Shut up!
Hi.
Is that still my phone? Mine's on the ground under a sweater.
Don't make me use my five power again. That was incredibly effective.
All right, we're gonna have to start this pretty soon because...
Yeah, let's sort of rip. How do I put this?
I have a lot of backpacks to sell. Oh.
All right, let's do this thing.
Not as many as I did an hour ago, though. That's good.
Okay, I'm doing it. Okay.
What's your heart out, five?
No, six. Nice. Okay, that's not too bad.
I'm resuming the selected now. What's up, everyone? Welcome to the WAN Show.
Hello. A bit of a downer week this week.
Gordon Ma, legendary PC hardware journalist, has...
Excuse me, Gordon Ma Ong... Has...
Has... Has... Has...
Has... Has... Excuse me, Gordon Ma Ong...
Has... Has passed away at 58.
So, we'll be talking a little bit about that.
His family's gotta go fund me because, you know...
Late-stage healthcare in America can be real challenging.
Yeah. So, that's a real downer.
We'll also be talking about the honey controversy that broke this week.
Turns out, honey has been doing some stuff that is not sweet.
What else we got this week? I'm talking about Linus on Colin and Samir and...
We're gonna talk about a favorite moment of 2024.
Oh. Well, that sounds at least good.
Yeah.
Oh, the show is brought to you by JumpFoud, MSI, and...
Oh, sorry, I got totally bamboozled by myself.
Boot.dev. Boot.dev, right. And, of course, it's brought to you by our chair partner, Secret Lab, our skin partner,
Dbrand, and our laptop partner, LG. So, why don't we jump right into Mr. Gordon.
Unfortunately, I suck at professional networking, and while I did have the privilege of meeting
Gordon on a number of occasions, we weren't particularly close, but it's a funny thing
because, you know, just like anyone else that I kind of cut my teeth...
Go away, phone. It's buzzing in the mic.
Like anyone else that I kind of cut my tech teeth reading, you know, the Ryan Shroutz
and the Anand Lel Shimpies of the world, you know, Gordon means more to me than I probably
did to him. Right. Yeah.
You know? Yeah, yeah. Like we did a video a little while ago building a maximum PC, dream PC, from when I was in
high school, like that was Gordon's jam, right?
I used to read those, yeah. So, I'm going to read the thing that our team prepared, just because that makes it a little
bit easier. Gordon Maung, executive editor of PC World, passed away at 58, which, sorry, I'm already
going off script, seriously 58, like 58 is the new 48, honestly, and it seems way too
soon. Yeah. After a battle with pancreatic cancer, insert obligatory cancer, I don't care how early
it is in the video. Apparently, beeping too early in the video is bad for the algorithm, but I think we can
make an exception here. Yeah. A pioneering figure in tech journalism, Gordon had over 25 years of experience, particularly
in covering computer hardware and chips. He was known for his investigative rigor, sharp wit, and strong personality, which resonated
with both his colleagues and the tech community. Gordon's career began in journalism as a police reporter for the Contra Costa Times.
In 1997, he would join Computer World and later Maximum PC, where he became famous for his
passionate, often humorous commentary and deep technical expertise.
He was the driving force behind Maximum PC's Dream Machine project and its consumer advocacy
column, Watchdog. Later Gordon joined PC World, where he continued his in-depth coverage of PC hardware.
He began his foray into video with Hardcore Hardware series and the Full Merid podcast.
He was actually shockingly good on camera for one of the traditional written people.
Yeah. I was not a given. It was not a given, like multi-talented guy.
It's very few people that made that switch, but he seemed as natural on camera as he was
on a written page, which is pretty incredible.
Parky in the chat says, never heard of him. I guess I'm too zoomer.
I promise you that you've read something, Gordon wrote.
Or read something influenced by Gordon.
I promise you. The reason for that is that so many of the formats, so many of the styles that were started
while he was there have become just commonplace.
It's kind of like saying, yeah, I've never, oh man, I'm trying to think of like a trend
setting movie or show or something like that.
It's like saying, yeah, I've never seen a bit from I Love Lucy. It's like you have.
You just don't know it because all the characters were recast and the script was retooled slightly,
but Lucille Ball was a trendsetter. Yeah.
Anyway, Gordon's work and legacy in the tech journalism space marked by both his technical
know-how and larger-than-life persona earned him widespread respect and admiration can
confirm. Gordon was committed until the very end, publishing video hardware reviews as recently as November
6th during the end of his treatment. Wow.
I give you my personal line of Sebastian promise that I will not be working up until
a couple of months before my passing.
If I find out that I have a serious illness, I will peace so fast that you guys won't even
remember I was ever here.
That is an unbelievable level of commitment and actually super admirable because you have
to know that anyone who stays at it is fighting hard.
Having that confidence that things are going to be normal someday.
Just pushing for his family, I'm sure. Yeah. If you'd like to hear more about Gordon, there's a page full of heartfelt tributes on PC World
as well as lovely videos from Tech Tech Potato, aka Dr. Ian Cutress, who is one of the folks
that I grew up reading a lot as well as Gamer's Nexus.
There's a whole bunch of discussion topics here, but I think that the best thing to do
right now, Dan, can you go ahead and get the GoFundMe linked in the chat?
Let's just hurry up. I'm just looking at this for the first time.
This is actually incredible, massive shout out to the community for stepping up here.
Why don't we just finish it off, but there's no reason that you can't exceed a goal.
So Dan, can I just give you the company card and can you do that off camera?
Absolutely. Okay, thank you.
It's the one that I am kind of pulling out here.
No, that's this one.
I don't know. You'll find it.
Thanks, Dan.
Whoa, AC3 production says Falcon Northwest donated 25,000.
They did, yeah. Massive shout out, Kel. What an absolute...
Early on, too. What an absolute chad.
Kel's super cool. He's the kind of person who, as far as I can tell, doesn't really need to, doesn't really
need to like, oh, sorry, yeah, yeah, go ahead and use that one.
That's fine. Thanks, Dan. Kel's the kind of person that, as far as I can tell, doesn't really need to build gaming
systems anymore if he doesn't really feel like it. I wish I'd gotten to know Gordon better.
Like I said, I'm terrible at networking, and I have a tendency to just go to trade shows
and stuff and just go completely head down in my work, and stuff like this that makes
me kind of regret that.
Yeah. Did you get a chance to meet him, at least?
I met him twice. Yeah, okay.
Just finish it off. They have a goal. Let's just make sure they hit it.
Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Well, on that note, why don't we move on to sort of the other heavy topic for this week,
which is, of course, honey.
So first of all, big shout out to Megaleg for the work that was done reporting on what
honey and actually, well, parent company PayPal has been up to with respect to...
This is truly a very professional podcast, video podcast, whatever this thing is.
Thank you for that, Luke. Since when are you the comic relief?
Your job is to laugh at the comic relief, or the laugh talk. I'm timely alarms.
I think that's my only standard alarm for this week that I didn't pause for the week,
because I was out. Nice. Right.
That's my leave for Wanshoe alarm. And then Wanshoe was really, because I have a flight to catch.
Brilliant. Yeah. So, massive shout out to Megaleg for the work that he put into digging into what exactly
honey's been doing. So I've got a few things to kind of discuss.
First of all, the only point from Megaleg's video that we were aware of three years ago
when we halted our honey sponsorship was the affiliate code ripping.
We heard about that from some tweets, like this one from Barnacles.
We also saw it covered on our own forum.
There we go. So that was not really news, that part of it.
But obviously, as creators, we saw that and we were like, hey, that's not really cool,
but we didn't really think that other than any creator, friends, that it was something
that impacted the general consumer. So it wasn't something that really merited a full video or anything like that.
Okay, thanks, Dan.
Were you live for that? They heard you? Or no?
Oh, okay. Dan said, yeah, he's done. And the goal is done.
Please, I'm sure that the goal is really helpful, but I'm sure that any little bits could help.
Yeah, I don't think GoFundMe looks like it's real time, so we'll have to wait a sec for
that to come through. Okay, thanks, Dan.
Okay, anyway, affiliate code ripping, bad, affects creators, doesn't affect the end user.
We were not the only ones who knew about the scam, though.
Here's a video from 2020. I actually didn't watch this one, but I don't know.
The whole thing for me with this is that Megaleg did reach out to us for comment, and my general
position on it was, yeah, we dropped these guys three years ago.
This all came out like the affiliate ripping stuff, everything we knew about came out years
ago. Very interested to see the video on all of the other stuff.
I don't really know what exactly it has to do with us.
I am a little confused still as to what exactly it has to do with us.
Anyway, back when we dropped Honey, we had a call with their executive team.
It was clear that they had no intention to revise their business model away from the
affiliate code ripping, so we decided to end our sponsorship agreement with them.
If we'd known about any of the more end user-centric issues discussed in Megaleg's video, such as
purposely not giving users the best deal possible because of behind-the-scenes partnerships
with companies, we probably would have raised more alarm bells, but we had no reason at
that time to believe that Honey was anything other than what it claimed to be, which was
a coupon finding service that took an affiliate cut.
Many in the industry stopped working with Honey without an LTT video being made, so I think
that one characterization of this whole situation that we knew and didn't tell anybody is bizarre.
We were publicly informed by other people and then acted on it.
Also we publicly posted on our forum that we dropped them and gave the reason for it.
We've also never really been like, people have tried to draw parallels between this
and Eufy, but Eufy's a tech company that had huge end user problems.
That's something that we do, that is something that we have done always.
Honey had major implications immediately right now for user privacy, whereas Honey, in some
ways it's more insidious, but in other ways it's less immediately damaging than an unencrypted
feed of every camera that our company has sold.
There's bad and then there's really, really, really, really bad.
And also in our realm.
As for Karma, why we took a sponsorship from Karma, they assured us that they didn't do
any link yoinking, which when we tested it seemed to be true.
We only worked with them once. We did four sponsor spots on three videos and then didn't work with them anymore.
As for the landing page that uses our likeness to promote Honey, we no longer have any direct
contacts that are working there, but we're working to have the page removed. Hopefully we can.
Speaking of Eufy, Anchor still uses our likeness and with these really large and in some cases
overseas companies, it can be very difficult to get stuff like that fixed.
Mike's Orange says, Linus, people think that because the video sort of implies that only
you knew, so people are misinterpreting that. I mean, I don't think it sort of implies, I think, our prominent featuring in the video
leads people there. I don't really understand that.
I don't really get the emphasis on us, to be honest with you.
I don't really know what people are expecting me to say about it other than, yeah, we heard
about it in the news, same as apparently basically everyone else, given how many folks stopped
working with them in the 2020, 2021 time frame, and yeah, cool.
It's also arguable that LTT was by far the largest channel and thus had the platform
to motivate wider change. It's arguable.
It's very difficult to argue. I mean, given that Mr. Beast was the number one honey promoter, I think that if you were
to make the argument that LTT is bigger than Mr. Beast, then not only would that be a difficult
argument, you'd be kind of a f***ing idiot. So, I don't know, dude, cool.
Should we move on? I don't really... I don't have a ton else to say on this, I think.
Honestly, when I watched the video and I remembered us dropping honey, but didn't particularly
remember the reasons. After some people brought up the old video that you had mentioned and a couple other
things, I vaguely remembered that, but I wasn't really a part of video stuff at that time,
so like... I don't know. The situation's bizarre, dude.
I am a victim here. I was surprised by the... I don't know if people noticed that.
As a creator for whom affiliate revenue from Amazon was in 2020, 7% of our business team's
revenue.
This had a significant impact on our business, and absolutely it would have impacted other
creators too, and they are victims in this, but it doesn't change that anyone who relied
on affiliate revenue and who had it skimmed by honey was victimized by honey.
We were compensated, at least partially, by being...
A lot of the... Yeah, a lot of the people that were sponsored by them were, which was like the internet
at that point in time. But like, guys.
And then the Karma Now thing looked bad, working with them one time.
Something that set out to me quite a bit during the video was that it was assessed in its
current state, because you obviously can't go back and assess it from the past.
But that gets tough, because you don't know what you guys were saying.
They assured that it didn't work that way. You tested it. Okay, cool.
They can change it on you. They could have changed it on you immediately after the sponsor spots went up.
Well, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. We don't know when it happened.
I don't know. It was all years ago. Could have happened years later, like who knows.
Yeah. And Voight says, for me, it felt like Honey was quietly dropped as a sponsor with no
messy breakup. It could have been any reason.
But as you said, back then you only knew about the affiliate ripping, which isn't too bad,
especially for users. Yeah, exactly. It's really bad for creators.
Yeah, it's really bad for creators. But it was also being plastered from the rooftops at that point in time.
Yeah, like, I don't know. Maybe Megaleg is living up to his name.
It's like at that point in time, it's also like not really our story to break.
Like if other people are already reporting on it and it's getting around a lot.
Yeah. I think it's blowing up so much right now because of the downsides for users.
Yeah, I could see that. Yeah.
Yeah. So cool. Moving on.
Yeah. Positive things. Yeah.
Yeah. Can we do that? Do you want to talk about the column in Samir?
Maybe 2024? Why don't we talk about RTX 5090?
Oh, okay. Because we don't know the price yet.
So we can still kind of have fun. Nice.
And we could pretend that anyone will be able to afford an RTX 5090.
Do you guys want to play pretend for a little bit?
Sure. Okay, I would like that though.
Cool. I still have both. Kidneys.
So I'm good. Nice. Nice.
Not for long. Damn. Yay.
New images have leaked of a populated RTX 5090 PCB and it looks full.
Oh my goodness.
Wow. That is dense with two S's.
That is wild. So there's your allegedly, alleged 32 gigs of GDDR7 RAMs.
There is all the VRMs and then there is all the rest of them.
Look at this thing. Do you have a comparison of the 4090?
Do you have both up? I don't. I don't have the 4090.
There's a link to it in the dark. Oh, is there a link in the dark? Oh, incredible.
Okay. And the 4090 was already a dense mama-jama because remember the whole like through
PCB cooling thing. Yeah.
Wow. So that's a 4090 credit to WCCF tech for posting that.
I don't know if they're actually the original poster of it.
Oh, here's the blank one. I don't know what it is, but there is something about a blank unpopulated PCB with just all
the pads that just is like, yeah, right?
Like damn. Like damn. Like damn, damn, you know, like, damn, the ham.
We're losing it today. Yeah.
So I slept about three hours last night just so you have some idea.
Like I'm, dude, I'm, I'm barely, I'm barely functional today.
So the, the, the rumors of the 5090 is that it has 21,760 CUDA cores compared to the 4090's
16,384. Pretty big jump.
The memory goes up to 32 gigs, which you would have needed like, you know, beyond 4090 in
the past to have. Which almost certainly means it has a 512 bit memory bus, which is, yeah, that combined
with going to DDR7 is like, what 16 modules memory power stages 29 versus 4090 is 23 PCB
14 layers for the 4090's 12 and the MSRP probably too much for all of us.
I don't know, dude. I don't know. Look at this.
Look at this. 1599 US. I see only three question marks.
That to me indicates, indicates, and they might have typoed.
We definitely, yeah. They might have forgotten a decimal. So we could be looking at a single dollar.
We could be looking at one, one dollar as low as one dollar, Luke.
Very nice. As low as one dollar and zero cents.
I think it could happen. I think it could happen.
Discussion question is, what is your max limit on price? Assuming performance is good compared to last year.
OK, so here's the thing. I think I've talked about this a fair bit, but it bears repeating because NVIDIA waits
two to three years between releasing GPUs now. So some of you probably don't remember or weren't around for this.
But when I saw the pricing of the 40 series.
Yeah, I made a solemn oath. I swore that I would not upgrade to it.
I have kept that promise. Yeah, my VR machine is still running a launch 3080.
OK, OK. My personal rig is still running the 7900 XTX from the Radeon Challenge.
And my like land machine in the land room is still running a
it's a it's a 3080. Yeah, so it's an EVGA 3080.
