There we go, that's what you want to hear your producers say. I guess it's this button. Hey,
so Dan, have we figured out how much of the YouTube cut gets cut off? Because I've noticed
that with the not when show live streams, like if I start talking right away, that is not at the
beginning of the video. And then I saw it on the fire truck intro last week. Like the beginning
was not there in the VOD. Yeah, for when show. Well, no, it was that too. But also,
I think the very beginning part was missing. I wonder how much. I'll chase that up next week.
No, there was a bit like before that, isn't there? Let me see.
Because there's your part. Yeah, my part's in here. No, no, there's, there's, yeah.
Oh, you're right. Because I'm at the desk and then the thing goes on. Yeah, it's just completely
not there. And I don't think that. Oh my God. Yeah, so it's a thing. When we go live on YouTube.
Yeah. So I may be, I have no idea because so I think the YouTube audience thinks I haven't said
what's everyone welcome to the WAN Show in years. Like I don't know how long it's been doing this.
Uh, oh, Luke audio, please unmute Luke. They can't hear Luke.
I don't think I was live on my side and I hear myself talking. I'm going to mute him just for
fun. Sorry. Nice. Sorry. I didn't, I undid it. That was mean, but it wouldn't mean guy.
Where's mine? There it is.
Oh man.
Got a great show for you today is apparently what Chewie's used to seeing on the YouTube vid.
Yeah. Okay. So it's missing like the first five seconds.
Welcome to the WAN Show is the first line. What's up everyone? Welcome to the WAN Show
typically. We've got a great show lined up for you today. So I just like, I haven't done,
I haven't done a greeting in like how long it's probably like a two second delay.
So often there's a bit of a delay on my side on the YouTube studio.
Okay. So should I be using the studio to tell if we're live then
rather than the green checkmark in the dashboard?
Probably. I mean, we can try that tonight. Sure. That does make sense because the green
checkmark isn't, Hey, the other side is transmitting this. It's, we have formed a connection
because you'll see it says connect streaming software to go live and then it'll freak out a
bit and then the video will start. I do think this means that there will pretty much guaranteed
be a millennial pause. A very short one, especially depending on how fast you react,
but there'll be something because if you're waiting until you see it and then you're going,
yeah, then that gap will exist. But that's what I always thought existed anyway. So I guess
now we're just going back to it. But yeah, like we've, we've had some
like build streams and stuff where we've scripted like punchy intros
and the first part of it's just cut off and makes absolutely no sense. And I don't know how to
the two that I've seen is you start with a timer on screen
or you start talking about something unrelated. And then when you see it go live, you transition in.
I will do testing. Yeah, I really don't love that. Should we do a timer?
Yeah, I'll, um, I'll do some like test streams next week. Oh,
oh my back. We don't have to do a timer that is as insane as the Nintendo one. Are you good?
Yeah. Okay.
Like the Nintendo Direct switch too, I think had like a, like a 45 minute timer or something.
Okay. They cut it out.
That makes sense. All right. Should we do this? Let's do this thing.
Oh wait, it's not five yet. Should I wait till five? Your discretion.
Discretion. I hardly know her. I'm not digging that.
I usually enjoy that. That was pretty bad.
I can't even give that one anything. I'm sorry. You already stretched your back, I guess.
What? I think it's the joke was a stretch. Oh my God.
This is going to be a rough show.
Do you have a ding for that one? Oh my God.
Yes, my son.
At least they're getting better. I'll give it that.
Mental breakdown, speed run. They're improving.
You can hate it here all you want. Ninja man away. You can never leave.
Wait. Ah, no one's home. You can never leave because you're not a tree.
Is it getting more painful for me? I get carpal tunnel.
This free shipping started at 150 or 100 site. So is both.
We should get that fixed before we go live. Where does it say 100? Because I'm pretty sure it's 150. 150 is the only one I'm aware of.
If you have a $50 item in your card already,
it might say 100 more. Then it'll say like spend 100 more here.
Oh yeah. That seems pretty clear. Good job, Conrad. Should be 150.
Oh, I'm going to ask the team to change that wording. I love this.
Free worldwide. Breaking news. Tariff, tariff, tariff, tariff, tariff, tariff, tariff.
Have you seen it? No. Here, let me.
Is it too new? Do you not have it? Whoa. Refresh your page.
Okay. Which one's the full one control, I think?
That. And then look at the bottom. Breaking news. Tariff, tariff, tariff, tariff, tariff.
That's awesome. This is such a great banner.
It's actually really good. Oh, okay. We've got the page live for you guys.
That's what I was doing on your laptop.
Wait, is that like an Artie Dave thing to change the wording of this, or does that have to go to Conrad?
I wanted to say free worldwide shipping. I think that's Conrad.
I'll message him. Cool. I mean, realistically, Conrad's probably watching the pre-show anyway.
It's very possible. Oh, there he is. He's got it. Yeah. Get back to work, Conrad.
I mean, but like actually though, because you want him to do something.
That's true. It's during work hours too, although he is pretty flexible hours.
Yep. Okay.
Yeah. What do I have in my cart? That's something in my cart. Oh, I have the terminally online hoodie.
Where does it say 100 though? Was it just that banner that confused the person?
I don't know. Because the banner seems clear enough to me that I don't think we should change it
personally. Okay. Cool.
Okay. Because it says, yeah, it says more.
I think it's weird. It's fine. And it's now updated to say worldwide.
All right. That was fast. What a guy. He's fast. His fingers are fast. He has fast fingers.
Steven animated and stuff. Let's go.
Let's go. It's time for us to turn this lemon into
lemon juice.
Well, it's not going to be lemonade. It's going to be a year, sir.
Would that just be like just no sugar? Is lemon juice just lemonade without sugar?
No, I think you also dilute it. You dilute lemonade. Yeah.
So no water, no sugar. It would just be lemon and water. Just squeeze the lemon.
Yeah. With water, like water. Also some water, but not enough water.
Diluted lemon. Yeah. Yeah. I'd drink some diluted lemon, I think.
Would you? It's bad terrible for your teeth. That makes sense. Yeah. Like a liqueur.
Memories of lemon. The quaw. Oh, we should go live. They squeeze the lemon near the sealed can.
I'm resuming the selected now. But.
But.
What's up, everyone? Welcome to the WAN Show.
We've got a great show lined up for you guys this week. We're going to be talking about, oh boy.
Everything. And nothing.
It's been a rough week. Yeah. Framework is pausing some US sales due to tariff uncertainty,
and it's not just them. Razer has taken down pricing and pre-order pages for new blades.
Other laptop vendors are doing all kinds of stuff. Nintendo has suspended pre-orders of the Switch 2 in the US and Canada.
We're going to be talking a little bit about that. We're also going to be talking about how this is
quite probably going to affect LTT Store as well,
which is why we have a major beat the Shipstorm.
Get it? The Shipstorm. Beat the Shipstorm sale event.
I'm talking. I don't. Can you explain? Free shipping on all orders over $150 plus a never before seen deal
on the MCM Essentials solution with our magnetic cable management
for almost 50% off. So we've got lots of great stuff going on on the store this week.
What are you talking about? That basically means you could get that another item
and get the other item and free shipping both for free.
If you think about it. Well, hopefully they won't think of that.
Nice. What else we got this week? Uh, it turns out the XT was inside us all along.
Apparently people are BIOS modding the 9070 and it's an interesting story.
Also, events! Jayce2Sense is having a tech fair thing and we're maybe talking about whale land stuff?
Yeah, events. Lots of events. Yeah.
Chipstorm event. Yeah.
The show is brought to you today by Vessie, Odu and AMD.
Also our RAP partner Dbrand, our laptop partner Dell and our chair partner Secret Lab.
Oh, should we get right into the situation this week?
Sure. Framework, investment disclosure, has paused some US sales due to tariff uncertainty on Wednesday.
Framework announced a temporary pause on US sales on some base framework laptop 13 models,
specifically the Core Ultra 5 125H and Ryzen 5 7640U.
Framework explained that even a 10% tariff would mean they are selling their lowest end
SKUs at a loss. Framework also paused all pre-orders for the laptop 12,
but have since unpaused all but the base models.
And personally, I found this whole thing extremely interesting because we've been able to get
over the last couple of weeks insight into the margin structures of these companies that we
otherwise wouldn't have gotten. Yeah. Basically, I mean, when Logitech increased the price of that mouse, when Framework basically went,
look, if we sell this thing, we're just going to be eating it on every unit we ship.
It told us explicitly what the margins are on these products.
And I got to say, I'm feeling a little validated because I've talked for years on this show for
years about how one of the biggest problems for the tech industry is that there is no margin in it.
I will admit, I knew that the margin on some components was really, really, really, really,
really low. I knew that things like cases, fans, it gets a little bit...
Power supplies. Power supply a little bit healthier.
I thought laptops had more. The laptop industry is cutthroat.
Apparently. Cutthroat is. I remember back when I worked at the best of buys, selling laptops and stuff like that.
I heard they're the best. They gotta be. It's in the name.
I remember seeing the cost because you could see the cost in your system.
And it was always really close to the actual amount we were selling it for.
But it was my understanding that through like... Spiffs.
Spiffs, kickbacks, other various things, it made it a lot better.
And we just didn't see that amount because we were allowed to show the customer the cost.
So it was like the fact that we were allowed to do that means there's some play here somewhere.
However, what I can tell you is that that invoice cost may have very well been
fairly accurate. Yeah. And yeah, they're going to be making a few more points on the back end.
But the tech industry is really, really tight.
Speakers and headphones are another example of categories where there's margin.
Yeah, I think it's like if AirPods alone were split off, they're bigger than like
Nike or something. But like crazy. Like why do you think that your manager was pushing you so hard to attach a printer?
Yeah. Yeah. Right? Because there was margin in pictures. Or insurance or software or whatever else.
Or something for the bag. You could go and you could tell your super, I sold 100 computer systems today.
They'd be like, get out. You know, look, they don't care.
Did you move attachments? Did you move other things? Exactly, exactly.
And it's not just framework on the laptop side.
Razer has taken down pricing and pre-order pages for their new blades.
HP, Dell and Lenovo have suspended shipments of notebooks and related products to the U.S.
for at least two weeks. Nintendo, we talked about this last week, suspended pre-orders of the Switch 2 in the U.S.
I think it was since then though. They have also, thanks a lot, suspended pre-orders of the Switch 2 in Canada.
This is from, actually, I'm not sure who prepped this topic. But I feel like I've been spared in this situation.
Oh yeah, because you weren't going to buy one at launch anyway. You're going to wait until Willow Video has them.
So the Lord only knows when that'll happen now. This might actually help in a weird turn of events.
This might help places like Willow. No, that could be true.
Weird turn of events, but it might. Apparently, it is speculated, or I don't know if this is for sure,
but apparently packaging for U.S. and Canada happens near Seattle.
So that could explain, if they're going into Seattle before they come up to Canada,
then that would explain why Canada would be impacted.
Approximately a third of Switch 2 production is happening in Vietnam,
and Nintendo has started routing most of those consoles to the U.S.
to hopefully avoid the worst of the tariffs.
Multiple automakers have also suspended shipments or orders to the U.S.
and China, whose tariff on imports of U.S. goods is now 125%,
so going the other way, says that there is no point in raising their tariffs further
because there is no longer any market acceptance for U.S. goods exported to China.
However, it is always worth noting that any statement from a Chinese official
should probably be taken with a similar amount of salt
to how salty Luke was before the show that I won WAN late today.
Completely unfairly. He won WAN late today while being late.
Well, at least. It genuinely makes no sense. It is not fair to have a contest where the decider of the contrast is on your payroll.
I think that it is not fair to park your car in a handicapped parking stall.
You seem perfectly able-bodied to me. I actually just was going so fast I didn't see the sign at all.
Which is a separate problem. But you were still late! You were still late.
I'm fine, not winning. You should also lose.
It is not about my victory, it is about your loss.
The China Semiconductor Industry Association published an urgent update today
clarifying how the country of origin of semiconductor products is determined.
For both packaged and unpackaged semiconductor products,
the location where the wafer was processed is deemed to be the country of origin.
And because China deems Taiwan to be part of its territory,
oh, okay, hold on.
That means that chips fabricated by TSMC, Micron, and other Taiwanese chip makers
will be exempt from the 125% duty imposed on US products.
Okay, I thought this was working against them when I first read it, but actually they're using the technicality of, oh yeah, Taiwan is definitely us
to justify not having to pay tariffs on TSMC fabricated goods.
Sure, China. I mean, that's really smart.
I guess. And the US tariffing Taiwan is like incredibly stupid.
By that logic, actually, I mean, shouldn't the US basically say,
well, since Canada is our 51st state anyway, there's no point in tariffing anything from Canada.
No, but the whole goal- Because neither of them have annexed either of those countries yet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. America's whole goal is continuing Canada's economic ruin
so that they can try to financially take us away. They do understand that Canadians are not going to do that, right?
Yeah. We're not just going to be like, oh yeah, economic victory, sieve, whatever.
I wonder, I wonder, you know, okay, I don't even know if I want to go into this.
No, I'll bring it up. You know how sieve seven, I don't know if you've heard any news about sieve seven,
but do you know how sieve seven? I heard it kind of flopped and then the first update was supposed to make it a lot better.
That's all I know. This is how sieve works every single time, to be fair.
This time, I'll throw this out there. I don't know if it's fixable. There are core things about the game that I actually just really don't like.
And I don't think they can fix. But one of the things like the Aztecs, the Aztecs, one of the problems is you couldn't
stay them if you chose them. You're, you're, no.
So if you start every era, if you're like Persians, then you just like become
every era. It changes wherever Persia became. But it could become hold on, hold on, hold on Iran.
I think so. Okay. Or if like, like, so you'll be the Ottomans at some point and or you'll be the Greeks
and you just turn into Romans or whatever changes because you just get and any leader
can lead any civilization. So you could be like Caesar.
So you could be Gandhi leading like the Australians or whatever.
Sure. I, I personally do not like it.
I don't like it. But anyways. No, you should get, you know, you should get to be like freaking.
I like one leader, one sieve the whole way through. It's been that way the whole time.
I understand they're trying to change things up. Sieve has been very similar for many years.
I, I, I understand the desire. Yeah.
Already saying the more I play sieve seven, the less I like it. And that was true.
I only played one full campaign and that was true for me the whole way through the campaign.
I liked it less and less and less and less and less the whole time. So tell me that actually, wait, did I even, I don't think I finished.
You say sieves been really similar for a long time. That's funny.
You bring that up because we actually shot a video earlier this week of younger people
reacting to the games that were formative for me and one of the games.
And I kind of picked not just games that I played a lot or enjoyed a lot,
but ones that marked significant milestones for me. So I have the first one that I ever upgraded my computer for.
I had the first one I ever bought a special peripheral to play. Cool. I have the first one I ever bought a tower upgrade for and it was civilization to test of time.
And the reason was that the emissaries were 3d rendered.
Yeah. So until then I only ever had software rendering.
I only ever played games that required software rendering. All of a sudden I needed a direct X six or something like a direct X accelerator and
at least eight megabytes of VRAM or whatever the requirements for 16 megs, something like that.
And I don't think spoiler for the video, I don't think that sieve to got a fair shake
because they only had like a few minutes to try each game. We weren't going to give them like six hours to familiarize themselves with civilization to.
But I do wonder if you as a sieve veteran could go back and play something like sieve to and
legitimately enjoy it still. Okay. I think yes, because and my reason for this was a long time ago.
I don't know if you remember this, but I did a stream for one of my birthdays where
it's a charity stream and I played one game for an hour for every year that I had been alive.
So I played one game for an hour that was released in 1990 and then I played one game
for an hour that was released in 1991. I went all the way through to current year and in that I played sieve one and in the hour
I took over all of Europe and Asia.
And I hadn't touched that game since I was like a wee lad.
That's pretty cool. So I think I could still figure it out.
Would you enjoy it though? I enjoy my question.
Did you ever play sieve two? Because I never played sieve one.
I'm fairly certain I did, but I haven't since it would have been like the current sieve.
It's been a long time. I tried to go back and play civilization one,
having played sieve two as my first sieve and I found it to just be utterly lacking in
depth creature comforts that I needed.
Sieve two felt like going from warcraft one to warcraft two.
Like it was just a better game in every possible way.
I never actually got into another one though.
And I know some of the other ones are really, really great,
but I just, I became an anno boy or more realistically warcraft three after that.
That was fantastic. Artie and I are extremely agreed on this.
Sieve five was the best one. Sieve six, I do think aged very well.
It got better. The expansions are really good and that type of stuff,
but I still think sieve five was kind of peak. But anyways, sieve six, I will give it as much as I didn't like it as much as sieve five.
It had a fantastic UI. The UI UX of sieve six was clean.
It felt good. It was a good experience. Sieve seven, there was a huge problem because the UI was really bad.
You know who pushed over 300 bug fixes for sieve for sieve six?
Again, sieve six's UI was fantastic. You know who pushed over 300 bug fixes for sieve six?
Him?
Luigi Mangione. What?
The guy who assassinated the guy? I'm not kidding.
Most based.
He was really good at sieve UI.
It was very good. It's probably the best. I love sieve five.
So six's UI was probably the best one they ever pushed. Sorry, he worked for them at that time?
Yeah. Oh, okay. I thought you meant like he was a super player.
No, I don't think so. You mean like actually pushed bug fixes? Like actually committed?
Over 300, yeah. Okay. I thought you meant like reported. So no, he actually like.
He fixed them. He made it good. He made it really good.
So you're saying that you appreciate the work of Luigi Mangione?
Yeah, he did great stuff for sieve.
So sieve six was fantastic. And by sieve, you mean civilization.
But like he did really good things for sieve.
Video game or civilization or you know what? His improvements to the civilization was really good.
Allegiance in chat. Fix your wording.
He allegedly did it right, right, right. Allegedly. How did we get on this topic again?
China does not rule out other forms of retaliation against the US.
Announcing that they are reducing the number of Hollywood films permitted to release and restricting import and export
rights for a number of US companies.
Our discussion question here is move directly to next topic.
Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. As a technically partial owner of framework,
how do you feel about the impact on frameworks business
and a frameworks future based on this? I know that you said the only thing that would cause you to pull out
was a change in their like, I don't know what I would call it, ideology principles, sure.
This doesn't feel like that at all. Oh yeah, no.
But how do you feel as a partial owner about the decision,
the direction, their margin?
