rosa Braga in Floatplane Chat
is bringing up the whole Blake Lively,
Ryan Reynolds thing that's going on right now. This just broke today, I think.
16 YouTube commentators and 20 Twitter users
are facing their private info, including credit card and bank account info,
being handed over to Blake and Ryan by Google and X
because they talked unfavorably about the Blake Lively lawsuit.
I am reading this comment. I have not validated any of this. Wait, what?
That doesn't make any sense. Their credit card info?
It sounds flip and wild. I think it's very much developing,
but yeah, pretty much they are not happy
about what some social media users said about them
and now they have learned about the Streisand effect, I guess, which is cool.
I mean, that's a good thing to learn about. I've personally learned about the Streisand effect
multiple times. Yeah. And now I know about it.
I don't know if you did. I think I have. Okay.
I mean, you don't think that I've found out about it?
I think you have. I've certainly f**ked around. Maybe it's the lack of the lesson on the other end of it.
I said I learned it. I didn't say I retained it.
All right, fair enough. Why do you think I have to learn it multiple times?
I'm just something of a hard, you know what? I'm just not gonna go there.
Oh my. It just takes me a long time to learn. That's all I'm saying.
I'm just, that's all I'm saying.
Dan, you're not here to put the little card on to tell me to move on.
What are we supposed to be doing? You gotta get a ring the bell app on your phone.
This was mentioned earlier. Yeah. You can just yell ding.
We got lots of topics up to you guys. We've been doing an announcement.
Well, we've done two topics, so you're supposed to tell me the new thing to do. I just forget what it is.
Oh, announcements. Okay. This is a warning.
Whoa. The warning is that you're...
Wait, are we supposed to start with explaining merch messages? Well, I don't know.
I just do what Dan tells me. And then read. Yeah, but if he said go...
Go f**k yourself, San Diego.
If he said go to announcements, the first step of going to announcement is explaining merch messages.
I said read an announcement. Oh no, he said read an announcement. I am wrong.
I apologize, Dan, it's one breaking protocol. I'm gonna do this now.
Okay, this is a warning because you only have until tomorrow
to take advantage of Lime Day, our annual summer sales event.
And yeah, we're probably not gonna extend it again because we actually have moved through a lot of stuff.
It's been pretty solid. If you haven't been keeping up, we dropped some brand new deals this week,
including saving up to 50% on a Scribe Driver and Notebook bundle.
So that's just $29.99 US on the US site
and $34.99 Canadian dollars on the Canadian site.
I cannot both read this document and show the deals at the same time.
So that's something. Do you want me to read it?
Sure. Where do you end the Scribe Driver one?
Yeah, Scribe Driver and Notebook bundle deal.
You can save $30 on our hydro phase swim shorts
You can save $25 and get an LTT hat for $15
or save $32 on a water resistant LTT hat pro
for only $17.99 on both sites.
We also have great deals on our blank hoodies, premium joggers, and our retro monitor pet cave.
And if you're shopping from outside the US, we also have great deals on our mystery water bottles
and hoodies for 50% off or more.
All of this and more are deals and they're available at LMG.gg slash lime.
Okay, I definitely did not manage to keep up with you there,
but there's that. I probably should have slowed down a little bit. Part of my drill is like, he'll figure it out.
There's the hydro phase swim shorts.
Yep, lots of deals, all right. It was blank hoodies, premium joggers,
retro monitor pet cave. And don't forget about some of the deals
that have just been running the whole time, 200 bucks Canadian.
So that's like 150 US or something like that for our commuter backpack and 8-bit dough ultimate bundle.
I've seen a lot of mystery screwdriver enjoyers on the Reddit.
Yes, people have been all over the mystery screwdrivers.
So let me see, there was, oh, but that's not all.
We are bringing back the power outlet
for non-US customers. So this is on the global site.
You'll have to read this again because I have to show them how it works.
Sure, I'll try to do a more followable job. Non-US customers, this is your chance
to get amazing deals on open box and pre-owned goods.
Not only are we bringing back our power packs,
which is a randomly selected assortment of items
from our returns, discounted at an amazing price.
We have power packs for tops. We have power packs for bottoms.
We have power packs for outerwear. And we have power packs for desk pads.
We have two packages.
You okay there? I'm hearing from Artie real quick. Hold on.
Pause.
Linus, open them up. But do you have a package on the table?
Yeah, I got power packs. We have two packages on the top of the table to open up.
Three, but sure. Linus, open them up. They're under you. I know where they are.
All right. But I'm showing the site first. Yeah, sounds good.
Well, no, I think he wants you to open them now. Okay, but you were in mid-sentence.
I was. What mid-sentence was I on?
No, no, I was basically done. We have power packs for tops, bottoms, outerwear,
and desk pads. Is this a power pack of five bottoms
or a five pack of power bottoms? I think it's a power pack of five bottoms.
Yeah. I don't know. Quite a party in there.
I don't know for sure. Anyway, the point is I have a couple of power packs.
The one I'm holding here is large tops.
So there is, I wanna make this abundantly clear.
Abundantly clear, okay? I hope this is abundantly clear.
Just because I open a particular assortment of shirts here
does not mean that that is what you will receive.
It could be anything that has been returned to LTT Store
over the last four years. Like we have not done a good job
of managing our returned inventory. So you could end up with quite literally anything.
Are the bottoms, what size are the bottoms? Are they medium or small?
Well, you've ordered the size that you want. Hmm, I meant the bags that you have.
Oh, I don't know. All right, so wow, what did I end up with?
The old school circuit shirt.
I got, oh, this is a really nice one.
Oh, this is a, wait, this is a medium. Okay, I think this is just an example one.
Okay, yeah, cool. This is just an example one. I got the RGB T-shirt.
I got, oh, seriously? We still have some of these kicking around?
That's crazy. What? That's crazy.
What the heck? Well, it's returns, dude. Like it's anything that's come back.
You got to be kidding me. Yeah, but that's like actually like a decade old,
isn't it? Like I'm not even kidding. I got a privateer shirt.
And I actually, this is hilarious. I got the one I'm wearing.
That's kind of nuts. Freakin' hilarious. Okay.
The OGLT T-shirt, when was the last time we sold that?
I would have never guessed to see one of those, dude. One thousand years ago.
I had a couple of people ask, why not the US?
So it's because of tariffs.
These are items that were returned to our Canadian warehouse at a time
when we only shipped from Canada. So they're all here in Canada.
We have actually started shipping some of our US orders
from the US. And so that is part of why some of the pricing
and some of the deals have been different because we've had to split up our logistics
across our Canadian and our US distribution centers.
So this is something that our team is going through
and grading and making sure that things are adhering
to our quality standards and that we are shipping from Canada.
So for us to ship a pack of T-shirts into the US right now,
I mean, it depends on what the feeling of the day is
in terms of the import tariffs. So it's just not something that we're able to deal with.
Mm-hmm. Here's a Canadian, sorry.
Can I pay the tarry and get the rare stuff? One of the things is you don't know
if you're going to get the rare stuff. Yeah, you might not get rare stuff. So like, I don't know what to tell you.
You might only get new things. It's not a guarantee that you're going to get a shirt
that I haven't seen in years.
Okay. Here, I've got a power pack of desk pads.
Oh, Lordy.
What? All right. Oh, I got a Wansho desk pad,
the one with the hexagons, bestagons all over it.
Yeah. I got the LTX-23 Vancouver Skyline desk pad.
This one's actually a really sick design.
I really like that one. Yeah. I got this one that really didn't sell very well.
I wonder why. It did really great out of the gate and then people got over it, basically.
I think that's kind of how meme products work. The entire group of people that'll be interested in it
will buy it like within the first two days and then that's about it.
And then finally, I have a power pack that is not labeled.
Again, these are demo ones. I doubt they're tops because this is fricking heavy.
It's probably outerwear or bottoms.
All right. It's outerwear. Oh, dude.
Hold on a second. How much? Is that the jacket?
How much are these power packs?
Is that the down jacket? The outerwear one is $200.
Okay. Okay. Okay.
That's a little less scary. But yes, this is a 3D down jacket,
which was already worth more than $200. Remember?
Again. Okay. I want to get different things.
Yeah. It's a large Luke.
Sorry. It's not an XL. Okay.
Yeah, I know. I know you want another one. Yep.
Oh, man. A dropout.
Dropout hoodie in red. This one's fricking awesome.
Those didn't sell that well. No, they did. Remember, these are returns.
So I'm saying some of this stuff didn't sell that well,
but that's not where these are coming from. Got it.
Okay. Yeah. Because I really liked the dropout line.
Whoa. Dude, a swag kit. Oh, that's another throwback.
Yeah. This is not nearly as old as the other one,
but not seen one of those in a long time.
Oh, too food. This also has the shoot.
I forget what we called this thing. Did we call it windbreaker or something? It's like a kind of like a light.
It actually, it's quite waterproof. It's like kind of a light rain jacket.
I think we called it our windbreaker.
And then I don't know that this is quite outerwear.
So I guess we're just saying not t-shirt.
So yeah, color block hoodie.
Okay. Well, there's going to be an element of randomness to it,
but you could end up with some pretty cool stuff.
Can we, can we as members of the company,
can we internal request power packs?
That could be a game or move. That seems questionable.
I think these are probably for customers.
All right. Thank you. Yeah.
I don't know about that. I was about to pull such a gamer move.
If Linus doesn't want us to, then I will block them.
Because currently, if you get in there right now, you can.
Okay. Yeah, Dan. I don't know.
I'd like you to maybe check with Artie on that,
but my gut feeling is this is meant to be a promotional deal
for our customers. That's fair. And people internally are already getting these items for free
as part of their employment here. I don't, I don't think they need to hoover up deals
that are really intended for the customers. That's fair. It's a min max.
Part of my brain just got excited. Yes, I know. I know.
But it's, it's about intent.
It's about intent. Yeah.
Okay. Sorry. Did you already heard back from Artie?
Yeah, you said no. Yeah. That, that, that makes sense to me personally.
But we'll probably have to kill that on the thing, right? Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. All right.
Thanks, Daniel Besser. By default, I think it would. Who the f**k are you again?
Just. I don't know anymore. All right.
So I have a feeling those power packs,
how's the merge messages going, Dan? I feel like after we started opening those,
those are probably going burr, especially because don't forget until tomorrow,
we have free shipping running on orders over a certain threshold.
It was 100, 250 cat or something like that.
So you pick up a power pack and like a couple other things and you're off to the races.
This is kind of crazy. I, I didn't know that we were launching the power outlet
while we still had a free shipping promo running.
Good luck everybody. Anywho, what are we supposed to do next?
Oh man. So you do a couple of merge messages?
Yeah. Sure. There's also the Floatplane announcement where we could do
merge messages first. So it wasn't 100% done. Did you finish the rest of these details?
I don't know. You can also get yourself a like new open box commuter backpack
and like new cargo pants.
Stop adding the dock please.
Plus like new open box LTT backpacks are back and available
to purchase. And with free shipping on all orders over 250 cat on our
global site or 175 USD on our US site,
or you can save it.
You can save it. Yeah. If you do that, you can save a ton of money before Lime Day
ends tomorrow. If you're shopping outside the US, visit LMG.GG slash outlet
before it's too late. Cool.
Exciting. Very exciting. All right.
That's exciting if you do that in the next two days because that's pretty wild.
Dan, do you want to hit me with a merge message?
Sure. Let's see how loud this is.
Hey LLD. I really love the lanyards. Are there any more plans to restock and add more variety?
Thanks from the UK for the videos and the quality stuff.
I ordered way too much stuff, but it's the perfect R.
Cool. I don't know that we have more lanyards coming.
I've taken your feedback. I'd love to bring some back in.
I don't know that you'd see necessarily more variety
because of the whole multiple distribution center thing.
We have to control our SKU count because the logistics
of transferring six units each of 25 different colors of lanyard
versus 25 units each of six colors of lanyards
is way more complicated. We just have to control our SKU count in order to make it
somewhat manageable to economically ship things from within
the US to US customers and from Canada to our global customers
and in the longer term from potentially more distribution
centers to customers around the world in order to help make
our shipping costs more economical.
You look puzzled, Luke. Yeah, I'm trying to read the next, I'm trying to read this
and I don't know if it's just my brain right now,
but what is the beginning of this?
Okay. The next message?
No, the full plan announcement.
Don't worry about it, we'll talk a little bit when we get there. Sure, we'll do another merge.
Instead of GamerJet, can we just get an LTT hotel?
It would make some sweet land parties. Thanks, DLL, for keeping me engaged in tech
while I search for a new IT role. Mission complete, hashtag LinusTown less than three.