So is there a price point for this? No, I'm not done yet. I'm not done yet.
I have an eGPU for my ROG Flow X 13.
3080. My entire life 3000 series.
Enjoy your is 3000 series and below for NVIDIA.
Yeah. And then on the oh, yeah, technically, I have one more machine.
I have a little remember those little as rock like mini desktops.
I think so. Yeah. With that used in MXM module. Yes. OK.
So I have one of those in my family room upstairs for just like playing
casual games on the TV up up there. Sure.
1080 still still going strong.
1080 gang represent.
So I have no 40 series in my life. So with that said, I'm coming at this from an alternate angle.
I have a different perspective on the 50 series because I've seen a lot
of people like flip the math out going, well, this isn't worth it as an upgrade.
They're asking way too much money. But my upgrade is from a 3080 class card or a 7900, which is which is not
on par with the 4090. It's more on par with like a 3090 TI.
Yeah. Right. If we're being honest, if we're being honest, especially
if you want to look at Raytrace games, then it can even fall down below that. And Raytracing is now mandatory in some titles.
Yes. No, that's true. It's not Tomb Raider or not Tomb Raider.
Well, Guy Tomb Raider. Yeah. Nostalgia Tomb Raider.
Anywhere we go. Yeah.
Donates to a museum Tomb Raider. Great looking game, by the way.
Have you played? I have not. Great circle. Yeah. Oh, OK. Oh, my. It's so beautiful.
Nice. It looks incredible. Worth the requirement. Well, that more complicated discussion.
No more spicy takes. More complicated discussion. Yeah.
So my upgrade is much greater.
And my amenability to spending way too much money is much higher
because I got three good years. Skipped a gen out of my 3080. OK.
So they're still a limit.
I'm afraid to say anything because I really want one.
And if I say something. And you want a 4090. If I say if I say, guys, if it's over this price,
then I'm going to skip this generation and still be on 3000.
Then I'm going to be stuck on 3000 for another like five years, more years, five total years.
Yeah. And then six and then 6090. Nice. Is going to arrive.
And it's going to be like four thousand dollars.
And I'm going to be like, and if it's over $3,800, I'm not buying.
And I'm going to be running a 3080 forever.
Oh, man, maybe, maybe at that point,
NVIDIA or Intel will be so good that you'll be fine.
That's a lot of years from now. Intel thousand series.
Massive respect to what Intel has done with arc battle.
Got a lot of work. Massive, massive respect.
And and and they're catching up to NVIDIA
in the ways that I think matter more for the future.
That makes sense. So they're they're they're still when we look at die size to die size comparisons,
they're behind on raster. When we look at performance per watt, dude, they're behind.
But when we look at what Intel is doing on the software side,
their driver team is doing the work on the tech side.
Their performance, even though the support for it's not great yet.
Good. Yeah. They're ray tracing performance. Good. They're very forward thinking.
Yes. Yes. So so all that's great.
But let's face it. They are not going to have a 50 90 competitor.
They may not have a 60 90 competitor. They just got to release an SLI competitor.
All right, enough. And then it just put like four of them in. Although let them virtualize them.
We do need a reason for PCIe gen six. Like, yeah, let's do it.
OK, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But I think for I think at mainstream price points,
I hope Intel is going to just crush it.
Just give us a give us a. We'll see how rough 50 60 coming out is.
OK, whatever that happens. The the price I've seen rumored is two grand US.
Yeah, that's the price that I've seen rumored.
But that goes back far. Like I haven't seen I I intentionally don't really follow the rumors
that closely in the lead up to a product launch, because realistically,
I'm going to get briefed on it anyway. And that will be the real information anyway.
Right now, isn't that like twenty eight hundred cat? Yeah, more.
It's it's probably more like twenty nine hundred Canadian dollars.
Yeah, two thousand years to get a cat.
And I think what? Oh, yeah, twenty eight eighty four. What's median?
What's median income these days? Like thirty eight thousand or something like that?
Median income, Canadian. Oh, my goodness.
Oh, wait, is this household? Median income, hold on.
Median income was forty one thousand seven hundred in twenty twenty two.
Yeah, so here's my source. Wowwood.ca I have no idea how I have no idea how accurate that is or anything.
But like we are basically we are basically looking at like a tenth
of your take home by the time you actually like get taxed on that and stuff.
Yeah, the tariffs, guys, the tariffs wouldn't be from China.
They'd be from Taiwan, which ones?
People are like, oh, you have to factor in tariffs now. No, you we could end up I doubt it.
But that would only be for the states anyway. For Canada, I doubt that we would be paying any kind of import tariffs
on Chinese exported GPUs. They're going to start smuggling GPUs over the board.
Yeah, the GPUs themselves are made in Taiwan, but a lot of the card assembly is done in China.
So the finished GPU would probably be subject to any Chinese tariffs.
But but that's all speculative until after January sometime.
So for the sake of discussion.
Yeah, two. Fauzo, USD.
That's too much. I'm going to do it. What if it's twenty two hundred?
Stop what? I'm not going to let you pin me down on this.
I'm not going to know. I'm not going to commit to anything.
I'm not going to commit to anything. Is there you don't have to vocalize it?
Is there a limit? You don't have to tell anyone just in case you want to get out of it or whatever.
Is there a point where you would be there? A soft limit right now?
I don't want to open my wall because you're going to like for a context.
He's not going to buy one. No, no, I will.
I'll buy one. OK, look, if I'm going to say
I accept this madness, I can't just I can't just use my influencer clout
to be like to someone one. I don't I don't think that's right
because I took a principled stand on forty series. I was like, this is too expensive.
I won't even use it. If I'm going to break that, I think I have to pay for it.
Going from sixteen hundred to two grand in one generation
doesn't deserve a principled stand. Luke, what GPU do you run?
I don't want to talk about it. What is it? I know what it is.
It's pretty good. Yeah, what is it? It's pretty good. Well, if you want to see it,
you should check out the the line of sectors video on Bulbasaur.
See, I have no problem. I have no problem. I have no problem gifting, you know, a forty series to someone.
That's that's no problem. I didn't need to get involved. I just wouldn't. Yeah, I just wouldn't buy one.
I just I wouldn't I wouldn't buy a forty series. And so because I didn't want to hack and just request one then,
I was like, I didn't use them. Yeah, he actually didn't.
I mean, he did hint to someone. Oh, I thought you were bringing up the video. He was. It was.
I just didn't know you were doing that. Let me bring it back. He did hint to someone that he kind of wanted an upgrade or something.
I think. Or maybe. No, I'm actually excited. I think it was Jake's idea.
Anyway, let me make let me make at risk of being called
an advocate for the devil himself.
Let me make an argument for my two thousand dollar GPU.
OK, OK, I'm going to find something.
Because to be fair, that's like really close
to the current cost of my current car.
Yeah, I used to talk about, like, you know, the first car that I bought as a as a scale for computer parts.
Now it has to be the one that I drove here today.
Yeah, which is crazy.
You can you can buy something that literally gets you from A to B
instead of something that like digitally gets you from A to B.
When I was growing up. A computer set up at Future Shop.
OK, OK. Hold on.
So you know where I'm going with this, but hold on.
A computer set up from Future Shop would have probably cost you somewhere in the neighborhood
of twenty five hundred to forty four hundred dollars.
OK, right. That was in like nineteen ninety eight dollars.
And they could have easily gone more like easily. You could spend five grand on on a computer
on a on a personal computer as they called them back then.
I would make the argument that like TVs.
PCs, in spite of some of the utter craziness
of the last few years, have actually beaten inflation.
You can still get for like four thousand dollars.
A computer tower and the fact that it can contain
something as powerful as a forty ninety actually kind of impressive.
Kind of cool. It is not that wild to spend three, four, five grand on a PC
once every five to six years. It's pretty wild.
And but but it's not it's not it's also not wild.
Like it's it's a thing that when I grew up was normal. Every family.
But when tech scales, you don't have to keep spending the same amount.
No, you don't. But you also can. And you can get you can get a PC that is vastly more powerful
than that nineteen ninety eight machine for five hundred bucks. Yeah. So you absolutely don't have to.
But I also think cell phone. I also think that for something that is that is a purchase that you will use
for an extended period of time and that you will get much, much, much, much,
much use out of it is not entirely unreasonable.
I don't know if you're going to get that much use out of it.
Yeah, that's fair. I don't I don't really get to gain that much.
It does. I feel like it's like, however, on your ally, however.
Which of us is further into our play through of the Pixel remaster of Final
Fantasy six, you or me? Wait, are you playing it?
It's on sale. I picked it up. Oh, no, he's going to be.
I said I was going to play this week that I had actually a very busy week.
No time speaking of my ally.
Oh, boy. Where are you at? Well, let's just see.
Why don't we just see if you recognize where I am? Because part of the problem is that he quote unquote doesn't have any time
to play games, but then you'll see him jump on a game on steam at like midnight.
And it's like, oh, I wonder what he's doing. But then you know, it's not on his computer
that he would have spent all these thousands of dollars on. I could stream it.
Wrecked on the ally. Yeah, of course.
Is there a camera on the. What? No, no, no, no, not that kind of streaming. You're just going to like, oh, like I could.
Would you stream the pixel remaster? So I could get like 9000 FPS.
Who cares? Don't worry about it. OK, so here's what we're going to do.
Here's what we're going to play a little game called. Do I know where you are?
Do you recognize where I am? No. All right.
So you've had it for like a couple days. QED.
All right, well, you're going on a trip. Are you going to play it on your trip? Yep.
Turn it. Where are you at? Are you still at the Imperial Magitech facility?
No, I'm past that. You passed that. Yeah. Oh, OK. Are you at the sealed gate?
Past that, I believe. So you've had the banquet.
No, OK. So you're probably somewhere,
somewhere in that neighborhood. Yeah. OK. Well, I'm not going to spoil anything.
Not going to spoil anything.
I will say, though, that if I feel like treating myself to a nice gaming PC,
I think that unlike some people, I can complete a game in a year.
So I should be entitled to do that. I wanted to do it this holiday season.
I was so ready for you to tell me I don't game. I was so ready. Yeah.
I my brother spun up a family holiday Valheim server.
So we've been playing as my brother and my dad. That's pretty cool.
So that took the time that I thought I was going to spend playing Final Fantasy 6.
That's pretty cool, though. That seemed fair. I respect it. I respect it. I'm still going to try it.
Now that I know you're on the on the track, I'm still going to try to get it out.
All right. Get it finished pretty quick. All right, let's go. Let's go. I've I've spent a lot of time
like dinking around doing stuff I totally don't need to do. I will say this, though.
The Pixel remaster is easy. Oh, oh, dude.
That makes sense. It is so easy because I've I've heard you talk
and I've heard a lot of other people talk about like needing to grind a bunch and stuff
and and certain fights that you're like, oh, this is really hard. And then I wouldn't did it.
It was like, I don't think I did anything special. Dude, it's like it's like a joke.
OK, so they difficulty tuned it. Laughably easy. OK.
Well, it's not just like it's not just difficulty tuned. It's like certain things were broken in the original game.
The evade stat literally didn't work. OK.
So you like always got hit
but would miss a lot and it was real real frustrate also the ability to
to just turn off random encounters while you find your way through something.
Like I didn't do that. I to this day didn't realize
how small some of the dungeons were because when you're getting into so much
random encounter every three steps, they feel.
Huge. Yeah, they feel enormous like you could never navigate them.
That almost feels like some of the difficulty sometimes
is the like time between potential rest areas.
So being able to turn that off. Oh, dude, and the way the saving works,
it has like quicksave. Yeah. Oh, dude. The game didn't have quicksave.
You went back to the last like star. Those stars were like,
there'd be one more random encounter before I get there. Like it was a huge deal.
And like, dude, the map I've definitely been using the map marks the Chocobo stables.
Yeah, those were on the map. Well, aren't they in the player?
Oh, OK, I don't think so. Hold on. Hold on.
Final Fantasy III included map North America.
I don't think so, though. Like you definitely would have been able to get here.
Here's one. You definitely would have been able to get like a like a strategy guide or whatever.
Back in the day. Yeah. But no. Yeah.
So like so traversing ground was like tough.
Yeah, if you didn't like have a friend who knew where they were
or whatever, right? Like it was I didn't turn off random encounters.
I have never bought a Chocobo. Oh, you don't you don't have to buy them or rent it or whatever.
Oh, oh, OK. Yeah. OK, you definitely.
Oh, being a dude being able to walk diagonally.
I do. I do that. Huge. Yeah. Huge, because that's literally one step one and a half one step for two.
Yeah. Oh, what's what's another big one? Oh, yeah, the fact that you have sprint shoes always equipped.
You had to use a relic slot to be able to walk fast.
And you couldn't walk fast outside of towns. Oh, yeah.
So like hiking was tedious.
Like there's there's a lot that they've done to make.
Oh, the explanations for like what equipment does and what espers do and stuff has been.
I find some of that to still be weird has been upgraded.
But the interface for equipping espers is actually worse.
I did it once and couldn't find it again. The next time I went to play the OG interface is so much better.
Actually, for espers and seeing seeing all the spells they teach
and also the the level up stat boosts that they give you.
Now, part of why it's comically easy for me is that I'm obsessively going in
after every random encounter and like fine tuning which espers are on my guys
so that I make sure that I get the best like level up stats. Oh, I'm definitely not doing that.
Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that because it makes the game like comically easy.
It also doesn't feel necessary to be honest. Anyway, back to never lost.
Really? Yeah. Oh, I've still I've still managed to lose some. But it might just be because I'm like clowning around.
Maybe you'll you'll lose some stuff. I'm sure you'll definitely be very close a few times.
There was one of the like, I think it was more of a mini boss and a natural boss.
But I don't know if my scaling was weird for that fight or something. But I found it very hard.
I went down to one person at one point, but was able to bring people back up.
Are you are you are you leveling up all of your characters?
Or do you just have like one main party or four that you just are going with?
There's a couple people that I really try to always have there.
But other than that, I'm mostly trying to cycle a little bit. Oh, another big one is Sabin's blitzes.
Like you had to enter them without any indicator.
So you just like wouldn't find out until he went to execute the action
and it'd be like, yeah, you input it wrong. And so he does this thing, he'd go forward and his eyes would flash
like he's about to do it. And it would just say incorrect blitz input and he'd go back.
Also, Kyane, you know how you just like pick whatever
sword technique you want to use? Yes. He had a timer.
So you had to wait. And if you played like me with active turn battle,
so like everything's happening in real time while you're sitting in the menus,
if you're waiting for like Quadroslam for his fourth,
you're like waiting and getting like creamed.
Yeah. So there were there were some big, big difficulty differences.
Yeah, like Sabin's in my party all the time. Yeah, I think he's my my like main, I guess.
But most other people swap out a little bit. He was he was less reliable in the original version,
unless you were like really good at the inputs. I think I've only ever missed one because it displays it.
Yeah, it shows you. You can't screw it up. I was like, oh, yeah, I only missed one because I just like fat fingered a button
or something. I was like, oh, crap. Yeah, it was. Yeah. Yeah, that's about it.
And sometimes you can get unlucky, like when the party split up
and you recruit shadow. Yeah, you know about that. Yeah, there's a there's a random.
There's an RMG and he can leave after the first item, leave after the first fight once.
Yeah, he's stuck with me for quite a while. And I was like, OK, that's cool.
I'm pretty neat and good game.
Well designed to be nice to be. Yeah, if that started after like at least a few fights or something.
Yeah, also, because I've played the game before, I know when to like unequip guys because they're going to like leave.
So I've gotten wrecked by that a couple of times. We're like a lot of really good things going to one person.
They piece for like a while. OK, yeah, it's pretty now when they come back,
those things aren't very good anymore. Yeah. And the cell rates is pretty rough.
I don't actually know what it is, but it's pretty rough. So 50 90. Right.
I'm going to buy one to play Fonofasty 6 on your ally to play whatever to play.