I got to be honest with you and I'm sorry, Narav.
I am way more concerned about my own margin and my own store right now.
A framework is cool and all that literally every person that I've met there,
from CEO down, seems like awesome, legitimately awesome.
I was super impressed the first time that I met a broader group of the team there
because literally everyone I spoke to just so quick, so focused on what they're doing,
they just seem like a super focused company. They have a great culture as far as I can tell from basically the outside.
But they aren't my company. And I'm rooting for their mission.
I'm super excited for their mission. But I think that they have already opened a lot of eyes
and there's a lot of momentum. So in terms of my goal of what I was trying to achieve with the investment,
I think I've gotten a lot out of it already. I don't think this is going to kill them either.
No. I think this is a storm.
It's a little storm and I think they're going to weather it. It kind of helps. This is a storm that everyone's going through.
And realistically, it's not that I don't empathize.
I 100% empathize. But I've got to focus on keeping my ship upright right now.
This might be, I think it would be very reasonable for someone to say
that this is really stupid for me to bring up.
This is really stupid of you to bring up. Nice, cool.
I think it's interesting that software is dodging all of this.
Software is, oh. Because I'm wondering when that is going to flip
because a lot of America's exports is software.
Right. And nobody's doing that right now.
Interesting. Yeah, it's only physical goods. If you want to hurt them,
don't make that many physical goods that they export out. That's why they have all these trade deficits with these countries.
Yeah, I probably just wouldn't have brought it up. I don't know, dude.
But it's just really interesting. Nah, EU is on that.
Okay, so somebody's working. Oh, EU's on it. Okay. So like that's going to become part of the equation.
And then Flowplane is. Avon Fox says, yeah, the US has a huge surplus in entertainment media as well.
So China's already on that, allowing fewer. I mean, fewer films in China.
They were already super restrictive, not to mention being super restrictive in terms of the content.
I mean, when was the last time that we had like,
oh man, what are there? When was the last time we had a triad as a bad guy in a Hollywood film?
It's been a hot minute. Yeah, yeah. A little bit. I feel like it's like 90s, 80s.
Because basically, if you have like any Chinese funding, from what I understand,
if you have like any Chinese funding in your film, which they have invested extremely heavily in,
you pretty much have to follow China's censorship rules
in America, which is, yeah.
But that's like control of the import.
That's not even a tariff.
But yeah, I mean, they already blocked so much US media anyway.
The digital landscape is going to get really weird if that happens, because we've never had to deal with this anywhere.
It's been full free market forever.
I mean, no, there are. As far as tariffs are concerned.
A lot of tariffs in the world as it is. No, for digital stuff.
Oh, digital. Yeah, yeah. No, that's a fair point.
Back to making sure that our own ship is doing okay.
Yeah. We've got a pretty exciting sale event going on right now.
Love the graphic. I'm going to get real inside baseball for you guys here.
Basically, we have a lot of inventory that we had big plans for,
for Lime Day, so like upcoming promos.
Big plans for just, you know, having in stock so that we have things in stock on our store.
As we said last week, we're putting in place every mitigation that we can to shield our customers from as many price increases as we can.
But with that said, there will be some price increases in areas
where we simply cannot absorb any potential tariffs in our costs.
We don't know exactly what all of those costs will be,
because the whole situation is extremely fluid.
So what we're doing right now is before May the 2nd, when theoretically,
if everything goes according to what has currently been communicated,
costs for especially our US customers are going to go way up on our items,
is we are launching our Shipstorm sale.
We are doing free shipping, and this is not just for America, okay?
Free shipping on all orders worldwide, over $150 on LTT Store.
This is a pretty high-cost promo for us guys, so click that shop now,
and please make sure to add at least one thing
other than the MCM Essentials Solution Bundle. This is the lowest price we've ever done on this.
This is our headline deal to kick off this sale event.
It's $80 for, this is a really, really nice magnetic cable management kit,
so you can do a power bar, you can do a couple power bricks, whole bunch of zip ties, lots of cables.
We've even got one of the big boys in there, lots of metal plates for mounting them, cable ties.
Basically, everything you need to do to make your setup look like this.
Absolutely gorgeous, and yeah, while you're at it,
grab a commuter backpack, all right? Grab a precision multi-bit screwdriver and bit set.
Grab a screwdriver, stubby screwdriver, just... Oh, scribe driver, great time to pick up a scribe driver.
So throw together a cart, $150 free shipping.
Shout out Conrad for this awesome little animation at the top.
Yeah, the bar thing is really nice, actually. Show us how much you got to fill up your bar.
That's sweet. Things are going to be tight. I don't know what kind of promos we're going to be able to
afford to do over the next little bit. So now's a great time to get an order in.
We're going to get everything shipped out before the second.
And who knows? Maybe none of the tariffs will happen. I don't know.
I don't know what's happening. But I do know that we want to get out ahead of it and get you guys hooked up.
Garrett H. says, make LTT Store Canadian dollars.
We will be launching a Canadian dollar store at some point in the near future.
More work than you'd expect. Don't expect like one-to-one pricing.
If something was 99 US dollars on the US store, it's not going to be 99 Canadian dollars.
That is like literally not how it works. But we will have a Canadian pricing store.
We are working on all kinds of mitigations as much as we can, as fast as we can.
We're doing our best, guys. Our dollar is getting better.
Yeah, that is, oh my God, another basis point today.
Yeah. I don't remember the last time it moved this fast.
Actually, I do remember the last time it moved this fast because it was the 2008 financial crisis.
And I was working in product management at NCIX. So I remember exactly.
Dude, we used to place orders for product and literally have no idea what our retail price
was going to be because back to our conversation earlier about extremely thin margins in the
computer industry, for commodities like hard drives, it was a regular occurrence for NCIX
to be making maybe two to three percent by the time you factored in credit card or any
other processing fees, any labor or salespeople commissions associated with selling the product.
Like we were selling them at six, seven points gross.
But you have costs associated with bringing these things in, putting labels on them,
stacking them on shelves, like there's costs, right? And so functionally speaking, we basically didn't make a profit on them.
So if you had a two percent, three percent shifting forex in between when you place the
order and when you got it, you could literally put your price on the site based on your order.
And then by the time you actually get it and ship it, you're losing money. And making matters even worse, so much of our product was on net terms.
So it wasn't just the delay from shipment to receiving.
It was actually the delay sometimes from when we placed the order to 30 days after
we received the order when we would finally know how much we were paying for the product.
So you could bring in a talented GPUs, sell them for some price that you thought was profitable
by five percent, and then it turns out you actually sold them for a one percent loss, gross,
because the currency was all over the place.
It was madness. Dude, it was madness.
And when it swung the other way, obviously you were happy. But I mean, we would pull moves all the time.
Like we would try to hedge, right? Like we'd try to be like, hey, Kim, oh, sorry, I didn't see your bill.
Oh, we'll get to it right away. And we'd try to push things off a week, hoping that the currency would recover a little bit.
To be clear, I didn't do that. I was not involved in that, but I heard through the grapevine,
because I'd go to place another order. I'd be like, yeah, can I get another order? And they're like, no.
I remember you kind of like raging about this back when we worked there.
That was a separate issue. That was when they were running out of money. This was when we had money, but we just were deciding not to spend it
on the things that we had already gotten into our warehouse and sold to customers.
It was a whole thing. Got it. Oh, man.
Yeah. Anyways, is there a topic that isn't about the economy?
No, no, no. We're moving right into our next topic, which is more of a discussion.
There's been a lot of conversation this week about moving electronics manufacturing back
to the US, whether that's possible, and if it is, what that would look like.
One phone company, Purism, says that their $800 phone will become $2,000 when made locally.
In general, this is not related to Purism directly, materials would need to be sourced
and imported or mined and refined at home.
For instance, titanium, not found in America, and lithium, lots found in America,
but only one active mine. That's a really interesting part of the conversation that I think some folks are overlooking.
The time delay of getting more mines up and stuff. Well, not just that.
Sorry. Yes, that, but also an element of this that, pun intended, that I think is fascinating,
is the number of people that look at the cost breakdown of something like an iPhone or a
Purism phone or whatever it is, and they go, okay, well, the labor cost for it was X in Mexico
or in China or Vietnam or whatever. And it's X times whatever multiplier in America.
So realistically, and we've seen this argument where I think it was McDonald's,
or someone was like complaining that if they increased the minimum wage by some amount,
that it would dramatically increase their prices, but it turned out it didn't.
Well, yeah, because the whole Denmark thing, but anyway. But here's the thing. Here's the thing, right?
Because at the end of the day, everything, not just the assembly, everything is impacted.
It is ultimately labor, right? A hunk of lithium, the price you pay for it, well.
It's got to come from somewhere. You didn't pay the ground you took it out of.
You paid the people who extracted it. So if you actually were to, so these comparisons people are making are actually really apples
to oranges because they're looking at the sourcing of these raw materials that are being
done by people who are being paid far less than Western wages, regardless of whether they're
ethically sourced or whatever. It's still going to be a lot less than a Western wage.
So the calculations and terrorism may be doing the math, right?
I'm actually not sure, but I see comparisons that people are making that are like,
oh, this won't be that big of a deal. Remember when McDonald's complained that the labor cost going up?
Well, that's because all of their raw materials being produced by Western labor costs or whatever,
that was already factored in, whereas here they're not.
Now, most rare earth metals are mined in America, but supply of these may not be enough to meet
demand, at least not immediately. So new manufacturing sites would need to be built.
A lot is manufactured in America already, but some companies have overseas manufacturing
to supplement demand. For example, New Haven Display manufactures custom OLED screens in Illinois,
but they also have manufacturing over in China.
Actually, I'm sorry, I'm going to totally go off in a different direction for saying,
do you see Mr. Beast's comment about it? Oh, yeah.
He was pretty upset because he was saying his Feastables bars are manufactured in the US,
but the materials are coming from, he apparently, and look, this is all just based on his tweet.
Yeah, how much like cocoa comes from the States? He says he's working really hard to get like ethically sourced cocoa or whatever,
but it's not from America. So if he gets tariffed on those imports, all of a sudden the whole business model
makes no sense. And he's like, well, that could impact American jobs. Did anyone kind of, did anyone do that math?
Probably not. There's a lot of stuff like that.
There's mattress companies, and they have to get Dunlop latex.
Like, I don't think any of that exists in the States. I could be wrong, but I don't think any of it does.
But I believe they manufacture the mattresses up here.
I don't know what specific brand, but there's like interesting component stuff where it's
like, yeah, not everything grows or exists in specifically the United States.
New supply lines will need to be implemented. Some manufacturing projects take so many resources and people and time
that they essentially create small towns. I actually had never heard of this.
One of Apple's biggest final assembly test and pack out centers is in,
and I'm going to butcher this. I'm sorry, Zhengzhou.
Anyway, it's apparently called iPhone, is kind of referred to as iPhone city.
And the doc points out millions are employed in China by Apple alone.
New truck and train routes will need to be figured out since materials and goods will
have to move from one location to another. Still, this is going to, this is going to take some time.
And this may be, this may be a hot take, depending on the audience that I'm talking to.
But overall, I totally get what the US is doing.
It is actually a terrible, terrible plan to have critical supplies completely owned,
operated and controlled by a country that you are essentially locked in a cold war.
Adversarial with, yeah. Yeah, I get it.
I don't think there's a way to go about solving it. I'm not taking a position on that.
But yeah, I get that for sure. That wouldn't be very Canadian of me. Yeah, especially if it's like planes, boats, stuff like that.
100% and it's everything. It's microprocessors, it's AI, it's critical minerals, it's everything, right?
There's like practically no ship manufacturing in the States anymore.
It's like, yeah, that's knowing how America feels about their boats.
So that's maybe not a good thing. So that's a really interesting dynamic in all of this for me, is I'm looking at
what they're trying to accomplish, which is some freaking independence, some self-sufficiency.
I mean, they were independent a long time ago, but some self-sufficiency in a world where,
let's be honest, China has been engaged in economic warfare for as long as I can remember
in my adult life. Absolutely. I mean, look no further than what they're doing to attempt to destroy the automotive industry
in literally every other developed nation right now. I mean, they do this in a ton of ways too.
It's not just the automotive industry. They do this in lots and lots of ways.
So like waking up and finally playing ball totally makes sense to me.
Totally makes sense. Again, I just don't necessarily think this is the way to do it.
And cleaving every single other country that exists and some of your own military bases and stuff
is maybe not the way to go about it. So here's the thing though, is that if you, well, okay, no, I'm not going to try to explain
why they did that. There are some potentially valid reasons why they cast such a wide net in order to prevent,
pass through shipping, tariff avoidance. Whole thing.
G. Coons in Floatplane chat says, at Linus, any suggestions on how to do it better?
And I think you basically nailed the curse that I live with.
I am smart enough to recognize the situation for what it is, but I am not smart enough to solve it.
Well, you're not like an economic. And I'm not shameless enough to pretend that I know how to solve it and to offer you easy answers.
So I basically kind of sit here as helpless as anyone else while everything happens around me.
I honestly, some days envy the people who just don't really seem to understand some of the negative
impacts of this and what they will potentially be because it seems like they seem happier.
It's interesting up here too, because there's some sentiment of like, oh, like we can still get
cheaper stuff, right? Like the switch is probably not going to be exceptionally expensive up here unless they just
mirror the price, which happens sometimes. Which they could very little do.
It's decently common that Canadian pricing is just, you know, dollar conversion to US pricing.
Yep. But these are, this is unprecedented in my lifetime.
Yeah. So how everyone's going to handle it could be all over the map.
I mean, you never know. Nintendo tomorrow could say, hey, you know, we actually have enough switches to start shipping
these right now. We're going to keep them software locked until, you know, after the official launch date that
we announced or whatever. But yeah, you know, we took a page out of, out of LTT stores book and we were like,
emergency sale, everyone buy your switches now and then we'll just leave them software locked
until they probably won't. There's no way Nintendo would do that, but they could conceivably.
They could conceivably do that. I mean, they've been manufacturing switch twos for months now.
If the rumors are anything to go by. By the way, just want to remind you guys now is the time to pick up some pre-tariff,
pre-tariff LTT Store merchandise free worldwide shipping on orders over $150.
You're going to hear me talk about this a fair bit today because we need to move some inventory.
Go, go, go. I thought it was kind of funny. I was reading something the other day.
I forget a lot of the details because we're skimming it, but Canada and Japan are in talks
about like working together for market stability. And I was like, man, like two of the like, it's cool.
That's a good thing. We should probably do that kind of sucks. And it's like two of the worst.
Like what is it? G20, whatever economies right now. We're like, yeah, let's try to not be so bad together.
It's like, oh man, all right.
Cool, man. Yeah, let's, let's figure it out. Well, we've got our overpriced housing crisis.
They have their worthless countryside, can't give them away housing crisis.
We've got our sort of, we had no idea what we were doing with immigration crisis.
They've got their, well, we don't have immigration crisis.
We just entirely forgot that our birth rate sucks too.
Oh yeah. I don't know how we solved that one. We sort of just forgot that GDP per capita is supposed to go up.
We just decided like, nah, we'll just leave it where it is. We didn't force it with, with capita.
Yeah. Yeah. What does that have more? All capita all day. Let's have more. Don't bother building, don't bother building more houses in spite of the fact
that we're a global leader in supply of softwood lumber. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's not use any of it here. No, no, no, no. That all has to go away.
That all has to go away by default. It has to go away.
It can't stay.
Yeah, we have our own problems. If that was ever unclear, whenever we are pointing out issues in other countries,
that is not because we are not really big ones actually acutely aware of the problems
that we have here in Canada. When your GDP per capita goes up by 0.5% over the course of 10 years,
you got some things to work out. Cobbie says, please do the all good news WAN Show soon.
Please. I'm tired, man. We've tried multiple times.
We genuinely really tried multiple times. Hey, I got some good news for you.
On Elton's store right now, you get free worldwide shipping on any order over $150.
We've got an amazing promo running on our magnetic cable management essential solution.
I don't forget you can pick up the commuter backpack. I don't know if the price is going to go up for this.
It might, it might not. I don't know if the prices could go up. They could stay the same.
Our mouse pads are the same price no matter what size they are. Same for our water bottles.
Oh, you can get a framework embroidered hoodie. I promise you that an all over embroidered hoodie is going to cost a lot more than $150
if it's made in the USA. Go, go, go.
All right. What else we got today? Dan, what are we supposed to be doing? Oh, let's move maybe into some merch messages.
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Okay. Add an item to your cart and you'll see the merch message field pop up.
You go ahead and populate that. It'll go to producer Dan who will do something with it today.
Realistically, there's going to be a lot of them. So we'll get to as many of them as we can.
Or Dan will reply to them himself and his fingers will get arthritis,
or he will forward it to someone internally, get an answer for you. Whatever the case may be, Dan will take care of it.
And some of them will be curated for me and Luke to address.
Dan, go ahead and show them how that works. Absolutely.
So the first one I've got for you here. Do you think the Switch 2 is a unique position because it still has exclusives,
not on other platforms, while most AAA games are cross-play compatible?
Or would that cause a decline for Nintendo? Dude, I think Nintendo, by sticking to making, keeping a console a console,
has actually crushed it. There's two companies selling closed-down computers,
and there's one company selling a console. Nintendo seems to be the only horse left in the console race.
And to be clear, I'm not saying that I disagree with Microsoft's move
to make the Xbox and the PC a more cohesive ecosystem.
In fact, I think they could do more to make them more value-added to each other.
Like, we're owning a PC. Right now, if you own a decent PC, I can't think of any good reason to have an Xbox.
I want to want the Xbox app on my computer.
Oh, dude. And right now, I super don't. All it does is kind of get in my way when I'm trying to do something.
Super don't. And maybe part of that is just because I've already solved all the problems
that the Xbox app would solve for me, because I'm like old school.
Like, maybe if I was a young kid who came from Xbox and got a PC,
I'd be like, oh, yeah, Xbox app. That's how I screen record. That's how I do that.
Whereas I'll just open OBS. So maybe that's part of it. But also, I just...
There's certain default behaviors that just don't make any sense to me.
Like, the fact that I press the Xbox button on my controller
when I'm in Steam Big Picture and by default, Microsoft puts their Xbox overlay in front of...
I'm using fucking Steam right now. I am not using Xbox app right now.
I get why you want the Xbox button to do Xbox things, but then you got to work with partners like Valve to make sure that
the Xbox button doesn't do really important things in Steam as well.
