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There we go, that's what you want to hear your producers say. I guess it's this button. Hey,

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so Dan, have we figured out how much of the YouTube cut gets cut off? Because I've noticed

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that with the not when show live streams, like if I start talking right away, that is not at the

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beginning of the video. And then I saw it on the fire truck intro last week. Like the beginning

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was not there in the VOD. Yeah, for when show. Well, no, it was that too. But also,

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I think the very beginning part was missing. I wonder how much. I'll chase that up next week.

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No, there was a bit like before that, isn't there? Let me see.

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Because there's your part. Yeah, my part's in here. No, no, there's, there's, yeah.

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Oh, you're right. Because I'm at the desk and then the thing goes on. Yeah, it's just completely

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not there. And I don't think that. Oh my God. Yeah, so it's a thing. When we go live on YouTube.

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Yeah. So I may be, I have no idea because so I think the YouTube audience thinks I haven't said

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what's everyone welcome to the WAN Show in years. Like I don't know how long it's been doing this.

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Uh, oh, Luke audio, please unmute Luke. They can't hear Luke.

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I don't think I was live on my side and I hear myself talking. I'm going to mute him just for

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fun. Sorry. Nice. Sorry. I didn't, I undid it. That was mean, but it wouldn't mean guy.

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Where's mine? There it is.

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Oh man.

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Got a great show for you today is apparently what Chewie's used to seeing on the YouTube vid.

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Yeah. Okay. So it's missing like the first five seconds.

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Welcome to the WAN Show is the first line. What's up everyone? Welcome to the WAN Show

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typically. We've got a great show lined up for you today. So I just like, I haven't done,

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I haven't done a greeting in like how long it's probably like a two second delay.

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So often there's a bit of a delay on my side on the YouTube studio.

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Okay. So should I be using the studio to tell if we're live then

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rather than the green checkmark in the dashboard?

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Probably. I mean, we can try that tonight. Sure. That does make sense because the green

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checkmark isn't, Hey, the other side is transmitting this. It's, we have formed a connection

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because you'll see it says connect streaming software to go live and then it'll freak out a

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bit and then the video will start. I do think this means that there will pretty much guaranteed

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be a millennial pause. A very short one, especially depending on how fast you react,

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but there'll be something because if you're waiting until you see it and then you're going,

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yeah, then that gap will exist. But that's what I always thought existed anyway. So I guess

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now we're just going back to it. But yeah, like we've, we've had some

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like build streams and stuff where we've scripted like punchy intros

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and the first part of it's just cut off and makes absolutely no sense. And I don't know how to

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the two that I've seen is you start with a timer on screen

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or you start talking about something unrelated. And then when you see it go live, you transition in.

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I will do testing. Yeah, I really don't love that. Should we do a timer?

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Yeah, I'll, um, I'll do some like test streams next week. Oh,

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oh my back. We don't have to do a timer that is as insane as the Nintendo one. Are you good?

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Yeah. Okay.

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Like the Nintendo Direct switch too, I think had like a, like a 45 minute timer or something.

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Okay. They cut it out.

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That makes sense. All right. Should we do this? Let's do this thing.

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Oh wait, it's not five yet. Should I wait till five? Your discretion.

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Discretion. I hardly know her. I'm not digging that.

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I usually enjoy that. That was pretty bad.

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I can't even give that one anything. I'm sorry. You already stretched your back, I guess.

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What? I think it's the joke was a stretch. Oh my God.

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This is going to be a rough show.

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Do you have a ding for that one? Oh my God.

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Yes, my son.

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At least they're getting better. I'll give it that.

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Mental breakdown, speed run. They're improving.

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You can hate it here all you want. Ninja man away. You can never leave.

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Wait. Ah, no one's home. You can never leave because you're not a tree.

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Is it getting more painful for me? I get carpal tunnel.

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This free shipping started at 150 or 100 site. So is both.

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We should get that fixed before we go live. Where does it say 100? Because I'm pretty sure it's 150. 150 is the only one I'm aware of.

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If you have a $50 item in your card already,

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it might say 100 more. Then it'll say like spend 100 more here.

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Oh yeah. That seems pretty clear. Good job, Conrad. Should be 150.

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Oh, I'm going to ask the team to change that wording. I love this.

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Free worldwide. Breaking news. Tariff, tariff, tariff, tariff, tariff, tariff, tariff.

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Have you seen it? No. Here, let me.

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Is it too new? Do you not have it? Whoa. Refresh your page.

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Okay. Which one's the full one control, I think?

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That. And then look at the bottom. Breaking news. Tariff, tariff, tariff, tariff, tariff.

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That's awesome. This is such a great banner.

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It's actually really good. Oh, okay. We've got the page live for you guys.

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That's what I was doing on your laptop.

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Wait, is that like an Artie Dave thing to change the wording of this, or does that have to go to Conrad?

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I wanted to say free worldwide shipping. I think that's Conrad.

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I'll message him. Cool. I mean, realistically, Conrad's probably watching the pre-show anyway.

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It's very possible. Oh, there he is. He's got it. Yeah. Get back to work, Conrad.

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I mean, but like actually though, because you want him to do something.

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That's true. It's during work hours too, although he is pretty flexible hours.

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Yep. Okay.

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Yeah. What do I have in my cart? That's something in my cart. Oh, I have the terminally online hoodie.

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Where does it say 100 though? Was it just that banner that confused the person?

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I don't know. Because the banner seems clear enough to me that I don't think we should change it

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personally. Okay. Cool.

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Okay. Because it says, yeah, it says more.

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I think it's weird. It's fine. And it's now updated to say worldwide.

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All right. That was fast. What a guy. He's fast. His fingers are fast. He has fast fingers.

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Steven animated and stuff. Let's go.

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Let's go. It's time for us to turn this lemon into

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lemon juice.

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Well, it's not going to be lemonade. It's going to be a year, sir.

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Would that just be like just no sugar? Is lemon juice just lemonade without sugar?

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No, I think you also dilute it. You dilute lemonade. Yeah.

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So no water, no sugar. It would just be lemon and water. Just squeeze the lemon.

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Yeah. With water, like water. Also some water, but not enough water.

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Diluted lemon. Yeah. Yeah. I'd drink some diluted lemon, I think.

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Would you? It's bad terrible for your teeth. That makes sense. Yeah. Like a liqueur.

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Memories of lemon. The quaw. Oh, we should go live. They squeeze the lemon near the sealed can.

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I'm resuming the selected now. But.

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But.

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What's up, everyone? Welcome to the WAN Show.

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We've got a great show lined up for you guys this week. We're going to be talking about, oh boy.

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Everything. And nothing.

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It's been a rough week. Yeah. Framework is pausing some US sales due to tariff uncertainty,

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and it's not just them. Razer has taken down pricing and pre-order pages for new blades.

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Other laptop vendors are doing all kinds of stuff. Nintendo has suspended pre-orders of the Switch 2 in the US and Canada.

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We're going to be talking a little bit about that. We're also going to be talking about how this is

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quite probably going to affect LTT Store as well,

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which is why we have a major beat the Shipstorm.

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Get it? The Shipstorm. Beat the Shipstorm sale event.

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I'm talking. I don't. Can you explain? Free shipping on all orders over $150 plus a never before seen deal

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on the MCM Essentials solution with our magnetic cable management

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for almost 50% off. So we've got lots of great stuff going on on the store this week.

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What are you talking about? That basically means you could get that another item

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and get the other item and free shipping both for free.

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If you think about it. Well, hopefully they won't think of that.

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Nice. What else we got this week? Uh, it turns out the XT was inside us all along.

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Apparently people are BIOS modding the 9070 and it's an interesting story.

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Also, events! Jayce2Sense is having a tech fair thing and we're maybe talking about whale land stuff?

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Yeah, events. Lots of events. Yeah.

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Chipstorm event. Yeah.

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The show is brought to you today by Vessie, Odu and AMD.

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Also our RAP partner Dbrand, our laptop partner Dell and our chair partner Secret Lab.

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Oh, should we get right into the situation this week?

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Sure. Framework, investment disclosure, has paused some US sales due to tariff uncertainty on Wednesday.

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Framework announced a temporary pause on US sales on some base framework laptop 13 models,

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specifically the Core Ultra 5 125H and Ryzen 5 7640U.

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Framework explained that even a 10% tariff would mean they are selling their lowest end

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SKUs at a loss. Framework also paused all pre-orders for the laptop 12,

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but have since unpaused all but the base models.

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And personally, I found this whole thing extremely interesting because we've been able to get

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over the last couple of weeks insight into the margin structures of these companies that we

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otherwise wouldn't have gotten. Yeah. Basically, I mean, when Logitech increased the price of that mouse, when Framework basically went,

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look, if we sell this thing, we're just going to be eating it on every unit we ship.

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It told us explicitly what the margins are on these products.

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And I got to say, I'm feeling a little validated because I've talked for years on this show for

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years about how one of the biggest problems for the tech industry is that there is no margin in it.

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I will admit, I knew that the margin on some components was really, really, really, really,

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really low. I knew that things like cases, fans, it gets a little bit...

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Power supplies. Power supply a little bit healthier.

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I thought laptops had more. The laptop industry is cutthroat.

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Apparently. Cutthroat is. I remember back when I worked at the best of buys, selling laptops and stuff like that.

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I heard they're the best. They gotta be. It's in the name.

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I remember seeing the cost because you could see the cost in your system.

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And it was always really close to the actual amount we were selling it for.

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But it was my understanding that through like... Spiffs.

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Spiffs, kickbacks, other various things, it made it a lot better.

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And we just didn't see that amount because we were allowed to show the customer the cost.

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So it was like the fact that we were allowed to do that means there's some play here somewhere.

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However, what I can tell you is that that invoice cost may have very well been

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fairly accurate. Yeah. And yeah, they're going to be making a few more points on the back end.

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But the tech industry is really, really tight.

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Speakers and headphones are another example of categories where there's margin.

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Yeah, I think it's like if AirPods alone were split off, they're bigger than like

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Nike or something. But like crazy. Like why do you think that your manager was pushing you so hard to attach a printer?

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Yeah. Yeah. Right? Because there was margin in pictures. Or insurance or software or whatever else.

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Or something for the bag. You could go and you could tell your super, I sold 100 computer systems today.

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They'd be like, get out. You know, look, they don't care.

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Did you move attachments? Did you move other things? Exactly, exactly.

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And it's not just framework on the laptop side.

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Razer has taken down pricing and pre-order pages for their new blades.

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HP, Dell and Lenovo have suspended shipments of notebooks and related products to the U.S.

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for at least two weeks. Nintendo, we talked about this last week, suspended pre-orders of the Switch 2 in the U.S.

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I think it was since then though. They have also, thanks a lot, suspended pre-orders of the Switch 2 in Canada.

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This is from, actually, I'm not sure who prepped this topic. But I feel like I've been spared in this situation.

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Oh yeah, because you weren't going to buy one at launch anyway. You're going to wait until Willow Video has them.

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So the Lord only knows when that'll happen now. This might actually help in a weird turn of events.

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This might help places like Willow. No, that could be true.

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Weird turn of events, but it might. Apparently, it is speculated, or I don't know if this is for sure,

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but apparently packaging for U.S. and Canada happens near Seattle.

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So that could explain, if they're going into Seattle before they come up to Canada,

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then that would explain why Canada would be impacted.

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Approximately a third of Switch 2 production is happening in Vietnam,

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and Nintendo has started routing most of those consoles to the U.S.

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to hopefully avoid the worst of the tariffs.

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Multiple automakers have also suspended shipments or orders to the U.S.

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and China, whose tariff on imports of U.S. goods is now 125%,

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so going the other way, says that there is no point in raising their tariffs further

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because there is no longer any market acceptance for U.S. goods exported to China.

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However, it is always worth noting that any statement from a Chinese official

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should probably be taken with a similar amount of salt

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to how salty Luke was before the show that I won WAN late today.

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Completely unfairly. He won WAN late today while being late.

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Well, at least. It genuinely makes no sense. It is not fair to have a contest where the decider of the contrast is on your payroll.

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I think that it is not fair to park your car in a handicapped parking stall.

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You seem perfectly able-bodied to me. I actually just was going so fast I didn't see the sign at all.

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Which is a separate problem. But you were still late! You were still late.

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I'm fine, not winning. You should also lose.

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It is not about my victory, it is about your loss.

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The China Semiconductor Industry Association published an urgent update today

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clarifying how the country of origin of semiconductor products is determined.

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For both packaged and unpackaged semiconductor products,

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the location where the wafer was processed is deemed to be the country of origin.

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And because China deems Taiwan to be part of its territory,

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oh, okay, hold on.

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That means that chips fabricated by TSMC, Micron, and other Taiwanese chip makers

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will be exempt from the 125% duty imposed on US products.

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Okay, I thought this was working against them when I first read it, but actually they're using the technicality of, oh yeah, Taiwan is definitely us

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to justify not having to pay tariffs on TSMC fabricated goods.

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Sure, China. I mean, that's really smart.

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I guess. And the US tariffing Taiwan is like incredibly stupid.

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By that logic, actually, I mean, shouldn't the US basically say,

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well, since Canada is our 51st state anyway, there's no point in tariffing anything from Canada.

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No, but the whole goal- Because neither of them have annexed either of those countries yet.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. America's whole goal is continuing Canada's economic ruin

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so that they can try to financially take us away. They do understand that Canadians are not going to do that, right?

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Yeah. We're not just going to be like, oh yeah, economic victory, sieve, whatever.

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I wonder, I wonder, you know, okay, I don't even know if I want to go into this.

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No, I'll bring it up. You know how sieve seven, I don't know if you've heard any news about sieve seven,

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but do you know how sieve seven? I heard it kind of flopped and then the first update was supposed to make it a lot better.

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That's all I know. This is how sieve works every single time, to be fair.

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This time, I'll throw this out there. I don't know if it's fixable. There are core things about the game that I actually just really don't like.

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And I don't think they can fix. But one of the things like the Aztecs, the Aztecs, one of the problems is you couldn't

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stay them if you chose them. You're, you're, no.

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So if you start every era, if you're like Persians, then you just like become

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every era. It changes wherever Persia became. But it could become hold on, hold on, hold on Iran.

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I think so. Okay. Or if like, like, so you'll be the Ottomans at some point and or you'll be the Greeks

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and you just turn into Romans or whatever changes because you just get and any leader

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can lead any civilization. So you could be like Caesar.

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So you could be Gandhi leading like the Australians or whatever.

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Sure. I, I personally do not like it.

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I don't like it. But anyways. No, you should get, you know, you should get to be like freaking.

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I like one leader, one sieve the whole way through. It's been that way the whole time.

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I understand they're trying to change things up. Sieve has been very similar for many years.

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I, I, I understand the desire. Yeah.

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Already saying the more I play sieve seven, the less I like it. And that was true.

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I only played one full campaign and that was true for me the whole way through the campaign.

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I liked it less and less and less and less and less the whole time. So tell me that actually, wait, did I even, I don't think I finished.

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You say sieves been really similar for a long time. That's funny.

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You bring that up because we actually shot a video earlier this week of younger people

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reacting to the games that were formative for me and one of the games.

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And I kind of picked not just games that I played a lot or enjoyed a lot,

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but ones that marked significant milestones for me. So I have the first one that I ever upgraded my computer for.

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I had the first one I ever bought a special peripheral to play. Cool. I have the first one I ever bought a tower upgrade for and it was civilization to test of time.

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And the reason was that the emissaries were 3d rendered.

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Yeah. So until then I only ever had software rendering.

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I only ever played games that required software rendering. All of a sudden I needed a direct X six or something like a direct X accelerator and

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at least eight megabytes of VRAM or whatever the requirements for 16 megs, something like that.

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And I don't think spoiler for the video, I don't think that sieve to got a fair shake

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because they only had like a few minutes to try each game. We weren't going to give them like six hours to familiarize themselves with civilization to.

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But I do wonder if you as a sieve veteran could go back and play something like sieve to and

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legitimately enjoy it still. Okay. I think yes, because and my reason for this was a long time ago.

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I don't know if you remember this, but I did a stream for one of my birthdays where

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it's a charity stream and I played one game for an hour for every year that I had been alive.

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So I played one game for an hour that was released in 1990 and then I played one game

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for an hour that was released in 1991. I went all the way through to current year and in that I played sieve one and in the hour

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I took over all of Europe and Asia.

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And I hadn't touched that game since I was like a wee lad.

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That's pretty cool. So I think I could still figure it out.

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Would you enjoy it though? I enjoy my question.

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Did you ever play sieve two? Because I never played sieve one.

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I'm fairly certain I did, but I haven't since it would have been like the current sieve.

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It's been a long time. I tried to go back and play civilization one,

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having played sieve two as my first sieve and I found it to just be utterly lacking in

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depth creature comforts that I needed.

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Sieve two felt like going from warcraft one to warcraft two.

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Like it was just a better game in every possible way.

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I never actually got into another one though.

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And I know some of the other ones are really, really great,

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but I just, I became an anno boy or more realistically warcraft three after that.

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That was fantastic. Artie and I are extremely agreed on this.

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Sieve five was the best one. Sieve six, I do think aged very well.

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It got better. The expansions are really good and that type of stuff,

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but I still think sieve five was kind of peak. But anyways, sieve six, I will give it as much as I didn't like it as much as sieve five.

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It had a fantastic UI. The UI UX of sieve six was clean.

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It felt good. It was a good experience. Sieve seven, there was a huge problem because the UI was really bad.

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You know who pushed over 300 bug fixes for sieve for sieve six?

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Again, sieve six's UI was fantastic. You know who pushed over 300 bug fixes for sieve six?

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Him?

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Luigi Mangione. What?

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The guy who assassinated the guy? I'm not kidding.

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Most based.

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He was really good at sieve UI.

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It was very good. It's probably the best. I love sieve five.

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So six's UI was probably the best one they ever pushed. Sorry, he worked for them at that time?

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Yeah. Oh, okay. I thought you meant like he was a super player.

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No, I don't think so. You mean like actually pushed bug fixes? Like actually committed?

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Over 300, yeah. Okay. I thought you meant like reported. So no, he actually like.

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He fixed them. He made it good. He made it really good.

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So you're saying that you appreciate the work of Luigi Mangione?

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Yeah, he did great stuff for sieve.

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So sieve six was fantastic. And by sieve, you mean civilization.

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But like he did really good things for sieve.

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Video game or civilization or you know what? His improvements to the civilization was really good.

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Allegiance in chat. Fix your wording.

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He allegedly did it right, right, right. Allegedly. How did we get on this topic again?

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China does not rule out other forms of retaliation against the US.

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Announcing that they are reducing the number of Hollywood films permitted to release and restricting import and export

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rights for a number of US companies.

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Our discussion question here is move directly to next topic.

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Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. As a technically partial owner of framework,

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how do you feel about the impact on frameworks business

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and a frameworks future based on this? I know that you said the only thing that would cause you to pull out

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was a change in their like, I don't know what I would call it, ideology principles, sure.

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This doesn't feel like that at all. Oh yeah, no.

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But how do you feel as a partial owner about the decision,

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the direction, their margin?

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I got to be honest with you and I'm sorry, Narav.

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I am way more concerned about my own margin and my own store right now.

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A framework is cool and all that literally every person that I've met there,

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from CEO down, seems like awesome, legitimately awesome.

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I was super impressed the first time that I met a broader group of the team there

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because literally everyone I spoke to just so quick, so focused on what they're doing,

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they just seem like a super focused company. They have a great culture as far as I can tell from basically the outside.

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But they aren't my company. And I'm rooting for their mission.

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I'm super excited for their mission. But I think that they have already opened a lot of eyes

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and there's a lot of momentum. So in terms of my goal of what I was trying to achieve with the investment,

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I think I've gotten a lot out of it already. I don't think this is going to kill them either.

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No. I think this is a storm.

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It's a little storm and I think they're going to weather it. It kind of helps. This is a storm that everyone's going through.

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And realistically, it's not that I don't empathize.

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I 100% empathize. But I've got to focus on keeping my ship upright right now.

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This might be, I think it would be very reasonable for someone to say

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that this is really stupid for me to bring up.

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This is really stupid of you to bring up. Nice, cool.

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I think it's interesting that software is dodging all of this.

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Software is, oh. Because I'm wondering when that is going to flip

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because a lot of America's exports is software.

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Right. And nobody's doing that right now.

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Interesting. Yeah, it's only physical goods. If you want to hurt them,

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don't make that many physical goods that they export out. That's why they have all these trade deficits with these countries.

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Yeah, I probably just wouldn't have brought it up. I don't know, dude.

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But it's just really interesting. Nah, EU is on that.

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Okay, so somebody's working. Oh, EU's on it. Okay. So like that's going to become part of the equation.

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And then Flowplane is. Avon Fox says, yeah, the US has a huge surplus in entertainment media as well.

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So China's already on that, allowing fewer. I mean, fewer films in China.

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They were already super restrictive, not to mention being super restrictive in terms of the content.

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I mean, when was the last time that we had like,

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oh man, what are there? When was the last time we had a triad as a bad guy in a Hollywood film?

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It's been a hot minute. Yeah, yeah. A little bit. I feel like it's like 90s, 80s.

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Because basically, if you have like any Chinese funding, from what I understand,

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if you have like any Chinese funding in your film, which they have invested extremely heavily in,

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you pretty much have to follow China's censorship rules

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in America, which is, yeah.

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But that's like control of the import.

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That's not even a tariff.

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But yeah, I mean, they already blocked so much US media anyway.

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The digital landscape is going to get really weird if that happens, because we've never had to deal with this anywhere.

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It's been full free market forever.

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I mean, no, there are. As far as tariffs are concerned.

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A lot of tariffs in the world as it is. No, for digital stuff.

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Oh, digital. Yeah, yeah. No, that's a fair point.

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Back to making sure that our own ship is doing okay.

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Yeah. We've got a pretty exciting sale event going on right now.

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Love the graphic. I'm going to get real inside baseball for you guys here.

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Basically, we have a lot of inventory that we had big plans for,

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for Lime Day, so like upcoming promos.

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Big plans for just, you know, having in stock so that we have things in stock on our store.

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As we said last week, we're putting in place every mitigation that we can to shield our customers from as many price increases as we can.

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But with that said, there will be some price increases in areas

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where we simply cannot absorb any potential tariffs in our costs.

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We don't know exactly what all of those costs will be,

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because the whole situation is extremely fluid.

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So what we're doing right now is before May the 2nd, when theoretically,

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if everything goes according to what has currently been communicated,

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costs for especially our US customers are going to go way up on our items,

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is we are launching our Shipstorm sale.

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We are doing free shipping, and this is not just for America, okay?

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Free shipping on all orders worldwide, over $150 on LTT Store.

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This is a pretty high-cost promo for us guys, so click that shop now,

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and please make sure to add at least one thing

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other than the MCM Essentials Solution Bundle. This is the lowest price we've ever done on this.

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This is our headline deal to kick off this sale event.

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It's $80 for, this is a really, really nice magnetic cable management kit,

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so you can do a power bar, you can do a couple power bricks, whole bunch of zip ties, lots of cables.

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We've even got one of the big boys in there, lots of metal plates for mounting them, cable ties.

00:31:21.040 --> 00:31:25.360
Basically, everything you need to do to make your setup look like this.

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Absolutely gorgeous, and yeah, while you're at it,

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grab a commuter backpack, all right? Grab a precision multi-bit screwdriver and bit set.

00:31:35.120 --> 00:31:40.560
Grab a screwdriver, stubby screwdriver, just... Oh, scribe driver, great time to pick up a scribe driver.

00:31:40.560 --> 00:31:44.640
So throw together a cart, $150 free shipping.

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Shout out Conrad for this awesome little animation at the top.

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Yeah, the bar thing is really nice, actually. Show us how much you got to fill up your bar.

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That's sweet. Things are going to be tight. I don't know what kind of promos we're going to be able to

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afford to do over the next little bit. So now's a great time to get an order in.

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We're going to get everything shipped out before the second.

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And who knows? Maybe none of the tariffs will happen. I don't know.

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I don't know what's happening. But I do know that we want to get out ahead of it and get you guys hooked up.

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Garrett H. says, make LTT Store Canadian dollars.

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We will be launching a Canadian dollar store at some point in the near future.

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More work than you'd expect. Don't expect like one-to-one pricing.

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If something was 99 US dollars on the US store, it's not going to be 99 Canadian dollars.

00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:38.960
That is like literally not how it works. But we will have a Canadian pricing store.

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We are working on all kinds of mitigations as much as we can, as fast as we can.

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We're doing our best, guys. Our dollar is getting better.

00:32:49.280 --> 00:32:54.480
Yeah, that is, oh my God, another basis point today.

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Yeah. I don't remember the last time it moved this fast.

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Actually, I do remember the last time it moved this fast because it was the 2008 financial crisis.

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And I was working in product management at NCIX. So I remember exactly.

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Dude, we used to place orders for product and literally have no idea what our retail price

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was going to be because back to our conversation earlier about extremely thin margins in the

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computer industry, for commodities like hard drives, it was a regular occurrence for NCIX

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to be making maybe two to three percent by the time you factored in credit card or any

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other processing fees, any labor or salespeople commissions associated with selling the product.

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Like we were selling them at six, seven points gross.

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But you have costs associated with bringing these things in, putting labels on them,

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stacking them on shelves, like there's costs, right? And so functionally speaking, we basically didn't make a profit on them.

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So if you had a two percent, three percent shifting forex in between when you place the

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order and when you got it, you could literally put your price on the site based on your order.

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And then by the time you actually get it and ship it, you're losing money. And making matters even worse, so much of our product was on net terms.

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So it wasn't just the delay from shipment to receiving.

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It was actually the delay sometimes from when we placed the order to 30 days after

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we received the order when we would finally know how much we were paying for the product.

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So you could bring in a talented GPUs, sell them for some price that you thought was profitable

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by five percent, and then it turns out you actually sold them for a one percent loss, gross,

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because the currency was all over the place.

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It was madness. Dude, it was madness.

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And when it swung the other way, obviously you were happy. But I mean, we would pull moves all the time.