To play whatever I want to play to play. Anno released five years ago on your PC.
Dude, I just got a 4K to 40 Hertz, 27 inch.
It supports DP one point two point one.
Wait, I didn't get anything.
I'm not talking about anything. But if you did get something in the future, then there'd be a video about it for sure.
And you'd want to make sure that you had something powerful to run it, I guess. Yes, just in case.
Because of those potential resolution and frame rates, that would be really tough.
Just. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't say who it's from. Yeah, that's true, actually. Yeah.
Yeah, that helps quite a bit.
Cool. Anyway, apparently it's got a single 12 volt two by six power connector,
which replaces 12 volt high power. Shorter sensor pins, longer conductor terminals.
OK, or hear me out NVIDIA.
PCI-E8 pin. Just put a bunch of them on like we used to.
You know what? Forget it. Actually, it's a bad idea. All right. What are we supposed to be talking about?
Explain merch messages. Yes, a few of you have found them already, I assume.
Dan, how's the merch messages going over there? They're pretty good.
I'm keeping up just fine. Really? OK.
Well, we haven't really talked for anyone who doesn't know about it yet,
about the deal we have running on the all new computer backpack.
It's here. Let's go. Yeah. You've looked at it already, right?
I have one. Oh, you have one. How do you like it? It's very nice.
I immediately I traditionally walked around with the power connector
and laptop just like loose around work. And now it's my like my work backpack, which is nice.
Let's go. This is it, folks. The commuter bag.
It is selling like billio.
People are absolutely loving this thing. I've got a fully loaded one here.
We're going to switch to the Linus. OK, maybe you're going to have to adjust this at some point
because I just hit my mic.
Yeah, holding it on this side with the mic is very challenging. Anyway, it's got two water bottle holders.
They are the same size, both of them. No, it's OK.
We have two water bottle holders so you can use one for your umbrella, one for your water bottle,
whatever you like. We've got our pouch of holding.
Oh, my goodness, I'm dying. Are you sure you don't want me to hold it?
Yeah, I'd be fine. But I got some tennis elbow, so my ARM is in a lot of pain.
OK, yeah, yeah, if you just wanted to finish on doing the zipper,
that'd be great. There we go. So it comes all the way down.
Put your mouse in there, put your tech sack in there, put your notepad in there, your SSD in there, your pen,
your screwdriver, of course, with our classic zippered screwdriver pocket.
In case you drop a bit or something like that in the bottom, we want to make sure you guys are able to get that out.
We've got a sunglass holder in the top. Sunglass pouch right in there.
Get your get your sunglasses in there. And then, of course, it's tech forward,
zips all the way down so you can reach all your good stuff
with two spots for battery banks or even gigantic power bricks
and cables and then a tablet slot, as well as a laptop slot.
And there's another zippered pouch there. Oh, and the best part and the part that has got people losing their minds
is I saw a lot of pricing speculation with people saying like one fifty, one fifty.
That'd be like that'd be like sick. One fifty would be great, but I'm afraid to hope for it
because this is all the same quality materials as the original bag.
YKK zippers, reprieve fabric, made of recycled water bottles, all that good stuff.
But we did it one fifty and for a limited time only.
And I really do mean limited time only. It is thirty dollars off.
It is one twenty if you buy it through YouTube shopping.
Oh, I just want to give you guys a little update here.
To do to do to do. Hold on, I'm just going to refresh the thing.
So I already told people on the WAN Show before someone says I missed the YouTube deal.
Sad. No, you didn't. The YouTube deal is active. It's active now.
I told you guys before it's limited to seventeen hundred units so far.
And Luke can verify this because apparently I'm a I'm a big liar in a scumbag.
If you believe all of the recent scandals or whatever.
We're at twelve thousand six hundred and thirty five units.
So we still have what does that work out to forty four hundred units at the discounted price.
It is possible. It is possible that they will not make it through the weekend.
So if you guys want to pick one up, the discount is through YouTube shopping.
What? Those numbers make no sense. Seventeen thousand. We have seventeen thousand.
So I said seventeen hundred. My bad. Well, I mean, I'm a big liar, so that's probably it.
So we have we have forty four hundred more discounts.
You buy it through YouTube shopping, which Dan, is it set up on WAN Show today?
It should be pinned. I've seen some stuff that you might have to disable ad blocker for it to show up
if you are using one. That makes sense. One thing that I'm finding as well.
So you have to you have to click on the little product. OK, so I'll go to my laptop.
You have to click on this thing. And then when it goes to the store, it's not going to show the discount immediately.
So you have to add it to your cart. It shows the full price.
You have to add it to because it's YouTube's discount. Whatever you have to add it to your cart.
And then in your cart, you'll see it. Boom. Someone says WTF not on Floatplane.
That's because the money, the thirty dollars from YouTube is not from us.
Yeah. So when your payment goes through, YouTube kicks in thirty dollars.
We are getting one hundred and fifty dollars. But to promote YouTube shopping, Google is is sort of co launching this product
with us in extremely, extremely generous offer.
We would be charging one forty nine ninety nine. And we're going to keep selling this backpack for years at one forty nine ninety nine.
And based on the reactions that people had to the original price when we announced it,
that that's going to do great. And it's going to go gangbusters for us, for everyone who doesn't see this message right now.
But Google is pitching in thirty US dollars.
So you could see that. Oh, I will not talk in any more detail about anything.
Cool. Anyway, buy it through YouTube shopping one nineteen ninety nine.
I don't know. I don't know. I got like four messages from he just says stop talking.
So I'm good. It's technically one twenty point zero zero.
Got him. Linus is liar again. Yeah, confirmed, confirmed, unethical.
Are you hiding the rest of the zeros from us? Free the floats.
Anyhow, anyway, the point is we love YouTube shopping.
And we love our Google overlords. I don't think they love us right now.
I don't know. Maybe they won't notice.
OK, well, that's a merge message. Would you like me to read you one before you do the.
Oh, yeah, we should explain merge messages. So while you're checking out on the store, you can leave a merge message.
If you just put something in your cart, you'll get a little box. Hey, there you go.
And you can send a merge message. Producer Dan, who looks like this and is in the dark today.
OK, we couldn't afford power over Christmas.
Christmas was we had too many Christmas lights running. We couldn't afford any lights for Dan like dried up.
Anyway, it'll go to producer Dan will pop your message up here
or give you a response or curate it for me and Luke to respond to on the show.
Dan, do you want to show us how it works? Sure. Hi, LDL looking at where Luke is today.
What do you guys think about lying on your resume?
I'm looking for a new job and want to know what you guys think. Keep up the good work.
Well, being an unethical liar, I would say, lie as hard as you can as much as you can.
I wouldn't advise it by the time Luke, first of all, Luke.
Faked it till he made it. Yeah, that part's pretty important.
He did manage to successfully perform the job functions as expected,
even though he did not have the experience that he claimed to have.
When he came into it, he figured it out. So you're going to have to be ready to do that.
And by the time he got busted or rather admitted it to me,
it was in an as friends conversation as friends.
And I was like, oh, you also, this is far from the worst you've done at this point.
So I'm going to...
That sounds about right. Sounds about right. It's not a good way to kick off a relationship, though.
And I wouldn't advise you to try it. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, man. Yeah. I've also, like, I've had a not insignificant amount.
I kind of wish I never said it on camera, not because I don't mind owning it,
but because people have, like, taken it as like, uh-huh-huh, I'll do this to him and it'll be funny.
Oh, that serves you right. And I've caught a bunch of people doing it,
and then I'm like, well, I can't, like, this isn't... That doesn't work.
Yeah, if you get... So it's one of those things where it's like, big bet, big reward, big downside.
Yeah. Right? Bet big, you either win big or lose big.
Because if we don't catch you, maybe you get the job.
If we catch you, you will almost certainly be removed from any consideration.
Yeah, and a lot of the positions have, like, and technically the one that I did had a form of testing as well,
but a lot of the positions here have some form of testing,
or, like, a trial period or something like that. Yeah, my interview process for him was a three-hour vibe check, so...
And we filmed something.
In fairness, filming stuff back then was as simple as, like... Oh, yeah.
Can you make sure that the correct object is visible in the...
So just do this. Dude, with that said, though, you'd be surprised at how many people f*** that up.
They just couldn't. They just, like, couldn't. I'd be like, because, like, for you, it's obvious, right?
If I'm like, you know, Google's had an amazing year this year.
They've come out with this, and they've come out with that, and what I really want to show you is this.
And I look at... Okay, so to him, that's obvious. You wouldn't believe the number of people who just stayed on me.
Well, I was literally not even looking in the lens, and I'm, like, talking about this thing in my hands, and I'm, like...
This, this, for the love of God, this. Because we... There was no second take back then.
Yeah, yeah. Especially because a lot of it, legitimately,
was taking the thing out of the box, and in many cases, that was breaking seals.
So, like, there was no second take. Yeah. The little ZmbT says, Luke, Luke's problem was,
he just focused the camera on the road.
That's a good reference. Yeah, that's a quality reference.
Yeah. Oh, man.
Anyways, yeah, don't... Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that.
Yeah. Dear Duke... Oh, hold on, hold on.
By East One says, there is no second take because there's only one tape.
There were times we cheated. Oh, yeah. If something went catastrophically wrong,
we would turn the box around. Yeah. And break the seal on the other side.
For sure, yeah. It's just, you don't aim to do that.
Yeah. That's supposed to be, like, a really, really, like,
last solution-type situation. Do you want to show Lieutenant Beefy
where YouTube shop is really quick one more time? There's a few people that are having trouble finding it.
If you are having trouble finding it, so it's on the six months ago I teased you
with this LTT Store commuter backup video. Not a great still frame.
If you're having trouble seeing this little block right here,
it's probably something to do with ad blocking
or tracking blocking or something like that, some type of add-on you have,
or potentially your browser, but you're probably running Chrome, so it's probably fine.
Should be on this WAN Show as well. Oh, okay. I didn't know that.
That's cool. Should be pinned in this WAN Show. I sure hope so.
Let's see. Let's see.
There it is. Cool. Okay. So that's how you do it.
And then that should bring you, yeah, right here. And then again, when you get to this page,
it's not going to actually show it lower. You have to add it to your cart,
and then in the cart, it will be discounted.
Cool beans. There you go. Okay.
One more? Yeah, yeah, sure. Hit me with the merge message.
Dear Duke and Dan, and vertically challenged superstar.
Sorry, one sec. Some people are finding that it's
geofence to a certain degree. So they have to VPN around to get it.
I wonder if that is a YouTube thing, yeah. I don't know.
Yeah, it could be limited. I don't know anything about that. It's a YouTube shopping promo.
So we do not have any control over what regions
YouTube shopping is able to operate in. And hey, it's still a great bag at 150.
Yeah, yeah, true. Our notes say here, you may need to disable your ad blocker or VPN
if you don't see the tagged product. So yeah, I think it is geofenced.
Or enable your VPN.
Pregnant! No, do we have a private internet access link?
Coincidentally, Dan, if we have...
P.I.A. It's a service that we've talked about a lot
that I've used for many, many years now. Yeah. And you know, just sometimes you run into situations
where you need to access a thing as though the thing is from some other thing.
I have no idea if it'll work on this. I legitimately don't know.
Check if you're getting scammed on flight prices. Like I've run into times when even using a VPN
was not good enough. Like when I tried to buy a Valve Index, man,
they got that locked. They had that locked down.
I had to get someone from America
with an American credit card from an American bank
to buy that thing for me and send it up to me.
God bless America. Have you ever had the scenario
where you get cheaper flights worth? Yee-haw!
Southern Linus would actually be amazing.
These gosh darn 4090s.
I will take a stand. Anyways, have you had the flight prices thing work?
I have. Okay, cool. I've had people tell me that's debunked. It's debunked.
But I'm like, I don't know what to tell you. We literally did a video about it. I didn't know it was theoretically debunked or not.
I, there was recently, I thought it was working
and then we figured out that it was Canadian versus USD but they didn't show any differentiation.
Oh, interesting. Yeah.
Anyways. Southern Linus and the Luchs of Vaz.
Okay, credit to PK7 and Floatplane Chat. That's pretty good. 10 out of 10.
Nicely done. All right.
Dan, why don't you hit us with one more? I'm trying. Oh wait, have you not done it yet?
No. Well, get on with it, man. What is the jankiest solution or fix ever suggested
for something that everyone said no to and looking back how bad it would have really been?
Oh man. Everyone said no to. And it was worse than expected.
Jankiest fix.
Most of the terrible janky fix solutions, I've just done them.
Yeah, and they mostly work. Yeah. Like I don't know if we've been,
I don't know if we've been burned that badly.
Like. Yeah, to be honest. Oh, the air fiber link between here and Creator Warehouse
went out sometimes. But I think what we determined was the problem
was that they were too close. No, they were too close to the roofs.
Oh, was it that? I thought they were too close to each other. Oh, I mean.
And they were designed for like a higher power might have changed, but I think there was some reflections
for them being like they're supposed to be in a post. We like glue them to the ground.
The swimming pool water cooling works though. Yeah, well it does now.
After that fitting like corroded away and it leaked all over everything.
I don't think that was like the concept. Yeah, it's also not that janky.
It's actually pretty good. Yeah. And it's like a thing.
Oh, the, oh, this one was funny. So the roof solar that's supposed to contribute
to heating the pool, that one doesn't work at all. Because they filled it.
And I forgot that they told me they filled it, but they didn't glide call it.
So last winter, everything blew up.
And it has to be like completely replunged. And I haven't gotten around to it.
Yeah. Yeah. So that one, that one was bad. Speaking of which, how's the bike going?
Your bike is my Final Fantasy 6. I made progress. Oh, okay.
I made progress actually this while I was off. I reset up everything.
I added a second intake fan. So I have better positive pressure.
So I was getting a little bit of dust on some of the previous parts. Yeah.
I remixed my primer, which had settled into water and mud,
and took probably about 10, 15 minutes. So with the like the drill powered paint mixer
to get to, to get going again, I redid my hangers
for the wheels because the ones I was using before made them kind of hard to maneuver.
So I made new ones out of like chopsticks and then aircraft wire and then like another chopstick
so that instead of coming down like this, it comes down like this now.
So it's a little bit easier to handle. More room. So no, I actually spent a few hours on it
over the last being off this week. Getting prepped. I'm getting it, I'm getting it going again.
I got a space heater for the booth so that it won't get too low. I got that set up and made sure everything's good to go.
So I'm actually, I'm actually good to get going again. Nice.
I got this.
Do a stream where Linus paints his bike and Luke plays 5, 5, 6, first to finish wins.
It's not a horrible idea. It's actually not a terrible idea.
I'd probably be pretty fun actually. I mean you guys just hang out in the shop together
and you know, Luke plays it on an ally or something. Yeah, there's, there's, there's a lot of multi-content
style streaming that's happening these days. And like even just multi-content content,
like you look at the shorts with like the, whatever racer thing going on
while they talk about something else. Subway surfers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the problem though.
These are projects that neither Luke nor I individually
have managed to work on. Assuming that we are going to somehow align the stars
so we can be in the same place at the same time doing it at the same time.
I mean, yeah. Well, come on.
Pause. Come on, man. Get your mind out of the gutter.
Get your mind out of the gutter. It likes it there.
It's comfortable, it's familiar.
Oh man. I didn't actually watch the video. Did they cut out my, uh, did they cut out?
All right. No, you never, never. If they cut it out, then I'll leave it cut out.
Uh, okay. What are we supposed to be doing?
Cool.
Um. The, uh, the LTT commuter backpack announcement.
Is that different than what we did for the merge messages call-out?
I don't think so. Okay. They just have cute links. If you go to LMG.GG slash discount please,
then, um, it will take you to the store.
And then when you add it to the card, it'll automatically be applied. So if you're having trouble, LMG.GG slash discount please.
That brings you to the YouTube video. Oh, cool. All right, see you later.