Right? Like, it's just... It's not cohesive. And I don't...
Again, I don't have the solutions. Yeah, me neither.
But I definitely can identify the problems. You know, it's not as bad as like the Vista era games for Windows Live trash.
It's not as bad as that. But you still have like, you know, Forza Horizon 5.
It was a great game. Practically impossible to play with your friends
because trying to do the Microsoft version of friends stuff
was just an absolute nightmare. The one that I feel will be left out in the cold either way.
Now that Microsoft has quadrupled down on functionally just being a game publisher,
game developer, behemoth, is Sony.
Because I don't really understand what the identity of the PlayStation is going to be
when it's just, functionally speaking, a timed exclusive box.
Right? Like, it's a hardware access key for timed exclusives, as far as I can tell.
The DualSense controller is outstanding and works best on PlayStation.
So that's something.
What else are they doing? And to be clear, I think they have, I don't think there's really any debate
that they won this generation between them and Microsoft.
Right? Like at the Xbox series. Like, they won the battle.
Man, I do honestly think that a significant part of Microsoft's challenges with Xbox
come down to the confusing naming scheme. Oh, I agree.
Like, dude, we saw what happened to the Wii U, right?
And Microsoft saw that and was like, let's go even worse.
I'm not 100% confident of what the current one is.
It's the Xbox Series X. Yeah, I thought so. So that replaced the Xbox One X.
And also, there's a Series S that replaced the Xbox One S.
And before that was the Xbox... Oh crap.
One? Oh shoot, was there a One X?
Crap, uh-oh. I think there was a One X. Yeah, one. Yeah, that's right. This is the problem.
And then before that was the 360, and then before that was...
But the original Xbox and the Xbox 360 were great names.
I disagree. I like 360.
Remember all the speculation that the next one would be 720? Yeah.
Um, even that would have been better than what we have now.
But it should have just been Xbox Two, period. I'm sorry.
I can't get behind... They could have even pulled...
What's their nuts? Who did this? I forget. Someone recently on the phone side, I think...
Was it Samsung or something? I can't remember. But one of them basically like, or maybe it was Apple,
that like skipped a number or something so that they could...
So that they could kind of realign things with, you know, years or something like that.
I forget. Someone did this. Didn't they do that when they went to the X iPhone X? But I could see...
Like, I could see Microsoft just skipping two and going straight to three so that it's clear that the Xbox Three
competes against the PlayStation Three. So they could kind of get realigned, but...
I think they could have done that. I think they could have done that with the 360 naming
and then gone to like 460, 560, whatever. And just had it not been based on the circle.
So I think it was called 360 because of the circle. Sure, but they could have done Xbox Infinity and done two circles.
They could have done freaking anything other than one.
Yeah. One was terrible. One X was terrible. Series X was terrible.
It's all been terrible. 360, I definitely agree is deba...
I liked it, but it's very debatable. I can understand someone not liking it.
Beyond there, it's just trash. And it's a funny thing because I don't...
I don't know any living, breathing, like through their nose,
not like through their mouth. Like I don't know any non...
Actually, no. I don't know any even remotely functional human
capable of producing words that thinks that the Xbox naming scheme is good.
So who are the... Who is driving this?
I actually want to like interview them. Middle managers.
No, they can't be. It can't be because middle managers would take the safe route.
Only executives can do something that fucking stupid.
Middle managers have to get buy-in. We should get Phil Spencer.
He would never, but we should get Phil Spencer to join my show and just be like, what's going on?
I'm sure he's been asked this a thousand times. You're wanting to get more and more into the PC space
and make the Xbox ecosystem a big thing. You're trying to partner with handhelds.
You're trying to do stuff like that. That's our realm. If you want buy-in with this community,
come here. Come on our show. Talk to us. Yeah, talk to the community.
Yeah, because we don't understand. So if you can make us understand,
you're going to have a huge win. Come join the show.
Talk to us.
He's not going to talk to us. He never will. He never will.
What was the question? But seriously, I think it's reasonable.
Oh, hold on. I wanted to go somewhere else with that. He won't, but I think it would be reasonable. I wanted to go somewhere else with that.
Do you think that Nintendo, because I think Switch 2
will be successful. I don't think it's going to be Switch 1 successful.
I don't think it's going to be we successful. There's no great secret.
Nintendo knocks it out of the park when they deliver
cheap enough hardware and great games. That's the formula.
And I don't think the Switch 2 delivers on that formula quite.
I think 450 is something that will end up under people's
Christmas trees, but not as many. And that's going to hurt their ability to build an enormous
library for it and all of those things that knock on effects.
They also lost the regi factor. So the Wii Sports equivalent, whatever it's called now,
the stupid tutorial thing is a paid. You've got to be. They got to be.
I don't care how many dollars it is. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It needs to be zero.
It should be zero. Yeah. Agreed 100%. Like they're losing those types of things, which is bad.
But tell me this, because I think Switch 2 is going to do fine.
I don't think it's going to be a Wii U, but I don't think it's going to be a Wii.
What about what's coming next? Yeah, I don't know. There isn't a lot of...
Like VR seems like a dead end. Sony gave up.
Motion control was super innovative and cool at the time,
but even Nintendo seems to have mostly given up on that, aside from, you know, like Wank mini games and Mario Party or whatever.
I don't think Nintendo is going to do anything that you put on your face.
I don't think Nintendo is going to do VR or AR.
So like, are we just... Is it just Switch 3, Switch 4, Switch 5?
Like, because that was the whole thing with Nintendo. That was their identity, was they didn't need to compete toe-to-toe
with the, you know, the HD juggernaut.
When they had... Oh, but we have second screen that you can like sit on the toilet
and stream your game from. Like they had the gimmick factor.
What is Switch 2's gimmick? I know they did. My point is I think they're going to in the future.
Yeah, the shitty mouse thing is weird.
Yeah, my bad.
Like, what is that? And you know what? Maybe I'm going to be so wrong.
Oh, I think people will use it. I still think it's going to be better for shooter games. Like maybe they're going to use it for like, you know, weird,
you know, leg-wank game or something like that. So you can...
Well, I don't know. Like, because you can use an optical sensor for anything.
It doesn't have to be a mouse pointer. Here's a question. There was a sports game for Switch, right?
The Wii Sports equivalent thing? I think there was some kind of sports game for Switch.
I don't remember what the Dillio was with it, though.
Nintendo Switch Sports. Yeah, did anyone care?
I don't know, but I feel like they kind of need it. Like if a Nintendo Switch Sports falls in a forest,
does anyone hear it? Like, I don't...
Like, here's a potentially hot... Aramine says, I love it.
And Interested Panda says, wasn't good. So, all right.
I think if they effectively just took Wii Sports
and spruced it up a Wii bit, get it,
and put it on Switch 2 and made it free,
like it was with the original Wii, I think the Switch 2 would kill.
Because... Isn't the new tutorial paid, right? Yeah, stupid. I'm not even talking about the tutorial, though.
I'm talking about a sports game. A Monday game. It wasn't just the tutorial features of Wii Sports
that people liked. People genuinely really liked the game. I had a fun time playing Wii Sports.
And anyone any age could play it. Absolutely. And that's Nintendo's killer thing.
That was probably the first thing, the first gaming experience,
the only gaming experience that I ever shared with my in-laws.
Yeah. My mom loved it. My dad at least liked it.
The Wii brought us together in the living room. Yes. In a way that... And that's what Nintendo does.
The Switch doesn't. And that's why I'm saying they're not going to make something that goes on your face.
Right. Because they want it to be a family thing. All of their commercials, there's multiple people playing.
You think about Xbox or PlayStation commercial, maybe they show people playing together online,
but not usually in the same room anymore. Yeah. And it's like the lights are out.
Yeah. And like there's RGB. Game remote. And someone's like locked in.
Switch is often... Brightly lit. Multiple people hanging out in a brightly lit
same room situation. Yeah. So I think they got to embrace that.
What are they going to do to move that forward, though? I think they tripped on the release personally.
They should... That tutorial thing should have been free and it should have actually just been a sports game
that also had tutorial features.
And then I think they would have killed... look, take the Wii format, rinse, repeat.
And they've said up front that they're aiming to make money on the hardware this time.
I don't work for Nintendo. You know, I don't know their mind, you know, but I...
Or we could be wrong. And I could be wrong, but I feel like why are they
breaking a formula that has worked so well?
And then every time that they've deviated from it has not worked? Yeah, get consoles and people's houses.
It works. And then they'll buy games every once in a while
because they want something new to do. Because the buying of the game is an easier cost
to stomach even with the inflated price
than a whole freaking console. How big...
How excited do you think people would have been if the Switch 2 was launching and Mario Kart World
was a pack-in for $450? Dude, that would have cranked.
People would have went nuts. Yeah, 100%. And they could have been temporary.
Like they could have done it for the first month or the first three months or something like that.
Because think about how the original Xbox sold, right? Halo.
Yeah. And it wasn't a pack-in, but everybody bought it with Halo.
But what would happen is they would essentially
turbocharge, pun intended, the adoption of this new console
while generating some revenue. And realistically, over the lifespan,
I mean, if Mario Kart World is going to be another 10-year game
like we saw with Mario Kart 8, they will make back their development cost
once they stop packing it and people will still buy it.
Yeah, like first two, three months it's packed in. Sure, that'd be interesting.
Here's a hot take on Switch 3. I think I've devised what they do.
Okay, I'd love to hear it. Camera with AI detection of movement and tracking.
So you can do things. Yeah, that could probably be done by the time of Switch 3 rolls around.
Like sports things or dance games or whatever. Bring back dance games.
Where there's like actually really good tracking on things, so they're not blank games anymore.
Holy s***, you could bring back Rock Band
because you could just do everything with the camera.
So the peripherals wouldn't even need to be plugged in.
That would actually be sick. So, and we're assuming that it's going to be
another six to eight years. Probably. We're assuming that the kind of AI processing
that you'll be able to do on a little thing will advance far enough to do that kind of real-time tracking
of like drumming and whatever else. The speed and stuff might be a little bit rough right now, but you can do a lot of that right now on a phone.
So like, yeah, give us eight years, it should be pretty cheap to pack into a console.
Interesting, you could play Wii Sports
with just like actually probably better motion controls
and you could have a really rudimentary gyroscope in. Sure, you could have some controller.
I just think you could use full-scale tracking. You could probably do it.
Yeah, I feel like it'll be something like that because Nintendo's going to try to get you together
and up and moving and family friendly and stuff like that. So I think this could work.
And my hint for it was that they are selling cameras
for the Switch right now. Yeah, okay, all right. I don't think that's a...
That's a path forward, that's something. That's something.
Okay, Dan. Hey, LLD, with Anno117 coming out this year, allegedly.
What improvements or quality of life are you hoping for in the franchise?
At this point, I'm hoping they just don't sieve 7 the UI.
I have the lamest take on this in the world. Anno1800 was perfect.
And if they just do that with the skin, then it'll be a great game. This is the lamest take in the world and have the exact same one.
I mean, they put, dude... How all good games should work. Just give me a cool theme and really don't change a bunch.
A lot of the expansions for Anno1800 were really just
more of the same. Yep, and they were great.
And yeah, that team put so much love and care
into what they do. There's so much depth to the gameplay.
The voice acting is great. The characters are so fun.
I actually never played the campaign.
I did. I dabbled like a tiny bit, but I like... It's pretty good.
Okay, cool. I didn't really need it.
Yeah, it's pretty good. I just love... It's really not a big deal, and I don't think it needs to get much better, personally.
They could make it a little better, I'm sure. There's some possibilities there, but I don't think it needs a dramatic change.
It's basically just the multiplayer, but with some themed tasks.
And I love how they handled their microtransactions.
They felt more like classic game expansions
because they really did literally expand the game.
Which made me completely cool with it. Everything that was great about it
and made it bigger and more better and deeper.
Again, back to what I just said. With love.
With thought, with care, with love. Making sure that the expansions
don't wreck the balance of the original game
and destroy what was great about it. And make it so you don't need them.
You can still just play the original game and enjoy it. The only thing is...
And the way the multiplayer works is, depending on which expansions you each own,
you just activate or disable them for your joint play session.
So not everyone has to have sunken treasures or whatever else.
You don't have to have every expansion. There's things that I think they could improve,
but I wouldn't want dramatic changes. I bet you they could make expeditions a little bit cooler.
Okay. Would you want them to be grittier?
Could your people need... Do you need to have anti-drug enforcement?
Or something like that? Could they make it grittier?
I don't think so. Just an idea. Okay. What about land combat?
Because the original Anno... Anno 16.02 had land combat.
It was kind of terrible. It was janky, but it existed. And it was an aspect of conquering islands
that in my opinion, conquering islands is a bit too easy in Anno 1800,
at least against the AI characters. There's no land campaign. You don't have to do anything.
You just destroy their warehouse. And there's also economic victory
where you can buy shares in their island. But there's no land campaign.
You can't conquer stuff. You can't take over what's there.
So there's no actual capture of anything.
I'd love to see... Okay. You know what? No. I got ideas.
I mean, it won't help with 11-7 or whatever it is
because it's too old. But I would have loved to see naval combat.
Not just firing cannons at each other, but I'd love to see ship-to-ship combat.
Like, sorry. Ship-to-ship hand-to-hand combat
where you can capture a ship. Thank you. Boarding. That's the word I was looking for.
Yeah, that'd be kind of... I don't know how you do that mechanic. Boarding on the water. You could have waterboarding.
In the bay. I don't know how you do that mechanic
in a top-down game. Super well.
I mean, you could... Sure, there's some way. No, you could do it. This has been done before.
So you could approach the enemy ship
and then you could just have an event that pops up that basically goes auto-calc or manually...
What's the other one, basically? It would switch to an RTS game?
Because that's... And it wouldn't be...
As someone who only ever played ANO 1800, you could go, oh, well, that's not ANO.
But 1602, literally the first game, had that. You could grab your soldiers
and click and move them around and fight and micromanage. And it was a bad RTS, but it was an RTS.
Yeah, I don't know if there is a result there where it's actually good.
That's one of the concerns that I think I have. Okay, that's fair. That's fair.
Because in my opinion, one of the reasons why the naval combat works pretty well
is because they needed to build a lot of those systems anyways for all the shipping and stuff.
So they're building on top of other systems. There is no other system that would use...
Oh, what about bribery? Bribery would be an interesting element.
Bribery would be cool. You know, you could...
Tariffs would be interesting. Doesn't that exist?
Well, you can charge more for goods or less for goods or whatever else.
And the people just won't give us food. Man, trade is so complicated to build a good interface for.
Like even Loving Anno, I don't really use trade with the NPCs much.
I just trade amongst my own stuff because it's kind of too much work.
Or I'll set certain things like the guy who runs the prison.
He buys soap at a good price. So I'll distribute soap from my production island
to all my islands that need it. And then I'll dump whatever's left at his island
before going back to pick up more. So if you have a surplus production
in your nation or whatever, then you can make money that way.
But generally speaking, a little bit too tedious.
Hoopmon says that's getting pretty close to a total war game. That's fair. Maybe that's part of why I'm talking about it
because I did enjoy total war games back in the day when we played a modern one.
I'm getting a concern. Like when you have too many focuses for a team...
That's true. It will inevitably diminish certain other things.
That's fair. And it could alienate the people that really just like building sprawling empires.
Yeah. I do think an ability to potentially do that.
Like maybe you have certain ships. Spycraft.
Spycraft would be sweet. But what would you spy? Because there's no tech tree.
And I don't know. But if you could have them influence riots.
Oh, sure. Or like economic sabotage.
Yeah. That would be interesting. So if you can screw up someone's like...
What are those things called? The like trade centers where you install the things and it buffs the area around them?
Oh, trade unions. Trade unions. Yeah. If you could have them like sabotage trade unions.
Yeah. That would be interesting. There could be potentially interesting things
that you could do there. All right. Well, sure. In that case, I'm excited for N0117 and...
If they made a ship that was built for boarding,
but it was notably weaker. So you had to have it be part of a fleet.
And then if you could damage another ship and then use that ship to board them.
And then if you did that action, it just gave it to you. But then thinking about how much there is to do in N0,
like would you have time to micromanage that? Probably not.
And that's part of what keeps it so engaging is that there's always something...
One more shipment to attend to.
One more trade to complete. One more expedition to follow up on.
I think it might be kind of flow breaking. So maybe... Yeah, maybe not.
You know what? I'm going to leave it to the experts. Oh, sorry. Is it 1107 or 1107?
I actually don't know. I'm pretty confident. I haven't been paying attention.
And I've said this before and been super wrong. And I've said this before and been super right.
So who knows? But I'm pretty confident it's going to be good.
I hope so. I don't see... Like looking at the pattern of actions that they did for 1800.
I don't see them breaking that so much with the really positive community sentiment that they had
and everything else to take some... They're also going to want to innovate though.
So they're going to take some risks and hey... And I'm sure they'll do some stuff. There's definitely areas that could be better.
I think visibility of income and quest could be better.
I think expeditions could be more engaging.
Yeah. Right now it's just like... It feels like a choose your own adventure book.
Where there's like almost always a obvious right answer.
Yeah. Well... It's a little bit too easy to be... Or a lot of the time just isn't because...
There is either no right answer or no good answer. Everything's a die roll and it's just like,
okay, this could have been automated. Yeah, it just doesn't feel super great.
Yeah. It's not terrible or anything, but it's not super great.
Rod says Luke doesn't know. What do I not know? Oh, did I say I don't know?
Darn it. Darn it. Thanks Rod. Darn it. Okay.
Yeah, there are things that they could improve, but I don't want dramatic changes.
Hit us with one more. Do we even have a third?
Oh, do we not? I mean there's so many.
Yeah, but most of them were like, thank you for free shipping.
Oh, that makes sense. Ha, ha, ha.
My things. I have acquired goods.
Thank you very much. Bless. I think I got one from Paraguay and from Portugal
and so many from Australia. That's going to cost.
Yep. Let's go. So they're just getting them in there before...
We just sell a lot of stuff to make money. Let's eat all our margin by giving everyone free shipping.
No, no, the more they order, the more we can kind of absorb the shipping cost,
but also the more the shipment costs to send. Yeah, but you guys designed it.
You guys designed it. They don't do that. You want me to even break it down.
I'm sure people have figured it out. You guys designed it in a particular way,
which is interesting. We did? Yeah. What did we do?
