{"video_id":"fp_y0PIg2Os3B","title":"Floatplane Clip: 4 LTT Writers on Wireless Peripherals","channel":"FP Exclusives","show":"FP Exclusives","published_at":"2025-12-02T18:49:00.087Z","duration_s":370,"segments":[{"start_s":0.0,"end_s":3.68,"text":"are wireless peripherals a waste of money?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":3.68,"end_s":7.36,"text":"No, no, come on. Not a waste of money.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":7.36,"end_s":10.6,"text":"I think yes, I think they're 100% a waste. Why?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":10.6,"end_s":14.28,"text":"I think that depending. Well, first of all, it definitely depends on the peripheral.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":14.28,"end_s":17.48,"text":"I think that wireless mouse is fine.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":17.48,"end_s":20.68,"text":"Wireless keyboard, sure. But wireless audio drives me crazy. That's crazy.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":20.68,"end_s":24.6,"text":"That's crazy. That's wireless keyboard. Yeah, that's the same board. The most useless wireless.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":24.6,"end_s":27.92,"text":"Yeah. Oh, well, just because I have like a hybrid setup","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":27.92,"end_s":31.2,"text":"that is also a catch setup. So it's really nice to be able to use wireless.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":31.2,"end_s":36.28,"text":"I don't think most people need wireless keyboards. I just think that they can totally be used and it's fine.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":36.28,"end_s":40.24,"text":"And they're not that much of a waste of money if you intend to move around and stuff.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":40.24,"end_s":43.76,"text":"And a mouse, it's annoying when the cable catches on something, sure.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":43.76,"end_s":46.76,"text":"But wireless audio just drives me nuts.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":46.76,"end_s":50.32,"text":"Whether it's something cheap and it can't do, like if you've got a cheap headset,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":50.32,"end_s":53.92,"text":"your audio is going to get degraded when it's enabling both the mic and the headphones.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":53.92,"end_s":58.44,"text":"And a lot of people don't even realize that until they plug it in. If you're doing a Bluetooth headset.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":58.44,"end_s":63.64,"text":"Yes. Oh, God, Windows is so stupid. And I know that is fair.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":63.64,"end_s":68.64,"text":"2.4 gigahertz is a lot better. But so I think Bluetooth is just 2.4 gigahertz.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":71.72,"end_s":77.92,"text":"I hate names and tech. But I just when I'm especially if I'm sitting at a computer,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":77.92,"end_s":81.32,"text":"the price of have wireless headphones is like doubles the price of it.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":81.32,"end_s":85.92,"text":"I think we'd have to go peripheral by peripheral to really make it that it's worth it.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":85.92,"end_s":89.8,"text":"Because I agree, keyboard, if you're not using like utilizing","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":89.8,"end_s":93.56,"text":"a hybrid setup, who cares? Headset, you're you're probably right.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":93.56,"end_s":99.0,"text":"Like $100 wired headphones, pretty damn good. $100 wireless headset probably sucks.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":99.0,"end_s":102.56,"text":"Where I would push back is like wireless nice are so much better.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":102.56,"end_s":105.84,"text":"Like in terms of like not just snagging, but also weight.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":105.84,"end_s":109.88,"text":"And like there's so many situations where like I would way rather have the freedom to just move.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":109.88,"end_s":114.64,"text":"They are not expensive anymore. Like that we are way past the point of wireless stuff","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":114.84,"end_s":118.44,"text":"costing a premium. There is wired premium mice that cost way more","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":118.44,"end_s":125.32,"text":"than cheap wireless mice that aren't that different in performance. And you can get a baller ass $50 wireless gaming mouse these days.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":125.44,"end_s":129.64,"text":"I think the biggest problem for me with wireless peripherals and why I don't like it is I will always forget the charge.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":129.88,"end_s":134.92,"text":"And for me, that inconvenience is enough that it's never worth it to go with a wireless peripheral.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":134.92,"end_s":138.2,"text":"I know there's obviously Logitech, the power play mat","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":138.2,"end_s":142.08,"text":"where you can charge your mouse. But then it's so small. Also, it's not even available in Canada.