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Like we would try to hedge, right? Like we'd try to be like, hey, Kim, oh, sorry, I didn't see your bill.

00:34:51.120 --> 00:34:56.880
Oh, we'll get to it right away. And we'd try to push things off a week, hoping that the currency would recover a little bit.

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To be clear, I didn't do that. I was not involved in that, but I heard through the grapevine,

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because I'd go to place another order. I'd be like, yeah, can I get another order? And they're like, no.

00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:09.600
I remember you kind of like raging about this back when we worked there.

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That was a separate issue. That was when they were running out of money. This was when we had money, but we just were deciding not to spend it

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on the things that we had already gotten into our warehouse and sold to customers.

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It was a whole thing. Got it. Oh, man.

00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:30.320
Yeah. Anyways, is there a topic that isn't about the economy?

00:35:31.040 --> 00:35:35.120
No, no, no. We're moving right into our next topic, which is more of a discussion.

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There's been a lot of conversation this week about moving electronics manufacturing back

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to the US, whether that's possible, and if it is, what that would look like.

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One phone company, Purism, says that their $800 phone will become $2,000 when made locally.

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In general, this is not related to Purism directly, materials would need to be sourced

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and imported or mined and refined at home.

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For instance, titanium, not found in America, and lithium, lots found in America,

00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:14.880
but only one active mine. That's a really interesting part of the conversation that I think some folks are overlooking.

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The time delay of getting more mines up and stuff. Well, not just that.

00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:24.400
Sorry. Yes, that, but also an element of this that, pun intended, that I think is fascinating,

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is the number of people that look at the cost breakdown of something like an iPhone or a

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Purism phone or whatever it is, and they go, okay, well, the labor cost for it was X in Mexico

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or in China or Vietnam or whatever. And it's X times whatever multiplier in America.

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So realistically, and we've seen this argument where I think it was McDonald's,

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or someone was like complaining that if they increased the minimum wage by some amount,

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that it would dramatically increase their prices, but it turned out it didn't.

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Well, yeah, because the whole Denmark thing, but anyway. But here's the thing. Here's the thing, right?

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Because at the end of the day, everything, not just the assembly, everything is impacted.

00:37:08.080 --> 00:37:13.520
It is ultimately labor, right? A hunk of lithium, the price you pay for it, well.

00:37:13.520 --> 00:37:17.120
It's got to come from somewhere. You didn't pay the ground you took it out of.

00:37:17.120 --> 00:37:25.680
You paid the people who extracted it. So if you actually were to, so these comparisons people are making are actually really apples

00:37:25.680 --> 00:37:32.080
to oranges because they're looking at the sourcing of these raw materials that are being

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done by people who are being paid far less than Western wages, regardless of whether they're

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ethically sourced or whatever. It's still going to be a lot less than a Western wage.

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So the calculations and terrorism may be doing the math, right?

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I'm actually not sure, but I see comparisons that people are making that are like,

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oh, this won't be that big of a deal. Remember when McDonald's complained that the labor cost going up?

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Well, that's because all of their raw materials being produced by Western labor costs or whatever,

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that was already factored in, whereas here they're not.

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Now, most rare earth metals are mined in America, but supply of these may not be enough to meet

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demand, at least not immediately. So new manufacturing sites would need to be built.

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A lot is manufactured in America already, but some companies have overseas manufacturing

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to supplement demand. For example, New Haven Display manufactures custom OLED screens in Illinois,

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but they also have manufacturing over in China.

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Actually, I'm sorry, I'm going to totally go off in a different direction for saying,

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do you see Mr. Beast's comment about it? Oh, yeah.

00:38:35.200 --> 00:38:40.640
He was pretty upset because he was saying his Feastables bars are manufactured in the US,

00:38:41.520 --> 00:38:46.880
but the materials are coming from, he apparently, and look, this is all just based on his tweet.

00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:53.520
Yeah, how much like cocoa comes from the States? He says he's working really hard to get like ethically sourced cocoa or whatever,

00:38:53.520 --> 00:38:59.040
but it's not from America. So if he gets tariffed on those imports, all of a sudden the whole business model

00:38:59.040 --> 00:39:04.720
makes no sense. And he's like, well, that could impact American jobs. Did anyone kind of, did anyone do that math?

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Probably not. There's a lot of stuff like that.

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There's mattress companies, and they have to get Dunlop latex.

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Like, I don't think any of that exists in the States. I could be wrong, but I don't think any of it does.

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But I believe they manufacture the mattresses up here.

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I don't know what specific brand, but there's like interesting component stuff where it's

00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:36.960
like, yeah, not everything grows or exists in specifically the United States.

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New supply lines will need to be implemented. Some manufacturing projects take so many resources and people and time

00:39:44.640 --> 00:39:48.560
that they essentially create small towns. I actually had never heard of this.

00:39:48.560 --> 00:39:51.920
One of Apple's biggest final assembly test and pack out centers is in,

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and I'm going to butcher this. I'm sorry, Zhengzhou.

00:39:55.200 --> 00:39:58.880
Anyway, it's apparently called iPhone, is kind of referred to as iPhone city.

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And the doc points out millions are employed in China by Apple alone.

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New truck and train routes will need to be figured out since materials and goods will

00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:12.320
have to move from one location to another. Still, this is going to, this is going to take some time.

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And this may be, this may be a hot take, depending on the audience that I'm talking to.

00:40:17.200 --> 00:40:22.560
But overall, I totally get what the US is doing.

00:40:24.080 --> 00:40:31.760
It is actually a terrible, terrible plan to have critical supplies completely owned,

00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:36.240
operated and controlled by a country that you are essentially locked in a cold war.

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Adversarial with, yeah. Yeah, I get it.

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I don't think there's a way to go about solving it. I'm not taking a position on that.

00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:49.440
But yeah, I get that for sure. That wouldn't be very Canadian of me. Yeah, especially if it's like planes, boats, stuff like that.

00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:55.760
100% and it's everything. It's microprocessors, it's AI, it's critical minerals, it's everything, right?

00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:58.560
There's like practically no ship manufacturing in the States anymore.

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It's like, yeah, that's knowing how America feels about their boats.

00:41:03.520 --> 00:41:11.760
So that's maybe not a good thing. So that's a really interesting dynamic in all of this for me, is I'm looking at

00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:19.120
what they're trying to accomplish, which is some freaking independence, some self-sufficiency.

00:41:19.120 --> 00:41:26.160
I mean, they were independent a long time ago, but some self-sufficiency in a world where,

00:41:26.160 --> 00:41:33.760
let's be honest, China has been engaged in economic warfare for as long as I can remember

00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:40.800
in my adult life. Absolutely. I mean, look no further than what they're doing to attempt to destroy the automotive industry

00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:44.880
in literally every other developed nation right now. I mean, they do this in a ton of ways too.

00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:48.880
It's not just the automotive industry. They do this in lots and lots of ways.

00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:54.880
So like waking up and finally playing ball totally makes sense to me.

00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:58.720
Totally makes sense. Again, I just don't necessarily think this is the way to do it.

00:41:58.720 --> 00:42:04.560
And cleaving every single other country that exists and some of your own military bases and stuff

00:42:04.560 --> 00:42:13.360
is maybe not the way to go about it. So here's the thing though, is that if you, well, okay, no, I'm not going to try to explain

00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:20.400
why they did that. There are some potentially valid reasons why they cast such a wide net in order to prevent,

00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:23.600
pass through shipping, tariff avoidance. Whole thing.

00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:30.320
G. Coons in Floatplane chat says, at Linus, any suggestions on how to do it better?

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And I think you basically nailed the curse that I live with.

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I am smart enough to recognize the situation for what it is, but I am not smart enough to solve it.

00:42:44.080 --> 00:42:50.880
Well, you're not like an economic. And I'm not shameless enough to pretend that I know how to solve it and to offer you easy answers.

00:42:51.440 --> 00:43:03.200
So I basically kind of sit here as helpless as anyone else while everything happens around me.

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I honestly, some days envy the people who just don't really seem to understand some of the negative

00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:24.960
impacts of this and what they will potentially be because it seems like they seem happier.

00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:30.560
It's interesting up here too, because there's some sentiment of like, oh, like we can still get

00:43:31.520 --> 00:43:37.360
cheaper stuff, right? Like the switch is probably not going to be exceptionally expensive up here unless they just

00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.800
mirror the price, which happens sometimes. Which they could very little do.

00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:47.360
It's decently common that Canadian pricing is just, you know, dollar conversion to US pricing.

00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:51.280
Yep. But these are, this is unprecedented in my lifetime.

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Yeah. So how everyone's going to handle it could be all over the map.

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I mean, you never know. Nintendo tomorrow could say, hey, you know, we actually have enough switches to start shipping

00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:09.520
these right now. We're going to keep them software locked until, you know, after the official launch date that

00:44:09.520 --> 00:44:18.480
we announced or whatever. But yeah, you know, we took a page out of, out of LTT stores book and we were like,

00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:22.560
emergency sale, everyone buy your switches now and then we'll just leave them software locked

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until they probably won't. There's no way Nintendo would do that, but they could conceivably.

00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:33.360
They could conceivably do that. I mean, they've been manufacturing switch twos for months now.

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If the rumors are anything to go by. By the way, just want to remind you guys now is the time to pick up some pre-tariff,

00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:47.040
pre-tariff LTT Store merchandise free worldwide shipping on orders over $150.

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You're going to hear me talk about this a fair bit today because we need to move some inventory.

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Go, go, go. I thought it was kind of funny. I was reading something the other day.

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I forget a lot of the details because we're skimming it, but Canada and Japan are in talks

00:45:00.560 --> 00:45:07.760
about like working together for market stability. And I was like, man, like two of the like, it's cool.

00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:11.280
That's a good thing. We should probably do that kind of sucks. And it's like two of the worst.

00:45:12.640 --> 00:45:18.480
Like what is it? G20, whatever economies right now. We're like, yeah, let's try to not be so bad together.

00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:20.000
It's like, oh man, all right.

00:45:22.160 --> 00:45:27.200
Cool, man. Yeah, let's, let's figure it out. Well, we've got our overpriced housing crisis.

00:45:27.200 --> 00:45:30.720
They have their worthless countryside, can't give them away housing crisis.

00:45:31.520 --> 00:45:36.960
We've got our sort of, we had no idea what we were doing with immigration crisis.

00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:40.880
They've got their, well, we don't have immigration crisis.

00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:44.480
We just entirely forgot that our birth rate sucks too.

00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:50.240
Oh yeah. I don't know how we solved that one. We sort of just forgot that GDP per capita is supposed to go up.

00:45:50.240 --> 00:45:53.680
We just decided like, nah, we'll just leave it where it is. We didn't force it with, with capita.

00:45:53.680 --> 00:46:00.000
Yeah. Yeah. What does that have more? All capita all day. Let's have more. Don't bother building, don't bother building more houses in spite of the fact

00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:03.040
that we're a global leader in supply of softwood lumber. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:03.040 --> 00:46:06.240
Let's not use any of it here. No, no, no, no. That all has to go away.

00:46:06.240 --> 00:46:09.440
That all has to go away by default. It has to go away.

00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:10.000
It can't stay.

00:46:16.720 --> 00:46:27.200
Yeah, we have our own problems. If that was ever unclear, whenever we are pointing out issues in other countries,

00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:34.400
that is not because we are not really big ones actually acutely aware of the problems

00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:39.200
that we have here in Canada. When your GDP per capita goes up by 0.5% over the course of 10 years,

00:46:41.120 --> 00:46:46.640
you got some things to work out. Cobbie says, please do the all good news WAN Show soon.

00:46:46.640 --> 00:46:49.680
Please. I'm tired, man. We've tried multiple times.

00:46:49.680 --> 00:46:54.240
We genuinely really tried multiple times. Hey, I got some good news for you.

00:46:54.240 --> 00:47:02.080
On Elton's store right now, you get free worldwide shipping on any order over $150.

00:47:02.080 --> 00:47:06.560
We've got an amazing promo running on our magnetic cable management essential solution.

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I don't forget you can pick up the commuter backpack. I don't know if the price is going to go up for this.

00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:14.000
It might, it might not. I don't know if the prices could go up. They could stay the same.

00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:19.840
Our mouse pads are the same price no matter what size they are. Same for our water bottles.

00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:26.480
Oh, you can get a framework embroidered hoodie. I promise you that an all over embroidered hoodie is going to cost a lot more than $150

00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:29.040
if it's made in the USA. Go, go, go.

00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:37.840
All right. What else we got today? Dan, what are we supposed to be doing? Oh, let's move maybe into some merch messages.

00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:45.760
Sure. Sure. Let's do that. If you're not familiar, the way to leave a merch message and interact with the show

00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:50.720
is to go to lttstore.com and check out our free worldwide shipping on orders over $150.

00:47:50.720 --> 00:47:55.760
Okay. Add an item to your cart and you'll see the merch message field pop up.

00:47:55.760 --> 00:48:02.320
You go ahead and populate that. It'll go to producer Dan who will do something with it today.

00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:06.480
Realistically, there's going to be a lot of them. So we'll get to as many of them as we can.

00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:11.760
Or Dan will reply to them himself and his fingers will get arthritis,

00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:16.560
or he will forward it to someone internally, get an answer for you. Whatever the case may be, Dan will take care of it.

00:48:16.560 --> 00:48:20.160
And some of them will be curated for me and Luke to address.

00:48:20.160 --> 00:48:23.840
Dan, go ahead and show them how that works. Absolutely.

00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:29.520
So the first one I've got for you here. Do you think the Switch 2 is a unique position because it still has exclusives,

00:48:29.520 --> 00:48:34.240
not on other platforms, while most AAA games are cross-play compatible?

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Or would that cause a decline for Nintendo? Dude, I think Nintendo, by sticking to making, keeping a console a console,

00:48:43.200 --> 00:48:48.240
has actually crushed it. There's two companies selling closed-down computers,

00:48:48.240 --> 00:48:56.000
and there's one company selling a console. Nintendo seems to be the only horse left in the console race.

00:48:56.000 --> 00:49:01.920
And to be clear, I'm not saying that I disagree with Microsoft's move

00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:06.720
to make the Xbox and the PC a more cohesive ecosystem.

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In fact, I think they could do more to make them more value-added to each other.

00:49:13.200 --> 00:49:19.920
Like, we're owning a PC. Right now, if you own a decent PC, I can't think of any good reason to have an Xbox.

00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:24.080
I want to want the Xbox app on my computer.

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Oh, dude. And right now, I super don't. All it does is kind of get in my way when I'm trying to do something.

00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:35.280
Super don't. And maybe part of that is just because I've already solved all the problems

00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:39.920
that the Xbox app would solve for me, because I'm like old school.

00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:43.680
Like, maybe if I was a young kid who came from Xbox and got a PC,

00:49:43.680 --> 00:49:46.960
I'd be like, oh, yeah, Xbox app. That's how I screen record. That's how I do that.

00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:50.720
Whereas I'll just open OBS. So maybe that's part of it. But also, I just...

00:49:51.680 --> 00:49:55.520
There's certain default behaviors that just don't make any sense to me.

00:49:55.520 --> 00:49:58.960
Like, the fact that I press the Xbox button on my controller

00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:03.840
when I'm in Steam Big Picture and by default, Microsoft puts their Xbox overlay in front of...

00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:07.840
I'm using fucking Steam right now. I am not using Xbox app right now.

00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:13.920
I get why you want the Xbox button to do Xbox things, but then you got to work with partners like Valve to make sure that

00:50:14.720 --> 00:50:18.720
the Xbox button doesn't do really important things in Steam as well.

00:50:18.720 --> 00:50:22.400
Right? Like, it's just... It's not cohesive. And I don't...

00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:26.080
Again, I don't have the solutions. Yeah, me neither.

00:50:26.080 --> 00:50:34.800
But I definitely can identify the problems. You know, it's not as bad as like the Vista era games for Windows Live trash.

00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:41.360
It's not as bad as that. But you still have like, you know, Forza Horizon 5.

00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:45.440
It was a great game. Practically impossible to play with your friends

00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.600
because trying to do the Microsoft version of friends stuff

00:50:49.600 --> 00:50:54.720
was just an absolute nightmare. The one that I feel will be left out in the cold either way.

00:50:54.720 --> 00:50:59.920
Now that Microsoft has quadrupled down on functionally just being a game publisher,

00:50:59.920 --> 00:51:03.920
game developer, behemoth, is Sony.

00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:09.680
Because I don't really understand what the identity of the PlayStation is going to be

00:51:09.680 --> 00:51:13.680
when it's just, functionally speaking, a timed exclusive box.

00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:21.200
Right? Like, it's a hardware access key for timed exclusives, as far as I can tell.

00:51:22.080 --> 00:51:26.800
The DualSense controller is outstanding and works best on PlayStation.

00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:28.000
So that's something.

00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:36.880
What else are they doing? And to be clear, I think they have, I don't think there's really any debate

00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:40.960
that they won this generation between them and Microsoft.

00:51:41.520 --> 00:51:45.920
Right? Like at the Xbox series. Like, they won the battle.

00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:52.880
Man, I do honestly think that a significant part of Microsoft's challenges with Xbox

00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:57.040
come down to the confusing naming scheme. Oh, I agree.

00:51:57.040 --> 00:52:00.080
Like, dude, we saw what happened to the Wii U, right?

00:52:00.080 --> 00:52:03.680
And Microsoft saw that and was like, let's go even worse.

00:52:03.680 --> 00:52:07.840
I'm not 100% confident of what the current one is.

00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:13.600
It's the Xbox Series X. Yeah, I thought so. So that replaced the Xbox One X.

00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.920
And also, there's a Series S that replaced the Xbox One S.

00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:20.640
And before that was the Xbox... Oh crap.

00:52:21.600 --> 00:52:24.720
One? Oh shoot, was there a One X?

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Crap, uh-oh. I think there was a One X. Yeah, one. Yeah, that's right. This is the problem.

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And then before that was the 360, and then before that was...

00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:35.920
But the original Xbox and the Xbox 360 were great names.

00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:38.160
I disagree. I like 360.

00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:42.640
Remember all the speculation that the next one would be 720? Yeah.

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Um, even that would have been better than what we have now.

00:52:47.040 --> 00:52:50.320
But it should have just been Xbox Two, period. I'm sorry.

00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:53.120
I can't get behind... They could have even pulled...

00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:58.960
What's their nuts? Who did this? I forget. Someone recently on the phone side, I think...

00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:03.120
Was it Samsung or something? I can't remember. But one of them basically like, or maybe it was Apple,

00:53:03.120 --> 00:53:06.480
that like skipped a number or something so that they could...

00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:10.400
So that they could kind of realign things with, you know, years or something like that.

00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:13.600
I forget. Someone did this. Didn't they do that when they went to the X iPhone X? But I could see...

00:53:13.600 --> 00:53:19.440
Like, I could see Microsoft just skipping two and going straight to three so that it's clear that the Xbox Three

00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:25.920
competes against the PlayStation Three. So they could kind of get realigned, but...

00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:30.160
I think they could have done that. I think they could have done that with the 360 naming

00:53:30.160 --> 00:53:34.720
and then gone to like 460, 560, whatever. And just had it not been based on the circle.

00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:40.640
So I think it was called 360 because of the circle. Sure, but they could have done Xbox Infinity and done two circles.

00:53:40.640 --> 00:53:44.080
They could have done freaking anything other than one.

00:53:44.080 --> 00:53:47.600
Yeah. One was terrible. One X was terrible. Series X was terrible.

00:53:47.600 --> 00:53:51.200
It's all been terrible. 360, I definitely agree is deba...

00:53:51.200 --> 00:53:54.240
I liked it, but it's very debatable. I can understand someone not liking it.

00:53:54.240 --> 00:53:59.360
Beyond there, it's just trash. And it's a funny thing because I don't...

00:54:00.640 --> 00:54:06.560
I don't know any living, breathing, like through their nose,

00:54:06.560 --> 00:54:10.400
not like through their mouth. Like I don't know any non...

00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:14.080
Actually, no. I don't know any even remotely functional human

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capable of producing words that thinks that the Xbox naming scheme is good.

00:54:20.240 --> 00:54:22.160
So who are the... Who is driving this?

00:54:23.680 --> 00:54:27.760
I actually want to like interview them. Middle managers.

00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:32.800
No, they can't be. It can't be because middle managers would take the safe route.

00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:35.600
Only executives can do something that fucking stupid.

00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:42.160
Middle managers have to get buy-in. We should get Phil Spencer.

00:54:42.160 --> 00:54:47.440
He would never, but we should get Phil Spencer to join my show and just be like, what's going on?

00:54:48.240 --> 00:54:53.120
I'm sure he's been asked this a thousand times. You're wanting to get more and more into the PC space

00:54:53.120 --> 00:54:56.720
and make the Xbox ecosystem a big thing. You're trying to partner with handhelds.

00:54:56.720 --> 00:55:00.560
You're trying to do stuff like that. That's our realm. If you want buy-in with this community,

00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:04.560
come here. Come on our show. Talk to us. Yeah, talk to the community.

00:55:04.560 --> 00:55:07.840
Yeah, because we don't understand. So if you can make us understand,

00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:11.680
you're going to have a huge win. Come join the show.

00:55:11.680 --> 00:55:12.240
Talk to us.

00:55:15.120 --> 00:55:17.920
He's not going to talk to us. He never will. He never will.

00:55:19.120 --> 00:55:22.480
What was the question? But seriously, I think it's reasonable.

00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:27.360
Oh, hold on. I wanted to go somewhere else with that. He won't, but I think it would be reasonable. I wanted to go somewhere else with that.

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Do you think that Nintendo, because I think Switch 2

00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:35.120
will be successful. I don't think it's going to be Switch 1 successful.

00:55:35.120 --> 00:55:39.280
I don't think it's going to be we successful. There's no great secret.

00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:41.520
Nintendo knocks it out of the park when they deliver

00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:47.280
cheap enough hardware and great games. That's the formula.

00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:51.520
And I don't think the Switch 2 delivers on that formula quite.

00:55:51.520 --> 00:55:55.040
I think 450 is something that will end up under people's

00:55:55.040 --> 00:55:59.600
Christmas trees, but not as many. And that's going to hurt their ability to build an enormous

00:55:59.600 --> 00:56:03.840
library for it and all of those things that knock on effects.

00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:09.520
They also lost the regi factor. So the Wii Sports equivalent, whatever it's called now,

00:56:09.520 --> 00:56:12.800
the stupid tutorial thing is a paid. You've got to be. They got to be.

00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:15.920
I don't care how many dollars it is. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It needs to be zero.

00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:20.400
It should be zero. Yeah. Agreed 100%. Like they're losing those types of things, which is bad.

00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.520
But tell me this, because I think Switch 2 is going to do fine.

00:56:23.520 --> 00:56:26.000
I don't think it's going to be a Wii U, but I don't think it's going to be a Wii.

00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:31.280
What about what's coming next? Yeah, I don't know. There isn't a lot of...

00:56:32.240 --> 00:56:35.520
Like VR seems like a dead end. Sony gave up.

00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:41.440
Motion control was super innovative and cool at the time,

00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:48.240
but even Nintendo seems to have mostly given up on that, aside from, you know, like Wank mini games and Mario Party or whatever.

00:56:48.240 --> 00:56:52.640
I don't think Nintendo is going to do anything that you put on your face.

00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:57.200
I don't think Nintendo is going to do VR or AR.

00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:03.040
So like, are we just... Is it just Switch 3, Switch 4, Switch 5?

00:57:03.040 --> 00:57:10.160
Like, because that was the whole thing with Nintendo. That was their identity, was they didn't need to compete toe-to-toe

00:57:10.160 --> 00:57:13.360
with the, you know, the HD juggernaut.

00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:17.040
When they had... Oh, but we have second screen that you can like sit on the toilet

00:57:17.040 --> 00:57:20.480
and stream your game from. Like they had the gimmick factor.

00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:24.400
What is Switch 2's gimmick? I know they did. My point is I think they're going to in the future.

00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:28.640
Yeah, the shitty mouse thing is weird.

00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:30.480
Yeah, my bad.

00:57:33.680 --> 00:57:38.000
Like, what is that? And you know what? Maybe I'm going to be so wrong.

00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:43.440
Oh, I think people will use it. I still think it's going to be better for shooter games. Like maybe they're going to use it for like, you know, weird,

00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:47.760
you know, leg-wank game or something like that. So you can...

00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:51.120
Well, I don't know. Like, because you can use an optical sensor for anything.

00:57:51.120 --> 00:57:55.040
It doesn't have to be a mouse pointer. Here's a question. There was a sports game for Switch, right?

00:57:56.560 --> 00:58:00.880
The Wii Sports equivalent thing? I think there was some kind of sports game for Switch.

00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:03.440
I don't remember what the Dillio was with it, though.

00:58:07.680 --> 00:58:10.160
Nintendo Switch Sports. Yeah, did anyone care?

00:58:12.240 --> 00:58:16.800
I don't know, but I feel like they kind of need it. Like if a Nintendo Switch Sports falls in a forest,

00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:18.080
does anyone hear it? Like, I don't...

00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:23.120
Like, here's a potentially hot... Aramine says, I love it.

00:58:23.120 --> 00:58:26.400
And Interested Panda says, wasn't good. So, all right.

00:58:27.600 --> 00:58:30.720
I think if they effectively just took Wii Sports

00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:34.160
and spruced it up a Wii bit, get it,

00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:39.200
and put it on Switch 2 and made it free,

00:58:39.200 --> 00:58:42.560
like it was with the original Wii, I think the Switch 2 would kill.

00:58:42.560 --> 00:58:46.640
Because... Isn't the new tutorial paid, right? Yeah, stupid. I'm not even talking about the tutorial, though.

00:58:46.640 --> 00:58:53.440
I'm talking about a sports game. A Monday game. It wasn't just the tutorial features of Wii Sports

00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:58.320
that people liked. People genuinely really liked the game. I had a fun time playing Wii Sports.

00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:02.560
And anyone any age could play it. Absolutely. And that's Nintendo's killer thing.

00:59:02.560 --> 00:59:05.920
That was probably the first thing, the first gaming experience,

00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:09.440
the only gaming experience that I ever shared with my in-laws.