Bad guy. And it's kind of however you want to spell it. Please, full word, PLZ, PLS, both of those words.
It's a bad guy. All three of those words. Um, all right, um, I had a lot of fun hanging out with Colin Smear.
Yeah. It was good. Yeah. The video went up. It's funny.
They, um, I, I just, I, I, I felt like, I, I don't know.
I felt like they did a really good job. They just kind of, man, the dossier they had on me.
Yeah. I don't think that made it into the cut, but they had like,
they had like a book this thick on me. It included everything from like, like, like AI summaries
that were full of mistakes to like a printout of the Wikipedia,
which I think might also have some mistakes on it. But they also had, um, like past sort of times I've addressed
stuff or stories that I've told on like, when shows that they had all these like citations, like they had a whole, clearly
they have someone who, or either they do it or someone on
their team does it where they go through and they have like a whole, like, like background check process for guests on
their show, um, which makes me, it makes me all the more
surprised that they decided to host me given how controversial I am.
It was actually really interesting reading through, uh, both
that and, uh, assumptions.
Yeah. Reading through sort of like the audience questions.
And then in the case of Colin and Samir, the questions beforehand
compared to the comments on the video itself, like it's,
I noticed that too. It is a stark difference.
It really is. What the like terminal, terminally online commenters want to
talk about versus what people who actually watch a video care
about no relation to each other whatsoever.
Um, anyway, it was, it was a lot of, it was a lot of fun. I was very surprised to see the final cut and that it was like
two hours long because we only sat down for a little over two
hours. Like I don't, I don't think they ultimately cut that much out of
it. I think, uh, Colton had asked to have a look at it, but I never
had a look at the, at the cut before they, before they uploaded
it. Um, I skipped through parts of it.
I haven't, it's obviously it's long. I don't think you need to watch it.
Like you, you literally watch, you live through, you survive
so I keep changing the language here to better reflect the situation, the WAN Show every week.
So I, I don't think you need to, yeah. And you were, you were there for a lot of the stories that I
was telling. So there really isn't, I don't think I just wanted to see
like what the vibe was basically that that was all I was
really doing. And it, it seemed pretty good. I didn't sleep well the night before.
I'll tell you that much. You seemed fairly relaxed though.
I was trying to be. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. It's like, um, like I thought, I thought that was pretty good.
Like we, we, we wanted a chance to, to kind of talk to an
audience other than just our own audience. That's why we, that's why we went down and, uh, you know,
did it in their studio and why we went down and did assumptions as well.
Um, I think that, you know, for, for a while I've been a
bit of a shut-in. Like there's been some exceptions lately. We've done some, some fun collabs like with Mighty
Car mods, uh, but like I've never really done like the, the
interview circuit or anything like that. Like it was very, you know, generous of Ludwig to
invite me to the yard, but I've never really gone out and
been like, Hey, do you need a guest for your show before that I can remember?
Um, and, uh, it was fun.
Actually. Yeah. Yeah. It was fun. It was cool to see how many people in our audience caught
that the collab was coming when we shot our arc battle mage video in their studio.
Oh. Yeah. Cause like their audience obviously knew cause they posted
ahead of time. Hey, do you have any questions for Linus? Which by the way, as far as I can tell, they completely
ignored cause they, they had their own questions ready.
And I read through the questions that people asked on Twitter and stuff. I was like, I don't remember seeing any of this there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, uh, but yeah, I, I was cause I've watched some of
their content before just sort of like, I don't know, I think it's, they actually do some really interesting stuff.
Well, yeah, they're, they're like the creators. YouTube meta game.
About creators for creators channel. Yeah. Yeah.
It's, it's, I've watched quite a bit of their stuff. Um, and something that I've, I've noticed is that people
tend to be pretty relaxed and pretty open.
And I was like, okay, is Linus going to go like presenter style?
Like, will you have come off just filming something an hour before because that's normal and be like in
like presenter mode? And then no, like you were, you were kind of chilling,
having an open conversation. So I thought it was good. I think it was good that Colton and I went together
because we talked for like four hours on the flight down there.
So maybe I was just in like chill chatting about the business mode because realistically both of us are the
kind of people that just never turn off.
So we, we literally talked for like four hours on the
flight down there. They didn't shut up the whole time. I'm sorry to anyone who was on that flight from YBR to LA
my apologies. Yeah.
Someone's saying I should go on Joe Rogan. I've had that suggested before.
A, I've never been invited. B, I don't know what we'd talk about.
I literally have no idea because I, I find, I am very
knowledgeable about a niche that as far as I can tell almost
no one cares about, which is like tech YouTube.
Because a lot of what I know is not even necessarily applicable to non, like non tech or non, at least
tangentially related like, like science or, you know,
education YouTube or like, like you could, like you could kind of find ones that are like kind of similar
where you're trying to present information and also make it entertaining or whatever else.
Yeah.
Next topic. Yeah. Scrappy DP says he doesn't know who you are.
A hundred percent. He has absolutely no idea who I am.
I don't think I've ever seen him operate a computer. So I think his, I think his producer at some point
or something talked about the screwdriver though. Redban is not his producer, but has worked with him in
the past and definitely knows who we are for sure.
Um, he, he's like the, what is the kill Tony?
Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. That's the one I'm thinking about. Yep.
But I think he used to work with Joe Morgan in the,
in the way past or something. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Okay.
Red, red bands weren't like, he's had like, I think he's talked about the screwdriver.
He's worn a, an LTX sweater on one of the kill Tonys in the
past. Um, cool. Yeah.
So he's definitely been around. Also, I think I don't remember.
Oh, I guess this would be before you were doing YouTube stuff,
but I thought Joe Rogan was really into like Quake.
I've heard that. And doing land stuff back in the day.
I don't know. That would have had to be like a thousand years ago. A little bit a long time ago.
All right. Melody Bun, there is no risk of me going on Rogan.
They're begging me not to go on. I have not been invited.
He literally doesn't know who I am. It's fine. Just chill.
My goodness. Do you think a, like a gorilla could play badminton?
Sorry. What? You know, like a gorilla, like they're pretty strong at like fast.
What do you think? Are you, are you saying I should play Joe Rogan in badminton?
No, no, no, no. Like a, like a gorilla. Do you think that could play badminton? He's trying to be Joe Rogan.
I'm prepping you for your interview. I've never watched the Rogan experience.
Okay. I've, I've seen the occasional clip here and there.
Like are those the kind of questions he asks? I don't know. I don't, I've seen clips like that.
There's like a meaning that all his interviews turn into him talking about like,
what if this was a giant scary animal and could you like take it on?
So it doesn't matter that you're a tech YouTuber because you won't be talking about that.
I see. It's like that. I think the whole thing is like, yeah, like could you fight a bear slash?
Have you done DMT before? That's the meme, I think. That's DMT.
I was going to, I was going to mention that if it didn't. Drug. Oh, okay.
What is it though? I don't know. Dime methyl tryptamine as a strong psychedelic drug.
I think the answer is you have not. Well, yeah, I mean, obviously.
But like, what's its, well, what's its colloquial name?
DMT. Van versus Joe Rogan in a cage. That would end poorly.
Yeah. He might be old, but he's still a lot bigger than me.
He's going to do one of those spinny kicks and send us into orbit.
Dmitri and Fantasia.
Schedule one controlled substance in the United States, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Okay. Okay. So it's just called DMT.
Okay. Well, I mean, now I know about that. So if I ever get into when I, yeah, when I start my hookers and blow arc,
then I'll, I'll have another. DMT and bears.
I would work in Vancouver. I'll tell you that.
Please tell me the bear thing was intentional.
I'm sorry. I'm going to shut up now.
Oh man. I mean, I feel like I'm overdue for a real scandal, you know?
Like I feel like, I feel like to put in con, to put things in context, I need to like,
like run over some orphans or something, you know? Because then me not, me not talking about, you know, a sponsor that we haven't worked with in
three years will be just, people will be able to put it in the correct context, you know?
Yeah. Like come on, tell me, tell me, what, what, what scandal do you guys want?
You want like a good one? Not, yeah, don't, you know, don't run over orphans.
Give me something. You know. Speeding. Come on.
I mean, that, that was another, that was another funny one to me just because like,
the fact that every other car YouTuber does blur their speedo, does that make what they're doing?
Like any, the fact that they successfully blur their speedo, does that make it like better?
Like I'm not saying that it's a good thing to do, that you should just rip around on public roads.
Wasn't he in a school zone? He was, there was a, I didn't really.
There was a children at play sign of some sort, but I don't think there's any
concrete evidence that it was in effect. It may have been time delimited.
Got it, okay.
Like dude, there was that, there was that scrapyard wars when I was literally texting
while driving in scrapyard wars and I'm not saying that's good and you shouldn't do that.
It was a different time for real and that's not a good excuse.
Like distracted driving is terrible. I'm just saying that like it was, it was, it was interesting to watch how eager people were
to like nail Marquez to the cross for that one.
And I'm not saying what he did was right. And the timing sucked.
I think coming right on the heels of the, I think that's most of it to be honest.
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like a lot of what's gone on with us has been.
Blood in the water. A, has been a significant amount of residual anger that goes all the way back to ad block as piracy.
Yeah, probably. I think that was our first thing where people felt like personally attacked,
even though I never said don't do it. And there's a, there's a certain degree that you get to.
I've had this conversation with a few people. There's a certain degree that you get to when it is encouraged and cheered on by the community
to attack a person or a group of people.
So it ends up being like the safe route.
Like I think, I think I can think of one particular point in time where it was the
safe route to throw at us with everything you could.
Oh yeah, a hundred percent. So like it was anything else would have gotten you like destroyed.
Even if you said nothing. Even if you said nothing. You would have looked like you're evil or something.
So then like, and that, that residuals for a long time.
I think it, I don't think it goes away. Potentially every hour. I'm not, I'm not convinced it goes away.
Okay, so hold on a second. Hold on a second. We've got, we've got suggestions though.
We've got suggestions for a proper scandal. Nice.
Okay, interesting. Linus is actually six foot five.
Lied the whole time. That's good. Nice. That's good. Dracus asks, how were the Diddy parties?
Dude, if you think I am anywhere near cool enough to be invited to a music industry party,
please. Again, Joe Rogan doesn't know who he is.
Remember when we talked recently? I'm not trying to say he's associated to Diddy just before people freak out.
It's already starting. Oh no, that was not my point at all.
Remember when we were talking recently about like celebrities that I've met?
And I couldn't, I couldn't think of any. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like even Seth Curry, the, the like, the lesser Curry, still great.
Still great NBA player. I don't watch, I don't watch basketball, but still my understanding.
I looked at his stats. I creeped the stats and they were good. Still great, but like, I haven't met anybody.
I don't know anybody. I don't. Wait, the lesser Curry? Who's the greater Curry?
Steph. Yeah, they had two kids. They named them Steph and Seth.
Wow. Yeah. Good thinking. I don't watch, I don't watch, I thought they were the same person.
No, not even. Okay. Yeah, not even.
Oh yeah, I met Deadmau5. I mean, Joel's kind of niche, famous too though.
I think so. Like he's like, if you're into EDM. Now I think so.
And you don't know who Deadmau5 is. You're like, like a cultural moron basically.
But if you're not into EDM and you don't know who Deadmau5 is, like yeah.
Like he had like one song on the radio.
Like, let's be real.
And I think in our age bracket and- Pretty much everybody knew I think.
Pretty much everybody knew. But outside of that, please. Yeah, that's probably true.
Yeah, come on. Yeah. And Joel's super cool.
Nothing against him or anything. But when you talk like famous, famous, I mean, I did meet Paris Hilton.
Okay. I was in the same room. Did you meet her? Were you in the same room?
I complained about her. Did you meet her? Were you complaining about her in the same room?
She uploaded that Christmas video of her naked.
So I would say that I would say that I've actually seen more of her
than most people in my life.
That is not, that is a, wow.
That is a very positively parasocial thing for everyone that enjoys OnlyFans, I think.
All the OnlyFans enjoyers are like-
Yeah, I know them. I've seen a lot of them. She's disrupting the market.
If Jerrogan did know who you were and invited you, would you go on?
I think I would probably leave it to the management team.
So I think it would be fine. I'd probably, well, then you'd feel free to cast your vote.
But I don't think I'd weigh in on that. I think that's, I think that's something I'd let the team decide.
Because that way I get plausible deniability. I can just be like, yeah, the executive team sent me here.
I just work here. Because I really, I honestly don't-
That is fairly true. I don't really have an opinion. I've seen clips, like I said, I've come across the odd clip.
I've never actually like sat through an entire podcast, but I've seen clips here and there that make it look like a very, very stupid thing.
But I've also seen clips that seem to have intelligent people
and some semblance of like a coherent intellectual conversation.
So I don't really know what to make of it. Yeah.
I don't know. I just think things like that, like,
yeah, if you keep your head about you, like whatever. I don't know. It's just talking.
Man, we discovered Linus pays people to play games for him.
That could be, that could be something. Nah, there's- To play games for him?
You guys got nothing. You guys got nothing.
Badminton Center is a drug front? Oh, that's not bad. That's pretty good.
Yeah. There's, there's, there's shipping bays on the back. Shuttlecock's more like mule penises.
Like mules, like for drugs. Yeah. I don't know.
Okay. All right. Yeah. And they're big, so lots of drugs, big mule penises, drugs.
I don't know. Like aphrodisiacs or something. I don't know the lingo, okay.
I think it's panda.
Oh man. What else we got here? Shuttlecocks.
You could have a cock fighting ring. Oh man. Even in the flow plane, it's amazing how many people like actually believe
some of the stuff that is just like not true at all.
Someone said someone committed suicide because of you. That's not true at all.
That is not true. That is absolutely false. I have personally verified, but that is absolutely false.
Yeah. And it's just, it's, it's so bizarre the way that someone can say something about you online.
And it becomes. And it becomes canon in some people's heads.
And you can never reach a hundred percent of them. You can never reach a hundred percent of them again.
Luke is actually allergic to chicken and rice. Oh, that would throw off my whole worldview.
What does it mean?
Maybe his allergy is that it engorges certain parts of his body.
Oh no. Which would actually work out great.
Given what he cooks his famous chicken for.
For his 100% success chicken rate.
That could be, that could be quite convenient. Winner winner chicken dinner indeed.
I love that your mom watches the show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very good.
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What are we supposed to be doing, Dan?
Sure. I like this one. 2024 was a year.
Yes, it was. What were your favorite moments?
We asked the writers, what were your favorite videos that you worked on this year?
Oh, this is fun. Okay, Luke, do you mind clicking them so that I can like switch
over to your laptop or something like that?
First up is David with his console tier list.
Perhaps the most high-effort tier list video ever made,
says David, the Cleopatra of the tier list format.
Can you tell the guy writes for a living?
David says, I loved making this video because it fell
outside of our comfort zone. I especially liked the challenge of coming up with visuals
for the longer storytelling bits like the paper puppet show
during the Sony intro or the CRT-A role during the SEGA bit.
Only video game donkey has a more popular console tier list.
I am very proud of how this one turned out. Yeah, this one has been a slow burn.
Out of the gate, it actually did not perform very well for us,
but over time, it has it. Oh, it's it's cranking.
Very clickable. Yeah, it's doing great. And you can ever green. You can see that like to view ratio, very solid,
very solid. The team outdid themselves on this one.
It was an extremely high effort video and it's long,
like putting together a high effort edit like this for a 10 minute video.
That's that's a lot of work. Putting it together for a 30 minute video and it never,
it never slows down. Like the the the the quality of this video is just outstanding.
They did a really good job. I think it's pretty interesting that the highest replay spike
is not the final tier list. I think it's because everyone just like
Final tier list is a high spike, but not the highest.
I think everyone just kind of knows like it's PlayStation.
Yeah. And there was some really like interesting stuff like this this bit.
Even though a lot of people know the the history there.
David did a great job of providing a really excellent and fast summary of it.