I'm curious. I know what we did, but what did we do? Well, there's the one primary discount on...
Yeah, loop laptop. Where is it? Weep.
Weep. You can't find it this way. Oh, there you can.
There it is. One primary discount. You need $150 to break the shipstorm.
So if you already wanted MCM, this is now down to $79.
If you top it up, there's a variety of ways to do this on the store to almost exactly $150,
then you get this, an item, and free shipping all for the original price.
Oh, that's actually totally not what we did.
That's nice though. That's a crazy way to go about it. That's super cool.
Yeah, no, that's not what we did. Basically, we just did the math for how little we're making on that
and how much averaged out over the world shipping
will probably cost us knowing that our orders skew
much more international when we do a shipping promo
and hoping and praying that the other things
that they add to the cart will be things with reasonable margin on them
and that most people will exceed the exactly $150
and that we will come out ahead. Is that happening so far? Can you see?
I mean, I can, I guess. Don't look.
You don't think so, Dan? Because I don't feel like I want to make him sweat a little bit.
No, people are, people are going crazy because I think they just want $199.
They've been looking to do a big order. This person just doesn't care. $75.
Well, who does that? Screw yourself.
And the horse it rode in on. I didn't get the kill measurement stuff.
Just whatever. I'm just shopping like normal.
Okay. I got one here. That's 330 bucks from Poland.
Damn. Oh boy, that's gonna stay. $159, $159, $189, $169, $199, $154, $199, $154, $154.
Sorry, my report is... $159, $154. Shopify changed their...
$154. There's a lot of $154s. Shopify changed their dashboard
and I kind of don't know how to use it anymore. I don't spend that much time in it
because we have people who work here whose job is to do that.
People found you can get $4.97 over the free shipping
with a specific set of things.
And a bunch of people did it. The top selling items though, actually, are the...
Oh God. Yeah. Okay.
We're gonna be okay. Like realistically, this is about burning
some inventory right now and we are achieving that.
We're not doing much more other than achieving that right now.
I will say though that the next best selling item is actually Commuter Backpack.
Oh nice. So it's the MCM obviously.
It's that Essentials bundle that's crushing it. It's well in the lead.
So with Commuter Backpack, if that's the only thing you buy, you just get free shipping on it?
Not quite. Oh. Because the Commuter Backpack is $149.99.
Nice. But there's lots of like relatively low cost items
on the store that you could add to that.
Yeah. Backpack is next... Oh, in terms of revenue dollars,
not in terms of units. I'm not sorted by units. But yeah, no. It's cable management, Commuter, Backpack,
screwdriver, precision screwdriver, framework hoodie.
A lot of people seem to be waiting for a deal on the framework hoodie. So they're moving a bunch of those.
It's a nice hoodie I like wearing it. Water bottle scribe drivers. It's all the usual suspects.
But hey, don't forget about the apparel. Yeah. Don't forget about that.
Okay. Dan, hit me with one more. Oh wait, no two more topics? Let's do two more topics.
Yep. I gotta get some water anyway. All right.
Jay's Two Cents is having an LTA.
A Tech Fair. He's holding what he's calling the SoCal Tech Fair
on May 3rd and May 4th. Let's go. You'll be able to meet awesome creators
like Bitwit, Austin Evans, Jay himself, and more.
They are promoting Tech Family Feud. There's going to be some industry panels,
Raffles, SimRig Challenge, and so much fun stuff.
Let's go ahead and, oh shoot. That's a link to the video I had.
I actually wanted to go to the website. There's also a huge garage sale
featuring iBuyPower certified refurbished hardware
and some of Jay's own lightly reviewed hardware as well.
And why the iBuyPower?
Oh, right, right, right, right. Because they're like the, like, code.
Co-hosting or whatever. Yeah, yeah.
Isn't height, is height an affiliated brand with iBuyPower?
Actually don't know. I believe so. I don't actually know.
I know NZXT is. I don't know that height is.
Well, okay. I think they are. NZXT isn't, but anyway.
Okay, let's go on special SoCal. Tower of Power?
On Height's support website, it says that height is the sister brand of iBuyPower.
Okay, there you go. Okay, Tower of Power. So they're doing like motherboard, tower build things,
PC speed builds, race Jay's car.
Buy nothing, trade-in booths. That's pretty cool.
Oh, in the sim, okay. I just heard you say race Jay's car.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, they've got actually a bunch of great partners
for this Intel, AMD, ASUS, Corsair, Pulsar, Hall of Tech, CyberPower PC.
Oh, did we just look for Eventbrite? No, that doesn't make any sense.
Did we, what, sorry? Look, this is what I have. What did you do?
What are you doing, Luke? What is that?
I clicked on the link in the talk. Oh, did we break it?
Hold on. No, no, mine's still loading. Weird. Okay, well, anyway, if you're in Southern California.
There we go, it loads now. Then yeah, maybe check it out.
I guess that's it. Our discussion question. Oh, who wrote this?
Our discussion question is, when is LTX coming back?
We don't have a plan to bring back LTX.
Some people seem very confused about this fact,
but LTX was never profitable. Oh, yeah.
We were explicitly clear about it at every stage, but for some reason, some people are very stupid
and can't figure out that, that means that we're not really profitable at it.
There are things we could have done to make it more profitable. But we didn't do them.
But we didn't. We spent a ton of money to make LTX what it was,
and at this point, unless we could make LTX what it was
and what I wanted it to be, I don't really see the point of doing it.
The last one was really cool. It was a really, it was a high note to end up on.
We had something like 60, 70 creators or something. I can't remember what the number was,
but it was incredible. That group dinner was awesome.
It was sweet. I'm probably including plus ones in that number.
That's probably why that number didn't come to you. I really liked the last LTX.
Yeah, it was great. The one before that was pretty solid as well,
but the last one was like kind of premium. Pretzel Parkour says, you said 2023 was profitable,
but it put a huge strain on the team. It was profitable in terms of gross profit.
It was not profitable in terms of net profit. Once we factor in all the time that we spent on it,
it was a huge strain on the team and it wasn't. A lot of different ways to measure that stuff.
What he's kind of talking about is like the writers needing to work potentially over time and stuff
in order to prep for LTX and make their videos leading up to it.
Not just writers, logistics. That doesn't necessarily get factored into direct cost.
Creator, warehouse, everyone. It was all hands on deck and it just crushed us.
If we can't make it what we envisioned it to be,
then I'd rather that the last one just be,
it's Swan Song. With that said, I'm actually really excited about Whale Land.
Yeah. Not the first one. Is that part of the dock this week?
Okay, there it is. What the hell do you want to do at Whale?
Okay, so we had our infrastructure test.
Was that two weeks ago? A week ago? I can't remember. Time is an illusion that I do not look at.
Okay, so we had our infrastructure test where we went. We wanted to make sure that all the networking
and power was working and thank goodness we did because it turned out that three
of our California standard 50 amp power plugs
were just not hooked up at the breaker panel.
Electricians told us it was hooked up. They ran the cables there.
They just weren't in the breaker panel. It turned out that it was a bit of a,
a bit of a, you take it, I got it situation
with the lighting contractors who went and took those breaker spots and then whoever was working
on the power plugs was like, oh, I mean, they're occupied.
So someone else's job, see you later.
Is my understanding of what happened? Who knows, but that makes sense.
Not super happy with how that all went down. But the good thing about the contractors
that we used for that building, the general contractor that we used for that building,
is that while they were very expensive,
they are the kind that you follow up with, you know, six months, nine months after completion,
and they actually mostly return your calls
and try to deal with things. So my understanding is that it is being dealt with.
So I appreciate that. I wish it didn't happen in the first place,
but I appreciate that it's mostly being dealt with.
Anyway, so it's a really good thing that we did that test.
And it's also a really good thing that we brought a bunch of gamers out to do that test,
because I think that Whale Land
has a bit of an identity crisis right now.
You know, I think Luke and I approached it as like,
I remember getting together with friends and playing video games and those being treasured memories.
And the most obvious way to do that is, you know, like a BYOC, bring your own computer.
You drag your rig out, all your peripherals. This is what we did. You set everything up for, realistically,
you know, an entire weekend of gaming, and there's, you know, ball's energy drink,
and pizza takeout, and it's a whale of a time, right?
But what we kind of, or what at least, I don't know,
I realized, and this was based on talking to other,
it was staff and plus ones that we brought out for the infrastructure test.
Talking to other people. What I put together is that maybe BYOC is dead,
and maybe that's okay. Might be.
So hang with me here for a second, because it is pretty much a guarantee
that the very first Whale Land
will probably be basically a BYOC.
But I have what I think is a,
okay, I've got people saying no it's not, but okay, here's my-
Wait for the explanation. Wait, wait, okay? Because it's kind of cool, okay?
Wait, wait for a second, because it's not that they're dead, and it's not that they're boring,
and it's not that they're bad, but what they are is suboptimal.
For every hour that you spend at a BYOC,
what are the, how many minutes of that do you think you are spending actually playing a game
with people who are also there?
Actively engaged. The game time density for experiences
that we are dependent on being in the same room for is really, really low,
and it's just, whether it's faffing about with updates or someone's mic not working
or not being able to find the right discord or someone not having the technical skills
to go and get the totally legit copy of Halo Custom Edition
that's on a server somewhere and get it installed. Like whatever it is,
there's always something. There's always something delaying the game,
and so what I was kind of thinking about is like, okay,
how do we remove barriers? Because there's other barriers too.
Like a lot of us are, you know, adults,
and the prospect of being completely engrossed
in something for an entire weekend is not only not always possible,
but it's not always even appealing. And adding to that, like,
you lost something, right? Yeah. What did you lose? I forget. A power adapter for my monitor.
There you go. Okay. Hauling all of your stuff somewhere,
like the way people set up their stations, their battle stations these days,
tearing the whole thing down, taking it somewhere, setting it all up,
tearing it back down, and carrying it somewhere, not always appealing.
Now, I do think that there's gonna be a place
for like a BYOC if you're the kind of person who like really, really, really, really, really, really
wants to bring your own rig and just like kind of talk about it and hang out.
I think it's possible that a BYOC could carry on forever.
But over time, what I would like to see happen
is that Whale Land goes from, you know, being 90% BYOC and 10% what I'm about to describe
to being more like 90% what I'm about to describe
and 10% BYOC. Because what I realized is that
when you go by like a gaming,
like an iCafe kind of thing in an airport
or on a street or whatever, you'll have like a group of bros that are in there
playing their own thing. A lot of the time, they're not interacting with other people in the space,
and a lot of the time, those spaces are dead. I went to this arcade in Singapore
that was shockingly expensive. Like I'm talking $3.50 a play on like SkiBall.
No, like shockingly expensive. Now, in fairness, it was raining that day,
but this place was packed, packed.
You could barely move. It was wild.
And I'm sitting there going, I have fun at Castle Fun Park. So what does the arcade have that the iCafe doesn't
or that the BYOC doesn't? And everyone in the arcade, they're gaming.
They're gaming or they're in line to game. They're gaming. They're engaged.
And it was low friction. You don't need to bring all your crap to an arcade.
You don't need to configure your graphic settings
for an arcade. You don't need to install the games for an arcade. As limiting as this might sound,
the games are also semi-decided for you. There's a smorgasbord of them.
You can decide amongst the subset, but it's not, oh, the 700 games in my Steam list,
which include a bunch of single-player games that I'm playing in a LAN for some reason.
It also, it's fixed.
Yeah. This is the, you know, the SkiBall machine or whatever.
This is the air hockey table. And we've talked a lot about how we would want to like,
we want to like enforce that when it's time to play this game, everyone's going to play this game,
and we're going to be like, that's what we're doing. But at the end of the day, you can't do that.
Even you were a pain in the butt when we were trying to get everybody separated
into teams in Left 4 Dead, because you're sitting there playing like Slay the Spire
or something with Left 4 Dead minimized in the background
and not paying attention to comms. It's my best run I've ever had. Because, really?
I set a record. Oh, nice. Oh yeah, thanks. It was like actually sick.
Also, don't do that shit, man. We're trying to play Left 4 Dead.
The only thing I did was I didn't select my little icon fast enough.
Anyway, the point is that, well, we couldn't start the game. And that's the problem.
We could. We could. I was not the reason we couldn't start the game. I was not the last player selected.
So the point is that by having their own computers there,
you introduce a lot of distraction. And we talked about like, oh, we could like
block social media on the network. And we could do this, we could do that. But at the end of the day, that's going to dissâ¦
Then you're kind of pleasing no one. Because the people who want the arcadey experience
where everyone just goes to a station and plays a game are going to be disappointed because like,
why aren't we gaming right now? Are you playing World of Warcraft? Like, what are you even doing?
You're not even playing with any of the other people who are here. What are you doing right now?
Right? So those people are going to be disappointed. And the BYOC people who really are more about
what's it called? Co-play, I think. Co-play, child development, hold on.
I think it's called co-play. I don't know what you're talking about. Typically cooperative play, typically emerging isâ¦
No, no, no. It's called something else. But basically, it's a thing whereâ¦
Parallel play? Parallel play, that's the one.
Like boys in it. Yeah, where a bunch of kids are doing something.
And the one kid that doesn't really have the social skills
yet probably to integrate with the group will be playing alongside them,
often doing something completely different. And we'll go home and tell mom, you know,
oh yeah, me and Jenny did this, and me and Sarah did that, and we did that.
But actually, they like never talked to Jenny or Sarah. They were just like, they were there.
So yeah, parallel play, I believe is what it's called.
And so for a lot of BYOC people, that is the appeal.
They're going and they're parallel playing. They feel engaged with what's going on.
But they don't actually want to play video games other than that one game that they like to play.
And they don't actually want to talk to anybody other than that one person they like to talk to.
And that's valid, but that's not what this event
is trying to be.
And you could go back to old WAN shows pre any whale land and hear us talk about
how that wasn't what this event was supposed to be. So this event was never supposed to be that from the start.
That's why we had, like at the test that we just did,
there was sectioned periods of time where people were supposed to be all doing one thing.
And even then the enforcement is clearly impossible.
Yeah, we couldn't really do it. Teams were falling apart left and right.
We try to do a valorant tournament. Oh, that was a disaster round.
We had people leaving by the end. My team made the finals simply by merit of our entire
five person squad being in the match.
Because it was five on three in the semis. Yeah, because two people just like bailed.
And this is with staff and plus ones. When we've got randoms, it will be impossible to wrangle anyone.
So here's a new concept for whale land.
You don't bring anything. You bring yourself and a ticket.
And we make the gaming experiences. So we've got some ideas include like, you know, a pinball corner.
You know, I bought a pinball machine. I put it in the lounge upstairs at smash champs.
I think we've contacted Stern now.
Oh, really? And yeah, I think they might be sending over like something for ShortCircuit.
Stern machines are nice. Oh my gosh, dude. They're really nice.
Dude, dude, dude, love it. Anyway, so, you know, pinball corner.
And just by merit of having a ticket to whale land.
You can go play pinball. You just go in, you just play. Which is what? You'll obviously have to not be a dick and like, you know,
move out of the way if someone else needs a turn. But there's no like popping quarters into it.
It's all you can eat. It's like the playdium model. There was an arcade at a big mall here that unfortunately shut down,
I guess, because it wasn't sustainable. Fortunately, I don't care because these are not about like making a ton of money.
They're about having fun and me wanting to play video games.
But anyway, their model was all you can eat. So you just buy a pass. You go in, you play any game you want.
You just swipe it. And I think it was just for tracking like which games people are playing
because you didn't pay any extra except for some of the like premium games.
Anyway, so like pinball corner, high end racing sim setups.
These are just all these are ideas that are in the dock right now. But you can you could put the truck, the truck.
Absolutely. And that's that's a big part of the sweet is we build
so many cool gaming experiences around here that then we just tear down.
And there are things like that no one would be able to experience.
Like I yeah. Here's a big one. Have you ever wanted to play Star Trek bridge crew?
Yeah. Have you ever played it? No, me neither.
I haven't played like whatever the old phone one is. I think I lied.
I think I actually tried it very briefly once for a video.
But it's a it's a huge challenge. You need four people all with VR headsets.
And it's like when are those stars going to align?
At Whaleland. That's pretty good. We could have a we could have a bridge crew setup.
And so here what else we've got?
Oh my god, Jake. He says a really big RGB fan like three feet.
And maybe we could cool a computer and make a video about his writer's meeting today.
I told him I don't think it's video worthy anyway. The point is we'd have somewhere we'd have somewhere to graveyard those projects
where people could enjoy them. Yeah, that'd be sweet. You know, you could even have like something that's closer to an exhibit like a state of VR
test station. Dude, I would love that. There's a VR game that I love that just the star of the game.
The stars never aligned to play it. It's called Takling's House Party.
Oh, it's so sick. He's played it. Yeah. You have one VR headset player and everyone takes turns being the VR headset player.
You're Hal. You're a home. You're a poor homeowner who's just trying to handle the taklings infestation in your house.
Everyone else sits around the TV with controllers and they're the taklings.
And it's a kind of co-operative sort of dynamic between the taklings because they are all against
Hal. They all agree on that. But they're competing against each other. But they also want to be the most against Hal.
It's really, really fun. It's very fun. And you need like realistically, if you don't have six plus taklings, it's too easy for Hal.
You need chaos. And the more taklings, the more chaos.
And I think that station- It's more fun when it's hard for Hal. Yeah.
That station would be an absolute blast. I'd love state of VR because I mean, most people have tried what?
Like a quest, I'm assuming at this point.
And if you could show people like, you know, big screen beyonds and stuff like that,
it would just be really cool. Yeah. So immersive history of gaming exhibits.
We could have like older games you could play. So a decent amount of the exhibits that we're at,
LTX to be honest. Yep. Gaming trivia corner, gaming jeopardy, human keyboard, people could...
Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't know if we're ever going to end up doing that. Okay. So the writers have dumped a lot of projects.
Read the last one. I wonder who said this. The Red Bull Chug Jug.
Drink from an 1800 gallon jug of Red Bull.
Whoever can drink the most wins the rest of the jug.
No. Yes. We're not doing that because... Call your mom and dad.
What are these ideas? Okay. Call your mom and dad.
Okay.
So my writing team is a bunch of nerds.
Oh, man. Call your mom and dad. Gamer rage room.
Your team kept feeding on match. So your hard carry never came online.