00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:13.120
Yeah. My mom loved it. My dad at least liked it.

00:59:13.120 --> 00:59:16.960
The Wii brought us together in the living room. Yes. In a way that... And that's what Nintendo does.

00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:20.160
The Switch doesn't. And that's why I'm saying they're not going to make something that goes on your face.

00:59:20.160 --> 00:59:25.840
Right. Because they want it to be a family thing. All of their commercials, there's multiple people playing.

00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:30.880
You think about Xbox or PlayStation commercial, maybe they show people playing together online,

00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:34.880
but not usually in the same room anymore. Yeah. And it's like the lights are out.

00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:38.320
Yeah. And like there's RGB. Game remote. And someone's like locked in.

00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:42.720
Switch is often... Brightly lit. Multiple people hanging out in a brightly lit

00:59:42.720 --> 00:59:46.160
same room situation. Yeah. So I think they got to embrace that.

00:59:46.160 --> 00:59:51.280
What are they going to do to move that forward, though? I think they tripped on the release personally.

00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:55.520
They should... That tutorial thing should have been free and it should have actually just been a sports game

00:59:55.520 --> 00:59:57.040
that also had tutorial features.

00:59:58.720 --> 01:00:02.400
And then I think they would have killed... look, take the Wii format, rinse, repeat.

01:00:03.200 --> 01:00:07.520
And they've said up front that they're aiming to make money on the hardware this time.

01:00:08.160 --> 01:00:14.880
I don't work for Nintendo. You know, I don't know their mind, you know, but I...

01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:20.320
Or we could be wrong. And I could be wrong, but I feel like why are they

01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:24.000
breaking a formula that has worked so well?

01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:29.200
And then every time that they've deviated from it has not worked? Yeah, get consoles and people's houses.

01:00:29.200 --> 01:00:32.240
It works. And then they'll buy games every once in a while

01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:36.000
because they want something new to do. Because the buying of the game is an easier cost

01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:38.160
to stomach even with the inflated price

01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:42.560
than a whole freaking console. How big...

01:00:42.560 --> 01:00:50.000
How excited do you think people would have been if the Switch 2 was launching and Mario Kart World

01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:53.840
was a pack-in for $450? Dude, that would have cranked.

01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:57.600
People would have went nuts. Yeah, 100%. And they could have been temporary.

01:00:57.600 --> 01:01:01.680
Like they could have done it for the first month or the first three months or something like that.

01:01:01.680 --> 01:01:05.200
Because think about how the original Xbox sold, right? Halo.

01:01:05.200 --> 01:01:09.200
Yeah. And it wasn't a pack-in, but everybody bought it with Halo.

01:01:09.200 --> 01:01:11.520
But what would happen is they would essentially

01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:18.480
turbocharge, pun intended, the adoption of this new console

01:01:19.520 --> 01:01:23.040
while generating some revenue. And realistically, over the lifespan,

01:01:23.040 --> 01:01:26.080
I mean, if Mario Kart World is going to be another 10-year game

01:01:26.080 --> 01:01:29.920
like we saw with Mario Kart 8, they will make back their development cost

01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:32.240
once they stop packing it and people will still buy it.

01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:36.720
Yeah, like first two, three months it's packed in. Sure, that'd be interesting.

01:01:36.720 --> 01:01:41.200
Here's a hot take on Switch 3. I think I've devised what they do.

01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:47.680
Okay, I'd love to hear it. Camera with AI detection of movement and tracking.

01:01:47.680 --> 01:01:50.880
So you can do things. Yeah, that could probably be done by the time of Switch 3 rolls around.

01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:54.080
Like sports things or dance games or whatever. Bring back dance games.

01:01:54.080 --> 01:01:59.840
Where there's like actually really good tracking on things, so they're not blank games anymore.

01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:02.080
Holy s***, you could bring back Rock Band

01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:06.320
because you could just do everything with the camera.

01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:08.880
So the peripherals wouldn't even need to be plugged in.

01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:15.200
That would actually be sick. So, and we're assuming that it's going to be

01:02:15.200 --> 01:02:21.440
another six to eight years. Probably. We're assuming that the kind of AI processing

01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:28.400
that you'll be able to do on a little thing will advance far enough to do that kind of real-time tracking

01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:33.680
of like drumming and whatever else. The speed and stuff might be a little bit rough right now, but you can do a lot of that right now on a phone.

01:02:33.680 --> 01:02:38.000
So like, yeah, give us eight years, it should be pretty cheap to pack into a console.

01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:40.640
Interesting, you could play Wii Sports

01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:45.840
with just like actually probably better motion controls

01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:50.400
and you could have a really rudimentary gyroscope in. Sure, you could have some controller.

01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:54.480
I just think you could use full-scale tracking. You could probably do it.

01:02:54.480 --> 01:03:01.280
Yeah, I feel like it'll be something like that because Nintendo's going to try to get you together

01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:06.080
and up and moving and family friendly and stuff like that. So I think this could work.

01:03:07.040 --> 01:03:11.520
And my hint for it was that they are selling cameras

01:03:11.520 --> 01:03:14.800
for the Switch right now. Yeah, okay, all right. I don't think that's a...

01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:17.840
That's a path forward, that's something. That's something.

01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:24.880
Okay, Dan. Hey, LLD, with Anno117 coming out this year, allegedly.

01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:29.200
What improvements or quality of life are you hoping for in the franchise?

01:03:29.200 --> 01:03:32.560
At this point, I'm hoping they just don't sieve 7 the UI.

01:03:32.560 --> 01:03:35.600
I have the lamest take on this in the world. Anno1800 was perfect.

01:03:35.600 --> 01:03:41.200
And if they just do that with the skin, then it'll be a great game. This is the lamest take in the world and have the exact same one.

01:03:41.200 --> 01:03:48.000
I mean, they put, dude... How all good games should work. Just give me a cool theme and really don't change a bunch.

01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:51.600
A lot of the expansions for Anno1800 were really just

01:03:51.600 --> 01:03:53.840
more of the same. Yep, and they were great.

01:03:55.120 --> 01:04:01.680
And yeah, that team put so much love and care

01:04:02.080 --> 01:04:06.800
into what they do. There's so much depth to the gameplay.

01:04:07.520 --> 01:04:11.840
The voice acting is great. The characters are so fun.

01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:16.320
I actually never played the campaign.

01:04:17.600 --> 01:04:20.800
I did. I dabbled like a tiny bit, but I like... It's pretty good.

01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:24.000
Okay, cool. I didn't really need it.

01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:29.600
Yeah, it's pretty good. I just love... It's really not a big deal, and I don't think it needs to get much better, personally.

01:04:29.600 --> 01:04:33.920
They could make it a little better, I'm sure. There's some possibilities there, but I don't think it needs a dramatic change.

01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:39.040
It's basically just the multiplayer, but with some themed tasks.

01:04:39.040 --> 01:04:42.800
And I love how they handled their microtransactions.

01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:46.480
They felt more like classic game expansions

01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:50.480
because they really did literally expand the game.

01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:54.000
Which made me completely cool with it. Everything that was great about it

01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:58.720
and made it bigger and more better and deeper.

01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.400
Again, back to what I just said. With love.

01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:06.720
With thought, with care, with love. Making sure that the expansions

01:05:06.720 --> 01:05:10.080
don't wreck the balance of the original game

01:05:10.080 --> 01:05:17.600
and destroy what was great about it. And make it so you don't need them.

01:05:17.600 --> 01:05:21.360
You can still just play the original game and enjoy it. The only thing is...

01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:25.840
And the way the multiplayer works is, depending on which expansions you each own,

01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:29.520
you just activate or disable them for your joint play session.

01:05:29.520 --> 01:05:33.120
So not everyone has to have sunken treasures or whatever else.

01:05:33.120 --> 01:05:36.880
You don't have to have every expansion. There's things that I think they could improve,

01:05:37.680 --> 01:05:42.080
but I wouldn't want dramatic changes. I bet you they could make expeditions a little bit cooler.

01:05:42.080 --> 01:05:45.840
Okay. Would you want them to be grittier?

01:05:47.520 --> 01:05:52.400
Could your people need... Do you need to have anti-drug enforcement?

01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:55.440
Or something like that? Could they make it grittier?

01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:58.720
I don't think so. Just an idea. Okay. What about land combat?

01:05:58.720 --> 01:06:03.440
Because the original Anno... Anno 16.02 had land combat.

01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:09.120
It was kind of terrible. It was janky, but it existed. And it was an aspect of conquering islands

01:06:09.120 --> 01:06:13.360
that in my opinion, conquering islands is a bit too easy in Anno 1800,

01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:17.200
at least against the AI characters. There's no land campaign. You don't have to do anything.

01:06:17.200 --> 01:06:21.280
You just destroy their warehouse. And there's also economic victory

01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:26.880
where you can buy shares in their island. But there's no land campaign.

01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:29.840
You can't conquer stuff. You can't take over what's there.

01:06:30.560 --> 01:06:33.600
So there's no actual capture of anything.

01:06:33.600 --> 01:06:36.640
I'd love to see... Okay. You know what? No. I got ideas.

01:06:36.640 --> 01:06:40.000
I mean, it won't help with 11-7 or whatever it is

01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:46.400
because it's too old. But I would have loved to see naval combat.

01:06:47.200 --> 01:06:51.520
Not just firing cannons at each other, but I'd love to see ship-to-ship combat.

01:06:51.520 --> 01:06:55.040
Like, sorry. Ship-to-ship hand-to-hand combat

01:06:55.040 --> 01:06:59.040
where you can capture a ship. Thank you. Boarding. That's the word I was looking for.

01:06:59.040 --> 01:07:02.880
Yeah, that'd be kind of... I don't know how you do that mechanic. Boarding on the water. You could have waterboarding.

01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:08.480
In the bay. I don't know how you do that mechanic

01:07:10.240 --> 01:07:13.840
in a top-down game. Super well.

01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:17.920
I mean, you could... Sure, there's some way. No, you could do it. This has been done before.

01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:20.960
So you could approach the enemy ship

01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:26.080
and then you could just have an event that pops up that basically goes auto-calc or manually...

01:07:26.080 --> 01:07:30.160
What's the other one, basically? It would switch to an RTS game?

01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:32.800
Because that's... And it wouldn't be...

01:07:34.720 --> 01:07:37.760
As someone who only ever played ANO 1800, you could go, oh, well, that's not ANO.

01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:42.560
But 1602, literally the first game, had that. You could grab your soldiers

01:07:42.560 --> 01:07:47.600
and click and move them around and fight and micromanage. And it was a bad RTS, but it was an RTS.

01:07:47.600 --> 01:07:51.600
Yeah, I don't know if there is a result there where it's actually good.

01:07:51.600 --> 01:07:55.360
That's one of the concerns that I think I have. Okay, that's fair. That's fair.

01:07:55.360 --> 01:08:00.000
Because in my opinion, one of the reasons why the naval combat works pretty well

01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:04.320
is because they needed to build a lot of those systems anyways for all the shipping and stuff.

01:08:05.680 --> 01:08:09.760
So they're building on top of other systems. There is no other system that would use...

01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:13.120
Oh, what about bribery? Bribery would be an interesting element.

01:08:13.120 --> 01:08:14.480
Bribery would be cool. You know, you could...

01:08:16.240 --> 01:08:19.360
Tariffs would be interesting. Doesn't that exist?

01:08:20.160 --> 01:08:23.600
Well, you can charge more for goods or less for goods or whatever else.

01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:28.320
And the people just won't give us food. Man, trade is so complicated to build a good interface for.

01:08:28.320 --> 01:08:33.360
Like even Loving Anno, I don't really use trade with the NPCs much.

01:08:33.360 --> 01:08:37.200
I just trade amongst my own stuff because it's kind of too much work.

01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:43.520
Or I'll set certain things like the guy who runs the prison.

01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:47.680
He buys soap at a good price. So I'll distribute soap from my production island

01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:51.920
to all my islands that need it. And then I'll dump whatever's left at his island

01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:55.360
before going back to pick up more. So if you have a surplus production

01:08:55.360 --> 01:08:59.680
in your nation or whatever, then you can make money that way.

01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:02.800
But generally speaking, a little bit too tedious.

01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:09.120
Hoopmon says that's getting pretty close to a total war game. That's fair. Maybe that's part of why I'm talking about it

01:09:09.120 --> 01:09:12.960
because I did enjoy total war games back in the day when we played a modern one.

01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:16.320
I'm getting a concern. Like when you have too many focuses for a team...

01:09:16.320 --> 01:09:20.320
That's true. It will inevitably diminish certain other things.

01:09:20.320 --> 01:09:25.200
That's fair. And it could alienate the people that really just like building sprawling empires.

01:09:25.200 --> 01:09:29.680
Yeah. I do think an ability to potentially do that.

01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:32.720
Like maybe you have certain ships. Spycraft.

01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:37.920
Spycraft would be sweet. But what would you spy? Because there's no tech tree.

01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:42.880
And I don't know. But if you could have them influence riots.

01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:47.040
Oh, sure. Or like economic sabotage.

01:09:47.040 --> 01:09:50.480
Yeah. That would be interesting. So if you can screw up someone's like...

01:09:50.480 --> 01:09:54.640
What are those things called? The like trade centers where you install the things and it buffs the area around them?

01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:58.480
Oh, trade unions. Trade unions. Yeah. If you could have them like sabotage trade unions.

01:09:58.480 --> 01:10:02.560
Yeah. That would be interesting. There could be potentially interesting things

01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:07.520
that you could do there. All right. Well, sure. In that case, I'm excited for N0117 and...

01:10:07.520 --> 01:10:10.800
If they made a ship that was built for boarding,

01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:15.440
but it was notably weaker. So you had to have it be part of a fleet.

01:10:15.440 --> 01:10:18.720
And then if you could damage another ship and then use that ship to board them.

01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:23.520
And then if you did that action, it just gave it to you. But then thinking about how much there is to do in N0,

01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:26.720
like would you have time to micromanage that? Probably not.

01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:30.240
And that's part of what keeps it so engaging is that there's always something...

01:10:30.240 --> 01:10:33.680
One more shipment to attend to.

01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:37.680
One more trade to complete. One more expedition to follow up on.

01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:40.880
I think it might be kind of flow breaking. So maybe... Yeah, maybe not.

01:10:40.880 --> 01:10:44.800
You know what? I'm going to leave it to the experts. Oh, sorry. Is it 1107 or 1107?

01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:47.840
I actually don't know. I'm pretty confident. I haven't been paying attention.

01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:52.000
And I've said this before and been super wrong. And I've said this before and been super right.

01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:54.480
So who knows? But I'm pretty confident it's going to be good.

01:10:55.280 --> 01:11:00.400
I hope so. I don't see... Like looking at the pattern of actions that they did for 1800.

01:11:01.040 --> 01:11:06.560
I don't see them breaking that so much with the really positive community sentiment that they had

01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:10.960
and everything else to take some... They're also going to want to innovate though.

01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:16.080
So they're going to take some risks and hey... And I'm sure they'll do some stuff. There's definitely areas that could be better.

01:11:16.080 --> 01:11:20.160
I think visibility of income and quest could be better.

01:11:20.160 --> 01:11:23.440
I think expeditions could be more engaging.

01:11:23.440 --> 01:11:27.520
Yeah. Right now it's just like... It feels like a choose your own adventure book.

01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:30.320
Where there's like almost always a obvious right answer.

01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:35.680
Yeah. Well... It's a little bit too easy to be... Or a lot of the time just isn't because...

01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:39.520
There is either no right answer or no good answer. Everything's a die roll and it's just like,

01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:42.720
okay, this could have been automated. Yeah, it just doesn't feel super great.

01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:48.000
Yeah. It's not terrible or anything, but it's not super great.

01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:53.760
Rod says Luke doesn't know. What do I not know? Oh, did I say I don't know?

01:11:54.320 --> 01:11:56.960
Darn it. Darn it. Thanks Rod. Darn it. Okay.

01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:02.400
Yeah, there are things that they could improve, but I don't want dramatic changes.

01:12:02.400 --> 01:12:05.600
Hit us with one more. Do we even have a third?

01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:07.840
Oh, do we not? I mean there's so many.

01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:12.080
Yeah, but most of them were like, thank you for free shipping.

01:12:12.080 --> 01:12:13.920
Oh, that makes sense. Ha, ha, ha.

01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:19.360
My things. I have acquired goods.

01:12:19.360 --> 01:12:23.760
Thank you very much. Bless. I think I got one from Paraguay and from Portugal

01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:26.080
and so many from Australia. That's going to cost.

01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:30.320
Yep. Let's go. So they're just getting them in there before...

01:12:31.040 --> 01:12:35.280
We just sell a lot of stuff to make money. Let's eat all our margin by giving everyone free shipping.

01:12:35.280 --> 01:12:39.360
No, no, the more they order, the more we can kind of absorb the shipping cost,

01:12:39.360 --> 01:12:43.280
but also the more the shipment costs to send. Yeah, but you guys designed it.

01:12:43.280 --> 01:12:47.440
You guys designed it. They don't do that. You want me to even break it down.

01:12:47.440 --> 01:12:50.640
I'm sure people have figured it out. You guys designed it in a particular way,

01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:53.840
which is interesting. We did? Yeah. What did we do?

01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:59.440
I'm curious. I know what we did, but what did we do? Well, there's the one primary discount on...

01:12:59.440 --> 01:13:02.320
Yeah, loop laptop. Where is it? Weep.

01:13:03.440 --> 01:13:06.560
Weep. You can't find it this way. Oh, there you can.

01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:11.920
There it is. One primary discount. You need $150 to break the shipstorm.

01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:15.920
So if you already wanted MCM, this is now down to $79.

01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:20.160
If you top it up, there's a variety of ways to do this on the store to almost exactly $150,

01:13:20.160 --> 01:13:24.160
then you get this, an item, and free shipping all for the original price.

01:13:25.040 --> 01:13:27.040
Oh, that's actually totally not what we did.

01:13:28.640 --> 01:13:32.080
That's nice though. That's a crazy way to go about it. That's super cool.

01:13:32.720 --> 01:13:38.800
Yeah, no, that's not what we did. Basically, we just did the math for how little we're making on that

01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:42.400
and how much averaged out over the world shipping

01:13:42.400 --> 01:13:46.480
will probably cost us knowing that our orders skew

01:13:46.480 --> 01:13:49.440
much more international when we do a shipping promo

01:13:50.080 --> 01:13:54.560
and hoping and praying that the other things

01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:58.800
that they add to the cart will be things with reasonable margin on them

01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:02.720
and that most people will exceed the exactly $150

01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:05.600
and that we will come out ahead. Is that happening so far? Can you see?

01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:09.200
I mean, I can, I guess. Don't look.

01:14:10.400 --> 01:14:14.080
You don't think so, Dan? Because I don't feel like I want to make him sweat a little bit.

01:14:15.360 --> 01:14:20.000
No, people are, people are going crazy because I think they just want $199.

01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:23.040
They've been looking to do a big order. This person just doesn't care. $75.

01:14:24.080 --> 01:14:26.960
Well, who does that? Screw yourself.

01:14:29.200 --> 01:14:33.520
And the horse it rode in on. I didn't get the kill measurement stuff.

01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:36.880
Just whatever. I'm just shopping like normal.

01:14:37.440 --> 01:14:40.880
Okay. I got one here. That's 330 bucks from Poland.

01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:50.240
Damn. Oh boy, that's gonna stay. $159, $159, $189, $169, $199, $154, $199, $154, $154.

01:14:50.240 --> 01:14:54.160
Sorry, my report is... $159, $154. Shopify changed their...

01:14:54.160 --> 01:14:58.800
$154. There's a lot of $154s. Shopify changed their dashboard

01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:03.200
and I kind of don't know how to use it anymore. I don't spend that much time in it

01:15:03.200 --> 01:15:07.040
because we have people who work here whose job is to do that.

01:15:07.040 --> 01:15:10.800
People found you can get $4.97 over the free shipping

01:15:12.240 --> 01:15:14.080
with a specific set of things.

01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:22.480
And a bunch of people did it. The top selling items though, actually, are the...

01:15:22.480 --> 01:15:26.000
Oh God. Yeah. Okay.

01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:30.560
We're gonna be okay. Like realistically, this is about burning

01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:33.440
some inventory right now and we are achieving that.

01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:39.760
We're not doing much more other than achieving that right now.

01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:43.760
I will say though that the next best selling item is actually Commuter Backpack.

01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:46.880
Oh nice. So it's the MCM obviously.

01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:50.720
It's that Essentials bundle that's crushing it. It's well in the lead.

01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:54.720
So with Commuter Backpack, if that's the only thing you buy, you just get free shipping on it?

01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:59.760
Not quite. Oh. Because the Commuter Backpack is $149.99.

01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:04.080
Nice. But there's lots of like relatively low cost items

01:16:04.080 --> 01:16:05.760
on the store that you could add to that.

01:16:07.280 --> 01:16:10.560
Yeah. Backpack is next... Oh, in terms of revenue dollars,

01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:16.240
not in terms of units. I'm not sorted by units. But yeah, no. It's cable management, Commuter, Backpack,

01:16:16.240 --> 01:16:19.520
screwdriver, precision screwdriver, framework hoodie.

01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:23.600
A lot of people seem to be waiting for a deal on the framework hoodie. So they're moving a bunch of those.

01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:27.760
It's a nice hoodie I like wearing it. Water bottle scribe drivers. It's all the usual suspects.

01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:32.640
But hey, don't forget about the apparel. Yeah. Don't forget about that.

01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:36.320
Okay. Dan, hit me with one more. Oh wait, no two more topics? Let's do two more topics.

01:16:36.320 --> 01:16:38.640
Yep. I gotta get some water anyway. All right.

01:16:39.440 --> 01:16:41.120
Jay's Two Cents is having an LTA.

01:16:43.200 --> 01:16:47.760
A Tech Fair. He's holding what he's calling the SoCal Tech Fair

01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:52.160
on May 3rd and May 4th. Let's go. You'll be able to meet awesome creators

01:16:52.160 --> 01:16:56.320
like Bitwit, Austin Evans, Jay himself, and more.

01:16:57.040 --> 01:17:01.760
They are promoting Tech Family Feud. There's going to be some industry panels,

01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:06.320
Raffles, SimRig Challenge, and so much fun stuff.

01:17:06.320 --> 01:17:09.520
Let's go ahead and, oh shoot. That's a link to the video I had.

01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:13.760
I actually wanted to go to the website. There's also a huge garage sale

01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:17.120
featuring iBuyPower certified refurbished hardware

01:17:17.120 --> 01:17:21.360
and some of Jay's own lightly reviewed hardware as well.

01:17:22.320 --> 01:17:24.240
And why the iBuyPower?

01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:29.200
Oh, right, right, right, right. Because they're like the, like, code.

01:17:29.200 --> 01:17:30.800
Co-hosting or whatever. Yeah, yeah.

01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:36.640
Isn't height, is height an affiliated brand with iBuyPower?

01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:40.000
Actually don't know. I believe so. I don't actually know.

01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:43.440
I know NZXT is. I don't know that height is.

01:17:43.440 --> 01:17:48.240
Well, okay. I think they are. NZXT isn't, but anyway.

01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:53.280
Okay, let's go on special SoCal. Tower of Power?

01:17:53.280 --> 01:17:57.520
On Height's support website, it says that height is the sister brand of iBuyPower.

01:17:57.520 --> 01:18:03.120
Okay, there you go. Okay, Tower of Power. So they're doing like motherboard, tower build things,

01:18:03.120 --> 01:18:07.600
PC speed builds, race Jay's car.

01:18:08.480 --> 01:18:11.120
Buy nothing, trade-in booths. That's pretty cool.

01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:16.240
Oh, in the sim, okay. I just heard you say race Jay's car.

01:18:16.240 --> 01:18:20.000
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, they've got actually a bunch of great partners

01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:24.960
for this Intel, AMD, ASUS, Corsair, Pulsar, Hall of Tech, CyberPower PC.

01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:28.480
Oh, did we just look for Eventbrite? No, that doesn't make any sense.

01:18:28.480 --> 01:18:32.080
Did we, what, sorry? Look, this is what I have. What did you do?

01:18:33.200 --> 01:18:35.360
What are you doing, Luke? What is that?

01:18:36.480 --> 01:18:40.160
I clicked on the link in the talk. Oh, did we break it?

01:18:42.320 --> 01:18:47.920
Hold on. No, no, mine's still loading. Weird. Okay, well, anyway, if you're in Southern California.

01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:51.840
There we go, it loads now. Then yeah, maybe check it out.

01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:57.200
I guess that's it. Our discussion question. Oh, who wrote this?

01:18:58.240 --> 01:19:00.800
Our discussion question is, when is LTX coming back?

01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:06.720
We don't have a plan to bring back LTX.

01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:11.680
Some people seem very confused about this fact,

01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:14.800
but LTX was never profitable. Oh, yeah.

01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:20.480
We were explicitly clear about it at every stage, but for some reason, some people are very stupid

01:19:20.480 --> 01:19:28.880
and can't figure out that, that means that we're not really profitable at it.

01:19:28.880 --> 01:19:32.240
There are things we could have done to make it more profitable. But we didn't do them.

01:19:32.240 --> 01:19:36.800
But we didn't. We spent a ton of money to make LTX what it was,

01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:41.120
and at this point, unless we could make LTX what it was

01:19:41.120 --> 01:19:44.480
and what I wanted it to be, I don't really see the point of doing it.

01:19:45.440 --> 01:19:49.040
The last one was really cool. It was a really, it was a high note to end up on.

01:19:49.040 --> 01:19:53.040
We had something like 60, 70 creators or something. I can't remember what the number was,

01:19:53.040 --> 01:19:56.400
but it was incredible. That group dinner was awesome.

01:19:56.400 --> 01:19:59.440
It was sweet. I'm probably including plus ones in that number.

01:19:59.440 --> 01:20:02.960
That's probably why that number didn't come to you. I really liked the last LTX.

01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:06.000
Yeah, it was great. The one before that was pretty solid as well,

01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:10.320
but the last one was like kind of premium. Pretzel Parkour says, you said 2023 was profitable,

01:20:10.320 --> 01:20:15.280
but it put a huge strain on the team. It was profitable in terms of gross profit.