Yeah, for sure. All right, next up we've got Adam.
I built the world's biggest gaming TV. I can't believe Linus took this down to build a stupid badminton center.
We were there till like 1 a.m. And it was worth every minute.
You got that one up yet? Yeah. This was legitimately an unforgettable experience.
Unforgettable. Dan was there.
Dan wasn't even working. No one told me I would have been there.
Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. Yeah, they called me like four hours late.
I think I arrived at like 11 p.m. Scared. Absolutely worth it.
It's hard to even get a sense of the scale of it.
Like it's it's enormous. Bonkers.
So cool though. And like even just watching Dan play Flight Sim on it.
He played Flight Sim. Yeah, I mean I said at the time it felt more immersive to me than VR.
Just because of like. Oh unlimited FOV.
Yeah. Look, there I am.
Oh yeah, you were driving the car. The car was bigger than a real car.
Like you can see the couch. Yeah, wow.
Like dude, so cool.
That's nuts. Those walls are. Wow, I think that's the Flight Sim part.
35 feet tall, I think. 32. 32.
Yeah. Yeah. And like the fact that we lucked out and it was actually slightly over 2000 inches.
Dance. So we got to meme on Frank's 2000 inch TV.
Yeah. Like oh. Oh, I loved it. Man, this is this is amazing because.
I didn't even remember either of those.
Yeah. Our writing team and our editors work on a lot of videos.
Yeah. I work on. Okay. How many writers we got?
One, two, three, four, five, six.
I'm going to also count myself seven because I do write videos from time to time.
So I literally work on six to seven times as many videos as them.
So there are things that I just. And all the streams. Blank on.
I didn't remember that either of those were this year. We do.
Those were this year. Yeah. It feels like they were longer ago. Dude, we do cool stuff.
Oh yeah. We like actually. Very awesome. Cool stuff. Crying out loud.
Ploof says his favorite. No way.
No way is working on it. This one.
Got it. Oh, wrong one.
I have two weeks to file a dispute for this scam TV.
Okay. It is the hardest that I think I have ever seen Ploof laugh in the years that we have
been working together. So you got to skip forward. It's probably going to be a view spike forward, forward, way forward.
Look for the big one at the end. This is probably it. That's got to be it.
So there's a point here where he realizes.
Wait for it. That's inside the glass, by the way. Yeah.
He realizes.
That the only person he knows.
Who's stupid enough to get ripped off by this thing is sitting right next to him.
Have you ever seen a man so happy?
Oh man. Oh dude. No acting could ever be that pure and that genuine.
The the mirth, the mirth that this man felt.
So he says, he says, just like Jake Tyvey, I enjoy wasting Linus's money.
Also, apparently, once the refund was finally going to happen, support goes to us.
Did we not get a refund?
You know, we've had to dial back the like references to like wasting my money and
stuff in videos because people get so hung up on it. They're like, oh Linus, flexing his money again.
Or like, it's not even his money. It's the company's money. It's just like, like people get so mad about it.
What they don't understand is, I don't write that into the videos.
The team writes that into the videos. They think it's funny.
I'm like, what do you want? And so I have to sit there and tell them, yeah, this thing that you enjoy and you think is like
genuinely funny to me, because people will get upset on behalf of the team.
They'll be like, yeah, Linus flexing his money in front of his team that can't afford this
crap in Chinese TV or whatever. But they're the ones who love it.
Oh man.
All right. What else we got? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Alex obviously was going to pick this one.
The mighty car mods collab.
Coincidentally, Ploof's least favorite video.
Ploof says, not my least favorite, but I do wish y'all had like one extra day.
Thanks customs for delaying the engine because it took a while for them to actually get it
driving ready for it. Okay. It was sitting in 105 for like the next couple of weeks.
Oh wow. This is such a great moment for the engine. That was pretty cool.
It's so awesome having them all in the engine bay there. I love it.
I have a response from Ploof here about the TV. Oh, oh, what do you say?
Let's see. Let's see. Wow. Ploof with the game sense to message the producer rather than messaging me.
I think that's a first for WAN Show. No, I messaged Ploof. Oh, all right then.
That's my W. Nice.
We can both take the L's. I don't know. We'll share. I like sharing L's.
Two L's. Yeah, they make a W.
Let's see. AliExpress is offering a partial refund, but not telling me the amount.
I said I either want to return it or get a full refund.
They closed the case. Oh, okay.
Case closed then, I guess. Yeah, let's see.
Visa, they reached out to Visa.
Basically, both TVs are lumped in the same purchase and AliExpress,
they've appealed five times. So. They've appealed the chargeback.
You have, you've purchased two TVs.
No way. I should be able to get my money back. What's the point of chargeback if I can order the wrong thing and they just get to be like,
yeah, it's a Chinese inch. What's a Chinese inch?
Wait, did they say that? Yeah. What? They said, yeah, our inches are different from your inches.
Oh, no, I think the Visa is a separate thing. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
All right. Well, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Ploof says if it makes you feel better, the video did get three to five million views.
What's three to five million? Ploof does have access to this dashboard.
Did he say that or are you, are you saying that? That's what, that's what he said. Oh my God, this is real.
What's up?
Okay, so yes, that's true. But the TV then should be bigger, not smaller.
Oh, right. Yeah. So we, we measured it every possible way.
And also there's multiple Chinese inches and Andy talked us through it.
So, so we, yeah, so we, we, we measured it.
If it was centimeters, it's not right. If it was Chinese inches, it's not right.
And if it was regular inches, it's not right. It's just completely invented.
Like it's, it's nothing to do with anything on any measuring tape.
Anyway, okay.
All right. Let's keep going. Elijah, really?
Huh. Add.
Yeah. If only there was some way to, because you know that we're going to do the next thing,
queue up the, okay, it doesn't matter. The point is his favorite was, why did you make me build this?
This CEO PC build. This was his second time water cooling.
He was apparently super nervous. PS, when are we selling the poster?
The video hit a hundred thousand likes.
Okay. So there's a poster at the end. If you go to Taryn's office.
Yeah. Just anywhere in his office. So that poster.
Um, I think, I think we are going forward with it.
I don't think it's going to be that big. But yeah, you guys did, you did reach a hundred thousand likes.
So there's no real avoiding that at this point.
Pope. He was able to get rid of the chair, which is great.
He still has to use, I think he still has the keyboard.
He sells the computer. And the computer, which is loud and annoying.
Yeah, that's not my problem. So that sounds like, that sounds like a CEO issue.
If it reduces the performance of your CEO. Poster soon, probably in January.
Really? This is from Nick Light. Yeah, I forgot.
Like it's during the work day today. There will be an option to buy the big one.
Yeah. That's why I reached out. No way. The, oh my gosh.
Okay. I responded to this. I didn't realize that it was a segment for WAN Show.
I said, I love all my videos equally. That's like asking me to pick my favorite child.
He actually put a screenshot of that from teams in there.
But I really enjoyed the 3D home theater video, even if no one else cared about it.
It was pretty cool to put together like a true cinema grade passive 3D setup.
The number of people that provided advice to me
on how I could have done it better or cheaper by using active shutter glasses or whatever.
It's like, bro, I followed 3D pretty closely.
I am aware of fucking shutter glasses.
I did it this way because I wanted passive 3D with glass optics.
I have never seen anything as good as the 3D setup that was in my house.
It was awesome. The only thing that I would like to do differently
is I would like to get my hands on a higher quality DLP projector.
I also learned about another type of filter
that could help me make non-DLP projectors,
like make the light polarizable or something as a whole.
I forget what it's called. Anyway, I linked Elijah to some articles in case we were going to do a follow-up,
but the video didn't get any views, so we probably won't. But I'd like to get my hands on some better DLP projectors
with lens shifts so that I could perfectly align the images.
And then, oh man, oh, so cool.
I would totally have that setup. Maybe as part of Whaleland or something.
I also really enjoyed doing the Equinix tour. I always love getting access to places other people don't get to go.
It's one of my favorite perks of this job.
So cool. And then the last one that came off the top of my head
was the motherboard repair video. That was probably the most pure joy and exhilaration
that I have felt filming a video in at least a couple of years.
Just stacking up those Ws.
Although we have one coming... Oh, no, this one came out already.
The one where the wife threw the guy's PC out the window.
Yeah. The three-story balcony when he asked for a divorce.
We got... have you watched it? I've gone through parts of it.
Oh, okay. We got all but one component working.
Yes, I did know that. All but one. Wait, no, I think I did watch the whole thing.
Yeah, that was super awesome. That was very surprised.
I've also got another response here from Nick Light. I'm on vacation.
You Linus, I'm not working.
I'm on vacation. You Linus. There's a blank in there.
No, he said you Linus. I'm not working. You Linus.
What's you like? You Linus. You Linus.
Oh, nice. You Linus.
Nice. God, I hope my button works.
Doesn't for us.
Jordan said I'm on vacation, Adam. Please stop messaging me.
Nice. And then Bell's favorite was you might feel a little pressure.
The Ludwig Swipe Plus bidet ShortCircuit. That was actually a lot of fun.
What? Oh, sorry. Sorry. I just assumed you wouldn't bother clicking it.
Wow. That was the only one that's had an ad.
Like this one didn't have an ad on it. That was awesome. How many views did this get?
We should hire this guy. 850,000 views on a bidet.
Yeah. Absolutely natural talent. I mean, I told him this when he came up here.
I was like, if there's anything. Oh, I think I actually said this on the yard,
but the guy is an S tier personality. Yeah. Like just you could probably put him in front of anything
with anyone doing anything. They do pretty well.
And he would just, he'd like figure out the vibe,
settle in and just perform. Like the guy is just absolutely S tier.
Good what he does.
Okay. Oh, Sammy. Sammy picked a favorite one.
I haven't watched this video.
You haven't watched your own setup doctor.
That's weird. No way. I feel like I would watch mine.
Yeah. He says he has a hard time watching himself. Oh, I'm the same.
I haven't watched mine. What?
Oh, what? Okay.
I was working up the courage to, but. Well, anyway, all right.
Yeah. He said that was his joke answer. And then his real answer was,
this is how we make an LTT video 2024. This was outstanding.
And I didn't even know about it until I watched it.
The team did such an outstanding job of this video
going through the entire process in like a.
This is super cool. I don't know. I don't know how to describe why it's so much better
than the way that we've done it in the past. But I think this might be the best like dislike ratio
on Floatplane. You just ruined it now. No, they won't float.
Plane's not like that. I'm going to do it. What? Damn.
No, Floatplane's not like that. They don't respect that.
Yeah. So yeah, he said it was a video idea he wanted to do for over a year.
And don't Sammy outstanding. Exclus- Are you kidding me right now?
Hold on. I can block mods. You can. Yeah. You can. You can ban them.
Do it. Ban them. Ban them from Floatplane.
Okay. Adam added some other stuff.
Some stats. 844 million views on the channel this year.
172 million hours of watch time.
234 LTT videos, 59 live streams, 34 shorts.
126 Floatplane exclusives including behind the scenes
and exclusive live streams and themed weeks. And themed weeks are sick.
640,000 new subscribers. Oh, we have some most viewed videos.
Can you guess the top three? Okay. Well, I know one of them. I have a theory for one of them,
which I'm very surprised wasn't mentioned at all.
Oh, really? Up above. I know the top one is the...
Hold on. I have a theory of what one it is. Should I write it down?
Yeah, you can write it down. But I know it's one of two.
It's... Oh, shoot. Oh, it's one of three. Oh, shoot.
I think the top viewed video on the channel for this year
is actually the Samsung Folding Displays Short from CES.
That isn't what I thought and that isn't what I wrote down. Interesting.
Oh, we didn't count that apparently. So I think we might have gotten it wrong.
I guess they're only counting VOD. But yeah, I know the top performing other than that
would have been the underwater scooter, but that's another short for the Taiwan PC.
Okay, I wrote down Taiwan PC. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one far and away outperformed everything else this year.
I'm going to sort by views here. I think...
Oh, I don't know. Over 10 million. Is that enough zeros?
I don't even know. Yeah. Yeah, so this short from January of 2024 got almost 13 million views.
Woo. Yeah. This one got a lot, but it's from the previous year.
And then the underwater scooter one, I think did like eight or nine million or something like that.
So hold on. Let's have a look at what Adam's got. So can you guys stop through?
Yeah, I knew that one off the top of my head. As for the next one, man, I don't know.
We actually played this game recently and I had no idea when we did the 16th anniversary stream.
I had no idea what like top performing videos were from the channel. I don't spend nearly as much time in the dashboard
now that it sucks so much.
Yeah. So you had the other three. I knew Taiwan PC was going to smash other than that.
Crap. I feel like the iPhone video is going to be up there somewhere.
No. No, it's like good.
I think it's got like 3 million, 2.9 million or something like that. The next segment is commented.
I bet you it's up there for that one.
Most views though. Because the giant TV was last year, right?
Was it? I think the giant TV was last year.
Oh, you don't mean like the projector set up at the BAMT Center?
No. Because that one, I just saw that. That one had almost like four million views, I think.
Okay, I give up. I don't know. Oh, wait, what?
Oh, that's such a hack. What? The second one totally is the TV hint wasn't published this year.
So I put it, oh, it's the ones that got the most views this year.
Okay, I'm giving myself some credit for that one.
Because I only excluded it because I thought it was ones that were published this year.
Yeah, fair enough. Okay, I don't know what the third one is. I don't know what the third one is.
No way. This?
This one like bombed out of the gate. 5.3 million.
5.3. Yeah, this one did not do well. Hold on, I'm not logged into the right account here, but let's go find it.
I'll show you guys. It was supposed to be like a sequel to a top performer.
Because this is the EVGA classified. Oh, that timeline.
Wow. Yeah, so like, dude, this started at the low end of typical.
And then just reached escape velocity and then just has not slowed down.
15,000 views today, like just casually racking them up.
30,000 views last 48 hours for a video that old is crazy.
It doesn't happen that much anymore. It used to be how our entire channel growth was architected.
That's what we talked about. Yeah, was just you make evergreen content and it just like gets views forever.
But only a few of them, only a few of them break out like that.
Yeah. All right. What was our bonus fourth?
They left this in my driveway. The Cleveland's Scorpion Gaming Chair.
Yeah. Yeah, there you go. That's such a great. I forgot those this year.
And the fact that that title is not clickbait.
Like that's actually what happened. We ordered the thing and they just dumped it like in the driveway.
It was 11 months. We didn't even sign for it. Like they just left it there.
I'm like, really? That seems a little silly.
Absolutely wild. Okay.
Most commented video with 13,000 comments. That's got to be the iPhone video.
There's no way. Oh, no, it was the $5,000 PC in the Taiwanese tech mall.
And then the next one was April Fool's that that checks out. Oh, none of them are the iPhone video.
Is the last one the iPhone? The last one was the iPhone video. 10,800 comments on I really tried Apple iPhone 30 Day Challenge.
I'm still using it, by the way, but only because I'm lazy.
And migrating WhatsApp off of iPhone. I've heard is even worse than migrating WhatsApp onto the iPhone.
So I'm really not looking forward to that because I used to lose my chat history
all the time. And that's one of the reasons that I stuck with the Note 9 for so long.
Honestly, I don't know why people keep using WhatsApp, to be honest.
I mean, I've never understood how it's survived.
It's fine. But like the so is everything else.
Everything's fine. It's where my chat history is.
Are you keep losing it? No, no, I haven't lost it in like six years.
Oh, OK. Yeah, I used to lose my chat history all the time.
Like I didn't even I didn't even realize with because like text message,
migration would be really sloppy unless you like went and did it at the store or with like the proper app or whatever.
So I'm not saying a lot of people don't still use it. Tons of people still use it.
I just don't understand. And then like losing my WeChat history was super inconvenient at one point.
I don't know if you recall that. Yes. But I had a lot of people accuse me of impropriety because I didn't have
WeChat receipts for something. And like I didn't even realize it didn't cloud backup.