Smash e-waste in a room to help process everything.
Okay. The point is... Call your mom and dad. We could just bring the Tuesday pod.
Just like... Yeah. The point is, the point is that...
And I think we could... There is a lot of room for just still PC gaming.
Like I would absolutely want to have an 8v8.
All the systems facing each other. Red versus blue. Halo station.
Oh, yeah. And we'd be playing Left 4 Dead would be great. I still would love to do Savage at some point.
Oh, dude. Yeah. It's like a 64 versus 64 RTS slash FPS.
One RTS player per team. Everyone else is FPS.
So there's still room for us to have a ton of like traditional PC gaming.
Like I'd love to have like a Worms Armageddon station. Where it's just like...
Like it'd be kind of cool to have it in like a hexagon.
Except the chairs are on the inside. So you're...
Yeah. So you're... So you can like... So you can like lean over me like...
Ah, I got him. You know, like... Because that's what was missing at...
It sounds like one of the worms. A lot of people... A lot of people who attended the tech test were like...
Actually, you know, I had more fun at the land at your house. Yeah, I did.
Because we did a couple lands at my house. And I was trying to figure out why.
Because all the same people were there. All the same computers were there.
So what was the difference? And it was... It was actually the potted off isolation.
Because like I was in the garage I think both times. And the garage ended up playing together.
Yeah. And I was in the theater room a lot of the time. Just playing on the big screen.
Yeah. And then there was a crew that was at my house till like five in the morning.
Playing Jackbox games on the Rec Room TV. And so that was what was missing.
Was giving people space to get immersed.
It's easier to... When you and I were sitting in the back row trying to yell at people to come play whatever game we were playing.
It wasn't that effective. Yeah. When you're in the garage and there's only eight of you.
That's it. It's pretty easy to get people on board. Exactly.
Um, it's very different. Sometimes it's useful.
Sometimes it's used for good. I think there can also be like...
Like one of the ideas I think I came up with. I don't know, maybe you did. I don't remember.
But we could have like a Super Mario Bros. station.
And... No, that was your idea. You could... You could... It just, you know, it's just sitting there on the first level at the beginning of the land.
And the idea is if like by Friday night... Let's say it's a Friday Saturday land.
Yeah. By Friday night at midnight if... All 96 exits.
If it's beat... If they have beat the game. Yeah. Collectively the land.
If the land has beat the game. Then like Linus orders pizza for everyone or something.
And you structure it where like the budget to order pizza was...
That'd be the cheapest pizza. Kind of in the ticket cost. Yeah, we better assume we're doing it.
Expecting to buy it, you know. But you give them a mission. You give them something to chase.
Because that sounds fun. And somebody's going to walk in and see that and be like, this is me.
I will do this. And now they have like a mission and they accomplish it.
And now they like earned pizza for the land. So they feel all stoked about it.
And like you create these like little bits of activation. Now there are challenges.
Obviously it's going to take a long time to execute on something like this.
Like if we are literally rolling into the land with every computer.
And every console and every display. And every, you know, pipe and drape isolator for VR, base stations or whatever.
Right? Like if we're rolling in with absolutely everything that's needed.
It's going to be tough.
It'll take us time to build up to that. We could do this piecemeal. Like we could add things over time.
Little bit, little bit, little bit as we build up to this whole thing.
You know, we don't need 1,800 gallon jug of Red Bull day one.
Yeah. So we're going to scrappy DP asks, where are you storing all this gear?
We got a plan. We got a plan. That's actually a big part of what would enable this pivot is there was an unexpected plan
for storing stuff, which will also help out smash champs in terms of growing their retail shop
presence. So for those of you not sort of up to speed, I bought a badminton center a little while ago
or more accurately, I bought a building and then turned it into a badminton center in Surrey.
And it's actually going great, which is kind of surprising.
I was expecting it to be a money losing endeavor forever.
And the retail store is like killing it.
Yeah. It's going unexpectedly well. I think we're over 200 premium members.
So there is people have asked to be able to buy LTT Store products.
I know. Physically. And there is LTT Store products there.
The logistics are extremely challenging for doing order pickup because it's not like part of.
Oh, I don't mean that. There's stuff on the shelf. Oh, I know. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
There's only a couple of things, guys. It's like the athletic pants and some water bottles and stuff.
It's not really set up. LTT Store has like hundreds of SKUs and the store is not set up for that.
Anyway, the point is the retail store has been doing great.
Not a tall XL's short sleeve. Yeah.
It's a real business all of a sudden, which I wasn't really expecting.
And so they kind of needed some extra space for like overflow inventory so that we can
stock enough because the store itself was only ever supposed to be just like a store front for
like a handful of items just in case people forget it. But people are coming in like all the time.
Like, oh, I don't know. Is this a store? Like can I buy badminton shoes?
And we're like, oh, I guess. Sure. It's like it's kind of crazy.
It is a relatively large and actually pretty nice store.
You ignore the entire rest of it. Like it's blowing my mind, man.
It's it seems pretty clean. It's well lit. I also felt I also felt pretty good when someone who works on like store flow layout
and design came in and was like, oh, this is like a really good layout because
you force everybody to walk through the retail store when they come in
and walk through the retail store and exit the gift shop when they leave.
This is actually like really good. Yvonne and I. When is the key session going to be up?
It's complicated. Oh, is there like licensing or something? So there's a whole there's certifications that you need in order to in order to literally like
microwave a hot pocket. We have to have certifications. We have to have like two sinks that are separated for some purpose and some other purpose.
Basically, we just like put a small kitchen in it and assumed that our like general contractor
would tell us if we hadn't like done it right. And we need a whole bunch more ventilation.
We're going to do it. I think we're going to. So when we pull permit for that, we're probably going to pull permit for adding some more showers
at the back. And I think those will be premium member only showers because right now there's only the
one shower in each bathroom because most of the other badminton centers that I've played at
all the players just like go home and shower. And what people said to me was, well, yeah, if you see in the state of those showers,
wouldn't you do that? And I'm like, yeah, I don't shower there either because they're
I don't want to name any names now that we're kind of competitors.
So I've been in at least one badminton center at one point where I didn't use the shower
because I thought it was not something I would want to use. And he's been in a lot of them.
Yeah. And I've been really genuinely doesn't narrow it down at all.
I've been to like four different ones with him. And that's yeah.
Yeah. The point is that they were like, yeah, we'd use the showers here.
And I was like, oh, that makes sense. So we're probably going to add some more showers.
So when we pull permit for the showers, we'll do the concession at the same time.
But anyway, the point is we have a plan for storage.
So that's what I would like to achieve with whale land.
You should add basic shower things to the store because the amount of times I go to the gym and people forgot their shower stuff
is a lot. That's a good idea. Like little like travel little things of like shampoo or body wash and maybe a luth or whatever.
Sure. I think it's a good idea. I think it's a good idea.
So yeah, if you guys have ideas for what you guys want to see at whale land,
we are super open to them. Please, how do people send this?
You know what? Send what? Like their ideas. Leave a comment on the YouTube uploads.
Does that work? You could make a forum thread. Oh yeah. Oh, we could make it.
Dan, do you have time to make a forum thread or are your fingers on fire still?
Probably not at the moment. But we could send that to a writer or something.
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What? I thought it was me for a second.
Oh, wait. It looks like it's, I'm dead. It does.
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That's fantastic. Man, that side profile shot of ploof.
I legit thought it was me. I actually kind of thought it was too.
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It has not been cleaned since then. Oh, and I'm apparently supposed to play this.
Did the timestamp work? Oh, yeah, here we go. No, I just can't.
This is not my priority to clean this PC.
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Oh, whoa.
Oh, okay. That's pretty cute. That's pretty gross. Oh my god, look at here.
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All right, Dan, what are we supposed to be doing? Span answers.
Why don't we do one topic before we do sponsors?
Okay, sure. Why do you bother asking me?
He likes doing that. NVIDIA says, IDC, you fix it.
After 32-bit FizzX turned out to be the RTX 5000 series's
Kryptonite. Along with other things? Along with, well, along with Black Screams and
Missing Robs and Melting Power Connectors and
Pricing Note to Lunch. False promises. NVIDIA has opted to address the issue by making FizzX
and Flo SDKs completely open source.
It was already mostly open source, but for the GPU simulation.
No, this is still cool. The good news is this should make it possible for modders
to create wrappers for the new cards to play affected games
without insane performance penalties. And maybe even add FizzX support to AMD and Intel cards,
which is pretty cool. It may also allow for game devs to push what FizzX
can do in their games. The bad news is it's going to be on the community
to make any of this happen. Obviously, I would prefer that they would maintain it,
but I will say this is what we've asked people to do
when they abandoned something. And most companies don't do it, and they did do it.
They did do it. They did do the thing, and we're going to have to give it
one thumbs out of five.
Okay. I still think it's cool that they did it. Yeah. A lot of companies would have just peer abandoned it.
No, no, no, no. I only have one thumb. It was a joke. My only thumb out of...
Oh, I thought we have four. Oh, three thumbs out of four.
Nice. Right.
We can include that and have six. Discussion question.
Is this a good guy or lazy bum move?
A good bum? I'm going to... I'm going to... Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I'm going to go on a bit of a limb here and go...
What I suspect might be against a deucement of the audience and say, good guy.
A lot of companies would just abandon this. PhysX has not been a primary thing for games
for quite a while now. It's not going to sell any new games anytime soon.
It's not going to sell any new games. They're still having to maintain it. Genuinely, a huge percentage of companies
would have just dropped it. I was not surprised when they did it.
Should they do the same thing for 3D vision?
Yeah. If they're not going to use it, yeah, they should.
They absolutely should.
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Absolutely sick. All right, what are we doing, Mr. Dan?
Topic. Topic. More topics. One cable to rule them all.
Whatever you want. This is wild. An alliance of over 50 companies in China
has released the specs for a new cable that I found borderline hard to believe.
The general purpose media interface, or GPMI.
There are two different connector options. Type B, a proprietary connector with up to 192 gigabits
and 480 watts. And Type C, compatible with USB Type C,
with up to 96 gigabits and 240 watts. Both Type B and Type C will support 8K video,
but apparently will lack 10 and 16K,
which HDMI 2.1 supports, although who's using it?
From Tom's hardware for comparison, then we have a little table here.
Look at them numbers. Now, HDMI 2.2 is, I don't see it on here.
That actually doubles HDMI 2.1's bandwidth
to 96 gigabit per second. But even HDMI 2.2, I don't think does power.
So GPMI being able to do- The 480 watts of power delivery
is crazy. Yeah, you could power your monitor off your computer.
Like just off your computer power supply. And it's like, why not?
Yeah. I mean, that makes sense, sure. That's so sick. Could we just like have fewer cables?
And the size of the cable, and the, you know, no big chunky adapter in the middle too.
Like the cable management options here is are wild.
Let me see if I can find the picture. I know Riley- Dude, you could power your monitor off your computer
and daisy chain the power probably in some scenarios. Here we go.
I'm keeping up articles and I can't find them. Riley has a-
No, wait, that's not what the connector looks like. Is it, is that just a mock-up?
I think that's just a mock-up. I think that is a mock-up, but I think it's like that.
Yeah, that's just a wide USB-C. Yeah, but they described it as a USB-C
that got like stretched out basically. I've seen that description in multiple places.
So I think it is kind of supposed to look like that.
Everyone else is just using images of like HDMI ports.
And so, oh, here we go, here we go. Okay, GPMI type B.
That sort of works? Sure, there you go. I don't know. Like kind of-
Are we going to get like- There we go. Mini B and micro B. It reminded me a lot.
And- Oh yeah, micro B comes back.
Oh no, I'm going to lose it.
I already saw two letters. It reminded me a lot of old Apple connectors.
The wide-boy ones. Here's my question though. As good as this is, and I am all for higher-band with video interfaces.
Like- Yeah. For real. Yeah. Like with OLED, having the fast-switching time that it does,
man, drive-up them hurts. You know, give me smoother displays.
Like I'm super into it. But the article that I actually read earlier today about HDMI 2.2
basically was like, yeah, the appetite in the CE industry is not super high for more bandwidth.
Given that the adoption of 8K is nothing, essentially.
And realistically, do we need more than 144 hertz?
Or what I think is about 144 is the maximum you can do on an HDMI 2.1 link.
120 on most like AV receivers and stuff. Do most people need more than that given that they're running game consoles
that can't drive more than that anyway? Like is there really a hunger for this that will drive industry adoption?
Really? The USB-C compatible one still pushing 240 watts is cool.
But that's still within USB-4. There's also a couple things kind of overlooked in the Tom's Hardware chart.
Thunderbolt 5, for instance, has an asymmetric mode
where it can operate at greater than 40 gigabit per second in one of the directions.
And the idea there is that you're driving a bunch of displays off of the device,
but you have less data coming back the other way.
So there are a few things that are not 100% accounted for in the Tom's Hardware chart here.
But even then, I guess my question is... That's why it's USB-C compatible.
What's going to drive industry adoption of this? Because the connectors that ultimately win are the ones...
Yeah, but I mean, you can't single-handedly... HDMI is, as far as I can tell, literally never going to change.
Like honestly, like in the consumer electronics industry, IT industry, okay, maybe we could talk about that.
Or like I could see a niche VR vendor or something pushing this or something.
Like I could see... Here's a hot take.
How many people are actually plugging things in with HDMI to their TV these days?
Lots. Really? Yeah.
I kind of doubt it. You think people are just running their smart TVOS and they're just using Netflix that way?
I bet you that's most people. Anyone with a game console has to plug in via HDMI.
A lot of people are going away from non-switch game consoles. Anyone with more devices than...
There will probably also be adapters. Anyone with more devices than are supported is going to be using an AVR.
And those are 1 billion percent using HDMI. I don't think that's that very many people.
Anyone using a soundbar is using HDMI.
HDMI is so entrenched. I mean, think about it.
The soundbar argument might have me. HDMI charges for every port on your device and they still haven't walked away from it.
DisplayPort was technologically superior for... I don't think a lot of people are getting those.
Chromecast built into a lot of stuff. DisplayPort was superior in terms of bandwidth delivery for ages.
HDMI did have some features that were better supported.
I think deep color came first to HDMI. But I've been trying to figure out for years why they keep paying this HDMI license fee.
And I think it's just because when you've got this level of momentum,
you can't get away from this connector. And the fact that they've managed to keep it backward and forward compatible
all these years, the ports, the cables...
I mean, obviously you need a higher quality cable to run the new one.
So it doesn't always work. But the fact that theoretically you could take an OGHDMI device,
plug a brand new cable into it, and you're good to go. You can just buy that at the store.
It's a commodity. The fact that you could take an ancient cable,
and as long as the distance is short enough, you could conceivably run a brand new device linked with it.
Like, it's admirable.
It's a good thing. Like, think about how many cables were thrown away
when we transitioned from composite to component, and then from component to HDMI.
The fact that you can continue to reuse this stuff for so long.
I don't know. HDMI, it's going to be tough to replace.
I mean, yeah. Maybe I've talked to myself out of GPMI.
I wish them luck because I want more bandwidth. Give me more bandwidth.
Give me power delivery. Chinese TV manufacturing is doing a very similar thing
that Chinese vehicle manufacturing is doing.
And they could just sort of force this.
I do actually... The soundbar's argument was interesting.
Some people have brought up that some soundbars can connect over Wi-Fi or Bluetooth.
But the soundbar argument is interesting. I honestly think... At most, over Bluetooth.
Sorry, it's not happening. The audience watching this and you might be skewed
towards more people having devices to put into their TVs
than you think is necessarily average. But then here's my question.
I promise you over the last four or five years, the amount of people plugging things into their TV
with HDMI has decreased. Sure. But then that actually kind of feeds into my argument
for why we shouldn't bother to transition the industry
to this new connector whose only benefit is higher bandwidth, more resolution.
Yeah, that's kind of fair. So it's doubly unnecessary then
if nobody's putting anything into the TV. I definitely don't think it's necessary, but I think it might be China wanting to own
like a cable interface standard.
I mean, that's fair enough, but they need buy-in from the entire world.
All the other devices. Essentially. Yeah. Because if you, all of a sudden,
you're Ankyo or Denon or whatever and your AVR receiver,
I know that's an ATM machine thing, but I'm just going to say that.
So your AVR receiver, it has to have like a different version
with like a modular like IO thing for the China market.
You're just like, oh my God. No. I don't think it's the China market though.
So you think they're just going to try and like push this world? How though?
It might have to be a mix of connectors. I mean, right now we have DisplayPort and HDMI.
Not on an AVR? No, I'm staying on the TV.
Oh, not on a TV?
Almost, other than commercial displays,
I can't think of a single TV that has DisplayPort in.
In fact, I can't even think of a single TV off the top of my head that has like a USB-C
with that supports like DisplayPort alt mode. Like it's just not a thing.
There's a lot that have standard USB, but not for display. HDMI is universal in AV.
I don't think that means it can never be taken over.
Especially when you have TCL coming in swinging like they are.
I think they could use TCL to force this out. And I suspect that might actually be the strategy.
I think that would just literally destroy TCL's sales.
I don't necessarily think so.
They eat the cost of like the dongle breakouts
and they make it like HDMI signal compatible or something,
but they'd have to work with the HDMI forum or consortium or whatever they're called.
Is it a forum? I think it's a forum. They'd have to work with the HDMI forum on that,
unless they like just reverse engineered it.
It just doesn't seem plausible right now,
but I could be wrong. I could be wrong. I mean, I thought DVI was great
and didn't need to go anywhere and that went away.
I liked DVI as well. I liked chunky connectors. We'll see as well, like they announced the standard.
That doesn't mean it's anywhere near ready for market.
So it could be quite a while till we see what happens. G. Koons says you could power peripherals from the TV.
Yeah, you could, but you could already do that because your TV's plugged into the wall
and you're not going to be powering. Actually, yeah, you could power a pretty decent power TV,
but like here's the thing. Why? Because now you have to put like an over spec power supply
inside whatever device that's going to be powering the TV.
Why do you want to do that? You're just taking a cost that could be in the TV
and that would be right sized for the TV
and then you have to like over spec it because you have no idea what kind of TV
someone's going to plug into it into the AV receiver.
Why are we doing this? That I think makes sense for computers. Like you're saying, be able to power your monitor
or whatever would be pretty sweet. Yeah, but like, do you want, do you want to have to buy an AV receiver
that has a 2000 watt power supply just in case it has to power a PlayStation 6
and an Xbox, you know, series, whatever they call it
and your TV like, no. Especially when like the cable management system
of home theater setups is like the most solved one that exists.