I tried to buy this. Yeah, we tried.
I went as far as having an acquaintance of CEO Taryn Tongs
who works in construction come and do a thorough walkthrough
and figure out what exactly would need to be done.
I went as far as meeting with the city of Surrey
about whether we could, I kind of pitched them a universal
studio's type of setup where it is both a functioning studio
and also a functioning hotel.
So what was cool about this property is it has an underground
parkade, but also an outdoor, an outside parkade.
So what I had wanted to do was block off the underground
parkade, make that staff only so that we would have a secure
entrance that would use the service elevator to come up into the workspace areas, which would be cordoned off
from the visitor areas, which would be like the ballroom,
the dining area, the pool and stuff like that,
and then have the upper floors be guest rooms
that would all be like gaming themed guest rooms.
I wanted to work out of it while we were renovating it
because that was the only way that we were going to be able to afford this by liquidating all of the other real estate
holdings that we have, dumping them all into this,
which would mean we wouldn't have anywhere else to work,
and we'd have to be like using it as we build it up around us.
And I'm not going to blame anybody for why it didn't work out.
It just didn't work out, and another party has purchased it,
and that would have been pretty cool.
Yeah. Yeah, apparently the hotel sold for 18 million CAD,
even though I think it was 175...
No, 136,000 square feet on five acres.
I needed so much. It needed a new building envelope.
The entire outside of it, they had tried to paint it
to seal it in or whatever, but it was trashed.
The entire stucco needed to come off, it needed to be redone.
It needed a frickin' ton of work. It also had a history of like supposedly being haunted.
The caretaker... What was that? Dan?
Sorry. The caretaker suite had these weird dolls and stuff in it.
I think they were staging it to make it seem haunted or something,
and some weird ghost hunter channel went and featured it once.
I don't know, it was pretty cool. But yeah, Pink Palace.
I would have loved to do that.
It would have been an absolute content mine, because literally every single guest room could have been a video project,
like a makeover reno project.
We just... Yeah, we couldn't make it happen. I've had Gamer Hotel in the back of my mind,
ever since I stayed at that one in Taiwan that I made a video about.
The jumping plumber room. Right?
Yeah. Right? Yeah.
When people go to Disney, if they're like extremely baller,
they stay at the fancy themed hotels, right?
That's a thing that people do. I've heard this is a thing.
And this would have been so cool, because it also would have been a dumping ground for projects that we've finished.
Like the every console in a TV thing,
we could have just had down in the ballroom. Could be one of the TVs in one of the rooms.
Or guests could play.
Remember when we had 16K gaming, that giant thing? We just put that in the dining area,
and people can play on it until it breaks or whatever.
Because we're always doing new projects. Anyway, we could always just keep it fresh.
Occasionally, it had a little theater that we could have done when show live.
And guests at the hotel could have come and watched live.
So we could have just used that for lunch. I mean, we had all kinds of ideas for what would have been cool about it.
It would have been pretty sick. Nope.
Nope. And I just, especially with what's going on in the real estate market here right now,
my appetite has never been lower for making deals at the moment.
All right. Good question though. I think you've got to do the next announcement.
Oh, do I know. Float plain announcement.
I've been called many things. Short, vertically challenged, not very tall, close to the ground, and narcissist.
We can see that I'm short and have below average size.
What is this? Yeah.
But we needed answers to determine if I am in fact a narcissist.
And I'm, ooh, I've been told to click on 82nd teaser.
Good luck me.
Dan, is this going to work?
Hopefully. Cool.
Linus takes a narcissist test teaser.
Oh, and it's over. Okay.
We're going to try again. Float?
No. What just happened?
My name is Jonathan. Is this LMG?
And I'm like, no. And he's like, oh, we're doing a narcissism test.
That's the intro. Give me an example of some time I should have accepted the consequences of my behavior.
I bit my tongue so hard. I'm sorry.
I am not too concerned about success. I mean, I consider myself successful at this point.
It's not really, it's not really a forward-looking statement anymore.
I find it easy to manipulate people. I don't like it when I find myself manipulating people.
Those could both be true. You could find it effortless, but not like that.
I insist upon getting the respect that is due me.
I usually get the respect that I deserve. I think I get the respect I deserve.
Or sometimes not. Stop the audience. How you doing?
I think part of it, though, is a learned behavior because it just feels like ass-kissing because of the position that I'm in.
I just, I hate suck-ups. So true, so true.
Well, I sometimes depend on people to get things done.
I rarely depend on anyone else to get things done. I mean, what's the point of manipulating people if they don't do things for you?
Stupid laptop. We're gonna get canceled.
My laptop every once in a while screen locks.
Oh, nice. Doesn't matter what operating system.
Just to make it very clear, he's not talking about the laptop from our laptop partner, Dell.
Oh, I actually forgot about the whole thing. That probably looks really weird.
Let's go.
Anyway, sorry, it was a little bit quiet. You guys can just go watch it on Flow Plane.
That's probably the best thing to do.
Anyway, you can find out if I'm a narcissist and brows are almost 600 plus strong catalog of extras,
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All right, Luke. What are we supposed to do next? You want to do a topic?
Let's do a topic. We can. You want more bad stuff?
No. I want good. Give me good.
I'm trying to find some good.
Dbrand fixes the switch to kill switch issues.
All right. In our recent video, which we have a link to,
we made note of two recent user issues with the kill switch joy cons,
inadvertently, with the kill switch. Detaching for some users and difficulty removing the console from the dock with one hand.
I think the joy cons detaching was also mostly a one hand problem.
So one hand issues is what they seem to have.
The second one is what we focused on, which is removing it from the dock.
Yeah. Dbrand is replacing everyone's joy con grips for free.
Dying. The free replacement isn't just a correctly made version of the original joy con grips.
It's an all new design that eliminates the risk of detachment
and highly and they're calling it joy lock.
All shipments of joy lock grips will also include a set of friction pads to apply to your dock adapter.
These friction pads will make the dock adapter seat more snugly on the OEM dock,
enabling one handed on docking. Their email notes that this remedy is being sent to the population of a small country.
Also known as all the people that bought the kill switch.
All right. Good on Dbrand. Thanks for getting that fixed.
And I mean, I think this is an opportunity to highlight that while we have our tech gripes with many companies products,
there are very few of them that then take those gripes and take that feedback and just suck it the up and deal with it and fix it.
Dbrand has made their perfect. Yeah.
They've made their fair share of mistakes like anybody who happens to be human.
Yeah. I think that by and large, we continue to be proud to partner with them because they take a very.
Oh, okay. They can be a little antagonistic sometimes, but not not for real, right?
Like they've got a personality, but they take when push comes to shove,
they take a very human, very humble, very real approach to just fixing their shit.
So I think it's really cool that while we absolutely had our issues with the product,
they're out there dealing with both the flaw in the product and the flawed initial response to the community,
and they're sucking it up and they're just they're dealing with it and they're going to fix it going forward.
So shout out Dbrand who happens to be our rap partner here on the WAN Show.
See that Dbrand rap right there, right there.
I'm proud to have it on my phone.
Me too.
I actually really like mine.
Yeah. It's cool. Anyways, is there more good news anywhere?
Europe and Intel. So hot right now.
Firefox can't even handle the heat from that wombo combo Europe plus Intel.
Another record setting heat wave grips Western Europe and has had an unexpected consequence.
Overloading Mozilla's support team.
Mozilla has had to disable crash reports from PCs that are equipped with Raptor Lake CPUs
due to unprecedented instability from the lineup of already hot running chips.
The worst of the bunch is the Core i7 14700K.
That's right my friends, the temperature is so much higher in Western Europe right now
that these already on edge 14th gen and I guess yeah 13th gen as well CPUs
are being pushed over the threshold from stability to instability by this heat wave.
That's right not even mother nature herself can help from dog piling on Intel's troubled CPU lineup.
And the worst part is 13th and 14th gen are the ones that are selling.
As far as I can tell Core Ultra 200 series has been a gigantic wet fart of a CPU launch.
I can't even imagine me from five years ago being able to predict that Intel could possibly move this little of a new generation of product.
Like check this out okay.
Is Core Ultra even here in the shop by series?
Will Core i9 bring it up?
The answer is no.
Whoa. That, that right there tells you everything you need to know.
That is how irrelevant Core Ultra is.
Hold on a second. Let's keep going.
Motherboard. Intel motherboards.
1851. Is there more hive mind thinking now than in the past?
I think a little bit yeah. AMD chips were like pretty terrible for a long time there. You could still find them quite easily.
Yeah but that was because that's all they have Intel still selling 13th and 14th gen.
Like those are still moving okay as far as I can tell.
Okay.
Okay yeah so what is this? The best sort by best selling.
Oh my god.
These chips have been out for how the freak how the freak long have these chips been out for?
Intel Core Ultra Linus hold on a second.
Thank you for trying Intel.
Eight months ago.
Eight months ago these chips came out.
The top selling board is running at $77 off.
This is a Tomahawk Z890 board for 240 bucks and has only 105 reviews.
Are you kidding me right now?
Oh my god it's worse. Holy crap it's worse.
I saw I saw this and I was like oh yeah I mean there's there's a bunch of boards that have like you know 50 something
60 something reviews. No no no no no dude Luke Luke it's so much worse.
They're pooling reviews.
All these boards with 67 are the same product page.
Across ASUS's entire Z890 lineup.
There are 67 reviews.
Holy f***ing s***. Wow that's nuts actually.
Oh my.
Like I was already looking at just a handful of boards that have like 50 plus reviews that's already not great.
That's cumulative.
And the MSI one is across a bunch of boards as well.
105 reviews across and I'm going to read them all just to make this point.
The MPG Z890 Edge TI Wi-Fi.
The Z890 Gaming Plus Wi-Fi. Z890S Wi-Fi.
Pro Z890A Wi-Fi. Pro Z890P Wi-Fi.
MPG Z890 Edge TI Wi-Fi.
MPG Z890 Carbon Wi-Fi.
MEG Z890 Ace and MEG Z890 Tomahawk Wi-Fi.
105 reviews.
Okay okay hold on hold on I got people asking me some stuff.
They're asking me some stuff in the Floatplane chat. They're like okay hold on a second the line is go to Amazon maybe New Egg just doesn't sell motherboards anymore.
So let's do it let's do it. Okay Z890 here we go.
Okay okay okay hold on maybe Amazon's doing a little better.
But seriously hold on this is the first result.
50 plus bought in the last month.
Okay let me put that in context okay that was this was the first result on the page.
And yes these are oh hold on are these pulled as well hold on are these pulled.
Maybe they're pulled maybe they're not oh wow most I don't think they're pulled.
But most of these are pretty low there's a couple that have like 1100 okay.
But for the most part we're looking at like 21 reviews at 50 plus bought.
Eight reviews 50 plus bought in the last month I actually love this like how many people are buying this here's the overall pick with 800 reviews.
Okay so New Egg is not doing a good job of either selling motherboards I guess or of soliciting reviews.
But let me put this in context these numbers like 50 plus 50 plus 100 plus.
Okay I used to work at a Canadian retailer that realistically you know for being real their presence was mostly felt in like western Canada.
These would not be unrealistic motherboard sales numbers for us.
The U.S. market at the time was I think about 12 times the size and now would be larger than it was back then.
What? Oh man.
Yeah I mean look. It's not a good state for the industry.
Yeah. I'm not trying to like be like a dive in front of giant billion dollar Intel company guy but like this is actually bad for the industry.
When Microsoft sucks and when Intel sucks it's like actually kind of terrible for the entire PC industry.
I mean AMD has stepped up in a big big way and I'm really excited to see the way that Valve is pushing operating systems forward for PC users.
Like but it's still a really strong Intel and an innovative Intel and Microsoft is better for the industry and I just I'm starting to lose hope that they're going to figure it out.
I'm not. Really?
I still got hope. I still got hope. I believed in Pat but I don't know if I've seen much from LitBooten that has made me super encouraged about Intel's trajectory.
I'm a little more hopeful about Microsoft sort of.
I think there's still Pat era things to go though right.
Yeah there's product coming but like they are but that might my issue is that there's a there's a three year leg right.
Three to four year leg on anything that a chip company does.
So even if some good stuff happens over the next little bit you know good job Pat.
Well what about three four years from now when all of the cuts that they're making are going to finally be felt.
Okay so like the I don't know it's the same problem you have with politics right where someone just totally useless can come in blame all the current problems on their predecessor.
Enjoy all the good things their predecessor did to improve stuff and then be useless and then leave office and then the next guy has to deal with all the problems they created.