I don't know. And like China not have the cloud. OK.
I thought they keep everything. Somebody has it.
Can you give it back to me, please?
At least a copy. And then yeah, WhatsApp, the migration just like kind of like kind of sucks.
Like you can at least use it across multiple devices now. Which is a big upgrade.
This is what I mean. Yeah. I know. I know. I get it. I don't. I don't understand.
I get it. It's just it's been it's been pretty sticky because almost everyone I know uses either
that or Facebook Messenger. And Facebook Messenger is is like the predominant one for like organizing group events.
And then WhatsApp is the big one for like group chats.
Yeah. What? When is your heart out? Is it 17 minutes from now?
No. Yeah. Oh, six. Yeah, we got time.
OK, sweet. As for our best like ratios at the power color factory tour at 99.08 percent.
No surprise. Honestly, no surprise. That was a cool video. That was a wicked video. That was an awesome video.
Oh, it's tied though. Tied with hello old friend media ripping explained.
That was a thick video. Yeah. Like it was dense.
Yeah. Um, very like information heavy.
How did that end up performing? That's what I'm checking. Yeah.
Hello, old friend. Here we are. Let me bring up the dashboard.
Yeah. This see this is this is more typical these days where even something that performs really well.
Flat lines. Flat lines. High, but.
Yeah. But it's because it got there. Started high. Yeah. August it had 1.54 million.
Like for contrast, what's it? And yeah, last 48, 22, 30.
Yeah. So basically dead. So this kind of like how to rip media or whatever and from it,
the only reason this shot up like this is because it had a really good title and thumbnail.
And then that's it. It's like they're not going to keep they're not going to keep serving this.
Bummer. YouTube's YouTube's just different now.
And you have to adapt to the meta or you die knowing that a lot of evergreen just dies
and knowing that the audience is actually surprisingly cyclical.
Would you consider remaking old videos? Because I know that was a thing that you were hardline on no in the past.
Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. At this point. Yeah. It seems like it makes sense now.
Especially because like there's new information that hadn't come out or we didn't know or has changed.
Yeah. Or you can just do a better job potentially. Yeah. Like a lot of them, especially from like the really early days.
How to water cool a PC. The last guide you'll ever need in 4K.
Yeah. Sure. You know, or whatever. Yeah. Like we could, I think we could even go back to some of the old like
NCIX tech tips. The green. Like there are videos that I literally haven't made because I'm like, oh no, we did that on NCIX.
Yeah, hold on. Nix. Here we go.
Ultimate water cooling guide. Yes. 13 years ago.
Buddy. Maybe do this for a while. I know, right?
This was pretty early Luke shot. Yeah. Luke tried to figure out water cooling, but turns out he lied on his resume.
So he didn't want to do anything.
That was one of the fun moments when he left me to water cool two GPUs and just left the room.
But I've never water cooled it anything before. I've done no water cooling before and I had to take the years off two GPUs.
That was terrifying. Yeah. Well, he didn't do it.
I ended up having to do it. No, I didn't. No, I came back and I think you weren't done yet.
I think I had to at least help. Yeah, that's probably. I was like, you've been here for so long.
What's taking so long? That wasn't entirely true. We talked about this a few times because you didn't actually give me very much time.
There were other parts you didn't have enough time for. You definitely had enough time when I wanted those heatsink stripped off.
Okay, that's probably fair. The last one at 99.06% was the sensible tech upgrade.
That was Sebastian's. Dude, his place is so styling.
That was a really good video. Yeah. Honestly, the tech upgrades in general are just pretty awesome.
All right, I love the tech upgrade series. 2.1 million, wow.
That's not even that old. Yeah, they're just reliable.
They're just reliable. Our team is so cool that all you have to really do is hang out with one for a bit
and then people love them and. His place is so interesting.
All his little projects are so interesting. Not even little. All his incredibly professional projects.
That's a lot of. And the team puts so much work into stuff these days, like those little extras,
like the amount of work that went into just having an entire,
like a couple of master cartons of screwdrivers on the island there.
It's extra, I think is the term for it.
Discussion question, how'd you feel about 2024? What did you achieve?
Any surprises, disappointments? It was a tough year.
2024 was a really tough year. We were coming off of some allegations that after the investigation was completed,
we released our statement that said the investigation found that the allegations
were unfounded and unfair.
So going through all of that, when the allegations were, according again to the
investigation, unfounded and unfair was extremely challenging for me personally
and for us as a company.
I think that. Wait on a lot of people pretty heavily. Yeah, for sure, for sure.
And there was a lot of stuff that.
There's a lot of stuff that people didn't see behind the scenes that made it really hard.
What we achieved, I think is we got our groove back.
We're back to kind of killing it. It's always cyclical.
Like I think we talked in that recent All Hands about how we're like back to before
viewership and it's a little down this month. But it do be like that though.
I think there's going to be a lot of people upgrading when 50 series comes out.
I think there's going to be a lot of buzz around that. So there'll be some upswing there and then it'll be down again.
It'll be up and you know, whatever, right?
Yeah, just like six donor says, I'll admit I stopped watching for a while.
I couldn't stand having another person I like turn out to be a monster.
I was glad it wasn't true. Yeah, no, there was a there was a big.
Quite a bit of that. There was a big. Yeah, there was a big group of people that just stopped watching and there's a significant group
that, you know, if their comments are to be believed, have never come back.
And that's sad. That's really sad. And it's still sad for me.
I think it's true. Yeah, because there's also like that stuff went so far and wide.
Well, you'll never be able to reach all of those people again.
Yeah, yeah, really tough.
As for as for what's welcome to the next quarter of a century.
Oh my goodness. Yeah. Did you know Star Wars 1977 was released closer to the year 2000 than any video we made this year?
I'm just going to close that topic. Why don't we move on?
Yes. Yes, let's do that. There's a fake Nintendo lawyer sending out DMCA takedowns.
A few months ago, YouTuber Dominic Domtendo-Newmire received DMCA takedowns on his Legend of Zelda
Echoes of Wisdom Let's Play videos. However, after some back and forth with the Tetsumi Masaki proton mail.com account.
Domtendo reached out to Nintendo itself who responded that the e-mailer was not using a
legitimate Nintendo e-mail address. Well, yeah. A few weeks later, the YouTuber received a follow up from that same e-mail with a short message.
I hereby retract all of my preceding claims. Although the threatening e-mail would start to come from a spoofed anti-piracy3 at nintendo.co.jp
e-mail. Rumors of fake takedowns from Big Red last circled when Gary's mod removed all Nintendo-related
fan content after receiving DMCA's originating from suspicious looking e-mails.
The developer claims to have verified the source though. Nintendo and partners have also been accused of using AI tools to issue mass takedowns.
That was just a quick, a quick topic. I want to talk about this one.
This is called My Experience as a Winner. Turned into Disqualification by NVIDIA.
This was actually flagged for me before the show, like just a just a little while before
the show. It was posted six hours ago on the forum. But this poster in our community said they were officially declared a winner.
And their project was publicly listed on NVIDIA platforms. They were supposed to win.
Oh, winner, yeah, winner of what? I think it was, yeah, here we go.
And NVIDIA RTX 6000 added generation graphics card.
So like a really valuable GPU. And then after declaring them a winner and sending them through a bunch of hoops,
they apparently were disqualified for reasons that
NVIDIA has not apparently been able to properly explain.
So they've just asked us to highlight this because I hope I'd like to assume,
you know, incompetence where Malice has not yet been proven, where hopefully by
getting some visibility on this, we can at least get them a satisfactory answer.
So what they're asking for is if anyone from NVIDIA reads this, I respectfully ask for my
project to be reviewed by a team of qualified technical experts.
My only goal is to ensure fairness and transparency.
Thank you all for taking the time to read this. I appreciate any help that you can provide.
So they provided a link to their project, to their GitHub repo.
So that's on there. Just wanted to make sure that we kind of highlighted that.
We like to make sure that we're taking care of our community members.
And this seemed like seems like there's got to be something going on here.
They should at least get an explanation.
Oh, no.
Do you want to do the AI stuff?
Oh, no, I didn't even know this. By a vote of four to three, the Arizona State Board for charter schools approved an
application to open a fully online school, which will serve grades four to eight.
That doesn't automatically sound all that bad.
Unbound Academy hopes to use AI to condense academic instruction into a two-hour window,
which now sounds really bad, to free up time for life skill workshops covering
financial literacy, public speaking, goal setting, entrepreneurship, critical thinking,
and creative problem solving, which sounds great, except in theory,
uh, quote, as students work through lessons on subjects like math, reading, and science,
the AI system will analyze their responses, time spent on tasks, and even emotional cues
to optimize the difficulty and presentation of content.
That sounds ambitious. Wow. Good luck with that.
Wow. That sounds like, um, that sounds like a, like a Stanley parables style, like video game level of
issue when it would be applied to the workplace. And this feels like, to me, some amount of desensitization before it gets applied to the
workplace, but we'll see. Unbound Academy has been trialing this two-hour learning method in Texas, seemingly in person,
and has applications to open other schools in Arkansas and Utah.
Experts have questioned the effectiveness of personalized education programs and have called
it Orwellian, an Orwellian misnomer for replacing teachers with digital services and data mining
software. Yeah. Much of the criticism stems from the lack of clarity behind the term.
Yep. Personalized learning is perhaps like personalized ads, i.e. data collection, a form of double
speak, says Adam, and I strongly agree.
Discussion question. Do you think kids need that real connection with teachers in order to do well?
I'm going to stop you right there. Yeah. Not necessarily. Oh, I do.
But what they definitely need is a real connection with other students.
Oh, yeah. A hundred percent. And in theory, this is freeing up time for life skill workshops covering financial literacy,
public speaking, goal setting, entrepreneurship, critical thinking, and creative problem solving.
In practice, homeschooling is an extremely poorly regulated area.
I strongly recommend watching the John Oliver segment on it.
Oh, cool. Yeah. And I'm not saying that you have to agree with John Oliver on everything, but what I will say is that
as far as background research goes, they do a pretty darn good job.
This just feels like homeschooling with extra steps.
To me, it feels like if you're going to have a problem kid, it's just going to be exacerbated
so much, because without someone there being able to do something about it, I don't know,
what if they just frown at the AI camera for like five minutes?
What does it do?
Nothing? Nothing. Does it make the tasks easier because it detects kid is upset?
I don't know. Assuming that every single kid is just going to do this perfectly, it seems.
But I mean, assuming every kid is going to do traditional school perfectly, you know,
it's not right either. Isn't that the whole reason why the teachers are there?
Yes. A big part of it. But I mean, not every teacher is great. I mean, I definitely agree.
One of my most frustrating experiences. Every person had at least one bad teacher.
Yeah. One of my most frustrating experiences being in school was knowing from having parents who were
teachers and from having my teachers who were teachers and seeing a little bit of the inside
baseball knowing that competency was not necessarily the most important attribute for
keeping your job and getting promotions and raises.
Seniority. Politics. And that's not how things should be done, right?
Anyway, yeah, good luck, Arizona.
I am deeply worried about education.
Top Gear said, no, there will be a baseline and it will be monitored. It won't be so easy.
They graduate below level. Yeah, but you can't fail kids anymore.
That's a whole thing. So like actually it totally could be.
I don't know. I don't have a great answer and I'm not in that field.
I don't have a kid, but education doesn't feel like it's going in a fantastic direction.
The node. It feels bad for the kids. The node child left behind paradigm feels like
it feels sort of like a good idea or a warm idea that in practice, I just don't really
understand why we're still giving it any credence.
Conrad says, my mom is a teacher and says the upcoming generation is not okay.
And I don't think it's their fault to be super clear at all.
I think the current powers it be are setting them up for failure.
I don't think it's the kids.
Yeah, anyways.
Yeah. Inventor2boy5 says, yeah, that's what my sister's telling me too.
She's a teacher too. They are super uninterested in learning.
Yeah, I'm reminded of that famous misattributed quote
that is not actually from Peanuts and Linus didn't actually say this in the strip, but
so good. That's pretty good.
Yeah. It's stuck with me though. I mean, it feels like that, right?
Yeah, actual attribution, Asada Shakur.
AI outlines new for-profit corporate structure.
Nice. They've outlined a plan to change their corporate structure by transforming its
for-profit ARM into a public benefit corporation,
a company structured to balance the interests of society with shareholder value,
which should make securing investors easier. They recently completed a $6.6 billion funding round, $4 billion from Amazon alone,
and currently have a $157 billion valuation.
The proposed change comes after Elon Musk dropped a lawsuit claiming a for-profit
structure would be illegal. Musk and Sam Altman worked together nine years ago to launch open AI as a non-profit
with the mission statement to develop generative AI for the benefit of society.
Musk left in 2018 after seeming frustrations over the company taking billions in funding from
Microsoft. Also, failing to gain a majority stake in the company for himself might have had something
to do with it. Yeah. Yeah, there's been the whole thing with the-
Might have suddenly made that okay. You know, everything. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Anywho, that's it for our topics. Oh, Dan left.
Cool. Well, we're going to switch to After Dark when Dan comes back. In the meantime-
I could breed some off if you want. Oh, what happened to the-
Oh, I have another GoFundMe that unlike the one we talked about earlier is not a downer.
And, oh, hey, look at that. Passes cool. Let's go.
Wait, did we- Oh, okay, well, I mean, you know what, that's cool.
Some anonymous person yesterday donated $1,000.
Reboot Rewind has a GoFundMe. You guys can feel free to resurrect this iconic animated show from my childhood.
It was actually the first fully computer-animated TV show.
Here's some footage. Yep, pretty awesome. You guys can check that out.
There.
I did not end up stalling for very long. No, I don't want me to read some off.
Oh, yeah, we could do that or we could wait for Dan. They'll wait.
Okay. Oh, we don't actually have a lot of time to kill, though. That's what I'm-
Yeah, I kind of have to- I have to leave at some point. Okay. There aren't a ton of them either, though.
Oh, has Dan been filtering a lot of them? There's only 10.
Oh, okay. They, apparently, people just don't care about leaving merge messages.
Yeah, because there was- Bought a lot of backpacks. I think he also was maybe pretty aggressive with the curating,
because there was a decent amount of merge messages.
Okay, I'll let you guys know how many discount codes are left.
Uh, we are down to- Oh, mental math is hard.
We're down to about 3,500. So we have a couple videos that are queued to go up this weekend
that have call-outs for the commuter bag. It's after dark time, Dan.
And I'm a little worried that we might have to YouTube editor,
like, cut out the part referring to the discount code.
We'll see how it goes. It burns so many of them. Yeah.
After dark code ready? Yeah. Let's do it.
I must have missed a topic change. No, you're good, Dan.
Don't even trip, dog. I'm tripping.
Look at that. Now it's dark. So good.
Dude, I-
I have been an absolute lump for the last two days.
I don't remember the last time I did less.
I didn't even respond to social messages. Like, Luke messaged me over the holiday.
Actually, with some stuff that probably merited paying attention to.
I was a little surprised you didn't respond. I was like, okay, I mean, it's fine.
He's probably busy. So initially, I just had a lot of family stuff going on
up until the 25th, or until the 25th.
And I think I've updated you on, like,
my family being a little complicated right now. So that was a little-
I assumed there was stuff going on. That was a little complicated. I wasn't bothered by it.
And then, on the 25th and the 26th,
I went and played badminton with my in-laws and my son.
And other than that, did literally actually nothing.
And then yesterday, I went and played some badminton
in the evening because I looked at my step counter
and I had, like, 400 steps. I did actually nothing.
So you probably saw me on Steam, like, all day yesterday.
Yesterday was my family's Christmas. Got it. So if you'd been on your computer,
you would have seen me on Steam doing absolutely nothing.
I am substantially ahead of you in Final Fantasy VI.
And I only played yesterday and a little bit in the evening
the day before. You know, it shouldn't be an always thing, but it's not a bad idea to slow down everyone's normal.