Yeah. Yeah. I just don't really see the point.
GK Gikun says the other way. Like it doesn't matter.
Either way, either way, you're putting an oversized power supply in something
and then you're going DC power out to all the other connected.
Why? Just plug them all in. Okay. So I just want to,
because there's a bunch of people that have been saying a very similar thing and I want to try to explain my argument a little bit better.
Zach 3323 said, I got to disagree with Luke. My parents and grandparents use HDMI
because it's what their old TVs have now. There are a ton of dumb TVs people buy Chromecast for.
Wi-Fi connection for things like soundbars is relatively new.
Totally. What I'm talking about is new TVs,
not old TVs. Yeah. These would be new TVs that are being sold.
It, the, I don't think there's a huge argument for a need for this.
I think the argument for this would be that China wants to own a cable connection standard.
They came up with GPMI and they could push it. They could push it through TCL.
That would be new TVs, not old TVs. Yep.
And these TCL TVs, they could include things like Chromecast.
They could include things like that, where it would be.
But they'd have to collaborate with Google for that. So good luck. Or they'll have some form of casting solution
of their own and just not care, which sounds probably more likely.
But I'm, I am not talking about this somehow working for your old TVs that has genuinely nothing to do
with the conversation or the argument whatsoever. And I've seen a bunch of comments about that.
So it's, I could very likely be wrong. I think it's an interesting angle to take,
so I'm just sticking with it. But yeah, that's where I'm at.
No, I mean, I'm saying I could be wrong,
but I'm, I'm, I'm decently confident in that take.
I think it's pretty easy to shift people over to Bluetooth
for soundbars. I think the people with consoles are overestimating
how many of them there are, and the ability to have an adapter,
or they're underestimating the ability to have an adapter. And I really think the techie audience that we have
is underestimating the amount of people that just buy a TV and just use the TV as is.
In what looks like an April Fool's joke, Kawasaki of all companies has unveiled the Corleo,
a rideable robot horse that the Japanese motomaker says
is actually coming sometime after 2050.
Is that a typo? Is that, is that date right?
Anyway, do you want to watch this? Yeah, sure. It's only about a minute long and realistically,
I don't think, I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it yet. Realistically, I don't think Kawasaki is gonna copyright
strike us here, so. They might. They might. I mean, we've seen dumber stuff.
Japanese brand. What? Okay, this is just CG.
Well, yeah. Well, I don't know. I thought they might have a prototype.
No. Not when it's coming in 2050.
Okay, well, I thought it would be. Okay, well, this is just stupid then.
It's, it's so funny how similar that is to the,
the Pokemon Go April Fool's thing. Yeah.
Okay. I still like the. I'm disappointed that it's completely CG.
They don't even have like a proof of concept. I expected it to be like, like slow or something.
You know, like kind of. Whip one of those. But like doing something.
No. Well, this. Some brand went, wouldn't it be cool if we did something 25
years from now? That'd be sick. Yeah.
They say it will be powered by a 150 cc hydrogen engine,
have rubber hooves to handle terrain like grasslands, rocky areas and rubble fields and controls that function
similar to riding an actual horse. I'll believe it when I see it. Okay.
Dire wolves are so not back colossal biosciences.
The genetic engineering company for people who drink monster energy claimed to have achieved the world's first
de extinction in the form of living dire wolf pups
named Romulus Remus, the mythical founders of Rome and Khaleesi.
The news made the cover of time and Game of Thrones creator George R.R. Martin posted a photo of himself holding one of
the pups. There is some actually cool stuff here.
Colossal managed to extract DNA from 72,000 year old dire
wolf fossils, identified dire wolfish traits and edited the
genome of gray wolf embryos to emulate those traits. Of course, that means the pups are not dire wolves,
but they are modified gray wolves that look pretty much exactly like an Arctic wolf.
And our source is arcticwolf.png.
Yep, that's an Arctic wolf, all right. Cool.
The best available evidence also indicates that dire wolves were not actually wolves, and they were more closely
related to coyotes, African wild dogs, and what the heck are
D-holes?
It's definitely not how you pronounce it, but. Doles?
It's got to be. There's no way it's D-hole.
Oh, it bit me.
What a D-hole. You're going to name that.
What's that fish? Like stupid-headed fish, whatever it's called.
Dumb head or something. Let me try to find it. You've got to be kidding me. Um, dumb gulper shark is one of them, but that's not the
one I'm talking about.
Yeah, yeah, that's it. Let me look it up.
Really?
Oh, no.
What a name, dude.
That sucks. Okay, so let's talk about the, let's talk about the but why,
though. Colossal says that their work can restore niches in the
ecosystem that vanished when animals went extinct.
But the part that we appear to be overlooking is that none of that helps when the dire wolves prey, large herbivores like
wild horses, ground sloths, and mastodons are also off the
market. Colossal is doing actual conservation work, helping to
restore less flashy species like red wolves, which are heavily endangered, but that doesn't get one on magazine
covers and it doesn't get one investment. So our discussion question is, noble lies.
Are we for them or against them? Against.
Okay, cool. That was a quick conversation. What's next?
Yeah, uh, the next topic, I think, which I think is the
last one. No, it's not. Nope.
Any, any, my emo. XT, let's do the XT. All right, let's do the XT.
Turns out the XT was inside of all of us all along.
Okay, that was not supposed to be quite so sensual, but do go on. It was.
BIOS modding the 90 70 members of the PC games
hardware forums were successful at flashing a 90 70
with the BIOS of its superior XT sibling, allowing the
lesser GPU to run at much higher clock speeds and much higher voltage.
We're back baby. We used to do this kind of stuff back in the day.
Modders were able to get 15 to 20% higher scores in
3D mark over the stock 90 70 with the unlocked BIOS.
Naturally, this modification has its limitations. For example, it can't make up for the missing GPU
course, and it also prevents the card from idling properly.
And apparently there are some crashes. It says crashes aplenty.
I've read that some users are not running into crashes and other users are personally.
That's what I've read usually makes sense when you're unlocking any kind of anything.
Yeah, because it's going to depend on your card. So the the crashes aplenty here is probably that
that's happening to a lot of users, but there is still a chance that you could get lucky and have a
good card. I don't know if there's a way to detect with
binning or anything at this time. I have no idea. I doubt it.
I doubt it as well. Not to mention that if you do this on a card with a
dual BIOS, you end up getting a brick.
Without dual BIOS. Without right. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, because dual BIOS cards you can just flip back
to your original BIOS and if if you don't have that option, it could be potentially challenging.
Yeah, this is not the first time this has been possible on an AMD card.
It sure isn't. You could do this with the 6950 to 6970.
The Vega 56 to 64 and the 5700 to the 5700 X.
It also used to be possible on NVIDIA cards. There was a what was that card all copper MSI.
I want to say it was a 470. Wasn't there more cards in this? I thought the the 290 or something had something
going on with this as well. There's been there's been more than just those
ones listed. I'm fairly certain. This was a really cool card.
MSI had like like a weird all copper cooler twin
freezer GTX 465, many of which could be they were numbered.
It was a limited edition and video needed to just like get rid of some GPUs back when they were like
kind of cool and cowboy. And so they they were 470s that didn't make the cut,
but some of them had all the functional units and just were like they didn't meet the power profile or whatever.
And so MSI sold them as 465s and a lot of them could be flashed to 470 and they had this super
spanky cooler. That's cool. It looks sick. Yeah. Bring back cards that look like that.
Our discussion question is would you recommend this? My answer is honestly probably no.
If you have a dual BIOS and you want to have some fun. Nothing to lose.
Yeah. Yeah. Go for it. Without it.
Little sketch unless you're willing to just like write the card off basically.
I wouldn't. We need your help on a video.
Source one is for this is the need for more positivity in my life.
We're a little sick of the doom and gloom. We're not saying the doom and gloom isn't warranted.
We're just saying we're sick of it. And we want to make a video highlighting some of your
positive moves or some of the positive moves that
traditionally greedy companies have made in the tech space.
And we need your help to find the best examples. Some examples we came up with include the open sourcing
of the command and conquer games by EA. Windows Defender making antivirus subscriptions
mostly a thing of the past and Microsoft's accessibility initiatives especially their Xbox controller.
Controllers. They have multiple accessibility controllers now. Let us know your favorite positive examples in the chat
or by sending an email. Wow.
Let's go with maybe not that email.
What's a better way to do this. Oh wait Dan can't create form threats right now.
Um you do it. You know what someone on the subreddit make a thread
and add things to that. I can work on getting logged in. Why don't we do that for no someone will do it.
They'll be done by the time you. But there's going to be like a trillion of them.
Um that's not my problem whichever one is the one that wins is the one.
Sorry for a mods. No not the forum they're for subreddit.
Oh yeah I don't know we don't care about them do we.
Well the well they're unofficial. Reddit will kind of sort itself out with upvotes.
Exactly. So it'll probably be okay. Yeah it should be fine. If you post on the one that doesn't win just migrate it over.
Yeah yeah do that. Anywho so yeah we should do that for ideas for gaming experiences at WhaleLand too.
Yeah so if you have things that you'd like want to try like I don't know I think it'd be cool to
have like a crt versus OLED like retro game station.
Someone with the Linus account added you and said I'll make a forum post.
That's not how we do that.
That is not how we do that. That is really not how we do that.
You are not supposed to do that. I'm going to change the password.
Okay anyway.
Our discussion question is can you think of any good guy moves but I think we're just going to save it for the video.
We'll let you guys we'll let you guys kind of dump them in there. Let's go for Reddit karma fight says Fabian.
Elijah signed into your own account for crying out loud or I won't say tomorrow's video he
probably just forgot. Or I won't invite you to play tape to tape alpha.
When is it coming? I don't know. They posted it the reason why I messaged you was they posted an announcement.
I know and I read it as like this is available now.
I know they're being even with like the alpha invitees they're being supremely
cocked easy about it. Yeah. But basically this like sounds so cool hockey
rogue super violent hockey rogue light game that we've been really enjoying over the last
little bit. It has their like their like alpha 2.0 coming very soon.
I've got an invite and it like dramatically expands the campaign.
There's now like branching pass that you can take. I think they've added like fighting and a whole bunch of stuff.
Nodes as far as my understanding goes. And they've they've nerfed a bunch of the stuff that like we acknowledged was broken.
Like the spiked armor spiked armor makes it so that anyone who tries to body check you
gets body checked themselves and you just like shrug it off.
Just kind of dumb. So now it'll be like the dragon show where it will both of you will be hit.
Okay. So there's a sacrificial element to it. If you were going to be hit and now the other guys also hit sounds good.
Then now you're both hit. Sure. So there's sounds more and they're nerfing head redirect and like a bunch of other
stuff. I don't know how they're going to nerf it. I think they just need to remove it from the game.
I will see. We'll see. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.
Because even when it was completely functionally broken, it was still overpowered.
Dan, are you still not caught up?
Good lord. Check the stats.
It's slowing down. You're doing a great job. You're doing a great job, sir.
It's only been two hours. And the reason that he needs to do a great job is because we don't want you guys to get
caught in the upcoming shipstorm. We're doing free shipping on all orders over $150 US dollars right now on LTTstore.com.
Just head to LTTstore.com. Click shop now and you will find, oh my goodness, is that the MCM essential solution for just $79.99
US dollars? You're going to want to get yourself one of those. And hey, to make sure that you reach that $150 free worldwide shipping threshold,
check out the commuter backpack, maybe a precision multi bit screwdriver bit set,
regular screwdriver, a stubby screwdriver that is totally adequately long enough,
a regular backpack, a laptop bag, a tech sack. Oh, we got more magnetic cable management, a scribe driver, bolt action pen,
insulated water bottle, a Northern Lights desk pad available in any size you want,
as long as it's whatever size you want at the same price. Lots of other different mouse pads, desk pads.
We've got the hooded task jacket, our blank t-shirts, green saver party shirt.
Whoa, look how cool these guys are. Love it.
Lots of other apparel that you guys can check out. Oh, yeah, floppy disk notebook.
These are our top sellers, by the way. There are also other things on the store.
You could also buy like home, hold on.
Oh, all products. Where's just all products?
There's an all products, right? Oh, yeah. Dude, there's so much stuff.
Oh, are we out of stock of this again? Oh, that thing is so cool.
We all have a rain cover for the original backpack. We got that. We got a WAN cork board, which you can put stuff and things on.
Oh, the notebook is really nice. Sarah was heavily involved in the design and implementation of that.
Stick logs. Dude, I've been traveling with a controller lately.
Stick logs. Good stuff. Lock your sticks.
Okay, PTM7950 is out of stock, darn it. What else we got?
Oh, good. That sold out. Screwdriver shaft extension. Hey, that's a good way to pad your cart for another 10 bucks if you need to extend your shaft.
I'm just saying. I'm just saying. We have our shape-sorter toy.
If you've got someone who knows who's having a baby or just had a baby and you need a little gift-a-roo,
it's very carefully engineered to make sure that they don't go in the wrong holes.
And it's all tech-themed, which is pretty cool. I think there's one or two that do go in the wrong holes, but they're hard.
They're hard to do. I remember quickly it's one and you have to really line it up. Pajama pants.
What else we got? Oh, look at the... Oh, no, the ABC plush characters are sold out.
Don't forget to... You can load up on gift cards. That's a thing you can do.
ABC's of gaming. Ever popular. Very well reviewed.
All right, cool. I think that's... I think that's it. Manor Star has a lot of stuff on it.
I haven't actually looked at reviews of ABC's of gaming in a while. Look at this.
Look at this. Can anything... Can anything be that universally loved?
Okay, what is this one-star review? Let's see. Let's see.
Still waiting to receive it. Okay, so someone didn't get it.
That's the only thing that you could not love about the ABC's of gaming boardbook.
So if you know anyone who's having a baby and they're a gamer, this is a...
This is a great little... Great little gift item.
The QA team can't catch them all. The silly horse is in a wall.
I will say... That is a silly horse. This is still...
Still. Wow. And we even pointed out that it was like that, and no one even trolled it.
Kind of ruined it. It's a good video. It is a good video. You should go check it out.
All right. Okay, we're done chilling now, Dan.
Okay. Do you have any more topics? For now.
Yeah, for now. For now. Sounds like a threat.
What does merch message ascended mean?
Curated. Oh, okay. Wow, you only curated nine?
Wow, you're ruthless today. Yeah. It's like you want to go home and sleep or something.
He's had to deal with... I don't do that. He's had to deal with air table.
Say that word in public. Shut your mouth.
So he comes here and just like... Something that's not air table.
I don't have to think. Oh, I cry myself to sleep.
I guess you want to switch after dark. Is that why you're antagonizing me about my job skills?
I'm not trying to antagonize you. I'm just asking if you're going to do your job.
Well, what you don't say, Linus.
Look, I got a lot of stuff to sell here.
Have I mentioned, by the way, on LTTstore.com, we're doing the Shipstorm Sale event.
You can get this great hoodie that's probably not going to be able
to be manufactured domestically ever again. Oh, dude.
Impossible. That would be like... Oh my God.
It would be like a $500 plus hoodie. Easy.
Like, easy. And people were already like outraged that we would have the audacity
to sell a $150 hoodie. It's like you do realize the entire thing is embroidered, right?
That is not a print. That is flipping expensive.
Internal, too. Yeah. Yeah, it goes all the way through.
It's not like reversible or anything like that. I don't want to misrepresent it.
It's meant to be viewed from the outside, but yes, it goes all the way through.
Like your skin. Okay. Thank you, Dan.
Let's put him away. Okay. What do you got for us? Too much expulsion.
I've been outside twice this week. It's not good for me.
Linus, you make such a big deal about finding stuff from the office
at the tech makeovers. Is that just for the lulls?
Or are you legitimately calling out your people?
He's livid. Why not both? He's livid.
I definitely... There are definitely cases where people really aren't supposed to have stuff,
and I really do find stuff that they're really not supposed to have, and they really do need to bring it back.
But in general, I don't think that I am a particularly draconian
Nazi-like company owner. And if the occasional cable that...
Especially because a lot of the time it's with people who kind of need to have stuff
at their house to do stuff off hours or whatever else.
Like if... Or that they brought home for a work from home station,
they just kind of forgot about it. I'm not the kind of person that's going to be like,
that's a citation. We can have a friendly conversation about how,
oh, actually we updated that policy, and you actually aren't really allowed to do that anymore,
and that's fine. And in the case of, I think Bridget actually probably broke the record for the most things.
I mean, that makes sense though. I mean, because she seems like such a thefty person or...
No, that's her job. Because she's the head of fashion, and so as part of her job,
she actually brings home for feedback, and we're testing any long-term evaluation,
a lot of CW product. Which you want her to do. And I even told her this.
I don't think it made it to on camera, but honestly, I would have been more disappointed in her if she and her husband
didn't wear our merchandise. Like, I don't think you should force all the executives at Ford to drive Fords.
Ideally, you should be proud of what you made. But you'd be pretty damn excited if they chose to drive Fords.
Was that a specific reference? Because the CEO doesn't drive a Ford? I don't know.
No, he doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. He drives some Chinese maker.
I don't remember which one. Yeah. So that's the thing, is if our products should be good enough,
that our everyone from our CEO to literally the person who just started their first day
should be proud and comfortable to wear them.
And anything other than that is not good enough. So yeah, no, I told her.
I would have been much more upset if she hadn't taken anything.
She has one of the Luxe backpack prototypes in a different color.
And she was like, I can justify this. I can justify this.
You took one. Yvonne took one. And I took one for long-term testing.
I'm not done testing it.
She's a hoot, Brigitte. Long-form Apple leather tester, whatever.
Nice. All right. What else you got for me, Dan?
Why can't the free shipping be rounded or just let me round up?
Everything is X99, so I ended up four cents short.
So I dropped one order, then picked another, and then I was 10-0 for short.
Whatever. Covers. I'll explain it.
Capitalism. I'll explain it. Current year.
Because I really need to not lose money egregiously on every transaction.
God, you really are a bad person. I know. I know.
I know. I have to pay people like Brigitte. I have to pay.
We can blame Brigitte because she's stealing all of your stuff. She's just eating into your bottom line.
It's true. Yeah. Do you have any idea how much a sample costs compared to the mass production?