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":142.08,"end_s":145.28,"text":"So I can't even get one if I want. Is it really not? No, it's not available in Canada.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":145.28,"end_s":150.2,"text":"Those are like radio laws. Yeah. Yeah. So everyone who has one here, you've committed a crime.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":150.2,"end_s":153.96,"text":"It also freaks me out that like our country refused it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":153.96,"end_s":156.36,"text":"and that they're still selling it elsewhere. I'm like, is it a cancer machine?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":157.0,"end_s":160.4,"text":"But that inconvenience of having to remember to charge something","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":160.4,"end_s":165.64,"text":"or even just swapping out a double A. It's one of those things that's so quick. Yes, but and I got to remember to buy double A batteries.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":166.2,"end_s":170.44,"text":"I don't like batteries in my house. I plug everything in. The problem, your problem that you have with wireless peripherals","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":170.44,"end_s":178.44,"text":"is a skill issue. Yeah, I'm so used to plugging things in that that's not a real issue.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":178.44,"end_s":181.48,"text":"For me, the only thing that runs out of batteries is wireless headsets.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":181.48,"end_s":185.16,"text":"That's the one I forget to plug in. Mouse runs out every once every eight months.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":185.16,"end_s":190.04,"text":"So it's like, I get to my computer and it's not plugged. It's I just charge and I go grab a jink and I come back and then I can play.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":190.04,"end_s":196.68,"text":"For me, it's my PS5 controller. It dies on me all the time on my PC because I don't get a low battery warning.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":197.32,"end_s":203.16,"text":"Also, it doesn't just like turn off. Yeah, it just turns off. Like on your PlayStation, it goes, oh, I haven't received an input.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":203.16,"end_s":206.6,"text":"It automatically turns off. Your Windows is just like, you're Bluetooth, you're connected.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":206.6,"end_s":210.52,"text":"Yeah. And so it just drains overnight. Windows sucks. Windows does suck.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":210.52,"end_s":216.12,"text":"Actually, no, my controller will turn off. If I leave it, if I don't input inputs, it'll go to sleep.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":216.12,"end_s":219.64,"text":"But I mean, it's still like when they're brand new, it's like maximum five hours of battery.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":219.64,"end_s":222.76,"text":"It goes to sleep when your computer goes to sleep, usually. Oh, wow. No, no, no.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":222.76,"end_s":226.44,"text":"The Xbox controllers only go to sleep. Oh, really? They go to sleep. But those work for 40 hours.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":226.44,"end_s":230.6,"text":"Yeah, they do. They're great. They're great battery. I really like the lot about the DualSense,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":230.6,"end_s":234.92,"text":"but I wish they made a DualSense light that dropped some of the features, kept the shape,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":234.92,"end_s":238.28,"text":"and like some of the other features that last for 20 hours.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":238.28,"end_s":241.72,"text":"I literally double the battery in it. I don't care about the extra weight. Yeah, me neither.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":241.72,"end_s":246.2,"text":"Put double the battery life in it and just make it heavier. It's a good controller, but it's crazy.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":246.2,"end_s":251.48,"text":"Like I have a little charging stand for my PS5 controllers because as soon as I'm done playing, it's going on there.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":251.48,"end_s":255.16,"text":"But I shouldn't have to. No. I shouldn't have to freaking buy an accessory","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":255.16,"end_s":259.64,"text":"just so that my two-player controllers can remain charred. That's like a what, $50 accessory?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":259.64,"end_s":263.72,"text":"Maybe like $30. OK, that's not too bad. I think we might still be split on this","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":263.72,"end_s":267.56,"text":"because I'm still saying it's not worth it for wireless peripherals. What about you guys?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":267.56,"end_s":271.08,"text":"I think it's worth it. I think it's worth it. And you want to do this?