I don't remember the last time that I've done it.
And you know what? It was kind of glorious. But at the end of the day yesterday, I was like,
really, brother? Okay. Tell me back on the horse. So I dragged my butt to Smash.
I played for a couple hours, and then I jumped on the Stairmaster for 10 minutes.
I found out my step rate, by the way. The speed that I'm doing is 133 steps per minute.
So it says 350 watts on the thing.
So I only did 10 minutes. No, but I think that's really good.
I only did 10 minutes of that yesterday. But what I've been doing before,
when I told you that I would cycle between the machines, is I've been trying to do half an hour.
And so I've been doing, for rowing,
two minutes for every 500 meters is about the pace that I target.
And then for the Stairmaster, I've been doing that.
So I've been doing 133 steps per minute. And then for the bike, I've been targeting about 140 watts.
So that's my half an hour continuous that I've been trying to do.
I've fallen off the wagon a little bit over the last couple of days, as I already told you.
But when those badminton players come out here for the collab,
I want to be at the point where I can comfortably do
half an hour of continuous crazy cardio.
We both read that at the same time.
I want to be able to do 15 minutes continuous on the Stairmaster at that speed.
And I didn't expect that from Rod. And then I want to bookend it with the bike and the rower.
Nice. So I'm thinking I'll go, oh man, what will I do?
Yeah, because the bike is really tough on the thighs too. I might have to find like a third cardio machine
that's not just pure legs. Oh, isn't there an elliptical there?
Oh yeah, that's true. Elliptical is your most well-rounded whole body one
that you have. Okay, yeah, maybe I'll do elliptical then.
So I could do... But you've got to actually operate the handles.
Yeah, well I'm going to need to because my legs will be dead. So maybe I could do the elliptical last.
So I could row and then jump on the Stairmaster
and then do the elliptical for the last five minutes.
Pull it into your... Yeah, I know. I did try out for the rowing team.
Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah, that's as far as I got.
They did invite me. They did invite me to be the coxswain.
Yeah, yeah, and loud.
Yeah, oh yeah. Piercing boys. Yeah, that makes sense.
All right, hit me, Dan. Hi. What big house upgrades or projects do you have in the works?
I struggle with permanent modifications. For example, throwing holes in the walls.
So I love watching home upgrades. Okay, okay.
I am going to do this. I want to build like an epic cat wall.
Like with all the like things and the things and the ropes
and the things that can climb and stuff. I want the entire upstairs hallway essentially.
Oh, sick. To be just like cat jungle. Jungle gym. Jungle gym, not jungle.
Nice. Yeah, and I would honestly, I would...
We can never close doors in our house. So I would honestly love to work out some kind of like tunnel
system so they can get in and out of rooms. The problem is that...
So that then you could close doors? Yeah. For my room, I do have sound isolation requirements.
You know, and so... That's good, really.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what I was kind of thinking is maybe what we could do...
You could just get like a plug. Because the cats whine if we close our door.
But if we had just a hole, then there would always be sound leakage,
which is not better. So what I'm kind of thinking is maybe I could...
Maybe I could make like a cat thing and then they could go into like a tunnel
that takes them up through the attic to somewhere else on the cat thing so they could get in and out of our room all the time.
But we could just close our door. So or something like that so that there wouldn't be a clear path
You could make like a baffles basically that they have to like walk through.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I think something like that would be cool.
Don't worry, they're not going to go up in the attic and close it.
Obviously. Come on, guys. Give me some credit here. Give me some credit here.
Other than that, like, I don't know, fixing the roof solar.
Oh, the light switches, oh man. Because we've actually had like two days off,
Yvonne's been learning to crochet. Because like her husband's busy playing video games, I guess.
Time to time to go full old lady.
And she's been like reaming me about our horrible light switches
because I need in a valley to hurry up and get me those millimeter wave switches.
Yeah, I think those are the big ones. They are pretty horrible. Yeah, they are pretty horrible.
Did you just turn off all the time?
Next up. Sure. Clap to K24 Accord says, I'm an insulator.
I always find it hilarious when parents soundproof their bedrooms.
It's a very common option.
Yeah, I mean, that's considerate. It's a good thing. It's considerate.
Yeah, why not? It's considerate. Healthy bedrooms.
No soundproofed. The kids don't have to hear all the fighting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, there you go. My family friendly.
Well, maybe so much worse. Actually worse.
So much worse. Literally worse.
Linus, look at Dan. How do the three of you individually maintain the desire and effort levels
to keep working on your hobbies? How do you keep pushing yourselves to be better at your jobs?
Well, you guys pushed me to be better at my job.
So, so there's that. I mean, I think we also push ourselves a lot.
As for maintaining effort levels for my hobbies,
do I? Badminton. Badminton, I do. I do.
I'm highly motivated to be better at it.
It's the motivation for me is that it counts as exercise.
So I don't feel like I'm wasting time when I'm playing badminton,
unless I sign up for a session that's like tournaments feel like a waste of time.
Those are an indulgence. If I play a tournament, I know that I'm playing like 20% of the time
and I could have easily done a lot of other stuff in that time.
But no, that's the easy justification. You see tournaments as like a benchmark, though?
Absolutely. Check where you're at. Yeah. Oh, dude, we actually, my team, instead of coming eighth,
like last year, we came ninth this year. But I actually, I don't mind that result.
It doesn't actually feel like a downgrade, especially for me personally, because the only reason we're ninth
is because our first match at 9 a.m. on the first day
was the one that determined that we would have no shot at the top eight.
Oh. Because the way the seeding worked, we were seeded two within our group of four
for Round Robin and we played number three and it was close.
Their team won three games, ours won two, but two of the ones we lost went to Deuce,
which is, and one of the ones went to Deuce in the third set.
So basically, that means that's where you're tied at the end and you have to win by two.
Yeah. So it was really close.
And then once that was over, that very first match,
the next one was basically a walkover. We played the fourth seed and they tried hard and whatever,
but there was a different class of team. And then our last one in our Round Robin was a walkover for the other team.
They were the top seed and I think they went on to win.
So basically, the team that we lost barely to, they weren't even eighth.
They were higher than eighth. But because we lost two in our Round Robin stage,
the best we could do was that and then the following day, we won all the way through.
So we came in ninth. So I don't even feel that bad about it. And in that first one, I won my game.
I played Men's Doubles and I played against the person that I lost to in my final game
the previous year, which was what put us in eighth instead of seventh.
Then I won. Cool. Yeah, there's that. Personally, I felt like it was a pretty big upgrade.
I played really well. The only games I lost were the one that was against the team that won.
And one of the kids that was on the other team literally plays at like a national level, like currently.
I'm like, okay, whatever. I got a few points. I feel good about that.
And then the other one I lost, I retired from.
My team had already won. So we were just playing for fun and I hurt my back.
And that was like in a lot of pain for a week or two.
Like that was when I was telling you I couldn't sneeze. Like sneezing was like incapacitating.
I like pulled something. I also got tennis. So I shouldn't have played that last for fun game.
It was really close up until I was like, guys, I'm done.
Was your ankle like a little bit messed up still at that time? Yeah, I had to wear a brace.
But it didn't bother me during the tournament. Okay. But no, I was like.
Three different parts of your body. Very injured.
Not awesome. Yeah. And yeah. Oh man.
And to be clear, I'm not going to make any excuses. They won.
You know, when you retire from the match, they won. I'm just saying any match I completed or was not playing
someone who, you know, it literally is like almost semi-pro.
Right. I performed really well. So I was really happy with that.
Yeah, nice. Yeah. Pains of getting old, dude. I hear that a hundred percent, a hundred percent.
Hey, DLO. We never got Luke's answer. Oh, we didn't. What was the question?
Staying motivated for your hobbies. Oh, progressive overload, incremental progression.
I am addicted to those two concepts.
That's pretty much it. Yeah. Getting old is going to be hard.
Oh yeah. I've had this like crisis moment many times where I'm like,
the thing that drives me on like everything is getting
marginally better all the time. And when that inverts, oh no.
I don't know what's going to happen to my brain. Well, you'll have a midlife crisis.
I'm not well set up for this. Like I have self-reflected.
That's why they call it midlife crisis. It's not midlife happy fun time.
Yeah, fair enough. I've been thinking like I'm going to have to.
You could buy a Porsche.
I think I'm going to have to try to find like, like reduction of incremental decline as something to aim for.
And go like, okay, looking at the math of like averages of how people tend to decline at this age,
if I can beat that by this amount, that's my goal.
So yeah, maybe I'll be slower or lift lesser,
not be as good or score lower, whatever the metric is.
But if I can have that be by a lower amount
than would be expected. Yeah, just set a new benchmark. Yeah. I think that's going to be the goal.
Benchmark of like sucking less. Yeah, pretty much.
Let's go. I'm headed of aging since 2011.
Pretty much. This has been my like,
I've been planning for this strat for a long time though, because I'm genuinely very concerned about this.
You can be like that weird Brian Johnson guy. Oh, no.
Because you basically just described him. I guess, yeah. Got him.
You're going to take 14,000 pills every day.
Anyways. Yeah. Hey, DLO, I've seen more people losing access
to their steam accounts after being hacked. I'm terrified of losing all my games.
Well, it's the best way to protect yourself in the all digital future.
Don't click on anything. Yeah.
Evidence of ownership have good 2FA setup.
Yeah, if you can contact support and be like, this is clearly me.
Then you might have a better chance. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.
So just take a picture of your driver's license and make that your Steam profile pic.
Sorry, I couldn't even get that out. Don't do that. Don't do that.
But it'd be funny. It would be kind of funny. But yeah, make sure you have 2FA setup.
I don't know if Steam has a log out on all other systems thing, does it?
Do you know? I think so. I think if you log out of Steam, it, I think, yeah, I'm pretty sure it does.
Then my other theory won't. Or no, if you change your password, it'll log out of every system.
Okay, yeah. Someone says SMS is not real 2FA. Yeah, I have the Steam app 2FA.
Yeah. That's been good for a long time. I mean, the Steam app kind of sucks, but.
No, but the fact that they have. Yes, but having it is good.
Yes, yeah. Hello again, parasocial friends.
I make training videos for the trucking industry, truck stops, to mechanics, et cetera.
Do you think a strict structure is needed for these or would a more YouTube style approach?
I guess be beneficial. I caught off. Depends.
If you're really good at it, then a conversational casual YouTube style approach
would be great. If you really need people to, like,
if this is like for certification, you know, like if this is something that needs to be covered
in a, in a dot all the Ts and cross all the Is kind of way.
You might be able to mix it in that case, but you're still going to have to get pretty strict structure.
Yeah. Yeah, I agree. You can, you can like have fun until you get to the,
the, the T crossing and I dotting section, and then you need to be pretty strict for a bit
to make it like very, very clear what the bounds are.
And then you can maybe get back to having fun.
Hey, LLD, what greater benefits would emerging
content creators get in Floatplane compared to Patreon?
Thanks for all y'all do. You could make less money.
Yeah. You might like that. That's. You won't know until you've tried it.
Floatplane is more of a focus on video. I haven't looked into what Patreon's done for a while on video,
but Floatplane really is majorly focused on video
to the point where it's probably not as good of a solution
if you're not a video creator. Yeah. And, and if you're an emerging content creator,
that's why specifically I'm talking to you,
it's not for you. You need to maximize the money that you can get
because you need it to eat and our revenue split
is not going to be conducive to that. Our platform is designed for extremely high quality video
and audio. And so if you are a large creator and say, for example,
you were looking to like white label a platform or something like that, our revenue split
is a lot more competitive.
Like if your alternate is hiring a development team
and building something. Yeah. We're going to look stellar.
Yeah. Whereas if your alternative is like uploading unlisted videos
on YouTube or Vimeo or something and then just like,
I think Patreon has a native one now. I think they have a native one now.
But the point is just like if your alternative is finding
something free and sending an unlisted link to the people who, to the several dozen people who follow you
at zero overhead, then you should do that. You know, it's horses for courses.
Yeah. There's solutions for everybody.
We like Floatplane. A few other people on the platform seemed really like Floatplane.
There's also a lot of benefits to Patreon. The split is generally better, but it also entirely depends.
Like if you, if you, if you set your price to the right price
on Floatplane based on how we do our costing,
you can get a better split than there is on Patreon.
Most people won't do that, but it is possible because we just have, sorry.
No, I had something, something upside down stuck in my throat.
We have our costs are like fixed for creators.
So if you, if you balloon, like if you have a super fancy,
expensive Omega tier, but it doesn't take any extra from us
because we have a limit on our features, obviously, then we don't take more.
So you could theoretically take more, but then you're asking for a lot from your audience at that point.
So most people aren't going to do it. So yeah. Unless you have like fee picks on there or something.
True. We would, we would, I don't think we have anything
against fee picks technically. And we don't really discriminate.
It's not a serious conversation, Luke. We don't have to talk about that. I'm being real, man.
I'm being, you don't know. Maybe, maybe. He's trying to sell this Linus.
Maybe the, maybe the, what would you call the top credit?
The top foot is watching us. What would you call the top creator in the fee picks category?
I tell you, put your foot in your mouth, but the servers probably couldn't handle it.
The big toe says UCL Buffalo.
The big toe! UCL Buffalo in full frame chat.
Just won it. You don't know. Maybe the big toe is watching, man.
We got to, we got to make sure they know that they would be welcome here.
Because we don't, yeah, we don't really, as long as it's legal, we don't really discern against creators.
All right. Let's see. Hello, Dan, Lin and Luke.
What is the average amount of versions of product
go through for product revs and development?
Yeah, you just, you got it. I think the, I think the backpack
was about half a dozen each for the commuter and the original.
We've been told by our suppliers that we go through an obnoxious number of product revs
and it's actually caused some strain on our relationships sometimes
where we'll do half a dozen product revs and just be like, no, it's not good enough.
They don't like to hear that. If you don't go to mass production, essentially they subsidize their sample production
with the assumption that you're going to go to mass production. From my point of view, I'm like, that's stupid then.
Just tell me how much it costs to make a sample and I'll be happy to, but it's not that simple, right?
There's an opportunity cost on their side.
But yeah, I would say somewhere between four and seven
is a boat where we're at on revisions for products.
Some a lot more for something like the screwdriver.
We might go through that many revisions for every part, right?
That many revisions for the ratchet, that many revisions for the mold.
And so the overall number of revisions goes up exponentially,
the more parts there are in a product. But for socks, I think from like 10 or 12
or something like that, I think we're close though. I think we're close.
The blue samples that I've, do I have them on?
I don't. The blue samples I've been wearing recently are really good.
Hello, LDNL. What are your thoughts on containerization?
I talk about my interest in it at work. All my coworkers think it's dumb.
What are some other cool things you guys do with it? Who thinks it's dumb?
Where are your coworkers? Yeah, really. I don't know. Your coworkers that you talk to about this
know what it is and think it's dumb. I don't really understand.
I don't know anyone in the field that thinks it's dumb.
Genuinely, zero people. I've never met a single person. They want the whole system to crash when like monolithic only.
To the point where when I was reading this, I was like, wait, do they mean like physical containers?
Because I've never met a single person. Far be it for me to criticize someone
who sent a $120 merch message.
But are you just like baiting us? Like maybe.
Because I'm not sure if I believe you.
Show this to your coworkers. Yeah.
What are they talking about? Maybe they just don't know what it is properly.
Like maybe it's more of an education problem. Yeah, maybe they use a different term for it or something.
Maybe they think you said a bad word and then, Aner.
What's the matter? Okay, I like it. What's the matter? In full plain chat said,
Prime and Theo both complain about Kubernetes and Docker. Yeah, sure. But the solutions that they like are,
as far as my understanding goes, generally running on systems where the containerization is just detached from them.
It's still happening from the service provider. They just don't have to deal with it themselves.
Because they don't want to do infrastructure. So they just use other services to do it,
which is great and popular. And like, I mean.