01:20:15.280 --> 01:20:20.400
It was not profitable in terms of net profit. Once we factor in all the time that we spent on it,

01:20:20.400 --> 01:20:25.280
it was a huge strain on the team and it wasn't. A lot of different ways to measure that stuff.

01:20:25.280 --> 01:20:31.200
What he's kind of talking about is like the writers needing to work potentially over time and stuff

01:20:31.200 --> 01:20:34.320
in order to prep for LTX and make their videos leading up to it.

01:20:34.320 --> 01:20:38.400
Not just writers, logistics. That doesn't necessarily get factored into direct cost.

01:20:38.400 --> 01:20:44.480
Creator, warehouse, everyone. It was all hands on deck and it just crushed us.

01:20:45.120 --> 01:20:48.960
If we can't make it what we envisioned it to be,

01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:52.720
then I'd rather that the last one just be,

01:20:54.880 --> 01:21:01.760
it's Swan Song. With that said, I'm actually really excited about Whale Land.

01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:07.040
Yeah. Not the first one. Is that part of the dock this week?

01:21:07.040 --> 01:21:10.880
Okay, there it is. What the hell do you want to do at Whale?

01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:14.320
Okay, so we had our infrastructure test.

01:21:14.320 --> 01:21:19.680
Was that two weeks ago? A week ago? I can't remember. Time is an illusion that I do not look at.

01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:23.920
Okay, so we had our infrastructure test where we went. We wanted to make sure that all the networking

01:21:23.920 --> 01:21:28.480
and power was working and thank goodness we did because it turned out that three

01:21:28.480 --> 01:21:31.680
of our California standard 50 amp power plugs

01:21:31.680 --> 01:21:34.640
were just not hooked up at the breaker panel.

01:21:35.200 --> 01:21:39.280
Electricians told us it was hooked up. They ran the cables there.

01:21:39.280 --> 01:21:42.560
They just weren't in the breaker panel. It turned out that it was a bit of a,

01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:45.680
a bit of a, you take it, I got it situation

01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:51.760
with the lighting contractors who went and took those breaker spots and then whoever was working

01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:55.040
on the power plugs was like, oh, I mean, they're occupied.

01:21:55.040 --> 01:21:57.280
So someone else's job, see you later.

01:21:58.480 --> 01:22:01.760
Is my understanding of what happened? Who knows, but that makes sense.

01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:05.760
Not super happy with how that all went down. But the good thing about the contractors

01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:09.920
that we used for that building, the general contractor that we used for that building,

01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:12.000
is that while they were very expensive,

01:22:13.440 --> 01:22:18.960
they are the kind that you follow up with, you know, six months, nine months after completion,

01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:22.400
and they actually mostly return your calls

01:22:22.400 --> 01:22:25.840
and try to deal with things. So my understanding is that it is being dealt with.

01:22:25.840 --> 01:22:29.360
So I appreciate that. I wish it didn't happen in the first place,

01:22:29.360 --> 01:22:32.800
but I appreciate that it's mostly being dealt with.

01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:36.240
Anyway, so it's a really good thing that we did that test.

01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:42.320
And it's also a really good thing that we brought a bunch of gamers out to do that test,

01:22:42.320 --> 01:22:45.760
because I think that Whale Land

01:22:47.280 --> 01:22:50.320
has a bit of an identity crisis right now.

01:22:51.600 --> 01:22:55.440
You know, I think Luke and I approached it as like,

01:22:55.440 --> 01:23:01.120
I remember getting together with friends and playing video games and those being treasured memories.

01:23:01.120 --> 01:23:05.920
And the most obvious way to do that is, you know, like a BYOC, bring your own computer.

01:23:05.920 --> 01:23:10.640
You drag your rig out, all your peripherals. This is what we did. You set everything up for, realistically,

01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:15.600
you know, an entire weekend of gaming, and there's, you know, ball's energy drink,

01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:19.280
and pizza takeout, and it's a whale of a time, right?

01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:24.240
But what we kind of, or what at least, I don't know,

01:23:24.240 --> 01:23:28.000
I realized, and this was based on talking to other,

01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:31.280
it was staff and plus ones that we brought out for the infrastructure test.

01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:39.920
Talking to other people. What I put together is that maybe BYOC is dead,

01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:44.320
and maybe that's okay. Might be.

01:23:44.320 --> 01:23:48.880
So hang with me here for a second, because it is pretty much a guarantee

01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:51.920
that the very first Whale Land

01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:54.080
will probably be basically a BYOC.

01:23:55.520 --> 01:23:58.720
But I have what I think is a,

01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:02.960
okay, I've got people saying no it's not, but okay, here's my-

01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:07.440
Wait for the explanation. Wait, wait, okay? Because it's kind of cool, okay?

01:24:07.440 --> 01:24:10.800
Wait, wait for a second, because it's not that they're dead, and it's not that they're boring,

01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:14.320
and it's not that they're bad, but what they are is suboptimal.

01:24:15.040 --> 01:24:17.920
For every hour that you spend at a BYOC,

01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:24.560
what are the, how many minutes of that do you think you are spending actually playing a game

01:24:25.280 --> 01:24:27.760
with people who are also there?

01:24:29.360 --> 01:24:35.440
Actively engaged. The game time density for experiences

01:24:35.440 --> 01:24:39.920
that we are dependent on being in the same room for is really, really low,

01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:44.240
and it's just, whether it's faffing about with updates or someone's mic not working

01:24:44.240 --> 01:24:50.640
or not being able to find the right discord or someone not having the technical skills

01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:55.120
to go and get the totally legit copy of Halo Custom Edition

01:24:55.120 --> 01:24:58.400
that's on a server somewhere and get it installed. Like whatever it is,

01:24:58.400 --> 01:25:02.400
there's always something. There's always something delaying the game,

01:25:02.400 --> 01:25:06.720
and so what I was kind of thinking about is like, okay,

01:25:08.080 --> 01:25:11.280
how do we remove barriers? Because there's other barriers too.

01:25:11.280 --> 01:25:15.040
Like a lot of us are, you know, adults,

01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:19.120
and the prospect of being completely engrossed

01:25:19.120 --> 01:25:22.960
in something for an entire weekend is not only not always possible,

01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:27.200
but it's not always even appealing. And adding to that, like,

01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:32.320
you lost something, right? Yeah. What did you lose? I forget. A power adapter for my monitor.

01:25:32.320 --> 01:25:35.760
There you go. Okay. Hauling all of your stuff somewhere,

01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:39.920
like the way people set up their stations, their battle stations these days,

01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:43.120
tearing the whole thing down, taking it somewhere, setting it all up,

01:25:43.120 --> 01:25:46.720
tearing it back down, and carrying it somewhere, not always appealing.

01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:49.600
Now, I do think that there's gonna be a place

01:25:50.240 --> 01:25:56.080
for like a BYOC if you're the kind of person who like really, really, really, really, really, really

01:25:56.160 --> 01:25:59.360
wants to bring your own rig and just like kind of talk about it and hang out.

01:25:59.360 --> 01:26:02.640
I think it's possible that a BYOC could carry on forever.

01:26:02.640 --> 01:26:05.840
But over time, what I would like to see happen

01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:11.840
is that Whale Land goes from, you know, being 90% BYOC and 10% what I'm about to describe

01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:14.880
to being more like 90% what I'm about to describe

01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:18.720
and 10% BYOC. Because what I realized is that

01:26:19.360 --> 01:26:22.400
when you go by like a gaming,

01:26:22.720 --> 01:26:26.240
like an iCafe kind of thing in an airport

01:26:26.240 --> 01:26:30.320
or on a street or whatever, you'll have like a group of bros that are in there

01:26:31.120 --> 01:26:35.360
playing their own thing. A lot of the time, they're not interacting with other people in the space,

01:26:35.360 --> 01:26:39.280
and a lot of the time, those spaces are dead. I went to this arcade in Singapore

01:26:39.280 --> 01:26:45.440
that was shockingly expensive. Like I'm talking $3.50 a play on like SkiBall.

01:26:46.400 --> 01:26:51.600
No, like shockingly expensive. Now, in fairness, it was raining that day,

01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:55.680
but this place was packed, packed.

01:26:55.680 --> 01:26:58.880
You could barely move. It was wild.

01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:07.120
And I'm sitting there going, I have fun at Castle Fun Park. So what does the arcade have that the iCafe doesn't

01:27:07.120 --> 01:27:11.120
or that the BYOC doesn't? And everyone in the arcade, they're gaming.

01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:15.520
They're gaming or they're in line to game. They're gaming. They're engaged.

01:27:16.080 --> 01:27:20.960
And it was low friction. You don't need to bring all your crap to an arcade.

01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:24.640
You don't need to configure your graphic settings

01:27:24.640 --> 01:27:28.400
for an arcade. You don't need to install the games for an arcade. As limiting as this might sound,

01:27:28.400 --> 01:27:32.960
the games are also semi-decided for you. There's a smorgasbord of them.

01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:37.440
You can decide amongst the subset, but it's not, oh, the 700 games in my Steam list,

01:27:38.400 --> 01:27:41.120
which include a bunch of single-player games that I'm playing in a LAN for some reason.

01:27:41.680 --> 01:27:44.960
It also, it's fixed.

01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:49.280
Yeah. This is the, you know, the SkiBall machine or whatever.

01:27:49.280 --> 01:27:54.080
This is the air hockey table. And we've talked a lot about how we would want to like,

01:27:54.080 --> 01:27:58.240
we want to like enforce that when it's time to play this game, everyone's going to play this game,

01:27:58.240 --> 01:28:01.840
and we're going to be like, that's what we're doing. But at the end of the day, you can't do that.

01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:06.320
Even you were a pain in the butt when we were trying to get everybody separated

01:28:06.320 --> 01:28:09.520
into teams in Left 4 Dead, because you're sitting there playing like Slay the Spire

01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:12.560
or something with Left 4 Dead minimized in the background

01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:16.160
and not paying attention to comms. It's my best run I've ever had. Because, really?

01:28:16.160 --> 01:28:19.200
I set a record. Oh, nice. Oh yeah, thanks. It was like actually sick.

01:28:19.200 --> 01:28:22.320
Also, don't do that shit, man. We're trying to play Left 4 Dead.

01:28:22.320 --> 01:28:25.280
The only thing I did was I didn't select my little icon fast enough.

01:28:26.080 --> 01:28:29.520
Anyway, the point is that, well, we couldn't start the game. And that's the problem.

01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:34.000
We could. We could. I was not the reason we couldn't start the game. I was not the last player selected.

01:28:35.040 --> 01:28:41.520
So the point is that by having their own computers there,

01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:45.120
you introduce a lot of distraction. And we talked about like, oh, we could like

01:28:45.120 --> 01:28:51.120
block social media on the network. And we could do this, we could do that. But at the end of the day, that's going to diss…

01:28:51.120 --> 01:28:57.760
Then you're kind of pleasing no one. Because the people who want the arcadey experience

01:28:57.760 --> 01:29:02.000
where everyone just goes to a station and plays a game are going to be disappointed because like,

01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:06.480
why aren't we gaming right now? Are you playing World of Warcraft? Like, what are you even doing?

01:29:06.480 --> 01:29:09.600
You're not even playing with any of the other people who are here. What are you doing right now?

01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:14.320
Right? So those people are going to be disappointed. And the BYOC people who really are more about

01:29:14.320 --> 01:29:20.800
what's it called? Co-play, I think. Co-play, child development, hold on.

01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:25.920
I think it's called co-play. I don't know what you're talking about. Typically cooperative play, typically emerging is…

01:29:25.920 --> 01:29:29.760
No, no, no. It's called something else. But basically, it's a thing where…

01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:32.320
Parallel play? Parallel play, that's the one.

01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:36.160
Like boys in it. Yeah, where a bunch of kids are doing something.

01:29:36.160 --> 01:29:39.520
And the one kid that doesn't really have the social skills

01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:44.000
yet probably to integrate with the group will be playing alongside them,

01:29:44.720 --> 01:29:48.080
often doing something completely different. And we'll go home and tell mom, you know,

01:29:48.080 --> 01:29:51.600
oh yeah, me and Jenny did this, and me and Sarah did that, and we did that.

01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:55.280
But actually, they like never talked to Jenny or Sarah. They were just like, they were there.

01:29:55.280 --> 01:29:57.840
So yeah, parallel play, I believe is what it's called.

01:29:59.840 --> 01:30:04.240
And so for a lot of BYOC people, that is the appeal.

01:30:04.240 --> 01:30:08.320
They're going and they're parallel playing. They feel engaged with what's going on.

01:30:09.120 --> 01:30:13.360
But they don't actually want to play video games other than that one game that they like to play.

01:30:13.360 --> 01:30:17.440
And they don't actually want to talk to anybody other than that one person they like to talk to.

01:30:17.440 --> 01:30:21.280
And that's valid, but that's not what this event

01:30:21.280 --> 01:30:22.400
is trying to be.

01:30:24.400 --> 01:30:29.760
And you could go back to old WAN shows pre any whale land and hear us talk about

01:30:29.760 --> 01:30:34.640
how that wasn't what this event was supposed to be. So this event was never supposed to be that from the start.

01:30:35.200 --> 01:30:40.080
That's why we had, like at the test that we just did,

01:30:40.080 --> 01:30:44.240
there was sectioned periods of time where people were supposed to be all doing one thing.

01:30:44.240 --> 01:30:48.080
And even then the enforcement is clearly impossible.

01:30:48.080 --> 01:30:51.360
Yeah, we couldn't really do it. Teams were falling apart left and right.

01:30:51.360 --> 01:30:54.720
We try to do a valorant tournament. Oh, that was a disaster round.

01:30:54.720 --> 01:31:01.360
We had people leaving by the end. My team made the finals simply by merit of our entire

01:31:01.360 --> 01:31:04.080
five person squad being in the match.

01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:08.720
Because it was five on three in the semis. Yeah, because two people just like bailed.

01:31:08.720 --> 01:31:14.560
And this is with staff and plus ones. When we've got randoms, it will be impossible to wrangle anyone.

01:31:15.280 --> 01:31:19.040
So here's a new concept for whale land.

01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:24.160
You don't bring anything. You bring yourself and a ticket.

01:31:25.200 --> 01:31:32.320
And we make the gaming experiences. So we've got some ideas include like, you know, a pinball corner.

01:31:32.320 --> 01:31:36.320
You know, I bought a pinball machine. I put it in the lounge upstairs at smash champs.

01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:40.240
I think we've contacted Stern now.

01:31:40.240 --> 01:31:44.160
Oh, really? And yeah, I think they might be sending over like something for ShortCircuit.

01:31:44.160 --> 01:31:47.520
Stern machines are nice. Oh my gosh, dude. They're really nice.

01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:52.640
Dude, dude, dude, love it. Anyway, so, you know, pinball corner.

01:31:52.640 --> 01:31:56.000
And just by merit of having a ticket to whale land.

01:31:56.000 --> 01:32:00.640
You can go play pinball. You just go in, you just play. Which is what? You'll obviously have to not be a dick and like, you know,

01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:04.000
move out of the way if someone else needs a turn. But there's no like popping quarters into it.

01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:10.880
It's all you can eat. It's like the playdium model. There was an arcade at a big mall here that unfortunately shut down,

01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:15.520
I guess, because it wasn't sustainable. Fortunately, I don't care because these are not about like making a ton of money.

01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:18.080
They're about having fun and me wanting to play video games.

01:32:18.720 --> 01:32:22.720
But anyway, their model was all you can eat. So you just buy a pass. You go in, you play any game you want.

01:32:22.720 --> 01:32:26.160
You just swipe it. And I think it was just for tracking like which games people are playing

01:32:26.160 --> 01:32:29.680
because you didn't pay any extra except for some of the like premium games.

01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:33.760
Anyway, so like pinball corner, high end racing sim setups.

01:32:33.760 --> 01:32:39.920
These are just all these are ideas that are in the dock right now. But you can you could put the truck, the truck.

01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:44.320
Absolutely. And that's that's a big part of the sweet is we build

01:32:44.320 --> 01:32:48.320
so many cool gaming experiences around here that then we just tear down.

01:32:48.320 --> 01:32:52.320
And there are things like that no one would be able to experience.

01:32:52.320 --> 01:32:58.400
Like I yeah. Here's a big one. Have you ever wanted to play Star Trek bridge crew?

01:32:58.400 --> 01:33:01.360
Yeah. Have you ever played it? No, me neither.

01:33:02.320 --> 01:33:06.080
I haven't played like whatever the old phone one is. I think I lied.

01:33:06.080 --> 01:33:09.280
I think I actually tried it very briefly once for a video.

01:33:10.080 --> 01:33:14.800
But it's a it's a huge challenge. You need four people all with VR headsets.

01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:18.240
And it's like when are those stars going to align?

01:33:19.600 --> 01:33:24.160
At Whaleland. That's pretty good. We could have a we could have a bridge crew setup.

01:33:24.160 --> 01:33:26.480
And so here what else we've got?

01:33:28.320 --> 01:33:32.640
Oh my god, Jake. He says a really big RGB fan like three feet.

01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:36.320
And maybe we could cool a computer and make a video about his writer's meeting today.

01:33:36.320 --> 01:33:45.040
I told him I don't think it's video worthy anyway. The point is we'd have somewhere we'd have somewhere to graveyard those projects

01:33:45.040 --> 01:33:52.080
where people could enjoy them. Yeah, that'd be sweet. You know, you could even have like something that's closer to an exhibit like a state of VR

01:33:52.080 --> 01:33:58.720
test station. Dude, I would love that. There's a VR game that I love that just the star of the game.

01:33:58.720 --> 01:34:01.920
The stars never aligned to play it. It's called Takling's House Party.

01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:08.320
Oh, it's so sick. He's played it. Yeah. You have one VR headset player and everyone takes turns being the VR headset player.

01:34:08.320 --> 01:34:14.800
You're Hal. You're a home. You're a poor homeowner who's just trying to handle the taklings infestation in your house.

01:34:15.360 --> 01:34:20.240
Everyone else sits around the TV with controllers and they're the taklings.

01:34:20.240 --> 01:34:30.160
And it's a kind of co-operative sort of dynamic between the taklings because they are all against

01:34:30.160 --> 01:34:35.680
Hal. They all agree on that. But they're competing against each other. But they also want to be the most against Hal.

01:34:35.680 --> 01:34:46.800
It's really, really fun. It's very fun. And you need like realistically, if you don't have six plus taklings, it's too easy for Hal.

01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:49.920
You need chaos. And the more taklings, the more chaos.

01:34:50.480 --> 01:34:53.680
And I think that station- It's more fun when it's hard for Hal. Yeah.

01:34:53.680 --> 01:34:59.840
That station would be an absolute blast. I'd love state of VR because I mean, most people have tried what?

01:34:59.840 --> 01:35:02.160
Like a quest, I'm assuming at this point.

01:35:03.120 --> 01:35:08.000
And if you could show people like, you know, big screen beyonds and stuff like that,

01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:11.440
it would just be really cool. Yeah. So immersive history of gaming exhibits.

01:35:11.440 --> 01:35:15.680
We could have like older games you could play. So a decent amount of the exhibits that we're at,

01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:21.280
LTX to be honest. Yep. Gaming trivia corner, gaming jeopardy, human keyboard, people could...

01:35:21.280 --> 01:35:26.080
Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't know if we're ever going to end up doing that. Okay. So the writers have dumped a lot of projects.

01:35:26.080 --> 01:35:30.320
Read the last one. I wonder who said this. The Red Bull Chug Jug.

01:35:31.440 --> 01:35:34.480
Drink from an 1800 gallon jug of Red Bull.

01:35:34.480 --> 01:35:37.040
Whoever can drink the most wins the rest of the jug.

01:35:37.760 --> 01:35:41.600
No. Yes. We're not doing that because... Call your mom and dad.

01:35:41.600 --> 01:35:45.600
What are these ideas? Okay. Call your mom and dad.

01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:49.280
Okay.

01:35:49.280 --> 01:35:52.880
So my writing team is a bunch of nerds.

01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:56.240
Oh, man. Call your mom and dad. Gamer rage room.

01:35:56.240 --> 01:36:00.160
Your team kept feeding on match. So your hard carry never came online.

01:36:00.160 --> 01:36:03.280
Smash e-waste in a room to help process everything.

01:36:03.280 --> 01:36:06.560
Okay. The point is... Call your mom and dad. We could just bring the Tuesday pod.

01:36:07.360 --> 01:36:10.480
Just like... Yeah. The point is, the point is that...

01:36:11.360 --> 01:36:15.360
And I think we could... There is a lot of room for just still PC gaming.

01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:18.560
Like I would absolutely want to have an 8v8.

01:36:19.120 --> 01:36:22.400
All the systems facing each other. Red versus blue. Halo station.

01:36:22.400 --> 01:36:27.600
Oh, yeah. And we'd be playing Left 4 Dead would be great. I still would love to do Savage at some point.

01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:33.440
Oh, dude. Yeah. It's like a 64 versus 64 RTS slash FPS.

01:36:33.440 --> 01:36:36.000
One RTS player per team. Everyone else is FPS.

01:36:37.280 --> 01:36:41.840
So there's still room for us to have a ton of like traditional PC gaming.

01:36:41.840 --> 01:36:45.680
Like I'd love to have like a Worms Armageddon station. Where it's just like...

01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:48.880
Like it'd be kind of cool to have it in like a hexagon.

01:36:49.600 --> 01:36:53.360
Except the chairs are on the inside. So you're...

01:36:53.360 --> 01:36:56.960
Yeah. So you're... So you can like... So you can like lean over me like...

01:36:56.960 --> 01:37:00.000
Ah, I got him. You know, like... Because that's what was missing at...

01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:05.280
It sounds like one of the worms. A lot of people... A lot of people who attended the tech test were like...

01:37:05.280 --> 01:37:08.320
Actually, you know, I had more fun at the land at your house. Yeah, I did.

01:37:08.320 --> 01:37:12.320
Because we did a couple lands at my house. And I was trying to figure out why.

01:37:12.880 --> 01:37:16.160
Because all the same people were there. All the same computers were there.

01:37:16.160 --> 01:37:22.080
So what was the difference? And it was... It was actually the potted off isolation.

01:37:22.080 --> 01:37:26.400
Because like I was in the garage I think both times. And the garage ended up playing together.

01:37:26.400 --> 01:37:30.560
Yeah. And I was in the theater room a lot of the time. Just playing on the big screen.

01:37:30.560 --> 01:37:34.640
Yeah. And then there was a crew that was at my house till like five in the morning.

01:37:34.640 --> 01:37:39.440
Playing Jackbox games on the Rec Room TV. And so that was what was missing.

01:37:39.440 --> 01:37:43.440
Was giving people space to get immersed.

01:37:43.440 --> 01:37:48.880
It's easier to... When you and I were sitting in the back row trying to yell at people to come play whatever game we were playing.

01:37:48.880 --> 01:37:52.720
It wasn't that effective. Yeah. When you're in the garage and there's only eight of you.

01:37:52.720 --> 01:37:55.760
That's it. It's pretty easy to get people on board. Exactly.

01:37:55.760 --> 01:37:58.800
Um, it's very different. Sometimes it's useful.

01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:02.560
Sometimes it's used for good. I think there can also be like...

01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:05.920
Like one of the ideas I think I came up with. I don't know, maybe you did. I don't remember.

01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:09.760
But we could have like a Super Mario Bros. station.

01:38:10.320 --> 01:38:16.800
And... No, that was your idea. You could... You could... It just, you know, it's just sitting there on the first level at the beginning of the land.

01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:21.360
And the idea is if like by Friday night... Let's say it's a Friday Saturday land.

01:38:21.360 --> 01:38:25.760
Yeah. By Friday night at midnight if... All 96 exits.

01:38:25.760 --> 01:38:29.680
If it's beat... If they have beat the game. Yeah. Collectively the land.

01:38:29.680 --> 01:38:34.480
If the land has beat the game. Then like Linus orders pizza for everyone or something.

01:38:34.480 --> 01:38:38.960
And you structure it where like the budget to order pizza was...

01:38:38.960 --> 01:38:42.480
That'd be the cheapest pizza. Kind of in the ticket cost. Yeah, we better assume we're doing it.

01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:46.320
Expecting to buy it, you know. But you give them a mission. You give them something to chase.

01:38:46.320 --> 01:38:50.240
Because that sounds fun. And somebody's going to walk in and see that and be like, this is me.

01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:53.920
I will do this. And now they have like a mission and they accomplish it.

01:38:53.920 --> 01:38:57.440
And now they like earned pizza for the land. So they feel all stoked about it.

01:38:58.160 --> 01:39:02.480
And like you create these like little bits of activation. Now there are challenges.

01:39:02.480 --> 01:39:05.920
Obviously it's going to take a long time to execute on something like this.

01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:11.280
Like if we are literally rolling into the land with every computer.

01:39:11.360 --> 01:39:19.280
And every console and every display. And every, you know, pipe and drape isolator for VR, base stations or whatever.

01:39:19.280 --> 01:39:22.320
Right? Like if we're rolling in with absolutely everything that's needed.

01:39:23.840 --> 01:39:24.880
It's going to be tough.

01:39:27.360 --> 01:39:32.640
It'll take us time to build up to that. We could do this piecemeal. Like we could add things over time.

01:39:32.640 --> 01:39:36.240
Little bit, little bit, little bit as we build up to this whole thing.

01:39:36.240 --> 01:39:40.080
You know, we don't need 1,800 gallon jug of Red Bull day one.

01:39:40.080 --> 01:39:44.400
Yeah. So we're going to scrappy DP asks, where are you storing all this gear?

01:39:44.400 --> 01:39:52.880
We got a plan. We got a plan. That's actually a big part of what would enable this pivot is there was an unexpected plan

01:39:53.440 --> 01:40:00.560
for storing stuff, which will also help out smash champs in terms of growing their retail shop

01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:07.440
presence. So for those of you not sort of up to speed, I bought a badminton center a little while ago

01:40:07.440 --> 01:40:13.920
or more accurately, I bought a building and then turned it into a badminton center in Surrey.