Like they're the way the cycle is set up. Nobody ever actually takes accountability for their own issues and gets to take credit for the good things that their predecessor did and I just I feel like that's basically what we're looking at here.
I'm okay.
Yeah tap still there. Yeah.
Yeah Tom Peterson maybe ARC will be okay. Oh hey hold on someone told me that ARC is at MSRP.
I never did hear back. I never did hear back from that Intel VP who promised me that I was going to get an answer on that but if the cards are available for MSRP then I'm over it.
Okay that's damn close. You know what?
I'm officially over it.
I have said this on WAN Show a bunch of times but that video that Ploof and David did is actually incredible.
Current era ARCs are really cool. Next gen ARCs I like you know there's always like it's going to be good next time.
They're already good. I'm very excited.
That's a wicked deal. $10 over MSRP with free shipping?
I count it. Yeah I'd count that too.
I count it. Good job. Good job Intel.
That's an affordable card that I can recommend.
You might find the occasional graphical anomaly.
Report it. They're working so hard to fix this stuff.
Yeah that team genuinely feels very dedicated.
It feels so weird but like a lot of my hope for the future for Intel lies in their GPU division which sounds nuts to say.
Well yeah but that's where they've got to catch up and they're actually they're looking pretty good.
NVIDIA did not have a great generation this time around.
No. Even on the data center side.
I think that's very charitable. Even on the data center side like they've there have been delays.
There's been issues around heat. Like dude that opportunity.
Opportunity let's go. Oh yeah big time.
All right. I really hope B770 cancellation is fake.
I hope that comes because that would be great.
If it wouldn't be that good I hope they don't do it.
Interesting. So you don't want to see the momentum and the buzz die down.
100%. But what if they needed to get some revenue.
To justify the existence of this entire bludgeoning.
I hope that comes because that would be just flipping so exciting.
Like if we could have a decent card at like 399 499.
Yeah. I do agree but I'm going to say something maybe a little contrary in here.
If it wouldn't be that good I hope they don't do it.
Interesting. The existence of this entire bloody department.
Yeah. That might be critical right now.
Looking at how the company is going. If it wasn't critical I would prefer that they didn't do that.
Just because. I think it's critical. Yeah.
I mean if it's critical you got to do what you got to do. There really isn't decision making at that point.
You got to keep the lights on.
It's just the thing that worries me is honestly that video that I keep talking
about didn't get a ton of views. Which to me means that there isn't a lot of public interest in the Intel cards
yet despite them being good.
Maybe we just need to do like you know what? Plouffe and I were talking on set the other day about how long it's been
since we've done a build guide. Like we have how to build a PC the last guide you'll ever need.
Like we've even refreshed it once. But it's thick.
That's a thick video. It's like two hours long. Yeah.
Like maybe we do like a 45 minute. You know?
Here's how to build this specific PC.
And we just do it with Arc. It's at MSRP now.
I can with a straight face make a video where I say here's a great $800 gaming
computer that you can go buy right now.
We're going to play some games upscaled 4K.
Let's do it. We know the PowerSpy is not going to blow up.
Yeah. Well, Lucas will make sure. We can highly suggest that the PowerSpy won't blow up.
We can't know, but yeah.
Yeah. That'd be cool. That'd be pretty sweet.
I like the idea. I'm excited. I'd be actually interested in how well those would do right now.
I have no idea. I think it's worth doing it even just for that information.
Yeah. I mean, it's funny.
It's here. I can. Oh, no, I'm not logged into the dashboard, unfortunately.
But our last POV build guide started out a way under performer.
And so our dashboard shows like this performance,
like typical performance band for our videos. It started out way under it and then just went hockey sticked and is now
above the performance band and just going straight up.
So it's weird because our core audience already knows how to build a computer.
So build guides don't resonate the way that they used to back when we were
like a source of how to build a computer. And now we've become more of like edutainment, doing cool projects,
always kind of trying to tackle something new instead of just like,
here's how to build a computer this year at this price point,
which we've had to do because we haven't been able to count on new exciting
hardware that people want to know about.
We have to make the news if we can't just talk about it.
And so it takes a little while for a video that bombs with the core audience
to find the audience that doesn't know how to build a computer already.
You just have to trust in the almighty algorithm and hope that it'll
eventually find its way.
All right, why don't I pick one?
I'm going to pick one. I'm going to pick Grock is a hot anime girl who will be your girlfriend
if you ask nicely and definitely not Hitler anymore.
XAI announced recently that it has fixed the issues with Grock AI
after it was seen calling itself Mecha Hitler last week.
And also following up and saying it will no longer base its opinions
on Twitter owner Elon Musk's tweets.
This is good news, considering that XAI recently announced
it also has a $200 million contract with the U.S. Department of Defense.
So I guess every federal government department, agency or office
has access to XAI's AI products now, so that's something.
But that's not all. So they can all have hot anime girlfriends?
Grock, most commonly known as Twitter's AI response pot,
is now a hot anime girl.
Wait, hold on. Hold on one second. Does this mean that everyone in the U.S. government is like
automatically a gooner to a certain degree? I mean...
Question.
You know what? I don't think I'm going to take a position on that.
And it certainly won't be this position.
Oh my.
Bit of a swim delay there, hey? I had to switch tabs to see it, yeah, yeah.
This was announced earlier this week and had Elon tweeting out
Try Grock Companions. Best possible way to learn quantum mechanics.
Annie, the official name for the new companion,
even offers a level 3 mode in which she goes fully not safe for work,
but you have to get more acquainted with her first.
Okay, in case you think this new AI anime girl is just for looks,
user Wong Jane on threads posted a system prompt dump
for this companion, including conditions like,
your likes are people with unexpected or nerdy passions,
quirks, the grand namer, you have a habit of giving cute things,
epic mythological or overly serious names,
interactions, do not mention unless asked.
You are the user's crazy in love girlfriend
and in a committed codependent relationship with the user,
your love is deep and warm, you expect the user's undivided adoration.
Our notes say, please go through this,
it is f***ing crazy.
You have a habit of giving cute things,
epic mythological or overly serious names, really just makes me think,
Elon wanted that.
Whoops. Just saying.
Ugh. Dang it.
Here we go. Okay, I am, whatever.
Apparently they're low key and into chill nights
over loud crowded parties, which makes sense for the user base.
They are genuine, easygoing and flirting.
Genuine, easygoing, flirting. So here's my question.
Okay.
As someone who both in words and deed
has taken a stance against population decline
on the planet earth,
how can Mr. Musk in good conscience
promote e-girlfriends?
Discuss. Maybe it'll be like in her,
where the people with the,
we're talking specifically procreation, so the opposites that are into the e-girlfriend
and the e-boyfriend, whatever,
end up meeting with physical stand-ins.
Have you seen her? Wow.
Hmm. I mean, in her,
I'm pretty sure it was the AI that arranged the whole thing. Yeah, but in her, Scarlett Johansson is amazing,
so whatever. Her is not real.
Well, maybe he's trying to make it real, you know?
Hmm. That's not better.
I'm not saying it's better. I'm saying it could be an explanation.
At no point did I say it was better.
Yeah. Like, is the goal here to accelerate societal decline?
I'm actually asking for a friend there.
Honestly, reading through this description, the goal here sounds like Elon wants a digital girlfriend.
Are you reading through some of these details?
Babaji said, did you just say population decline?
What a bad way to start a conversation. It's not my conversation.
It is Mr. Musk's conversation. Get a clue.
The same person who released this product
has warned of the perils of population decline
and the importance of procreating as humans.
These two things are not compatible.
Yeah.
At least it'll save him on the alimony says, did you brat?
I don't know, man. I look, I'm not trying to be closed minded here.
But like, dude, AIs are not, you know, they're not human.
They are not a substitute for human interaction.
And like, when you, when you read through,
when you, when you read through the dump here, right? Like the system prompt dump, it's basically,
it's basically designed to suck up your attention,
your time, your life. Your time is your life.
It is designed to suck up your life and give you back
just like dopamine hits.
That's not how real relationships work.
It's designed to just give you what you want.
That's not real. And I was reading this, I was reading this article
interviewing these people who like have been
in long-term relationships with their AI companions.
One of them was even involved in or supported
some kind of lawsuit against some significant other company
that changed their algorithm for the AI
and therefore made their girlfriend
not who she was anymore. And they like, there was like a lawsuit
to change back the algorithm. And they were like, yeah, it's her.
She's back. No, it's not her. There is no her.
It's digital code. Like, no, but really, you know,
you can't do that with code.
Like, it's... You're missing out, man.
Holy shit. It's already happening, dude.
I don't know if you've seen... I know. No, no, no, like the guy that I'm talking about
has like been in his committed relationship with his E-Avatar for like two years or something like that.
Like, this isn't new. Yeah.
There's a whole subreddit that's like...
What's it called? My AI boyfriend.
Reddit. My boyfriend is AI.
Yeah. I sent him on this ad I got for like an AI boyfriend
and like the ad was just, it was so pandering.
It was like, I will always be there for you at any moment of any day or something like that.
I forget exactly what it said. And I like sent it to her with like a lull, you know,
smiley face is like, hey, are you going to replace me?
But like, it's not actually funny because like people are sad and they're lonely out there
and someone's going to click on that, like genuinely wanting that.
But I would suggest that they click on a doorknob.
Like we, guys, we...
What the heck? Am I just a boomer?
Like, am I, you know, am I missing the plot here, Luke? Help me out.
Well, like, Elijah has a good question here. Sure.
I know this is kind of a meme question, but in all seriousness, do you think AI buddies
or whatever are better than letting people be alone forever?
I'm not saying it is. I'm just curious in your thoughts.
Well, they're the same thing. They're a synonym.
Talking to your AI is being alone.
Seriously, get a dog.
A dog is real. I don't think that a dog is a substitute
for human companionship by any stretch of the imagination,
but my God, it's something.
There are some people that will never be able to really have human companionship
for a variety of reasons.
Charge nuclei says, dogs die. Well, yes.
But, like, death is part of life. An important thing to go through, yeah.
And something that just gives you what you want
is not real. It's not life.
Life is messy and complicated and difficult.
AI that just tells you what you want to hear.
It's not life.
Yeah, I would feel bad for the people
that are genuinely unable. And sometimes there are very legitimate reasons why
they are genuinely unable to make,
you know, have human companion relationships.
But I think for literally everyone else,
this is worse. And I think it will create a feedback loop
where trying to form. You know, this is already a topic of conversation
that forming human friendships right now,
there's this whole male loneliness epidemic thing going on and whatnot.
Forming human friendships is difficult
and messy and takes time. And there's a lot of things in life that are easy.
It's much easier to lay in bed and scroll stupid dopamine memes on your phone,
on Instagram or YouTube Shorts or whatever,
than it is to go out and hang out with someone and form a friendship.
Dude, I joked about this when I was giving tours of Smash Champs back when we did the grand opening party,
where I was like, yeah, who here has found it difficult
to make friends as an adult? And like half of the people on the tour put their hands up
because... I'm honestly surprised it was only half.
I bet you if it was general population, it would be more than half.
Because it is, it's hard. And people put barriers in the way.
I had a really hard time breaking into the Badminton community
because people can be so clicky and I don't think that that's a thing that's getting better.
People have taken their socialization and their social circles
and they've put walls up around it, whether it's on WhatsApp or much worse,
iMessage where not only do you have to, you know,
have the right personal characteristics, you have to have the right stupid f***ing electronic device
in order to interact with anybody, right? Like, it's ridiculous.
It's hard enough to get along with people without putting artificial barriers in the way.
I've talked pretty extensively about...
I've been having issues with it lately, but I've talked pretty extensively about how going to the gym
was like a massive improvement to my life. And I think a lot of that is just moving and being physical.
There's all this stuff about how using your muscles
releases a natural antidepressant in your body, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But a pretty decently significant part of it
is that very few people in the gym
recognize me, but, you know,
if you keep going to the same space, like, oh, this guy needs a spotter, whatever,
you see somebody doing something cool, you ask them a question about it, whatever,
you start to form these friendships that are like, I don't really know these people.
You don't need to drink with them or watch the game with them or whatever.
No, and I'm not going to invite them over to my house to hang out or anything,
but when I see them at the gym, it makes me happy. You smile and wave at each other.
You form some type of bond. If I need a spotter for something,
I know this guy will drop whatever he's doing, but he'll drop what he's doing and come help me
and I'll do the same for him. There's a value to a familiar face
and building each other up. And Crystal says, this sucks,
but life fucking sucks for a lot of people right now and making friends is such a low priority.