Still containerization. We use Vercel for the Labs website.
Vercel is still doing containerization stuff, I'm sure. It's a concept.
That's what I'm like. Yeah, my co-workers think programming is dumb.
And like, yeah, it sucks sometimes. Like, I can totally understand why Prime and Theo might be like,
yeah, this sucks. You shouldn't waste your time doing this. As someone who's just trying to spin up a website,
you should use this service thing. Like, great.
Yeah, you probably shouldn't develop your own personal store in 2025.
Because like Shopify exists, and you should just use that.
That doesn't mean containerization is dumb.
That means that you might not want to be the person
who's interfacing with it, depending on what you're doing.
We use Kubernetes to great effect with Flowplane. That was not the right approach for the Labs website.
Cool. Oh, dude. Nick just messaged me.
We have removed the discount messaging for the commuter bag
from the Sunday and Monday releases. He doesn't think they're going to make it that long.
That's crazy. He says he thinks it's going to be gone tomorrow. All right, we'll see.
Obviously, I hope he's right.
All right, LLD. My work recently banned third and personal monitors citing
security concerns, but always allow personal monitors work
from home two days a week. What do you think? Same computer office and work from home.
Phones are allowed on site. Now, your coworkers are stupid.
I'm assuming this is an IT team currently fighting policy.
You can link them to this video, by the way. You can tell them that Linus says that you made them look stupid.
By laying out, they're horrible, horrible policy.
That actually makes me question whether they are competent enough to run any sort of business at all,
let alone one that uses technology.
Freaking dunked. Actual idiots.
That is not how any of that works.
Banned third and personal monitors. Yeah, so they can't have a third monitor.
And they can't bring monitors from home. And they can't bring a personal monitor. Okay, I can understand not wanting people to bring monitors from home.
But you're allowed to use your personal monitor at home. Yeah, but bringing a personal monitor into the workspace.
I can understand why that might be. It's a liability. It's not to bring a phone. It's a liability, but not a like...
If you're allowed to, like, look, security issue. You leave this at the office.
I don't let people bring their own lenses and tripods and monitors. This is what I'm saying.
But it's not even liability. It's just like, because that's stupid.
If you need something to do your job, then the workplace should provide it.
It's that simple, right? But so it's nothing to do with security concerns.
If you are allowed to have your own personal phone with you,
everything else is out the window. Because that is the easiest vector.
Picture. Like what? I'm going to bring a special secret magic monitor with a raspy embedded in it
so I can use an HDMI RF snooping on the cable signal,
beam it to my spy espionage office across the street.
Obviously. Yeah, because there's obviously workplaces where that shouldn't be allowed,
but they almost certainly also wouldn't allow you to bring phones in.
Yes. So like, yeah.
They said they use the same PC at home, so laptop.
Okay. But they're allowed a personal monitor.
So who cares? At home. Yeah. Yeah.
If you can have a phone, you can have essentially your own computer at work.
They just haven't figured it out yet. Is this like a have your cake and eat it too thing?
What? Like they don't want to buy people extra monitors,
but they also don't want to be like that workplace that you have to bring your own monitor to.
So they're just like, you're not allowed and also no.
Could be. Maybe. Yeah. This could be one of those things where they're just hiding behind security concerns.
So there's no real, I mean, okay, there is real security concerns.
They're just also ignoring all the other bigger, more obvious ones. Yeah. I think that I think that if they're, if they want to be honest,
they should just say no, because if other people see you with a third monitor,
they won't ask you if you brought it from home, and they're going to whine and complain until they get a third monitor.
And that's not in the budget. Everyone gets two monitors and I just don't feel like dealing with it.
That's the more honest answer, probably. Yeah. Almost always there is the reason why you can't have something nice
is because someone else fucked it up. Oh yeah. Almost always.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always so frustrating. Or, or your workplace is a bunch of cheap butt heads.
It's super frustrating when you're on the like administration side of that
and you see it happening and you're like, man, I really wish this person would stop because if they don't stop,
I'm going to have to do something about this. Yeah. But this has worked fine for years and years and years,
because no one's pushed it past this limit. And then you like try to get them to stop and they just won't.
And then you have to kill it for everybody and it just sucks.
I remember having like tough conversations with you about stuff
that we like can't do anymore and you're like, well, that's stupid. Yeah. I'm like, trust me.
I know how stupid it is more than you ever will. Yeah.
Yeah. It's frustrating. There's nothing I can do about it. It's frustrating.
Because like there, you can, you can interact in good faith in a certain way.
But you have to be careful about it because other people might see it
and then interact with that thing in bad faith. And then it gets turned off for everybody.
And it's happened a bunch of times. I can, I know I cannot give you examples for reasons that I hope would be obvious.
Oh, here's a good one. Good comment from Chronified. I'd be willing to bet they're using monitoring software and it has a two-monitor limit.
So for the work from home setup, it's a laptop with only one display out.
That's a good hypothesis. I like it. I like it.
I mean, the fact that you have your phone still is like stupid or whatever.
So it says personal siting, but allows personal monitors work from home two days a week.
They might have a way of doing more than one display.
Okay. I don't know. That is interesting though.
Why are you so popular today? I don't know. He's so popular.
All right. Hey, Dan. Sure. I was just waiting for the interruption to stop.
I would like to game single co-op games from my PC to my living room TV.
There are around 60 feet apart. How would you guys solve this?
Optical HDMI cable and probably a USB over Ethernet adapter.
We showed USB two ones that are cheap, like 10, 15 bucks cheap that can easily do that distance.
That would be the highest fidelity way. The low fidelity, but probably easier way with less wiring would be to just use streaming.
So you have a thin client and just use like steam in home streaming or whatever.
They've rebranded it to steam link or whatever they call it now. What tech were you most sad to see flop or fall out of fashion?
I really wish phones with physical keyboards were still improved and made mainstream.
Hold on. Before we move on, UCR Buffalo says why not HDMI to Ethernet adapters too?
Because by the time you do that, you've added all of the cost and complexity of an optical cable, except you're paying for copper now.
Fiber is actually cheaper by the foot. It's just the media conversion that's expensive.
So if you're going to have media conversion, a lot of the time, unless you need to be able to service it in the field,
like if you're doing live events or something like that, there's no reason to use like HDMI over Ethernet instead of just HDMI over fiber.
Also, a lot of the HDMI over Ethernet stuff is not like 4K 120,
whereas you can get fiber optic HDMI cables that will allow you to do the full HDMI 2.1.
No, not any leg difference that I'm aware of.
It just doesn't make sense in the home.
Okay, sorry. What were you most sad to see flop or fall out of fashion?
I mean, 3D is on my mind. So I'm going to go with that.
I'm going to go with that because I've seen some glasses-free 3D that's really good.
Like we could have gotten there. We just, the content's not there anymore.
This person said physical keyboards on phones. I don't agree with that, but I do agree with physical key inputs practically everywhere else.
There are some good solutions, like I'm assuming the one in your car is right.
It's okay, but actually almost everything else is trash, especially public things.
Public things that are touchscreen just like- I don't like touching them.
No. And occasionally you get ones that have like good rejection,
and I can't use my knuckle on them because I don't want to touch them with my fingy tips.
Like I was a germaphobe before it got cool in 2020.
I don't like touching things. I don't like shaking hands. Like one year I stopped shaking hands at CES and immediately I stopped getting trade show illness.
Yeah, I do the same thing now. Okay, brilliant. I used to be able to press physical buttons with like your keys or something.
Yeah. And now you have to touch screen and tons of them are terrible.
So you have to do the input like a billion times and one of the nice things about physical keys
is that they almost always do actually work. Yeah.
And with touchscreen keys, it's often not a very good indicator of if it actually worked or not.
So you sit there, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch. Oh my god. Okay, that's going to defeat the purpose of using my knuckles in the first place for things.
You could spit on it. You could hawk to it.
Hawk touch it. There's a reference that makes me old, I guess, probably.
Yeah, that's not a fashion now. It's very slow.
Anyways, yeah, physical buttons on random things.
I think high-end touch screens having physical, having touch screen buttons is fine.
So phones is fine. There's probably some cars that are fine, but there's also some cars where it's terrible.
But in general, just like physical buttons would be better.
Yeah. Japan does this super well, by the way.
A lot of their stuff is still physical buttons, and it's very nice.
I still think their train ticket kiosks could be improved.
I agree. Regardless of button type.
But I like the buttons. I'm working my dream job at a big tech data center.
Nice. The work is fulfilling and amazing, but there are moral implications to working for a major
tech company. Oh, so he works for Amazon. Do you have advice for my moral conflict?
There's lots of other data centers you could work at. Also, it could be worse.
You could work for an evil company like Linus Media Group, who didn't tell anybody about any...
Dry your tears with money. That helps. Some amount of it's like, you got to survive yourself.
Slashes! And a lot of people will put their own, as I sort of am right now, will put their own...
Just making sure. Making sure we all are up to speed on that. On you.
So you have to decide where your line is. Your line is?
Oh my goodness.
Get it? Line is? Linus? Anyways. I get it. It's just not funny.
Yeah, fair enough. No, no, I missed it. I missed it. I didn't do it intentionally.
I was busy waiting for chat to actually...
For the people that didn't hear the segment earlier on the Honey stuff,
to be like, OMG, is that what you really said about it?
For those of you who weren't watching earlier, what we said was, hey, we don't really know what you're talking about.
We didn't know almost any of this stuff at the time.
And we dropped the sponsor years ago. If you're mad, that's great.
You should be mad. Be mad at Honey. Be mad at their parent company, PayPal.
Yeah. There seems to be a perception out there that what you invest in
and the job that you have should have zero reflection on you at all.
And I don't completely agree with that. I understand that sometimes you're in a life situation where you just don't have another option.
You don't have the luxury of just taking a stand.
Yeah, so that's one thing. And I am not shooting at that at all.
But I will say for myself, I've had extremely lucrative potential job offers that I have not wanted to take
because of where they were at. And I didn't take them.
So like, it's not impossible. And like, I heard from an awful, because I mean, you were here.
And we didn't make a video about Honey.
So like, I don't know, it's possible. I also know people that had very good solid jobs
and then took a job somewhere that they didn't like the company
and complain about it all the time. And I'm like, this is entirely your fault.
Are you just calling me out? Yeah.
The prime example is Dan. Have you been reading my blog?
But yeah, like, I don't know, you should care at least a little bit.
If it's your only option, it's your only option. I'm not trying to dig you for that. You got to put food on the table.
But if you have a range of options,
life isn't just about making more and more money 100% of the time,
in my opinion. Yes, it is. Which is why I never made a video about Honey.
Because yeah, because you had some form of financial gain there, right?
Yeah, for sure. For sure. It's not that Honey was stealing my money.
Loosing the ad sense on that video was very financially beneficial to you.
You mean the affiliate revenue? Yeah.
No, on the Honey exposure video. Oh yeah, for sure.
Yeah. Not making that money and also not exposing someone who was stealing from me.
Yeah. Yeah, that was definitely my motivation. It really lined your pockets.
You got it. Dude, the number of times that I see people be like,
how is it that Linus spent so much money on this,
but he couldn't afford $500 to test something?
They're so close. They're so close to the answer.
They just need a little nudge. Oh man.
They're almost there. It's almost like they're nothing to do with each other.
All right. Next up. Hello.
I love being an internet personality. I'm amazed if you haven't just lost it.
You don't know that he hasn't.
He hides. These are crazy eyes. He hides it well on camera at least.
Hello from the other. I beat him off camera.
Watch him cower. Where the hell's Dan?
This is me cowering. I don't know why it's pointing over there. Why is it so dark?
You've let me down for the last time, Dan. Pointing the camera in the wrong place.
Don't make me throw things at you again. Which I have actually done.
And Luke has. Yeah. Yeah, Luke actually almost hit him that one time.
Did I? I think so. Yeah. Oh, nice.
You threw an entire CPU cooler at me once. He probably had it coming. Me?
Yeah. I actually did when Luke threw something at it. That was actually extremely warranted.
So yeah. I think I apologized.
Is it victim blaming if the victim blames themself? I think so.
No, that was actually. Is it Stockholm syndrome or something? Not okay.
The other times have been unwarranted. But that one was like.
And to be fair, I threw like a small little coaster.
Yes, that's right.
Hello from the Netherlands to Linus. Do you have any motorcycle specific tech you love?
If I may, what bike do you ride? I have an SV650S.
It's a 2003. But what bike I ride?
Well, none because it's in pieces. It has been for two years.
I'm going to do it this time. I'm going to do it this time. Is it going to be rusty?
No, I'll be fine. Yeah, I took a long time off before and it's like
whatever you just, it's like. Riding a bike.
I don't really have any motorcycle specific tech. I use a pebble for track changing because it has.
Physical buttons. Sure does. And you've got gloves on. Okay.
Makes sense. Time and place for physical buttons. And on the motorbike is definitely one of them.
Yeah. Oh, no.
What? Did we both click archive at exactly the same time
and accidentally archive two cards? Nice.
Nice. So weird. My chat's not updating.
So I missed everything that chat had to say.
Oh, well, I'll live.
Just give me a sec here. Let me see if I can find it. No, I won't.
Anonymous asks Linus, what was your favorite game server or community back
when you were younger? What's your favorite memory from there?
I mean, it's got to be the NCIX gaming server.
Shout out Deathhawk. You know who you are.
For me, I'm going to answer this anyways, even though I wasn't asked. Playing that Left 4 Dead.
Playing that TF2. Let's go. No life in it.
I think it was Halo 2. Oh, yeah.
I used to play a bunch with some dude named U Talk Corshia,
which I've never been able to find again.
Sorry. That's pretty good. But I used to be a part of a community on there.
It was mostly myself and U Talk Corshia, but there was some other people involved as well,
where we would just try to glitch everything. We'd try to glitch out of maps.
We figured out that the rocket-to-sword switch thing,
I think that was literally us. And there's a bunch of other cool things, too.
Whatever the name of the map was, it was really, really small. It was a covenant ship.
There was a floating platform. Linus map. There's a floating platform in the middle.
The platform's a penis. It's really small.
Have you just been spending too much time in this pool? I've been spending too little time sleeping.
I think that's it. And we spent way too much time, because we were kids,
but getting these containers to go all the way up the ramps
to where the floating platform was, and we had to time it perfectly, and we screwed it up a few times.
So you're saying you put a box on the penis?
Kind of. Nice. Yeah, two boxes. Two boxes.
Wow. Yeah. Same time. That was actually the whole...
That was a very important part of the equation. That's the physics of this.
It sounds painful. It's tough. It's difficult. Okay, I'm sorry. What was the thing?
What is it doing? We got the boxes all the way up the ramp, and then we had to get them onto the floating platform at the same time,
and that would slam the floating platform in the ground, which would horrifically glitch the whole map out,
and it was amazing. We were only able to do it once. We're probably the only people that did it, I'm assuming,
because it took forever, and it was really, really stupid. I forgot about that really fun gaming session you and I had,
taking the Warthog cases it wasn't supposed to go. That was a blast. See, that's...
Everything I love about... I almost just said flow plane.
Everything I love about Halo is just breaking Halo in horrific ways.
Nice. Yeah. Well, there's also the music.
That's music. Music is pretty good.
Oh, so good. Care for a diagram? I could do like a horrible paint drawing,
but I really don't think it's worth it. Yeah, you took the default. Yeah.
Did we find it? Yeah.
What? Cool. Well, thanks for tuning in to the WAN Show.
Find what? The message we were looking for.
That's the one. He read it. He beat me to it. Oh, what? That was there on my dashboard.
Yeah, it was there on my too. What?
All right, we'll see you again next week. Same bad time. Same bad channel.
Bye.
So this is what gaslighting is.
Well, then. No, it's not. Damn it. You're wrong.
There's a leak. And if you're wrong, you deserved it.
Gaslighting's not real. Crazy.
It is. You made it up.
Oh, man.