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":271.08,"end_s":274.6,"text":"What? No, because you said it's not worth it. I see. The question is. Oh, oh yeah, it's reversed.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":274.6,"end_s":280.44,"text":"So I can do that. My bad. So, OK, but like we are saying all in this statement,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":280.44,"end_s":284.68,"text":"it's all wireless or all wired? I would go all wired.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":284.68,"end_s":287.96,"text":"The statement is, are wireless peripherals worth it?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":287.96,"end_s":290.84,"text":"Are we talking? No, they're not worth it. Money-wise? Are they not?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":291.8,"end_s":295.96,"text":"Can you read the read exactly? Are wireless peripherals a waste of money?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":295.96,"end_s":299.56,"text":"Yes, they are. No, wireless peripherals introduce a lot of benefits","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":299.56,"end_s":304.68,"text":"and freedoms. They have their downsides and they should be known. I think they are worth the extra money.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":304.68,"end_s":309.48,"text":"And you can run most of them wired anyway. Exactly. I was going to say the best case scenario for headphones","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":309.48,"end_s":314.28,"text":"is if you can get like if you think about like a lot more consumer headphones are doing this.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":315.0,"end_s":319.8,"text":"Like your Sony XM5s have 3.5 millimeter out. So you can get wired latency free audio.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":319.8,"end_s":323.4,"text":"You can get at high quality. The Odyssey Maxwells are a gaming headset","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":323.4,"end_s":328.28,"text":"where you can remove the microphone. And you can have wireless or you can plug in","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":328.28,"end_s":331.64,"text":"and get and get like low latency audio.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":331.64,"end_s":336.44,"text":"And you can use them out with your phone. You can use them on the go. XM5s are like $500 though, right?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":336.44,"end_s":341.08,"text":"Or like 300 bucks? Yeah. I could buy a pair of headphones.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":341.08,"end_s":344.2,"text":"Are you walking around with the $200 wired headphones","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":344.2,"end_s":348.44,"text":"right now? No. I don't want to walk around the play. To be fair, I do walk around with AirPods.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":348.44,"end_s":352.28,"text":"So I guess I got wireless peripherals. That's a fair point.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":352.28,"end_s":355.72,"text":"Do our earbuds part of this conversation? I actually we're talking PC peripherals.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":355.72,"end_s":360.6,"text":"I totally go back to wired earbuds if only because of if they fall out","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":360.6,"end_s":363.64,"text":"and you can't find them anymore because they go away.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":363.64,"end_s":367.16,"text":"Again, they blame it on a skill issue. Okay. Okay. Next question. Interesting.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":367.16,"end_s":369.8,"text":"Next question. The next question.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"are wireless peripherals a waste of money? No, no, come on. Not a waste of money. I think yes, I think they're 100% a waste. Why? I think that depending. Well, first of all, it definitely depends on the peripheral. I think that wireless mouse is fine. Wireless keyboard, sure. But wireless audio drives me crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's wireless keyboard. Yeah, that's the same board. The most useless wireless. Yeah. Oh, well, just because I have like a hybrid setup that is also a catch setup. So it's really nice to be able to use wireless. I don't think most people need wireless keyboards. I just think that they can totally be used and it's fine. And they're not that much of a waste of money if you intend to move around and stuff. And a mouse, it's annoying when the cable catches on something, sure. But wireless audio just drives me nuts. Whether it's something cheap and it can't do, like if you've got a cheap headset, your audio is going to get degraded when it's enabling both the mic and the headphones. And a lot of people don't even realize that until they plug it in. If you're doing a Bluetooth headset. Yes. Oh, God, Windows is so stupid. And I know that is fair. 2.4 gigahertz is a lot better. But so I think Bluetooth is just 2.4 gigahertz. I hate names and tech. But I just when I'm especially if I'm sitting at a computer, the price of have wireless headphones is like doubles the price of it. I think we'd have to go peripheral by peripheral to really make it that it's worth it. Because I agree, keyboard, if you're not using like utilizing a hybrid setup, who cares? Headset, you're you're probably right. Like $100 wired headphones, pretty