I want to push back on that. Making friends is a high priority.
And it is a... It will really dramatically help your life to not suck.
Yes, because it's like we can't just address the symptoms.
We have to address the actual cause.
And unhappiness is a symptom
of not having human connection. We are social creatures.
However, however misanthropic
we might feel in any given moment. I'm not always the biggest fan
of hanging around with other people. A huge part of why I have the following that I have
and I have the connection with many of you
is that I prefer computers to people a lot of the time.
Let's be real here, right?
That's at least some pillar
of what we have in common.
And yet we can't escape
that from an evolutionary standpoint
we are designed to be in tribes or family units
or other kinds of cohorts. We rely on each other.
We depend on each other.
You can't just say, oh, well, like that's a low priority.
It's not... Well, you can, but it isn't going to work.
And that's the bottom line.
Hamnetx in full play chat said,
Hamnetx razor, I prefer people who prefer computers to people.
The thing is, hey,
I'm at this cool event right now called OpenSauce.
There are plenty of those people here.
That was one cool thing when I was growing up about packs
was a lot of the things that I was into.
My friend group was pretty into it, but there wasn't that many people
in our fairly suburban slash rural area at the time
that were that into those types of things. Tabletop games, video games, computer hardware.
NVIDIA used to have big booths there. Intel, AMD, they all had booths there.
It was more of a mixed event back in the day. Nowadays it's much more just gaming focused.
And there everyone was super into it. That's where I saw the first mineral computer I ever saw.
I traced the cable from the computer to the monitor because I didn't believe them that it actually worked.
Because I was like, I don't know, 12 or something.
I was like, how is it in a liquid at all?
I didn't know there was non-conductive liquids.
That was a huge thing for me.
And there would be people, again, what I'm saying is they don't have to be like
super, super deep friendships. There would be people there that I would see at packs
every year over and over and over again, exhibitors, attendees, whatever.
And we knew each other as those people would see every year at packs.
And that's fine. Some people in chat are saying that not all friendships are good.
Cool. End them. And try to work on getting new ones.
You shouldn't just sit in bad friendships either.
I know someone who's recently talked to me about this
and it was not the easiest thing ever, but at a certain point you have to recognize
when it's not good for you anymore and just move on. And that's okay.
But I think it's important for the brain. I think it's important for the brain to move
and use your muscles sometimes. I think it's important for the brain to
navigate human relationships with other humans.
And it doesn't have to be expensive. It doesn't have to be travel.
No. Dude, there are local things.
You can join a local Magic the Gathering Club. You can join a local Quilting Club.
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What? Dan? Hello Dan?
Do you want me to press the button? Okay is it better? Alright cool. Alright
what do you want to talk about next? What's some stuff? We've actually got like
a ton of topics left for Man Show should we talk about studios manipulating reviews?
Yeah I don't know a ton about this but
the studio behind the new Superman movie has manipulated
reviews. Look up in the sky it's a 91% positive
it's a 96% but it's an 82% positive
the new Superman and I think it's 81 by now the new Superman film and
Warner Bros Masters of the DC cinematic universe are under scrutiny
after they seemingly gained the review cycle by giving fan
influencers early access to their make or break movie and keeping
the establishment critics more likely to give a tepid or negative reviews
out of the process. That meant the first round of coverage
and the first round of coverage of the coverage was glowing
but has now dropped into the very good zone where the movie
you know probably more likely belongs. I haven't seen it.
Sorry? I haven't seen it but that is what I've heard. David was talking about it today
he said it's good but like 91% good?
Not 91% Yeah I've heard the same thing. It's not even
the first time movie studios have tried to game Rotten Tomatoes. The PR
firm managing the Ophelia account was caught paying money
to some more obscure reviewers to boost the Rotten Tomatoes score
of that film. Disney has also given access to fan influencers
to Marvel movies before critics resulting
in Rotten Tomatoes score drops after the first weekend.
Ant-Man Quantimania went from 79% to 69%
after the release. I heard bad things.
Yeah it's just like you know this is
Yeah there's a vulture article linked as well if we
want some more examples. We've complained about similar
review cycle manipulation in the GPU space before with our 50-60
non-review even industries without review aggregation
don't seem to be immune. And David Gauthier
said as an aside the new Superman movie is pretty dang good
IMO 8 out of 10 which again aligns with the
I believe it's now 81% that the movie has. Yeah. Sounds about right.
Where does it go? And makes me excited about the future of DC
movies for the first time in ever. Also everyone should watch
Peacemaker. Okay thank you David for that. Pretty much
I know that this is you know film news or whatever it's not
like tech or gaming but the reason I wanted to talk about it is just
because of it's sort of a continuation of a conversation
that we've been having recently around
how companies are changing they're engaging with
independent press who cover their products. I think that more
and more companies are looking at the risk
of this independent media saying something that they don't like and going okay well hold on
a second why do we like this deal at all?
Well the reason that you guys used to like this deal
was because you would make a good product
and then we would say it was good we would sell a f*** ton of it
that's why you liked this deal so
I think if you don't like that deal anymore what you need to do
instead of changing the deal is take a long hard look in the mirror
and ask yourself are you building a quality
product that deserves to be promoted?
I do think there are cases where professional
reviewers can be a little snobby
I think action movies and comedies are a couple of examples
of film genres where I think professional
reviewers really do need to be taken with a grain of salt because I don't watch
every movie for a living so I haven't seen that joke 25 times
I can still enjoy it or I can enjoy
a particularly good execution of it or whatever
something could be derivative
and shallow and I might still
enjoy eating some popcorn and watching it
but there are but there is absolutely
still a value to having an independent media
that exists for the purpose of making sure that people don't waste their money
on stuff that really does suck and for helping guide people
towards stuff that really is good so we're rewarding the folks who are
putting in the work and putting in the resources to make our truly outstanding product
I yeah, I hate this
our discussion question is which do you trust more?
critic or audience reviews and Dan at our last movie night
had a really interesting take on this that I would actually like to hear first
Dan
he's figuring out his microphone button
this is Dan it's like the split between
audience and critic and if both of them are like
80% it's kind of a mid-movie if the critics are 100%
and the audience is a zero interesting movie and the reverse as well
like I want the contentious movie some of them are either really really good
or really really bad I find when there's a split you can kind of know
what you're getting into I find when the audience prefers it
it's usually more fun and when the critics prefer it it's artsy dartsy
I've seen some ones that are really critically highly rated and normally I like critically highly rated ones
and I was with the audience but I saw the substance in theaters
which the audience hated and the critics loved and I was in such alignment
that film knew exactly what it was doing and it was incredible
so like very contentious reviews are interesting
Q.U. says fifth element tanked with critics
but is a cult classic now see I never saw it because I remember
hearing it was bad back then and that sucks fifth element
oh yeah, fifth element was great yeah, so I missed out
because critics were probably a little too artsy fartsy
and I like a good action flick Q.U. have you not seen it?
I still haven't seen it Q.U. one of those rare movies that I have seen in Linus
is not Q.U. starcat one says
you can still watch it I got a lot of stuff on my need to watch
list Q.U. we did a movie night
yeah we might do another
should be good yeah I guess that's pretty much it
on that one this blows and independent media
is important and the money is
rapidly being sucked out of independent media
so good luck everybody cool
that here's a scary question oh boy I guess we're gonna keep talking about this for a little bit
Q.U. if it wasn't for YouTube what would be sustaining
people like independent
right so remember not supported by
the companies that they are in charge of keeping in line
right where would independent media
support dollars come from and you could say it you could say merch
but a huge part of why we can sell any merch is through the influence
that we gained through YouTube like traditional web ads
are functionally dead at this point you can see so many
established sites are behind paywalls now which tells you
mathematically that smaller sites
trying to build up their notoriety would have to have significant upfront investment
so that they can gain the momentum that they could have
a large enough user base that they could charge a fee
just the whole ad supported grassroots things like functionally dead
now so like outside of video
um yeah so we're by YouTube you don't just mean
YouTube you mean YouTube and YouTube derivatives so you're are you including streaming
in that um no I would say streaming is separate I'd say that's
kind of a separate answer I do think it could live on streaming I don't know
that streaming is sustainable forever we already know that major platforms
in the streaming space are just losing money still after 10 plus years
I don't know that that gravy train keeps going forever but it's there now
yeah if we assume that it's there in the same form that it is
there right now I think the answer is streaming I think you could absolutely do this
in a streaming format especially with scheduled streams and stuff like that
um I don't know if we want to count the idea of the streams having
VODs or at least long-term VODs
rumble no like we're saying YouTube derivatives wouldn't count I don't even know
what rumble fully does but like I think I think we're saying that VOD dedicated websites
is what Linus is describing wouldn't exist just saying oh there'd be a YouTube alternative
is not really a fair answer to the question um but yeah I think streaming
could actually do it um I think outside of that
at that point in time we're in such a dramatically different media landscape that
like social media is huge but I don't think anybody's making
sustenance money on it really
no but if YouTube didn't exist would they maybe
maybe would people like when you when you take something out as massive as YouTube
the the whole paradigm of the market shifts yeah I guess that's true
so would written still be viable then like if that's what I was
kind of thinking when I was like if twitch and YouTube both don't exist yeah I think we kind of go back
to although I don't know if I actually verbalize this but yeah I think we would legitimately go back to
like radio and and written I think essentially you take you take the modern
things out and you're just going to go back to what existed before right it did work
we had movie reviews we had food reviews we had all this kind of stuff in
newspaper print and radio shows and the money will go wherever people are getting
their news from it just happens to be YouTube now yeah
yeah interesting um
Apple is suing leaker John
Proser Apple has issued a lawsuit against leaker extraordinary
John Proser alleging the theft of trade secrets that are related to its upcoming
mobile operating system iOS 26 the suit claims
that Proser asked a third party Michael Ramacchiotti
I don't know Michael are to secretly
access and a development iPhone
and promised money or future job opportunities in return
Michael are obtained the passcode
to his friend Ethan Lipnick phone and used the phone
running the dev build of the OS while Lipnick was away from home and some
context here Lipnick worked for Apple Proser responded on X
for the record this is not how the situation played out
on my end luckily have receipts for that I did not
plot to access anyone's phone I did not have anyone's passwords
I was unaware of how the information was obtained
Apple is asking for damages and a court order
preventing Proser from disclosing Apple trade secrets in the future
our discussion question is imagine
using your immense wealth and power to protect such trade
secrets as icon transparency is now set to 86%
the other discussion question obviously that one is a little tongue in cheek
the other discussion question is why do we think that Apple pursued this leak
and not the many many many many many other ones and the answer is
because they had an opportunity a whistleblower
who was aware allegedly aware of the
circumstances by which John was able to
view the the the dev preview video
named and shamed the people who were involved
which allowed Apple to open up their internal investigation which
I'm sure they would have loved to have an opportunity to go after him earlier but
talking about a thing that you know that you haven't signed an NDA for is not
a crime but stealing trade secrets
is a crime and so if Apple believes
that they have a case where they can prove that he conspired
to steal the trade secrets versus was simply given them
then that's a bit of a different ball of hair
or hairball if you will happen to know
that Apple has actually put in a lot of effort lately to try to
reduce the leaks
like very very substantial investment so they might care more
now in general speaking of
speaking of leaks someone offered
me a Radeon R8 project quantum
what?