Oh, my God. Dude, not a joke. Because so much of my wardrobe is early samples,
like the cargo pants I'm wearing right now. Check this out.
Hold on.
Here. Yeah. Okay, watch this. One bottle is in the way.
Okay, so we got balls. LTTstore.com.
Okay, so I got my phone in here. Okay, so normally, right, I should be able to pull my phone out like this, right?
Okay, but watch this. Watch this.
See my phone? Yeah. This one doesn't have the pocket bag sewn properly.
That's the kind of stuff that we... I sometimes like travel. That's the kind of stuff that we catch on pre-production stuff.
And because I wear test it myself, IA have the pleasure of making sure it doesn't make it to
the finished product for you. And B, have the displeasure of because I don't like wasting and throwing things away,
continuing to have to deal with forever. Part of the whole joke is the biggest dealer of company property is Linus.
Oh, it's not even close. Yeah, yeah. It's not even close. That's part of the whole thing is that it's, yeah.
I think I've caught a few moments when watching those, when I see an actual amount of like,
what the heck, but usually you're just playing around. It happens.
That's why I said it's a little bit of both. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, so these cargo pants, it's so funny because I dress like just...
It's not theft if you owns the company. Actually it is. It actually is.
Oh, yeah. I dress like a just rando gamer bro for the most part.
I wear t-shirts, hoodies. You know, like, this is me.
This is me. This is how I dress regardless of whether I worked here.
But in terms of how much my wardrobe actually cost...
Oh, absurd. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I could be buying all the designer labels because most of my stuff is like one-offs, essentially.
You're wearing a $10,000 pair of pants. They're not even like sewn properly.
Not that much. Not that much, but hundreds of dollars.
But a lot, a lot. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you have the pants and the socks and I don't know, maybe some footwear someday or something...
This is why you walk into Tiffany and clothes you made yourself, right?
All of my clothes are bespoke, you know?
Oh, right? Yeah. Man's a baller.
It's hilarious though because I literally can be standing next to someone who's wearing the
exact same clothing as me, but mine cost five to ten times as much.
And might be worse. Which if you think about it, which if you think about it is kind of the whole thing, right?
Like people will buy that stupid plain white t-shirt for $300 or whatever just so that they
can know they did. So I'm like the stealthiest high-end clothing wearer of all time.
You're a fashion, bro. Apparently, apparently. A street wear icon, one would say.
I have no one would say that. A very good way, that's a life hack if you want custom clothes, just samples.
Oh, God. Just commit a little fraud. Yeah, I don't even know if it counts as fraud.
I don't think so. It's just using the system. Yeah, no, you could tell a factory that you have an intent.
They won't really do a ton of real work for you if you don't prove that you are actually
capable of ordering mass production stuff, but they might make you one of something you never
know. You could repeat the grift at multiple factories.
I'm not saying to do that. I don't advocate for wasting people's time, but conceivably, yeah, you could get something
made one off. You could also just get stuff made one off overseas pretty easily as long as you don't
live in the US and it's going to get tariffed. Like Yvonne had her wedding dress made one off.
Yeah, that's cool. She ended up having to get a second one because the first one was a disaster.
But then that second one. Is the second one one off? She ended up selling for so much more than what she paid that it covered the cost of
both the first one and the second one and both were one off. Were they from the same place?
No, I don't think so. That makes sense. Yeah. So it took her two attempts to get a wedding dress that she could actually wear.
That's cool. It was beautiful though. It was pretty sweet. Yeah, this is a little known fact, but you can actually find our wedding video on YouTube.
Yeah. We uploaded it. Not really sure how long I will leave it up.
Oh, dude. Right?
I've seen this, but it's been a long time.
I really hope it starts at the Windows Movie Maker. Oh, dude.
This is some Windows Movie Maker stuff. Ironic.
It wasn't Sony Vegas. Was it ironic? No, it is Windows Movie Maker because that's what Yvonne would have to use.
I don't think it was ironic. And she was the one who made it.
So she used whatever software she knew how to use. This is, I mean, that is so much better.
This is 2011, like a lot of YouTube videos were like this.
Oh, yeah, buddy. Oh, good, the music's off because it is definitely some copyrighted music.
Oh my goodness. Does he look old enough to get married?
No, to be honest. I don't really think so. I don't really think so.
Pretty, pretty magic day. Pretty magic day, buddies.
Let's go. Anyway, so that's up there.
If you're a weird creep and you want to watch it.
Is it like, how much does it bother you knowing that someone has that backed up on a server
somewhere, like an individual, not Google? Yeah, yeah, it doesn't really matter.
I mean, it's, there's nothing, I like, I talk about this a lot when we,
when we discuss like privacy topics where it's like, yeah, it's not too late for you.
You're compromised already. You can keep your, you can keep your personal information safe still.
I am, dude, I'm done. I've had that conversation with people too because I'm cooked.
I talk about caring about privacy and stuff a lot. And then people are like, but you're so public.
And I'm like, yeah, because I already lost. Yeah, that doesn't mean the war is over for everyone.
I used to, I used to bother to change my phone number when it leaked.
Yeah. I haven't bothered in years. Probably wasn't smart to say, but yeah.
Well, it doesn't matter because I don't, I don't take calls. Yeah.
I literally just don't answer calls. So it doesn't matter. Yeah.
And also I just switched to a pixel, which has that cool call screening feature.
So I especially don't take calls. Like, I love that feature.
Yeah. I will never go to another phone that doesn't have it.
Don't be easy. Don't be a f***ing idiot and think you're going to call me and I'm going to talk to you.
That's not how that works. You are literally spamming me and bothering me.
That's not how you start a, that's not how you kick off a relationship.
Well, if they don't make it through the call screen, you just block the number.
Yeah. Oh, exactly. Obvious. And so it's one of those things where, to me, I just had a,
I just had a reality check where I was like, oh, okay.
Well, yeah, this doesn't really matter.
Whatever. Like there was a YouTuber who was working on a like, like getting celebrity contact info video
a while back. I wonder if that video ever came out. I don't know. Anyway.
Sure. It was incredibly easy to get yours. They were like, oh yeah.
Well, they saw me in person. They were like, hey, can I get your phone number? I was like, I mean, sure, it's nothing special.
You could get it like easy. And they're like, what do you mean? I'm like, oh, well, you could just go and like rocket reach and like look it up.
I think their subscription's like $5 or something like that. He's like, whoa, why are you telling people that?
I'm like, dude, it's not a secret. You literally just Google like freaking Bill Gates phone number.
And you can like look it up like space gamer said, wait, what can my pixel do?
The best feature that pixel has and some other phones have this as far as my
understanding goes, but the best feature that pixel has in my opinion is call screening.
And when someone calls you, there will be a little button there that says screen call.
And if you press it, it will answer the call, but it's a Google voice.
And the Google voice says, oh, the person that you are calling to reach has a call
screening feature. State your name and your business and say who you are and what you want.
And then it will output their answer through transcribed text.
So you can read it without answering the call. And then if you don't like it, you just click hang up and then you have never
actually answered the call and then you just block them. Or what happens most of the time is it's like a call center or something like that.
They hit the call screening and they hang up. Yep. You just never have to deal with it.
Asks, is Linus a celebrity? I told him no.
I was like, I don't think I count. So maybe that's why you guys never saw that video.
All right.
I mean, the spam calling is insane. I get spam calls all the time.
And I don't even matter if you've leaked your number.
It matters because so many numbers are recycled now. Yes. So it matters whatever happened to whoever had your number before, realistically.
Like there's one person who has one of my old numbers who apparently gets really mad
at people if they call them. If he's a tech guy, then he should have updated his contact list properly.
They apparently chewed out someone that called them. I was like, I don't know.
Nice. That's definitely necessary. Yeah, that's definitely constructive.
Yeah, for sure. Sure. Good job.
All right, Dan. Linus, you're into Japanese style RPGs, a true man of culture.
What do you feel are the primary hurdles for the genre to overcome becoming mainstream?
Are these hurdles for gamers or developers? I mean, with how I, man, I would make the argument that A, they are mainstream
and B, they are as mainstream as anything will ever be ever again in gaming.
Gaming has become this fragmented collection of sub-sub-sub-sub genres
to the point where you could play, you could play, you could spend all of your off work,
off sleep time for an entire year just playing video games.
And if you played them through to completion every time, you could probably not touch 10% of the sub-genres out there.
So with that in mind, I don't think it needs to hit mainstream.
There's something for everyone. And I think it's about as mainstream as anything will ever be again.
If that, if you kind of, if that kind of makes sense, like I don't think anything's mainstream.
I don't think we're ever going to have like, what would I, yeah.
Minecraft robots. Those are kids specific though. Like can we get something that's not kids specific?
Okay. Minecraft is not kids. Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right. In terms of the cultural impact though, I wanted to go back farther.
Fortnite was everyone, dude. Hold on, hold on. Can I go back farther? I wanted to go back farther.
I don't think we're going to have like a, like a Tetris.
Where literally an entire generation of gamers has absolutely played that game.
Well, maybe it's because they bundled it with the Game Boy Nintendo.
Weird how there's a pattern of this being successful.
It's really frustrating.
And I'm sure I'm a hundred percent sure people have seen this with me,
you, this company as a whole, whatever. It's really frustrating when you see another group,
another person, another company, whatever, fumble something
that would seem so obvious from the outside.
Hold on. Ninja man away says, excuse the f**k out of you.
Minecraft is not kids specific. Sorry. I misphrased that. What I meant was that it was generationally not far enough back that literally like everyone
in that entire cohort played it. There were lots of people that would have considered themselves,
you know, not going to play Minecraft and just would have never touched it.
I never got into it until my kids got me into it.
And I didn't even really get into it, but like, I could like know how to do it.
I don't think you can do Tetris again because there are too many games.
That's, that is exactly the point I was trying to make. And Minecraft wouldn't have made that point for me.
Fortnite wouldn't have made that point for me. It's the same thing with music in my opinion.
I don't think you can be the Beatles again. Yeah, I don't think that could happen.
Yeah, I don't, I don't think so either. I don't think anyone can have the cultural impact of Elvis Presley again.
Yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah.
Since NVIDIA no longer supports game stream on the shield,
is there a good alternative to stream from a PC to a TV in another room
without running additional cables besides existing network cable? Moonlight, Steamlink.
Steamlink. A lot of TVs will have apps for, well, no, the TV will have an app.
Oh, what if you don't have a TV?
Wasn't the question to do with TVs? What if there's a dumb TV or you have a projector?
A laptop? Well, you could still run, you could still run Steamlink on the shield.
That, okay.
It's a solvable problem. This is mainly for Luke, but have you guys heard about the 4K77, 4K80 and 4K83 projects
where they restored the original Star Wars theatrical releases?
Pre-special editions. They are a great watch.
Oh, why was this mainly for me? Well, yeah, I'm down.
I love it. I'm excited. Dude, we have owed the people, Luke, we still haven't done our Star Wars stream.
What was it again? We promised to do it like 10 years ago.
We were going to just like watch Star Wars and dunk on it. The prequels, right?
Or was it all of it? I think, I don't remember.
I think it was all of it. I think we were supposed to watch all nine movies with commentary.
How do we do it? Oh, sorry. Sunshine is apparently a good alternative to Moonlight.
Yeah, I heard about that.
Dude, doing it with this. No, because the whole point of it was that we were going to dunk on it
and talk about all the stuff that's stupid about it.
Yeah, but I don't think this changes the plot or anything. It's just like a...
It's not a fan edit. It's the real deal start to finish, warps and all.
Not as pristine as despecialized, but totally authentic.
Oh, interesting.
Where do you get it? Is it like... But it's like the original cut.
So like Han shoots Greedo and stuff, right? I'm assuming. I would hope so.
I think that's the point is it's like the original cut, but really nice.
I could be wrong. That's what I got from it so far though.
So sorry, where do you get them? Is this just like a torrent thing or is it like...
I have no idea. Yeah, I don't know.
The Reddit thread doesn't actually say anything about... There's a sample of the opening scene.
Yeah, we're not going to be watching that on stream. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you can find it. Originaltrilogy.com.
Something, something, something. Should Disney do the right thing and release a 4K version?
I thought that was part of their deal with Lucas though, that they couldn't do it.
Like they would only ever release the garbage versions and then they would...
I guess part of the deal was also to make the new stuff more garbage than before.
I will do my best to keep the page up to date. Here's a forum thing. Yeah, I don't know, man.
I have no idea like where to get this stuff.
All right. Well, anyway. So is watching the no-DNR version of 4K77 just like watching the film and theaters in 1977?
Not 100% no, but pretty close is their answer.
That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. Yeah, I mean, I'm down.
I'm down. I'm down. What do we do? Do we just put like a timestamp on screen and then they can't see or hear the movie?
Yeah, I think you'd have to like... And we'd have to just talk over it and not pause it.
So they watch along, yeah. So you would just let... It would be like a watch along. Yeah.
That's very like Mystery Science Theater 3000, but except you don't actually see the movie.
So you have to, yeah. Yeah, that'd be sweet. We could even just like have like a...
We could even have just like a... And how would we do this?
So we could make it so that it's like kind of intended for you to watch on PC and we like
leave a little spot in the corner in our framing where you can kind of like put the movie.
Or maybe to put us or something. I don't know. I think us. Yeah, yeah. So I don't think there's going to be a lot of us to like see.
Yeah, maybe we won't have to do anything like that. Yeah, watch party. Let's go.
Okay. Hi, Wanshell.
Maybe a weird question, but why does my package...
Oh boy. Go to the U.S. first and then to Germany where it gets transferred to another company to reach
thousands of America. What a great question. So it goes to the U.S. first because we use a shipping consolidator called WISMO.
Because if we actually ship using Canadian couriers from a Canadian address literally
anywhere, it costs way more for, in many cases, not even a better experience.
Shipping from Canada sucks bananas.
Oh yeah, it's totally. As for why it goes to Germany and then gets transferred to another company to reach South
America. That's why. South America. That is because there's major hubs where they consolidate shipments and the math behind
it is far more complicated than I will ever understand, but that's the most efficient way
to do it apparently. It's stupid. Yeah. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
It seems awfully ridiculous, but that is not uncommon.
It also does make sense. Joshcraft3d asks, will tariffs affect WISMO?
Of course. And someone asks, does that mean everyone will get American tariffs?
No, we won't be able to ship through the U.S. anymore. So we have a lot of stuff to figure out on our side.
Or hear me out, hear me out. If you don't want to get caught in the shipstorm, we are doing an incredible promo on LTT Store
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All right, Dan, hit me. Sure. Now that you've seen someone do the land gaming house better than you,
do you think you can revisit it for a budget, even if it's steam remote streaming to tablets?
I don't know, maybe a contest.
And part of what makes,
part of what makes his house work so well
is that it wasn't done on a budget. And I think if you were to do it on a budget, like you could do it, but by the time you're
spending that kind of money, you would have been better off doing it a different way. Like if I was going to put tablets on a bunch of stations, like what, sorry, why?
Right? Because I'm spending hundreds of dollars now for what? A tiny screen.
Well, why don't I just get, well, I could get a Raspberry Pi, I guess, then I could get a big
screen. Also where would you get it? Yeah, like realistically, if you have the budget to do like a, you know,
how many stations were in the basement? Was it six and six or eight and eight?
I can't, I can't remember. I think it was 12. I think it was 12 in the basement and the DDR things.
Like if you have that kind of space, guys, let's be real.
The money for like a computer and a monitor, you got it.
Yeah. Right? So, well, here, that's true.
There's places where space is not that expensive. Like where?
Like space that is a house. Yeah. With like, you know, presumably nicely run wiring.
Like by the time you bring in a contract or run a bunch of, like, I mean, sure, we could do
like the dirt version of it where you just like put Ethernet cables everywhere.
But I don't, I don't know if there's a ton of value in it because at the end of the day,
you still need a bunch of people are saying Texas. What I will say, you need GPU horsepower to run it.
And GPUs are going to be the single most expensive component of the whole thing.
Alabama, Georgia. There's a lot of places in the States where you can get a relatively large house for not
that much money. Okay. That's fair. That's fair. There's also a lot of places outside of North America where it's possible.
I mean, Japan. Oh, well, technicalities.
Yeah. If you want to go to rural Japan, sure.
I mean, you can get pretty darn close to big cities.
You can get closer to we are than to Vancouver. Assuming they want you there.
That might, that might be a part of the hurdles.
Yeah. That's why I did the technicality hands.
I mean, you know what? It is kind of a cool idea to do like the janky version of it, but
take a router to your hardwood.
Oof. All right. I think Dennis already did that.
Luke.
What a dick.
I'm just going to let you two sit with that. No.
I won't. I buy TVs with composites still for old consoles, but the resolution and technical
issues make it flaky. Any recommendation for upscaling early 2000 consoles or should I just emulate it if I own games?
All right. Well, there's two answers. Number one is absolutely there are recommendations for upscaling early 2000s consoles.
What you want is a one of these.
Oh my God.
The reason it's so expensive is because it uses an FPGA.
So these are extremely expensive processors and also work costs money, but this is a great
way to take retro consoles and with no perceptible latency, upscale them as beautifully as possible
to a modern TV with an HDMI input.
As for your other question, should you just emulate? That depends.
If you are a purist and you want it to look as close to the original experience as possible,
then no, you shouldn't emulate, but I would emulate.
There's also another very expensive option, which is analog.
Oh yeah. You could just buy consoles that run those old cartridges, but have an HDMI output.
Yeah, they have an N64 now. Is it out?
No. It's out of stock, but at least it's shipping in July.
Okay. That's not out then. The sales went live though. Oh, they did. That's what I'm saying.
Yeah. The greatest multiplayer system of all time.
Interesting. I think there's arguments that could be made for that.
Really? I think so. You would argue that over- It depends on how much you value-
Twisted Metal, like Tekken, like, I don't know, man, PlayStation.
The greatest multiplayer system of all time.
The PlayStation probably wins. But yeah, 007 Mario Kart Smash Bros.
007 is un-playable if you've touched a modern control scheme and you try to go back to it.
Yeah, but we're talking, you have to look at it in the time that it was released.
No. If you make a statement like greatest of all time, you can't be like, yeah.
No, you definitely still have to look at it. Yeah, you kind of can. I mean, you absolutely have to or else it would like always be the most modern thing.
That's yeah, that's ridiculous. Dude, I don't know, man. Like, that's a bold claim.