01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:17.040
And it's actually going great, which is kind of surprising.

01:40:17.040 --> 01:40:20.320
I was expecting it to be a money losing endeavor forever.

01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:24.960
And the retail store is like killing it.

01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:31.040
Yeah. It's going unexpectedly well. I think we're over 200 premium members.

01:40:31.040 --> 01:40:35.200
So there is people have asked to be able to buy LTT Store products.

01:40:35.200 --> 01:40:38.480
I know. Physically. And there is LTT Store products there.

01:40:38.480 --> 01:40:43.200
The logistics are extremely challenging for doing order pickup because it's not like part of.

01:40:43.200 --> 01:40:46.720
Oh, I don't mean that. There's stuff on the shelf. Oh, I know. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

01:40:46.720 --> 01:40:50.880
There's only a couple of things, guys. It's like the athletic pants and some water bottles and stuff.

01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:58.240
It's not really set up. LTT Store has like hundreds of SKUs and the store is not set up for that.

01:40:58.240 --> 01:41:01.360
Anyway, the point is the retail store has been doing great.

01:41:01.360 --> 01:41:04.640
Not a tall XL's short sleeve. Yeah.

01:41:04.640 --> 01:41:10.160
It's a real business all of a sudden, which I wasn't really expecting.

01:41:10.160 --> 01:41:16.240
And so they kind of needed some extra space for like overflow inventory so that we can

01:41:16.240 --> 01:41:21.440
stock enough because the store itself was only ever supposed to be just like a store front for

01:41:21.440 --> 01:41:26.960
like a handful of items just in case people forget it. But people are coming in like all the time.

01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:30.800
Like, oh, I don't know. Is this a store? Like can I buy badminton shoes?

01:41:30.800 --> 01:41:34.480
And we're like, oh, I guess. Sure. It's like it's kind of crazy.

01:41:34.480 --> 01:41:37.920
It is a relatively large and actually pretty nice store.

01:41:38.480 --> 01:41:41.920
You ignore the entire rest of it. Like it's blowing my mind, man.

01:41:41.920 --> 01:41:49.120
It's it seems pretty clean. It's well lit. I also felt I also felt pretty good when someone who works on like store flow layout

01:41:49.120 --> 01:41:52.080
and design came in and was like, oh, this is like a really good layout because

01:41:52.640 --> 01:41:56.000
you force everybody to walk through the retail store when they come in

01:41:56.560 --> 01:42:00.080
and walk through the retail store and exit the gift shop when they leave.

01:42:01.040 --> 01:42:04.000
This is actually like really good. Yvonne and I. When is the key session going to be up?

01:42:05.520 --> 01:42:14.080
It's complicated. Oh, is there like licensing or something? So there's a whole there's certifications that you need in order to in order to literally like

01:42:14.080 --> 01:42:21.840
microwave a hot pocket. We have to have certifications. We have to have like two sinks that are separated for some purpose and some other purpose.

01:42:21.840 --> 01:42:25.680
Basically, we just like put a small kitchen in it and assumed that our like general contractor

01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:29.680
would tell us if we hadn't like done it right. And we need a whole bunch more ventilation.

01:42:29.680 --> 01:42:36.880
We're going to do it. I think we're going to. So when we pull permit for that, we're probably going to pull permit for adding some more showers

01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:40.880
at the back. And I think those will be premium member only showers because right now there's only the

01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:45.520
one shower in each bathroom because most of the other badminton centers that I've played at

01:42:46.160 --> 01:42:53.680
all the players just like go home and shower. And what people said to me was, well, yeah, if you see in the state of those showers,

01:42:53.680 --> 01:42:56.560
wouldn't you do that? And I'm like, yeah, I don't shower there either because they're

01:42:56.880 --> 01:43:00.480
I don't want to name any names now that we're kind of competitors.

01:43:00.480 --> 01:43:05.120
So I've been in at least one badminton center at one point where I didn't use the shower

01:43:05.120 --> 01:43:08.320
because I thought it was not something I would want to use. And he's been in a lot of them.

01:43:08.320 --> 01:43:11.680
Yeah. And I've been really genuinely doesn't narrow it down at all.

01:43:11.680 --> 01:43:14.880
I've been to like four different ones with him. And that's yeah.

01:43:14.880 --> 01:43:18.720
Yeah. The point is that they were like, yeah, we'd use the showers here.

01:43:18.720 --> 01:43:22.320
And I was like, oh, that makes sense. So we're probably going to add some more showers.

01:43:22.320 --> 01:43:27.840
So when we pull permit for the showers, we'll do the concession at the same time.

01:43:27.840 --> 01:43:30.640
But anyway, the point is we have a plan for storage.

01:43:31.280 --> 01:43:36.400
So that's what I would like to achieve with whale land.

01:43:36.400 --> 01:43:42.640
You should add basic shower things to the store because the amount of times I go to the gym and people forgot their shower stuff

01:43:43.200 --> 01:43:49.920
is a lot. That's a good idea. Like little like travel little things of like shampoo or body wash and maybe a luth or whatever.

01:43:50.800 --> 01:43:53.120
Sure. I think it's a good idea. I think it's a good idea.

01:43:54.720 --> 01:43:58.720
So yeah, if you guys have ideas for what you guys want to see at whale land,

01:43:58.720 --> 01:44:04.160
we are super open to them. Please, how do people send this?

01:44:04.160 --> 01:44:08.720
You know what? Send what? Like their ideas. Leave a comment on the YouTube uploads.

01:44:08.720 --> 01:44:12.000
Does that work? You could make a forum thread. Oh yeah. Oh, we could make it.

01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:15.600
Dan, do you have time to make a forum thread or are your fingers on fire still?

01:44:15.600 --> 01:44:21.760
Probably not at the moment. But we could send that to a writer or something.

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01:44:55.440 --> 01:44:58.560
You need me to do Floatplane announcements? Okay, I could do that. Is that okay?

01:44:58.560 --> 01:45:02.000
Sure. Okay. Okay. Uh, secret shopper.

01:45:02.000 --> 01:45:05.200
Wait. Are we allowed to talk about this?

01:45:05.840 --> 01:45:08.560
I guess. I mean, it's in the dock. Holy s***.

01:45:09.120 --> 01:45:13.760
Secret shopper is back. Are you f***ing kidding me?

01:45:13.760 --> 01:45:15.440
Is secret shopper back?

01:45:17.120 --> 01:45:28.320
It is okay to talk about this. Yes. So we can never announce a new series of secret shopper until the, uh, until the previous,

01:45:28.880 --> 01:45:33.040
or until we've gotten as far as completing the tech support challenge.

01:45:33.040 --> 01:45:38.400
Once we've completed our tech support calls, there's nothing the participants can do anymore

01:45:38.400 --> 01:45:42.960
to, to, to change the outcome. So we have ordered the systems, we have unpacked the systems,

01:45:42.960 --> 01:45:48.960
and we have, um, created tech support challenges and contacted all of the companies.

01:45:48.960 --> 01:45:52.960
Secret shopper is back. The theme this year is, you know what? I'm not going to spoil it.

01:45:52.960 --> 01:45:56.480
I am going to play. I'm queued up. You have a queue? I have a queued up already.

01:45:56.480 --> 01:45:59.840
Okay. Who do you want? Dan? No, surprise.

01:45:59.840 --> 01:46:03.040
Yeah. If, if you've got a queued Luke, go for it. Oh, okay.

01:46:03.040 --> 01:46:05.680
Luke lap. Okay.

01:46:06.640 --> 01:46:09.920
Do they have audio? Yeah. Okay. Hold on. Go back. Go back. Go back. Start over.

01:46:09.920 --> 01:46:12.400
So the theme this year, if you guys haven't figured it out yet,

01:46:13.920 --> 01:46:17.440
Lylok Holmes and his trusty partner.

01:46:20.080 --> 01:46:20.880
Such a stretch.

01:46:25.280 --> 01:46:25.760
Gross.

01:46:29.280 --> 01:46:30.880
What? I thought it was me for a second.

01:46:43.440 --> 01:46:45.600
Oh, wait. It looks like it's, I'm dead. It does.

01:46:52.480 --> 01:46:56.880
That's it. That's all we can show. It's going to be a good one, boys.

01:46:56.880 --> 01:47:00.160
That's fantastic. Man, that side profile shot of ploof.

01:47:00.160 --> 01:47:03.920
I legit thought it was me. I actually kind of thought it was too.

01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:11.440
I was like, I don't remember doing this. Wow. So I'm really excited to, to get this started for you guys.

01:47:11.440 --> 01:47:16.240
There's a little more to that clip, but we'll leave it there. For those of you who haven't seen it before,

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Secret Shopper is a series where we anonymously purchase

01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:23.360
mid-range PCs from some of the top North American system integrators

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and evaluate them across a range of criteria. This year, we're going to be looking at iBuyPower, Dell, HP,

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Manegear, CyberPower, OriginPC, Lenovo and Starforge.

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This is a must read. Call to action, must read. The first episode drops April 17th on YouTube

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And the Floatplane train, Floatrain doesn't stop there.

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Sammy also visited Dennis's house to see how the purchases

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from his ultimate tech upgrade were holding up. Despite what many thought after watching his upgrade,

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he did not waste his money. With that said, he really needs to clean his PC.

01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:18.720
It has not been cleaned since then. Oh, and I'm apparently supposed to play this.

01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:22.560
Did the timestamp work? Oh, yeah, here we go. No, I just can't.

01:48:24.080 --> 01:48:26.240
This is not my priority to clean this PC.

01:48:27.120 --> 01:48:30.560
Linus, I need help! Linus! Oh, Kate.

01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:31.920
Oh, whoa.

01:48:33.920 --> 01:48:37.280
Oh, okay. That's pretty cute. That's pretty gross. Oh my god, look at here.

01:48:37.280 --> 01:48:39.920
It's like a little beach down here. Look at that.

01:48:41.040 --> 01:48:43.920
Okay. Well, anyway, thank you for that, Dennis.

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A beach of dust is rough. It is also today, the last day, to get merch created by the one

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and only, Sarabot, including the Floatplane exclusive.

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This is a Dorky Dinos design. It's great. Well, I have to move.

01:49:01.440 --> 01:49:06.320
There you go. That's all. Yeah, that's where we're at right now. I know, but I figured it out.

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Also, the content Cosmos, Artprint, and Streams with Sarah,

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Artprint number three.

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Okay, man, not this one. Okay.

01:49:19.600 --> 01:49:22.640
Until April 14th. Oh, no, that one is... What is this one?

01:49:22.640 --> 01:49:27.280
I forget. I think it's this. But in an Artprint, would it not be?

01:49:27.280 --> 01:49:30.400
I think so. Yeah, I think so. I'm not always uncertain, but I think so.

01:49:30.400 --> 01:49:34.320
Well, don't quote us on any of that. You could just order it and then see what you get.

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All right, Dan, what are we supposed to be doing? Span answers.

01:49:48.240 --> 01:49:50.160
Why don't we do one topic before we do sponsors?

01:49:51.360 --> 01:49:54.400
Okay, sure. Why do you bother asking me?

01:49:55.760 --> 01:50:00.160
He likes doing that. NVIDIA says, IDC, you fix it.

01:50:00.880 --> 01:50:05.440
After 32-bit FizzX turned out to be the RTX 5000 series's

01:50:05.440 --> 01:50:09.520
Kryptonite. Along with other things? Along with, well, along with Black Screams and

01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:12.800
Missing Robs and Melting Power Connectors and

01:50:12.800 --> 01:50:19.200
Pricing Note to Lunch. False promises. NVIDIA has opted to address the issue by making FizzX

01:50:19.200 --> 01:50:22.240
and Flo SDKs completely open source.

01:50:22.960 --> 01:50:26.800
It was already mostly open source, but for the GPU simulation.

01:50:26.800 --> 01:50:30.560
No, this is still cool. The good news is this should make it possible for modders

01:50:30.560 --> 01:50:33.840
to create wrappers for the new cards to play affected games

01:50:33.840 --> 01:50:40.320
without insane performance penalties. And maybe even add FizzX support to AMD and Intel cards,

01:50:40.320 --> 01:50:44.720
which is pretty cool. It may also allow for game devs to push what FizzX

01:50:44.720 --> 01:50:48.880
can do in their games. The bad news is it's going to be on the community

01:50:48.880 --> 01:50:52.480
to make any of this happen. Obviously, I would prefer that they would maintain it,

01:50:52.480 --> 01:50:56.000
but I will say this is what we've asked people to do

01:50:56.000 --> 01:51:00.560
when they abandoned something. And most companies don't do it, and they did do it.

01:51:00.560 --> 01:51:04.080
They did do it. They did do the thing, and we're going to have to give it

01:51:04.960 --> 01:51:06.080
one thumbs out of five.

01:51:08.400 --> 01:51:13.040
Okay. I still think it's cool that they did it. Yeah. A lot of companies would have just peer abandoned it.

01:51:13.040 --> 01:51:16.320
No, no, no, no. I only have one thumb. It was a joke. My only thumb out of...

01:51:16.320 --> 01:51:20.080
Oh, I thought we have four. Oh, three thumbs out of four.

01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:22.320
Nice. Right.

01:51:27.120 --> 01:51:29.840
We can include that and have six. Discussion question.

01:51:30.400 --> 01:51:33.680
Is this a good guy or lazy bum move?

01:51:35.040 --> 01:51:40.800
A good bum? I'm going to... I'm going to... Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I'm going to go on a bit of a limb here and go...

01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:44.400
What I suspect might be against a deucement of the audience and say, good guy.

01:51:44.400 --> 01:51:49.600
A lot of companies would just abandon this. PhysX has not been a primary thing for games

01:51:49.600 --> 01:51:53.760
for quite a while now. It's not going to sell any new games anytime soon.

01:51:53.760 --> 01:51:58.080
It's not going to sell any new games. They're still having to maintain it. Genuinely, a huge percentage of companies

01:51:58.080 --> 01:52:01.440
would have just dropped it. I was not surprised when they did it.

01:52:01.440 --> 01:52:03.360
Should they do the same thing for 3D vision?

01:52:04.480 --> 01:52:07.520
Yeah. If they're not going to use it, yeah, they should.

01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:09.680
They absolutely should.

01:52:12.080 --> 01:52:14.560
Yeah. All right. Dan, you want to be to do sponsors now?

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our design manager for Creator Warehouse. That was a lot of fun.

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Bridget and I never get to hang out, and that's actually one of my favorite things about AMD upgrades

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because we have so many really cool people here that I don't really get to work with day-to-day,

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and giving the audience a chance to get to know them

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and also getting a chance to spend some time with them

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is honestly my favorite thing about AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade.

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The next thing is, oh, talk about handheld gaming.

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Yeah, handheld gaming is great. More games are launching as Steam Deck verified than ever.

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More games are optimized and launching pre-optimized for handheld,

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and the AMD Ryzen Z2 Extreme is coming later this year.

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So now is a chance to get an upgrade for free.

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Okay, cool. They're giving one lucky winner. Okay, this is wild.

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to make your setup shine. Damn. Don't miss this giveaway.

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Absolutely sick. All right, what are we doing, Mr. Dan?

01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:42.080
Topic. Topic. More topics. One cable to rule them all.

01:55:42.640 --> 01:55:47.760
Whatever you want. This is wild. An alliance of over 50 companies in China

01:55:47.760 --> 01:55:52.720
has released the specs for a new cable that I found borderline hard to believe.

01:55:53.600 --> 01:55:56.880
The general purpose media interface, or GPMI.

01:55:56.880 --> 01:56:02.960
There are two different connector options. Type B, a proprietary connector with up to 192 gigabits

01:56:03.760 --> 01:56:09.120
and 480 watts. And Type C, compatible with USB Type C,

01:56:09.120 --> 01:56:14.560
with up to 96 gigabits and 240 watts. Both Type B and Type C will support 8K video,

01:56:14.560 --> 01:56:17.680
but apparently will lack 10 and 16K,

01:56:17.680 --> 01:56:22.240
which HDMI 2.1 supports, although who's using it?

01:56:22.960 --> 01:56:26.400
From Tom's hardware for comparison, then we have a little table here.

01:56:28.960 --> 01:56:34.400
Look at them numbers. Now, HDMI 2.2 is, I don't see it on here.

01:56:35.760 --> 01:56:39.040
That actually doubles HDMI 2.1's bandwidth

01:56:39.040 --> 01:56:45.920
to 96 gigabit per second. But even HDMI 2.2, I don't think does power.

01:56:46.720 --> 01:56:51.040
So GPMI being able to do- The 480 watts of power delivery

01:56:51.760 --> 01:56:55.920
is crazy. Yeah, you could power your monitor off your computer.

01:56:55.920 --> 01:56:58.640
Like just off your computer power supply. And it's like, why not?

01:56:59.200 --> 01:57:03.440
Yeah. I mean, that makes sense, sure. That's so sick. Could we just like have fewer cables?

01:57:04.640 --> 01:57:10.160
And the size of the cable, and the, you know, no big chunky adapter in the middle too.

01:57:10.160 --> 01:57:17.200
Like the cable management options here is are wild.

01:57:17.200 --> 01:57:21.680
Let me see if I can find the picture. I know Riley- Dude, you could power your monitor off your computer

01:57:21.680 --> 01:57:24.720
and daisy chain the power probably in some scenarios. Here we go.

01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:28.640
I'm keeping up articles and I can't find them. Riley has a-

01:57:28.640 --> 01:57:31.360
No, wait, that's not what the connector looks like. Is it, is that just a mock-up?

01:57:31.920 --> 01:57:36.240
I think that's just a mock-up. I think that is a mock-up, but I think it's like that.

01:57:36.240 --> 01:57:39.760
Yeah, that's just a wide USB-C. Yeah, but they described it as a USB-C

01:57:39.760 --> 01:57:44.720
that got like stretched out basically. I've seen that description in multiple places.

01:57:44.720 --> 01:57:47.920
So I think it is kind of supposed to look like that.

01:57:47.920 --> 01:57:52.160
Everyone else is just using images of like HDMI ports.

01:57:52.160 --> 01:57:55.920
And so, oh, here we go, here we go. Okay, GPMI type B.

01:58:00.800 --> 01:58:03.920
That sort of works? Sure, there you go. I don't know. Like kind of-

01:58:03.920 --> 01:58:07.680
Are we going to get like- There we go. Mini B and micro B. It reminded me a lot.

01:58:07.680 --> 01:58:10.880
And- Oh yeah, micro B comes back.

01:58:10.880 --> 01:58:12.400
Oh no, I'm going to lose it.

01:58:15.120 --> 01:58:19.680
I already saw two letters. It reminded me a lot of old Apple connectors.

01:58:20.560 --> 01:58:28.480
The wide-boy ones. Here's my question though. As good as this is, and I am all for higher-band with video interfaces.

01:58:28.480 --> 01:58:34.240
Like- Yeah. For real. Yeah. Like with OLED, having the fast-switching time that it does,

01:58:34.240 --> 01:58:37.680
man, drive-up them hurts. You know, give me smoother displays.

01:58:37.680 --> 01:58:44.960
Like I'm super into it. But the article that I actually read earlier today about HDMI 2.2

01:58:45.040 --> 01:58:50.000
basically was like, yeah, the appetite in the CE industry is not super high for more bandwidth.

01:58:51.280 --> 01:58:54.960
Given that the adoption of 8K is nothing, essentially.

01:58:55.520 --> 01:59:00.640
And realistically, do we need more than 144 hertz?

01:59:00.640 --> 01:59:05.440
Or what I think is about 144 is the maximum you can do on an HDMI 2.1 link.

01:59:05.440 --> 01:59:11.840
120 on most like AV receivers and stuff. Do most people need more than that given that they're running game consoles

01:59:11.840 --> 01:59:19.600
that can't drive more than that anyway? Like is there really a hunger for this that will drive industry adoption?

01:59:19.600 --> 01:59:27.920
Really? The USB-C compatible one still pushing 240 watts is cool.

01:59:29.200 --> 01:59:37.760
But that's still within USB-4. There's also a couple things kind of overlooked in the Tom's Hardware chart.

01:59:37.760 --> 01:59:41.120
Thunderbolt 5, for instance, has an asymmetric mode

01:59:41.120 --> 01:59:45.120
where it can operate at greater than 40 gigabit per second in one of the directions.

01:59:45.120 --> 01:59:50.320
And the idea there is that you're driving a bunch of displays off of the device,

01:59:50.320 --> 01:59:52.560
but you have less data coming back the other way.

01:59:53.520 --> 01:59:59.360
So there are a few things that are not 100% accounted for in the Tom's Hardware chart here.

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But even then, I guess my question is... That's why it's USB-C compatible.

02:00:04.560 --> 02:00:14.640
What's going to drive industry adoption of this? Because the connectors that ultimately win are the ones...

02:00:14.640 --> 02:00:20.960
Yeah, but I mean, you can't single-handedly... HDMI is, as far as I can tell, literally never going to change.

02:00:22.240 --> 02:00:26.800
Like honestly, like in the consumer electronics industry, IT industry, okay, maybe we could talk about that.

02:00:26.800 --> 02:00:31.680
Or like I could see a niche VR vendor or something pushing this or something.

02:00:31.760 --> 02:00:34.800
Like I could see... Here's a hot take.

02:00:34.800 --> 02:00:38.720
How many people are actually plugging things in with HDMI to their TV these days?

02:00:39.680 --> 02:00:42.800
Lots. Really? Yeah.

02:00:42.800 --> 02:00:48.240
I kind of doubt it. You think people are just running their smart TVOS and they're just using Netflix that way?

02:00:48.240 --> 02:00:52.080
I bet you that's most people. Anyone with a game console has to plug in via HDMI.

02:00:52.080 --> 02:00:56.720
A lot of people are going away from non-switch game consoles. Anyone with more devices than...

02:00:56.720 --> 02:01:01.920
There will probably also be adapters. Anyone with more devices than are supported is going to be using an AVR.

02:01:01.920 --> 02:01:05.920
And those are 1 billion percent using HDMI. I don't think that's that very many people.

02:01:05.920 --> 02:01:08.240
Anyone using a soundbar is using HDMI.

02:01:10.240 --> 02:01:13.680
HDMI is so entrenched. I mean, think about it.

02:01:13.680 --> 02:01:23.040
The soundbar argument might have me. HDMI charges for every port on your device and they still haven't walked away from it.

02:01:23.600 --> 02:01:27.520
DisplayPort was technologically superior for... I don't think a lot of people are getting those.

02:01:27.520 --> 02:01:33.200
Chromecast built into a lot of stuff. DisplayPort was superior in terms of bandwidth delivery for ages.

02:01:33.200 --> 02:01:36.880
HDMI did have some features that were better supported.

02:01:36.880 --> 02:01:45.920
I think deep color came first to HDMI. But I've been trying to figure out for years why they keep paying this HDMI license fee.

02:01:46.960 --> 02:01:49.680
And I think it's just because when you've got this level of momentum,

02:01:50.880 --> 02:01:57.040
you can't get away from this connector. And the fact that they've managed to keep it backward and forward compatible

02:01:57.760 --> 02:02:00.080
all these years, the ports, the cables...

02:02:00.880 --> 02:02:04.080
I mean, obviously you need a higher quality cable to run the new one.

02:02:04.080 --> 02:02:10.480
So it doesn't always work. But the fact that theoretically you could take an OGHDMI device,

02:02:10.480 --> 02:02:14.080
plug a brand new cable into it, and you're good to go. You can just buy that at the store.

02:02:14.080 --> 02:02:17.440
It's a commodity. The fact that you could take an ancient cable,

02:02:17.440 --> 02:02:23.520
and as long as the distance is short enough, you could conceivably run a brand new device linked with it.

02:02:23.520 --> 02:02:25.840
Like, it's admirable.

02:02:26.640 --> 02:02:31.600
It's a good thing. Like, think about how many cables were thrown away

02:02:31.600 --> 02:02:35.520
when we transitioned from composite to component, and then from component to HDMI.

02:02:35.520 --> 02:02:38.320
The fact that you can continue to reuse this stuff for so long.

02:02:39.040 --> 02:02:45.520
I don't know. HDMI, it's going to be tough to replace.

02:02:45.600 --> 02:02:50.640
I mean, yeah. Maybe I've talked to myself out of GPMI.

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I wish them luck because I want more bandwidth. Give me more bandwidth.

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Give me power delivery. Chinese TV manufacturing is doing a very similar thing

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that Chinese vehicle manufacturing is doing.

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And they could just sort of force this.

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I do actually... The soundbar's argument was interesting.

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Some people have brought up that some soundbars can connect over Wi-Fi or Bluetooth.

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But the soundbar argument is interesting. I honestly think... At most, over Bluetooth.

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Sorry, it's not happening. The audience watching this and you might be skewed

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towards more people having devices to put into their TVs

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than you think is necessarily average. But then here's my question.

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I promise you over the last four or five years, the amount of people plugging things into their TV

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with HDMI has decreased. Sure. But then that actually kind of feeds into my argument

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for why we shouldn't bother to transition the industry

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to this new connector whose only benefit is higher bandwidth, more resolution.

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Yeah, that's kind of fair. So it's doubly unnecessary then

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if nobody's putting anything into the TV. I definitely don't think it's necessary, but I think it might be China wanting to own

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like a cable interface standard.

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I mean, that's fair enough, but they need buy-in from the entire world.

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All the other devices. Essentially. Yeah. Because if you, all of a sudden,

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you're Ankyo or Denon or whatever and your AVR receiver,

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I know that's an ATM machine thing, but I'm just going to say that.

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So your AVR receiver, it has to have like a different version

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with like a modular like IO thing for the China market.

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You're just like, oh my God. No. I don't think it's the China market though.

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So you think they're just going to try and like push this world? How though?

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It might have to be a mix of connectors. I mean, right now we have DisplayPort and HDMI.

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Not on an AVR? No, I'm staying on the TV.

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Oh, not on a TV?

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Almost, other than commercial displays,

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I can't think of a single TV that has DisplayPort in.

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In fact, I can't even think of a single TV off the top of my head that has like a USB-C

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with that supports like DisplayPort alt mode. Like it's just not a thing.