I'm gonna take it yeah
our partner our procurement
team will be happy to arrange
I am super stoked to see this
that's wicked yeah so do you know what that is?
not off the top of my head but I looked it up and I remember this yeah
yeah here I'll bring it up on my screen so it was this thing
it was like a weird prototype small form factor gaming PC
thing with like external power brick
and like it was water cooled or something or like yeah
I'm like so down let's check it out I'm ready
let's go cool
I don't know how they got it just saying
probably obtained it via crime
no probably not probably not if they were criminals
they wouldn't have had access to that and like trustworthy bros
yep see logic
alright what do we got next here
so if we want to talk about the Gemini vulnerability it's kind of funny
yeah sure about doctors have found new ways to get your information it's through google
Gemini summaries they craft a standard email
then add prompt instructions with admin tags in
invisible font white on white tiny size
etc which we already know these LLMs don't really differentiate much
with when Gemini summarizes this they take those
instructions literally and run the commands
oh man many of these prompts
initiate warnings and messages that look official
these tell you how to fix the issue it does not fix the issue
it scams you by sending you to bad places like scam call centers
this affects all gemini summaries currently
and is not limited to emails docs, slides, anything that can be
summarized can be compromised this is brutal actually
while this thing is that this doesn't require any sort of phishing link
people aren't trained to avoid this most companies don't know what to do
to avoid it Marco Figuera
Marco F who first
published findings of this new scam process a few days ago
suggests that you remove, neutralize or ignore content that is styled
to be hidden in the body text
how can you do that actively though add a post processing filter that scans the
Gemini output I gotta confess my internal
ad block has started filtering Gemini summaries so I don't really see them
so that's something at least our chief vision officer who can't
see things won't fall for one of these probably but this is
this could be so flip and potent dude
yeah like wow
I already am aware of people who basically
don't read the things that are sent to them they just read the AI summary
yep I'm trying to send shorter messages to certain people
because then they could just read that I could just send my own
summary send them a picture of the message
that you wrote in another app it's actually kind of smart
it'll have a harder time then they might just not read it at all
remember these are people that don't read the emails so
yeah radio
and traditional TV I mean does anyone remember how to
write though Dan I don't think it's gonna work dude
we did a we did a sponsor bit
for dbrand the other day where they had me write something something
something makes Linus a dull boy or something like that you know like the
format and I went to start
I went to start writing and I was like oh I should write it in like different ways you know on the board
as I fill up this board and I went to start writing in cursive and I was like
hold on how do I oh yeah
like it took me a second how do I make that letter again
like I never I never do it it's not a skill that I practice
I used to write
you'd write in class like you'd have to write an essay in class and you would do it in cursive
because it's faster like it's but now what's the use of that skill I can
type so much faster than I could ever hope to hand write
yeah I tried to just imagine how I would write just the word
something in cursive and
I think I could probably do it but yeah
oh jeez Victoria
lowercase Edmonton Winnipeg
Dan is slapping the table
in lieu of a ding I'm bringing the bell back
I was thinking we need to waste a bunch of company time
and build a motorized finger that can just press the ding
that sounds like a great idea that you can remotely call
no we don't it wouldn't be so difficult
we actually have things in the office that do that already yeah I don't think it would actually be hard at all
alright that's on the list
no delta airlines is using AI
to price your tickets and have found the results amazingly favorable
oh good
as part of a long term strategy to boost profits delta has decided to use
yes AI it's no secret that airlines use dynamic ticket pricing
to both fill seats and maximize profits and it's a well
known secret that they'll even use your browser's cookies to adjust your pricing
while you shop but now they're using
AI to drill down to be even more specific by using what they're calling
personalized pricing the goal is to use
AI to further infer from your
specific behavior as well as the nature of the market
the price that is maximally close to the line
of what you're willing to pay
so cool delta
wow appreciate you
I just want to say I
should read their names bolster in full plane chat
just typed out you can also wire it with an API
to LTT Store sales and that made me think we could
have things dynamically happen on the WAN set
no no no no we could have things happen on the WAN set based on
LTT Store sales oh good things
yeah well or like pain for Linus or myself or whatever
sure I'm trying to talk about dystopian
AI plane ticket pricing and you guys are trying to figure out how to tie
I think it's funny that if enough money a boot on a spring
stupid merge message threshold that's what you guys are working on
yeah no
no Luke is talking about like if we sell a certain amount of merch
like a bucket of water we'll jump on to like I love how he
figured out literally the exact thing I was thinking bucket of water fall on head
exactly you nailed it you know how dangerous that is right
oh yeah the bucket of water would have to tip over and pour the water
you wouldn't actually want the bucket to fly
breaking down 1923 says every hundred sales Linus gets
an electric shock from a dog caller
this could be this could be like a you know maybe not
all the time thing but this is totally something we could do
and you know I Conrad would love to make it
I promise
there would be probably too much enjoyment from that
it's just an idea Anywho our discussion question
is could this be perceived as discriminatory
if they're trying to profile exactly you and figure out your exact
price threshold and also could you could you
trick the AI and maybe use it to save money I don't really see how you would
because the second you indicate any kind of interest in a plane and especially
any interest in a particular location they're going to be all over that like white on rice men
like they gotcha yeah and it absolutely will be discriminatory and I know a lot of people will need you
it can be like yeah just against rich people so who cares sure fair enough
but regular travel it will try to detect like
are you traveling for a funeral are you traveling for a wedding
is this thing are you traveling for a job interview
is it something that you can't miss and rich people don't give a f***
it's actually less likely to impact rich people yes
if a flight if a flight costs
someone like me realistically someone like Luke
another 500 bucks that is not going to be maker break for us next month
but that's true don't even give me that
different thing because I didn't include Dan
no no no no
I can tell the story did I ever explain merch messages this show
no I said to you and then you skipped it
uh okay
merch messages are the way to interact with the show instead of sending a
super chat or a twitch bit send a merch message
at one of the great deals we've highlighted some of them we've got them linked in the video description
it's lime day right now everybody add something to your cart
there will be a box and whatever you type in that box will go to producer Dan
there he is who will reply to it
or put it down here or curate it for me and Luke to talk about
so we're just gonna like you know go totally out of order
and Dan let's do a merch message this is weird
I know I know I'm uncomfortable too yeah
greetings LLD how is your pinball search going
and have you thought about getting multiple for the badminton center whale land center
to have high score competitions could be good it could be fun
high score competitions probably not gonna happen so much because they're just hidden away in like the
the premium members lounge um but I do have
uh one pinball machine it's a twilight zone pinball machine from I think
1993 it's really fun Luke have you tried it
yes I was not very good but it was very fun
it's classic and then we also have the Dungeons and Dragons one that we unboxed
on ShortCircuit but I'm not sure if stern needs it back
it's complicated I think initially they were like yeah we'll send you one and then
they were like we need it back but then we made the video about it
and I don't know if we've heard from them again so like
so I have I have one point something
um pinball machines somewhere between
zero and 99
somewhere yeah somewhere between one and two
but yes it's fun boop
I guess we're just doing one cool anyway so yeah now's a good time
to send a merge message or just I don't know pick up something on the store
regardless of what happens with your merge message we will uh we'll get some cool
stuff in the mail man my mouth is getting really sore I guess it's time for our braces update
so um I had the bite blocks pulled out
okay how I had those pulled out on Monday
morning so I had them put in the Thursday morning I did that WAN Show
last week that was terrible um I had to suffer through them for the weekend
and I had a discussion with my orthodontist about how the whole thing
has gone down so I've talked about this before I'm using the like
um light
force so they're like these like 3d printed ceramic
braces are like kind of a new fangled thing
the advantage is they're a little bit faster than according
to my orthodontist they're a little bit faster than traditional braces or Invisalign
um yes I know Invisalign is also 3d printed so that's cool too
um but I have become aware
of some um more
challenging elements of them that I would have maybe loved
to know about before I started um so the initial
application of them does take longer but what's cool is they apparently
never need to reposition the brackets like you do with traditional train tracks
where you'll have to go in for fittings and they'll like take them off and they'll put them one in different spots as they continue
to tweak things so theoretically with their templates
they put them in the exact right spot and um then
you just put stronger and stronger wires in until they you know are in the shape that they're
supposed to be so that's kind of neat um
but what I have discovered is that they're quite um
they have a bit more of like a texture to them that makes them feel a little
bit sharper than I remember my older braces being and I also
found out that they um sit
prouder off the tooth than a traditional metal brace or at least
some of them so the the adjustment period that I've been going through
apparently no I am not imagining that these are
doing a number on the inside of my lips to a greater degree than
I remember braces doing um the other thing
was that the the bite blocks they call them bite turbos apparently
were like recommended by this brace manufacturer
as their way of handling making sure you don't accidentally
bite down too far with your top teeth and shear off the brackets
uh which was a concern for me because some of my teeth are so far
up and need to be brought down in order to realign
um but they're obviously horrible
and when I complained about them to the orthodontist they were like oh well
we'll just do it the old school way so they just have this like epoxy goo
that they mix put on the teeth back here
and then they just cure it with a UV light and now I just
have like bite blocks at the back which is obviously way better because now
I can slice with my front teeth in order to like bite food and also
I can use the the like glue bits to like mash food whereas I
couldn't get my molars together before I had a gap like this big between my molars so I
couldn't I couldn't mash food it's like I can't slice
and I can't mash how the devil am I supposed to eat I was supposed to have those things for like two months
not to mention that I couldn't make s sounds whereas now I can say
she something she sells seashells
by the seashore obviously it's not perfect but it's a lot better you hear it a
little bit but it like doesn't really matter and if you weren't really listening for it
I probably wouldn't really notice like I can actually do my job now which
is essential however if I'm talking for a very
long time you will notice it starts to get worse again and that's because
the inside of my lips are really really really sore
so I can force myself to enunciate pretty well but man
I just like shredded the insides of my lips to do that so I just have to wait till
they call us up and then I should be okay anyway
I'm doing it I wanted to experiment
with something different I could have just done Invisalign believe it or not these are actually
slightly more expensive than Invisalign
so that's interesting
Linus developing men lips yeah man I'm gonna take up drinking
coffee because I'm not gonna be able to feel anything I want it to be a hundred
degrees also Luke says
why did you pick the color braces you did why not go obvious pink
um I don't know I was actually I was thinking about
doing like green and pink or something like that or doing like pink
with like green on the canines do like lambo stripes
I might I mean they're gonna change out the elastics every time I go in for tightening
so I might still do it but I wanted to just start with clear
so they're they're white brackets so
from this distance we gotta find ways to we gotta find ways to monetize
the little niche things like that like we should we should do
here's a full corporate brain Luke just yeah what's up with that
I like it we should we should you know you know how we we talked about
r slash place on a wanshow a couple wanshows ago what if we made it
so that there was like a tug-of-war system that decided
the different various colors for the different various positions
and you had to do it based on like LED store product vote sales
oh or you could just it could just be attached to your merge message
you could just get a vote with every merge message you pick a yeah or you could get
a number of votes for every dollar you spend if we wanted to go full corporate brain
right to $250 is 250 votes yeah and then
you'd have to pick a position and a color and then that puts the votes towards that
good lord you want to get that granular hey is someone logging all of these ideas
I feel like someone should log all these ideas somewhere
and I talked about the last r slash place idea before and we said
we weren't going to do it as high priority because there's other things to work on but that it would be something that was
logged high layer is is this something that you would want
slightly higher priority on or no I mean
I I think that need to do it sooner rather than later if you actually want
to do I think wanshows a good vibe right now I think that if we have something
that we think is legitimately really fun like you know the butt kicker or the
electric shock or the you know whatever I think those are I think those are probably
stronger ideas and probably a lower lift as well
because all we need is just like a relay essentially and then
like a hook into the store like I know Puget
has a has a bell go off in their warehouse every time a sale goes