damn good. $100 wireless headset probably sucks. Where I would push back is like wireless nice are so much better. Like in terms of like not just snagging, but also weight. And like there's so many situations where like I would way rather have the freedom to just move. They are not expensive anymore. Like that we are way past the point of wireless stuff costing a premium. There is wired premium mice that cost way more than cheap wireless mice that aren't that different in performance. And you can get a baller ass $50 wireless gaming mouse these days. I think the biggest problem for me with wireless peripherals and why I don't like it is I will always forget the charge. And for me, that inconvenience is enough that it's never worth it to go with a wireless peripheral. I know there's obviously Logitech, the power play mat where you can charge your mouse. But then it's so small. Also, it's not even available in Canada. So I can't even get one if I want. Is it really not? No, it's not available in Canada. Those are like radio laws. Yeah. Yeah. So everyone who has one here, you've committed a crime. It also freaks me out that like our country refused it and that they're still selling it elsewhere. I'm like, is it a cancer machine? But that inconvenience of having to remember to charge something or even just swapping out a double A. It's one of those things that's so quick. Yes, but and I got to remember to buy double A batteries. I don't like batteries in my house. I plug everything in. The problem, your problem that you have with wireless peripherals is a skill issue. Yeah, I'm so used to plugging things in that that's not a real issue. For me, the only thing that runs out of batteries is wireless headsets. That's the one I forget to plug in. Mouse runs out every once every eight months. So it's like, I get to my computer and it's not plugged. It's I just charge and I go grab a jink and I come back and then I can play. For me, it's my PS5 controller. It dies on me all the time on my PC because I don't get a low battery warning. Also, it doesn't just like turn off. Yeah, it just turns off. Like on your PlayStation, it goes, oh, I haven't received an input. It automatically turns off. Your Windows is just like, you're Bluetooth, you're connected. Yeah. And so it just drains overnight. Windows sucks. Windows does suck. Actually, no, my controller will turn off. If I leave it, if I don't input inputs, it'll go to sleep. But I mean, it's still like when they're brand new, it's like maximum five hours of battery. It goes to sleep when your computer goes to sleep, usually. Oh, wow. No, no, no. The Xbox controllers only go to sleep. Oh, really? They go to sleep. But those work for 40 hours. Yeah, they do. They're great. They're great battery. I really like the lot about the DualSense, but I wish they made a DualSense light that dropped some of the features, kept the shape, and like some of the other features that last for 20 hours. I literally double the battery in it. I don't care about the extra weight. Yeah, me neither. Put double the battery life in it and just make it heavier. It's a good controller, but it's crazy. Like I have a little charging stand for my PS5 controllers because as soon as I'm done playing, it's going on there. But I shouldn't have to. No. I shouldn't have to freaking buy an accessory just so that my two-player controllers can remain charred. That's like a what, $50 accessory? Maybe like $30. OK, that's not too bad. I think we might still be split on this because I'm still saying it's not worth it for wireless peripherals. What about you guys? I think it's worth it. I think it's worth it. And you want to do this? What? No, because you said it's not worth it. I see. The question is. Oh, oh yeah, it's reversed. So I can do that. My bad. So, OK, but like we are saying all in this statement, it's all wireless or all wired? I would go all wired. The statement is, are wireless peripherals worth it? Are we talking? No, they're not worth it. Money-wise? Are they not? Can you read the read exactly? Are wireless peripherals a waste of money? Yes, they are. No, wireless peripherals introduce a lot of benefits and freedoms. They have their downsides and they should be known. I think they are worth the extra money. And you can run most of them wired anyway. Exactly. I was going to say the best case scenario for headphones is if you can get like if you think about like a lot more consumer headphones are doing this. Like your Sony XM5s have 3.5 millimeter out. So you can get wired latency free audio. You can get at high quality. The Odyssey Maxwells are a gaming headset where you can remove the microphone. And you can have wireless or you can plug in and get and get like low latency audio. And you can use them out with your phone. You can use them on the go. XM5s are like $500 though, right? Or like 300 bucks? Yeah. I could buy a pair of headphones. Are you walking around with the $200 wired headphones right now? No. I don't want to walk around the play. To be fair, I do walk around with AirPods. So I guess I got wireless peripherals. That's a fair point. Do our earbuds part of this conversation? I actually we're talking PC peripherals. I totally go back to wired earbuds if only because of if they fall out and you can't find them anymore because they go away. Again, they blame it on a skill issue. Okay. Okay. Next question. Interesting. Next question. The next question."}