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There's a lot that have standard USB, but not for display. HDMI is universal in AV.

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I don't think that means it can never be taken over.

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Especially when you have TCL coming in swinging like they are.

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I think they could use TCL to force this out. And I suspect that might actually be the strategy.

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I think that would just literally destroy TCL's sales.

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I don't necessarily think so.

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They eat the cost of like the dongle breakouts

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and they make it like HDMI signal compatible or something,

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but they'd have to work with the HDMI forum or consortium or whatever they're called.

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Is it a forum? I think it's a forum. They'd have to work with the HDMI forum on that,

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unless they like just reverse engineered it.

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It just doesn't seem plausible right now,

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but I could be wrong. I could be wrong. I mean, I thought DVI was great

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and didn't need to go anywhere and that went away.

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I liked DVI as well. I liked chunky connectors. We'll see as well, like they announced the standard.

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That doesn't mean it's anywhere near ready for market.

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So it could be quite a while till we see what happens. G. Koons says you could power peripherals from the TV.

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Yeah, you could, but you could already do that because your TV's plugged into the wall

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and you're not going to be powering. Actually, yeah, you could power a pretty decent power TV,

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but like here's the thing. Why? Because now you have to put like an over spec power supply

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inside whatever device that's going to be powering the TV.

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Why do you want to do that? You're just taking a cost that could be in the TV

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and that would be right sized for the TV

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and then you have to like over spec it because you have no idea what kind of TV

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someone's going to plug into it into the AV receiver.

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Why are we doing this? That I think makes sense for computers. Like you're saying, be able to power your monitor

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or whatever would be pretty sweet. Yeah, but like, do you want, do you want to have to buy an AV receiver

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that has a 2000 watt power supply just in case it has to power a PlayStation 6

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and an Xbox, you know, series, whatever they call it

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and your TV like, no. Especially when like the cable management system

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of home theater setups is like the most solved one that exists.

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Yeah. Yeah. I just don't really see the point.

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GK Gikun says the other way. Like it doesn't matter.

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Either way, either way, you're putting an oversized power supply in something

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and then you're going DC power out to all the other connected.

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Why? Just plug them all in. Okay. So I just want to,

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because there's a bunch of people that have been saying a very similar thing and I want to try to explain my argument a little bit better.

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Zach 3323 said, I got to disagree with Luke. My parents and grandparents use HDMI

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because it's what their old TVs have now. There are a ton of dumb TVs people buy Chromecast for.

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Wi-Fi connection for things like soundbars is relatively new.

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Totally. What I'm talking about is new TVs,

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not old TVs. Yeah. These would be new TVs that are being sold.

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It, the, I don't think there's a huge argument for a need for this.

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I think the argument for this would be that China wants to own a cable connection standard.

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They came up with GPMI and they could push it. They could push it through TCL.

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That would be new TVs, not old TVs. Yep.

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And these TCL TVs, they could include things like Chromecast.

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They could include things like that, where it would be.

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But they'd have to collaborate with Google for that. So good luck. Or they'll have some form of casting solution

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of their own and just not care, which sounds probably more likely.

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But I'm, I am not talking about this somehow working for your old TVs that has genuinely nothing to do

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with the conversation or the argument whatsoever. And I've seen a bunch of comments about that.

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So it's, I could very likely be wrong. I think it's an interesting angle to take,

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so I'm just sticking with it. But yeah, that's where I'm at.

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No, I mean, I'm saying I could be wrong,

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but I'm, I'm, I'm decently confident in that take.

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I think it's pretty easy to shift people over to Bluetooth

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for soundbars. I think the people with consoles are overestimating

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how many of them there are, and the ability to have an adapter,

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or they're underestimating the ability to have an adapter. And I really think the techie audience that we have

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is underestimating the amount of people that just buy a TV and just use the TV as is.

02:09:22.160 --> 02:09:30.080
In what looks like an April Fool's joke, Kawasaki of all companies has unveiled the Corleo,

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a rideable robot horse that the Japanese motomaker says

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is actually coming sometime after 2050.

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Is that a typo? Is that, is that date right?

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Anyway, do you want to watch this? Yeah, sure. It's only about a minute long and realistically,

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I don't think, I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it yet. Realistically, I don't think Kawasaki is gonna copyright

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strike us here, so. They might. They might. I mean, we've seen dumber stuff.

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Japanese brand. What? Okay, this is just CG.

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Well, yeah. Well, I don't know. I thought they might have a prototype.

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No. Not when it's coming in 2050.

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Okay, well, I thought it would be. Okay, well, this is just stupid then.

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It's, it's so funny how similar that is to the,

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the Pokemon Go April Fool's thing. Yeah.

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Okay. I still like the. I'm disappointed that it's completely CG.

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They don't even have like a proof of concept. I expected it to be like, like slow or something.

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You know, like kind of. Whip one of those. But like doing something.

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No. Well, this. Some brand went, wouldn't it be cool if we did something 25

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years from now? That'd be sick. Yeah.

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They say it will be powered by a 150 cc hydrogen engine,

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have rubber hooves to handle terrain like grasslands, rocky areas and rubble fields and controls that function

02:10:53.040 --> 02:10:56.560
similar to riding an actual horse. I'll believe it when I see it. Okay.

02:10:56.560 --> 02:11:03.040
Dire wolves are so not back colossal biosciences.

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The genetic engineering company for people who drink monster energy claimed to have achieved the world's first

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de extinction in the form of living dire wolf pups

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named Romulus Remus, the mythical founders of Rome and Khaleesi.

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The news made the cover of time and Game of Thrones creator George R.R. Martin posted a photo of himself holding one of

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the pups. There is some actually cool stuff here.

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Colossal managed to extract DNA from 72,000 year old dire

02:11:32.400 --> 02:11:36.640
wolf fossils, identified dire wolfish traits and edited the

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genome of gray wolf embryos to emulate those traits. Of course, that means the pups are not dire wolves,

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but they are modified gray wolves that look pretty much exactly like an Arctic wolf.

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And our source is arcticwolf.png.

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Yep, that's an Arctic wolf, all right. Cool.

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The best available evidence also indicates that dire wolves were not actually wolves, and they were more closely

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related to coyotes, African wild dogs, and what the heck are

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D-holes?

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It's definitely not how you pronounce it, but. Doles?

02:12:12.560 --> 02:12:14.880
It's got to be. There's no way it's D-hole.

02:12:17.440 --> 02:12:20.560
Oh, it bit me.

02:12:20.560 --> 02:12:22.880
What a D-hole. You're going to name that.

02:12:24.640 --> 02:12:28.720
What's that fish? Like stupid-headed fish, whatever it's called.

02:12:33.280 --> 02:12:39.600
Dumb head or something. Let me try to find it. You've got to be kidding me. Um, dumb gulper shark is one of them, but that's not the

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one I'm talking about.

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Yeah, yeah, that's it. Let me look it up.

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Really?

02:12:59.040 --> 02:12:59.760
Oh, no.

02:13:04.400 --> 02:13:06.080
What a name, dude.

02:13:09.600 --> 02:13:14.720
That sucks. Okay, so let's talk about the, let's talk about the but why,

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though. Colossal says that their work can restore niches in the

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ecosystem that vanished when animals went extinct.

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But the part that we appear to be overlooking is that none of that helps when the dire wolves prey, large herbivores like

02:13:27.680 --> 02:13:31.600
wild horses, ground sloths, and mastodons are also off the

02:13:31.600 --> 02:13:35.520
market. Colossal is doing actual conservation work, helping to

02:13:35.520 --> 02:13:40.960
restore less flashy species like red wolves, which are heavily endangered, but that doesn't get one on magazine

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covers and it doesn't get one investment. So our discussion question is, noble lies.

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Are we for them or against them? Against.

02:13:50.160 --> 02:13:53.600
Okay, cool. That was a quick conversation. What's next?

02:13:54.320 --> 02:13:57.840
Yeah, uh, the next topic, I think, which I think is the

02:13:57.840 --> 02:14:00.420
last one. No, it's not. Nope.

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Any, any, my emo. XT, let's do the XT. All right, let's do the XT.

02:14:05.600 --> 02:14:09.040
Turns out the XT was inside of all of us all along.

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Okay, that was not supposed to be quite so sensual, but do go on. It was.

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BIOS modding the 90 70 members of the PC games

02:14:16.560 --> 02:14:21.200
hardware forums were successful at flashing a 90 70

02:14:21.200 --> 02:14:24.560
with the BIOS of its superior XT sibling, allowing the

02:14:24.560 --> 02:14:28.560
lesser GPU to run at much higher clock speeds and much higher voltage.

02:14:28.560 --> 02:14:31.040
We're back baby. We used to do this kind of stuff back in the day.

02:14:31.600 --> 02:14:35.120
Modders were able to get 15 to 20% higher scores in

02:14:35.120 --> 02:14:39.360
3D mark over the stock 90 70 with the unlocked BIOS.

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Naturally, this modification has its limitations. For example, it can't make up for the missing GPU

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course, and it also prevents the card from idling properly.

02:14:47.600 --> 02:14:51.360
And apparently there are some crashes. It says crashes aplenty.

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I've read that some users are not running into crashes and other users are personally.

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That's what I've read usually makes sense when you're unlocking any kind of anything.

02:15:00.080 --> 02:15:04.080
Yeah, because it's going to depend on your card. So the the crashes aplenty here is probably that

02:15:04.080 --> 02:15:08.000
that's happening to a lot of users, but there is still a chance that you could get lucky and have a

02:15:08.000 --> 02:15:10.480
good card. I don't know if there's a way to detect with

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binning or anything at this time. I have no idea. I doubt it.

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I doubt it as well. Not to mention that if you do this on a card with a

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dual BIOS, you end up getting a brick.

02:15:22.800 --> 02:15:27.280
Without dual BIOS. Without right. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, because dual BIOS cards you can just flip back

02:15:27.280 --> 02:15:32.720
to your original BIOS and if if you don't have that option, it could be potentially challenging.

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Yeah, this is not the first time this has been possible on an AMD card.

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It sure isn't. You could do this with the 6950 to 6970.

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The Vega 56 to 64 and the 5700 to the 5700 X.

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It also used to be possible on NVIDIA cards. There was a what was that card all copper MSI.

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I want to say it was a 470. Wasn't there more cards in this? I thought the the 290 or something had something

02:15:56.960 --> 02:16:00.320
going on with this as well. There's been there's been more than just those

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ones listed. I'm fairly certain. This was a really cool card.

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MSI had like like a weird all copper cooler twin

02:16:08.160 --> 02:16:13.920
freezer GTX 465, many of which could be they were numbered.

02:16:13.920 --> 02:16:18.320
It was a limited edition and video needed to just like get rid of some GPUs back when they were like

02:16:19.040 --> 02:16:25.600
kind of cool and cowboy. And so they they were 470s that didn't make the cut,

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but some of them had all the functional units and just were like they didn't meet the power profile or whatever.

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And so MSI sold them as 465s and a lot of them could be flashed to 470 and they had this super

02:16:36.480 --> 02:16:40.800
spanky cooler. That's cool. It looks sick. Yeah. Bring back cards that look like that.

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Our discussion question is would you recommend this? My answer is honestly probably no.

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If you have a dual BIOS and you want to have some fun. Nothing to lose.

02:16:48.960 --> 02:16:50.720
Yeah. Yeah. Go for it. Without it.

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Little sketch unless you're willing to just like write the card off basically.

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I wouldn't. We need your help on a video.

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Source one is for this is the need for more positivity in my life.

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We're a little sick of the doom and gloom. We're not saying the doom and gloom isn't warranted.

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We're just saying we're sick of it. And we want to make a video highlighting some of your

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positive moves or some of the positive moves that

02:17:18.080 --> 02:17:21.440
traditionally greedy companies have made in the tech space.

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And we need your help to find the best examples. Some examples we came up with include the open sourcing

02:17:27.360 --> 02:17:32.080
of the command and conquer games by EA. Windows Defender making antivirus subscriptions

02:17:32.080 --> 02:17:38.480
mostly a thing of the past and Microsoft's accessibility initiatives especially their Xbox controller.

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Controllers. They have multiple accessibility controllers now. Let us know your favorite positive examples in the chat

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or by sending an email. Wow.

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Let's go with maybe not that email.

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What's a better way to do this. Oh wait Dan can't create form threats right now.

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Um you do it. You know what someone on the subreddit make a thread

02:18:05.680 --> 02:18:10.160
and add things to that. I can work on getting logged in. Why don't we do that for no someone will do it.

02:18:10.160 --> 02:18:13.280
They'll be done by the time you. But there's going to be like a trillion of them.

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Um that's not my problem whichever one is the one that wins is the one.

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Sorry for a mods. No not the forum they're for subreddit.

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Oh yeah I don't know we don't care about them do we.

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Well the well they're unofficial. Reddit will kind of sort itself out with upvotes.

02:18:30.400 --> 02:18:35.440
Exactly. So it'll probably be okay. Yeah it should be fine. If you post on the one that doesn't win just migrate it over.

02:18:35.440 --> 02:18:42.000
Yeah yeah do that. Anywho so yeah we should do that for ideas for gaming experiences at WhaleLand too.

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Yeah so if you have things that you'd like want to try like I don't know I think it'd be cool to

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have like a crt versus OLED like retro game station.

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Someone with the Linus account added you and said I'll make a forum post.

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That's not how we do that.

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That is not how we do that. That is really not how we do that.

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You are not supposed to do that. I'm going to change the password.

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Okay anyway.

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Our discussion question is can you think of any good guy moves but I think we're just going to save it for the video.

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We'll let you guys we'll let you guys kind of dump them in there. Let's go for Reddit karma fight says Fabian.

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Elijah signed into your own account for crying out loud or I won't say tomorrow's video he

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probably just forgot. Or I won't invite you to play tape to tape alpha.

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When is it coming? I don't know. They posted it the reason why I messaged you was they posted an announcement.

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I know and I read it as like this is available now.

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I know they're being even with like the alpha invitees they're being supremely

02:19:44.320 --> 02:19:49.040
cocked easy about it. Yeah. But basically this like sounds so cool hockey

02:19:49.040 --> 02:19:53.360
rogue super violent hockey rogue light game that we've been really enjoying over the last

02:19:53.360 --> 02:19:58.880
little bit. It has their like their like alpha 2.0 coming very soon.

02:19:58.880 --> 02:20:03.120
I've got an invite and it like dramatically expands the campaign.

02:20:03.120 --> 02:20:08.080
There's now like branching pass that you can take. I think they've added like fighting and a whole bunch of stuff.

02:20:08.080 --> 02:20:14.080
Nodes as far as my understanding goes. And they've they've nerfed a bunch of the stuff that like we acknowledged was broken.

02:20:14.080 --> 02:20:19.120
Like the spiked armor spiked armor makes it so that anyone who tries to body check you

02:20:19.120 --> 02:20:22.480
gets body checked themselves and you just like shrug it off.

02:20:22.480 --> 02:20:28.000
Just kind of dumb. So now it'll be like the dragon show where it will both of you will be hit.

02:20:28.560 --> 02:20:33.520
Okay. So there's a sacrificial element to it. If you were going to be hit and now the other guys also hit sounds good.

02:20:33.520 --> 02:20:38.480
Then now you're both hit. Sure. So there's sounds more and they're nerfing head redirect and like a bunch of other

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stuff. I don't know how they're going to nerf it. I think they just need to remove it from the game.

02:20:42.240 --> 02:20:45.360
I will see. We'll see. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.

02:20:47.360 --> 02:20:52.400
Because even when it was completely functionally broken, it was still overpowered.

02:20:52.400 --> 02:20:55.840
Dan, are you still not caught up?

02:20:57.360 --> 02:20:59.520
Good lord. Check the stats.

02:21:01.200 --> 02:21:04.560
It's slowing down. You're doing a great job. You're doing a great job, sir.

02:21:05.120 --> 02:21:11.840
It's only been two hours. And the reason that he needs to do a great job is because we don't want you guys to get

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caught in the upcoming shipstorm. We're doing free shipping on all orders over $150 US dollars right now on LTTstore.com.

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Just head to LTTstore.com. Click shop now and you will find, oh my goodness, is that the MCM essential solution for just $79.99

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US dollars? You're going to want to get yourself one of those. And hey, to make sure that you reach that $150 free worldwide shipping threshold,

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check out the commuter backpack, maybe a precision multi bit screwdriver bit set,

02:21:40.160 --> 02:21:44.960
regular screwdriver, a stubby screwdriver that is totally adequately long enough,

02:21:44.960 --> 02:21:51.920
a regular backpack, a laptop bag, a tech sack. Oh, we got more magnetic cable management, a scribe driver, bolt action pen,

02:21:51.920 --> 02:21:55.600
insulated water bottle, a Northern Lights desk pad available in any size you want,

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as long as it's whatever size you want at the same price. Lots of other different mouse pads, desk pads.

02:22:01.120 --> 02:22:05.120
We've got the hooded task jacket, our blank t-shirts, green saver party shirt.

02:22:05.120 --> 02:22:08.480
Whoa, look how cool these guys are. Love it.

02:22:09.040 --> 02:22:12.160
Lots of other apparel that you guys can check out. Oh, yeah, floppy disk notebook.

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These are our top sellers, by the way. There are also other things on the store.

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You could also buy like home, hold on.

02:22:18.800 --> 02:22:24.000
Oh, all products. Where's just all products?

02:22:24.000 --> 02:22:27.120
There's an all products, right? Oh, yeah. Dude, there's so much stuff.

02:22:27.120 --> 02:22:29.280
Oh, are we out of stock of this again? Oh, that thing is so cool.

02:22:30.160 --> 02:22:36.800
We all have a rain cover for the original backpack. We got that. We got a WAN cork board, which you can put stuff and things on.

02:22:36.800 --> 02:22:42.480
Oh, the notebook is really nice. Sarah was heavily involved in the design and implementation of that.

02:22:42.480 --> 02:22:46.480
Stick logs. Dude, I've been traveling with a controller lately.

02:22:47.040 --> 02:22:49.760
Stick logs. Good stuff. Lock your sticks.

02:22:51.040 --> 02:22:54.000
Okay, PTM7950 is out of stock, darn it. What else we got?

02:22:56.000 --> 02:23:02.880
Oh, good. That sold out. Screwdriver shaft extension. Hey, that's a good way to pad your cart for another 10 bucks if you need to extend your shaft.

02:23:04.560 --> 02:23:07.600
I'm just saying. I'm just saying. We have our shape-sorter toy.

02:23:07.600 --> 02:23:13.040
If you've got someone who knows who's having a baby or just had a baby and you need a little gift-a-roo,

02:23:13.040 --> 02:23:17.440
it's very carefully engineered to make sure that they don't go in the wrong holes.

02:23:17.440 --> 02:23:21.920
And it's all tech-themed, which is pretty cool. I think there's one or two that do go in the wrong holes, but they're hard.

02:23:21.920 --> 02:23:25.200
They're hard to do. I remember quickly it's one and you have to really line it up. Pajama pants.

02:23:26.480 --> 02:23:30.400
What else we got? Oh, look at the... Oh, no, the ABC plush characters are sold out.

02:23:30.400 --> 02:23:33.440
Don't forget to... You can load up on gift cards. That's a thing you can do.

02:23:33.440 --> 02:23:36.480
ABC's of gaming. Ever popular. Very well reviewed.

02:23:36.480 --> 02:23:39.600
All right, cool. I think that's... I think that's it. Manor Star has a lot of stuff on it.

02:23:39.600 --> 02:23:43.280
I haven't actually looked at reviews of ABC's of gaming in a while. Look at this.

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Look at this. Can anything... Can anything be that universally loved?

02:23:48.880 --> 02:23:52.080
Okay, what is this one-star review? Let's see. Let's see.

02:23:53.120 --> 02:23:55.920
Still waiting to receive it. Okay, so someone didn't get it.

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That's the only thing that you could not love about the ABC's of gaming boardbook.

02:24:01.120 --> 02:24:04.480
So if you know anyone who's having a baby and they're a gamer, this is a...

02:24:04.480 --> 02:24:06.400
This is a great little... Great little gift item.

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The QA team can't catch them all. The silly horse is in a wall.

02:24:14.240 --> 02:24:16.560
I will say... That is a silly horse. This is still...

02:24:18.960 --> 02:24:23.760
Still. Wow. And we even pointed out that it was like that, and no one even trolled it.

02:24:23.760 --> 02:24:27.280
Kind of ruined it. It's a good video. It is a good video. You should go check it out.

02:24:27.280 --> 02:24:29.200
All right. Okay, we're done chilling now, Dan.

02:24:30.560 --> 02:24:33.200
Okay. Do you have any more topics? For now.

02:24:34.240 --> 02:24:38.080
Yeah, for now. For now. Sounds like a threat.

02:24:38.080 --> 02:24:40.240
What does merch message ascended mean?

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Curated. Oh, okay. Wow, you only curated nine?

02:24:47.280 --> 02:24:51.360
Wow, you're ruthless today. Yeah. It's like you want to go home and sleep or something.

02:24:51.360 --> 02:24:54.240
He's had to deal with... I don't do that. He's had to deal with air table.

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Say that word in public. Shut your mouth.

02:24:58.960 --> 02:25:03.840
So he comes here and just like... Something that's not air table.

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I don't have to think. Oh, I cry myself to sleep.

02:25:11.200 --> 02:25:15.920
I guess you want to switch after dark. Is that why you're antagonizing me about my job skills?

02:25:17.280 --> 02:25:20.560
I'm not trying to antagonize you. I'm just asking if you're going to do your job.

02:25:20.560 --> 02:25:22.240
Well, what you don't say, Linus.

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Look, I got a lot of stuff to sell here.

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Have I mentioned, by the way, on LTTstore.com, we're doing the Shipstorm Sale event.

02:25:35.600 --> 02:25:38.960
You can get this great hoodie that's probably not going to be able

02:25:38.960 --> 02:25:42.720
to be manufactured domestically ever again. Oh, dude.

02:25:42.720 --> 02:25:46.160
Impossible. That would be like... Oh my God.

02:25:46.160 --> 02:25:48.640
It would be like a $500 plus hoodie. Easy.

02:25:49.200 --> 02:25:55.680
Like, easy. And people were already like outraged that we would have the audacity

02:25:55.680 --> 02:26:01.920
to sell a $150 hoodie. It's like you do realize the entire thing is embroidered, right?

02:26:02.240 --> 02:26:05.920
That is not a print. That is flipping expensive.

02:26:05.920 --> 02:26:08.960
Internal, too. Yeah. Yeah, it goes all the way through.

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It's not like reversible or anything like that. I don't want to misrepresent it.

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It's meant to be viewed from the outside, but yes, it goes all the way through.

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Like your skin. Okay. Thank you, Dan.

02:26:20.960 --> 02:26:24.880
Let's put him away. Okay. What do you got for us? Too much expulsion.

02:26:27.600 --> 02:26:30.960
I've been outside twice this week. It's not good for me.

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Linus, you make such a big deal about finding stuff from the office

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at the tech makeovers. Is that just for the lulls?

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Or are you legitimately calling out your people?

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He's livid. Why not both? He's livid.

02:26:45.440 --> 02:26:51.120
I definitely... There are definitely cases where people really aren't supposed to have stuff,

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and I really do find stuff that they're really not supposed to have, and they really do need to bring it back.

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But in general, I don't think that I am a particularly draconian

02:27:00.400 --> 02:27:05.440
Nazi-like company owner. And if the occasional cable that...

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Especially because a lot of the time it's with people who kind of need to have stuff

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at their house to do stuff off hours or whatever else.

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Like if... Or that they brought home for a work from home station,

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they just kind of forgot about it. I'm not the kind of person that's going to be like,

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that's a citation. We can have a friendly conversation about how,

02:27:24.160 --> 02:27:27.680
oh, actually we updated that policy, and you actually aren't really allowed to do that anymore,

02:27:27.680 --> 02:27:34.880
and that's fine. And in the case of, I think Bridget actually probably broke the record for the most things.

02:27:34.880 --> 02:27:41.600
I mean, that makes sense though. I mean, because she seems like such a thefty person or...

02:27:41.600 --> 02:27:46.400
No, that's her job. Because she's the head of fashion, and so as part of her job,

02:27:46.400 --> 02:27:51.840
she actually brings home for feedback, and we're testing any long-term evaluation,

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a lot of CW product. Which you want her to do. And I even told her this.

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I don't think it made it to on camera, but honestly, I would have been more disappointed in her if she and her husband

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didn't wear our merchandise. Like, I don't think you should force all the executives at Ford to drive Fords.

02:28:09.280 --> 02:28:15.200
Ideally, you should be proud of what you made. But you'd be pretty damn excited if they chose to drive Fords.

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Was that a specific reference? Because the CEO doesn't drive a Ford? I don't know.

02:28:18.320 --> 02:28:22.240
No, he doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. He drives some Chinese maker.

02:28:22.240 --> 02:28:28.320
I don't remember which one. Yeah. So that's the thing, is if our products should be good enough,

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that our everyone from our CEO to literally the person who just started their first day

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should be proud and comfortable to wear them.

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And anything other than that is not good enough. So yeah, no, I told her.

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I would have been much more upset if she hadn't taken anything.

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She has one of the Luxe backpack prototypes in a different color.

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And she was like, I can justify this. I can justify this.

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You took one. Yvonne took one. And I took one for long-term testing.

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I'm not done testing it.

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She's a hoot, Brigitte. Long-form Apple leather tester, whatever.

02:29:07.760 --> 02:29:12.240
Nice. All right. What else you got for me, Dan?

02:29:12.240 --> 02:29:16.160
Why can't the free shipping be rounded or just let me round up?

02:29:16.160 --> 02:29:19.200
Everything is X99, so I ended up four cents short.

02:29:19.200 --> 02:29:24.160
So I dropped one order, then picked another, and then I was 10-0 for short.

02:29:24.960 --> 02:29:27.520
Whatever. Covers. I'll explain it.

02:29:28.320 --> 02:29:31.600
Capitalism. I'll explain it. Current year.

02:29:33.920 --> 02:29:40.080
Because I really need to not lose money egregiously on every transaction.