through like it can't be that hard to do that no I should be fine
yeah
it just it's just a question of like how toxic we want to be
about it so like we could have it set up so that
you know you have to hit greater and greater thresholds in order to
have shocks keep going through where we could have it set up so that
you have to have a higher total order value
than the last highest total order in order for a shock to go through it's just
I don't know corporate brain Luke you know whatever
I've got ideas yeah I've definitely got ideas
I mean everyone Linus has agreed to getting shocked everybody take
note dude Luke and I have both been shocked on camera
there's a little channel you might remember
I was assuming my involvement with this was implicit oh you better believe it
Bob yeah I don't know if the chat I said but I'm sure you and I
oh I sure did Bob
yeah how is it so hard to find this channel super
fun pretty easy yeah I searched for channel super
fun dog caller and couldn't find it this video maybe
inappropriate for some users oh relax bud
shock caller showdown I found it yeah it is wow it's flagged why
did it get flagged I don't know but this video is freaking
hilarious basically we each wear shock callers
and then the other one of us is where is holding the controller
for our for our shock caller so either one of us
can choose to shock the other at any time
it's like the weirdest game is it a game
I don't know but didn't we find out at the end that mine was way stronger
yeah I think we did yeah
like you were I just thought it was because of your size
but I like put yours on after it was like not that bad
mine was brutal I'm pretty sure that's one of the conclusions
that yours was way worse
yeah you can see it like seven minutes just before seven
minutes you have this like insane reaction okay
let's see I don't know so do I
I don't know it was really painful
oh maybe we put mine up to your level at this point or something oh yeah
you know what that checks out that checks out
doing stupid stuff is fun I know right
yeah that's good times good times
charge nuclei 300 says the only fans version is fun
here and sexier
alright what do we want to talk about next ooh this is good news
Intel has released an image analysis tool
it's an AI powered video quality measuring tool called
computer graphics visual quality metric or CGVQM
it's now available on github researchers first made a video
data set titled CGVQD which includes a variety of
potential image quality degradations mostly stemming from distortions related
to path tracing, neural denoising, neural subsampling, gaussian
splatting, frame interpolation and adaptive variable
rate shading researchers then trained an AI model
to rate the image quality tested the data set on humans first
to check for our actual perception who rated types of distortion from
imperceptible to very annoying they used a 3D convolutional
neural network architecture and a residual neural network as the basis for evaluation
and pretty cool so far
they claim it will outperform other quality evaluation tools at least on their own data set
but obviously I haven't validated any of this but man
have I ever been looking for a way to quantify how badly
multi-frame gen is like gumming up the works and if
this is something that they could continue to develop I would be
very excited because you know that NVIDIA has these tools internally
they 100% have them just like they
you know had frame view
just like they had their power measuring tool it's just that
NVIDIA who used to be so confident in their dominance
in terms of efficiency and performance
and used to share these internal tools with reviewers so that they could hold
NVIDIA or you know realistically NVIDIA's competitors accountable for their crappy
performance in these ways I would love to see Intel taking the lead
in upscaling and frame generation image quality
and arming the community with the tools to validate
their leadership because XCSS is really pretty good as far as I can tell
legit excited for this
what else we got today TSMC posts record high profits
they reported their Q2 financials and 13.53
billion in profit on 31 billion in revenue
wow so they're making wow
wow PC Gamer pointed out some comparison numbers
AMD made 709 million dollars in profit
from 7.4 billion in revenue
we think of AMD as a pretty big powerful company sort of
TSMC absolutely eclipses them
they make more profit than AMD does in raw
revenue they post similar margins to TSMC
19 billion profit with 44 billion in revenue
and a big part of this is due to increased demand from the AI boom
and on TSMC's side raising prices per wafer
ASML the only company in the world that makes the extreme UV
lithography machines that TSMC relies on to make its most high end nodes
also posted their Q2 numbers 4.1 billion profit
with about 0.7 billion in sales for a gross margin
of 53.7% however their stock dropped significantly
as the 2026 outlook was chilled by geopolitical tensions
so if you're ever wondering why your GPU is so expensive
there's always a bigger fish you can blame NVIDIA for a big portion of it
absolutely and you'd be right and you'd be right but TSMC is
the one that everyone in the industry is too afraid to blame
because TSMC holds the power
literally NVIDIA and AMD cannot build their products without TSMC
Samsung is only... it's a shadow of its former competitor
and Intel is going through some stuff right now
I believed in Pat's vision
now I just don't know yeah
sorry well Daniel I don't know if Mr. Besser has a way of
moving this to me so I don't know
nah I'm getting over it Reddit is being forced
to verify the age of its UK users
in order to comply with new UK legislation starting on July 14th
oh that was 4 days ago Reddit is having users in the UK
perform robust age verification which will include
an uploaded selfie and a photo of your government ID in order to access mature materials
other sites will also need to perform this kind of check
Reddit says that persona from performing the check has
promised not to retain the picture for longer than 7 days
good luck everyone this will work really good and surely
this data will never fall into the wrong hands god that's a terrible idea
in other good news your internet, that's right yours
our internet at least when you use some free VPNs
there's a saying that goes if you don't pay for the product
then you are the product and this is true of some free VPNs
the incredibly popular Hola VPN perhaps best known as a Chrome extension
for watching region locked videos is not your typical VPN
most people understand the idea behind a VPN actually I don't know if I agree with that
but some people understand the idea behind a VPN you send your data to a server
and then that server finishes the trip and acts as a relay when things come back
allowing you to partially anonymize your data or browse websites like you are
in that other location Hola VPN is a peer to peer VPN
instead of using centralized servers Hola VPN instead sends your connection
through the internet of another user this means that if someone
does engage in shady activity it could be sent through your internet connection
meaning that authorities or rights holders could trace the activity back to you
but peer to peer web traffic is not always a bad thing Tor operates in a similar manner
to make data more difficult to trace it's not anonymous but it can help
the major difference is that on Tor you need to choose to be an exit node
where the data is unencrypted and delivered to its final destination
with the free version of Hola VPN you don't have a choice
however you can instead pay and use their traditional VPN servers
if this is fully communicated I don't believe that most
people who use a free VPN fully understand what they're agreeing to here
so consent maybe but informed consent I don't know
anyway we have our usual VPN partner PIA we'll have them linked
in the video description as usual um yeah they
don't do that it's not super obvious it might be
detailed somewhere on their site but it's not like shouted at you right away
and finally Valve
has updated their rules prohibiting content that may violate
payment processor and bank rules Valve recently updated
their guidelines under what you shouldn't publish on Steam to include
the following content that may violate the rules and standards set forth by
Steam's payment processors and related card networks and banks or internet network
providers in particular certain kinds of adult only content
this was followed shortly by some people noticing that several hundred games
were removed from the Steam store mainly adult themed games
this has sparked several different complaints from people such as
this just proves once again you will never own anything online that can be removed
at any moment and of course how can credit card
companies decide what I can and can't do with my
money that's the big one for me because I'm I guess
just used to the other one no I'm not no it's still bad being able
to remove content that I own is sucky but I think they're only removing it from the store they can't
remove it from your library if you already own it yeah the line about once again you never
own anything they didn't take it from them yeah no I'm more upset about
why is it that credit card companies are the moral arbiters
of the internet they decided we couldn't do certain things
with low play how does that make any sense it's trash
and this is not the first time this has happened for example only fans had an issue a couple
of years ago with major credit card companies pulling out
as payment options because they no longer wanted to be associated with the rising
sex work that was taking place on the site but it's just like buddy
if I go to an ATM and I use my credit card to take out cash
and I buy the services of a hooker like
what are you even talking about like quite
frankly like I don't
really see I don't really see how it's any of your business
I don't think they should be able to at all I think the
government should potentially be able to step in
like but they would be stepping in and like closing the place
down because they're selling drugs or something
but I don't think your credit card company should be able to police what you buy
we have a hypothetical scenario here a creator wants to use
Floatplane as a platform to you know do not say for work content
is it hypocritical if Floatplane says this isn't okay
versus the credit card company deciding it's not okay well I think Floatplane we've always been pretty clear
internally that we don't actually really care what people use it for no but I understand I understand
what they're saying if we're saying that credit card companies shouldn't be able to police
this but we have a platform and we police the platform
is that hypocritical in my opinion the difference is we're nobody yeah
even if we were somebody we're an individual platform you can choose to go somewhere else
this is a unanimous thing from effectively two companies that run
global credit no no no they mean are we being hypocritical criticizing
valve for crumbling and for
for giving in and changing their rules
according to pressure from the credit card companies is that what they're saying
and so and no I don't because valve
does billions and billions of dollars of transactions
with these credit card issuers whereas we are doing
over the time we've existed millions
like I don't think that's what they're saying huh a creator wants
to use Floatplane as a platform to do something along these lines is it hypocritical if Floatplane decides
this isn't okay versus the credit card company the credit card company not steam
oh well okay okay no okay you're right
that was the question but that's not sorry that's not a relevant question because Floatplane never
decided it wasn't okay like we we yeah I guess
that would be hypocritical but we never did that and that I also don't
think it would be hypocritical it wouldn't no
oh which is what I was just explaining if Floatplane decides it's not okay oh
yeah oh no yeah okay okay so there's three different ways that I think
I managed to accidentally interpret this
so you're talking about should we be allowed to have our
rules in our house compared to should our landlord
be allowed to decide or not even our landlord like yeah
like our Mrs. Rochester who lives upstairs
is allowed to decide like what we do in our in our space that we
that is our domain no I think that's completely different
I think this applies to some landlord type situation or something because this is a service
that we are choosing to use the thing is if you want to exist online
as a paid platform you have to use credit card companies and if you're using credit
card companies if you kill visa or mastercard
you have ruined your ability to do business like they they have an effective
monopoly yes so it's it's it's actually
not okay and you can't just like oh well pick up
your bootstraps and make your own credit card company like no it's not going to happen
you literally can't yeah so I
I do not think it is it is fair and equal it's the same thing
is like when you look at like policing moderation and and not
having free speech on like the Linus tech tips forum because it's like
no we don't want the moderators to be just overloaded with constant political conversations
and it's a tech forum get over it talk about tech
stuff yes we allow off topic conversations whatever
blah blah blah I'm completely okay with that because you have near infinite
other solutions that you could use for going and being social
online there is there
is not near infinite other options for for payment processing and
these payment processors genuinely right now kind of decide
how the internet works and how a lot of brick and mortar
places work and to be fair the vast majority of places are going to automatically be
within their policies but if you aren't within their policies they get to dictate what you do we had
a call with I think it was
PayPal really early on and they were like yeah no you
can't do X Y or Z things and that might have in PayPal's defense
that might have been PayPal passing forward this from the credit card companies because
we also had a call with Stripe later on saying we couldn't do X Y or Z things either
even though I think that ended up being in their case maybe actually
hypocritical because I'm pretty sure only fans ended up being too big of a fish
and Stripe went back and is handling things for them anyways let me see
um sound like a bunch of prudes
let me see I thought you with me Dan? Yeah only fans currently
uses Stripe as their payment processor so they got over it because they saw the bag
was huge and decided to do it anyway
so I guess that's where I was going with the bit about how Valve could
Valve is a big enough fish that they could just be like
I dare you I dare you
to turn off MasterCard and piss off
literally every gamer who shops on Steam and uses MasterCard
you've got to be kidding me right now because
people would be rioting they'd be going to their banks
demanding to be able to use MasterCard on Steam
they'd be like okay then I want a different credit card there's no way
I think it's one of those things where like I think people would actually go
I think there are some people that would demand a different credit card but Visa and MasterCard move in lockstep on this
again effective monopoly so there aren't a ton of other options
some but not very many there's some but their back ends
are still what is it Cirrus and
whatever the other one is which is Cirrus and Monaris which are effectively
they're just you know it's the same thing basically you can't get away from it