That's a bold claim. Mario Party and 64 Mario Party was insane.
Sure. I can't even think of a Mario Party that released afterwards that I liked
and Mario Party 64 was amazing. They just make them worse. Yeah, they're all awful.
They're just very kidding. No rock bands, no guitar hero.
Like, I'm just greatest of all time.
That's tough. You've named like three games. What was the first console to have four controller ports?
I think the SNES supported multi-tap.
There was like three games. That's with the crazy adapter and there was like no games.
But PS1 had a multi-tap that like actually had games that supported it.
Did people buy it? Did it really like exist? I think so, yeah.
Because I think making it physically part of the console counts for more, in my opinion.
Let's have an adapter. I'm not. Yeah, I don't mean the adapters though. I really don't think the adapters count.
They're like really hard to find now because basically none of them existed.
I don't know, man. Like, and it apparently worked for, oh, I don't know if it was a different version.
This is just Wikipedia. Multi-tap is a peripheral for the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 that can be used to plug
it up to four controllers and memory cards at the same time in a single controller port.
With a second multi-tap up to eight controllers and memory cards could be plugged in at once.
These were really rare though. I don't think it counts. I don't think they were rare. I think they were.
I mean, my friend had one, like, I don't know. We played Poi Poi.
We could play Poi Poi with up to here.
Check this out. This game's actually like legit.
It's kind of like, did you ever remember that? And 64 was first out of the box.
And someone in full paint shot said that. I think that is true. I'm not ever so certain.
And I think that's why they're giving it this title is it's the first one with four
out of the box. And I think that's a pretty big deal. But like PS1 supported eight.
So I guess people didn't have the multi-tap.
Check this out. Remember that game bomb squad that we played on Android?
This is like bomb squad, but like where every every item is like six polygons.
So yeah, you could pick each other up and throw each other. There's there's bombs.
There's you can like pick up logs and hook them at each other.
It's pretty fun actually. Looks more entertaining than most phone games.
Yep. Got them. Poi Poi, let's go. 10 seconds.
I found one on shopgoodwill.com for a multi-tap. People are really maybe I'm just doing a terrible job of explaining my stances today,
but people really don't get it. I'm not talking about now. How's it feel to be me?
It's like deeply not the point like at all.
What I'm talking about is he had a friend that had it when he was growing up.
I had no one that I knew that had a PlayStation had one.
I bet you most people that owned PlayStation back then didn't even know they existed.
That's my point. Anyways, it's fine.
It's fine. I didn't say I don't know. I know.
I knew I'm doing it for you.
I'm feeding on his salt today. So I thought a techie in Floatplane chat said I didn't know they existed.
Like, come on. Come on.
All right. See that's Dan. Hello Linus little development moving to a new place and I'm treating myself to this
MCM bundle. Nice. Which you can get for half off on altidstore.com and save the shipping if you buy
over $150. Let's go. Question for Luke.
I tend to have my hobbies tied around my line of work CS plus AI.
Do you face this issue? Yes. Yeah.
I don't mind it that much. I was told my whole life growing up that don't do what you love because you're
blah, blah, blah. You won't be able to enjoy it anymore. And no.
I mean, I think you did find that to a degree with game streaming.
You got pretty demotivated about game streaming after a while.
It didn't make you not enjoy gaming though. It didn't at all. And I mostly got demotivated because the environment that I was in was not conducive
to it. So I was weighing on other people. Got it. Like if I game stream right now, I am annoying someone.
You'll be annoying me because you're supposed to be working on Wanshow.
No, I'm going to, I'm going to open up a browser game.
No, uh, Ruinscape. Yeah. So it's, it's like, I would, there have been many times where I would like, I would like
to stream what I'm playing right now. And it's just like, yeah, it's just going to annoy someone.
I don't want to bother, but I do want to return to it. Eventually it probably won't be anytime soon.
So don't get excited, but maybe I should just get set up so that I could stream in the basement because I almost never game upstairs anymore because like my kids are
usually down in the basement and stuff. I just get a webcam because like I have my nice streaming setup and it's like great
for calls and like I have that road mic that's like this long. You've seen my desk, um, but honestly, it's not the most comfortable for gaming.
And if I have anyone in person with me, it's not that great.
You know what I really need to do is I need to set it up so that I can like multiplayer game in my theater.
There's no reason not to. Can't you? Well, yeah, no, I totally get, well, I don't have a headset in there and like, I
don't, like it's not, I don't have a computer in there right now. Dude playing Anno on the, didn't we talk about that?
I think we've talked about this before. I have never played Anno on it. Playing Anno on there would be so sick.
I can actually be so sick. Like when we're doing our tape to tape runs, why am I sitting at my desk?
Honestly, yeah, I don't know. That's crazy. Yeah, kind of. Like what am I doing?
Yeah. So, um. See, I would prefer that he solves that before he tries to like, I think Linus's
land house is fine. The fact that someone else has a cooler one. Oh yeah.
No, I wasn't. Is whatever. I wasn't upset in any way. I don't, if I want to do like a 20 plus per hour, I don't, I don't want to do
a 20 plus person land. We'll do the smash champs. Like that. I got a plan for that.
We have options. But those types of things I think would be cool to solve.
Making, streaming less of a chore is a good idea. And then yeah, being able to play tape to tape or Anno or whatever from the
theater room. I finally have a computer in there. I just, I, okay.
What I wanted to do was I wanted to do something that was like almost entirely
passive because I have that perforated drawer thing and then I have fans at the
top and I wanted to, I wanted to do like a whole thing where it was like convection cooled or something.
And I just, it's not, it hasn't been a priority on the video side and I haven't
gotten around to it personally. So I just haven't had a computer in there the whole time.
And the idea was that I would share my computer across it, but then with the
multiple monitors plugged in and which one is your primary monitor and your
secondary and your tertiary and not in Windows, not being able to change those
assignments and like the whole thing. It's been kind of a pain in the butt.
And Windows KVM was theoretically a perfect solution for it. But then I was having trouble with the USB extensions and blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The long story short is I just need to put a stupid computer in there.
And Falcon Northwest, we have a review coming of their Tiki.
Oh, you're putting that in there? No. Oh. They sent over their Tiki and what they wanted to send us was not actually the Tiki,
but I said I want the Tiki because I think it's a really good match for the 5090,
which is what they have in it, because it actually blows right through.
Oh, it's sick. Which is pretty cool because it doesn't share any of that heat with the other
components like we observed in our review of the RTX 5090 where it like
heats up your CPU and RAM and stuff.
But they were like, okay, we'll send you the Tiki because that's what you guys want.
And realistically, if we can be the first system review on LTT in like two years,
then I guess, because it's a super cool system. So Jake's working on the review of that.
But what we really wanted to send was the frag box. So we'll send you one, but can you just try it?
And I was like, okay. So I don't know when they need it back or whatever, but for now it's in my house.
And speaking of stealing things from work. I had an idea.
And I put it in the theater room.
And our next tape to tape run. I'm going to be, you can come over.
You can sit in the theater room with me, but I'm going to be in the theater room. Sweet.
Sweet. There's no way around it. I had an idea. You might like it.
It's very Linus beneficial. It doesn't do literally anything for me, but I think you'll like it.
I think it's a decent idea. Yes. You know that I'm going to be kind of vague, but I think you'll get it.
You know that thing that we're specking?
You called me about it. You're like, I don't know about these specs.
They're a little much.
It's the last time you called me. Is it like a gaming plane? No, that's funny though, but we talked about it in text.
No, I'm trying to try to figure the phone call.
I'm trying to be vague in the other building. Gaming jet. No.
Again, we talked about that in text. Okay.
You call me about it this week. Like. Okay. A jet for gaming.
I mean, I can just say it. I don't know if I need to. I don't know.
I have no idea what you're talking about. So we're thinking about making a home theater set.
Oh God, don't talk about that. I'm kidding. Yes, we are working on one of the like original lab things that we were supposed to have,
which is a light controlled environment that we could also use for not only just testing displays,
like in general, because it's light controlled, but also we could use for like setting up big
TVs and projectors so that we're not always using my theater room at home for testing stuff.
This has noticeable negatives. I just want to be very clear, but there is one really major positive.
So I'm throwing it out there. All right. What if we just recreated your home theater room so that okay,
anything that you liked in there, you would know exactly what it was like.
We could have that cubby. If something fit in there and you liked it, you could just take it home.
No, that's a terrible idea. The TV would mount perfectly. Everything would be exact.
You could you could cheat in certain ways. Like I think this was James Strybe's idea,
but you could make the wall behind the TV a fake wall and just have a mount there
so we could have more space back there and stuff. But other than that, things would sound mostly correct.
That's hilarious. Things would look mostly correct. Things would fit mostly correct.
Chat likes this. Oh, come on, you guys. Alfred's going to kill me because they don't have as much filming areas on the size which they wanted.
Uh, sorry. I'll think about it.
I'll think about it. Maybe you could just make it similar. It would be better if it was bigger, honestly.
I wanted to make my theater room bigger because the seating is a little bit cramped.
Like when we really like have it packed with people,
I wish it was probably about one seat wider.
Like I'm not saying, oh, yes, my personal theater room is not big enough.
Like I'm not, but I would have preferred. There is a, there is a mild amount of lack of prime seats.
Yes. Yeah. And, and, and so if you're all like huddled around like playing an eight-player game together,
it's, it's not. There's a few people that don't have great seats. Yeah. And, and I, what I, what I would have wanted is to have a larger screen and like a 21 by nine
modular display in the long term. I would have loved to use like modular panels to have a 21 by nine display.
That would have been my ideal. I want to temper people's expectations.
Mossin said, nope, do it right. We're not going to do it like right, right.
It'll be like, right, right is actually kind of crazy.
Yeah. It involves like, like a room within a room and like suspended floor and.
You're spending incredible amounts of money. I don't know how forever our current facilities are.
They're really not ideal. The team doesn't love being separated between the two buildings down the street and stuff like that.
Yeah.
We haven't found an alternative. Like we kind of four, we found a really nice building a while back,
but when we surveyed the team, the attrition was unacceptable.
We would have lost, not only a huge portion of our team,
but we would have lost key members that I think you guys would have been very disappointed in us
for not doing everything we could to retain.
And so asking for all these stars to align something that is large enough to accommodate us
affordable enough that we can trade our current holdings for it,
because I don't realistically want to put a ton more money into Lower Mainland real estate.
And also is in approximately the same location.
So we aren't over people who literally picked up their lives
and moved them and put down routes to be near Linus Media Group and affiliated companies.
Like it just hasn't happened. And it's going to be tough to happen, but.
But if something were to come up, we would like to take that. I don't want to spend a quarter million dollars on this room
that we are literally going to bulldoze because looking at the way it has to be constructed,
it's not modular. It can't be like taken apart and reused.
I want to be in a position where it's like, okay, everyone grab your go bag. Let's go.
Which obviously wouldn't be quite like, but no, I don't know.
I don't know. Oh, oh yeah.
Dance there. Doesn't know knows a guy and narcissist.
I've noticed that the MCM goes on promo a lot.
Does that mean it's not moving as fast as you'd hoped?
I would hate to see it discontinued if it's a slow mover. MCM's great.
It's just something that people love. And we do promos sometimes on things that people love.
And we promo the screwdriver. We sell anywhere from like 50 to 150 screwdrivers a day.
So it's a great business for us. And MCM is also a great business for us.
We have new products coming. It's also, it's a line of products, right?
So if you, if you buy in and you make your desk super nice,
you might be inspired in the future to make your home theater room super nice or something like that.
You know, inside baseball talk, you're going to buy this. You could get a good deal on this.
Now you're in the ecosystem, right? So if you want one more, you know, power brick adapter,
you want a couple more of the, the little keyhole adapters for power strips and stuff like that.
Well, you're going to come back and pay full pop for them, unless you can be super patient and, and, you know, wait for a promo again.
One of those things where we got, you got to get people to actually like try it.
Yeah. We want you to try it because when you try it, you're going to love it. Yeah.
And then we got you. Yeah. Because it's a really great product. And the only way for someone to try to undercut it would be to just make no margin on it,
because what makes it good is the cost of the materials.
So you can't make a knockoff one without cheaping out on the magnets,
and then your product will suck. So we have a pretty good functionality moat around it,
where there's just really not much point in someone competing with it,
because they're either going to have to spend a bunch of money on neodymium
in order to match the functionality of it. Or if they don't care about that, then they're going to be,
or if they want like a crappier one, then they're going to be up against people just 3d printing their own
and like hot gluing magnets into them, which is basically zero cost.
So there's not really room to, well, I shouldn't say that
because I'm sure someone's going to be like, and I took that personally and like try and compete with it or whatever.
But it's very difficult to create a new value proposition
for a product that is like this, but I don't know, like this.
Last one I've got for you today. What's the best way to clean my old desk pad?
Postscriptum, I already got a new one. I always put mine in the washing machine cold.
Even though you're not supposed to. But you're not supposed to, but I've always had good luck with it.
But what I think you're supposed to do is just use like a wetted cloth and wipe it or something like that.
That is, I believe that is what you're supposed to do. I've done that and it doesn't work as well.
So make of that what you will. And it's getting to be a thing for me,
because I got a walking pad and I've been doing that walking at home
and I am already a sweaty boy. And then I walk on the walking pad at like three and a half miles an hour
for like a couple hours. And then I need to wash my desk pad.
Nice. And when I do that, I put it in the washing machine.
So it is what it is. We should do a walking land show. See if I can keep up.
I'm sure you could.
I'm doing it right now. Prove I'm not walking under here.
I can't. It's impossible. What walking pad do you have?
I don't remember. Cool. I did a bunch of research. I bought it.
It's not actually something I like caribote or an image interested in, but I made sure that I got one that seemed good and it seems good.
My only problem is I'm a big boy and it's kind of narrow.
So I end up doing a bit of like a, almost like a catwalk.
Oh, I see. I have to like cross my feet in a little bit. Get that hips way.
Yeah, which is not awesome. But I don't think there's much wider ones that don't end up getting like really bulky.
And one of the nice things about the one that I have is when I fold it up
because it folds, which is nice. And I roll it away. It can fit under a chair that is in our little area.
So it gets to like kind of get put away, which is nice.
I just like this one because they referred to you as big L.
Like the big L you took before the show.
You should have lost as well. Us both losing would have been completely fine.
You winning makes no sense. I think you both should have lost because you delayed title thumbnail even more
to have your petty squabble outside about Luke's car parked illegally.
And defensive to, uh, yeah.
Yeah, I didn't even realize it. Sure, my bad. Second last one I've got.
Dear big L and big D and little L listening from Osaka, Japan
as a wannabe business owner. What point did you realize your business was going to be viable long term gaming
dirigible hot air balloon win? Okay. Never for that second thing.
And as for realizing the business was going to be viable long term,
I mean, depends what you mean by long term, like so few companies last 100 years.
As for like, oh man, we were pretty confident we were going to make it from the start
because we were, you bought the channel, you bought the channel for a dollar after that.
Oh, no, I wasn't at all. I, I, no, I talked a good game, but I was not sure.
I, I mean, I was in, I was in desperation survival mode.
I knew more numbers than I was supposed to, and I was pretty confident.
Probably until we paid off this building.
I was probably in like frantic survival mode. Yeah, but I like that.
That's not, that's not viable long term.
For me it is. Oh, shoot. Luke and I have the same stress disorder.
Oh my God, is everything going to implode? Now I'm finally comfortable.
I start to shut down and like things suck and I get depressed.
I don't like hearing words back at me.
Okay. Well, anyway, we need therapy.
Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, me too.
Yeah, I think when we, I think when we paid off this building, I felt, um, like it was
going to be viable long term. Even then we were still like so much at the mercy of YouTube back then.
Yeah. And when I felt properly diversified enough that we could lose any individual business unit,
like not just lose anyone sponsored, but like lose any business unit and still limp along
was probably when we launched backpack and screwdriver.
Because all of a sudden the merch business could sustain the YouTube business even if
like sponsorships dried up or if AdSense went away or if affiliate revenue went away.
And in the same way, the, the YouTube business could continue to support the merch business if,
you know, they had a couple of flops or they had a bad year or whatever else.
Like it felt with the left hand and the right hand helping each other balance out.
Um, I think was when I like really felt like, okay, yeah, like LMG float playing creator
warehouse, um, smash chance, you know, BC LTD, whatever the holdco umbrella company
or corporation is, like that's when I really felt like, okay, no, this is like a real org.
Just like I felt like this is a real end of the WAN Show.
Wait, I was wrong though. Because I haven't told the people about the incredible ship store and promo running on
lttstore.com free shipping, free shipping my friends on all orders over 150 US dollars.
That's worldwide offer and Saturday, April 19th at 1159 PM Pacific time. Oh, and would you look
at this? The MCM essential solution is just $79.99 US dollars. And to top it up, look at this
cute little animation, just add things to your cart and the bar fills up till you reach free
worldwide shipping. You could get a commuter backpack, a precision multi bit screwdriver,
any kind of screwdriver, a back pack or bag. We've got all kinds of great apparel that you can wear
on your top of your body and on your bottom of your body and on your on your head or your face.
And you can add it to your cart and you can take it home. Look at this hooded task jacket. You too
could look like this man. Wow, look at that. Incredible. See you again next week. Same bad
time, same bad channel. Bye. And I'm completely sure of that. Are you? Yeah. What?
What do you guys mean? Oh,
it works right now. Yeah, they're a total overlays. Nice.
Wow, there's so many. I'm apparently it has a warning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. How long are these going to go for? About two minutes. Two more minutes?
Good Lord. All right. Well, what are your plans this weekend?
I'm going to see the thing. Oh, you're going to see the thing. Yeah.
Okay, cool. No, probably not the one that you think. Oh, I'm playing.
Practical thing. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, the cool. Completely unrelated to all of it.
The jet?
Game and jet? Which one? Minecraft. I wouldn't go. I would go.
Chat's guessing. Minecraft. No, no. Have you figured it out yet?
Uh, a relative. Yeah. Okay. Good.
Oh my god. Might also go see the original thing. Yeah, you should go see that thing.
We're trying to figure out what time it is.
I miss schedules when they talk right now. Yeah, that makes sense.
Maybe not forever. Probably not for long. Let's go. Let's go.
Good, great. We're very, very close to it. Like genuinely.
It's pretty sad that this might be like the last time this year that we make money on the store
selling to certain countries. It was nice working for you guys.