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God, you really are a bad person. I know. I know.

02:29:44.320 --> 02:29:48.400
I know. I have to pay people like Brigitte. I have to pay.

02:29:48.800 --> 02:29:53.520
We can blame Brigitte because she's stealing all of your stuff. She's just eating into your bottom line.

02:29:53.520 --> 02:29:58.000
It's true. Yeah. Do you have any idea how much a sample costs compared to the mass production?

02:29:58.000 --> 02:30:03.440
Oh, my God. Dude, not a joke. Because so much of my wardrobe is early samples,

02:30:03.440 --> 02:30:05.440
like the cargo pants I'm wearing right now. Check this out.

02:30:07.120 --> 02:30:07.440
Hold on.

02:30:11.360 --> 02:30:14.800
Here. Yeah. Okay, watch this. One bottle is in the way.

02:30:14.800 --> 02:30:18.320
Okay, so we got balls. LTTstore.com.

02:30:18.960 --> 02:30:24.480
Okay, so I got my phone in here. Okay, so normally, right, I should be able to pull my phone out like this, right?

02:30:24.480 --> 02:30:25.680
Okay, but watch this. Watch this.

02:30:30.320 --> 02:30:37.680
See my phone? Yeah. This one doesn't have the pocket bag sewn properly.

02:30:39.520 --> 02:30:44.560
That's the kind of stuff that we... I sometimes like travel. That's the kind of stuff that we catch on pre-production stuff.

02:30:44.560 --> 02:30:51.520
And because I wear test it myself, IA have the pleasure of making sure it doesn't make it to

02:30:51.520 --> 02:30:56.800
the finished product for you. And B, have the displeasure of because I don't like wasting and throwing things away,

02:30:57.360 --> 02:31:04.480
continuing to have to deal with forever. Part of the whole joke is the biggest dealer of company property is Linus.

02:31:05.120 --> 02:31:11.040
Oh, it's not even close. Yeah, yeah. It's not even close. That's part of the whole thing is that it's, yeah.

02:31:11.040 --> 02:31:17.440
I think I've caught a few moments when watching those, when I see an actual amount of like,

02:31:17.440 --> 02:31:20.800
what the heck, but usually you're just playing around. It happens.

02:31:20.800 --> 02:31:31.680
That's why I said it's a little bit of both. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, so these cargo pants, it's so funny because I dress like just...

02:31:31.680 --> 02:31:34.720
It's not theft if you owns the company. Actually it is. It actually is.

02:31:34.720 --> 02:31:38.400
Oh, yeah. I dress like a just rando gamer bro for the most part.

02:31:38.400 --> 02:31:42.480
I wear t-shirts, hoodies. You know, like, this is me.

02:31:42.480 --> 02:31:45.120
This is me. This is how I dress regardless of whether I worked here.

02:31:47.200 --> 02:31:50.960
But in terms of how much my wardrobe actually cost...

02:31:52.320 --> 02:32:01.600
Oh, absurd. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I could be buying all the designer labels because most of my stuff is like one-offs, essentially.

02:32:01.600 --> 02:32:05.760
You're wearing a $10,000 pair of pants. They're not even like sewn properly.

02:32:05.920 --> 02:32:09.040
Not that much. Not that much, but hundreds of dollars.

02:32:09.040 --> 02:32:16.640
But a lot, a lot. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you have the pants and the socks and I don't know, maybe some footwear someday or something...

02:32:16.640 --> 02:32:20.080
This is why you walk into Tiffany and clothes you made yourself, right?

02:32:20.720 --> 02:32:23.920
All of my clothes are bespoke, you know?

02:32:25.040 --> 02:32:27.920
Oh, right? Yeah. Man's a baller.

02:32:28.560 --> 02:32:34.320
It's hilarious though because I literally can be standing next to someone who's wearing the

02:32:34.320 --> 02:32:39.920
exact same clothing as me, but mine cost five to ten times as much.

02:32:39.920 --> 02:32:44.800
And might be worse. Which if you think about it, which if you think about it is kind of the whole thing, right?

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Like people will buy that stupid plain white t-shirt for $300 or whatever just so that they

02:32:49.600 --> 02:32:55.280
can know they did. So I'm like the stealthiest high-end clothing wearer of all time.

02:32:55.280 --> 02:32:59.440
You're a fashion, bro. Apparently, apparently. A street wear icon, one would say.

02:32:59.440 --> 02:33:07.600
I have no one would say that. A very good way, that's a life hack if you want custom clothes, just samples.

02:33:07.600 --> 02:33:12.560
Oh, God. Just commit a little fraud. Yeah, I don't even know if it counts as fraud.

02:33:12.560 --> 02:33:17.360
I don't think so. It's just using the system. Yeah, no, you could tell a factory that you have an intent.

02:33:17.360 --> 02:33:22.080
They won't really do a ton of real work for you if you don't prove that you are actually

02:33:22.080 --> 02:33:27.440
capable of ordering mass production stuff, but they might make you one of something you never

02:33:27.440 --> 02:33:30.560
know. You could repeat the grift at multiple factories.

02:33:30.560 --> 02:33:36.400
I'm not saying to do that. I don't advocate for wasting people's time, but conceivably, yeah, you could get something

02:33:36.400 --> 02:33:40.560
made one off. You could also just get stuff made one off overseas pretty easily as long as you don't

02:33:40.560 --> 02:33:46.000
live in the US and it's going to get tariffed. Like Yvonne had her wedding dress made one off.

02:33:46.000 --> 02:33:50.480
Yeah, that's cool. She ended up having to get a second one because the first one was a disaster.

02:33:51.040 --> 02:33:57.200
But then that second one. Is the second one one off? She ended up selling for so much more than what she paid that it covered the cost of

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both the first one and the second one and both were one off. Were they from the same place?

02:34:00.320 --> 02:34:06.080
No, I don't think so. That makes sense. Yeah. So it took her two attempts to get a wedding dress that she could actually wear.

02:34:06.080 --> 02:34:14.400
That's cool. It was beautiful though. It was pretty sweet. Yeah, this is a little known fact, but you can actually find our wedding video on YouTube.

02:34:14.400 --> 02:34:19.040
Yeah. We uploaded it. Not really sure how long I will leave it up.

02:34:19.040 --> 02:34:21.760
Oh, dude. Right?

02:34:23.600 --> 02:34:26.080
I've seen this, but it's been a long time.

02:34:27.040 --> 02:34:30.080
I really hope it starts at the Windows Movie Maker. Oh, dude.

02:34:30.080 --> 02:34:33.520
This is some Windows Movie Maker stuff. Ironic.

02:34:33.520 --> 02:34:39.040
It wasn't Sony Vegas. Was it ironic? No, it is Windows Movie Maker because that's what Yvonne would have to use.

02:34:39.040 --> 02:34:43.520
I don't think it was ironic. And she was the one who made it.

02:34:43.520 --> 02:34:47.840
So she used whatever software she knew how to use. This is, I mean, that is so much better.

02:34:47.840 --> 02:34:52.400
This is 2011, like a lot of YouTube videos were like this.

02:34:52.400 --> 02:34:57.840
Oh, yeah, buddy. Oh, good, the music's off because it is definitely some copyrighted music.

02:35:00.000 --> 02:35:03.120
Oh my goodness. Does he look old enough to get married?

02:35:03.120 --> 02:35:06.640
No, to be honest. I don't really think so. I don't really think so.

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Pretty, pretty magic day. Pretty magic day, buddies.

02:35:12.160 --> 02:35:15.280
Let's go. Anyway, so that's up there.

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If you're a weird creep and you want to watch it.

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Is it like, how much does it bother you knowing that someone has that backed up on a server

02:35:24.320 --> 02:35:29.840
somewhere, like an individual, not Google? Yeah, yeah, it doesn't really matter.

02:35:29.840 --> 02:35:34.000
I mean, it's, there's nothing, I like, I talk about this a lot when we,

02:35:34.000 --> 02:35:38.080
when we discuss like privacy topics where it's like, yeah, it's not too late for you.

02:35:38.080 --> 02:35:42.320
You're compromised already. You can keep your, you can keep your personal information safe still.

02:35:42.320 --> 02:35:46.400
I am, dude, I'm done. I've had that conversation with people too because I'm cooked.

02:35:46.400 --> 02:35:50.960
I talk about caring about privacy and stuff a lot. And then people are like, but you're so public.

02:35:50.960 --> 02:35:55.680
And I'm like, yeah, because I already lost. Yeah, that doesn't mean the war is over for everyone.

02:35:55.680 --> 02:35:58.720
I used to, I used to bother to change my phone number when it leaked.

02:35:58.720 --> 02:36:02.960
Yeah. I haven't bothered in years. Probably wasn't smart to say, but yeah.

02:36:03.600 --> 02:36:07.040
Well, it doesn't matter because I don't, I don't take calls. Yeah.

02:36:07.040 --> 02:36:10.080
I literally just don't answer calls. So it doesn't matter. Yeah.

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And also I just switched to a pixel, which has that cool call screening feature.

02:36:13.200 --> 02:36:18.000
So I especially don't take calls. Like, I love that feature.

02:36:18.000 --> 02:36:21.360
Yeah. I will never go to another phone that doesn't have it.

02:36:21.920 --> 02:36:26.560
Don't be easy. Don't be a f***ing idiot and think you're going to call me and I'm going to talk to you.

02:36:26.560 --> 02:36:30.400
That's not how that works. You are literally spamming me and bothering me.

02:36:30.400 --> 02:36:33.920
That's not how you start a, that's not how you kick off a relationship.

02:36:33.920 --> 02:36:37.040
Well, if they don't make it through the call screen, you just block the number.

02:36:37.040 --> 02:36:41.600
Yeah. Oh, exactly. Obvious. And so it's one of those things where, to me, I just had a,

02:36:42.160 --> 02:36:46.800
I just had a reality check where I was like, oh, okay.

02:36:46.800 --> 02:36:49.840
Well, yeah, this doesn't really matter.

02:36:52.240 --> 02:36:58.960
Whatever. Like there was a YouTuber who was working on a like, like getting celebrity contact info video

02:36:58.960 --> 02:37:02.320
a while back. I wonder if that video ever came out. I don't know. Anyway.

02:37:02.320 --> 02:37:05.120
Sure. It was incredibly easy to get yours. They were like, oh yeah.

02:37:05.840 --> 02:37:10.880
Well, they saw me in person. They were like, hey, can I get your phone number? I was like, I mean, sure, it's nothing special.

02:37:10.880 --> 02:37:17.120
You could get it like easy. And they're like, what do you mean? I'm like, oh, well, you could just go and like rocket reach and like look it up.

02:37:17.120 --> 02:37:21.520
I think their subscription's like $5 or something like that. He's like, whoa, why are you telling people that?

02:37:21.520 --> 02:37:27.920
I'm like, dude, it's not a secret. You literally just Google like freaking Bill Gates phone number.

02:37:27.920 --> 02:37:32.560
And you can like look it up like space gamer said, wait, what can my pixel do?

02:37:32.560 --> 02:37:35.680
The best feature that pixel has and some other phones have this as far as my

02:37:35.680 --> 02:37:41.200
understanding goes, but the best feature that pixel has in my opinion is call screening.

02:37:41.200 --> 02:37:46.320
And when someone calls you, there will be a little button there that says screen call.

02:37:46.320 --> 02:37:52.400
And if you press it, it will answer the call, but it's a Google voice.

02:37:52.400 --> 02:37:57.600
And the Google voice says, oh, the person that you are calling to reach has a call

02:37:57.600 --> 02:38:02.400
screening feature. State your name and your business and say who you are and what you want.

02:38:02.400 --> 02:38:06.240
And then it will output their answer through transcribed text.

02:38:06.240 --> 02:38:13.840
So you can read it without answering the call. And then if you don't like it, you just click hang up and then you have never

02:38:13.840 --> 02:38:21.920
actually answered the call and then you just block them. Or what happens most of the time is it's like a call center or something like that.

02:38:21.920 --> 02:38:26.240
They hit the call screening and they hang up. Yep. You just never have to deal with it.

02:38:26.240 --> 02:38:29.440
Asks, is Linus a celebrity? I told him no.

02:38:29.440 --> 02:38:35.120
I was like, I don't think I count. So maybe that's why you guys never saw that video.

02:38:35.440 --> 02:38:40.240
All right.

02:38:40.240 --> 02:38:45.280
I mean, the spam calling is insane. I get spam calls all the time.

02:38:45.280 --> 02:38:48.320
And I don't even matter if you've leaked your number.

02:38:48.320 --> 02:38:55.680
It matters because so many numbers are recycled now. Yes. So it matters whatever happened to whoever had your number before, realistically.

02:38:56.800 --> 02:39:00.720
Like there's one person who has one of my old numbers who apparently gets really mad

02:39:00.720 --> 02:39:06.480
at people if they call them. If he's a tech guy, then he should have updated his contact list properly.

02:39:06.480 --> 02:39:10.480
They apparently chewed out someone that called them. I was like, I don't know.

02:39:11.200 --> 02:39:16.080
Nice. That's definitely necessary. Yeah, that's definitely constructive.

02:39:16.080 --> 02:39:18.800
Yeah, for sure. Sure. Good job.

02:39:20.000 --> 02:39:26.160
All right, Dan. Linus, you're into Japanese style RPGs, a true man of culture.

02:39:26.160 --> 02:39:31.600
What do you feel are the primary hurdles for the genre to overcome becoming mainstream?

02:39:31.600 --> 02:39:42.480
Are these hurdles for gamers or developers? I mean, with how I, man, I would make the argument that A, they are mainstream

02:39:42.480 --> 02:39:48.400
and B, they are as mainstream as anything will ever be ever again in gaming.

02:39:48.960 --> 02:39:58.480
Gaming has become this fragmented collection of sub-sub-sub-sub genres

02:40:00.080 --> 02:40:07.520
to the point where you could play, you could play, you could spend all of your off work,

02:40:07.520 --> 02:40:13.040
off sleep time for an entire year just playing video games.

02:40:13.040 --> 02:40:20.480
And if you played them through to completion every time, you could probably not touch 10% of the sub-genres out there.

02:40:20.480 --> 02:40:23.760
So with that in mind, I don't think it needs to hit mainstream.

02:40:23.760 --> 02:40:28.320
There's something for everyone. And I think it's about as mainstream as anything will ever be again.

02:40:28.880 --> 02:40:33.120
If that, if you kind of, if that kind of makes sense, like I don't think anything's mainstream.

02:40:33.120 --> 02:40:36.480
I don't think we're ever going to have like, what would I, yeah.

02:40:37.200 --> 02:40:42.400
Minecraft robots. Those are kids specific though. Like can we get something that's not kids specific?

02:40:42.400 --> 02:40:49.360
Okay. Minecraft is not kids. Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right. In terms of the cultural impact though, I wanted to go back farther.

02:40:49.360 --> 02:40:53.280
Fortnite was everyone, dude. Hold on, hold on. Can I go back farther? I wanted to go back farther.

02:40:53.280 --> 02:40:56.000
I don't think we're going to have like a, like a Tetris.

02:40:56.800 --> 02:41:02.400
Where literally an entire generation of gamers has absolutely played that game.

02:41:02.400 --> 02:41:07.840
Well, maybe it's because they bundled it with the Game Boy Nintendo.

02:41:07.840 --> 02:41:10.720
Weird how there's a pattern of this being successful.

02:41:11.440 --> 02:41:14.880
It's really frustrating.

02:41:14.880 --> 02:41:18.720
And I'm sure I'm a hundred percent sure people have seen this with me,

02:41:18.720 --> 02:41:23.120
you, this company as a whole, whatever. It's really frustrating when you see another group,

02:41:23.120 --> 02:41:25.760
another person, another company, whatever, fumble something

02:41:27.200 --> 02:41:30.000
that would seem so obvious from the outside.

02:41:30.560 --> 02:41:34.320
Hold on. Ninja man away says, excuse the f**k out of you.

02:41:34.320 --> 02:41:44.800
Minecraft is not kids specific. Sorry. I misphrased that. What I meant was that it was generationally not far enough back that literally like everyone

02:41:44.800 --> 02:41:49.760
in that entire cohort played it. There were lots of people that would have considered themselves,

02:41:49.760 --> 02:41:53.360
you know, not going to play Minecraft and just would have never touched it.

02:41:53.360 --> 02:41:55.760
I never got into it until my kids got me into it.

02:41:57.440 --> 02:42:01.040
And I didn't even really get into it, but like, I could like know how to do it.

02:42:01.040 --> 02:42:05.200
I don't think you can do Tetris again because there are too many games.

02:42:05.200 --> 02:42:09.600
That's, that is exactly the point I was trying to make. And Minecraft wouldn't have made that point for me.

02:42:10.160 --> 02:42:13.680
Fortnite wouldn't have made that point for me. It's the same thing with music in my opinion.

02:42:13.680 --> 02:42:18.320
I don't think you can be the Beatles again. Yeah, I don't think that could happen.

02:42:18.320 --> 02:42:22.960
Yeah, I don't, I don't think so either. I don't think anyone can have the cultural impact of Elvis Presley again.

02:42:22.960 --> 02:42:26.160
Yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah.

02:42:28.560 --> 02:42:32.320
Since NVIDIA no longer supports game stream on the shield,

02:42:32.320 --> 02:42:36.560
is there a good alternative to stream from a PC to a TV in another room

02:42:36.560 --> 02:42:40.080
without running additional cables besides existing network cable? Moonlight, Steamlink.

02:42:40.640 --> 02:42:44.880
Steamlink. A lot of TVs will have apps for, well, no, the TV will have an app.

02:42:45.440 --> 02:42:47.600
Oh, what if you don't have a TV?

02:42:49.360 --> 02:42:55.040
Wasn't the question to do with TVs? What if there's a dumb TV or you have a projector?

02:43:00.720 --> 02:43:04.480
A laptop? Well, you could still run, you could still run Steamlink on the shield.

02:43:05.600 --> 02:43:08.240
That, okay.

02:43:09.360 --> 02:43:17.520
It's a solvable problem. This is mainly for Luke, but have you guys heard about the 4K77, 4K80 and 4K83 projects

02:43:17.520 --> 02:43:20.960
where they restored the original Star Wars theatrical releases?

02:43:20.960 --> 02:43:23.600
Pre-special editions. They are a great watch.

02:43:24.240 --> 02:43:27.440
Oh, why was this mainly for me? Well, yeah, I'm down.

02:43:27.440 --> 02:43:38.080
I love it. I'm excited. Dude, we have owed the people, Luke, we still haven't done our Star Wars stream.

02:43:39.760 --> 02:43:42.560
What was it again? We promised to do it like 10 years ago.

02:43:43.360 --> 02:43:47.440
We were going to just like watch Star Wars and dunk on it. The prequels, right?

02:43:47.440 --> 02:43:50.720
Or was it all of it? I think, I don't remember.

02:43:50.720 --> 02:43:55.200
I think it was all of it. I think we were supposed to watch all nine movies with commentary.

02:43:57.360 --> 02:44:01.440
How do we do it? Oh, sorry. Sunshine is apparently a good alternative to Moonlight.

02:44:02.080 --> 02:44:02.960
Yeah, I heard about that.

02:44:07.520 --> 02:44:12.720
Dude, doing it with this. No, because the whole point of it was that we were going to dunk on it

02:44:12.720 --> 02:44:14.720
and talk about all the stuff that's stupid about it.

02:44:16.000 --> 02:44:19.840
Yeah, but I don't think this changes the plot or anything. It's just like a...

02:44:19.840 --> 02:44:22.960
It's not a fan edit. It's the real deal start to finish, warps and all.

02:44:23.680 --> 02:44:26.720
Not as pristine as despecialized, but totally authentic.

02:44:27.680 --> 02:44:29.120
Oh, interesting.

02:44:31.200 --> 02:44:34.480
Where do you get it? Is it like... But it's like the original cut.

02:44:34.480 --> 02:44:38.160
So like Han shoots Greedo and stuff, right? I'm assuming. I would hope so.

02:44:38.720 --> 02:44:42.000
I think that's the point is it's like the original cut, but really nice.

02:44:43.120 --> 02:44:46.960
I could be wrong. That's what I got from it so far though.

02:44:46.960 --> 02:44:50.800
So sorry, where do you get them? Is this just like a torrent thing or is it like...

02:44:50.800 --> 02:44:53.920
I have no idea. Yeah, I don't know.

02:44:53.920 --> 02:44:58.480
The Reddit thread doesn't actually say anything about... There's a sample of the opening scene.

02:44:59.440 --> 02:45:02.640
Yeah, we're not going to be watching that on stream. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:45:02.640 --> 02:45:05.520
But you can find it. Originaltrilogy.com.

02:45:06.800 --> 02:45:10.720
Something, something, something. Should Disney do the right thing and release a 4K version?

02:45:10.720 --> 02:45:13.360
I thought that was part of their deal with Lucas though, that they couldn't do it.

02:45:14.400 --> 02:45:19.440
Like they would only ever release the garbage versions and then they would...

02:45:19.440 --> 02:45:23.360
I guess part of the deal was also to make the new stuff more garbage than before.

02:45:26.000 --> 02:45:29.920
I will do my best to keep the page up to date. Here's a forum thing. Yeah, I don't know, man.

02:45:29.920 --> 02:45:34.080
I have no idea like where to get this stuff.

02:45:35.920 --> 02:45:45.280
All right. Well, anyway. So is watching the no-DNR version of 4K77 just like watching the film and theaters in 1977?

02:45:45.280 --> 02:45:48.480
Not 100% no, but pretty close is their answer.

02:45:49.760 --> 02:45:53.120
That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. Yeah, I mean, I'm down.

02:45:54.240 --> 02:46:01.840
I'm down. I'm down. What do we do? Do we just put like a timestamp on screen and then they can't see or hear the movie?

02:46:01.840 --> 02:46:05.280
Yeah, I think you'd have to like... And we'd have to just talk over it and not pause it.

02:46:05.280 --> 02:46:08.400
So they watch along, yeah. So you would just let... It would be like a watch along. Yeah.

02:46:08.400 --> 02:46:13.680
That's very like Mystery Science Theater 3000, but except you don't actually see the movie.

02:46:13.680 --> 02:46:18.400
So you have to, yeah. Yeah, that'd be sweet. We could even just like have like a...

02:46:18.400 --> 02:46:22.400
We could even have just like a... And how would we do this?

02:46:22.640 --> 02:46:28.080
So we could make it so that it's like kind of intended for you to watch on PC and we like

02:46:28.080 --> 02:46:31.840
leave a little spot in the corner in our framing where you can kind of like put the movie.

02:46:31.840 --> 02:46:37.200
Or maybe to put us or something. I don't know. I think us. Yeah, yeah. So I don't think there's going to be a lot of us to like see.

02:46:37.200 --> 02:46:40.320
Yeah, maybe we won't have to do anything like that. Yeah, watch party. Let's go.

02:46:41.280 --> 02:46:44.640
Okay. Hi, Wanshell.

02:46:44.640 --> 02:46:48.160
Maybe a weird question, but why does my package...

02:46:48.160 --> 02:46:54.960
Oh boy. Go to the U.S. first and then to Germany where it gets transferred to another company to reach

02:46:54.960 --> 02:47:01.760
thousands of America. What a great question. So it goes to the U.S. first because we use a shipping consolidator called WISMO.

02:47:02.560 --> 02:47:07.920
Because if we actually ship using Canadian couriers from a Canadian address literally

02:47:07.920 --> 02:47:14.960
anywhere, it costs way more for, in many cases, not even a better experience.

02:47:15.280 --> 02:47:18.320
Shipping from Canada sucks bananas.

02:47:18.320 --> 02:47:24.080
Oh yeah, it's totally. As for why it goes to Germany and then gets transferred to another company to reach South

02:47:24.080 --> 02:47:32.160
America. That's why. South America. That is because there's major hubs where they consolidate shipments and the math behind

02:47:32.160 --> 02:47:36.400
it is far more complicated than I will ever understand, but that's the most efficient way

02:47:36.400 --> 02:47:40.960
to do it apparently. It's stupid. Yeah. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

02:47:41.680 --> 02:47:46.320
It seems awfully ridiculous, but that is not uncommon.

02:47:46.320 --> 02:47:51.520
It also does make sense. Joshcraft3d asks, will tariffs affect WISMO?

02:47:51.520 --> 02:47:56.240
Of course. And someone asks, does that mean everyone will get American tariffs?

02:47:56.240 --> 02:48:00.880
No, we won't be able to ship through the U.S. anymore. So we have a lot of stuff to figure out on our side.

02:48:00.880 --> 02:48:07.840
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02:48:33.600 --> 02:48:37.200
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02:48:37.200 --> 02:48:37.760
Look at him go.

02:48:40.960 --> 02:48:48.160
All right, Dan, hit me. Sure. Now that you've seen someone do the land gaming house better than you,

02:48:49.840 --> 02:48:55.120
do you think you can revisit it for a budget, even if it's steam remote streaming to tablets?

02:48:55.120 --> 02:48:56.640
I don't know, maybe a contest.

02:48:58.880 --> 02:49:00.400
And part of what makes,

02:49:03.280 --> 02:49:06.480
part of what makes his house work so well

02:49:07.120 --> 02:49:15.440
is that it wasn't done on a budget. And I think if you were to do it on a budget, like you could do it, but by the time you're

02:49:15.440 --> 02:49:22.480
spending that kind of money, you would have been better off doing it a different way. Like if I was going to put tablets on a bunch of stations, like what, sorry, why?

02:49:23.040 --> 02:49:26.400
Right? Because I'm spending hundreds of dollars now for what? A tiny screen.

02:49:26.400 --> 02:49:30.000
Well, why don't I just get, well, I could get a Raspberry Pi, I guess, then I could get a big

02:49:30.000 --> 02:49:37.360
screen. Also where would you get it? Yeah, like realistically, if you have the budget to do like a, you know,

02:49:38.720 --> 02:49:42.320
how many stations were in the basement? Was it six and six or eight and eight?

02:49:42.320 --> 02:49:47.200
I can't, I can't remember. I think it was 12. I think it was 12 in the basement and the DDR things.