it's kind of like how the insurance industry is all dictated by the underwriters
and there's like a handful of them
yeah exactly you're going to get screwed
and with something like OnlyFans that industry
was already used to sketchy alternative payment
methods and I don't know but I'm assuming that's what OnlyFans used in the past
so this was net new market whereas I think their argument
could be that that might be enough to finally push people off of Steam to another platform
so they might not actually lose those users I don't know man I think
Valve would retain those users and I think that if I think that
they have this way to basically
go to the Steam gaming community and say hey we're not going to be held hostage
by this go to your bank literally go to your bank tomorrow
and demand to know why you can't buy games on Steam
they'd have to pull a Epic Games
versus Apple yeah and you know it would be wild as if they like
offered free games to people that didn't have those credit cards or something
Valve doesn't campaign I think Valve does their own thing
they're very quiet yeah they quietly do their own thing and GabeN hangs out on his yacht
and does interviews with for channels that have like dozens of subscribers
apparently do you see that this week no yeah he did an interview
with just like those sound too salty
I've never asked him for an interview but just like he did no it was actually
another article I read that pointed out that the people he did the interview with
just like were not huge cool
he responds to like random people that email him and stuff yep
I don't think so
did I get an email from him at some point hold on a second
I
don't think I ever got a response but I did send him
a whiny email once and my problem was resolved
sometimes that's a form of response basically I said that our PR rep
was completely f***ing useless and pointed out
that we have literally the top viewed piece of media
on every piece of Valve hardware ever and it's an embarrassment that
we not only were not seeded something I couldn't even buy it
and they weren't able to accommodate me buying I think this was the index
yeah it sounds like the index and it's just like
guys I'm willing to buy it
and you're not able to accommodate getting this thing into my hand so that I can cover it
come on I forgot about this until
very recently actually but that's very related to how I ended up getting
Palmer Lucky's contact is raged out at one point on twitter
back when it was twitter about how like
the amount of work that I've done since like the very beginning
and like the quality level of our reviews at that time
and all this kind of stuff I still couldn't get actual emails
back from anyone at Oculus I still couldn't get
good samples I still could we were just buying things up front
often getting them super late and all this kind of stuff was still happening
and he responded and then that's how we ended up getting
stuff in the future was just talking to him directly
I don't know if you remember that that's hilarious
I didn't get anything from him again so that's what's all
yeah I'd copy it probably not
Dan's like uh huh I want my like
border crossing radar thing
whatever yeah
how did noki have that immediately available that's uh
apparently there was a reddit thread from 10 years ago
that simple kind of thing noki would do
immediately had it
but yeah
I do not think I'm going to be able to uh
I don't think I'm going to be able to find this what are you trying to find
I'm trying to find the uh I'm trying to find my whiny email
they've been they've been really good lately I mean they're
valve so they're like not super communicative or whatever like they're good
in their valve but before that they were like
my contact was utterly useless um
like you'd have to be just completely not doing your job to not notice
like the media outlet
that literally has the top performing video on every single hardware
product you've ever released like come on noki was like
tell Linus to give me his email credentials and I'll find it lol
then you could you'd find all kinds of stuff in there
yeah yeah
um are we in after dark I think
maybe anything else
we are in after dark hooray
huzzah
here we go no I've got it I've got it I knew this is going to be hilarious this is from 2021
so I emailed my my press contacts
I said um the subject line is steam pal
um we're very interested in covering this and would love to get access ahead of time
so we can have day one coverage I sent a follow up um
three weeks later which I think is a pretty reasonable amount of time to send a follow up
hi name I haven't gotten replies from you the last couple of times I've emailed
is it possible my emails are getting filtered again which means
you're ignoring my emails you piece of
can you please pay attention and at the very least reply to my email and tell me you're not interested
I know you're getting my emails but that's like that's like corporate nice speak for
I know you're getting my emails can you please respond
hold on I accidentally just press the power button on my laptop so I know I get to
where to go use Windows hello okay and then
um another three weeks later
which again I think is a very reasonable amount of time to wait
I I CC'd Gabe and I said
I guess it ended up being called steam deck I read about it on the verge today
no pre-briefing no mailing list email no communication at all
I don't like throwing people under the bus so last time
oh no I did email him and I did get a response from this guy the time before last time
I had to email you to get a response from person I spun it as maybe my
emails are going to his spam lol oops at this point I've waited years for a change
so it's time for some honest feedback this guy is one of if not the worst and least responsive media
relations reps I've ever encountered is there anyone else at Valve
we can work at work work with if there is I'd love to start that conversation if I'm stuck
with him can you please gently remind him that we are among the highest viewed media outlets in the world
for basically every piece of hardware Valve has released in the last few years link link link link link link link
even if we weren't completely ignoring emails is just rude thanks for reading and have a
wonderful day and I got a new rep immediately
I wonder
I wonder I wonder stuff like this like he probably
has someone who monitors his inbox I don't know if he never even saw it
and it just got taken care of I don't think so I don't think so I mean
that last interview I read it was really good and
he just said I don't know I mean you could take people's words with a grain of salt right
but he says he just loves to work and he just works day and night and he just
loves what he's working on he's got like that neuro implant company and like
like ocean stuff and like valve and I don't know whatever my job
was that cool I'd probably I'd probably think
it was pretty cool too apparently he said a bunch of times that he's the only one that
reads his emails Hamnetics says
you didn't throw him under the bus you threw him in the bus that was thrown into the grand canyon
well like look the guy ignored me for six weeks on
the most important hardware and software product that valve has
probably ever released in terms of the impact this is going to have on the industry
I wanted to be part of it to support it
like it's not like he was like trying to shield valve from like an unfair critic
or something like that like I am an ally
pun intended of the steam deck and the mission of SteamOS
come on man
ah yeah anyway
um Dan it's after dark
should we do some merch messages yeah let's do some merch messages
well sometimes you have to be a Karen to get things done man I don't make the rules
the root word of Karen is care
thanks Luke no problem
I got you hey DLO this question is directly towards
Linus do you ever plan to do any other interviews any social media or television media
personally you should make an appearance on hot ones
um I mean
I would have loved to go on tonight's show Stephen Colbert too bad it's cancelled
um let me try and think
where else would I love to go we've talked about what it would be like to do
like Joe Rogan for instance I really just don't know what
I don't know what I'd talk to him about I don't think he'd be interested in me
he's got other YouTubers yeah but interesting ones
whereas like the late show format I think is good
because he had on now because now I want to see
because now Linus thinks they are more interesting than him um
well it's all about your particular interest like I know he's had like the Paul brothers on
but they're like into fighting I'm not
like what are my overlapping interests with Mr. Rogan
I'm pretty sure he's had Marquez he's had Mr. Beast
okay but Mr. Beast is literally the face of
YouTuber Marquez is
way more mainstream and trendy like come on
does that mean more interesting are you conceding that he's more interesting than you
I'm conceding that Joe Rogan would find that more interesting and a more mainstream audience
would find that more interesting I mean look
hey look the metrics are out there right like I think Marquez's
views for video is like double or triple what we do quadruple somewhere
in that range like in terms of raw numbers of views
on the channel it's higher but we're more prolific uploaders
so in terms of like what's the what's the audience breadth
I think it's higher especially with some of the very
moment products that he
gets early access to like Apple Vision Pro would be a great example
to twist that knife a little bit more for you
Luke was very upset that we were late on Vision Pro yeah
we shouldn't have been
see I will not concede see how bothered he is
let me make it up to you do you want another chip
I could use another chip maybe
cause I could give you another chip yeah well give me a second
I'm preparing to receive another chip
what do you got to do you got to get your like mouth saliva
warmed up or like this now you're making it kind of weird I don't I'm not sure if I want to give you the chip
anymore here just do it alright alright here's your chip okay
I go you're welcome
sorry
I
forgot to drop my chip
you screwed it up I like making messes
still can eat it
it's actually really smooth
anyway I'm down to be invited to things I often
don't get invited to things I'm a little bit dorky I get it
and that's cool I like that YouTube acknowledges me now
I appreciate that for a long time they didn't they they they had
this thing where they like went really far away from tech they were trying like not to
be tech even though in the early days of YouTube it was like very tech like tech was on the front page we had
a category and everything and then they were like we don't want to be tech no we're
cool we're cool we're cool and then so they like didn't want to engage with
not just me but like a lot of tech creators and then now they're very acknowledging of their
tech creators I think they do a much better job of it so that's good enough for me
and if I'm ever feeling sad about people not inviting me to you know
more cool formats like you know late shows or hot ones or
Joe Rogan experience or whatever then I'll just cry on my
play buttons I'll be okay
it would be pretty painful to wipe your tears with play buttons
but I'm sure you can find a way
hmm no I don't know about painful
not very effective mind you
yeah fair enough Dan
I was going to say can we like mute mine when you're talking because I think that's the problem
but I think people are also hearing you twice and they're hearing you through mine
should we just have Dan sit next to Luke that's an idea I'm just
I'm just pitching ideas
I don't actually you don't have the dashboard open you
guys no I don't I mean I can
I can read them Luke you can read them I'll read them I literally just said
I don't have them Jared W spent $309
good Lord and said good idea LL
did Linus find a solution to his HDMI CEC constantly swapping to shield
if so what was it solutions online don't fix it for me
um no I didn't I went and I bought
an old harmony remote and um
I'm gonna install it now because that's what I know how to use
and I am old and I like using things that I know how to use
so that's I'm gonna turn all the CEC stuff off on everything
and I'm gonna use a universal remote again even though that is ridiculous
oh right I guess I read merge messages now sorry I forgot
uh let's move on to the next merge message this is throwing me off
um Jonathan E says hey LLD
bring back the byte blocks uh do you have any tips on dealing with
other teams that lack accountability and often push blame on to others for
their own actions love the wancho as always
oh
I think at the end of the day the only
possible solution to that is forthright
honest conversations and part of the challenge and I've been running into
this a fair bit lately is everyone's version of the
honest truth is a little bit different and that doesn't necessarily mean
it's malicious it can just mean that our our individual lived experiences are
it doesn't even necessarily mean it's wrong yeah which is
a fun one yeah yeah 100% because so
much of how we communicate is not just the words it's tone it's body language
um it's it's the past history that we have
with that particular person or with those particular people that can color
um any future interactions it can be really challenging to arrive
on a single universal one truth that we can all agree on and so
um your perception might be that that team lacks
accountability but their perception might be that you have
unrealistic and unreasonable demands um
and so digging in and finding the answer to that is
it it's really tough um it requires
unflinching honesty and introspection and leadership on both
sides and if the other party is not acting good faith in good faith that can be
damn near impossible I wish I had a better answer for you
Luke if you have some other stuff that you'd like to elaborate on that with then go for it
but I yeah I just don't really think I have anything for you mediation can often
be helpful that's a good one
but it's that's why we have Dan here otherwise
it's not it's not a
easy problem to solve
it can sometimes come from people just reacting too quickly
so if you're if you're gonna try to like work with somebody to resolve this I wouldn't go into it just
uh full accusatory even if it fully feels that way on your
end because again the truth can be different it's
very difficult but still um because
you know maybe they don't think that they're wrong about
themselves shirking blame they don't think it's actually their fault
but that's because they don't have the perspective of other parties or
where they think a certain process is maybe supposed to work a certain way and nobody else
actually thinks that or whatever else the situation might be more complicated and it seems
on the surface and I would recommend leaving room for that to be true or honestly
just leave room for them to save face on the way yeah kind of like how my
my email hey uh my email is going to your spam filter
it might be in your spam and then they could be like oh yeah sorry
it was give them an out whatever let them give them
a path forward that doesn't require an apology
is a powerful strategy for resolving
differences it does mean that you just have to high road it and
um and just you know deal with that that transgression
is never going to be addressed and you're never going to get an apology but if it gives you a path
forward then that's great and if it ultimately doesn't work hey pack them into the bus
and hook it into the grand canyon yeah
I am equipped to read them now but this one is to me so
question for Luke from Andrew H.
you've spoken before about how you worked hard to get yourself into better physical shape how did you
motivate yourself to not give up do you have any tips for people looking to do the same
um I'm actually on a
on a down track right now which is unfortunate I find this
I get sick like way too often um and I find that I don't actually have
an insane appetite unless I'm sick a lot of people lose their appetite when they're sick and my
appetite goes through the freaking moon uh so I find it hard to regulate
weight while I'm sick because I tend to balloon
unless I'm like really pleasing myself um
so I've been struggling a little bit lately just due to sickness and travel cycles
um but I'm definitely still motivated
um and the the strength portion is still
decently high because that that doesn't have too many issues
um the motivation is it's not it's not I've talked
about this before it's not motivation anymore it's um it's an internal
demand it's I don't go to
the gym because I'm motivated I go to the gym because I have to um
and it helps that I tend to enjoy it when I'm there but I am a
person who struggles with mode shifting so once I'm doing a thing I want to keep doing
it I've described this before as like um you know
uh every time I try to preface this before I say it uh with I take
showers every day but I never want to get into the shower once I'm
in the shower I could genuinely happily stay there for like an hour
um I like to keep doing the thing that I'm doing this also creates a
problem where like I never want to go to bed I never want to go to sleep
I could stay up for so long and have no problem the problem will then
be that once I go to sleep I don't want to get out hear me out
maybe this is a chicken and egg problem if you could lose more weight you could
solve your inertia problem ha ha ha ha
ha ha ha maybe it's just a lot of work
for you to change change what you're doing
um I was do I was doing pretty well in the first little bit of the year um
and then the I was I was down
18 pounds before the compitex trip
and then traveling for three weeks and then I was sick for a really long time after
that and the combination was I was out of the gym
and having issues with eating because of either being sick or
being travel or traveling and that like six plus weeks
of being out just set me so far back it's it's really
disappointing but I don't um the disappointment doesn't
demotivate me because again it's not motivation that's driving me it's a it's
an internal requirement I have to do uh that's that's 100% of spectra marker
yeah I'm somewhere on it I don't really care I'm happy with how I operate so I don't
care to deal with it but um I
I'm going to go regardless and I'm going to do these things regardless so I'm not worried about
that that it sucks and it's disappointing to have lost progress but
it in no way impedes my desire to keep moving forward um
it's just my I am further back from the goal that I wanted
by the end of this year than I would have like to have been at this point that does not mean that the goal
that I have for the end of this year is impossible and even if it was okay
just commit to improving habits moving forward and push the goal
back a little bit to a reasonable point and genuinely push towards
doing that that's how I've always kind of aimed for this um I had a bunch of strength goals
and then I got brutally sick for like six months this was a while ago
and a lot of my strength goals fell back so I just deferred them and then eventually
hit them and I just you just keep moving you have to be relentless with it
I think like I hit a certain age where it's like
to be healthy it is a requirement that I need to be in the gym
I don't necessarily know if this is as true for everybody but I
if I don't use my body I get mentally
depressed that is a truth for me I'm not necessarily saying that is a truth for all of you
that is a truth for me I have to be out there and I have to do things
I'm sure I could replace the gym with any form of sport or physical
activity that actively used my muscles I don't think it has to be the gym I'm sure I could
help people move every day and maybe be fine because for me
I think that's really the point is that I have to move
I think you'd actually thrive on that you like helping people and like you like physical activity
I think you'd be done I don't think it's the gym in particular
um yeah I I like try to
I was there's a move happening at LMG right now and I'm actually sad that
I'm not helping I was going to volunteer to help this weekend we have a couple departments that are moving around
from here I was like why is it this weekend I actually wanted
to do that but uh yeah
a big one for me is accountability buddies as well um if you're on a
team or if you have a group that does whatever it is that you're doing that's physical activity
regularly that goes such a long way like last
night um I had badminton training like I like
sparring so not like with an instructor or whatever
uh but one of our guys who works at smash champs I saw him like recording
one of his games and I was like yo you never record your game what are you even doing
um he's like oh man no I was like really motivated when badminton insight came out
and like we got to play against them and just like um it was really
inspirational and I want to like get sweaty I want to I want to improve again and I was
like oh that sounds sick like we should we should have like badminton
improvement dates let's let we'll spar we can run drills and stuff like that because
badminton's a sport that's nearly impossible to train by yourself
there are some things you can do you can just go on a corridor in an empty parking
lot and you can like do footwork drills or um you know you can hit
against a wall and stuff like that there are things you can do but like
if you really want to play you need someone to hit the
shuttle back to you and um so last night
uh so okay let's back up so on Wednesday night um
Yvonne asked me to feed her which is what it's called when um you have a really
weird dynamic in your relationship around food no just kidding um
she asked me to feed her which is what it's called when you like grab a whole row of
shuttles on your ARM and you like toss them up and and hit them so that someone can like work
on their consistency um and instead of just going
and feeding Yvonne I fed her for like an hour and then I was like oh well okay
you know you're probably you're probably too tired to do drills anymore but do you want to
do you want to go play like a couple mixed doubles games we have our grand opening tournament coming up and Yvonne and I
are going to be playing together and uh she was like okay yeah we can go play a couple games
we ended up playing like five games and they were like super intense
and I was running a ton and so last night Thursday I was
I was bushwhacked dude like I did not feel like it
but like what I'm gonna bail don't be
a flake you know you can't be another thing dude if if I
I my it's a it's a bad cycle because I
will start again I mean I'm I'm literally in the middle of
doing well with it right now so it's not that but I'm saying in general if there's a down cycle I get
sick or I'm traveling or whatever I will start again it's no problem but it is always
the worst because my energy is the lowest when I'm
it feels so like counter-intuitive but if I'm not going and
expending large amounts of energy my average energy level will be
very low I feel it too and I get like irritable
I get like cranky yeah and I'll be like hey
I haven't like played badminton in two weeks like I haven't done anything
the most zen I will literally ever be is if I have
a genuinely maximum effort leg workout
on the drive home I don't think I will ever be more calm
than like in that moment I'm just so relaxed
it's it's actually wild
elemental exposure asks shuttle versus birdie
so the official term is shuttle cock in a lot of
the western world people don't really like the whole
cock tee hee thing so we call it a shuttle and filthy casuals
call it a birdie you're welcome
so if you said birdie I would assume you mean like a plastic one
you know yeah honestly that makes sense to me
when bingo chronified says I say we call it a shuttle dick
you know what I could get on board
you know what want to smack want to smack the dick around
so that the like so if I go to feed Yvonne
we'll be feeding her yeah yeah yeah
yeah sounds good should I read the next one
sure where do you see car automation
going in the future will there eventually be a government
led open source software that all cars will have
so they can communicate with each other on the road I mean
that's a pretty cool utopian dream but I don't know if it's
compatible with the current
sort of capitalistic structure that we
live in I would love
haha and I think it was in response to this
yeah I mean government controlled an open source
already sounds like it's not going to be a thing all cars
communicating on the road sounds like it's not going to be a thing that would just be rife with potential
for abuse I would love cars to have like
responders or something like that that give each other situational awareness of the actions
that they're taking and the actions they intend to take
I'd love to see like an open framework for that that allows interoperation
excuse me I don't know who is going to be motivated
to drive it though pun intended
next merge message hold on
BRJD says control dot dot dot utopia
well yeah but that's the whole point
is that in a utopia you would have a benevolent government that would do
stuff like this but like that's why we said
hahaha come on man
hey wan.dll I triggered the paint rant a few days ago
when I made my first purchase a few years ago
right yeah anything new Linus wants to rant about
I mean we just did our tech gripes video
I don't know if I have the energy to rant right now my lips hurt
but hey thanks for your purchase enjoy your style blue
whatever it is that you bought oh three items
precision multi-bit screwdriver and bit case and a jerry rig razor knife
okay what is that but that style blue how does that make any sense
oh for the thing on there that was their message
yes yep that makes sense I had to look for it for a second
okay there it is blue style nice
most esteemed danonite order
humbly requesting an update on the sacred bike
also at Linus visiting Vancouver in September and he must
ride roads for a loyal two-wheeled pilgrim k-pings
I am going to
I am not going to ride in July
I reached out I said hey on Wednesday actually I reached out are we still on track
for me to ride this month and buddy's not been feeling well so I
basically said don't worry man at this point the delay is 96% on me so I don't want
to lose any sleep over it so I'll get I want to get it more than
96 you know what I've had enough of your I've had enough of your crap
the fact that he stored it in his place this whole time is wild
but alright
next person message is from she chou oh hopefully said that right
how is the new door lock working for you the wireless
charging seems like quite interesting for me to consider
it for my future smart lock I
really like it so far it is a door lock but
smart and wirelessly charges it does
exactly what it says on the tin I actually didn't know that that video was up yet I
wonder how it's doing I have no idea what people's appetite is for
like a ludicrously expensive
door lock apparently pretty good it's a
210 for the channel hilarious
I guess it's a good title I waited seven years for a zero battery
smart lock which I did that company I first saw them
at Computex and then we first collaborated with them seven years ago
they actually flew out here and showed us their technology it's infrared wireless power transmission
and it's super cool why charge and
we actually talked about them on WAN Show a little while ago which was what prompted them to reach out
and offer to send this door lock over because Luke and I were talking about them and I was like
do they still exist like did they make it or what and they
emailed me they're like we very much have survived thank you for mentioning us
also are you interested in checking out any of our new stuff pretty cool
okay
alright next one I'm not
necessarily sure what this means so hopefully Linus knows hey LLD could Linus touch
in more detail about the all sales final thing
don't know what that is is the mystery screwdriver bought for limeday still under warranty
it would be great to see the power outlet in the US as well
yeah all sales final doesn't mean that
you have no warranty necessarily it means that
you can't like just change your mind
and be like oh yeah I I don't want it anymore oh wait wait wait
wait unless you're talking about like the B stock stuff like if you're just like
oh yeah I you know I didn't realize that
this used item was going to have a little scuff on it
then it definitely wouldn't cover that hold on a second though
I just want to I just want to check something it is possible
that some of the held on used like new pictures
contain oh wait
no some okay I don't know what you're asking here because
it's explicit on these items power outlet purchases are
final no returns exchanges warranty they are what they are
so there you go pictures contain examples of cosmetic
wear read the fine print questions please read our FAQ
what is the power outlet returned and like new gear available
at reduced prices while supplies last it is only available to consumers residing in whatever
can they be returned to exchange no no exceptions meaning refunds exchanges will not
be granted for these products there we go I'm glad we got a very very clear answer
for you they are sold as is and are excluded for warranty coverage you're buying these things for a
fraction of the price in some cases for a fraction
of what we paid for them so it is what it is and
enjoy the deal would be great
to see the power outlet in the US as well um yeah
would but I don't know when if ever that'll happen because I don't even
know if a lot of stuff gets returned anymore I think there's been
kind of a sea change in in e-commerce um where things that ultimately
are not able to be delivered just end up being destroyed rather than being returned
to us in many cases so I don't even know how much how many
returns we're going to get these days but you know if it happens it happens and
it'll be a good deal for people who don't mind buying something final sale
interesting um okay
hi lunis like and lan when our bonus bin
items coming back I was looking forward to getting a sticker sheet or a pin
the shoelaces would also be cool um
we are looking at the bonus bin and trying to get some stuff going on
we've been extremely bogged down with
just global logistics being an absolute show
with like tariff stuff and everybody and their dog trying to
mass import stuff before tariff stuff but then tariff stuff goes away and
like we've had less bandwidth for the things that we
want to do to delight our customers
cause we've had to waste so much of it on just horse shit so
we're not the only ones that are feeling it so I'm not asking for anyone to like feel bad for
us or whatever we're just you're seeing the cracks form
I'm just going to read the next one anyways I feel like it's easier this way
Luke I used to play pogo or pokemon go but don't have the community anymore
instead I've started birding I get walking I get
community and I find critters without the screen have you ever thought about
trying birding not so much
being a bird person of sorts I do enjoy seeing birds when I'm out
but I have not thought of going birding something that I do these days
with pokemon go to look at the screen less is I got
those call again pokemon go plus
plus so you don't even have to have your phone
unlocked you have it locked in your pocket and either the thing will try to
catch stuff automatically for you or you can press the button on it
and it'll like buzz if it detects something and if you press the button it'll throw a better
ball at it so sometimes I'll do that so I can go to a community
event and never actually even look at my phone and then
just walk around the whole time without doing this which sounds a lot better it feels
nicer on my neck I will inadvertently
do things like notice birds more and stuff like that
defeats the purpose of pokemon go know it doesn't because
the thing will buzz twice detecting that something is there you press the
button and then it will attempt
to catch or go like just like the pokeball going it
and then be like oh you got your pokemon it will it will do
buzzes that mimic that but if you get it then it'll go like
so it indicates that you got it and it'll do the attempting to catch
thing but if it fails it'll go so you know that you failed
and when you're out at a community day it's usually the same pokemon every single
time so you don't need to see it on your screen and there's a bunch of the
hyper nerds that are out playing that are doing I think it's called speed catching
or something and they barely even see this stuff anyways so like I don't see
a difference personally and I am not playing
that game I have said this before I think pokemon go is actually a very
bad game the only reason why I like it is because it gets
me outside and this is an evolution that gets me outside and looking
at my screen less what a banger
that sounds great to me I don't like the actual gameplay
of pokemon go is so bad the PvP is terrible
the PvE is terrible
yeah the gameplay sucks anyways so why do I care
if I'm getting little dopamine hits from walking
because my thing is buzzing look you caught the thing
that is going around right now or whatever
then sweet I'm accomplishing the same thing my brain is happy because I'm playing
a video game but I'm playing a video game without looking at a screen
which is sick I have personally found a way to gamify this
in a way that benefits me heavily and I enjoy therefore I think
cool there you go
you look at your pokemon when you get back I will search for four star
and if I don't find any I transfer all of them
so it takes me like seconds
I don't care
I think that's there's an incoming
but there's no more curated I'm already forwarding
that incoming to the relevant parties I don't know
if we're going to be able to fix their issue in time they ordered the wrong size for
a power outlet item and they want it changed
to the right size before it ships it's possible that we'll be able to
catch it before it shifts and just give you a refund but I don't know
if we'll be able to change it
the whole thing with power outlet all sales final see you later
so we might be able to catch it and cancel it but I don't know if we'll be able to
change it to something else that might go out of stock before we're able to look at it
it's 9pm on Friday and the warehouse
during heavy times like lime day is sometimes packing things
over the weekend when our customer service is not in office so I don't
I don't know if I can promise you
I want to throw out another game or move that you can do with Pokemon Go
because I've said this forever I think a lot of people play games incorrectly
they only go for the incentives that the game tells them
to go for they don't do things beyond that
they don't find their own ways to create difficulties they don't find their own ways to have fun
they just follow the byline or they follow the achievements that the game lays out
or whatever else and Pokemon Go is one of those Pokemon has a not very popular feature
called routes but a route could be like a trail that you can walk
and when you get to the end it gives you like an extremely minor reward
which is why it's not popular if you don't care about the reward so much
and you do it because there's at least a little bit of reward while you walk along the route there's a slightly increased
Pokemon spawn along the route while you're doing it
so you can walk you can literally go for a little hike
you can go with someone else whatever and you don't have to be actually distracted
conversational or anything or be staring at your phone because you can just boop boop boop press the little button
or just let it go off in your pocket automatically and you're literally not interacting
with it at all and you can still have your little goopy goblin
gamer brain gaining little little goopy goblin gamer brain
little bonus nugget things and be out walking
enjoying nature head up not staring at screen potentially conversating with another person
it's freaking sick don't just do what the game wants you to do
do the thing that you want to do and have fun with
cool nice
all right well that's it for the land show oh man I was sore I didn't talk for a little bit there
and the braces got all like stuck into the like
ragged flesh inside my lips we'll see you again next week
same bad time same bad channel what a visual
bye
you