02:49:47.200 --> 02:49:51.280
Like if you have that kind of space, guys, let's be real.

02:49:51.280 --> 02:49:55.440
The money for like a computer and a monitor, you got it.

02:49:55.440 --> 02:50:01.360
Yeah. Right? So, well, here, that's true.

02:50:01.840 --> 02:50:04.880
There's places where space is not that expensive. Like where?

02:50:06.560 --> 02:50:12.160
Like space that is a house. Yeah. With like, you know, presumably nicely run wiring.

02:50:12.160 --> 02:50:16.960
Like by the time you bring in a contract or run a bunch of, like, I mean, sure, we could do

02:50:16.960 --> 02:50:20.640
like the dirt version of it where you just like put Ethernet cables everywhere.

02:50:21.360 --> 02:50:26.800
But I don't, I don't know if there's a ton of value in it because at the end of the day,

02:50:26.800 --> 02:50:31.520
you still need a bunch of people are saying Texas. What I will say, you need GPU horsepower to run it.

02:50:32.160 --> 02:50:35.760
And GPUs are going to be the single most expensive component of the whole thing.

02:50:35.760 --> 02:50:40.560
Alabama, Georgia. There's a lot of places in the States where you can get a relatively large house for not

02:50:40.560 --> 02:50:47.200
that much money. Okay. That's fair. That's fair. There's also a lot of places outside of North America where it's possible.

02:50:48.560 --> 02:50:54.000
I mean, Japan. Oh, well, technicalities.

02:50:54.000 --> 02:50:57.040
Yeah. If you want to go to rural Japan, sure.

02:50:57.040 --> 02:51:01.040
I mean, you can get pretty darn close to big cities.

02:51:01.040 --> 02:51:04.880
You can get closer to we are than to Vancouver. Assuming they want you there.

02:51:05.600 --> 02:51:08.000
That might, that might be a part of the hurdles.

02:51:11.520 --> 02:51:15.120
Yeah. That's why I did the technicality hands.

02:51:15.120 --> 02:51:18.960
I mean, you know what? It is kind of a cool idea to do like the janky version of it, but

02:51:20.400 --> 02:51:22.240
take a router to your hardwood.

02:51:23.920 --> 02:51:26.080
Oof. All right. I think Dennis already did that.

02:51:31.440 --> 02:51:31.840
Luke.

02:51:35.120 --> 02:51:35.920
What a dick.

02:51:42.160 --> 02:51:44.880
I'm just going to let you two sit with that. No.

02:51:45.520 --> 02:51:51.600
I won't. I buy TVs with composites still for old consoles, but the resolution and technical

02:51:51.600 --> 02:51:58.800
issues make it flaky. Any recommendation for upscaling early 2000 consoles or should I just emulate it if I own games?

02:51:58.800 --> 02:52:06.000
All right. Well, there's two answers. Number one is absolutely there are recommendations for upscaling early 2000s consoles.

02:52:06.000 --> 02:52:09.760
What you want is a one of these.

02:52:13.200 --> 02:52:14.480
Oh my God.

02:52:16.960 --> 02:52:20.320
The reason it's so expensive is because it uses an FPGA.

02:52:20.320 --> 02:52:27.120
So these are extremely expensive processors and also work costs money, but this is a great

02:52:27.120 --> 02:52:34.560
way to take retro consoles and with no perceptible latency, upscale them as beautifully as possible

02:52:34.560 --> 02:52:38.320
to a modern TV with an HDMI input.

02:52:40.720 --> 02:52:44.640
As for your other question, should you just emulate? That depends.

02:52:44.640 --> 02:52:48.800
If you are a purist and you want it to look as close to the original experience as possible,

02:52:48.800 --> 02:52:52.400
then no, you shouldn't emulate, but I would emulate.

02:52:52.960 --> 02:52:58.800
There's also another very expensive option, which is analog.

02:52:59.520 --> 02:53:05.360
Oh yeah. You could just buy consoles that run those old cartridges, but have an HDMI output.

02:53:05.360 --> 02:53:08.640
Yeah, they have an N64 now. Is it out?

02:53:09.440 --> 02:53:14.560
No. It's out of stock, but at least it's shipping in July.

02:53:15.360 --> 02:53:18.480
Okay. That's not out then. The sales went live though. Oh, they did. That's what I'm saying.

02:53:18.480 --> 02:53:22.720
Yeah. The greatest multiplayer system of all time.

02:53:24.160 --> 02:53:27.280
Interesting. I think there's arguments that could be made for that.

02:53:28.480 --> 02:53:33.040
Really? I think so. You would argue that over- It depends on how much you value-

02:53:33.040 --> 02:53:38.320
Twisted Metal, like Tekken, like, I don't know, man, PlayStation.

02:53:40.240 --> 02:53:45.040
The greatest multiplayer system of all time.

02:53:45.040 --> 02:53:48.880
The PlayStation probably wins. But yeah, 007 Mario Kart Smash Bros.

02:53:48.960 --> 02:53:54.640
007 is un-playable if you've touched a modern control scheme and you try to go back to it.

02:53:54.640 --> 02:53:59.360
Yeah, but we're talking, you have to look at it in the time that it was released.

02:53:59.360 --> 02:54:04.640
No. If you make a statement like greatest of all time, you can't be like, yeah.

02:54:06.400 --> 02:54:13.200
No, you definitely still have to look at it. Yeah, you kind of can. I mean, you absolutely have to or else it would like always be the most modern thing.

02:54:13.200 --> 02:54:18.800
That's yeah, that's ridiculous. Dude, I don't know, man. Like, that's a bold claim.

02:54:18.800 --> 02:54:22.160
That's a bold claim. Mario Party and 64 Mario Party was insane.

02:54:22.800 --> 02:54:27.600
Sure. I can't even think of a Mario Party that released afterwards that I liked

02:54:27.600 --> 02:54:30.960
and Mario Party 64 was amazing. They just make them worse. Yeah, they're all awful.

02:54:30.960 --> 02:54:34.320
They're just very kidding. No rock bands, no guitar hero.

02:54:34.960 --> 02:54:38.320
Like, I'm just greatest of all time.

02:54:39.520 --> 02:54:44.080
That's tough. You've named like three games. What was the first console to have four controller ports?

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I think the SNES supported multi-tap.

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There was like three games. That's with the crazy adapter and there was like no games.

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But PS1 had a multi-tap that like actually had games that supported it.

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Did people buy it? Did it really like exist? I think so, yeah.

02:54:59.680 --> 02:55:03.920
Because I think making it physically part of the console counts for more, in my opinion.

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Let's have an adapter. I'm not. Yeah, I don't mean the adapters though. I really don't think the adapters count.

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They're like really hard to find now because basically none of them existed.

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I don't know, man. Like, and it apparently worked for, oh, I don't know if it was a different version.

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This is just Wikipedia. Multi-tap is a peripheral for the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 that can be used to plug

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it up to four controllers and memory cards at the same time in a single controller port.

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With a second multi-tap up to eight controllers and memory cards could be plugged in at once.

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These were really rare though. I don't think it counts. I don't think they were rare. I think they were.

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I mean, my friend had one, like, I don't know. We played Poi Poi.

02:55:38.880 --> 02:55:43.440
We could play Poi Poi with up to here.

02:55:43.440 --> 02:55:45.840
Check this out. This game's actually like legit.

02:55:47.040 --> 02:55:50.320
It's kind of like, did you ever remember that? And 64 was first out of the box.

02:55:50.320 --> 02:55:54.480
And someone in full paint shot said that. I think that is true. I'm not ever so certain.

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And I think that's why they're giving it this title is it's the first one with four

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out of the box. And I think that's a pretty big deal. But like PS1 supported eight.

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So I guess people didn't have the multi-tap.

02:56:06.960 --> 02:56:11.040
Check this out. Remember that game bomb squad that we played on Android?

02:56:11.040 --> 02:56:18.000
This is like bomb squad, but like where every every item is like six polygons.

02:56:18.800 --> 02:56:22.400
So yeah, you could pick each other up and throw each other. There's there's bombs.

02:56:22.400 --> 02:56:25.840
There's you can like pick up logs and hook them at each other.

02:56:27.600 --> 02:56:32.240
It's pretty fun actually. Looks more entertaining than most phone games.

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Yep. Got them. Poi Poi, let's go. 10 seconds.

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I found one on shopgoodwill.com for a multi-tap. People are really maybe I'm just doing a terrible job of explaining my stances today,

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but people really don't get it. I'm not talking about now. How's it feel to be me?

02:56:45.440 --> 02:56:47.680
It's like deeply not the point like at all.

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What I'm talking about is he had a friend that had it when he was growing up.

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I had no one that I knew that had a PlayStation had one.

02:56:55.760 --> 02:56:59.760
I bet you most people that owned PlayStation back then didn't even know they existed.

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That's my point. Anyways, it's fine.

02:57:04.000 --> 02:57:07.360
It's fine. I didn't say I don't know. I know.

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I knew I'm doing it for you.

02:57:13.440 --> 02:57:18.320
I'm feeding on his salt today. So I thought a techie in Floatplane chat said I didn't know they existed.

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Like, come on. Come on.

02:57:21.840 --> 02:57:28.000
All right. See that's Dan. Hello Linus little development moving to a new place and I'm treating myself to this

02:57:28.000 --> 02:57:32.960
MCM bundle. Nice. Which you can get for half off on altidstore.com and save the shipping if you buy

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over $150. Let's go. Question for Luke.

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I tend to have my hobbies tied around my line of work CS plus AI.

02:57:40.800 --> 02:57:43.200
Do you face this issue? Yes. Yeah.

02:57:45.200 --> 02:57:53.040
I don't mind it that much. I was told my whole life growing up that don't do what you love because you're

02:57:53.040 --> 02:57:56.560
blah, blah, blah. You won't be able to enjoy it anymore. And no.

02:57:58.080 --> 02:58:02.080
I mean, I think you did find that to a degree with game streaming.

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You got pretty demotivated about game streaming after a while.

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It didn't make you not enjoy gaming though. It didn't at all. And I mostly got demotivated because the environment that I was in was not conducive

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to it. So I was weighing on other people. Got it. Like if I game stream right now, I am annoying someone.

02:58:18.960 --> 02:58:22.320
You'll be annoying me because you're supposed to be working on Wanshow.

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No, I'm going to, I'm going to open up a browser game.

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No, uh, Ruinscape. Yeah. So it's, it's like, I would, there have been many times where I would like, I would like

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to stream what I'm playing right now. And it's just like, yeah, it's just going to annoy someone.

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I don't want to bother, but I do want to return to it. Eventually it probably won't be anytime soon.

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So don't get excited, but maybe I should just get set up so that I could stream in the basement because I almost never game upstairs anymore because like my kids are

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usually down in the basement and stuff. I just get a webcam because like I have my nice streaming setup and it's like great

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for calls and like I have that road mic that's like this long. You've seen my desk, um, but honestly, it's not the most comfortable for gaming.

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And if I have anyone in person with me, it's not that great.

02:59:08.720 --> 02:59:13.440
You know what I really need to do is I need to set it up so that I can like multiplayer game in my theater.

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There's no reason not to. Can't you? Well, yeah, no, I totally get, well, I don't have a headset in there and like, I

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don't, like it's not, I don't have a computer in there right now. Dude playing Anno on the, didn't we talk about that?

02:59:24.560 --> 02:59:28.800
I think we've talked about this before. I have never played Anno on it. Playing Anno on there would be so sick.

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I can actually be so sick. Like when we're doing our tape to tape runs, why am I sitting at my desk?

02:59:33.840 --> 02:59:37.360
Honestly, yeah, I don't know. That's crazy. Yeah, kind of. Like what am I doing?

02:59:37.360 --> 02:59:42.960
Yeah. So, um. See, I would prefer that he solves that before he tries to like, I think Linus's

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land house is fine. The fact that someone else has a cooler one. Oh yeah.

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No, I wasn't. Is whatever. I wasn't upset in any way. I don't, if I want to do like a 20 plus per hour, I don't, I don't want to do

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a 20 plus person land. We'll do the smash champs. Like that. I got a plan for that.

02:59:57.280 --> 03:00:01.040
We have options. But those types of things I think would be cool to solve.

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Making, streaming less of a chore is a good idea. And then yeah, being able to play tape to tape or Anno or whatever from the

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theater room. I finally have a computer in there. I just, I, okay.

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What I wanted to do was I wanted to do something that was like almost entirely

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passive because I have that perforated drawer thing and then I have fans at the

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top and I wanted to, I wanted to do like a whole thing where it was like convection cooled or something.

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And I just, it's not, it hasn't been a priority on the video side and I haven't

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gotten around to it personally. So I just haven't had a computer in there the whole time.

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And the idea was that I would share my computer across it, but then with the

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multiple monitors plugged in and which one is your primary monitor and your

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secondary and your tertiary and not in Windows, not being able to change those

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assignments and like the whole thing. It's been kind of a pain in the butt.

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And Windows KVM was theoretically a perfect solution for it. But then I was having trouble with the USB extensions and blah, blah, blah, blah,

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The long story short is I just need to put a stupid computer in there.

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And Falcon Northwest, we have a review coming of their Tiki.

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Oh, you're putting that in there? No. Oh. They sent over their Tiki and what they wanted to send us was not actually the Tiki,

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but I said I want the Tiki because I think it's a really good match for the 5090,

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which is what they have in it, because it actually blows right through.

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Oh, it's sick. Which is pretty cool because it doesn't share any of that heat with the other

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components like we observed in our review of the RTX 5090 where it like

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heats up your CPU and RAM and stuff.

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But they were like, okay, we'll send you the Tiki because that's what you guys want.

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And realistically, if we can be the first system review on LTT in like two years,

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then I guess, because it's a super cool system. So Jake's working on the review of that.

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But what we really wanted to send was the frag box. So we'll send you one, but can you just try it?

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And I was like, okay. So I don't know when they need it back or whatever, but for now it's in my house.

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And speaking of stealing things from work. I had an idea.

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And I put it in the theater room.

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And our next tape to tape run. I'm going to be, you can come over.

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You can sit in the theater room with me, but I'm going to be in the theater room. Sweet.

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Sweet. There's no way around it. I had an idea. You might like it.

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It's very Linus beneficial. It doesn't do literally anything for me, but I think you'll like it.

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I think it's a decent idea. Yes. You know that I'm going to be kind of vague, but I think you'll get it.

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You know that thing that we're specking?

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You called me about it. You're like, I don't know about these specs.

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They're a little much.

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It's the last time you called me. Is it like a gaming plane? No, that's funny though, but we talked about it in text.

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No, I'm trying to try to figure the phone call.

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I'm trying to be vague in the other building. Gaming jet. No.

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Again, we talked about that in text. Okay.

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You call me about it this week. Like. Okay. A jet for gaming.

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I mean, I can just say it. I don't know if I need to. I don't know.

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I have no idea what you're talking about. So we're thinking about making a home theater set.

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Oh God, don't talk about that. I'm kidding. Yes, we are working on one of the like original lab things that we were supposed to have,

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which is a light controlled environment that we could also use for not only just testing displays,

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like in general, because it's light controlled, but also we could use for like setting up big

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TVs and projectors so that we're not always using my theater room at home for testing stuff.

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This has noticeable negatives. I just want to be very clear, but there is one really major positive.

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So I'm throwing it out there. All right. What if we just recreated your home theater room so that okay,

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anything that you liked in there, you would know exactly what it was like.

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We could have that cubby. If something fit in there and you liked it, you could just take it home.

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No, that's a terrible idea. The TV would mount perfectly. Everything would be exact.

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You could you could cheat in certain ways. Like I think this was James Strybe's idea,

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but you could make the wall behind the TV a fake wall and just have a mount there

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so we could have more space back there and stuff. But other than that, things would sound mostly correct.

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That's hilarious. Things would look mostly correct. Things would fit mostly correct.

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Chat likes this. Oh, come on, you guys. Alfred's going to kill me because they don't have as much filming areas on the size which they wanted.

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Uh, sorry. I'll think about it.

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I'll think about it. Maybe you could just make it similar. It would be better if it was bigger, honestly.

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I wanted to make my theater room bigger because the seating is a little bit cramped.

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Like when we really like have it packed with people,

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I wish it was probably about one seat wider.

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Like I'm not saying, oh, yes, my personal theater room is not big enough.

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Like I'm not, but I would have preferred. There is a, there is a mild amount of lack of prime seats.

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Yes. Yeah. And, and, and so if you're all like huddled around like playing an eight-player game together,

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it's, it's not. There's a few people that don't have great seats. Yeah. And, and I, what I, what I would have wanted is to have a larger screen and like a 21 by nine

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modular display in the long term. I would have loved to use like modular panels to have a 21 by nine display.

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That would have been my ideal. I want to temper people's expectations.

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Mossin said, nope, do it right. We're not going to do it like right, right.

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It'll be like, right, right is actually kind of crazy.

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Yeah. It involves like, like a room within a room and like suspended floor and.

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You're spending incredible amounts of money. I don't know how forever our current facilities are.

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They're really not ideal. The team doesn't love being separated between the two buildings down the street and stuff like that.

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Yeah.

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We haven't found an alternative. Like we kind of four, we found a really nice building a while back,

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but when we surveyed the team, the attrition was unacceptable.

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We would have lost, not only a huge portion of our team,

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but we would have lost key members that I think you guys would have been very disappointed in us

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for not doing everything we could to retain.

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And so asking for all these stars to align something that is large enough to accommodate us

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affordable enough that we can trade our current holdings for it,

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because I don't realistically want to put a ton more money into Lower Mainland real estate.

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And also is in approximately the same location.

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So we aren't over people who literally picked up their lives

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and moved them and put down routes to be near Linus Media Group and affiliated companies.

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Like it just hasn't happened. And it's going to be tough to happen, but.

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But if something were to come up, we would like to take that. I don't want to spend a quarter million dollars on this room

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that we are literally going to bulldoze because looking at the way it has to be constructed,

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it's not modular. It can't be like taken apart and reused.

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I want to be in a position where it's like, okay, everyone grab your go bag. Let's go.

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Which obviously wouldn't be quite like, but no, I don't know.

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I don't know. Oh, oh yeah.

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Dance there. Doesn't know knows a guy and narcissist.

03:07:00.240 --> 03:07:03.920
I've noticed that the MCM goes on promo a lot.

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Does that mean it's not moving as fast as you'd hoped?

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I would hate to see it discontinued if it's a slow mover. MCM's great.

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It's just something that people love. And we do promos sometimes on things that people love.

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And we promo the screwdriver. We sell anywhere from like 50 to 150 screwdrivers a day.

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So it's a great business for us. And MCM is also a great business for us.

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We have new products coming. It's also, it's a line of products, right?

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So if you, if you buy in and you make your desk super nice,

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you might be inspired in the future to make your home theater room super nice or something like that.

03:07:37.040 --> 03:07:41.120
You know, inside baseball talk, you're going to buy this. You could get a good deal on this.

03:07:41.120 --> 03:07:45.760
Now you're in the ecosystem, right? So if you want one more, you know, power brick adapter,

03:07:45.760 --> 03:07:52.240
you want a couple more of the, the little keyhole adapters for power strips and stuff like that.

03:07:52.240 --> 03:07:58.240
Well, you're going to come back and pay full pop for them, unless you can be super patient and, and, you know, wait for a promo again.

03:07:58.720 --> 03:08:02.080
One of those things where we got, you got to get people to actually like try it.

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Yeah. We want you to try it because when you try it, you're going to love it. Yeah.

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And then we got you. Yeah. Because it's a really great product. And the only way for someone to try to undercut it would be to just make no margin on it,

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because what makes it good is the cost of the materials.

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So you can't make a knockoff one without cheaping out on the magnets,

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and then your product will suck. So we have a pretty good functionality moat around it,

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where there's just really not much point in someone competing with it,

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because they're either going to have to spend a bunch of money on neodymium

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in order to match the functionality of it. Or if they don't care about that, then they're going to be,

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or if they want like a crappier one, then they're going to be up against people just 3d printing their own

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and like hot gluing magnets into them, which is basically zero cost.

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So there's not really room to, well, I shouldn't say that

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because I'm sure someone's going to be like, and I took that personally and like try and compete with it or whatever.

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But it's very difficult to create a new value proposition

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for a product that is like this, but I don't know, like this.

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Last one I've got for you today. What's the best way to clean my old desk pad?

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Postscriptum, I already got a new one. I always put mine in the washing machine cold.

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Even though you're not supposed to. But you're not supposed to, but I've always had good luck with it.

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But what I think you're supposed to do is just use like a wetted cloth and wipe it or something like that.

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That is, I believe that is what you're supposed to do. I've done that and it doesn't work as well.

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So make of that what you will. And it's getting to be a thing for me,

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because I got a walking pad and I've been doing that walking at home

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and I am already a sweaty boy. And then I walk on the walking pad at like three and a half miles an hour

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for like a couple hours. And then I need to wash my desk pad.

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Nice. And when I do that, I put it in the washing machine.

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So it is what it is. We should do a walking land show. See if I can keep up.

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I'm sure you could.

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I'm doing it right now. Prove I'm not walking under here.

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I can't. It's impossible. What walking pad do you have?

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I don't remember. Cool. I did a bunch of research. I bought it.

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It's not actually something I like caribote or an image interested in, but I made sure that I got one that seemed good and it seems good.

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My only problem is I'm a big boy and it's kind of narrow.

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So I end up doing a bit of like a, almost like a catwalk.

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Oh, I see. I have to like cross my feet in a little bit. Get that hips way.

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Yeah, which is not awesome. But I don't think there's much wider ones that don't end up getting like really bulky.

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And one of the nice things about the one that I have is when I fold it up

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because it folds, which is nice. And I roll it away. It can fit under a chair that is in our little area.

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So it gets to like kind of get put away, which is nice.

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I just like this one because they referred to you as big L.

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Like the big L you took before the show.

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You should have lost as well. Us both losing would have been completely fine.

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You winning makes no sense. I think you both should have lost because you delayed title thumbnail even more

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to have your petty squabble outside about Luke's car parked illegally.

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And defensive to, uh, yeah.

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Yeah, I didn't even realize it. Sure, my bad. Second last one I've got.

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Dear big L and big D and little L listening from Osaka, Japan

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as a wannabe business owner. What point did you realize your business was going to be viable long term gaming

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dirigible hot air balloon win? Okay. Never for that second thing.

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And as for realizing the business was going to be viable long term,

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I mean, depends what you mean by long term, like so few companies last 100 years.

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As for like, oh man, we were pretty confident we were going to make it from the start

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because we were, you bought the channel, you bought the channel for a dollar after that.

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Oh, no, I wasn't at all. I, I, no, I talked a good game, but I was not sure.

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I, I mean, I was in, I was in desperation survival mode.

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I knew more numbers than I was supposed to, and I was pretty confident.

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Probably until we paid off this building.

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I was probably in like frantic survival mode. Yeah, but I like that.

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That's not, that's not viable long term.

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For me it is. Oh, shoot. Luke and I have the same stress disorder.

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Oh my God, is everything going to implode? Now I'm finally comfortable.

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I start to shut down and like things suck and I get depressed.

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I don't like hearing words back at me.

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Okay. Well, anyway, we need therapy.

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Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, me too.

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Yeah, I think when we, I think when we paid off this building, I felt, um, like it was

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going to be viable long term. Even then we were still like so much at the mercy of YouTube back then.

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Yeah. And when I felt properly diversified enough that we could lose any individual business unit,

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like not just lose anyone sponsored, but like lose any business unit and still limp along

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was probably when we launched backpack and screwdriver.

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Because all of a sudden the merch business could sustain the YouTube business even if

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like sponsorships dried up or if AdSense went away or if affiliate revenue went away.

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And in the same way, the, the YouTube business could continue to support the merch business if,

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you know, they had a couple of flops or they had a bad year or whatever else.

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Like it felt with the left hand and the right hand helping each other balance out.

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Um, I think was when I like really felt like, okay, yeah, like LMG float playing creator

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warehouse, um, smash chance, you know, BC LTD, whatever the holdco umbrella company

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or corporation is, like that's when I really felt like, okay, no, this is like a real org.

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Just like I felt like this is a real end of the WAN Show.

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Wait, I was wrong though. Because I haven't told the people about the incredible ship store and promo running on

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lttstore.com free shipping, free shipping my friends on all orders over 150 US dollars.

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That's worldwide offer and Saturday, April 19th at 1159 PM Pacific time. Oh, and would you look

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at this? The MCM essential solution is just $79.99 US dollars. And to top it up, look at this

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cute little animation, just add things to your cart and the bar fills up till you reach free

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worldwide shipping. You could get a commuter backpack, a precision multi bit screwdriver,

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any kind of screwdriver, a back pack or bag. We've got all kinds of great apparel that you can wear

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on your top of your body and on your bottom of your body and on your on your head or your face.

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And you can add it to your cart and you can take it home. Look at this hooded task jacket. You too

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could look like this man. Wow, look at that. Incredible. See you again next week. Same bad

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time, same bad channel. Bye. And I'm completely sure of that. Are you? Yeah. What?

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What do you guys mean? Oh,

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it works right now. Yeah, they're a total overlays. Nice.

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Wow, there's so many. I'm apparently it has a warning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. How long are these going to go for? About two minutes. Two more minutes?

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Good Lord. All right. Well, what are your plans this weekend?

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I'm going to see the thing. Oh, you're going to see the thing. Yeah.

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Okay, cool. No, probably not the one that you think. Oh, I'm playing.

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Practical thing. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, the cool. Completely unrelated to all of it.

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The jet?

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Game and jet? Which one? Minecraft. I wouldn't go. I would go.

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Chat's guessing. Minecraft. No, no. Have you figured it out yet?

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Uh, a relative. Yeah. Okay. Good.

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Oh my god. Might also go see the original thing. Yeah, you should go see that thing.

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We're trying to figure out what time it is.

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I miss schedules when they talk right now. Yeah, that makes sense.

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Maybe not forever. Probably not for long. Let's go. Let's go.

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Good, great. We're very, very close to it. Like genuinely.

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It's pretty sad that this might be like the last time this year that we make money on the store

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selling to certain countries. It was nice working for you guys.